Petrol Prices

So the ACCC announced last week an inquiry into the sharing of petrol pricing information by the oil companies, and Coles and Woolworths.


Are we to be excited? Well, the motoring bodies came out and welcomed the announcement. A good thing you might say. The only problem is that their reaction is predictable. Sadly, the work of the motoring bodies in exposing the petrol industry games has been very patchy, which has let their members down very badly.

Some motoring bodies are consistently very good in going after the petrol industry games while others have been weak preferring to make motherhood statements rather than getting to the heart of the issue. The problem with the motoring bodies is quite simply that some of them are passionate advocates for motorists while others act more like those politicians who try to be everyone’s friend.

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  • David says:

    04:20pm | 09/05/12

    Darren, the problem with those old campaigns was that they only lasted a day or two. If the campaign lasted a month or two the pressure would be on the petrol companies to play ball or watch their stations collect cobwebs whilst their opponents booms. The motoring orgs have plenty… Read more »

  • Franko says:

    04:13pm | 09/05/12

    Because the multi-nationals oil giants can, then they make this a stupid excuse. I think 15-20% of our *REFINED* petrol came imported from Singapore by the same people why buy it off, so Singapore affects our price *somewhat* but the oil companies made an excuse out of this. Why is… Read more »

 

Have you ever been to Alice Springs? Well, if you have you will know that the Alice is the heart of Australia in more ways than one. If you haven’t, then you should join the thousands of overseas visitors who regularly flock to the Alice.

Petrol is so expensive in The Alice, it makes more sense to get around on these. Pic: Angelo Soulas.

You will be in awe of many things in the Alice, especially when you see how a community in the middle of Australia can, in so many ways, be a microcosm of our country.

The Alice has all the great personalities you get in the big cities. There are the talk show presenters at Radio 8HA like Adrian Renzi, or “Renz” to his friends, who are great at expressing the public indignation on issues of importance to the local community. There is, of course, the local ABC Radio Station where presenters like Breakfast Show host, Stewart Brash, start the locals thinking about the day’s big issues.

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  • PW says:

    03:53pm | 28/03/12

    I wish there was an endless supply of the stuff down there. But there’s not. I haven’t seen anyone anywhere argue that oil is a limitless resource. While denial might seem like an attractive alternative, it will only make the reality harsher when it does come. Preparation is needed, one… Read more »

  • youdy beaudy says:

    03:14pm | 28/03/12

    @ no more gillard.When Keating got out petrol was about 75c per litre from memory. When Howard got out it was $ 1.30 per litre. So, that’s a big increase and under howards watch. Can’t blame everything on Gillard and Co. Naughty, Naughty.!! Read more »

 

The everyday driver, stranded by a lack of functional alternatives, is being forced to pay over the odds for the right to put a vehicle on the road.

And that's before you get to the lolly counter

And there is no relief in sight, either as a tax cut or a greater return in the form of increased road funding.

The first whack is in ever-climbing vehicle registration fees from state government; the second is from an unrelenting fuel excise which the Federal Government would love to increase but can’t.

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  • Max W. says:

    05:00pm | 21/03/12

    if the governments both federal and state spent 100% of the fuel tax on roads we would have safe roads like they have in Europe with unlimited speed limits. Bring on more tax but only if 100% goes to the roads. Read more »

  • jet says:

    12:43pm | 19/03/12

    most people don’t ‘need’ to drive, they just do it because they are too lazy to change their habits. I know of quite a few people in my office that live within 10km of the city and have great cycle paths they could use to get into work - but… Read more »

 

Here we go again. Another festive season and yet another petrol rip off!

A ridiculously unaffordable scenario

Now for some of us there’s nothing new in that - we have simply got used to being ripped off. For the free market theorists and other apologists for the big oil companies and major petrol retailers, like Coles and Woolworths, they like the fact that petrol margins have been growing even if it has been at the expense of motorists.

It’s easy for the free market theorists to turn a blind eye to motorists being gouged as some of the free market theorists may be shareholders of the big petrol retailers or may even earn big dollars advising them. They may even have a company or taxpayer funded petrol card. There’s nothing like a vested interest to cloud a person’s economic frame of mind.

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  • LC says:

    08:09pm | 06/03/12

    No water isn’t free from any tap. You’re billed for it at home, and your rates pay for water from public drinking fountains. Read more »

  • NigelC says:

    02:26pm | 06/01/12

    The logic may seem a bit skewed but it is similar to gold versus silver. Gold is more desireable (better) than silver so its price is greater. In this case more people want sweet, light crude than heavy sour crude so its price is greater. In reality light crude is… Read more »

 

Are you getting better at distinguishing between political spin and substance? You probably are given the growing number of Federal Government examples!

In the animal kingdom, spin is fine. In the human realm, it's a poor substitute for substance. Pic: AP.

How can you distinguish between spin and substance? Well, it’s fairly simple when you can spot the obvious signs.

First up, you have the grandiose statement. Some examples include: “we are going to have a tough petrol cop on the beat, ensuring that motorists are not paying a cent more than they have to at the bowser”, “the greatest moral challenge” and “building the education revolution”.

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  • Harold May says:

    01:38pm | 24/04/12

    http://www.nylawyer.net Trust in political leaders is at an all time low after various world financial crises were mainly caused by poor decision making by them. It can be said that the distrust in politicians is on par with the distrust we have towards lawyers and salesmen. Coincidentally, the majority of… Read more »

  • Cherilynn says:

    09:20am | 17/10/11

    AFAICT you’ve cevoerd all the bases with this answer! Read more »

 

Are you sick of being ripped off at the petrol pump? Are you annoyed that despite ample oil supplies on the market to meet current demand the speculators persist in trying to push up world oil prices?  And don’t forget that the Singapore benchmark for refined petrol used to calculate local petrol prices remains one of the highest in the world.

Not quite there yet. Photo: AP


A rip off is a rip off. The fact is that despite consistently being an inflated benchmark the Singapore benchmark for unleaded petrol has fallen dramatically since May 6. Despite valiant efforts by the speculators to try and prop up world oil prices, the Singapore benchmark price has fallen signifcantly.

As the Singapore benchmark price falls so should the local wholesale and retail petrol prices. The problem is that falls take forever to be passed through to motorists at the pump. We are given the usual “reasons” for the time lag. We are told that it takes time for the oil companies and major retailers to clear out old stock bought at the old, higher price.

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  • Harquebus says:

    09:26pm | 06/07/11

    Wolf, go to the top of the class. Suburbs and cities both have evolved around the car. Read more »

  • Harquebus says:

    09:24pm | 06/07/11

    My car was sacrificed a couple of years ago. Didn’t do any good. I’m back where I was except, minus a car. The internet is the only sacrifice I have left. Some folks will be pleased to hear that, soon I won’t be able to afford that either. I hope… Read more »

 

Are you fed up with costly political gimmicks by the Federal Government? Well, you should be as those gimmicks are costing you, the taxpayer, lots of money. We all know about the money wasted on Fuelwatch and GroceryChoice. While those debacles are long gone, they are not forgotten and serve as a constant reminder of how taxpayers’ money can be easily wasted.

Cartoon: Chris Taylor

That’s why we need to be vigilant to ensure that the Government doesn’t waste any more of your taxpayer money. Now there is one ongoing waste of money and that relates to the so-called Office of the Petrol Commissioner. Here we have a Petrol Commissioner at the ACCC that “watches” petrol prices.

You probably wouldn’t know, and perhaps don’t even care that we have actually had two different ACCC Petrol Commissioners appointed. The first left quickly, and the second one, Joe Dimasi, had been a long time ACCC staffer who was up-sized to a Commissioner title, with all the added costs to the taxpayer that a Commissioner title brings with it.

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  • LC says:

    02:03pm | 14/11/11

    Seeing as the study was done last year, it cab be pretty safely assumed they took the economic rise of China and India into consideration. Read more »

  • ZSRenn says:

    04:16am | 09/06/11

    Ah Actrol still living in the first half of the 20th century. Been a long time between drinks fella. I would like to see you put some spin on how these were part of Julias works as well. That would at least make your comment funny and not so damn… Read more »

 

Last weekend - while you were taking the kids to the beach, buying those extra back-to-school necessities, or for many, still counting the toll of recent devastating floods – unleaded petrol prices in capital cities rose an average 15 cents a litre at Coles and Woolworths outlets to a massive 143.9 cents per litre.  And those ridiculous rises were matched in part by the Independents and other chains.

Ahhh, the good old days. Pic: Brett Faulkner

So what’s the story?

On Saturday, the wholesale price of petrol actually dropped by more than half a cent, yet on the weekend we were hit with a massive 15 cent increase.  The size of the hike was described as “staggering” by FUELtrac general manager Greg Trotter.  He rightly pointed out that the prices we are now paying at the pump rival those records in 2008 when oil hit a peak of $US145 a barrel.  The big difference is that the current price of oil is only around the $US90 mark.

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  • Thommo says:

    11:45pm | 02/02/11

    Why doesn’t the government just fix the price for petrol, diesel and lpg. It can adjust it or set it directly indexed to the cost of a barrel of oil. Starting price - Unleaded = $1.20 , Diesel = $1.25 , LPG = 55 cents. Petrol station automatically makes 10%.… Read more »

  • Flexo says:

    07:17am | 02/02/11

    Mike T, you are right it isn’t just families who are struggling, everyone of us in this country is paying a price for having a pathetic ALP government in charge. Lets hope for the best mate and this Gillard bird and her cronies gets replaced before Easter. Read more »

 

Were you watching petrol prices in the lead up to Christmas 2010? If you were, then you would have noticed that the average retail price of unleaded petrol was going up around Australia.

Is that a smile or a grimace of pain? Picture: Nic Gibson

So what was behind the price hike in the lead up to Christmas? Well, there were a number of possible reasons, all of which meant that motorists were generally paying more than they needed to for petrol during the festive season. Some of these reasons, as we will see, also meant that motorists were paying inflated prices in some places.

Let’s start at the retail end and work our way back to international petrol and oil prices.

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  • LC says:

    10:04am | 08/09/11

    They could be moving there because they cannot afford housing in urban areas. If I were to move to within 5 kms of my employment, I’d be forking out $1.1 million, MINIMUM. You can thank governments pandering to bommers and pricing the young and the poor out of the market… Read more »

  • Your name: John says:

    07:21pm | 11/03/11

    Peak oil is causing oilco profit margins to rise? That’s a new one. Read more »

 

Have you ever wondered where you can buy the cheapest petrol or groceries? Well, if you have, then you would know that such information is not readily available.

Remember the timing? Mark Knight of the Herald Sun / File

You may try and search for the information, but in Australia you will soon find that there is generally no single place to get it. Yes, there may be some pricing information out there but it may be very limited, out of date or not in a readily accessible form.

In practice, this lack of full price transparency places you, the consumer, at a severe disadvantage. How many times have you driven by a petrol station offering one price only to find another service station down the road offering a cheaper price? What if you had decided to go into the first service station to buy your petrol only to later drive by the cheaper service station down the road? We have all been there and felt ripped off in the process.

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  • Someone says:

    07:22pm | 03/11/10

    Failing that, two simple rules for 90% of the time in Perth: 1. Go on Wednesday (sometimes Thursday, but this is riskier) 2. Boycott Profiteering (read the abbreviations to find which station I’m primarily talking about. Hint: They always lead the cycle on Wednesday) Read more »

  • Aberford says:

    02:31pm | 11/07/10

    Sherlock, you’re missing the point. Your clever reference to tenths of a cent is a diversion, perhaps inadvertently, from what Frank Zumbo is saying. He makes the point that the corporates have realtime info about market pricing, and consumers do not, so the corporates can, and do, use this advantage… Read more »

 

With growing evidence that cosy clubs between large and powerful companies are bad for competition and consumers, the Federal Government needs to act quickly to deal with the ACCC’s concerns on the issue.

Service stations: a reflection

The latest push from the ACCC came last week when it decided to oppose the proposed Caltex acquisition of 302 Mobil service stations. As part of that decision the ACCC expressed grave concerns that the oil majors appeared to be engaging in “price coordination” activities.

In plain English that means that the ACCC is alleging that the oil majors are acting as a cosy club when it comes to petrol prices. In particular, the ACCC is pointing to the oil majors conveniently following each other on prices. According to the ACCC this is leading to sharp rises in prices at the beginning of the weekly price cycle and slow falls during the cycle.

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  • Someone says:

    02:50pm | 14/04/10

    When I say average, that doesn’t include BP stations. Never ever buy petrol from BP on a Wednesday in Perth! Read more »

  • Someone says:

    04:57pm | 12/04/10

    Cheapest petrol in Perth: Average price = Wednesday Lowest price = Thursday Has been for the past two months, and was like that for most of 2009. If you fill up in the early half of the week, then you can pretty much guarantee a good deal. And if the… Read more »

 

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