Poker Machines

Those in the business of applying the defibrillators to Julia Gillard’s prime ministership have been quick to talk up her grace and decency during the tent embassy mayhem, while also pointing an accusatory finger at Tony Abbott for inciting the chaos.

Apparently her 2012 plan is to come out with all guns blazing. Pic: Getty Images.

Whatever sympathy Gillard may have received after her frightening ordeal will now be undermined by the resignation late Friday of a junior staffer who had stupidly worded up the protesters as to Abbott’s whereabouts. Nevertheless the PM clearly handled herself with courage and compassion.

The footage revealing her asking the security service to ensure Abbott would also be safely escorted from the restaurant was a credit to her. She didn’t know she was on camera, and there was nothing confected about her concern. Laudable, too, was her comment later that day that her only regret was the violence had disrupted an event recognising the courage of emergency services crews. At a more human level, Gillard simply looked terrified as she was rushed from the building. Only the most jaundiced critic would have felt for her as she was dragged to safety.

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  • Ben says:

    10:26pm | 07/02/12

    @RussellI have been wdinerong the same thing. It seems that it’s all Gillard all the time. I’m not sure why this is? Are the others keeping a low profile or just not able to get any coverage? Maybe Gillard is more comfortable negotiating in the back rooms and this has… Read more »

  • Bruno says:

    12:57pm | 31/01/12

    Frightening ideal? - penbo mate, our PM should never be frightened. She’s our leader not some poor bag-snatch victim. Read more »

 

Everyone’s talking about poker machines these days. Our politicians and our newspapers, our clubs and pubs; everyone has an opinion on what we should and shouldn’t do with regards to the pokies. But they’re talking about numbers and policies, votes and strategies and campaigns.

Illustration: Warren Brown

They’re not talking about the people who have been hurt, who are hurting still. People like me.

When I was 24 years old, I had the world on a string. Life was mine for the taking. I was engaged to be married and surrounded by fantastic friends; I had my university degree framed on the wall, a great job and excellent prospects. But by the time I turned 25, life as I knew it was over. I was addicted to poker machines.

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  • Your name:Pat says:

    05:48pm | 23/01/12

    Your comment:Allan J   ” Mental illness, of which gambling addiction is just one manifestation, is talked about much more freely these days and is seeing increases in government funding.” Alan, Do you now want to guess where Mental Heath Foundation (Vic) a tax free entity that gets Govenment fund… Read more »

  • Sick of the BS says:

    11:20pm | 19/01/12

    Bitten: Im well aware of the fact pot,speed et all are “illegal”,why are they “illegal”? Because the government claims they are too damaging to society. Well im 100% sure gambling,especially poker machines,are far from doing society any good so why shouldnt the government limit peoples use of them? They limit… Read more »

 

Tony Abbott described the events in Canberra yesterday surrounding the speakership of the Parliament as a bad day for democracy. Abbott was right, but for the wrong reasons.

Long to reign over us. Photo: Supplied

The most undemocratic outcome of yesterday’s events could now be that a reform aimed at making life more bearable for problem gamblers, which is supported by a majority of Australians, will now be dumped because Labor has the numbers in the house to get away with pulling it, thus avoiding a fight to the death with powerful gambling interests.

Labor might have been cock-a-hoop at yesterday’s developments but the people who will be even happier are the cashed-up, morally ambivalent multi-millionaires in the gaming industry, who have been escalating their self-interested campaign to knock off suburban Labor MPs lest the Government support the proposed pokie reforms.

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  • Tom says:

    01:17pm | 28/11/11

    Rick of the Dustbowl, sorry fella, huge difference between being robbed against some idiot dropping his worldly riches into a pokie. Read more »

  • Tom says:

    12:43pm | 28/11/11

    Solomon, congratulations for the most blinkered piece of legalistic sophistry and rationalisation of bastardry ever seen in a blog site. Read more »

 

It’s clear from his Punch article that Reverend Tim Costello hasn’t bothered to speak to manufacturers, the industry, or even read the Productivity Commission report before making his claims about mandatory pre-commitment.

As you can clearly see, pokies greatly enhance the social fabric. Pic: Mark Williams

In fact based on his claims, I doubt he’d be able to identify a pokie in a police line-up.

We get it Tim. You hate pokies. So much so that you rejected the $500,000 donation club members tried to give World Vision after the Boxing Day Tsunami. Fortunately CARE Australia and Father Chris Riley’s Youth off the Streets had no issue accepting the eventual $3 million.

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  • Barry says:

    02:18pm | 12/11/11

    Here in Castlemaine, Vic, a “not for profit club” based in another town (Maryborough, Vic) is looking to force 65 more pokier machines onto Castlemaine under the pretence of “helping the community” where all “profits will be returned to the community”. What crap - they are offering only $50,000 cash… Read more »

  • Libby Mitchell says:

    09:58am | 12/11/11

    Clubs have destroyed the trust we had in their integrity..before pokies came along. Under glitzy ‘do good’ banners that clubs hope they can still project, many supposedly caring club managers are now earning the best wages they have ever been able to earn, I bet. I also would suggest that… Read more »

 

Now our Melbourne Cup flutters are out of the way it is worth investigating how it became valid political logic that the healthy fabric of Australian life would be shredded without big-scale gambling.

One pokie palace so big it wants its own post code

Not on horses, but gambling on pokies. Not by once-a-year punters or leviathan professionals, by low-income earners who can suddenly find their rent has disappeared down the maw of a gaming machine.

The glorified role of pokies is a political creation and it is total rubbish.

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  • Jay says:

    10:34am | 07/11/11

    Let’s get a few facts straight. After 8 years of the disastrous Cain/Kirner Govt it was Labor that introduced the Pokies in Victoria.We had to sell of the State Bank, GIO,electricity, gas and water and slash nursing,police and teachers.Let’s not forget the Brumby Govts brilliant myki card debacle and let’s… Read more »

  • Pokie Madness says:

    05:24pm | 06/11/11

    To be honest if I could get pokies installed ANYWHERE to help raise revenue for a small local business I would. I live in a small rural town that gets little or no help from the local council much less the state of federal government.  This small town has an… Read more »

 

Gambling is a serious social problem with horrendous consequences for the vulnerable. I grew up in suburban Brisbane and my most vivid childhood memory of my step father is when he violently ransacked my brother’s school bag for $1.50 and said, “F—k Dean, he can go without.”

Think of the children, Marge

He took the boy’s lunch money, slammed the door, and went down to the TAB to place a bet on another horse destined to lose. I’ve never looked at the man the same way since.

Such is the addictive power of gambling that a father would rather see his own son go hungry so he can satisfy his hunger to gamble. Gambling addiction is a disease. It consumes, controls, and destroys. It’s a monster. I know because I’ve seen it. In the long-running sitcom, The Simpsons, Homer Simpson even gave a name to the addictive power of gambling when Marge got hooked on the pokies at George Burns’ casino. He called it “Gamblor”.

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  • Damien C says:

    12:03pm | 26/10/11

    I like the Gamblor image. I think putting a couple of bucks on a nag or into a poker machine is fun, but have come to the point of not wanting anything to do with this industry. People can blame people and get on self righteous soapboxes about personal responsibility,… Read more »

  • Jesse says:

    03:57pm | 24/10/11

    I see the reality of this in our states prisons on a daily basis. Far too many ‘deniers’ of gambling addiction fail to fully grasp the power of addiction - of all types- and the devestating effects it has on individuals and families. We as a society pay a huge… Read more »

 

As Australian Parliamentarians consider their voting positions on poker machine mandatory pre-commitment technologies, the impact on gambling on society, and a sensible and evidence based approach to fix the downsides to gambling, it’s important to consider what regulating this leisure activity will mean to inbound tourism over the next decade and beyond.

Gotta love those bright lights. Picture: Herald Sun 

To maintain international competitiveness, many Australian casinos have been actively investing in new tourism infrastructure and upgrading existing properties. The total capital expenditure program across Australian casinos exceeds AU$4.4 billion with impressive upgrades to Crown Melbourne and Burswood in Perth, The Star in Sydney, and SKYCITY in Darwin amongst others.

Over the same time, there has been increasing competition from Asia, most notably in the emergence of ‘integrated resorts’ that offer unprecedented opportunities to grow international tourism.  Singapore has overseen the construction of two integrated casino resorts at a combined cost of around AU$12 billion. 

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  • Adam J says:

    07:13pm | 07/10/11

    Take a walk through any Aussie casinos and you’ll mix with inbound tourists.  Certainly the whales are in the high roller rooms, but they’re not the people this article is referring to. Read more »

  • Adam J says:

    05:51pm | 07/10/11

    Ok, Peter, the complexity lies in having people apply for a card to activate machines in the first place, trying to avoid the problem that has arisen in Norway where problem gamblers apply for multiple cards, and creating a system to issue inbound tourists with no gambling limits for starters.… Read more »

 

After more than a decade in politics, I have sadly grown used to watching the often bizarre stances taken by other pollies and wondering why they are doing what they are doing.

Hoping for that pokies revenue to keep rolling in.

The response of some members of the Coalition to the poker machine issue is a case in point.

To truly understand the Coalition’s current position on pokies, you need to know it has nothing to do with pokies.

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  • Luke says:

    11:45pm | 05/06/11

    Your great at creating talk on pokies nick… I would just like to see you do somethng… instead of discussing ideals over and over and over and over… Read more »

  • pj says:

    11:49am | 01/05/11

    i agree,thatmosis..you don’t have to drink poison to know its poison! Read more »

 

It’s stating the obvious, but problem gamblers have a problem. They suffer from a horrible addiction – the same as alcoholics and druggies – that causes impulses they cannot resist and consequences that affect all those around them.

The rare Gillard-themed poker machine. Some say the cooked turkey is an analogy for both the government itself and its pokies policy.

Like all addicts, problem gamblers go to extreme lengths to get their fix. For 60 per cent, that involves committing a crime to get the cash to feed their habit.

A report by private corruption investigation group Warfield & Associates found poker machines were the most common way to gamble stolen money. The study found between 2008-10 a whopping $13 million was stolen to play the pokies.

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  • A concerned husband says:

    09:40am | 08/12/11

    No matter what you do, you will not stop an addict unless you take away every opportunity - pokies, racing etc. Once my wife steps into or gets near a hotel with pokies there is no restraining her and any attempt to take her away ends up in a fight.… Read more »

  • Barry from adelaide says:

    09:35am | 07/07/11

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Yesterday in The Punch, David Penberthy ridiculed the gambling industry’s claims that pokie-reform was un-Australian. But the $20m campaign by Australian Hotels Association and Clubs Australia campaign about the so-called “licence to punt” is more than just shallow and bankrupt politicking – it’s plainly misleading.

Looks like a fake to us! Pic: Justin Lloyd

There is NO proposal to have a licence to punt and those concerned about the damage poker machines do are not calling for a licence to punt.

The pre-commitment scheme currently under consideration applies only to poker machines (not punting more generally) and at its simplest is a basic consumer protection tool which will allow gamblers to pre-set a limit to how much they will spend.

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  • Jay says:

    12:47pm | 18/04/11

    There are many people who unfortunately suffer from allergic reactions to meat, peanut butter, bread and whatever else there is. Should we ban all these substances? No. Playing Pokies is a choice. The geeks want to tell you about the reels etc etc good luck to them. At the end… Read more »

  • Tee Why says:

    12:41pm | 16/04/11

    There is only one way to save those addicted to gambling and prevent those on the cusp of becoming addicted:                   Limit and slow down the amount they can put in. If you can only put in $1 at a time instead… Read more »

 

There is a punchy two-word response to claims from the sporting community about the multi-million dollar losses they will sustain if the Federal Government presses ahead with measures to tackle gambling addiction. Sucked in.

Non-stop good times. Photo: Graham Crouch

For sheer intellectual laziness and candid self-interest, documents don’t get much worse than the formal submission by the South Australian National Football League to the parliamentary inquiry on gaming reform.

Summarised, the SANFL argues that the measures to reduce problem gambling will cost the State’s football clubs $7 million a year. The document is framed around inertia in that it argues for the status quo, rejecting all measures such as compelling gamblers to register with clubs before they spend money on poker machines, and to specify how much money they want to spend if they choose to do so.

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  • Tim says:

    06:57pm | 15/09/11

    I just walked down to my local pub to get some money out to order a pizza, the lady in front of me was getting frustrated with the ATM, she turned around and had large bags under her eyes and then with a couple of $50’s in her hand she… Read more »

  • Bilby says:

    04:10pm | 14/02/11

    Mr Q - Each to their own I suppose. You guys have the raunchy ladies, we have the pokies. Come to think of it, so do you Read more »

 

Now that the Cup’s behind us and Shocking has won it, let’s get serious about addressing the massive gap in our national dialogue on gambling. It’s that gap that’s referred to in the title of this piece.

2009 Melbourne Cup winner Shocking

Punch deputy editor Tory Maguire wrote a great piece recently on the scourge of the pokies. In it, she summarised some of the measures proposed to combat that electronic plague. But where is the same debate about racing?

The Melbourne Cup is a great national event. I’ve written about it in glowing, enthusiastic terms twice on this website this week, and countless times elsewhere. I once even argued that Cup Day should be our National Day. Everybody, sing with me: Horse Trainers all let us rejoice…

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  • Jack says:

    03:10pm | 04/11/09

    Dear Anthony, As someone who holds degrees in commerce and finance, a masters of applied finance and works with money and applied statistics all day, I am clearly unqualified to decide whether or not to buy a scratch ticket or play some poker at home. Thankyou for protecting me from… Read more »

  • Nick says:

    10:52am | 04/11/09

    Likening betting on racing to gambling on poker machines is a false analogy. On the poker machine the player has no choice about anything the machine does other than decide how much to put in and how many reels to play. On the other hand, the racing investor can decide… Read more »

 

Towards the end of the recent 4Corners report on James Packer’s gambling fortunes former PBL director Geoff Cousins gave his assessment of the casino game.

Not productive, not creating anything, just a hole to shove your money in

“They’re frankly just a horrible business,” Cousins said. “They live off the misfortunes of others and they are a completely non productive business. They don’t create anything, they just take people’s money and shove it down a hole and now and again if they’re forced to, they give a tiny bit of it back.”

It was an excellent summation that could equally be applied to the casino’s little brother: poker machines.

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  • Insider says:

    10:55pm | 22/10/09

    Interesting that there seems to be no mention in the productivity Report referring to the link between smoking and poker machine performance. The only restirction in the last 10 years that has had a significant effect on gaming revenue has been the implementation of smoking bans. Yet the NSW government… Read more »

  • SM says:

    04:02pm | 22/10/09

    AJ, not sure what you’re reading, but the only “stat” I cited was this: “From my experience, the proportion of poker machine players whose gambling has a significantly adverse effect on their lifestyles is much, much more than 10% or 15%” Note the opening 3 words of my “stat” AJ Read more »

 

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