Pokies

Andrew Wilkie has okayed a lame version of the government’s pokies legislation, which he yesterday called a “stepping stone to meaningful reform in the future”.

Wilkie has been chasing clowns instead of ringmasters like TAB Sportsbet's Glenn Munsie. Pic: Cameron Richardson

The guts of the deal is that club ATMs will be able to spit out just $250 worth of pokie playmoney per day, and that pre-commitment to an amount you’re willing to lose will be optional rather than mandatory.

The legislation is now toothless on two fronts. Firstly, optional pre-commitment is like offering a drunk the choice of ejecting himself for obnoxiousness. And secondly, the legislation fails to address the burgeoning arena of sports gambling.

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  • Roddy Sexton says:

    11:48pm | 23/05/12

    It wont be long now until Wilkie is back in Tassie poking around in his rug shop. Read more »

  • Shannon says:

    09:33pm | 23/05/12

    Tom Slaughterhouse…..love it, and very appropriate Read more »

 

I really wanted to write about My Kitchen Rules this week, but it turns out there’s even more distasteful backstabbing, strategy and deluded egomania to be had in federal politics.

That's not a knife…

After 18 months of reassurances that our Foreign Minister is a happy little vegemite in a united ALP team, it now seems clear that Prime Minister Julia Gillard has been battling two formidable adversaries: TAbbs and KRudd.

I’ve got to admit, for months I thought the Labor leadership tussle was little more than Canberra commentators feeding off a limp carcass.

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  • Philosopher says:

    10:45am | 27/02/12

    Gillard has just won overwhelmingly 73-29 so some report.  They have sown the wind and will now reap the whirlwind.  Watch Qld now and watch the AU people tear labour apart at the next election. Ron Clark mayor of GC has just resigned and will contest Broadwater. It has only… Read more »

  • Philosopher says:

    09:13am | 27/02/12

    I was referring to the formation of the Liberals from the UAP with the majority labour dissidents from the Scullin Labour government.The Nationalist Party formed a large bulk but it was the Right Wing Labour Party leaders under Lyons and the cooperation with the Jack Lang leftists that brought down… Read more »

 

I was sorry to see Julia Gillard fall on Australia Day – it’s strangely unsettling to see an adult stumble, and never more so than when it’s a person of power.

Cartoon: Bill Leak

To my mind, though, a far more significant fall happened earlier in the week.

I understand the pragmatism behind Ms Gillard’s decision to dump her pokies reform deal with Independent MP Andrew Wilkie. She didn’t have the numbers in parliament to get mandatory pre-commitment legislation passed.

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  • Laila says:

    04:47pm | 07/02/12

    ‘President’ Barlow,‘We might not win’You got that part right!If you look calefulry, you outlined almost every reason the ALP/Greens are currently on the nose. Only you want to enforce, in stronger terms, the very cause of the PopOp’s anger with the ALP/Green policy making, and, to emphasise your determined bravado,… Read more »

  • RyaN says:

    12:08pm | 30/01/12

    And clearly you know everything, I mean recommending that people join a party that is only influenced by unions, 99% of the leaders come from unions who previously fell out of university into the union heavyweight roles because of a relative and claiming that they will be acknowledged let alone… Read more »

 

It takes a certain sort of rich self-regard to be in as deep a political hole as Labor MP Craig Thomson and yet still deliver your own leader a dud hand in a major newspaper. Perhaps the Member for Dobell has decided to go all-in as a final flutter (insert further tortured gambling metaphor here).

Cartoon: Peter Nicholson

His oped this morning in The Daily Telegraph essentially used praise of the Prime Minister’s dumping of the Wilkie deal on pokies to suggest her initial decision to commit to the plan had “flown in the face of proper policy making.”

Never mind Thomson’s precarious hold on his career is one of the reasons Julia Gillard felt compelled to woo disgruntled Coalition MP Peter Slipper into the Speaker’s Chair. And now that Wilkie has declared the PM dead to him, she’s back in the position of relying on Thomson not to buckle under the pressure of a range of disastrous accusations, thereby forcing a by-election. The situation is more complicated than a game of Mahjong.

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Father Chris Riley, founder of Youth Off The Streets, is under fire for attacking the proposed pokie reforms and siding with Clubs Australia; all while his charities pocket money from clubs. Here’s another perspective from a respected church leader.

About 2 million people will receive a pamphlet with Fr Chris Riley's message on it. Pic: Daily Telegraph

In the race for headlines and hysteria, the poker machine reform debate has fallen through the cracks of serious social progress. In their eagerness to beat back the Government’s agenda on poker machines, pushing their polished and focus tested ‘license to punt’ line, Big Clubs have churned out an astounding $20 million hoping to hit the jackpot.

Through my work with disadvantaged and discriminated Australians, I saw the implementation of poker machine reform as an opportunity to discuss the facts and impacts of problem gambling in Australia. Disappointingly, the lobbyists and ad agencies have had their way once again, turning an issue that destroys lives and families into yet another expensive political sideshow.

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  • Ianc says:

    01:28pm | 16/12/11

    Wonderful Subotic, in 3 or 4 posts you have evolved from an apologetic sociopath into a selfish fool. Read more »

  • shellshocked says:

    11:47am | 13/12/11

    As a person who’s who’s been affected by a pokie addict, there’s no point in telling an addict to get help from all the free agencies that subotic refers to because in their warped minds they dont think they have a problem! They have ‘reasons’ and ‘excuses’ for gambling, in… Read more »

 

Now our Melbourne Cup flutters are out of the way it is worth investigating how it became valid political logic that the healthy fabric of Australian life would be shredded without big-scale gambling.

One pokie palace so big it wants its own post code

Not on horses, but gambling on pokies. Not by once-a-year punters or leviathan professionals, by low-income earners who can suddenly find their rent has disappeared down the maw of a gaming machine.

The glorified role of pokies is a political creation and it is total rubbish.

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  • Jay says:

    09:34am | 07/11/11

    Let’s get a few facts straight. After 8 years of the disastrous Cain/Kirner Govt it was Labor that introduced the Pokies in Victoria.We had to sell of the State Bank, GIO,electricity, gas and water and slash nursing,police and teachers.Let’s not forget the Brumby Govts brilliant myki card debacle and let’s… Read more »

  • Pokie Madness says:

    04:24pm | 06/11/11

    To be honest if I could get pokies installed ANYWHERE to help raise revenue for a small local business I would. I live in a small rural town that gets little or no help from the local council much less the state of federal government.  This small town has an… Read more »

 

With the Queen having sprinkled her magic on our nation, and the sniff of the sport of kings in the air, a battle royal is fast brewing over pokies. On one side are Australia’s bunyip aristocracy and elite. Rich, powerful and masterfully connected, they are used to getting their way.

Keep the clubs but look after the people playing the pokies all day. Photo: Noel Kessel

On the other side, the very plebeian will of the majority - the common sense of the common people. This royal battle which would normally be settled behind closed doors is now public and transparent and will be a watershed test for our nation.

With James Packer and his thousands of Crown pokies emerging to join Channel Nine, the NRL, some AFL clubs and state governments - not to mention the $20 million advertising spend from hotels and clubs - the line up is complete. All the vested financial interests are singing from the same song sheet. Their chorus line is ‘this will not work and it is totally up to individual responsibility with some extra counselling thrown in’. Little wonder Tony Abbott chose to align himself with them.

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  • Unity against Exploitation says:

    12:55pm | 10/05/12

    Agreed!   We need our culture to be APPALLED at this type of exploitation!   We need our culture to ONLY visit pubs that do NOT have pokies!   We need to understand that our patronage encourages pubs to retain their pokies.   It is not up to Government.  … Read more »

  • The Bear says:

    09:10am | 23/04/12

    Gambling is a voluntary tax on the stupid. Read more »

 

Christmas is going to be awkward at the Swans’ this year.

The Swans go for a paddle near their local surf club. Pic: John Grainger

And it won’t be an inappropriate gift causing the tension and a possible barney.

It’ll be Labor’s mandatory pre-commitment policy for poker machines.

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  • Jennah says:

    02:24pm | 23/11/11

    Just cause it’s simple doesn’t mean it’s not super hlepful. Read more »

  • Cherie Gibbs says:

    01:18pm | 21/10/11

    Well said Ken, in a nutshell. Read more »

 

It is hard to believe the NRL, a code which galvanises communities in two of the largest states in Australia, could be staring at financial collapse because of the Gillard Government’s gambling reforms.

Me, I like pokies, there's a lot of games around. Photo: Herald Sun

It is hard to believe that the AFL, the national game which enjoys the status of a religion in four states and one territory, is also facing ruin because of the mandatory pre-commitment proposal to make gamblers think about how much they are prepared to wager on poker machines before placing a bet.

It is hard to believe because it is simply unbelievable. It is hard to believe because it is rubbish.

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  • Pat says:

    06:57am | 08/10/11

    Let’s not forget why ‘Pokies’ were first introduced.  It was not some great liberalising social gesture by some of the state governments to the people. It was pure and simple , to GENERATE more tax revenue for state government coffers. I suppose they did not realize the cancerous contagion they… Read more »

 

The Revesby Workers’ Club in Sydney’s far south-west used to do a lot for charities, pensioners and kids. It doesn’t anymore though, according to an article in the club’s latest quarterly magazine.

Previous NRL campaigns have been against good taste. Pic: Gary Graham

“The poker machine tax is crippling us”, the club’s secretary says in the article. “We can’t afford to help the community anymore. We’re a club and our first duty is to our members – we have to provide amenities for them. It’s a shame we can’t do both.”

Poker machine tax? Does that have anything to do with what NRL commentator Phil Gould was ranting about when the footy was on last Friday? Does it have something to do with that “footy tax” Eddie McGuire has been yapping about? Or whatever those WHO VOTED FOR A LICENCE TO PUNT? coasters at the club are all about? It sure sounds like it. But nope.

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  • Zopo says:

    02:12pm | 29/09/11

    the other week i went to the pub with some mates put in $50. Won about $600 put in another $50 lost it and left. It was just 3 mates innocently playing pokies. Not addicted or anything just enjoyed getting together and having a slap after having dinner at the… Read more »

  • Jade (the other one) says:

    05:55pm | 28/09/11

    Shane, the problem is that this rule punishes problem gamblers and the disinterested punter alike. To make the murder comparison valid, it would have to be that society punishes all members of a particular group because one chooses to murder someone. Society, in the case of murder and rape, punishes… Read more »

 

It’s not often a Government Minister admits to a fatal flaw in their policy, so I congratulate Jenny Macklin for her honesty.

Who else thinks he'd secretly love to play?

On Tuesday, while attacking clubs and the NRL because they are standing up to Labor’s mandatory pre-commitment policy, a policy that could destroy them, Ms Macklin revealed exactly why it will fail.

She wrote: “…before you sit down at the machine you nominate how much you’re willing to lose, set a limit you can afford – and then stick to it”.

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  • dmmaseoseoseo says:

    02:14pm | 13/12/11

    I introduced myself to cigs while I was 14 years old. It ended up the most unfortunate wrong move Ive made. Right now Im older and I have lung cancer. While attempting to give up smoking cigarettes, I heard about the smokeless cigarettes and will give it a try. With… Read more »

  • melle says:

    08:58pm | 07/07/11

    @Fiddler,  Agree completely.  Andrew Wilkie is not a person I would trust. Read more »

 

Like a lot of parents I have spent my fair share of cold and wintry days on the side of a football field.

Not an entirely natural fit but Steve Mortimer looks convinced. Photo: Pellegrini

I’m also a Victorian, so the shape of the football is a bit different, but the rite of passage – staffing the barbeque, cutting the oranges and sharing the thrills and spills – is a common experience for families across the country.

Game to game, season to season, drinking tea out of a thermos and hearing the coach’s gospel recited over the dinner table, the parents and the kids form a bond.

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  • Harquebus says:

    10:02am | 06/07/11

    It’s only after they are posted that I see my mistakes. Dunno why? Read more »

  • acotrel says:

    09:58pm | 05/07/11

    Motor sport no longer seeks or allows sponsorship/advertising from tobacco manufacturers! Read more »

 

After more than a decade in politics, I have sadly grown used to watching the often bizarre stances taken by other pollies and wondering why they are doing what they are doing.

Hoping for that pokies revenue to keep rolling in.

The response of some members of the Coalition to the poker machine issue is a case in point.

To truly understand the Coalition’s current position on pokies, you need to know it has nothing to do with pokies.

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  • Luke says:

    10:45pm | 05/06/11

    Your great at creating talk on pokies nick… I would just like to see you do somethng… instead of discussing ideals over and over and over and over… Read more »

  • pj says:

    10:49am | 01/05/11

    i agree,thatmosis..you don’t have to drink poison to know its poison! Read more »

 

It’s stating the obvious, but problem gamblers have a problem. They suffer from a horrible addiction – the same as alcoholics and druggies – that causes impulses they cannot resist and consequences that affect all those around them.

The rare Gillard-themed poker machine. Some say the cooked turkey is an analogy for both the government itself and its pokies policy.

Like all addicts, problem gamblers go to extreme lengths to get their fix. For 60 per cent, that involves committing a crime to get the cash to feed their habit.

A report by private corruption investigation group Warfield & Associates found poker machines were the most common way to gamble stolen money. The study found between 2008-10 a whopping $13 million was stolen to play the pokies.

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  • A concerned husband says:

    08:40am | 08/12/11

    No matter what you do, you will not stop an addict unless you take away every opportunity - pokies, racing etc. Once my wife steps into or gets near a hotel with pokies there is no restraining her and any attempt to take her away ends up in a fight.… Read more »

  • Barry from adelaide says:

    08:35am | 07/07/11

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Yesterday in The Punch, David Penberthy ridiculed the gambling industry’s claims that pokie-reform was un-Australian. But the $20m campaign by Australian Hotels Association and Clubs Australia campaign about the so-called “licence to punt” is more than just shallow and bankrupt politicking – it’s plainly misleading.

Looks like a fake to us! Pic: Justin Lloyd

There is NO proposal to have a licence to punt and those concerned about the damage poker machines do are not calling for a licence to punt.

The pre-commitment scheme currently under consideration applies only to poker machines (not punting more generally) and at its simplest is a basic consumer protection tool which will allow gamblers to pre-set a limit to how much they will spend.

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  • Jay says:

    11:47am | 18/04/11

    There are many people who unfortunately suffer from allergic reactions to meat, peanut butter, bread and whatever else there is. Should we ban all these substances? No. Playing Pokies is a choice. The geeks want to tell you about the reels etc etc good luck to them. At the end… Read more »

  • Tee Why says:

    11:41am | 16/04/11

    There is only one way to save those addicted to gambling and prevent those on the cusp of becoming addicted:                   Limit and slow down the amount they can put in. If you can only put in $1 at a time instead… Read more »

 

There is a punchy two-word response to claims from the sporting community about the multi-million dollar losses they will sustain if the Federal Government presses ahead with measures to tackle gambling addiction. Sucked in.

Non-stop good times. Photo: Graham Crouch

For sheer intellectual laziness and candid self-interest, documents don’t get much worse than the formal submission by the South Australian National Football League to the parliamentary inquiry on gaming reform.

Summarised, the SANFL argues that the measures to reduce problem gambling will cost the State’s football clubs $7 million a year. The document is framed around inertia in that it argues for the status quo, rejecting all measures such as compelling gamblers to register with clubs before they spend money on poker machines, and to specify how much money they want to spend if they choose to do so.

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  • Tim says:

    05:57pm | 15/09/11

    I just walked down to my local pub to get some money out to order a pizza, the lady in front of me was getting frustrated with the ATM, she turned around and had large bags under her eyes and then with a couple of $50’s in her hand she… Read more »

  • Bilby says:

    03:10pm | 14/02/11

    Mr Q - Each to their own I suppose. You guys have the raunchy ladies, we have the pokies. Come to think of it, so do you Read more »

 

Just when you thought that funnelling your hard earned cash into a soulless machine in the darkest reaches of a hotel couldn’t get anymore depressing, it turns out now your kids can watch.

Now a fun place for all the family. Picture: Brad Newman.

Disturbingly, The Pink Hill Hotel in Beaconsfield has been given permission to build a children’s playroom enclosed with soundproof glass so that parents can keep an eye on their children from the gaming room.  Fabulous! 

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  • Harquebus says:

    09:19pm | 31/07/10

    I doubt if the morons who are stupid enough to put money into those bandits would bother reading ThePunch. Poker machines should be banned outright. They support very few jobs. Years ago, I overheard a hotelier saying, “Little old ladies love these poker machines and we love the little old… Read more »

  • Ryan says:

    08:37pm | 31/07/10

    Well you can’t take your kid to the local park to fly their kite but you CAN take them down to the local club to throw away their weeks food money on a pokie.. There are enough laws and bans in Australia that merely making your way to work would… Read more »

 

My first reaction to James Packer’s claims that casinos contribute positively to the community was, ‘Spoken like a true billionaire’.

James Packer outside Crown Casion yesterday. Photo: Stuart Mccevoy

The comments seemed as removed from reality as James’ fortune allows him to be.

Specifically James told the Crown AGM:” Next time you read an unbalanced story about…casinos and their impact on the community, stop and think about the other side of the story.” And that story as James tells it seems to be a work of fiction.

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  • Luke says:

    10:47pm | 05/06/11

    Of course he should stay out of anything to do with pokies… He makes money out of it! HOW DARE HE? Read more »

  • Martin says:

    06:31pm | 06/01/10

    David Icke would no doubt be convinced the Packers are “Reptilians”, have you seen the on-line Pokie game called “Goanna Gold”, apparently named in honour of the late Kerry Packer? The Crown Casino Pokies are an absolute rip-off! They’re worse than the suburban clubs, you’d be lucky to get back… Read more »

 

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