George Pell

I’ve only ever been to confession twice, both times when I was a young child. The first time I couldn’t think of anything to confess to so I made up some sins and was rewarded with penance of two Hail Marys.

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In hindsight the Hail Marys were probably for lying to God. Our parish priest was a good man who would have known when an 8-year-old was talking it up.

But even then it felt very weird to me that children would be expected to enter a dark little box on their own and open up the conversation with: “Forgive me Father for I have sinned”.

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  • Carl Palmer says:

    06:44pm | 14/11/12

    @ cynical old codger says “.....and the blind eye , nudge,nudge , wink, wink attitude that has allowed these crimes to be carried out over such a broad spectrum of organisations.” And to then go to a confessional to ask for forgiveness….. I don’t think so. Doesn’t make any sense.… Read more »

  • Maryjane says:

    06:32pm | 14/11/12

    AdamC says: ...‘the confientiality of the confessional should continue If the Catholic Church and, presumably, the High Church of England are to be allowed to ignore the law why shouldn’t Muslims be accorded the same concession?  They have some interesting religious customs which are important to them and of just… Read more »

 

Detective Chief Inspector Peter Fox has just joined a very small, specific club; people willing to put their career and reputation on the line in the name of principle, to help others.

Why is this man being punished? Photo: Herald Sun

Julia Gillard’s announcement last night of a Federal Royal Commission into child sex abuse has been a long time coming. But the pressure became too much for the Prime Minister to resist the moment Peter Fox went public late last week with his demand NSW Premier Barry O’Farrell launch an inquiry into a Church and police cover-up.

His bravery was the straw that finally broke the camel’s back.

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  • stephen says:

    06:57pm | 13/11/12

    This Royal Commission will be very important because it will most likely release information to the public during its completion. But it is not a witch-hunt that will attend a reading public’s concern, but might hopefully change the way adults relate to children. (This latter problem, amongst a couple of… Read more »

  • Don says:

    06:41pm | 13/11/12

    It is ironic that a senior police officer could try and coerce Peter Fox’s GP into saying something that wasn’t true whereas priests are not required by law to assist police with actual confessions of serious, heinous crimes. Why is it that the good guy is treated as a criminal… Read more »

 

There is a textbook study in how not to handle allegations of systematic child sexual abuse and it was written by the retired Anglican bishop Peter Hollingworth. The mistakes made by Hollingworth cost him his job as Governor-General. They are now being repeated, arguably to an even graver and more offensive degree, by Catholic Archbishop George Pell.

Have the coppers got me those damned stats yet? Photo: Dan Himbrechts

Hollingworth’s biggest misjudgement in the scandal surrounding his knowledge of and response to child abuse in his church was to go on Australian Story and declare that a young female victim of abuse had actually instigated the sexual contact herself.

George Pell had his own Hollingworth moment on Sunday when he declared that he wants the NSW Police to wade through the total number of child abuse cases on their books so that the public can get a sense of what proportion of such cases involve the Catholic Church.

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  • PJ says:

    06:26pm | 13/11/12

    Fml The catholic church is the biggest institution that handles children. So it’s bound to have higher figures than other institutions. Catholics are not a separate population in Australia, they are Australians. There number are representative of Australia. Paedophiles live in our society. They see there greatest opportunity of accessing… Read more »

  • Chris L says:

    06:10pm | 13/11/12

    Indeed Louise, your freedom of speech is a precious thing. Along with it comes the freedom of others to disagree if they are thus inclined. I certainly didn’t say Pell ‘should just be quiet’ despite the quotation marks you included. I suggested he might have been better served by doing… Read more »

 

BREAKING NEWS: Prime Minister Julia Gillard has just announced a national Royal Commission into child abuse - beyond just the Catholic Church to look at abuse in all religious organisations and in state care, as well as schools and not-for-profit organisations. She said any instance of child absue is a “vile and evil thing”, and that “there have been too many revelations of adults who have averted their eyes”. She hopes the terms of reference will be finalised by the end of the year after consultation with victims’ groups and the states and territories.

Keeping it close to the chest. Pic: AP

Meanwhile, Cardinal George Pell, Archbishop of Sydney and the country’s most powerful Catholic, is acting like a child just when he most needs to man up. In the face of the latest horrific allegations of systemic child abuse and coverups within the Catholic Church he has cried, by turns: ‘it wasn’t me’, and ‘they did it too’.

Detective Chief Inspector Peter Fox, a senior investigative cop, has revealed new depths in the scandal that has haunted the church for decades. He said “the church covers up, silences victims, hinders police investigations, alerts offenders, destroys evidence and moves priests to protect the good name of the church”.

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  • Alex says:

    06:43pm | 12/11/12

    @Kipling - I think you place too much faith in democracy. Have the greatest leaders in Australia been the last few Prime Ministers we have had, or are likely to have in the future? I’m not bagging democracy (I’m very grateful for it), but there are countries, organisations and institutions… Read more »

  • Tedd says:

    06:43pm | 12/11/12

    Alex, the Bible is clearly myth-fiction the central character was “born of a Ghost”. It is a series of stories used by the church & its clergy for power and manipulation - it is not the word of any god. Read more »

 

I went to Sydney Uni, fell in love with a girl who attended one of the residential colleges and married her 10 years later. Our courtship didn’t start smoothly. One night, just as things began to get steamy for the first time, a vomit competition started up in the hallway outside her room.

A pool of vomit guards the sandstone citadel of St John's College, where no morals can get in or out

Yes, a vomit competition. On the hallway carpet. A projectile vomit competition, to be precise. Don’t ask me how the contest worked. Maybe it was a distance thing. Maybe it had something to do with the ratio of carrot chunks. Either way, those competitive vomiters embodied (or should that be disembodied?) everything that is wrong with the old communal colleges in the sandstone universities.

This week, Sydney Archbishop George Pell announced he would step in and try to fix the ongoing mess at Sydney Uni’s St John’s College. His intervention comes after years of shameful incidents, including the near-death of a female student after an initiation ritual gone wrong. It’s a good move by Pell, but I’ve got a better one. Disband the colleges altogether.

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  • chris says:

    06:41pm | 05/11/12

    When I was part of the women’s collective at sydney uni in the 70’s we were contacted by some women students who were studying at Wagga.  They wanted some support from city women in the face of some particularly nasty and sexist behaviour on campus.  When we got there we… Read more »

  • Steve says:

    06:39pm | 05/11/12

    I have worked as a security guard at Sydney Uni between 2005 - 2009. What I saw at these colleges would go beyond any description of indecency, violation, cruelty, vulgarism & I don’t believe there is a word in the dictionary yet to describe the behaviour of some of the… Read more »

 

The best assessment Cardinal George Pell could offer this week on the Catholic Church’s handling of the decades of irreparable damage caused by paedophile priests was the Church had “an adequate story to tell.”

The very foundations are trembling…

Even if that were true, “adequate” is, well, inadequate. The worst thing about the episode of 4 Corners that aired on Monday night was that it was just a handful of stories among many.

The young men whose lives were destroyed, their parents, siblings, friends and children permanently damaged, and the priests who appear to have been completely let off the hook, are not alone.

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  • DavidS says:

    11:42am | 09/07/12

    A critical issue is this: If a church (or any other organisation for that matter) has its bread and butter in morality; a world that possibly could not exist without their aid about what is wrong and right, and then defend or fail to pursue and condemn paedophiles, then said… Read more »

  • Mum23 says:

    06:17pm | 08/07/12

    No not a lawyer. Just an everyday human who cannot stand abuse and hipocracy, especially when the attackers and their friends have the audacity to blame and continue persecuting the victim. Read more »

 

The other day I was watching ABC’s The Drum where Peter Singer was talking about the importance of giving to charitable causes to help alleviate global poverty. Good stuff from Singer, but out of nowhere comes a reference to Catholic Archbishop of Sydney Cardinal George Pell from one of the panelists.

And where did these hats end up?

Apparently Pell, at some point, had said that there is no genuine altruism, people only do good because it makes them feel good (well duh, I’ve heard that before). Anyway, next thing I know the inference is being made that Pell would rather have us walk around flagellating ourselves than giving to charitable causes.

There I am, watching the show, and I’m just baffled as to how went from generous giving to medieval self-mutilation at the behest of George Pell. Then it finally dawns on me, “Of course, this is the The Drum, the final credits can’t roll without at least one Catholic being bashed.” I should have known better.

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  • Bern says:

    01:54pm | 17/05/12

    Totally agree, the Catholic Church started schools for the poor, hospitals, shelters for the homeless, St Vincent de Paul Charity Stores, Universities, University colleges and many many positive social programmes in society. Read more »

  • Liz says:

    01:41pm | 17/05/12

    DLP also have a member of parliament in the Victorian Upper House so that makes 2 members of parliament and countless others are in public life because of the words of BA Santamaria and Cardinal Pell Read more »

 

That wonderful institution called marriage has been in the media a lot this week – and for two very different reasons.

Costume? Tick. Bling? Tick. Let's have a parade! Pic: Nikki Short

In the US, President Barack Obama has faced down deeply conservative voters to reverse his opposition to gay marriage. Interestingly, he cited his Christian values as the primary reason for reversing his thinking. “In the end, the values that I care most deeply about ... is how we treat other people,” he said.

Hallelujah to that, and we can only hope our own Prime Minister Julia Gillard – usually so eager to warm to Mr Obama but on this occasion very quick to shrug him off – reverses her own thinking on the issue sometime soon.

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  • Leonardo says:

    01:56pm | 02/06/12

    Helllo Mr Morris,I am very impressed with your wbsiete.Alot of infomation is linked off your site wiith some of my favorite apologetic topics and authors.I am kind of new but have always had a strong desire to be able understand and disuss the various hard question some unbeliever ask adn… Read more »

  • Helena says:

    09:48am | 31/05/12

    Well, Veronica, you probably know why I am a vocal atsehit. I think religion is a social problem. It’s regressive and intrusive, and thinks it has the right to be. I want to see religion get shoved into the private sphere where it belongs. There should be no religious school… Read more »

 

Dawkins was snooty. Pell was outwitted. The questions were predictable, as were the mentions of Hitler and Stalin. There were titters at Pell’s reference to ‘preparing’ boys and sniggers when he clumsily criticised Jews as intellectually inferior shepherds.

Come on in, leave your soul at the door!

Last night’s Q and A starring Cardinal George Pell and evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins went pretty much exactly as expected.

But then, an epiphany.  According to Pell, the highest Catholic authority in the land, a man with a direct line to God, ATHEISTS CAN GO TO HEAVEN.

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  • Chirs J says:

    07:49pm | 11/07/12

    What the hell? I get a little sick and tired of all this arguing crap. I know religious people feel they are right becuase they have an experience with god. They never actually meet him. Thats like having a cold chill down your spine and instead of saying it was… Read more »

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“It is not ideal that religious freedom is protected by so-called ‘exemptions and exceptions’ in anti-discrimination law, almost like reluctant concessions, crumbs from the secularists’ table.”

I say old chap - pass the loaves and fishes, please!

Cardinal George Pell’s recent lament to Prime Minister Julia Gillard about the “secularists’ table” seems odd, given that religion still defines our nationhood. Just ask our atheist Prime Minister. It is hard to imagine then how exceptions and exemptions are metaphorical “crumbs”, when they have a vast reach in excluding minority groups in Australia.

While each state and territory currently has anti-discrimination laws which protect against some forms of sexuality or gender identity discrimination, the inconsistency in terminology, and the wide-ranging exemptions (particularly for faith-based bodies) means there are considerable gaps in protecting the rights of individuals accessing health services, goods or services, aged care, employment and education.

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Cardinal George Pell has been a spiritual adviser to Tony Abbott and he would have provided welcomed guidance to the Opposition Leader over the years.

Cardinal George Pell, good on God maybe not on climate. Picture: News.com.au

But a mild-mannered weather forecaster has raised the prospect that Cardinal Pell might have misled his closest friend in his political flock on the secular issue of climate change policy.

Dr Greg Ayers is director of the Bureau of Meteorology and on Monday night he used a Senate estimates committee hearing to take on the cardinal, his scientific adviser, and a handful of senators who thought they could talk him down.

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  • Ken Maynard says:

    03:35pm | 02/03/11

    To the Punch; I realize this posting is too late for this column, I ask however that it be referred to the author.  May I refer the author to ~Creation & Evolution~ 5 pages, under Christianity tab, on http://www.communichristi.org.nz    I also ask this sending be referred to… Lisa Meredith… Read more »

  • Tony says:

    10:47am | 28/02/11

    To Malcolm Farr, why not repent of your sins and accept the sacrifice of Christ on the cross for sinners like you and me? Eternity can be wonderful, but to reject Him on Earth is to reject him forever. He loves you Malcolm. Read more »

 

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