George Pell

The other day I was watching ABC’s The Drum where Peter Singer was talking about the importance of giving to charitable causes to help alleviate global poverty. Good stuff from Singer, but out of nowhere comes a reference to Catholic Archbishop of Sydney Cardinal George Pell from one of the panelists.

And where did these hats end up?

Apparently Pell, at some point, had said that there is no genuine altruism, people only do good because it makes them feel good (well duh, I’ve heard that before). Anyway, next thing I know the inference is being made that Pell would rather have us walk around flagellating ourselves than giving to charitable causes.

There I am, watching the show, and I’m just baffled as to how went from generous giving to medieval self-mutilation at the behest of George Pell. Then it finally dawns on me, “Of course, this is the The Drum, the final credits can’t roll without at least one Catholic being bashed.” I should have known better.

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  • Bern says:

    01:54pm | 17/05/12

    Totally agree, the Catholic Church started schools for the poor, hospitals, shelters for the homeless, St Vincent de Paul Charity Stores, Universities, University colleges and many many positive social programmes in society. Read more »

  • Liz says:

    01:41pm | 17/05/12

    DLP also have a member of parliament in the Victorian Upper House so that makes 2 members of parliament and countless others are in public life because of the words of BA Santamaria and Cardinal Pell Read more »

 

That wonderful institution called marriage has been in the media a lot this week – and for two very different reasons.

Costume? Tick. Bling? Tick. Let's have a parade! Pic: Nikki Short

In the US, President Barack Obama has faced down deeply conservative voters to reverse his opposition to gay marriage. Interestingly, he cited his Christian values as the primary reason for reversing his thinking. “In the end, the values that I care most deeply about ... is how we treat other people,” he said.

Hallelujah to that, and we can only hope our own Prime Minister Julia Gillard – usually so eager to warm to Mr Obama but on this occasion very quick to shrug him off – reverses her own thinking on the issue sometime soon.

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  • The Civet says:

    04:54pm | 14/05/12

    @ P. DARVIO 03:02 pm: You left out Pol Pot who was a Buddhist priest for God’s sake! Read more »

  • snooch says:

    04:50pm | 14/05/12

    @ Collette. So, in your opinion, what is it that makes humans above the rest of the natural world? Self-awareness, free will, consciousness??? The planet we currently inhibit has been here for a long, long time - far longer than humans (and yes, longer than a couple of thousand years).… Read more »

 

Dawkins was snooty. Pell was outwitted. The questions were predictable, as were the mentions of Hitler and Stalin. There were titters at Pell’s reference to ‘preparing’ boys and sniggers when he clumsily criticised Jews as intellectually inferior shepherds.

Come on in, leave your soul at the door!

Last night’s Q and A starring Cardinal George Pell and evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins went pretty much exactly as expected.

But then, an epiphany.  According to Pell, the highest Catholic authority in the land, a man with a direct line to God, ATHEISTS CAN GO TO HEAVEN.

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  • Anon says:

    01:46pm | 20/04/12

    Aww, Discussion has stopped here :( Read more »

  • snooch says:

    03:02pm | 15/04/12

    @ Chris (a different one) - Josephus’ works have been debunked time and time again. Anyone using Josephus as proof of anything, let alone historical fact, is deluded. Read more »

 

“It is not ideal that religious freedom is protected by so-called ‘exemptions and exceptions’ in anti-discrimination law, almost like reluctant concessions, crumbs from the secularists’ table.”

I say old chap - pass the loaves and fishes, please!

Cardinal George Pell’s recent lament to Prime Minister Julia Gillard about the “secularists’ table” seems odd, given that religion still defines our nationhood. Just ask our atheist Prime Minister. It is hard to imagine then how exceptions and exemptions are metaphorical “crumbs”, when they have a vast reach in excluding minority groups in Australia.

While each state and territory currently has anti-discrimination laws which protect against some forms of sexuality or gender identity discrimination, the inconsistency in terminology, and the wide-ranging exemptions (particularly for faith-based bodies) means there are considerable gaps in protecting the rights of individuals accessing health services, goods or services, aged care, employment and education.

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  • Pat Ross says:

    09:30pm | 20/04/12

    I have found that modern churches will christen your grandchildren, then steal their inheritance, all under the umbrella of religious freedom, and privilege that knows no boundaries, no morality, and nothing but a show of humanity that pretends a loyalty and charity that doesn’t exist, and perhaps never has -… Read more »

  • markjuliansmith says:

    12:33pm | 06/09/11

    @Mark McKinlay You may be right I am not certain of anything. Faith provides secular and religious certainty the greater the certainty the greater the danger to humanity. So it is important not to be so certain you know the ‘truth’. “Why must be the custodians of “human rights” in… Read more »

 

Cardinal George Pell has been a spiritual adviser to Tony Abbott and he would have provided welcomed guidance to the Opposition Leader over the years.

Cardinal George Pell, good on God maybe not on climate. Picture: News.com.au

But a mild-mannered weather forecaster has raised the prospect that Cardinal Pell might have misled his closest friend in his political flock on the secular issue of climate change policy.

Dr Greg Ayers is director of the Bureau of Meteorology and on Monday night he used a Senate estimates committee hearing to take on the cardinal, his scientific adviser, and a handful of senators who thought they could talk him down.

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  • Ken Maynard says:

    03:35pm | 02/03/11

    To the Punch; I realize this posting is too late for this column, I ask however that it be referred to the author.  May I refer the author to ~Creation & Evolution~ 5 pages, under Christianity tab, on http://www.communichristi.org.nz    I also ask this sending be referred to… Lisa Meredith… Read more »

  • Tony says:

    10:47am | 28/02/11

    To Malcolm Farr, why not repent of your sins and accept the sacrifice of Christ on the cross for sinners like you and me? Eternity can be wonderful, but to reject Him on Earth is to reject him forever. He loves you Malcolm. Read more »

 

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