Qantas

Would you fly on this plane? The good-as-new Nancy Bird-Walton touched down in Sydney yesterday, ready once again to ferry passengers around the world. Qantas boss Alan Joyce reckons people will have no worries about hopping onboard this particular flying kangaroo. Do you share his optimism?

Pffft, it's just a flesh wound

There are two ways of looking at this. The first is that this was a new plane with a minor fault (a faulty oil pipe) which nearly caused a major crash. Not good. Alternatively, you could argue that it’s pretty damn amazing that the plane was able to land considering it suffered a pierced wing, punctured fuel tanks and wiring and hydraulics damage.

What say you about this and all other things that happened on the weekend? Anything else grabbed your attention?

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  • The Silver Fox McScrooge says:

    09:00pm | 23/04/12

    Let me guess Draconian, you either work in or operate a business that benfits from the mining and the cars coming through the top end. You yourself own a 4wd and a couple of cross bred mutts that you take pig shooting whenever you can. You fish all the northern… Read more »

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    Daniel Piotrowski says:

    07:14pm | 23/04/12

    Dunno about the content of your comments specifically - but because of legal issues surrounding we had to be very stringent with what comments we published today. Read more »

 

When Alan Joyce wakes up every morning, there is always the slim chance that several hundred people travelling in a metal tube branded with the Qantas insignia will have plummeted thousands of feet to their doom.

Pretty fly for a white guy. Picture: Ray Strange

The CEOs of the Big Four Banks don’t have that problem. They fear falls of a less lethal kind. Wall Street plunges don’t kill. And unlike plane wrecks, there is always the chance of a rebound.

This might seem a dramatically ghoulish way to portray the inherent risks of two fundamentally different businesses, but it’s worth considering in light of Qantas’s paltry net profit of $43 million in the six months to December. Compare that to the $3 billion or so of the major banks and it’s like a Cessna to an A380.

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  • Buzz says:

    04:07pm | 17/02/12

    Agreed, a terrible business indeed. Ansett (and qantas) survived on Govt handouts that stopped when AIRNZ was forced to buy Ansett as part of the C.E.R. deal with NZ - the part Australia decided to change the rules late in the game. “if Thou wishes to fly internally in Austtalia… Read more »

  • Stuart says:

    04:07pm | 17/02/12

    I can’t imagine that any banker would want to run an airline or any other company.Not many other directors would get the benefits these guys get for ripping us off except polititions. Read more »

 

The yips. It’s an old golf term which refers to golfers who lose the ability to putt. They stand over the ball and they tremble. They quake. They can barely hold the damn club, let alone propel the ball into a hole that suddenly appears the size of a thimble.


The term has since migrated across to other sports. Beijing gold medallist Steve Hooker today admitted that he has the pole vault yips. He just can’t place that pole in the right spot anymore, and his London campaign is in severe jeopardy.

If it’s any consolation Steve, you’re not the only person struggling to get your mojo back. Several other prominent Australians across all walks of life have totally lost the ability to do the thing they were once pretty good at. Here are five more prominent cases of the Yips. The Punch heartily invites more suggestions from you.

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  • E. Barton says:

    02:36pm | 11/02/12

    @stephen I thought it was a rhetorical question but you really don’t know anything about democracy. I shouldn’t have given you the benefit of the doubt. Read more »

  • stephen says:

    03:11pm | 10/02/12

    Julia wasn’t elected Eddy, and though she is doing her best, I suspect that the deal to get her in The Lodge was that so many minders would be backstage playing with strings until 2013, when Bill Shorten will be launched with all guns blazing, and with a new suit.… Read more »

 

Julia Gillard wanted her huge compensation package to give the carbon pricing scheme a soft landing in July. But Qantas has shot down that hope with February price rises.

Fasten your seatbelts. Pic: Supplied

The carbon scheme pushing up Qantas fares is the European version. But their penalty on emissions is much smaller than our $23 a tonne will be. The impact here could be greater. Opposition leader Tony Abbott will use this to further underline his claim that carbon pricing will hurt the economy, and to question whether families will be fully protected from rises in expenses.

The airline has preempted by two months the start of the Government’s carbon pricing compensation, $1.5 billion which was to go to welfare recipients in May and June as advance payments.

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  • Richard says:

    12:20pm | 16/02/12

    A sure fire way to make an easy $1,000,000 in the airline industry !!! Invest $2,000,000 and wait !!!!! Read more »

  • Tom says:

    01:13pm | 04/02/12

    John, the first comment was mine, not yours. My comment was in response to Nathan who was peddling this Labor “equivalence” BS between Gillard’s carbon tax and Howard’s GST actions. Nathan’s topic was “equivalence”. My topic was “equivalence”. To now try to re-write everything to “I only want to discuss… Read more »

 

I hope everyone enjoyed their Christmas yesterday, whatever you ended up doing. I spent the day, as I do every year, with my large family, which seems to grow every year.

This picture may make you thirsty for that cool, refreshing Schweppervescence, which is actually not the point Ged's trying to get across.

Like many Australians, I’m looking forward to spending the next few weeks, relaxing, doing some reading, hanging out at the beach, catching up with family and friends – and doing a few chores around the house that I’ve been putting off for far too long.

But, of course, many others worked yesterday, and will be working during the summer break. When I was a nurse, I often worked on public holidays, including Christmas, which gave me a real appreciation of the penalty rates unions have won as compensation for those rostered on at those times.

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  • Steve says:

    01:40pm | 29/12/11

    Employers give money / Unions take money from workers. (and spend it on themselves on brothels , holidays etc. Unions block young workers from getting jobs by keeping the cushy scams going other older union members. Read more »

  • Wilma J Craig says:

    11:42am | 29/12/11

    Gabrielle, She did not do that she simply got up, walked across to her niece, tossed the rag into her lap and said ” Sue, you can wear this yourself & if it doesn’t fit then take it back where you got it from” She is 88 & doesn’t drive… Read more »

 

What happened
The spirit of Australia was sunk for a little under two days at the end of October. Qantas CEO Alan Joyce grounded the entire Qantas fleet in a bid to end industrial action from Qantas pilots, engineers and ground staff.


Staff were up in arms over the national carrier’s plans to refocus the business on Asia, which would cost around 1000 jobs here in Australia. Staff were also up in arms about pay and job security.

What happened next
Tens of thousands of domestic and international travellers found themselves stranded in unfamiliar cities. When The Herald-Sun asked one irate Qantas passenger who was stranded in Singapore what he’d do if he ran into Alan Joyce, he said: “I’d punch him. I wouldn’t treat a dog the way he’s treated us.”

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  • Achmed says:

    09:49pm | 06/12/11

    Unions still do have a place. People focus on the couple of high profile Unions or on the unions involved ina dispute such as this one. You never here of the Shoppies Union and other moderrate unions that cover people working in jobs like checkout ‘chicks’ or child care etc… Read more »

  • Breeanna C says:

    07:57pm | 06/12/11

    Alan Joyce is not a foreigner!  He has been living and working in Australia since 1996.  He has taken up an Australian citizenship.  It’s fine to have a go at his business practices if you don’t like them, but the blatant racism (yes, it’s racism) has got to stop.  He… Read more »

 

Twitter. It’s smarter than the average marketing company. More powerful, in its way, than the cleverest corporate PR machine. It’s loud, fierce, fast and honest. It’s the tool of the people and it’s here to stay.

Lesson 1: Here's how it works. People say what they think, not what you want to hear. Photo: Sky News.

Just ask Qantas. Not for the first time this year, somebody at The Occasionally Flying Kangaroo got the wrong end of the stick.

Yesterday’s #qantasluxury hashtag campaign was intended to boost goodwill for the company. They asked their customers to tweet their ideal luxury flight to generate some good publicity. It was meant to be the social media equivalent of a head massage. But it backfired.

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  • The Badger says:

    06:48pm | 24/11/11

    *sigh* You obviously don’t get it either timmie. sad very sad. back to the bucket of KFC, your greasy games controllerand your sad sad reality. Read more »

  • TimB says:

    04:57pm | 24/11/11

    You know what does an even better job of that Badger? Email. What kind of quality research can you expect from correspondence bursts of 140 characters? Awful. Even worse problems occur if the feeds are public. Discussions on flu virus research, right out there on the internet? Freaking genius. Read more »

 

Here’s an elaborate conspiracy theory. In a dark corner of a scungy pub in the Sydney suburb of Marrickville, socialist double agent Alan Joyce is downing schooners of Tooheys New with Transport Minister and Left faction operative Anthony Albanese as they toast their collective success in making Labor relevant again.

Fifth columnist…Alan Joyce addresses the 4th International in Minsk. Photo: James Croucher

The Qantas chief executive may have unwittingly done more than anyone to get the Labor Party off the mat by bringing on a massive, nation-stopping industrial brawl which let the ALP remind the voters exactly what it stood for.

For many voters, that’s not necessarily a positive thing. In the minds of many people Julia Gillard’s handling of the Qantas dispute will have only reinforced their view that Labor remains the captive of union self-interest in an age when a minority of Australian workers is unionised. These people aren’t going to vote Labor anyway.

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  • nfw says:

    09:00am | 13/11/11

    Tony who? Read more »

  • John Mainard Kaynes says:

    02:41am | 13/11/11

    I’m certain that we aren’t watching the same events. All the power of Fair Work Australia, instigated by an Oligopolist, and brought to fruition by a compliant Labor Prime Minister was brought to bear on ...Red Tie wearing pilots. Imagine that. What anarchist! According to her side kick, Swan and… Read more »

 

How would you feel if you were the Qantas CEO and people were telling you loudly that they loved Virgin Australia as you were walking through the airport? For some, Alan Joyce is a hero for taking on the unions, but for others he is a person who should hear firsthand the distress suffered by those Qantas passengers stranded during the shutdown he ordered.

Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde

Sadly, the debate for many has become centred on a particular individual. The CEO of a company should command wide ranging respect from all the company’s stakeholders. It’s certainly not enough to be loved by your management peers at other companies. They’re only good for giving you a new job if you leave the old one because you have lost the moral authority to succeed in your current position.

History will judge Alan Joyce as a CEO, but in the meantime Qantas management must stand collectively in being fully accountable for their recent decisions and for presenting a vision to get Qantas back on track as the great iconic company that it has been.

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  • tauras says:

    11:12am | 25/04/12

    Get real ....STAFF go into business class before any upgrades on points frequent flyers ...you haved to look after your staff!!! Qantas staff at airports make sure that the staff get upgraded before any points upgrades. Read more »

  • Gavin says:

    10:07am | 16/11/11

    I find it hilarious people being up in arms about losing jobs overseas, but in the same breath state they will never fly Qantas again. Err, what do you think happens to all those Australian staff now? Quit your whining, get over yourselves, and if you really want to save… Read more »

 

What price forgiveness? Will a free plane ride make you take Qantas back into your heart? Will you once again feel a tickle of pride and fondness as the falsetto notes of ‘I Still Call Australia Home’ rise from those precocious young throats?

Kudelka gold. See www.kudelka.com.au for more

For most people, the answer will be: “Hell yeah, and I’ll take one of those fluffy kangaroos home for the kids!”. We can’t sustain moral outrage for long, especially in the face of compensation.

The Qantas ‘crisis’ is a numbers game from start to finish, and it’s a game they’ll probably win.

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  • Linda says:

    07:14am | 08/11/11

    The industrial dispute WAS about safety and maintenance as well. So back to square one. Read more »

  • Debs says:

    07:00pm | 07/11/11

    OK ... so flying overseas ... presumably mean ex Australia in the current context ... the only Virgin you could possibly be leaving from these shores on would be Virgin Australia or its wholly owned international airline V Australia. Bringing Virgin Atlantic into the discussion is B.S. I did note… Read more »

 

Contempt ran deep for the old IR club with its protected unions and compulsory arbitration, spawning the short-lived “new right”, animating the HR Nicholls Society, and stiffening the resolve of a new wave of Liberals intent on dismantling a century of state-controlled employment relations and labour market rigidity.

Cartoon: Mark Knight

The anti-club’s high water mark was, however, its ultimate undoing: John Howard’s WorkChoices and the removal of the no-disadvantage test from individual work contracts.

This over-reach led to the 2007 defeat by Kevin Rudd and to the current Opposition Leader, Tony Abbott declaring at the 2010 poll that WorkChoices was: “dead, buried, cremated” - in that order! It wasn’t the end of the Liberal recant.

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  • PsychoHyena says:

    09:39am | 07/11/11

    @AtM Actually the issue with the Tas health system is that after Jim Bacon we had absolute shite for Premiers and the current Premier is trying to repair all the damage while getting dragged over hot coals for what needs to be done to fix the issues. Tas also failed… Read more »

  • St. Michael says:

    03:50pm | 05/11/11

    *spanks acotrel* What’re you doing? You know better than this! Read more »

 

An industrial dispute has two sides – employer and employee. The Qantas dispute had a very important third side – the innocent travelling public. How they see the dispute, and which side they blame, will be important in the backwash.

I've got it! We'll challenge Alan Joyce to a game of ping pong… winner takes all! Pic: Stuart McEvoy.

If they blame Qantas, the airline will have problems regaining, let alone improving, its share of the market. If they blame the unions, Qantas will have a strengthened bargaining position.

Did Qantas have any alternative to the extraordinary decision to ground the fleet? It was facing continuous scattergun strikes, and the unions involved were not showing any intention to try to come to a compromise. The grounding tactic was clever, in that it forced the government to bring Fair Work Australia into the game, with the result that the guerilla strikes were ended.

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  • Cate says:

    02:54pm | 04/11/11

    The Men Who Killed QANTAS Price: $36.95 Author: Benns, Matthew Published: 2009 Binding: Softcover No. Pages: 292 Dimensions: 15 x 23 Illustrations: 16 page photo section   Description: Publisher`s Notes: The book every Australian airline passenger needs to read ... and the book the executives of Qantas wish would go… Read more »

  • thatmosis says:

    12:33pm | 04/11/11

    Steve, Steve, Steve, I know its not polite to talk about the brain impaired but really, is that your whole arguement, tsk, tsk. The Unions have about 8% of the workforce in Australia but nearly if not 100% of the industrial action taken. Any excuse to down tools and have… Read more »

 

My sympathy to all those travellers stranded at various uncomfortable airports over the weekend.

The funniest thing about being stuck here forever is… actually I'm just loopy from boredom. Photo: news.com.au

But as the nation echoes with complaints about the difficulties involved in getting from Point A to Point B, I can’t help but wonder whether our expectations about the ease of flying are becoming a tad unrealistic.

After all, air travel is supposed to involve gross inconvenience and burlesque mishap. That’s air travel’s job. And no amount of insurance, meticulous advance planning or industrial relations tranquility will protect you.

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  • marley says:

    07:31pm | 03/11/11

    @Simon - When I think of George Street, I think of Glasgow.  Sue me.  The world is not based on Sydney. Read more »

  • stephen says:

    07:00pm | 03/11/11

    ‘Dancing lessons from God’s’ a goodin ems. I’d like Fran up there get polka lessons from the devil. Strip polka. ‘two horns and a pitchfork ... hmmm ... now lets see, what can I do with that ?’ Read more »

 

Much of the public commentary around the Qantas dispute has been so undergraduate that you would think it had been authored by the people at Occupy Wall Street. But it is Qantas itself which invited much of the negative coverage by not thinking through its tactics last week ahead of the dramatic events of the weekend.

Let me run this airline. Photo: Nic Gibson

This dispute has at its centre a pretty simple question – does Qantas management have the right to manage Qantas? Or should Tony Sheldon from the Transport Workers Union have veto power over everything from how many staff the airline employs, when and where its aircraft hangars are built, who maintains its fleet, to whether it is allowed to expand into Asia?

I am not an aviation writer but at a guess I would say that as a former senior executive at Aer Lingus and the successfully expansionist boss of the fledgling airline Jetstar, Qantas chief executive Alan Joyce knows a bit more about running airlines than Tony Sheldon.

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  • mark says:

    12:08pm | 07/11/11

    so you support the mobilisation of Qantas maintenance services of shore or not? kinda hypocritical to complain about Joyces salary being X times biger than those staff on the ground, when those staff get paid X times the person in india just as qualified to do the same job. If… Read more »

  • sleepless in sydney says:

    09:46pm | 05/11/11

    David, disappointed in your observation as to what transpires for Australian workers, we should look to Norway as to their mature attitude to keeping their country at the top of the leaderboard .. at least they have a vision for their people and their assets from mining rathre than denigrate… Read more »

 

Alan Joyce seems to have copped the ire of just about everyone because he was the bloke announcing Saturday’s decision to ground the Qantas fleet

Cartoon: Warren Brown

The decision was understandably unpopular with those stranded travellers who had their plans thrown into disarray – and we can certainly all understand their anger and sympathise with them. 

But for every person affected by the 48 hours or so that Qantas wasn’t flying, there will be many more Qantas travellers over the next 21 days who have finally got certainty with the Fair Work Australia decision to disallow industrial action.  Moreover, those thinking of flying in the future will be able to book with Qantas with certainty.

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  • Dr McKay says:

    12:01pm | 10/01/12

    Sandra, and 100% safety recordefore we moved maintenance offshore. Just because the rest of the world want our well trained people, and doesn’t mean we should accept their substandard ones does it?? Read more »

  • Harvey says:

    11:10pm | 02/11/11

    No, it’s not. It’s the 70,000 stranded passengers. Read the article. Read more »

 

First Alan, congratulations on your pay rise, and congratulations on Qantas’ profit in the last financial year. But sadly, I can’t congratulate you on your decision to take your bat and ball, and your aeroplanes, and go home.

Just some of the destinations you couldn't get to this week on Qantas thanks to the guy on the right. Pic: Alan Pryke

Let me make this clear, you had a lot of options to resolve this dispute, but you picked the nuclear option, the one that caused the most disruption to passengers and the tourism industry.

On Saturday you chose to become the CEO that stops the nation, grounding Qantas’ fleet and stranding thousands of people from outback doctors, foreign leaders, and Spring Carnival punters.

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  • Saskia says:

    05:07pm | 02/11/11

    The Union DID do this.  The Union caused this.  As stated by some Union twat “we are going to bake QANTAS slowly’.  What a grub. Go back to the 1880’s you Union hacks.  Unions have NO place running a business.  If you don’t like your job - quit and get… Read more »

  • Kev says:

    04:46pm | 02/11/11

    So, Ged Kearney the current president of the ACTU, pens an article supporting the unions who clearly stated their intentional tactic to “Slow Bake Qantas” via disruptive union actions, and also advised customers “not to buy Qantas tickets”, justifies the union thuggery by blaming Qantas for a very justified action… Read more »

 

Jesus motherloving Christ. If Alan Joyce is making a late bid for Twat of the Year 2011, then he’s eating daylight on his competitors. On Saturday the Qantas CEO shut down worldwide operations of one of the planet’s biggest airlines, in an over-reaction that made King Lear look pretty chill.

There's no one I'd rather have at the controls than a Qantas pilot

Like one of those seasoned chooks you get all ready for roasting, some things come pre-satirised. On Friday, Joyce asked shareholders at Qantas’ annual general meeting to give him a pay rise of 71 per cent, from under $3 million a year to about $5 million. They did. The next day, he shut down their company entirely, because of the “extreme demands” of workers. First prize, Alan. Believe.

Where unions have to give 72 hours notice of any action, Joyce gave zero hours. He stranded 68,000 people worldwide, upended the plans of tens of thousands more, and lost an unquantifiable number of future bookings.

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  • buy bystolic online says:

    02:07pm | 29/02/12

    And effects, a with towards one size three ten seven feet can. For is such important or better. Read more »

  • James says:

    07:07pm | 02/11/11

    Thanks for a well written article. Read more »

 

Update: In the very early hours of this morning Fair Work Australia terminated the chaotic industrial action between Qantas and the unions.Qantas says they expect flight to be grounded till 12noon today. With Alan Joyce telling the media flights may be back in the air by early afternoon today. Almost 70,000 passengers have been stranded in Australia and around the world.

“It’s good to fly Qantas,” said Tony Abbott, meaning to be heard, as yesterday afternoon he stepped from an aircraft at Canberra airport.

Back to work:Industrial action has now been terminated. Photo: Herald Sun

Actually the plane belonged to QantasLink, a related combine of three regional airlines, diverted from Mildura to pick up passengers in Melbourne.

But it was the closest any of us got to a Qantas service yesterday. And Tony Abbott is the closest that Qantas CEO Alan Joyce has to a friend in Australian public life at the moment.

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  • Ex-Qantas employee says:

    06:53am | 01/11/11

    @TimB and @Ben C “More importantly in your example, if the CEO was apparently so unnecessary during those eight months, why did they bother appointing one at the end?” When Qantas was a Government enterprise, the CEO was paid $350k pa.  When the airline was privatised, they waited 8 months… Read more »

  • Stiffy says:

    05:37am | 01/11/11

    There are two major reasons why most people fly on an airline. Price and Reliability. The standard of comfort/entertainment is also a considering factor for long haul flights. Since the demise of Ansett and the rise of Virgin, Qantas has moved to cater for the business end of the market.… Read more »

 

Somewhere in California a student is having a laugh. His name is Alan Joyce and he holds the Twitter handle @Alanjoyce. A number of people, of whom I am one, wrongly added that name to tweets on the grounding of Qantas (If you’re so proud of taking the “hard decision” how about making one about your pay @alanjoyce ? #qantas).

Altogether now: I still call Australia home. Pic: Sam Ruttyn

Fellow tweeps pointed out the error and corrections were quickly posted. I even apologized to Mr @alanjoyce, somewhat pointlessly as the Stanford student understands full well that he does not run an airline any more than the former Hawthorn coach (Alan Joyce) does.

The reason my @alanjoyce tweet got a life of its own was that so many people apparently agreed with the sentiment and retweeted it. Some did not agree but retweeted it too.

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  • D Kef. says:

    07:38pm | 22/02/12

    I have managed to save out of my pensions for an annual overseas trip most years. Used to be Qantas. Now any airline but. Until AJ is gone. Read more »

  • Christian Real says:

    06:29am | 05/11/11

    Against the Man (boy) It appears that no matter what private enterprise does, like the CEO deliberately grounding his airline, you and other Liberal bloggers will always blame the Prime Minister or the Unions. The fact is,the blame lies directly with the CEO of Qantas, but you and other Liberal… Read more »

 

Anonymous writes: Dear Punch. Please help me properly direct my anger.

Illustration: Stuart Krygsman

I’m set to fly to Sydney in a few weeks for a long-awaited, much-anticipated blokes’ weekend but our plans are under threat from this Qantas strike action. Normally I’d have no issue railing against the fat cats at the top.

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  • stephen says:

    12:16am | 17/10/11

    The difference is I think between the salaries of domestic pilots against international pilots, the latter earning more than three times as much. This is only an estimate, and if it is right, should be corrected, for, why would a local trip, with current technology and union rules on labour,… Read more »

  • Aaron says:

    11:14pm | 16/10/11

    “Let’s ignore that the workers are applying for a 12% increase and some job security whilst their bosses have been awared a significant rise (both by percentage and actual dollar value).” The point is their CURRENT conditions are claimed to be too high, the 12% pay rise fades into insignificance.… Read more »

 

Is it right that foreign employees of an Australian company get paid Third World wages while foreign managers of the same company get paid first-world salaries?

Another Qantas job outsourced to cheap Third World Hollywood labour. Pic: AFP

Do we still believe in the principle of equal pay for equal work? Or is it a case of George Orwell’s famous line in his novel Animal Farm to the effect that we are all equal but some are more equal than others?

All good questions as Australian companies are increasingly shifting operations offshore. We are told that Australian wages and salaries are too high and that moving offshore will “save” the company money by cutting labour costs.

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  • Luke says:

    12:54pm | 15/09/11

    Thanks mate. I will be looking into it. Read more »

  • St. Michael says:

    11:09am | 15/09/11

    @ Luke: Cheers.  In terms of a brief bibliography, I’d cite “The Ascent of Money”, “The Logic of Life”, Milton Friedman’s documentary as indicated, and, on the American public school system, the recent documentary “Waiting for Superman”.  Details on Australia’s public school history are from education department websites; it’s pretty… Read more »

 

“There Is No Alternative” was a favourite line of Margaret Thatcher’s whenever she was trying to push one of her ideas on to the public.

Aussie workers are just as capable of walking down steps as Asian ones. Pic

The “TINA” philosophy has become part of the armoury of governments, big corporations, and others who want to convince us that we are naïve, ill-informed or stupid when we try and question the wisdom of their decisions.

Qantas is the latest example of a major company trying to convince us that There Is No Alternative to its plans to shift its operations offshore, and to cut about 1000 jobs here in Australia.

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  • Andrew says:

    07:35am | 24/08/11

    Ged your comments also sound pretty hypocritical given the government has just dropped a bomb of money to help BlueScope steel employees, also another privately owned Australian business. Why aren’t you calling for support for Qantas employees instead of whinging about managements decision to restructure. Would you prefer 1000 employees… Read more »

  • acotrel says:

    05:41am | 24/08/11

    @Dovif The free market was introduced into Australia by Hawke, Keating, Hewson and Howard.  How is Kevin Rudd to blame?  All he did was continue the process of removing barriers to trade, when he allowed foreign airlines access into Australian airports.  I suggest you are fixated on an ideology, and… Read more »

 

If you’re willing to sleep around, don’t be surprised if your partner gives you the cold shoulder.

Blue skies ahead? Pic: qantas.com.au.

This week the nation cried foul at the thought of Qantas, our beloved flying kangaroo, shooting through to Asia.

First of all, Qantas hasn’t done a runner. As CEO Alan Joyce says, the company is looking to shed 1000 of its 35,000-strong Australian workforce and establish two news carriers in Asia to increase its global competitiveness.

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  • Kika says:

    01:01pm | 23/08/11

    ahaha totally agree. We bemoan Qantas for bad service but expect them to be of Asian quality? Hello! They are lazy Aussies just like we are. Hahaha. Read more »

  • Kika says:

    12:43pm | 23/08/11

    I don’t get it. We herald Qantas for being ‘safe’ yet when it comes down the bottom line we’ll fly Singapore Airlines or Malaysian because they are cheaper. Does safety concerns play a role when you fly with them instead? Read more »

 

Reading the massive Qantas wraparound ads in the papers yesterday, you could be excused for thinking Qantas was set to employ 11 year old junior lifeguards as cabin crew.

Would you like the chicken or the beef tonight Madam?

The spin-heavy ad campaign had the tagline “There’s a new spirit”, and was a backdrop to the announcement that Qantas would restructure itself by cutting 1,000 of its 35,000 staff, while also peparing to set up a new premium service in Asia.

Qantas has long relied on the feelgood factor in its marketing. You know that fantastic feeling when you touch down at an Australian airport after a trip overseas? Qantas has successfully bottled and sold that emotion. It’s our country. Our airline. You bloody beauty. Last night, however, many people voiced concerns that our airline was slipping away. And boy, did Qantas CEO Alan Joyce come out swinging in its defence.

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  • Jerra says:

    06:03pm | 18/08/11

    Qantas has had a jet airliner accident… in Bangkok.  They even spent something like $150m to fix it so it was only an ‘incident’ not a ‘accident’.  That’s looking after the brand in it’s most crass terms. Read more »

  • Zopo says:

    11:59am | 18/08/11

    I do agree with the notion through of what is the point of a brand if it is just a logo. A companies culture is also much a part of the brand as the logo. I always look to QANTAS when flying overseas but always pick another airline as they… Read more »

 

The key take out that everyone in Australia got from the recent Qantas incident in Singapore is that pilot experience is critically important. 

As Aussie as Powderfinger ... or is it?

As more and more information filters about just how serious the situation was with QF32, pilot training and experience are being widely acknowledged, from the CEO of Qantas down, as having arguably made the difference.

Given the travails of Qantas over recent weeks, you would think that Jetstar would think twice about its absurd plans to put less and less experienced pilots in the cockpit of its aircraft.

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  • sarah says:

    11:19pm | 07/01/11

    And sooooo unsafe!  They already have the cabin crew from cheaper countries with training that is not up to scratch.  I know someone who works for Jetstar and if there is a “medical” onboard, the foreign crew go get an Aussie to deal with it cause they dont know what… Read more »

  • Meh says:

    12:13pm | 30/12/10

    Better still, why not outsource Jetstar management to the Thai and Singapore based crews? They all hold at least one (in many cases multiple) degree, speak several languages and are happy to work the 17+ hour days that JQ management require them to do for under $700 per month. That’ll… Read more »

 

By now there should be a persistent warning light flashing in the cockpit of the good ship Qantas. It’s indicating that a large mass of brand confidence among the Australian public is smouldering strongly, emitting smoke and may be about to drop off the starboard wing into the sea.

A close-up of the stricken A380 in Singapore. Photo: AP

It used to be welded on but there’s definitely a crack appearing.

This week at Auspoll we thought it would be fascinating to test whether the recent run of technical problems which have plagued the Flying Kangaroo have made any tangible dent in our perception of the airline’s hitherto ‘safe as houses’ image. And it set the red light flashing.

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  • Ben says:

    10:00am | 01/02/11

    Germany is still outsourcing. It’s just because they are white that we don’t care. Also, forget that Asians (where less than 10% of Qantas maintenance is done) typically have a meticulous attitude of “let’s get every small detail right”, compared to a typical Australian attitude of “She’ll be right”, who… Read more »

  • Franko says:

    05:42pm | 04/12/10

    For the record. and LISTEN UP. ALL A380’s and all their major services are done BY GERMANS under contract. Qantas and all other airlines are NOT ALLOWED to do major service on A380s. ALSO THE PLANE THAT HAD THE PROBLE WAS SERVICED IN AVALON, VIC the day before. So stop… Read more »

 

Corporate public relations must be a pretty soul destroying way to make a living. You spend your time hoping that nothing bad happens and, when something bad happens, you hold a press conference saying nothing bad has happened. This is probably why company spin doctors get paid so much money.

Some smaller bits of the Qantas jet, that came apart from the bigger bits. Photo: AP

The other downside is that you have to resist the fundamental human instinct to speak your mind. Rather than cutting loose and declaring that the public is being hypocritical or hysterical in its attacks on your company, you have to adopt a muted and conciliatory tone to reassure people that their concerns, however irrational, are being taken seriously.

If you worked for Qantas right now the temptation would be to issue the following brief statement: “It looks like there was a bit of a bang and some small flames and that a few bits of the plane fell off. It turned around and landed fine. And, you know, no-one died. But because we’re so committed to safety, and have never had a crash, we’re grounding our six A380s anyway until we work out what went on. In the scheme of things it’s not really a major drama.”

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  • Patton31Teri says:

    01:51pm | 15/08/11

    Don’t you recognize that this is the best time to get the mortgage loans, which would help you. Read more »

  • Fiddlesticks says:

    05:21pm | 03/12/10

    In posting the Preliminary ATSB report released today, it is worth noting that 1. the damage summary, 2 posts above, has turned out to be quite accurate 2. the turbine disk fragment found on the ground (only about 1/3rd of the original disk) itself weighed over *70kg*. 3. the actions… Read more »

 

When Virgin Blue finally announced that John Borghetti would take the reins of the airline in May, the only question was why they took so long to arrive at this no-brainer.

The new Virgin Blue chief, former Qantas executive GM John Borghetti, at the launch of the A380 in 2008.

Virgin Blue’s search for a new chief executive has, for the past five or so months, been the same story written one hundred different ways. Borghetti, initially seen by pundits as the Cinderella for the discount carrier’s slipper, fell quickly out of contention in late 2009 after the Board seemed to keep the search rolling despite his availability. They kept us all off the scent with remarkable ease.

And why should anyone care? Well the company has never had a change of CEO since co-founder Brett Godfrey took the helm from the get-go in 2000. Despite ten years of very impressive growth, Virgin Blue has up to fairly recently been somewhat of a poor cousin to the far larger Qantas and lacking the ultra-cheap cost structure of Jetstar.

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  • Frequent Flyer says:

    03:33pm | 03/03/10

    Sounds like they both did take it like a man - they both went and got better jobs! Read more »

  • Harquebus says:

    12:44pm | 03/03/10

    Airlines are doomed. Only the wealthy of which, there will be a lot fewer, will be able to afford air travel. They all know that and are just milking dying cows. http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/feb/07/branson-warns-peak-oil-close http://countercurrents.org/mcpherson150210.htm Read more »

 

Last night The Punch took a flight from Canberra to Melbourne and settled in for a viewing of Qantas’ in-flight news bulletin provided by Channel Nine.

Police raid a Delta flight from Amsterdam to Detroit after a second Nigerian man got sick in the bathroom

Slowly recovering my obligatory takeoff fear of dying next to some guy in a Ralph Lauren t-shirt and blond tips in his hair, it occurred to me that the entire bulletin had not mentioned the biggest news story of the last few days: the failed terrorist attack aboard the Northwest Airlines flight to Detroit.

Absolutely nothing was reported in an almost half hour long broadcast about a failed terrorist attack aboard a passenger plane which a little group called Al-Qaeda have now claimed responsibility for. A story that still commanded high priority during their national news broadcasts that evening.

This wasn’t some shocking editorial oversight by a confused news editor, rather it’s very intentional Qantas policy not to inform it’s passengers of airline disaster related news stories.

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  • Steeve says:

    02:01pm | 02/01/10

    People use religion as a cover for all sorts of depraved stupidity to further their ends. Did it start with Mohammed? hell no,.. Look at what Titus did to the Jewish faith in AD70 or even Nero to the early christians a few years later… Violence in the guise of… Read more »

  • David says:

    10:19am | 02/01/10

    How can anyone argue that there is no religion-based intentions behind these terrorist groups? Look at the facts here people: The IRA is a Catholic organisation that was unwilling to let a Protestant minority run Ireland. The Taliban is a radical political arm of Islam. Nothing less. Saddam Hussein’s regime… Read more »

 

What is it about air travel that evokes in people such morbid fascination?

And if you could all just keep looking out the windows you'll notice the beautiful view of Sydney Harbour…

In his recent essay, A Week at the Airport, philosopher Alain de Botton reckoned that, basically, we’re all both petrified of, and obsessed by, air travel because our various religions have successfully instilled in us a prevailing awe of the skies, of the heavens and of whatever else goes on above the clouds:

“Despite its seeming mundanity, the ritual of flying remains indelibly linked, even in secular times, to the momentous themes of existence. We have heard about too many ascensions, too many voices from heaven, too many airborne angels and saints to ever be able to regard the business of flight from an entirely pedestrian perspective, as we might, say, the act of travelling by train.”

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  • J-boy says:

    01:36pm | 12/11/09

    Dan, the “stories” are similar, but the lessons learned from them and the concepts of Divinty are quite different in each. Read more »

  • Dan says:

    04:27am | 12/11/09

    Just to go a little off topic here but Judeo-Christian-Islam faiths are actually quite similar , many “bible” stories can be found in any of these faiths Read more »

 

Next week I’m headed to Japan for a two week break. I tell you this not because I think you have any particular interest in my holiday plans, but because I suspect I’m flying on the same Jetstar plane that had a blackout on the way back from Japan a couple of weeks ago.

Note to airlines: leave the airplane comedy to the Flying High team


For those who haven’t heard this story, the Herald-Sun reported today that a Jetstar plane had an instrument blackout during flight from Japan to the Gold Coast last week as it flew through storm clouds. The problems that affected the airspeed indicators on the Jestar Airbus 330-200 were similar to those reported by the Air France pilot of a similar 330-200 before the plane crashed into the Atlantic Ocean killing all on board.

No sooner had I finished reading this story with a mix of novelty (hey that’s my flight) and horror (oh my God that’s my flight) did I read about the stuff up on a Melbourne to Sydney QANTAS flight.

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  • Nick Dalton says:

    01:33pm | 12/11/09

    I had my Jetstar flight from the Gold Coast to Narita cancelled because of “issues” with the electrical equipment. End up on a flight from Brisbane to Cairns then Cains to Narita. It was totally worth it though, Japan is amazing. Enjoy your trip. I highly suggest Kyoto! Read more »

  • Old Bert says:

    06:30pm | 05/11/09

    Leo, I’m afraid you’ll have to take your chances on this trip, but don’t worry too much if you hear the pilot say, “ladies and gentlemen, if this is your first filght, welcome aboard, it’s mine too”. Read more »

 

We face a fight for survival.”
British Airways chief executive Willie Walsh last week.

(Qantas) faces many obstacles in surviving.”
Qantas chief executive Geoff Dixon in July 2003.

For an industry that depends on its ability to instill confidence in travelers, airlines sure spend a lot of time scaring their workers and shareholders witless.

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  • Ford says:

    11:49am | 23/06/09

    Puspa - the problem is that the airlines make their profits on business travel.  And business travellers are never going to start flying bogan class on Air Asia.  There will always be room for full service airlines.  I forsee a future of mass consolidations between the major airlines in the… Read more »

  • Puspa says:

    10:55am | 23/06/09

    Clive is correct in relation to the airlines operating the old full service model.i suspect that Thai,Malaysian Philippines Garuda etc in this region will go bankrupt or end up on permanent government life support.Meanwhile Air Asia Lion etc go from strength to strength.At last ordinary people are getting what they… Read more »

 

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