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Pop quiz – name an AC (Companion of the Order of Australia). Quick! Nice try but probably no cigar.

Dame! Those glasses look good. Picture: Michael Potter

At the risk of putting two and two together and coming up with 147, The Punch detects (speculates wildly) the time might be ripe for a swing back to the days of Sirs and Dames.

Perhaps it’s John Howard’s induction into the Order of Merit or the fact the Queen finished 2011 with a grin as wide as the Empire of old.

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  • rightway rogan says:

    01:18am | 10/01/12

    Long live aussie culture without stuffed shirt awards, usually for the very rich or for the most puerile of pollies favoured by a very rich old lady… leave us alone its a long time since the first fleet missus. Read more »

  • frankr says:

    08:52pm | 05/01/12

    littler bob would lap it up, and then wave royally to the masses from his valcluse mansion. the next day he would reaffirm his allegiance to the actu and the battlers. the battlers would then shout and cheer and agree that this was their true champion Read more »

 

Before our necks had even cooled, the latest foreign dignitaries to hit Australia have got us all hot under the collar again.

Freddo and M-Dog from up the road on their way to a barbie

Our Mary and her husband Prince Fred conquered Canberra yesterday, just as the Ba-rockstar President of the United States did last week and the Her Maj less than a month before.

Australians swoon when foreign royalty or might-as-well-be-royalty hit our shores. And over the past couple of months we’ve been swooning like 12-year-olds at a Justin Bieber concert.

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  • StevenJ says:

    11:57am | 30/11/11

    totally agree, every people in the world are equal (we always mention that, even in the law right?) why bother treating or thinking the so call “royalty” special? just a person who need eat, speak, fart, sleep and die one day. Just the title is different, will they be clever… Read more »

  • youdy beaudy says:

    07:57pm | 23/11/11

    @Stephen and Tiger of Darwin. Hey you two, you need to get over yourselves. The Princess is an Australian not a Foreigner. She has to come home sometimes to see her family who live in Tasmania. This would probably be the primary intention for her return here. The Prince is… Read more »

 

Alexander Downer has a disturbing lack of faith in Australia and Australians. How else to explain his column in The Advertiser where he appeared to suggest without the good graces of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II Australia would slip into some sort of blood-soaked revolution.

An artist's impression of the streets of Sydney if there was no monarch. Pic: AP


Mr Downer invoked the situation in Libya, mentioned the horrors of the Russian Revolution and even the French Revolution then pondered why our nation is “quiet, placid, peaceful Australia”.

His conclusion? The Queen.

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  • glenm says:

    12:26pm | 28/10/11

    @ acotrel, Maybe next time you should read the Article by Downer and not just the one sided analysis on the punch. Your comment is ignorant in that you call Downer absurd and then go on to espouse the same views. Get over the constant Liberal = BAD , Labor… Read more »

  • David T says:

    05:24pm | 27/10/11

    David Lister - just caught up with this…nothing wrong with those 145 words mate (I will assume you are right about the number - cannot be bothered to count) - what was said there actually makes perfect sense. Other people were commenting on the issue Chris talks about so the… Read more »

 

We now know courtesy of the Queen’s meeting with horseracing king Bart Cummings that Her Majesty is not much of a punter. Were she so inclined, the Queen could do worse than wagering a lazy fiver on the chances of the British Royal Family seeing off any renewed push by Australian Republicans for constitutional change.

Five bucks says you'll last another century. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen, Getty Images

I write this as a republican of the most common kind; the do-nothing kind, the kind who is slightly irritated that we had our chance at constitutional change and blew it, but doesn’t care enough to do anything about revisiting the issue.

The two things which jarred with me most about the republican push in Australia were the ineffective tactics used to market constitutional change, with the yes vote spearheaded by two of our worst prime ministers, the economically incompetent Gough Whitlam and the do-nothing Malcolm Fraser, and the overblown claims as to the impact any change would have on our national psyche, as if we are somehow a weak and insipid nation for being a constitutional monarchy.

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  • Albert Hopkins Shirley says:

    04:18pm | 29/10/11

    WHAT most people do not know is that the next King COULD WELL be a Australian. THREE family’s have that right of claim. ONE from Poland and TWO from England. NOW Australians and Australians BORN. It is not set in gold that William or Harry will be the next King.… Read more »

  • Gordon says:

    06:19pm | 27/10/11

    Not a bad idea, but the Mexicans tried this once. Google Maximillian of Mexico sometime….it didn’t end well. Read more »

 

Her Majesty will be warmly and enthusiastically welcomed today because it is always a grand occasion when Australia’s head of state is actually on Australian soil.

Oh look, Philip, one is standing by a Billabong. Photo: Getty Images

Rare, but grand nevertheless. Mind you, she is only here because of next week’s Commonwealth summit in Perth.

We outsoure the pinnacle position in our democratic structure but the woman herself is splendidly separate from that awkward constitutional arrangement. She is special.

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  • Glen says:

    09:53am | 22/10/11

    It should be noted that most people here in Britain, just like our friends in Australia, jusr want to live a life as fruitful as possible, a happy and healthy life…with not too much consideration fote Queen and royalty. I would hate to think who would take over the head… Read more »

  • Horns Up says:

    04:17pm | 21/10/11

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of_Australia “In Australia’s constitutional system, one of the main duties of the Governor-General is to appoint a prime minister, who thereafter heads the Cabinet and advises the governor-general on how to execute his or her executive powers over all aspects of government operations and foreign affairs. This means that the… Read more »

 

What a month it’s been for our Royal Family. Yesterday we pretended to celebrate the Queen’s Birthday, even though it’s not actually her birthday at all. Despite having a perfectly functional and distinctly Australian honours system on January 26, in keeping with tradition we again used the Queen’s pretend birthday to recognise those Australians who have given of themselves to the community.

The birthday couple. Photo: Getty Images

While their efforts should be recognised, it seems quaint that this recognition is still linked to old concepts of Empire which our new system of publicly-elected honours recipients sought to phase out some 34 years ago.

On Friday, the Duke of Edinburgh turned 90, granting a rare interview to the BBC to observe the occasion. Prince Philip said that as he entered his 10th decade on earth he now intended to shift things down a gear. “I reckon I’ve done my bit,” he said, without elaborating as to what his “bit” actually was, unless you count making off-colour remarks to dusky chaps in the former colonies as a form of employment.

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  • Cate says:

    05:42pm | 19/06/11

    No they are not.  I you don’t like them that’s fine but please don’t be so generally insulting. Read more »

  • Cate says:

    05:39pm | 19/06/11

    Why are people so against Royals.  They represent stability and history.  They have made gaffs, however nobody can say they don’t pull the interest and the tourists.  I love them, as they are more interesting than reading about our pollies and any hollywood barbie dolls.  They have history and tradition. … Read more »

 

This Easter the world seems full of believers. Religious and Royal.

Delightful and eminently tasteful cake figurines. Pic: Getty Images

Tomorrow, billions will celebrate the resurrection of their King, Jesus Christ. But this year, there’s another King-to-be who’s stealing the limelight.

Unless you’ve been hiding in a cave over the past few days (no offence, Jesus. Thank God for Mary Magdalene), you’d be well aware the wedding of the century is six sleeps away.

And with this wedding many hope there’ll be a resurrection of a different kind. The resurrection of the monarchy. There will be no heavy cross to carry. No rags. No bare feet. No beard. Quite the opposite. There will be carriages, horses with plaits, the Beckhams, trumpets and the world’s most celebrated modern couple – Prince William and Kate Middleton.

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  • DS says:

    07:31pm | 25/04/11

    Audra, I completely agree!!!!!!!! Read more »

  • DS says:

    07:29pm | 25/04/11

    Do you really think it is that expensive to attend it? Wow, talk about pettiness. Read more »

 

I emigrated here in 1987. As many as one million Irish had made the same trip before me and quite a few have since. Among them were convicts and radicals, priests and judges, nurses and nuns, saints and scholars.

Today it is easy being green. Pic: Bill Hearne

I became a citizen in June, 1994, alongside 90 other Irish expats at the Hyde Park Barracks in Sydney – a building that how houses a beautiful monument to the Great Irish Famine. It was an emotional day. The significance of embracing a new citizenship was not lost on any of us. Irish and Australian songs were played and sung.

The Department of Immigration wondered why so many Irish had suddenly decided that they would become Australian citizens. It was not an impulse move. The Irish had waited patiently for Australia to change. Weeks earlier, the Labor government had gotten rid of a certain oath of allegiance to Queen Elizabeth, the English monarch. Now, almost 20 years later, we are waiting for Australia to change again.

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  • Paul H. W. says:

    11:19am | 25/03/11

    Erick, one might form the view that the Australian monarchy is based on who succeeded in an ancient foreign ethnic dispute. Read more »

  • Ken says:

    03:47am | 23/03/11

    Australia should become a republic for reasons entirely to do with Australia, and nothing to do with historical grievances about Ireland. Or any other country. India became a republic 61 years ago, but Australians of Indian origin don’t bring that into the argument about Australia becoming one. For the record,… Read more »

 

On April 29 this year, Prince William will marry Kate Middleton. In October, the Queen will visit Perth for the Commonwealth Heads of Government meeting.

Sorry, Lizzy - it's not you, it's us. Pic: Getty Images

As the person responsible for media at the Australian Republican Movement (ARM), I predict that these will be my two busiest times of the year. Whenever anyone mentions royalty in an Australian context, the media then thinks “republic” and more often than not gives me a call.

This is as it should be, since the media knows that the majority of Australians want Australia to be a republic now or at the end of the Queen’s reign - at least 60 per cent, according to most polls. On the other hand, it means that the ARM sometimes spends more time talking about royal personalities and personages rather than the things that really matter to us - why an Australian Republic is so important to Australia. The fact is, we have nothing against the personalities - it is the institution that is the problem.

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  • BARKERSheila21 says:

    12:31pm | 09/08/11

    One knows that life is very expensive, but we require cash for various issues and not every man earns big sums money. Therefore to receive good personal loans or just term loan should be a right way out. Read more »

  • Hans Khun says:

    12:55am | 02/05/11

    The Queen looks like a ulgy and vicious person than Gaddafi. Bare this in mind, the House of Windsor was formerly known as Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. The Queen and her children is German not British and this royal wedding is a marriage of the royal and the Rothschild. It its… Read more »

 

Anyone seeking linguistic confirmation of the weirdness that comes from associating with royalty should look no further than our very own dinki-di princess Mary Norgen-Vaaz, or whatever her surname became after she got hitched to that rich norseman.

Commemmorative crap in honour of this momemntous occasion. Photo: Getty Images

Almost overnight, Mary went from being just another foxy bogan chick dancing around her handbag at Sydney’s Slip Inn, punching in the Bacardi Breezers and wooo-hoooing when Blur’s Song #2 came on, to sounding like some la-di-dah Queen Elizabeth impersonator. Not only did her perfectly normal Australian intonations make way for the plummy accent which the BBC defines as “received English”, she even adopted the tortured sentence structures of QEII. On the occasion that one becomes a member of the Danish Royal Family one is struck not only by one’s sense of duty but also one’s place in a long and proud tradition, one is.

Princess Mary is of course a perfectly nice person and her relationship with Prince Frederik could be described unimaginatively as a fairy tale. The same can be said of Prince William and Kate Middleton who are now doing their bit for magazine circulation and the sale of Franklin Mint commemorative plates by tying the knot.

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  • Jason Kelly says:

    05:35pm | 22/11/10

    Apply now to join the the David Penberthy Anti-monarchist League. No education required; chip-on-the-shoulder essential; cultural inferiority complex an advantage. Read more »

  • PaulE says:

    01:20pm | 22/11/10

    Brad, I too had the same experience as Dash and Scarneck in London. It’s not about individuals. The attitude and ignorance Dash refers too towards Australia, is right through the English print media and TV. And it does get very tiresome very quickly. Read more »

 

It is always a bit shocking when nominal republicans, usually those in public life, suggest we should delay making Australia a truly independent nation. We understand why they do it – most politicians would probably much rather leave the republic issue in the too-hard basket – but still we find it quite perplexing.

Republic or bust. Pic: AP / File

An Australian republic, after all, is our Australian issue. It is about us as a nation, as a people. As such, we can and should grasp it whenever we summon the national will to do so. Can you seriously imagine a citizen of the USA agreeing to a foreign national serving as the Head of State of the USA? Or of a German agreeing to a French national being at the apex of their constitutional arrangements?

Either possibility is, of course, unimaginable. Unfortunately, this is precisely the situation we have here in Australia today. We calmly accept that the eldest son of an English / German aristocratic family, who must be a member of the Church of England, sits by birthright – without regard to accomplishment – at the top of our constitutional tree. It almost seems as if we agree with Prince Andrew who recently claimed that it was in the Windsor genes to lead. Do we really think that in egalitarian Australia? Of course not.

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  • TruthHurts says:

    10:55am | 27/12/10

    Furthermore, Australia is a truly independent country, simply because it is under the authority of no other country. Our Head of State, who is Australian (and Scottish, and Welsh, and Canadian, and English) simply lives overseas. In line with this, although we share the same queen with the Scotts and… Read more »

  • Edward Carson says:

    07:54am | 11/12/10

    JP, What do you mean by “HM intervened”? Are you saying the Queen declared the law, after it had been enacted, to be invalid? I didn’t know she had such power. Can you cite such constitutional law as well that instance of her applying it in that Poll Tax case? Read more »

 

Australia has its own identity, there is no question of that. What it doesn’t have, while we have this umbilical cord link to a foreign power, is its own unambiguous Australian identity.

Long to reign over us…

Try to explain Australia’s current arrangements to an Indian or a Greek person and you can see them struggling to keep a straight face.

One of Australia’s most distinguished diplomats, the former Indonesian Ambassador Richard Woolcott,  once wrote that when Australian diplomats are received at official functions overseas, the anthem that is played is ‘God Save the Queen’ and the Queen is toasted at the end as head of state.

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  • Ronk says:

    11:51am | 03/09/10

    And your claim that the former Edward VIII “advocated the carpet bombing of Britain to crush the British into submission when he would return to the throne with Queen Wallis at his side” is total and absoulte nonsense without any foundation whatsoever. And even if it were true, it would… Read more »

  • Ronk says:

    10:31am | 03/09/10

    Try not to confuse “German” with “Nazi”. Doing that makes you just as racist as the Nazis.  No German was ever charged with war crimes simply for joining the German armed forces or because some of the bombs he dropped landed on civilian residential buildings. And it’s no secret that… Read more »

 

Tony Abbott is an unusual politician. Let me give an example. Some years ago I was invited to join a delegation to cabinet ministers about the unfair impact on judicial pensions of a particular Howard government proposal.

Committed, principled, loyal…Photo: Ray Strange

Tony Abbott saw us alone, without the usual cast of advisers who take notes to use against media exposure and whose presence is essentially to ensure that nothing a minister says is of any consequence. Instead he spoke openly and honestly.

About the same time a friend told me he had seen Tony on a 389 bus in Sydney’s eastern suburbs. He wondered why he wasn’t using a ministerial car.

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  • Jim says:

    10:27am | 06/09/10

    KH - I’m not so sure about any Liberal leader in your lifetime lacking vision…unless of course you’re 3. There’s no doubt that every Labor leader in MY lifetime has had vision, no question about that…unfortunately they get lost in grandiose visions and inevitably screw up the economy. So in… Read more »

  • Jim says:

    10:13am | 06/09/10

    How do concerns about border security, and a wish to stop the illegal trade of humans by people smugglers, suggest racism? Put the bong down meinsydney, and grow a brain. Secondly, Abbott is not against legally recognising same sex couples the same way married couples are recognised. He does have… Read more »

 

One of the great buzzwords of modern corporate wankery is “monetise”, an unattractive, cooked-up verb meaning to make money out of something. While I’m reluctant to contribute to its spread, it’s about time someone came out and congratulated the Duchess of York for finding a way to monetise the Royal Family.

Show me the money. Photo: AP

Her bold move to sell access to her former husband Prince Andrew for £500,000 has been condemned by many as a debasement of everything the Royal Family stands for.

It is obviously just that, as for centuries the Royal Family has stood firmly for the view that it is the God-given birthright of its eccentric members to live high on the hog at terrific public expense.

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  • Timmo says:

    07:57am | 27/05/10

    She is very popular in America, they have obviously accepted her. She had to go and find her own place with it all. I think Americans very much like the Royals of all types, boils and all. They should have looked after her a little bit better than what they… Read more »

  • Feral Wombat says:

    05:44am | 27/05/10

    You might be thinking of the fee that they used to charge to get into Heaven. I saw JP2 and it didn’t cost me a single lira. Although I did get the full frisk + metal detector search. I suspect that plenty of people request one-on-one meetings with the Pope… Read more »

 

Bob Hawke has nit the nail on the head – he’s called for a referendum on the issue of a republic and suggests the voters should be asked one simple question: do they want a change to the constitution after the Queen dies?

Republic: Waiting for Queen's death is the soft option.

Hawkie is right – dead right, but why wait until the 84 year old Queen of England goes to that other throne on the sky. Her mother’s family is known for its longevity – she could last another ten to fifteen years; which would put Charles (that’s if he outlives his mum) well into his 70’s and more removed in relevance to Australia than ever, and young William would be coming up to forty and we can only hope by then he’s come to realize that he didn’t want the job anyway.

It was interesting that the subject raised by Hawke came up in the week of the foreign monarch’s 84th birthday which went totally unnoticed except for – wait for it - David Flint, the blue rinse set from Sydney’s North Shore and members of the Flat Earth Society.

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  • LynP says:

    09:03pm | 28/04/10

    I may have repeated myself once on this page about the timing of the last referendum but I won’t labour over the other points I have made again, except to say, why do you want to shut down debate. If 59% of people want a republic, it is obviously not… Read more »

  • LynP says:

    08:53pm | 28/04/10

    Oh ok, I thought you meant 60% for the Monarchy. Sorry! Read more »

 

Ray Martin has suffered an uncharacteristic lack of judgment - and possibly also taste - in using our most important national day to reignite debate over the Australian flag.

Not today, Ray: Martin's ANZAC assault on the flag has angered veterans.

In doing so he has damaged the republican cause, by exposing himself and the broader republican movement to accusations of opportunitism and grand-standing.

Don’t get me wrong - I don’t love our flag, for the simple reason that it’s got another country’s flag plastered all over it. As a modern and independent and multicultural nation it is a total anachronism that one-quarter of our national ensign is occupied by the Union Jack, regardless of the (generally positive) role of Britain in settling and colonising our nation.

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  • Sean says:

    09:11am | 07/04/11

    Great point you make in the article. Will be following up more with this. http://www.left-handed-scholarships.net/ Read more »

  • griffin says:

    08:11am | 15/03/11

    It’s perfect time to make some plans for the future and it’s time to be happy. I’ve read this post and if I could I want to suggest you few interesting things or tips. Maybe you can write next articles referring to this article. I wish to read more things… Read more »

 

The octogenarian husband of the Australian head of state has done it again – he asked a young female sea cadet if she worked in a strip club! 

What does this woman do again? Picture: AFP

Known for his habit of putting both his feet in his mouth, the 88 year old Danish/Greek Prince Philip is saved this latest   gaffe for a young woman who devotes her spare time to naval training.

It would be bad enough if one of his sons made such a remark to a young woman but when a man of Philip’s age gets so out of hand it’s a sign he’s either in his dotage or he’s becoming a bit too dangerous to be let loose in public.

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  • Luck says:

    10:20am | 17/10/11

    Felt so hopeless looking for anrwses to my questions…until now. Read more »

  • Tess Lawrence says:

    09:34pm | 16/03/10

    C’mon fellow Bazzantiums, why don’t we form a Barry Everingham support group for the express purpose of ensuring Barry is our next Governor General - what do you think ?  Too outre ?  His beautiful and elegant wife Avril will ensure he observes the protocols required. The current GG is… Read more »

 

In an extraordinary attack on the memory of the late Governor-General Sir John Kerr, former Prime Minister Malcolm Fraser claims the Governor-General telephoned him on the morning of 11 November 1975 before the then Prime Minister EG Whitlam saw the Governor-General to seek an early half Senate election.

Fraser's waited 34 years to make his claim about Sir John Kerr

The states were unlikely to offer their necessary co-operation in holding an early half Senate election and in any event the new senators would not take office for eight months. The Governor–General could not see this as a solution to the Senate’s withholding of of supply to the government.

Accordingly, he dismissed Mr. Whitlam on the ancient principle that no government may rule without supply being granted by Parliament. Shortly afterwards, the Governor-General commissioned the Leader of the Opposition Malcolm Fraser as caretaker Prime Minister pending an election on 10 December.

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  • Mark says:

    10:01pm | 24/02/10

    As a Liberal voter, I was disgusted with Malcolm wasting control of both houses of Parliament that I joined the Liberal party to make sure that they would never again have such a leader, and they didn’t until Malcolm Turnbull came along. They are both very similar ... enormous egos…… Read more »

  • Reform Now says:

    05:23pm | 24/02/10

    There is something wrong with the constitution, namely the lack of entrenched rights. We do not even have free speech, it is only implied. As for the flag, the millions of Australians who do not have British ancestory cannot relate to the butchers apron in the corner and the embarrassing… Read more »

 

If things are looking good for 2010, just think about where we will be by 2020 in Kevin Rudd’s Australia.

Gosh, doesn't he look young? He even has hair!

In 2020, I will be 31 and the Prime Minister will be exactly double that.

Rudd will be at his peak having surpassed John Howard as the second longest serving PM only a few months beforehand. A good consolation prize, after his failed bid for the UN Secretary Generalship in 2016.

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  • Pinta-Pinta says:

    10:50pm | 03/05/11

    I think thats a pretty unfair statement. Clearly all that he has done with is young life, points to the fact that he has very strong values. Maybe they just done’t fit into a neatly identifiable box. Why try to devalidate someone for having passion and drive, simply because you… Read more »

  • Sebastian says:

    05:22am | 02/02/10

    With less wit than a Liberal media release. Read more »

 

Amid the continuing debate about our national identity and our constitutional arrangements, readers might be interested in this piece written this weekend for English newspaper The Mail on Sunday about our response to Prince William’s visit. It’s obviously written for an English audience, and it ended up being an embarrassingly positive piece where my republicanism almost abandoned me.

Bill Leak's take on our republican ambivalence in The Weekend Australian.

The last thing we need over here in Sydney is another cashed-up foreign interloper buying into the hyper-inflated property market to further jack up prices in the Harbour City.

But Prince Williams’ joking suggestion that he had so fallen in love with Sydney that he intends to buy a house here was not so much condemned as applauded.

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  • Anjuli says:

    11:17am | 03/02/10

    Is it because he is royal or has become a celebrity like his mother before him , I am English who has been here for 37 years but even I think it is time that became a republic . The USA got rid of royalty and it hasn’t done them… Read more »

  • Lyn says:

    07:06pm | 27/01/10

    Danj-I agree with your comments. Williams visit was good because it brought the issue to the fore. There was plenty of debate and an increase in republican membership. Now if we could just get some politicians to grow a spine and start the debate in earnest with some public education… Read more »

 

Don’t think for a moment that last week’s visit by Prince William was anything other than a stunt by the House of Windsor or, at the least, those whose survival depend on its.

King of the kids, unloading at Holsworthy.

Prince William was said to have been “mobbed” as he moved through Victorian country towns. The Beatles were mobbed. The future king was watched. “King of the kids” was the headline. You’ll get that during school holidays, and how fortunate was he to chance upon those?

We aren’t the only nation still constitutionally tied to the old colonial master – there a more than a dozen - but we are the jewel in the crown.

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  • The Sman says:

    04:40am | 28/01/10

    I see Mr Howe was “born in Hampshire but is now proudly an Australian” and it all becomes clear. These types are ten a penny, believing their “success” is purely down to “fair go” Australia and that back in the old country they would surely have got nowhere, sent back… Read more »

  • Christopher of Melbourne says:

    02:12am | 28/01/10

    Well said, Alan.These free-loaders should have been given the boot years ago. I can’t believe there are so many monarchists and so-called republicans too indolent to demand this family vacate the scene. Read more »

 

After a week of fiery debate that covered everything from our right to a national holiday and whether we should be a republic to what we’d like on our flag we can be sure of one thing: we can’t agree on any of it.

Scroll down to see a collection of twenty or so comments from Punch readers on all of these contentious topics. But whatever you end up doing today we hope you’ll stay safe and have fun.

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  • Faten says:

    09:31pm | 26/01/10

    Aussie Gal 83, as I recall all we did in History at school was study mainly Australian history (except Ancient history), just because some students are stupid enough not to pay attention does not make it the systems fault. Aussie, I like what you said, I was born in Australia… Read more »

 

The last time I thought about an Australian republic was in 1999. I was 12 years old and too busy thinking about how hot Prince William was to really care about the republican movement.

Bold and the Beautiful? Prince William with Kate Middleton / File

Eleven years later, Prince William arrives in Australia. The only time I come into contact with the Royal Family is seeing Willy’s grandma on the $5 note and her head on all the Aussie coins. While I’m interested in the republic v monarchy debate, the dramas of the Royal Family appeals to me even more.

There was a time where the Royal Family were treated with near-universal respect. Now? The walls behind Buckingham Palace are producing scandals the writers of The Bold and the Beautiful wish they could come up with. The Queen must feel a twinge of nostalgia on the days where the family’s dirty laundry wasn’t aired to the press.

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  • aussiebrisguy says:

    06:52pm | 28/01/10

    Justin you simply don’t get it. No one Australian could possible represent this country as they would be just another slimy politician with a great many Australians against them. Is that truly what this country needs? Grow up and respect your country and its system of government that works very… Read more »

  • Justin says:

    11:01am | 24/01/10

    Republicans will never win this debate as long as we make it about the Monarchy. Period. Australia is tangibly no worse off under a monarchy than we would be if we were to become a Republic and yes, there are problably more risks associated with becoming a republic than with… Read more »

 

Well our local monarchists have worked themselves into a royal frenzy and the hyperbole is coming thick and fast - so let me try to help them get a few things into perspective.

I'm on a boat yeah

William and his brother Harry - thanks to their gorgeous mother Diana - are the only really normal members of the world’s most dysfunctional family.

Granny Queen is locked into yesterday with her appallingly rude and insensitive husband.

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The arrival of young Willie Windsor in the Antipodes has brought renewed attention to the white elephant sitting in Australia’s lounge-room.

This is a story about a prince…

The republic has stirred, goaded by the media frenzy surrounding the Prince and the cheap point-scoring by monarchists heralding Willie as the man to save them from well-deserved irreverence.

It is nice to see him out there in Redfern, a slight change of pace from the official welcoming at Admiralty House. It is nice to see him mixing with the kids at Kirribili for lunch (Michael Clarke’s timely ton just snuck him onto the list).

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  • Barry says:

    10:40pm | 22/01/10

    There is a very good reason for keeping the current system but unfortunetly even most Monarchists don’t seem to identify it. The role of the Royals/GG’s is ultimaly to intervene when the Australian People get it wrong. Simply put, the Monarchy gives Australia a final fail-safe that can stop us… Read more »

  • Krull says:

    10:24pm | 22/01/10

    What on Earth are you talking about, when did he say that monarchists are unpatriotic?  The point is that its simply undemocratic and unrepresentative that are our head of state lives on the other side of the planet is also a monarch that simply inherited the role. The simple fact… Read more »

 

It’s time we shooed off our Royal parasites. I don’t want the Queen as Australia’s head of state, and nor do I want her untrustworthy, dysfunctional, self-serving family of heartless opportunists to have any say in our future.

They're creepy and they're kooky, mysterious and spooky. Photo: AP

For too long this racist, sexist and unworthy institution populated by dangerously inbred Europeans has arrogantly wielded power it does not deserve – just last week it was revealed the next King of Australia campaigned against the Coalition of the Willing and sarcastically abused “his” Prime Minister, Tony Blair.

Prince Charles son, His Royal Highness Prince William Arthur Philip Louis of Wales, Royal Knight Companion of the Most Noble Order of the Garter may be a more pleasant chap – and he may not - and, at least by royal standards, he is quite well educated.

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  • Russ says:

    11:08pm | 29/04/11

    I can’t believe all you people give a damned.  All of Britain is dysfunctional, and they “cawnt” speak English properly either. Read more »

  • Robbie says:

    10:00pm | 04/02/10

    Jenny,firstly I find it hard to believe anyone with such a vitriolic nature could have a sense of humour.That aside a little history lesson.Whilst the colonies were looking after themselves the English were quite busy as well.A little tiff with the German army was afoot 12,000 miles away.I’m sure also… Read more »

 

AS soon as I can, probably within a couple of years, I hope to take the oath of Australian citizenship. It’s something I take seriously, not least because of the relief of finally being able to cast a vote on who gets to spend my taxes. But it will also place me in the naggingly uncomfortable position of being a citizen of a country whose head of state comes from a family with a long-standing tradition of doing cruel and unusual things to Irish people.

Steer this course but watch out for a referendum

I use the word “naggingly” quite deliberately because despite my qualms about the British royals’ connections with lopping off Irish people’s heads and trying to wring the life out of Ireland’s language and sporting traditions, for some time I have been developing an increasing admiration for the Windsors. On balance I’m looking forward to having some ownership over the monarchy.

Prince William’s arrival this week compounds it. I’ve decided I’m jealous. I have crown envy.

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On Tuesday 19th of January, Prince William – the 2nd in line to various thrones – will visit Australia for just the second time. It has been reported that he is doing this to “get to know Australia”.

English Rugby fan Prince William tosses it around with some Kiwi kiddies

Since this tour was announced in December, as Media Director for the Australian Republican Movement (ARM), I have been busy with requests from English broadcasters and newspapers.

The interest should have been surprising, since William is only stopping in on Australia for three days for a “semi-official” tour on his way to New Zealand. Moreover, he is visiting only two cities: Sydney and Melbourne. However, given that there has been a massive PR campaign by the Palace to present William as the youthful – cuter – face of the monarchy, it was inevitable that the English press would be awash with expectation about whether Australia would warm to the Prince like good little subjects.

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  • davrosz says:

    08:10am | 30/01/10

    dead right, this debate has absolutely nothing to do with you. Read more »

  • William Mohan says:

    09:09am | 29/01/10

    For people who say the don’t care about the monarchy, you sure are getting in a bit of a tiz over this visit.  Here in the UK we respect and are quite happy to have a constitutional monarch.  We are not forcing you Aussies to have it.  You can vote… Read more »

 

Prince William’s coming visit seems to have resulted in the dramatic conversion of a republican celebrity. This is none other than the editor and media personality Ms. Ita Clare Buttrose AO OBE, who campaigned for the politicians’ republic during the 1999 referendum.

Prince William and his Dad.

Readers of the Wentworth Courier, which circulates in Sydney’s Eastern Suburbs, were surprised then by her harsh dismissal of the No case and indeed of constitutional monarchists.

Ms Buttrose was the founding editor of Cleo which, with its nude male centrefolds, was aimed at young single women. She later edited the more conservative Australian Women’s Weekly and the Daily and Sunday Telegraphs.

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  • Athol says:

    05:26pm | 23/03/11

    I agree with Rev I am a fifth generation Australian and I have lived many places overseas and Australia is one of the best governed places thanks to our constitutional monarchy. In this dreary old era we need the magic and mystique of the Monarchy and Royal Family- a pox… Read more »

  • Pete says:

    05:49pm | 26/01/11

    I think you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned ‘self-esteem’. Unfortunately changing a system of government isn’t going to make Australia grow as a nation. It’s going to come from the achievments of its people.  If you think that changing one of the world’s most successful constitutions… Read more »

 

The secret is out – our next king; unless we come to our senses and become a Republic – will be William, not Charles!

The interesting Prince, with his brother William - left.

That’s what one of the UK’s most respected newspapers has reported and it’s not journalistic hyperbole;  it’s from a secret document which reveals that the Queen will hand over a substantial part of hers and Prince Philip’s duties to their grandson, by-passing Prince Charles.

But that’s not all. The hapless British taxpayer will be asked to give William more money, and Harry as well, inpsite of the enormous income their father receives annually from the Duchy of Cornwall’s bottomless pit of money.

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  • Gerald Richards says:

    07:29pm | 08/01/10

    And Liz, how do you measure the bottom line? Read more »

  • Liz says:

    07:29pm | 07/01/10

    I would think that abolishing state government would be in our nations best interests..becoming a republic won’t make an ounce of difference to our country’s bottom line. Read more »

 

If they weren’t busy washing their hair, watching paint dry or rubbing lard on the cat’s boil, more Australians would have got along to the small soiree in Canberra earlier this month to commemorate the 10th anniversary of the failed republican referendum.

The event was entitled “Ten years on, it’s time to mend the nation’s heart”, taking its cue from Malcolm Turnbull’s pointed referendum night sledge against his eventual boss, Prime Minister John Howard, over his allegedly sinister role in skewering the yes vote.

A small ceremony was held on the lawns of Parliament House in Canberra – Canberra being a terrifically appropriate choice as, from all the states and territories, the ACT was on its own in voting yes - where a statement was read urging both sides of politics to revisit the case for constitutional change.

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  • John says:

    03:40pm | 25/03/11

    Commendable arguments from both sides. Okay, so…all those in favour…..and, all those against….! I would, therefore, suggest that Australia SHALL become a republic through natural progression, and over a period of time. Case closed. Read more »

  • Lyn says:

    12:06am | 24/11/09

    The idea of a republic may not be a bread and butter issue, but since when did we subvert the visionary ideas that this country is built on. Democracy is an ever evolving thing and if we can change it for the better - why not? No matter what form… Read more »

 

Harry M Miller’s revelation that Prince Charles wondered why Australia remained a constitutional monarchy will come as no surprise to those of us who have been reporting on and watching the British royals for some time.

And in closing may I just say…Australia, what the hell were you thinking?

If there’s one thing that senior members of the royal family detest it’s the fawning and groveling of those they meet, and Australia heads the list of major offenders in that department.

As an example, some years ago the Queen decided that the last century habit of women dropping a curtsy was no longer necessary but the individuals could continue to bend the knee if it made them happy.

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  • Emily says:

    09:29pm | 07/02/12

    You’re so right Peter. Their is a hcdraore of monarchists who will never change their views, irrespective of the facts. In fact I think they’re partially motivated by the illogic of the monarchy. There’s also a deep strain of anti-republicanism amongst the self-appointed supporters of the monarchy. Read more »

  • Barbara says:

    02:42am | 18/11/09

    Clever wording won the day for Howard and the Monarchists…...Cant wait for the next vote….bring it on Read more »

 

Welcome to Friday @ The Punch

On this day in 1999 Australia held a referendum asking two questions. The first was should Australia become a republic, the second whether the constitution should be amended to include a preamble. Neither amendments were passed.  What did you vote for? Has your opinion changed?

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  • peter says:

    11:13pm | 06/11/09

    I was an emphatic yes on the republic and an apathetic yes (if that’s possible) on the preamble. My republican convictions haven’t weakened, only hardened. Read more »

  • Kia says:

    04:34pm | 06/11/09

    I, too, was only 18 at the time…while I don’t remember how I voted, I do remember being very annoyed that I had to go vote whilst hungover! I would more than likely vote yes if we had to go back again today. Read more »

 

The next time the London Philharmonic Orchestra tours Australia, will somebody please tell the conductor that the playing of God Save the Queen is just not on and certainly not before the National Anthem of Australia is played.

Emily Blunt and Rupert Friend from The Young Victoria

There’s some mad theory around that the British anthem was played because the Duke of Kent was in the audience.

The Duke of who? There wouldn’t be many Australians who have ever heard of him and to put those who haven’t out of their collective miseries here’s who he is:  he’s Prince Edward , a cousin of the Queen’s and is in the first 20 in line to the English throne.

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  • Alex Fishburn says:

    04:21pm | 16/10/09

    @Lyn P. Look at the votes for the model. The convention’s proceedings were recorded in Hansard so this is easy to do. A whole bunch of models were put to the vote and the loser in each round was knocked out. The Turnbull model was in the lead the whole… Read more »

  • Lyn P says:

    09:48pm | 15/10/09

    Well Dave C you either don’t know your history or you are spinning a monarchist line, because those that were involved, know that it was an ‘engineered’ convention designed to push the issue off the agenda. The nasty games played ensured that a humungus wedge was inserted between the direct… Read more »

 

The Australian monarchists are divided – David Flint and his tightly controlled Australians for a Constitutional Monarchy (ACM) claim the Governor General is the Australian head of state while Philip Benwell and his Australian Monarch League (AML) are with the Republicans – it’s the foreign non resident unelected British Queen who holds this nation’s top job.

Republican ridicule from The Australian's Bill Leak.

Ten years up the track, the debate is simmering away under the surface and right now Flint is holding the trump cards – he is said to pull in half a million dollars a year towards his cause which is remarkable considering ACM has only two members – Flint and his sidekick former Roman Catholic seminarian Thomas Flynn. The movement’s constitution is clever; its run by the pair with the help of would be members, who are non voting “supporters”

Professor Flint’s latest take on the vexed subject of a republic revolves around the quaint notion that if we change the constitution we’ll have a “politician’s republic”. He fails to mention we are now laboring under a “politician’s monarchy” – a point Tony Blair underscored when he pulled the Queen into line over her unbelievable indifference to the death of Princess Diana in 1997.

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  • TJ says:

    09:34am | 22/02/11

    What low blows not only to the Queen and the Royal Family but to the British/ English people in general. We are one family the last time I checked, a commonwealth of nations, of borthers and sisters, where we (Britain) has done alot for the commonwealth. Her Majesty has made… Read more »

  • Mark says:

    07:14pm | 29/10/09

    Can anyone argue that our current system hasnt worked? Furthermor I can not see how in a republic a President could repesent the entire community the way a monarch does. Firstly if the parliment elects the President then the President only represents the parliment and isnt constitutional either. The second… Read more »

 

First, a confession: I love England. The Beatles and Radiohead are my two favourite bands, I daydream about watching Manchester United beat Liverpool at Old Trafford and I love washing down crumpets with a nice cup of tea as much as anyone.

Are we seriously waiting for this pair to be King and Queen because we couldn't be bothered doing anything about it?

However, in my role as the National Youth Convener of the Australian Republic Movement, I get to speak to a lot of young people about why Australia should become a republic and how our generation can make a big difference in making that goal a reality.

Unsurprisingly, most of the young people I speak to agree: it’s time for an Australian to be our head-of-state, not a foreign monarch who happened to be the first-born of the previous monarch.

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  • David says:

    10:52am | 10/09/09

    Good one Brett.  Let’s have a real democracy with a constitution of the people by the people for the people, rather than an unelected head of state from a foreign royal family. Read more »

  • Matty says:

    12:56pm | 09/09/09

    Dan, when you say the Queen has “loyally served this nation with absolute dignity for over half a century!”, I’d be keen to know what she has actually done apart from rock up to the Commonwealth games and have a $350,000 bejewelled carriage made up for her that has taken… Read more »

 

I realise it is incredibly un-trendy to like the monarchy. Heck, sometimes I even wish that the French revolution had never taken place, if only for my personal amusement of watching England and France compete via the insecurities of their ruling leaders, as they did once upon a time.

Think of all the gowns; the pomp, drama and arrogance; and the lavish court parties that could have taken place, and, lest I forget, the option of eating cake when bread was not available.

But, personal amusement aside, watching The Young Victoria just reinstated how much I like having a queen on a throne, even if she’s technically not part of my country and much of a half world away.

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  • Nicholas Folkes says:

    12:00am | 14/09/09

    TonyO, you are right to state that “James Scully seems a bit mixed up:.....this typifies most Republicans and their total lack of knowledge about the Crown, role of GG and the Constitution. Half of the adult population do not even know that we have a Constitution and over 80% of… Read more »

  • Dave says:

    07:44pm | 13/09/09

    TonyO, it is you who seem to be mixed up.  The Queen is the titular Head of State in Australia.  However as the Queen does not reside in Australia she appoints a Governor-General as an effective Head of State (that is why we have a Governor-General).  However the Governor General… Read more »

 

Yesterday we blew the froth off a couple in honour of our sovereign, Queen Elizabeth II, and observed her birthday with a package of pieces on the republic which, overall, concluded there appears to be no mass groundswell for another crack at constitutional reform.

Even the republicans are worried that our pollies are simply waiting for the Queen to die so that the issue can somehow resolve itself. Follow the links below to read the pieces.

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  • Jonathan says:

    11:57am | 19/06/09

    The last referendum was a complete farce.  Any question this important should be posed in simple terms, i.e. 1. Should Australia be a Republic? Y/N; 2. If Yes, should the President (a) be elected by the people, or (b) appointed by politicians? etc.  Not the rubbish proposed by Howard where… Read more »

  • Andrew says:

    03:31pm | 15/06/09

    There is one basic and over riding fact that cannot be changed by any rhetoric, logic or emotion from the Monarchists in this debate - the head of state of Australian can never be an Australian. It is a title inherited by someone in England! There are not many advanced… Read more »

 

The losers in 1999 have the utter gall to demand we abandon our oldest public holiday celebrating our oldest institution, one central to our Westminster system.

On almost every Queen’s Birthday republicans usually rush into the media. This year they’re saying putting republicanism on the political agenda will help the nation recover from the recession. Without a scintilla of evidence, they say the growing interest in Anzac Day is because of republican sentiment.

This shouldn’t surprise anyone. In the nineties they were saying a republic would overcome unemployment, improve trade, free artistic talent, increase immigration, and enhance our standing in Asia.

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  • Daniel Urquhart says:

    09:08pm | 22/06/09

    Yes, Trevor, because the constitutional monarchy has SOOOO protected the rights of unborn children, ensured active participating in politics and is so anti-scoailist (I mean, lord, most monarchists are hoarding Keynesians’). As I said, look into citizen initated referenda - the realm where reason prevails. Jesus believed people should get… Read more »

  • Trevor says:

    02:01am | 21/06/09

    The arguement by those pushing for a republic the likes of Bob Brown is soley because thay want to change our Constitution, and to do one thing and one thing only, and that is to remove all that our Christian forefathers placed in the Constitution to protect us from all… Read more »

 

We've come a long way Baby - or have we? Nicholson in The Australian, 1997

The republic debate has evolved since 1999. Traditional approaches to the question still have bite, including general arguments for or against monarchy/republic as well as the nationalist appeal of a republic in Australia and the cost to the public purse of constitutional change.

But the recent Senate hearings into Senator Bob Brown’s bill to hold a republic plebiscite at the time of the next election displayed a number of new developments.

The inevitable first new aspect of the debate has been about the meaning of the 1999 referendum result. An important thread of monarchist argument, often tried in letters to the editor, has been that the matter has been decided because the people have spoken. Republicans have had their chance and should abandon their cause.

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  • Justin Davies says:

    11:44pm | 19/06/09

    With all that is going on in our country not to mention the rest of the world, Could you please tell me why we are bothering to discuss this non-issue?Joe average Australian does not care, I promise you. From what I can gather, the people of this country would much… Read more »

 

Here’s the worst political ad ever made in Australia:

It’s not a very good version, I know. It’s grainy, and the words don’t line up properly.

But you get the general idea: the two worst prime ministers of our modern history, delivering a boring and patronising monologue about something which should have been exciting and inclusive.

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  • LG says:

    02:11pm | 10/02/10

    Prince Charles has also been trained from infancy for the job. I see no merit in him leading us. Read more »

  • Alexander Fishburner says:

    03:48pm | 12/06/09

    The funny thing about that video is it has Malcolm Fraser’s lips moving but Gough Whitlam’s words coming out. How apt! Read more »

 

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