War

In yet another attack by a ‘rogue’ Afghan soldier, four French troops were shot dead last week.

Cartoon: Warren Brown

Proponents of the current post-modern war fighting doctrine continue to believe we can make people love us.  Counterinsurgency has been a convenient doctrine swallowed by Western leaders as a politically correct way to fight a war. But it is built on the well-meaning principle of “hearts and minds” when it is nothing more than an unhealthy blend of social engineering and pork-barrel politics. 

The fact is in Afghanistan they love you until the money stops and even then, as the latest incidents show, nothing will bridge the cultural divide.

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  • Smokie says:

    11:20pm | 26/01/12

    those who think they will aquire the oil, or minerals in Afghanistan are a little late. China has already cut the deals quite so time ago for all of this including the scrap metal. The afghans do not want the help from outsides only their money which they gladly take… Read more »

  • MARIA says:

    05:30pm | 24/01/12

    In Afghanistan trust no one and question everything In Australia trust no one and question everything… “there will be no carbon tax under the government I lead”. In a meantime we are told every day by political parties and the media that we are a democratic society . A democracy… Read more »

 

In the film Balibo, five journalists paint an Australian flag and the word ‘Australia’ on the wall of their ‘safe’ house. They are then coldly executed by the invading Indonesians.


They believed – naively, in retrospect - that their very Australianness and their civilian status as journalists would save them.

Their brutal slaying outrages us, offends our sense of fairness – and shows that the concept of fairness is an odd sort of idea to have in the midst of carnage.

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  • L.Mountbatten says:

    01:07pm | 18/01/12

    “The most pressing problem in my view is not the frequency or number of assualts or instances of harassment, but the determination of the ADF to maintain a position that says that these are acceptable and just part of ADF life. ” Really? who is maintaining this position?? Read more »

  • Mark says:

    09:35am | 18/01/12

    We’ve always been taught that a good soldier questions his orders but no one who hasnt been in the service would know what its like. Nice double negative there Tom, Town planning, psychology and business degrees require a combined TER score of about 50. Tell me how that is the… Read more »

 

Author Craig Shirley announced with some fanfare in The Australian that the United States had “no intelligence of a potential Japanese attack.”

Sailors stand among wrecked airplanes at Ford Island Naval Air Station as they watch the explosion of the USS Shaw in the background during the Japanese surprise attack on Pearl Harbor, Hawaii 07/12/1941. Pic: AP

Tell us something we don’t know.

Writing all the way back in 1962, Roberta Wohlstetter made clear that the United States “failed to anticipate [the] Pearl Harbor [attack] not for want of the relevant materials, but because of a plethora of irrelevant issues.”

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  • Greg says:

    06:43pm | 14/12/11

    St. Michael, the “wall of text” is in reality some basic facts to support my argument. I can’t help it if you are feeling overwhelmed by the amount of evidence that I have provided. I am not avoiding any aspects of the discussion either, even though the topic of discussion… Read more »

  • Greg says:

    05:59pm | 14/12/11

    marley, I never said that the Sudetenland was part of Germany or that it was taken from Germany after WW1. You are just making that up, or imagining it. Go read what I actually wrote. It’s still there. And German speaking people had been living in the region since at… Read more »

 

As we approach the Centenary of World War I, we start to think about the tremendous sacrifice so many of our diggers made. It is unimaginable to think that over 60,000 young men died in Gallipoli and the Western Front.

If we're going to do this, we might as well do it right

When you visit the battlefields of France and Belgium and the cemeteries and memorials you see countless numbers of white crosses honoring the fallen. Many of those crosses are for soldiers who are “Known Only to God”.

At the various memorials such as VC Corner and Menin Gate the names of those who were missing in action are engraved in stone. The Australian Government’s official estimation is there are approximately 18,000 Diggers lying under the fields of France and Belgium.

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  • ajrichar says:

    08:35am | 10/12/11

    The author’s name is Roland Perry, not Fry.  And Monash did not win the war.  He was a good commander, but so were others like Canada’s Currie.  Australians have a view of their role in the Great War that needs some perspective amongst the sheer number of Divisions in the… Read more »

  • Colin Stewart says:

    03:10am | 10/12/11

    Real Dave @11.49 on 8/12 seemst imply that one day we simply decided to invade little old innocent Turkey who was minding its own business and killed 80000 of their troops. The fact is, the Ottoman Empire (the Turks) were a legitimate target once they joined the Triple Alliance, our… Read more »

 

It’s Remembrance Day. And this year, we have more to remember than ever.


Ashley Birt, 22. Bryce Duffy, 26. Luke Gavin, 29. Rowan Robinson, 23. Todd Langley, 35. They’re all diggers killed in Afghanistan, and that’s just since June.

While we’re remembering them though, we need to jog our memories a little further. Because over the course of this Very Long War in Afghanistan, there’s a lot that we’ve forgotten.

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  • Mildret says:

    09:56pm | 07/02/12

    Wonderful post, well setatd.  As a former state trooper, who was working for a federal police agency in DC on 9/11 and saw the Pentagon burning, and waited to hear on our officers who entered the Twin Towers to help save people, and who NOW works for the Marine Corps–I… Read more »

  • Cameron says:

    08:00pm | 15/11/11

    Well said Marley. Well, we certainly cant police the whole world, its way to big. Let the Arab Nations deal with themselves. We should withdraw and fortify our own interests, our soldiers deserve better then be shot in the back by rogue afghan troops, and such…Let them die for Australia,… Read more »

 

The recent string of casualties inflicted on Australian trainers by their Afghan students is part of the ongoing tragedy of war. It is also not making the job of selling the Afghan War to the Australian population any easier.

Looking to the future. Pic: Supplied

A recent Roy Morgan poll says that 72 per cent of Australians want to withdraw the troops. That’s good because we are, of course, going to withdraw and our casualties must be seen in that context. The withdrawal date is already set as 2014 and barring some strategic change, our combat troops will leave.

The Prime Minister has announced that there will be an ongoing training commitment to Afghanistan, but the detail is unclear. Of course, if there were no consequences for the withdrawal of our troops, they would have been withdrawn long ago.

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  • Elizabeth1 says:

    05:59pm | 11/11/11

    acotrel - I like your values. Read more »

  • marley says:

    02:12pm | 11/11/11

    @subotic - sigh.  No, perhaps you don’t discriminate.  If you can’t tell the difference between the Middle East (where there are plenty of Arabs but no Afghans) and Central Asia (where Afghanistan is located) I suspect the fine art of distinguishing between people who have completely different histories, ethnicities and… Read more »

 

Writer, comedian and Can of Worms reporter Dan Ilic visited Aussie diggers in Afghanistan last month to perform a series of comedy shows. Today, he writes about what he saw and experienced, in the first of a two-part report.

Here are some tips for comedians. Never try out new jokes to a hostile crowd. If you do, keep it short.

Whatever you do, don’t go out to an unfamiliar audience and give them 15 minutes of new material you wrote just for them until you’ve actually learnt all the jokes. I did this recently on stage in front of a crowd of about 50.

I could tell the gig was going to be dull. It’s called Funny Shui: the audience all self-consciously sit as far away as possible from the stage. I couldn’t even make eye contact with this group. Showtime.

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  • Paul says:

    03:41pm | 10/11/11

    Actually there is a “KFC” in Kabul, its just not owned by the Colonel, and its in Kabul, not ISAF headquarters, so you military types would never have seen it. Read more »

  • stephen says:

    01:13am | 05/11/11

    He’s funny enough if you are sweating at 3am and the 5am rise means you have to put on 35 kgs of backpack, and then walk and fight. It’s hard enough - agreed - but we should be sending 50,000 there, not 15. Either we fight properly, (I mean, do… Read more »

 

Three more Australians are dead, and seven injured, in Afghanistan. It’s even more tragic because it appears the killer was an Afghan soldier, a colleague. Follow the news at news.com.au. Nathan Mullins spent time with the Australian Special Forces in Oruzgan, and this is his perspective on the many questions that beset Australia about our role in Afghanistan.

Picture: Associated Press

What are ‘we’ doing in Afghanistan? People ask me whether we can win the war. That’s not the important question. The question is whether we should be trying to ‘win’ in the first place. But before that the question is: who’s ‘we’? We the Coalition, we the Australian Army, we Australians, or indeed, we the western world? It’s a long way from Melbourne to Afghanistan, both geographically and figuratively, but when I had the chance to fight in the hills and valleys of Uruzgan with the Australian Special Forces, I did it. I needed to know if ‘we’ should be there.

When I decided to go I thought I represented the Australian Army. While I was there I realized that the people of Afghanistan feel isolated from the rest of the world. They didn’t see me as an Australian soldier, or an Australian really, they saw me as a citizen of a world that was so foreign to them as to barely exist.

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  • Paul says:

    07:09am | 01/11/11

    @ Jarrah: lmfao, darwinism will sort you out, ha ha ha ha ha. Read more »

  • Jarrah says:

    10:16pm | 31/10/11

    Careful wolfie, someone might accuse you of being my alter ego… Read more »

 

It’s a pretty reasonable guess that, over the coming week, we’re going to hear a LOT more about the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

Terror in our time

Ten years on from that awful event, the media will hammer us remorselessly with commemorative newspaper liftouts and TV specials, and we’ll quickly tire of emotionally-loaded words like “courage”, “tragic” and “heroism” being used ad nauseam.

At times, it will seem like a collective remembrance of tragedy almost completely disproportionate in scale to the nearly three thousand lives lost on that day. (Which, to put that number in perspective, is one fifth of the number of people that died in March this year as a result of Japan’s earthquake and tsunami.)

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  • Macon Paine says:

    11:34am | 07/09/11

    @ John “Go take a physics course, looking into structure of the towers and find how strong steel is and watch the towers collapse.” Go take a logic and critical thinking course, then take a structural engineering course or you could just read the NIST report and listen to the… Read more »

  • John says:

    11:37pm | 06/09/11

    WTC 7 official findings state that a single rain drop caused WTC 7 to collapse , University of Faud Mechanics PHD scientist stated it was a rare event. This pretty much debunks crazy insane conspiracy theorists. Read more »

 

It was not until I recently heard an art historian visiting Australia to talk about Guernica – the iconic anti-war painting by Pablo Picasso – that I connected the dots of why the 9/11 attacks had such a penetrating impact on the global community.

Picasso's Guernica remains as potent as any footage of planes hitting the WTC

Art historian Professor Timothy J Clark was explaining in a Sydney Ideas lecture why Picasso’s depiction of the world’s first terrorist air-raid continues to have political currency in the post-9/11 era, despite the existence of more “real” forms of media than existed in 1937.

Clark said that in essence Picasso managed to communicate what it is really like to be bombed. He told me after the speech that “Guernica wouldn’t have its continuing political relevance if it didn’t somehow manage to wrench the material reality of suffering out of that black and white virtual world”.

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  • Mark G says:

    02:19pm | 17/07/11

    You have touched on something that is a sad reflection of modern western society. Peoples views and opinions are frequently swayed more by misdirected media hype, Hollywood movies, conspiracy theories, overdramatised accounts and creative eyewitness selection (picking the witness that is emotional and breaking down rather than the one that… Read more »

  • John says:

    08:32pm | 16/07/11

    Enjoy your fictional reality Buzz! Read more »

 

It’s hard to wipe your bum if you have no hands. It’s hard to win at marbles when you only have one eye. And it’s pretty hard to work as a farmer when you have no legs.

It starts out all sci-fi but ends up like a horror flick

Seems pretty wacky, but this is the reality of living in a country beset with bombs dropped by our coalition partners over thirty years ago.

I’ve just returned from working in Laos with UNICEF and was shocked to learn of the ongoing problems Australia has played a part in creating. I was even more shocked to think that Australia wants to continue to be involved in such a brutal manner of war.

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  • Septimus says:

    06:53am | 06/07/11

    @fml You must have imagined the over run from SE Asia part, because I certainly didn’t say it.  So those are issues with your thought process - not mine. @DS Like I said, I didn’t expect your bleeding heart to get it.  Head over there and start doing something about… Read more »

  • Jane says:

    10:40pm | 05/07/11

    War may be barbaric, however there are still rules and we don’t need to make it any more barbaric than it need be. Read more »

 

Yesterday, News Ltd national defence writer Ian McPhedran argued that it’s our moral duty to stay the course in Afghanistan, both to honour fallen diggers and for the sake of the mission itself. Many ordinary people took exception, arguing the best way to honour the fallen is to withdraw from the whole exercise.


In any war in which Australia is involved, mainstream public figures rarely question our commitment to the conflict. To do so is seen as the equivalent of saying the fallen died for nothing.

Ordinary people know better. In war, as in life, the ground shifts. The perfectly valid reason you got involved several years back may no longer hold up today. Funny thing is, war movies have long echoed this theme. Maybe it’s time our leaders took a trip to the video store…

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  • LBC says:

    03:01pm | 12/09/11

    The current situation is like a bad film script and unfortunately, the world is not safer after the loss of so many lives. To get a clear insight into what is actually happening, have a look at Brown University’s comprehensive research:  http://costsofwar.org/  It makes you wonder when will we stop… Read more »

  • St. Michael says:

    02:22pm | 13/06/11

    “To contrary my friend, your talking to a reservist with friends who have been voluntarily deployed to every theater the Australian military has fought in over the last decade. Do you really believe that soldiers aren’t selfless?” My mistake, when you referred to warriors I didn’t realise you omitted the… Read more »

 

As another Australian family endures the soul-destroying grief of the loss of a young son in Afghanistan - the fourth in a week -  the debate about the nation’s role in the campaign has shifted into fraught territory.

The coffins of Lance Corporal Andrew Jones and Australian Army Pilot Marcus Case

Some surveys show that the majority of Australians want the troops to be brought home immediately. Our political leaders say we must hold our nerve and harden our resolve for more losses in the weeks ahead.

Given that only two of the four latest casualties, Sgt Brett Wood and special-forces combat engineer Rowan Jaie Robinson, were killed in action fighting the Taliban the bipartisan position is the right one for a host of reasons. 

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  • Zabrina says:

    08:15am | 15/06/11

    And I thought I was the sensible one. Thanks for settnig me straight. Read more »

  • Dan says:

    01:59pm | 11/06/11

    Well said,. Read more »

 

Australian Soldiers are the strongest tribe in Uruzgan Province and it is this profile that wins hearts and minds in Afghanistan, not well-meaning gestures of handing out bags of money.

Aussie Soldiers in Afghanistan

It is that strategic change over the last 18 months that is now paying off in Uruzgan. Afghans respond to what some may call traditional characteristics of bravery, courage, honour and revenge. They are also very polite, even though tomorrow they may kill you. If you could bring back Alexander the Great, he would say we are fighting the same people, using the same tactics they used against him 2,000 years ago.

Despite what Australia’s David Kilcullen, the architect of this new pop military version of counterinsurgency (COIN), will have you believe, this is not about a kindler gentler war. There has been a grave misrepresentation of COIN. In fact, unlike author of The Strongest Tribe former Marine Commander Bing West, who has spent endless nights bunkered down under fire with troops, I doubt whether Kilcullen would have been to very far off Route One.

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  • Racheal says:

    03:53pm | 07/02/12

    How can Canada help them with decacromy when we are losing it so fast here at home over the last five to six years under HarperLand?The US contractors who “won” (paid the biggest bribes) the contrats to re-build the schools take their cut and hire another contractor who does the… Read more »

  • Cab says:

    12:38pm | 27/01/12

    I too had the sad experience of working with Jason. you are being to nice in your comments. Beware fo the self professing person who has tried to reinvent himself at the expence of others. I hope he is not working with anyone in a danger zone. Beware of this… Read more »

 

The deaths of another two Australian diggers in Afghanistan will not weaken the Government’s resolve to stay the course, Prime Minister Julia Gillard has vowed.

Photo: Gary Ramadge

But the particular nature of one of those deaths - a violent betrayal which saw 25-year-old Lance Corporal Andrew Jones shot dead by a supposedly friendly Afghan National Army soldier who had been trained by Australia - has sent shockwaves through the defence forces.

Trust between the two militaries has been severely shaken.

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  • acotrel says:

    10:19pm | 02/06/11

    I suggest it’s important for the west to win the propaganda war.  The Taliban rhetoric must be prevented from becoming infectious.  The way we treat islamics here could be important to the final outcome.  We should never provide justification for the ‘crusader’ slur, which seems popular in the middle east.… Read more »

  • darren says:

    02:28pm | 02/06/11

    In 1996 we lost 18 good SAS men in a single helicopter training accident. We have lost many many more soldiers in training accidents and accidents in general over the years. Casualties in any war are terrible, but thats part of the job. This fight will make a difference to… Read more »

 

The death of Osama Bin Laden will make no difference to global terrorism inspired by Islamic fundamentalism, and it will have scant impact on the war in Afghanistan. 

Osama's death will not eradicate his influence or the memory of events like this one.

But the way that the US killed Osama Bin Laden needs recognition; it was the sort of precise, human intelligence-driven operation that must be employed ruthlessly in Afghanistan to capture or kill insurgent leaders as we enter another fighting season.

Al-Qaida has not been about Osama bin Laden for quite some time and the Taliban in Afghanistan have not received support from al-Qaida or Osama Bin Laden since the end of initial operations in 2001.  The global Islamic terrorist movement is now a leaderless jihad and is more likely to come from a young IT whiz-kid in his bedroom in one of our leafy suburbs than from an old man hiding in the mountains of the AfPak border. 

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  • Gaby says:

    01:59pm | 16/09/11

    The secret is out for all the questions about Muslims, Direct from the horse’s mouth Google (Bedroom Terrorists) and you know what I mean Read more »

  • Wolf says:

    10:45am | 08/05/11

    @Walter Kurtz Jr You wrote… “...It is worth mentioning that their drugs get out through nodes under the control of Karzai. And Karzai, according to recent months’ media reports (derived from Wikileaks), is a C.I.A. asset - i.e. on Western payroll.” Does this mean that its anothr Air america? Read more »

 

In the wake of the latest scandal to hit Defence, Defence Minister Stephen Smith has announced six inquiries, and says the Government will fasttrack changes so women can fight in all the most dangerous frontline positions. The Punch spoke to Australian Defence Association executive director Neil James about the move.

No place for women? Pic: AFP

Q. Do you think women should be on the front line?

A. We support the fact that women in the Australian Defence Force serve on the front line and in combat (to the extent they currently can)... we also support the current scientific study into expanding the range of roles for women on the front line. We support evidence-based decisions - not emotive sloganeering.

This topic comes up every six to eight months and the discussion is never intellectually robust. Too many people enter it from an ideological viewpoint or they’re not across the facts. This is clearly a diversion by the minister - to divert attention from the fact none of the inquiries he’s called will investigate his apparent abuse of ministerial authority. He’s announced six reviews but none of them will include an investigation of him.

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  • Jennyx620 says:

    01:04pm | 15/05/11

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  • Dan says:

    12:06am | 19/04/11

    Al says: ” You claim you are educated” I am, compared to you. In fact, my two-year old niece is educated compared to you. “You claim you have balance perspectives.” I do, compared to you. Anyone has balanced perspectives compared to you. “Yet as soon as your belief structure is… Read more »

 

What next in Libya? The initial demonstration of strength we saw yesterday is really just the beginning. (Follow live updates here.)

Don't count your chickens yet, mate. Pic: AFP

As US Defence Secretary Gates has rightly observed “a no-fly zone begins with an attack on Libya to destroy the air defences”. This underscores the inevitability of escalation for which a no-fly zone has set the scene, one way or another.

Even if Gaddafi, out of character, orders his aircraft or ground installations not to engage the foreign forces from here on, or they revolt out of fear or relief, that is not the end of it.

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  • PJ says:

    04:33pm | 23/03/11

    LOL, JAN got ‘pwned!!! Read more »

  • John A Neve says:

    07:57am | 23/03/11

    Jugg, It is a sad day when you have to ask me exactly what I have kept asking you! I’ve asked you at least twice why the UN and that good old US of A hasn’t thrown the despots out of Africa. As to the amount of oil in Africa,… Read more »

 

Like every other family values-oriented Australian I have been deeply impressed this week by Charlie Sheen’s commitment to his children and his efforts to avenge their removal from his custody by removing their mother’s teeth.

Hooray! They canned Two and a Half Men! I never thought it was funny anyway… Pic: AP

You rarely get that sort of passionate parenting these days.

As many people will know, Sheen’s two-year-old twins were placed in the care of his ex-wife Brooke Mueller and taken away from the house he shares with two porn stars.

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Afghanistan, an uncertain world, and regional instability will make 2011 a challenging year for the Australian Defence Force.
Troops on the ground in Afghanistan. Pic: Defence

The campaign in Afghanistan will dominate the military landscape this year as Australia and the other 44 nations involved in the International Assistance Force (ISAF) struggle to develop a workable exit strategy for the eight-year conflict.

Prime Minister Julia Gillard has flagged a further decade-long involvement for Australian troops, but such a commitment will become increasingly difficult to justify as casualties mount during the coming fighting season. Pressure will build for a complete withdrawal once the training role is complete in Oruzgan Province (about 2014) where most of the 1550 Australians are working.

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  • rick says:

    03:54pm | 11/01/11

    “end of days”, “just occupy it forever”  Sam you’re a ........ fill in the blank. I wonder if we were to just look after our own backyards, by this I mean our own backyard - not our neighbors land which we covet, maybe, just maybe, people wouldn’t want to kill… Read more »

  • Sam says:

    01:41pm | 11/01/11

    Sorry guys, but obviously you have no idea how dangerous the situation in Pakistan is. Radical Islam (in Pakistan) + Nuclear Weapons (in Pakistan) = The End Of Days (wherever the wind blows the nuclear fallout) I say forget bringing democracy to the Middle East, just occupy it forever. The… Read more »

 

One can’t help but compare the Israeli-Palestinian peace talks to that of a cat with nine lives.

Benjamin Netanyahu - that guy's still there?... Picture: AFP

They seem to die over and over again with no resolution, but how long until their luck runs out, the blood boils over and the Gaza region breaks out in all out war.

Since the establishment of the state of Israel, crisis points have come and gone and the populations of Jewish and Palestinian peoples have found no peace. Unfortunately this time will be no different.

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  • Bigos says:

    10:37am | 05/01/11

    DS, while I am not the arbiter of morality I am saying that the land, which was called Palestine was divided into 2 states. One was Jewish and one was for the Arabs. As such the “Palestinians” have a state, this state is known as Jordan. Read more »

  • DS says:

    11:34pm | 04/01/11

    Bigos, the Palestinians morally and legally deserve a state of their own regardless of what you think! Read more »

 

It’s quite sad the questions people ask when they hear you’ve just been in Afghanistan performing comedy shows for our troops.

Troops chilling on the ground in Afghanistan. Pic: Supplied

“Were you scared?”

“Did you get shot at?”

“Was it hot?” 

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  • Laurens says:

    11:18pm | 18/01/11

    On behalf of the few intelligent and aware Australians, I wish to apologise for the ignorance and Political Dealings that created the situation our Soldiers have found themselves involved in. It is a totally dishonourable situation. Voter apathy and Political Expediency have allowed this to happen. To add insult to… Read more »

 

Australians are bombarded with advertising and initiatives from governments educating the public about health risks. Smoking kills. Occupational health and safety regulations are law.  “Is gambling a problem for you?”

Photo: AFP.

It makes sense, educating the public on health issues saves money in the long run, is preventative and reduces risks.  And yet one of the most pervasive, damaging and normalised threats to public health remains taboo and largely unaddressed.

Violence against women is a critical human rights and public health issue. One in three women will experience violence in her lifetime. It is normalised, domesticated and prevalent.

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  • Squeeze the Middle says:

    06:34pm | 15/12/10

    AliceC. Eric was agreeing with you that mothers are not inherently evil. Eric’s point is that even if men are 5 times more likely than women to hit children (I’m not saying they are), the fact that women spend 20 times (a guess to illustrate the point) more time with… Read more »

  • AliceC says:

    09:35am | 15/12/10

    @Eric “Robert, the statistics show that mothers are more likely to abuse children than fathers. This is probably not because mothers are inherently evil, rather they simply spend more time with children.” Mothers are more inherintly evil? Based on what? Now who’s pushing a gender agenda? Read more »

 

What time is it in the world? When U2 launched the Australian leg of their 360 tour last week in Melbourne, this seemingly nonsensical question was repeated and alluded to throughout the show. 

Not just miming the words to his, Bono and U2 have always promoted political awareness. Photo: Getty Images.

As the apparent motif of their tour, the question begs consideration. 

Over the years U2 have consistently encouraged their fans to develop a political and social consciousness, in stark contrast to the spiritual vacuity promoted by most mainstream musicians. 

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  • MF says:

    09:52am | 12/12/10

    The same people who whinge about U2 and suggest that their political stance is hyprocritical and inneffective are the same people who shit on John Lennon for starting an ‘advertising campaign for peace”. If a band can captivate 7 million people on a world tour, why not use that position… Read more »

 

In October 2007 two unarmed Iraqi women were shot and killed by private military contractors working for Unity Resources Group (URG), the same firm that now guards the Australian embassy in Baghdad. 

There are good reasons for not wanting private security firms to end up like this. Photo: AP.

Just over a year earlier, contractors from the same company shot and killed a 72 year old Australian academic for failing to stop at a checkpoint.

The Defence Department recently told a Senate committee it was aware of the incidents when it awarded URG the embassy contract, but based on third party reports from “American, Iraqi and British authorities” decided the shootings were justified.

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  • Crystal says:

    10:11am | 13/12/10

    Awesome Paul! join the Libs and run for parliament… I’m sure the Senator will mentor you, he has always been one for promoting sound and solid debate. Your arguement is a reality that cannot be denied, nor circumvented, to imagine one can impose any real or imagined restrictions in the… Read more »

  • Coldsnacks says:

    09:24pm | 28/11/10

    I agree with both Othello Cat and what the Senator is saying. The privatisation of military power is a worrying thing, from a global security standpoint, simply due to the lack of accountability afforded. Whilst a populace can, in a democracy at least, hold their government accountable for the actions… Read more »

 

The Korean War stopped for practical purposes in 1953, but technically, it never ended.

History repeats.Photo: AFP.

This is a matter of theory for most people around the world, but clearly for the North Korean leadership – and many of its brainwashed people – it’s a brutal reality.

This week’s shelling by North Korea of the South Korean island of Yeonpyeong was just the latest illustration of this attitude.

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  • CityWorker says:

    03:22pm | 26/11/10

    Acotrel, if history has taught us anything, it’s that Australia “will never survive as a happy and fertile oasis of liberty surrounded by a cruel desert of dictatorship”, and that “in the final choice, a soldier’s pack is not so heavy a burden as a prisoner’s chains.” F.D.R. and Eisenhower… Read more »

  • PaulB says:

    08:31am | 26/11/10

    Adam.  The South Koreans know what to expect from the North.  If they knowingly provide a deliberate provocation then they share in the responsibility for what happens next.  And as for the torpedoed destroyer?  Do some research, some serious questions remain over the origins of the torpedo, which is why… Read more »

 

But for a sniper’s sticky trigger, I would not be sitting here writing a last minute article about forgetting to remember Remembrance Day.

Crowds celebrate the Armistice in London, 1918. Source: News Limited archives

For those whose history is a little fuzzy, what was first known as Armistice Day commemorates the moment the guns of the Western Front fell silent at the end of the First World War, at 11am on 11 November 1918. 

It became Remembrance Day after the Second World War, and has since become an opportunity for us to pay tribute to all those who have made the ultimate sacrifice in conflicts past and present. At 11am, time stands still.

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  • Gallipoli says:

    10:55pm | 28/12/10

    ANZAC & Gallipoli was like a dream. It was a fantastic place with its history and incredible natural surroundings and also entertainment. I spent 3 unforgettable days in there with my family. I would like to special thanks for the company TTG Travel They provided us a very professional and… Read more »

  • RoseyGirl says:

    09:51pm | 01/12/10

    Interesting historic tale that I didn’t know before, but I think Dan means he wouldn’t be here if his Grandfather had been killed by a sniper on a cigarette rescue, not the war as a whole. Read more »

 

I have listened with great interest to this week’s parliamentary debate about Australia’s involvement in Afghanistan, just as I have listened with great interest to this debate for the past nine years, since October 7th, 2001, when Operation Enduring Freedom was launched by the United States and its allies, including Australia, so that freedom so bravely won by the people of Afghanistan from communist oppression, and so cruelly lost over the following decade to civil war and Taliban misrule, may indeed return, and this time endure.

History will be the judge on Afghanistan. Photo: AFP.

I have listened to this debate and heard many arguments that we should abandon our mission in Afghanistan. 

Some of these arguments are passionate, others cold and rational; some seem sincere, while others callous. And all of them are wrong.

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  • petery says:

    08:13am | 28/12/10

    The debate here reminds me of the Vietnam period, and ‘like that war,in all likelihood,  this war will end,(if it ever does),the same way.It could still end in negotiated truce, which would tend to make all the black and white arguments about winning and losing, or fighting to the death,… Read more »

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    01:49pm | 02/11/10

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With the beginning of a parliamentary debate into the war in Afghanistan this week, the more localised conflict between Julia Gillard and Tony Abbott of trips to the warzone came to a periodic truce.

.Tony Abbott letting of some steam in Afghanistan. Picture: Gary Ramage

But the outbreak of the highly politicised PR war between the leaders over who was supporting the troops in Afghanistan more does bring us to an interesting question: what is the point of politicians hanging in war zones?

Earlier in the week the Greens Senator Bob Brown was asked by the 7:30 Report’s Kerry O’Brien why, as the leader of a party pushing for troop withdrawal from the war, he had not visited Afghanistan.

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    09:35am | 15/06/11

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  • Daemon says:

    04:13pm | 25/10/10

    @Ochrebunyip: My view was that he was lacking in credibility, but that was accompanied by a few other “lackings”: Lack of ability to actually manage the English language. Lack of ability to understand that the voters who put him and Labor into the current situation were actually very smart in… Read more »

 

The Australian public are being fed a one dimensional view of Afghanistan by both sides of politics that is misleading and will only result in further domestic political frustration and a public continuing to question why our troops are not winning the war. 

And who's your commanding officer young man? Picture: AP

Our mission in Afghanistan will not be successful through military engagement alone.  The Prime Minister must publicly acknowledge that our mission in Afghanistan will only succeed through the implementation of a range of mainly direct civilian engagements outside the safety of our Forward Operating Bases and a long way from the good coffee in the safe compounds in Kabul.

War is armed politics and counterinsurgency is an armed variant of domestic politics in which numerous challengers compete for control over the population.

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  • Cicero says:

    05:03pm | 21/09/11

    Worked with this idiot in Adghanistan - perhaps you should ask him why he was ‘let go’ after he started dispalying a Walter Mitty/Rambo type personality that worried all of us he would get himself killed - but worse us with him. Read more »

  • Pochihontas says:

    02:17am | 14/10/10

    From a quick Google its clear this is the same Jason Thomas who made an unsuccessful attempt to stand for Liberal Party preselection in Kooyong against (recently elected MP) Josh Frydenberg. But if we are now to believe his blurb, we might quickly conclude that Barack Obama awoke from his… Read more »

 

Advisory: The following post contains graphic content which some people may find distressing.

Everyone suffers in war. No exceptions. I have been travelling to Afghanistan now for over three years. Covering the conflict from an outsider’s perspective, not getting involved or emotionally attached to the people I photograph. This is hard. Maintaining perspective and impartialility each day is challenging.

Watching soldiers die on the battlefield for a belief in something so far remote from them, is at times very difficult. They fight because they are told to and because if they do not, they will probably be killed by an ill-equipped and under trained Afghan insurgent - or a farmer with a grudge and no money to feed his family.

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  • FFS says:

    12:29pm | 30/10/10

    Marilyn, your views are so ill-informed, misguided and plainly wrong, it beggars belief that you have the motor skills to type. Your disgraceful attack on our soldiers is worthy of the deepest shame, but I doubt whether you have the wit to feel shame over the deep swamp of self-righteousness… Read more »

  • Derp says:

    06:15pm | 06/10/10

    Hug them into sumission… good strategy. Read more »

 

The Greens might not have the balance of power in the Senate until next July but one of Bob Brown’s proposals, a parliamentary debate on our military commitment in Afghanistan, should be indulged well before then.

A tragedy that's becoming increasingly common. Picture: ADF

Nine years into a war that has recently grown much more dangerous for our troops the two major political parties have fallen back on a bit of a “just because” argument for why we should remain in such a Hell hole.

It’s an accepted reality that both sides are in unanimous support for our mission. But as public unease with the growing Australian toll intensifies, our leaders have failed to properly articulate much beyond championing our training role and that “progress is being made.”

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Well we’re leaving Afghanistan, it’s just not entirely clear when.

Who's going to be on the last chopper out? Photo: Getty Images

Today Defence Minister John Faulkner has announced changes to our role in Afghanistan that have been made necessary by the withdrawal of Dutch troops in August.

At the same time the Defence Minister gave a qualified timetable for withdrawal between 2012 and 2014, and then assured us that he wasn’t doing that.

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  • Tommy J says:

    10:43pm | 24/06/10

    Leo, please allow this comment as it is important. For those of you who may not know, here are just a few facts relevant to the current military deployments. In Haig’s presence, Kissinger [ex US Sec of State and still political heavyweight] referred pointedly to military men as “dumb, stupid… Read more »

  • Markus says:

    04:53pm | 24/06/10

    It is something I have always wondered. Republics developed independently in many countries out of necessity. Most are stable and conservative, even between leadership changes, because of the conservative nature of the population’s majority. We have seen the result in Iraq of forcing democracy in a country not necessarily ready… Read more »

 

Update 1:30 PM: Kevin Rudd has told a meeting of Labor MPs this morning that Australia has a “definite and finite” role in Afghanistan, but has not pointed to any specific withdrawal timetable.
The deaths of another three soldiers in a helicopter crash in Afghanistan means five Australian soldiers have been killed in Afghanistan in two weeks. 

More bad news, Chief of Defence Air Chief Marshall Angus Houston and Defence Minister John Faulkner today. Picture: Ray Strange

The latest tragedy means 16 Australian soldiers have now been killed in Afghanistan, since Australian forces joined with American led coalition forces after the September 11 attacks all the way back in 2001.

For good reason politicians and parties in Australia are generally loath to be seen politicising the deaths of young people who serve their country, but the number and regularity of the deaths of our soldiers in Afghanistan leads to inevitable questions for the Government about our future there.

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  • Heather says:

    12:28pm | 08/03/11

    The might of the Russian army could not Tame Afghanistan what makes the US think they can ? If it were an all out ‘war’ maybe but appears just pot shotting at each other and many wonderful young men+womens lives being lost.  Too many bring ‘em home. In vain does… Read more »

  • Noname says:

    12:54pm | 24/06/10

    I strongly agree with Dale Colbeck. Afghanistan wasn`t our problem, therefore we shouldn`t have invaded unless Bin laden attacked Australia. NOW that Afghanistan is unstable because of all the troops went from America/Australia and other countries. They are our responsibility . Before the invasion of Afghanistan Taliban murdered millions of… Read more »

 

Throughout history millions have urged us to ‘make love, not war’ and an important voice has just joined this choir.

Hey man, let's all just drink tea

On Tuesday, Australia’s former Army Chief, Peter Leahy, suggested that the defence budget should be cut and redirected towards its diplomacy and aid programs – and no, he wasn’t wearing flares or dreads.

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An evocative photograph taken last week underscored that old utterance about a picture being worth a thousand words, and prompted at the same time some perennial questions about war in general, and about the particular war being waged at present in Afghanistan.

Tailor made for military PR, perhaps, but also depicting a worthy goal

The AP photograph showed a small boy in the Afghan province of Helmand, standing on top of a small mound, his left hand reached out to clasp the right hand of a uniformed and heavily-equipped US marine.

Just what the two of them might have said to one another was not recorded in the caption, nor in the report below, which detailed a call from the UK Minister for International Defence and Security, Baroness Ann Taylor, for Australia to commit more troops to the NATO effort against the Taliban and al-Qaeda in Afghanistan.

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  • watto says:

    08:12am | 14/10/09

    Eric if you take your own advice and look up google Bush was trying to negotiate an oil pipeline through Afganistan. I suggest you look up “diplomacy” on dictionary.com - the definition does not say commercial interests…. Enjoy your “cheap” gas prices mate! Read more »

  • Eric says:

    03:02am | 14/10/09

    John, bin Laden was the leader of al-Qaeda, the organisation that planned and executed the 9/11 attacks. Afghanistan was hosting al-Qaeda training bases, and Osama bin Laden himself, at the time. I suggest that Google is a useful source of information. Read more »

 

On 28th July 2009, I flew out of Sydney bound for Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan. It was to be the start of a fascinating trip into the Afghan war zone.

US soldiers launching an artillery attack in Kherwar. All photos by Gary Ramage

I embedded with the American 10th Mountain Division in Logar province, in the East part of the country. I was then shipped out to “The Tip of The Spear” as they called it, to the district of Kherwar.

The unit I joined was part of the Coalition’s blocking force against Taliban forces who are trying to use the area as an alternative entry point to the Wardack province and into Kabul.

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  • Budd says:

    10:58am | 17/10/11

    You really found a way to make this whole procses easier. Read more »

  • Brett says:

    04:53pm | 09/07/10

    After the McCrystall debacle can you blame the risk adverse Australian commanders. Read more »

 

I read with glee this week the news that the Rudd government is reviewing the role of women in the Defence Force.

Shouldn't you be baking me a pie?

For some reason this always gets me riled.

Call me a bra-burning feminist with hairy under-arms and a Subaru if you like, but it appears to me that men don’t want women in the military because they are scared of themselves.

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  • Craig says:

    01:11pm | 12/04/11

    I know some female medics who skipped the sugar pill, and only take the hormone pill to stop their periods.  These ladies also had to sign away their lives for deployment, years latter they were both medically discharged for various reasons. Medics are still poges dear, you never served have… Read more »

  • Kyle says:

    01:55pm | 29/10/09

    @ suze,  quite a few comments up you posted this “Consider childbirth or even Rape, women are very resilient and can be put through overwhelming trauma and survive through it.  Suicide rate is higher among males which says something about the psychological strength of women.” Just the slightest bit of… Read more »

 

An old newspaper can work like a telescope into the past, the details sharp but the whole picture a little shaky and blurred, and the newspaper on my wall is like that. It’s the front of the Melbourne Argus for Sunday, September the third, 1939, and it contains only one story, told in a series of blaring headlines.

Window on the past


BRITAIN AT WAR
DECLARED AT 8.20 P.M.
‘OUR CONSCIENCE CLEAR’ – MR CHAMBERLAIN
LONDON, TO-NIGHT
A DECLARATION THAT A STATE OF WAR EXISTED BETWEEN BRITAIN AND GERMANY WAS MADE BY THE PRIME MINISTER, MR CHAMBERLAIN, TO THE NATION FROM NO. 10 DOWNING STREET TO-NIGHT.

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ABC drops the F-bomb

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Until last week, I thought the silliest casualty of modern warfare was the word “bomb”, which in many news reports had become known by the acronym IED, or improvised explosive device.

Gosh! An IED has gone off. It gave me quite a start.

IED might be a handy term for military strategists needing to distinguish between a mortar fired from a well-equipped conventional unit of soldiers and a bucket full of fertiliser and nails left by an anonymous freelancer in a car on a crowded street in Baghdad, but to the media, any explosive device whose detonation imperils those in the immediate vicinity should, provided it’s not Barry Hall after giving away a couple of 50s, be simply referred to as what it is: a bomb.

To do otherwise simply buries the true horror of the incident under a comforting layer of jargon.

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  • Chris Grealy says:

    04:55pm | 25/06/09

    Remember the Blackhawk crash in North Queensland many years ago? Two helicopters whose pilots were flying wearing night vision goggles came too close and their rotors collided. According to a survivor in one of the helos, the pilot’s last words were, as reported by The Australian, “Oh f*&k, oh f*&k,… Read more »

  • Tony says:

    01:50pm | 25/06/09

    if you can’t write the word why write the piece? Read more »

 

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