Weddings

Welcome to our regular Friday moral dilemma. This week: How much power do brides have over their bridesmaids? Is it OK to boot someone out of the wedding party because they rudely got preggo?

I can't BELIEVE she's making me wear this. Pic: AP

We all know the Bridezilla stereotype… and that it exists because there really are women who turn into heavy-breathing tantrum-throwing monsters in the lead up to the happiest day of their lives.

Brides obviously deserve some sort of say. The good Christian bride might say ‘no’ to her sister’s Antichrist-themed ra-ra skirt, for example. There may be a colour theme, or the bride could be afraid of the colour purple. These things happen.

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  • Babe in the Woods says:

    03:18pm | 09/01/12

    Our wedding was very nice.  We had 22 of our closest friends, catered by a company a friend owns.  Car by a friend who owns a merc (don’t know how we know him!) and flowers from our local.  We had a fantastic day with all our friends, and it cost… Read more »

  • Sazzajane says:

    01:44pm | 09/01/12

    I was forced to have a spray tan when I was bridesmaid for a friend’s wedding.  Her mother kindly referred to me as a white blob that would ruin the wedding photos…charming huh?  If you ask someone to be a bridesmaid you know what they look like already and should… Read more »

 

Around this time last year my soon-to-be wife and I were finalising the preparations for our wedding. There are many questions that will be endlessly asked of newly-wed (or soon-to-be-wed) couples: How did you meet? How long have you known each other? Do the parents approve? But for me the worst question was “What do you want as a wedding present?” - and for two reasons.

On every shopping list this Christmas

Firstly, my wife and I had managed to inherit or buy most of the crockery, cutlery, cookware and linen that we needed to run our house in the early days of living together and by the time our wedding was drawing close we couldn’t think of anything else that we really needed.

The only suggestion I could make was for a new can-opener (ours had broken a few days after the wedding invites had gone out) and it was quite a challenge to convince people I was being serious.

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  • Classic says:

    12:23pm | 04/01/12

    We bought an avocado saver. Best thing since sliced bread. Read more »

  • Classic says:

    12:23pm | 04/01/12

    We bought an avocado saver. Best thing since sliced bread. Read more »

 

Who in their right mind would want to be a Princess? In the last week, the royal bride lark has well and truly lost its fairytale sparkle.

Do I really have to?

Charlene Wittstock’s real-life Princess story came close to coming off the rails when, in the days leading up to her and Prince Albert of Monaco’s $75 million three-day wedding, she reportedly tried to do a runner.

At the eleventh hour, the bride was caught at the airport in Nice, trying to flee to her native South Africa, on a one-way ticket in order to escape her royal fate.

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  • LittleBirdy says:

    09:01pm | 06/07/11

    LOL!!  Well, Stepahnie sure does anyway. Read more »

  • Elphaba - opinionated: deal with it. says:

    05:25pm | 06/07/11

    @Iamnololita - what, I can’t have an opinion? You don’t have to agree.  But I will have one, whether you agree with it or not.  I will comment, whether you like it or not. @Here to help, AKA Badger - you continue to stalk!  You continue to waste your time… Read more »

 

There are some very odd bedfellows in the anti-gay-marriage camp. Like, for example, conservative Christians and gay libertarians. The former think that gays will wreck marriage, the latter that marriage will wreck gays.

It is soooo time to partay. Pic: AP

The first argument goes like this: marriage was made by God to unite men and women. Gay marriage will debase that institution, stripping it of its sacred meaning.

The same argument, couched in more secular terms, is offered just as often by people who say they are against discrimination, except when it comes to marriage because… and then insert whatever spurious, depressingly legalistic, horribly thin argument you choose…

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  • Not putting my name here on this one occasion to a says:

    06:40pm | 07/07/11

    Nick, I’m adopted. Met my natural parents, and discovered, as many adopted children do, that I didn’t miss out on much. Thank heavens for my adoptive parents. Yes, gay people might have access to the same assistive technology as straight people. You’d have lesbian couples accepting sperm from donors…just like… Read more »

  • GlendaSings says:

    06:12pm | 07/07/11

    @Sheldon…it’s simple. Legalise same sex marriage, and we’ll stop talking about it. It can become business as usual, as unremarkable as heterosexual marriage. Sounds good to me. Read more »

 

Yesterday, a private email from British woman Carolyn Bourne to her prospective daughter-in-law went viral. The father of the bride-to-be has since replied, mouthing off big time at Carolyn Bourne. The aggrieved bride-to-be has not yet made a statement or sent a reply email. But if she did, we imagine it might go a little like this…

My Dear Lady Snootybuttocks III. Oh wait, you’re actually a commoner like me, innit ya stuck up bitch? Let me start again. “Dear Carolyn”. Actually, “Dear Mum” Yes, that will do nicely. Because make no mistake, I am marrying that hot stepson of yours.

So if I hit REPLY ALL  it only goes to one person, right? Right?

Here’s the thing, Mum. You think I’m trashy, like one of those “brash” celebrities whose lives you breathlessly consume through all those trashy mags in the conservatory. That’s right, I’ve seen the pile of OK magazines hidden underneath the Horse & Hounds.

So perhaps you’d be good enough to tell me why celebrities, whose lives are full of glitz and glamour, can get married in castles, but the rest of us can’t dare to dream? It wouldn’t be because you dreamed and failed, would it? Or is it simply because your knickers are tighter than a Scotsman’s fist?

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  • jenny says:

    03:12am | 04/07/11

    ‘You are, after all, a florist or a flower breeder or whatever it is you do’, the woman is only bunches weeds together. Read more »

  • Elphaba says:

    09:05pm | 03/07/11

    @Liza, thanks.  My friend and I have spoken about it and I’ve said to her to please get costs to me before I make a final decision. I think your attitude is right though.  I feel a bit better knowing other people feel the same way.  I thought I was… Read more »

 

Labels are the problem. Male or female, black or white, comedy or drama, PG-13 or R? In which section of the DVD store will this film end up? How do we market it? To whom should the product placement and the trailers before the film be skewed?

Hey, chicks can be rude too.

It is for these reasons that a gem like Bridesmaids receives qualified approval like “the funniest R-rated female driven comedy of all time”. There’s a glaring missed opportunity, given the ethnicity of one of the film’s leads – surely an enterprising reviewer will dub it “the funniest mixed-race buddy film R-rated female-driven romantic comedy of all time”. Perhaps with an exclamation mark or two for good measure.

Bridesmaids stars Kristen Wiig, who co-wrote the film with Annie Mumolo, and a host of other Saturday Night Live alumni. At the time of writing, it has made almost US$125 million in the US alone and is one of the most critically acclaimed films of the year.

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  • joe3 says:

    02:43pm | 20/06/11

    Ka2EYl comment2, Read more »

  • marley says:

    09:53am | 20/06/11

    @Max -  In science, if you can prove an exception to the hypothesis, the hypothesis fails.  I’ve come up with 8.  And we both know I could come up with a lot more. Now, why don’t you come up with 8 actors who’ve become megastars playing the kinds of roles… Read more »

 

Some of you have wondered where Lucy is, and why we’re doing the open thread as a team this week. Does the image below give you any hints?

Like Kate, our Luce has found herself a man in a blue uniform. And that's all we're sayin'.

That’s right. Lucy gets married this weekend. She was away this week and will be away for two weeks more, on her honeymoon in a top secret location.

So feel free to use today’s open thread to share all your best wishes for Luce. She’d hate that we’re doing this by the way, but we can’t resist!

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  • AnthonyG says:

    01:40pm | 28/05/11

    Didn’t you get an invite Ian? Read more »

  • Septimus says:

    11:16am | 28/05/11

    Optimus, At least I know who my mother is. Read more »

 

Well may we say a wedding saved the monarchy, but would another one save the Prime Minister?

Cartoon: Peter Nicholson

The recent post-Budget polls are dismal. A weekend Newspoll found Prime Minister Julia Gillard’s standing is worse than Kevin Rudd’s was before he got axed, and a Galaxy Poll suggests that it doesn’t matter what Labor does, people still hate them.

So is there anything that could turn this inexorable tide around? Australians have shown they have a soft and gooey spot for a ‘fairytale’ wedding, turning off a republic and back on to the monarchy with the marriage of Wills and Kate. And then First Bloke Tim Mathieson has hinted that he’d quite like to pop the question. What do you think? Could a garter belt be a lifesaver for Ms Gillard?

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  • Booker28Terri says:

    09:13am | 14/09/11

    Every body acknowledges that humen’s life is very expensive, nevertheless we require cash for different stuff and not every one earns enough cash. Hence to receive fast loan or just collateral loan would be a proper way out. Read more »

  • LC says:

    10:00pm | 18/05/11

    @ Frank Short and straight to the point. I like it. Labor is going to crash and burn at the next election. Why? To name a few: - Broken promises (hint: carbon tax) - Wasting money on frivolous schemes and crackpot plans (elderly set top boxes) - General incompetence -… Read more »

 

Love makes a marriage, even a Royal one. This is the simple and powerful message of the upcoming wedding of Prince William and Kate Middleton, one that’s relevant to Australia’s same-sex marriage debate.

Cartoon: Peter Nicholson

Once royal weddings were about dynastic alliances. That began to change in the twentieth century, but still there were limits on who a royal married, famously illustrated by the abdication of Edward VIII to marry a divorcee.

As recently as the marriage of William’s father, Charles, to Lady Di, it was inconceivable that an heir to the throne would marry outside the aristocracy or have a relationship with his fiancé prior to the wedding.

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  • Alle23 says:

    05:20am | 02/05/11

    Open your mind and read this article:  http://www.newsweek.com/2011/02/25/donor-conceived-and-out-of-the-closet.html Read more »

  • mel says:

    05:01pm | 01/05/11

    Servaas, I see you keep using this poor ‘benefit to society’ argument, which no-one agrees with or cares about. (And really, isn’t it just a cloak for your christian perspective of ‘my god doesn’t like it so I don’t either”?) But to follow your ‘reasoning’, all sorts of people and… Read more »

 

Many years ago, when I was living in London, the fabulous Nigella Lawson and her then-husband John Diamond held a party to celebrate their 10 years as a couple. It was also a goodbye of sorts, because John had terminal throat cancer, which left him unable to speak and – most cruelly – unable to eat his wife’s delicious food.

Mmm… delicious punctuation. Illustration: John Tiedemann.

Yet even without his voice, John was a gifted communicator and, that night – friends later told me – he used a pen and overhead projector to convey his feelings for his wife. “How proud I am of you and what you have become,” he scribbled, in front of family and friends. “The great thing about us is that we’ve made us who we are.”

For me, a girl in her late 20s, bruised by a failed marriage and calloused by career over-commitment, those words evoked a great longing: One day, I would have an enduring relationship to rejoice in.

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  • Observer says:

    07:50pm | 11/02/11

    “The day belongs to both the families that are being joined together by couple’s union. “ Sounds like words of a control freak.  I suspect that one of the many reasons why couples are choosing the registry wedding option is because of meddling relatives and in-laws who hold your position… Read more »

  • decko says:

    09:38pm | 09/02/11

    For example working with childless women who when you tell them it’s your daughter’s birthday, they still expect you to stay at work until very late, talking about their dogs in the same way normal people talk abou their kids ( i like dogs too but it’s simply not the… Read more »

 

People are doing it under the Golden Arches, underwater, in the nude and in Nazi uniforms.

All I need is the air that you breathe. Pic: AFP.

They get hitched in all manner of ways and the water-cooler conversations this week have been dominated by nuptials of all sorts.

There’s the couple renewing their vows at McDonalds. Would you like a Happily Ever After meal with that?

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  • papachango says:

    12:46pm | 22/11/10

    Not so so much weird as tacky, but I think this one takes the biscuit: http://tackyweddings.com/2008/10/30/outer-limits-tacky-150k-wedding-for-uk-16-year-old-girl-ugliest-dress-ever/ Read more »

  • Tory Shepherd

    Tory Shepherd says:

    10:47pm | 20/11/10

    That frightened me off doing a wedding dance… who could compete? Read more »

 

One of my best friends is getting married. This is a joyous occasion but one that has caused much stress and fear, mostly from me because along with the other bridesmaids, I’ve been given the task of organising the hen’s party.

Sorry, we've sold out of dignity tonight. Picture: Chris Pavlich

We know what we don’t want, and that’s some aging male stripper with an orange tan waving his willy in our faces.

We’ve also ruled out phallic drinking straws, drunken cruise parties and any games where vegetables masquerade as genitals, but we’ve also been warned by other hens not to go overboard on the penis-policing, at the risk of the turning the whole thing into a big nana’s tea party.

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  • Dan says:

    06:13am | 18/10/10

    I’ve been to all sorts of buck’s shows but the best one ever was a cricket day between school friends v’s uni mates. Keep it simple, enjoy time with your friends and spend your money on something fun. Read more »

  • Chris says:

    05:55pm | 17/10/10

    Does it really mater what sort of Hens/Bucks night you have. As long as the Bride/Groom or anyone not single doesn’t end up doing anything with the strippers, I’ve heard stories of whipped cream being sucked or licked off body parts, and no one gets injured or dies what’s the… Read more »

 

I’ve just accepted my first ever invitation to be a bridesmaid for some very good friends.

It's thirsty work being a bride. Picture: AAP.

Being a fairly low-key and relaxed kind of couple I’m not concerned about any freak outs or “Bridezilla” moments. Nor, knowing my friend’s simple and elegant tastes do I expect to find myself locked into a series of Saturday morning shopping trips to look at ghastly creations made from taffeta.

But I am wondering - in light of all the things I know my friend doesn’t want at her wedding – what exactly does a bridesmaid to the off-beat bride do? And what types of behaviours should be avoided at all costs?

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  • Burntbride says:

    11:51am | 28/05/11

    Things a bridesmaid should never EVER do: -Don’t suggest that the bridesmaid dresses could be white… not even if one of the colours is white. That colour is usually taken care of. (Especially if you were given the freedom to choose your own dress… and budget.) -Don’t go behind the… Read more »

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    11:34am | 21/02/10

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I’ve been labouring under the false assumption that it’s the fundamentalists, the right wing conservatives standing in the way of gay marriage. Not so. Or not completely.

Go your own way: these people had the right idea.

I now know that there’s a vast spread of middle-of-the-road Australians scared shitless by anything even slightly unconventional when it comes to weddings. They’re everywhere, they’re clinging to tradition with every fibre of their morally indignant being, and they cross into every population group.

There’s enough of them out there who get their full-sized briefs in a knot over non-church weddings to make it clear they’ll never tolerate same-sex unions. 

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  • Isaac says:

    08:49am | 27/02/10

    @Steely Dan re. Code of Hammurabi. The Scriptures of the Old Testament were reliably preserved in the Jewish Culture and document Jewish culture to a time before 1790BC. I’m certainly no scholar on these matters however, and so I shall refrain from making any further assertions. But the real issue… Read more »

  • Steely Dan says:

    03:54pm | 26/02/10

    @Isaac “True, it predates Christianity, but it doesn’t pre-date the Old Testament which is inseperable from Christianity.” The Code of Hammurabi has been dated to 1790BCE - over a thousand years earlier than the oldest Judeo-Christian manuscript.  Christianity has no special claim to being the inventors of marriage.  Chances are… Read more »

 

The start of every wedding will seem extra tedious now after this couple and their friends raised the bar this high.

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  • Rob says:

    09:20am | 02/08/09

    Lighten up Barry!  Why are weddings such sombre affairs, if your wedding isn’t joyful then why get married? This couple have such a love of life, if it can be applied to their marriage then it will last forever.  As they say, dance like no-one is watching Read more »

  • Barry says:

    11:00pm | 28/07/09

    . If this is their idea of the begining of life together, I give them 3 years tops. T Read more »

 

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