Petrol

Here we go again. Another festive season and yet another petrol rip off!

A ridiculously unaffordable scenario

Now for some of us there’s nothing new in that - we have simply got used to being ripped off. For the free market theorists and other apologists for the big oil companies and major petrol retailers, like Coles and Woolworths, they like the fact that petrol margins have been growing even if it has been at the expense of motorists.

It’s easy for the free market theorists to turn a blind eye to motorists being gouged as some of the free market theorists may be shareholders of the big petrol retailers or may even earn big dollars advising them. They may even have a company or taxpayer funded petrol card. There’s nothing like a vested interest to cloud a person’s economic frame of mind.

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  • NigelC says:

    03:26pm | 06/01/12

    The logic may seem a bit skewed but it is similar to gold versus silver. Gold is more desireable (better) than silver so its price is greater. In this case more people want sweet, light crude than heavy sour crude so its price is greater. In reality light crude is… Read more »

  • amistead says:

    01:18pm | 05/01/12

    Ryan Nothing, it was defeated by the opposition. Check out how it would have worked and does work in WA by referencing Badgers link. You can save big dollars with this tool. example; petrol in North Perth 131.5 at one station and 148.5 at another station i North Perth. If… Read more »

 

Have you ever driven around regional Australia and found large discrepancies in the petrol prices at different regional centres? Do you ever wonder why petrol prices are different in different suburbs? And have you ever been annoyed that the price of the same item may be different at different Coles or Woolworths supermarkets in the same neighbourhood?

Even this far out you can't escape the greedy petrol kings. Photo:Road LessTravelled

Well, what you’re witnessing is the practice of geographic price discrimination. It’s common among our major supermarket chains and oil companies. At its simplest, geographic price discrimination means that consumers in some areas are paying a higher price for the same item than they would otherwise have paid elsewhere.

There are plenty of examples of geographic price discrimination. Petrol pricing is a well known example. Those who live in the city see it every day when they drive to work, school or the shops. Petrol prices will vary from suburb to suburb with the same petrol retailer charging a different price for the same petrol at their different outlets.

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  • Sam says:

    10:25am | 09/12/11

    Clearly we need to get rid of racist tools like this fool and we will all have more Read more »

  • Sam says:

    10:22am | 09/12/11

    @paul m Aboriginals laugh at your type of ignorance, who would want to be like you, whites can live in each others shit, the most sucessful mammal colinisers are rodents, no wonder the citys smell like a rat cage, so called civilisation my ass, no wonder you lot had diseases… Read more »

 

With the debate raging about the carbon tax and whether the initial carbon price of $23 will lead to any meaningful reductions in greenhouse tax emissions, a new front has opened up in the debate concerning the real possibility that businesses will use the carbon tax as an excuse to price gouge.

Did everyone's mum take a wrong turn or is this carbon in practice? Photo: Kym Smith

Price gouging is already a problem in such areas as petrol, airport parking and even groceries. The petrol rip off is now ongoing in many regional areas and even in the city average petrol prices do not come down as quickly as they should when there are falls in the Singapore benchmark price used to calculate local prices.

Airport parking rates keep going up and visitors to major airports are held hostage to the monopoly power of the airport owners who get nasty with parking infringements if you dare to pick up a loved one from the “wrong” area.

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  • The Badger says:

    03:23pm | 21/07/11

    The real question is: When we allow gas companies to tap the reserves within our jurisdiction, why does the deal not include cheap supply of gas to our utility companies. I can think of no better way for All west Australians including SME’s to benefit from our natural resources. And… Read more »

  • SME Owner of Bunbury says:

    02:23am | 21/07/11

    In WA, Verve Energy makes 96 million a year of which 40 million is passed back to the state govt regardless of their creed. WA is also heavily reliant on coal fired electricity like it or not. Early estimates quote that the carbon tax will effect Verve to the tune… Read more »

 

Are you sick of being ripped off at the petrol pump? Are you annoyed that despite ample oil supplies on the market to meet current demand the speculators persist in trying to push up world oil prices?  And don’t forget that the Singapore benchmark for refined petrol used to calculate local petrol prices remains one of the highest in the world.

Not quite there yet. Photo: AP


A rip off is a rip off. The fact is that despite consistently being an inflated benchmark the Singapore benchmark for unleaded petrol has fallen dramatically since May 6. Despite valiant efforts by the speculators to try and prop up world oil prices, the Singapore benchmark price has fallen signifcantly.

As the Singapore benchmark price falls so should the local wholesale and retail petrol prices. The problem is that falls take forever to be passed through to motorists at the pump. We are given the usual “reasons” for the time lag. We are told that it takes time for the oil companies and major retailers to clear out old stock bought at the old, higher price.

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  • Harquebus says:

    10:26pm | 06/07/11

    Wolf, go to the top of the class. Suburbs and cities both have evolved around the car. Read more »

  • Harquebus says:

    10:24pm | 06/07/11

    My car was sacrificed a couple of years ago. Didn’t do any good. I’m back where I was except, minus a car. The internet is the only sacrifice I have left. Some folks will be pleased to hear that, soon I won’t be able to afford that either. I hope… Read more »

 

Are you fed up with costly political gimmicks by the Federal Government? Well, you should be as those gimmicks are costing you, the taxpayer, lots of money. We all know about the money wasted on Fuelwatch and GroceryChoice. While those debacles are long gone, they are not forgotten and serve as a constant reminder of how taxpayers’ money can be easily wasted.

Cartoon: Chris Taylor

That’s why we need to be vigilant to ensure that the Government doesn’t waste any more of your taxpayer money. Now there is one ongoing waste of money and that relates to the so-called Office of the Petrol Commissioner. Here we have a Petrol Commissioner at the ACCC that “watches” petrol prices.

You probably wouldn’t know, and perhaps don’t even care that we have actually had two different ACCC Petrol Commissioners appointed. The first left quickly, and the second one, Joe Dimasi, had been a long time ACCC staffer who was up-sized to a Commissioner title, with all the added costs to the taxpayer that a Commissioner title brings with it.

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  • LC says:

    03:03pm | 14/11/11

    Seeing as the study was done last year, it cab be pretty safely assumed they took the economic rise of China and India into consideration. Read more »

  • ZSRenn says:

    05:16am | 09/06/11

    Ah Actrol still living in the first half of the 20th century. Been a long time between drinks fella. I would like to see you put some spin on how these were part of Julias works as well. That would at least make your comment funny and not so damn… Read more »

 

Do you know that we have an ACCC Petrol Commissioner? If so, do you know the person’s name and what he does?

Man with a badge is watching this for you. Picture: Troy Bendeich.

Why are these questions important? Well, simply because you as taxpayers should know that the Federal Government is using your money to employ a person who was, according to the Federal Treasurer Wayne Swan, going to be your “Petrol cop on the beat.”

When we talk of “cops on the beat” we tend to think of high visibility, deterrence and powers of arrest. On each of these criteria you need to wonder how the so-called “Petrol cop on the beat” rates?

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  • Harquebus says:

    02:40am | 05/08/10

    Soon there will be no need for a Petrol Commissioner. Fuel prices are going up and nowhere else. Read more »

  • TimB says:

    11:37pm | 04/08/10

    Twags: $10,000. That’s 5 figures, no decimal point. We can therefore assume that your income is less than this? Or is it simply that you can’t count? Read more »

 

With petrol prices on the rise again and a federal election fast approaching, the Federal Government is scrambling to get some runs on the board. After the Fuelwatch debacle and with the first ACCC Petrol Commissioner having resigned very quickly, the Government’s tough talk on petrol prices has remained just talk.

Go on, make us pay. Photo: AFP

So why does the Federal Government continue to fumble the ball so badly on petrol prices? Well, quite simply because of their continued failure to tackle the underlining problems. These problems are far reaching and together they ensure that the oil companies and Coles and Woolworths maintain and extend their stranglehold of over the petrol industry.

In fact, the Federal Government’s repeated failure to tackle the dominance of the oil companies and Coles and Woolworths lies at heart of their failure to deliver on their election promise to put downward pressure on petrol prices. Like their promise to do the same for grocery prices, the petrol promise has delivered nothing for motorists.

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  • Tom says:

    09:10pm | 28/04/10

    The more expensive petrol is, the less people will drive, and hence the less traffic there will be for those such as myself who enjoy a nice Sunday drive, and are willing to pay for the privilege. Read more »

  • Richard Tuffin says:

    08:39pm | 28/04/10

    Here’s a simple solution… If a Shell (Coles) or Caltex (Woolies) servo is in an area, the Government should simply legislate that the next servo built in closest proximity has to be a Mobil or Independent servo. Near where I live, we have a Mobil Servo and a Caltex Servo… Read more »

 

As we enter an election year it’s opportune to reflect on the Federal Government’s track record on petrol issues. In doing so, it will become very obvious that the Federal Government, like the previous government, has been fumbling the ball very badly on petrol issues and motorists are paying the price.

If only: Mark Knight in The Herald Sun

Let’s start when the Labor party was in opposition.

Grand promises were made and expectations raised amongst the voters that Labor was different to the then Coalition Government. Kevin Rudd, Wayne Swan and Chris Bowen promised us a “tough petrol cop on the beat.” Great, you may have thought! The only thing is that we already supposedly had a “competition cop” on the beat. It’s called the ACCC.

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  • Interesting view says:

    12:07pm | 21/01/10

    There is an error mate. Its should be every 5 to 10 SECONDS another 3 tonnes is used by one single plane rather than minutes Considering that at any given time there are on average 1,250 737s in the air.  Add that to the rest of the aviation industry worldwide… Read more »

  • TB says:

    11:56pm | 20/01/10

    The point I was trying to make (in a somewhat hyperbolic fashion) was that you need to take a look at the big picture when it comes to oil - it is a limited resource, the consumption of which is on the verge of (if not already) exploding, and yet… Read more »

 

With the 4 major banks pushing up interest rates at will and the Federal Treasurer, Wayne Swan, looking increasingly impotent when trying to bring them into line, it’s clear that competition in the banking sector is being killed off quickly and dramatically to the detriment of struggling Australian families.

The Herald-Sun's Mark Knight

So, what’s killing off competition in the banking sector?

Well, the answer is the same as to what’s killing off competition in groceries, liquor and petrol; just to name a few.

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  • Irene says:

    01:22pm | 05/11/10

    Its not just the owners of home loans and such that feel powerless in regards to the banks. I don’t have any loans but I am still forced to deal with banks! Bring back wages payed in cash, I am happy to keep my cash out of the banks. At… Read more »

  • John says:

    09:08am | 07/12/09

    If you look around and do not get hung up on “Brand Power” you can still find successful smaller operators such as Aldi’s as well as well run independent fruit markets, butchers and delicatessens.  The Government cannot interfere with successful businesses.  ABC Learning brought about its own destruction with poor… Read more »

 

Have you ever wondered why Coles Express petrol stations in adjoining suburbs have different prices for unleaded petrol?

Sometimes leafy equals cheap. Affluent suburbs quite often get lower-priced petrol.

Ever wondered why Woolworths petrol stations have different prices for unleaded across a metropolitan area?

In Sydney, for example, motorists can, on some days of the week, buy unleaded petrol on the lower North Shore cheaper than can motorists in some western suburbs.

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  • Iva Tarbell says:

    10:25pm | 16/09/09

    The Professor should be appalled for exposing this anti-competitive practice by Woolworths/Coles and the oil company’s that’s driving up prices and ripping off consumers. It’s about time someone put the spot light on this evil practice. Until Geographic Price Discrimination is outlawed in Australia, working families will continue to pay… Read more »

  • P.A. says:

    04:56pm | 16/09/09

    If Telstra is such a danger with it’s. Monopoly. Then why the bloody hell aren’t Coles, Woolworths and the oil companies a danger. Note to ACCC!!! take off your bloody blinkers and open your bloody eye’s…. It couldn’t be more obvious.. Read more »

 

Have you ever thought that you were being taken for a ride on petrol prices? Well, you have!

People joyously lining up to getting royally screwed

So how are you being ripped off? It’s simple really – once, of course, you know the games that can be played by the big oil companies and Coles and Woolworths.

Let’s begin at the retail level.

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  • peter austin says:

    02:27pm | 17/03/11

    it does not matter what the price of oil is or who sells it fuel is the goverment of the days gravey train thats the bottom line so we can waffle all we like nothing will ever change the present system Read more »

  • jason bingley says:

    07:23pm | 26/08/10

    lets just hope with the ridiculous rigged election(2010)that the independants try and stick up for all.it takes 12 hours to count 97% of the votes then up to 2 weeks for the rest ,WHAT A SCAM.my mail takes 1 maybe 2days to come through. Read more »

 

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