Generation Y

In an interview discussing his increasing philanthropy late last year, Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg noted that “when you give everyone a voice and give people power, the system usually ends up in a really good place. So, what we view our role as, is giving people that power.”

Facebook, for Zuckerberg, has a role to play in power systems. It can be a political tool for leaders. And he’s right, but only conditionally; a number of other groups need to come to the party before we can consider social media a tool for good.

I spent a recent weekend helping Year 11 students understand what it means to be a leader, and I can safely say that I don’t share the pessimism about our future that the majority of headlines concerning ‘young Australians’ seems to show. But nor can I say in good conscience that the future is all roses.

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  • OEM software online says:

    12:20pm | 07/11/11

    IA1MKo It`s really useful! Looking through the Internet you can mostly observe watered down information, something like bla bla bla, but not here to my deep surprise. It makes me happy..!! Read more »

  • amy says:

    06:35pm | 06/11/11

    I know right? Im much happyer now than I was in school, I mean seriously, what a dumb thing to say to a bunch of emo kids…and they woner why some teens are depressed Read more »

 

Earlier this week, 86-year-old Leroy Luetscher temporarily became my idol. The Arizona pensioner was reportedly enjoying a spot of gardening when a freak accident left a pair of garden shears lodged in his eye socket. That’s right, his eye socket.

The sort of thing badass old people do. Picture: AP

The handle went past his eye and through his neck, eventually resting on his external carotid artery, leaving him to walk around like some sort of Edward Scissor-Face.

Luetscher, who is expected to make a full recovery, said he was “grateful to the doctors and staff” and left it at that. No blog. No finger-pointing. No attempt to use the incident to become a breakfast radio star or get a retweet from Snooki. The guy was all class and dignity. Elderly blokes like Luetscher make Jack “check out my one arm push-ups” Plance seem like no big deal.

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  • Mike says:

    11:01am | 04/09/11

    I’m an “Old Person” too.  Got a computer or stereo you need fixed?  Got a wireless network you need installed or secured?  I can do all that.  Can you? Read more »

  • Mike says:

    10:54am | 04/09/11

    “What we need is another war to toughen everyone back up.” Geez, don’t we have enough wars already???  I wish my son hadn’t had to go to Afghanistan… Read more »

 

Gen Y. We revel in a hook-up culture of “joyless, pitiless sex”. We treat people of the opposite sex (and the same sex) as objects for us to consume. We don’t just go out and have a few beers on a Friday night, we have ‘spit roast’ (the verb, not the noun) parties after hitting up the meat market.

It sure does. If they hadn't gotten together this terrible movie wouldn't have been made

We brush our teeth with bottles of Jack Daniels, and personally, barely a day goes by where my phone isn’t avalanched by sext messages.

Yeeeeesh. I wish. It’s no surprise to anyone of my generation that baby boomer commentators just don’t get Gen Y. But when we’re debating Gen Y, there’s something that everyone – Gen Y and pundits alike – seems to miss.

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  • Gen-Y too says:

    10:52am | 24/11/11

    Gen Y are also rather bad at percentages it would seem. Read more »

  • C.M.G says:

    11:39am | 29/08/11

    For sure Danny boy, my girlfriends and me just love a quick fix with no strings attached,  bit like having a toothache, you get to have the goodies and we get the ouch! Be real! Read more »

 

A friend recently told me of his horror when a colleague asked a co-worker why she only had one child.

As this picture shows, pensioners don't hold the rights to politeness. Photo: AFP.

It was a dangerous question to ask a mere acquaintance in front of the rest of the office. What if the answer had been a heart-breaking miscarriage? Marital disharmony? A crippling amount of debt? Infertility?

No doubt the 21-year-old woman’s thoughtless question left her older workmates clucking their tongues at Gen Y’s arrogance and lack of manners.

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Ricky Ponting had a lot to live up to when he took over as captain of Australia from Steve Waugh, but two more World Cup titles, a maiden Champions Trophy and equaling Waugh’s 16 test record winning streak cemented him as a leader to rival his predecessor.

Good at cricket, excellent at smouldering. Photo: Phil Hillyard.

But if Ponting had big shoes to fill, his successor - Michael Clarke - will look like he’s stepping into Ronald McDonald’s boots.

Fairfax journalist Roy Masters perfectly summed up up the feelings of the Australian public on the issue of Clarke as the next commander-in-chief of the Baggy Green brigade.

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  • Amanda says:

    02:36pm | 31/03/11

    I totally agree TChong. Meg - what do you mean, “we let a women be a prime minister”?  Let? Read more »

  • A Human says:

    12:38pm | 31/03/11

    It wasn’t sociologist that came up with the names for the generations…it was marketers…how you do you like being gamed by them hey? Don’t play the game, drop all labels. Read more »

 

For the last quarter of a century, it’s been something of a national pastime to bag ad man Siimon Reynolds for being a wanker. But if Gen Y – a group who know a little something about being pilloried as superficial, materialistic, self-obsessed fame whores – were old enough to know who he is, they might be tempted to claim the 46-year-old as one of their own and insist he be treated with more respect.

I knew I was ahead of my time. Pic: Teresa Ooi

Perhaps it’s time all of us — Yers, Xers and Boomers alike — rethought our attitude towards Reynolds.

For a case can be made that he is not the pretentious tool of the popular imagination, but rather a prescient pioneer who intuited where society was heading and adapted to the economic and social changes being set in motion by Thatcher, Reagan and, in Australia, Hawke and Keating, at the time he was coming of age.

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  • sydney guy says:

    12:48pm | 08/02/11

    bloody hell Nigel, do you want to blow this guy (who ever he is), or what? Read more »

  • PD says:

    12:09pm | 08/02/11

    Two iis. Get it right. Read more »

 

Young Australians have often been labelled as lazy and lacking many crucial skills, leaving many older Australians to worry about the future of this country, left in the hands of those who lack the ability to look after themselves.

Would you like an iPhone app with that Sven chair?

A bunch of survey results released recently echo these fears, focusing on the loss of traditional knowledge in the younger generation.

Simply put, women are not learning the skills that traditionally women once knew, and men are losing the manly abilities they once had.

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  • chief pancake maker says:

    11:18am | 04/02/11

    Now if I could just get him to make an honest woman of me he would be perfect!!! Read more »

  • St. Michael says:

    01:34am | 04/02/11

    We head to the Bunnings, pick up some shovels, put ‘em in the back of the car, head back to the Crown, have a couple of beers, go back to Subby’s place, take care of nosthow, drive back to the Crown, and hole up until this whole thing blows over.… Read more »

 

We don’t mind if you can’t sew. Just wear underwear.

Just what will Snooki do next?

According to a survey, the vast majority of Generation Y females are losing their womanly ways.

Traditional female skills such as sewing, ironing, cooking, homemaking and other ‘womanly’ traits are on the decline and instead women are driving automatic cars and contributing to a growing incidence of consumerism.

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  • Ray says:

    02:40pm | 03/02/11

    Kitty, what I mean by ‘hijacked education’ is that when it was decided that girls education needed to be boosted, there was really no need to because education was pretty much equatable. From the 70’s on structural changes were implemented to assist girls/women. ie singular encouragement, a shift to expression/arts… Read more »

  • GingerKitty says:

    01:37pm | 03/02/11

    Ray Graham, In no way do I mean to discount the hard work men have put in to building our society as we know it today (even though there was a time in history where women were not allowed to be educated). I understand the sacrifices which men have made… Read more »

 

Sometimes people just get it plain wrong. And that goes for me as well.

Teach them well and let them lead the way. Pic: Annette Dew

Often we’ve thought that Generation Y are so preoccupied with themselves that they are not interested in the world around them. Or worse, they’re interested but not doing anything about it.

The stereotype goes along these lines: locked up in their bedrooms, on Facebook 24 hours a day, playing computer games, comfortable in the world of anonymity. And no social responsibility. Well, it’s time to put all their prejudices back in their box. Because what has happened in Brisbane in the last few weeks is the total and comprehensive counterproof.

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  • hatingitall says:

    08:49am | 30/01/11

    i’m not sure why one age group needs thanking in a crisis that affects all- but being grateful for grouping together-sure. it’s not right to make it about generations who deserve thanking! ludacris! To be gen x-or “gen x-stra ignored bias”  This is ,YET another example of it. rather than… Read more »

  • Julian says:

    12:53am | 29/01/11

    Ben H the main thing which is clear is your personal bias against Rudd. Kevin is thanking genY (which is mostly maligned for having no social conscious), for stepping up to clean up the debris, rubbish and mud. You however seem more then happy to sling as much verbal rubbish… Read more »

 

Quite frankly, I’m a little jealous. I can’t remember the last time I threw a brick at a shopfront, kicked a Royal Rolls Royce or even pulled a face at a grumpy copper.

Students change Twitter avatar doesn't have quite the same front-page potential. Picture: AFP

From memory, it was around the 14th of Never. While I’m not a huge fan of placing my face in the path of a moving police baton, I have to admit I’ve been getting a bit envious of those thronging British Gen Y masses on television.

Now, I’m not in any way condoning the rock pelting, glass smashing and general widespread destruction- but I am condoning the protests. How exciting it must all be.

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  • Revolting Peasant says:

    09:17am | 14/12/10

    While I don’t condone violence or wanton vandalism I think a full scale revolution is inevitable and close. Shane from Melbourne - The people of the US aren’t protesting because they’re afraid of the consequences. The US Patriot Act has put paid to any form of dissent lest a person… Read more »

  • michael j says:

    01:43am | 14/12/10

    Most revoluations the big ones anyway are caused when the people go without food for a long period of time ,,, some of the poor are starting to go without ,,and they are not all,,bludgers,drunks,or drug addicts,,they just carnt pay their bills Many Pensioners are in the same boat,,some are… Read more »

 

Entering a newsroom as an aspiring young journalist ,it can safely be assumed that even the most educated individual is naïve to the workings of the world. It could be said this never changes.

Copenhagen…the conference which amounted to nothing. Photo: AFP

Working in the media you come across countless information and are exposed to thousands of stories. Some of them are uplifting, showing us the amazing things humanity is capable of. Others just show the dark side of a species bent on destroying itself.

More and more I find myself reading information and stories that make me disillusioned about the future. I am constantly raided with information about joblessness, climate change, rising house prices, incompetent government, racism, sexism, wars being waged apparently to protect me.

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  • H says:

    03:01pm | 29/11/10

    Well put Alistair, I know three Gen Yrs serving overseas… Read more »

  • Alistair says:

    08:12am | 28/11/10

    Wow. Some of the comments here make it sound like there are no 18 to 20 year olds serving in Afghanistan. I would suggest to those that there are many Gen Y’ers doing the “hard stuff” in foxholes. Not only that, there are kids just starting highschool now that have… Read more »

 

Sitting around in a café the other day, one of my former colleagues bemoaned the fact that young people where not as active as him when he was studying. He raised his frustration that each generation is getting more politically lethargic and ranted about the generational changes we are seeing.

Here's looking at you kid, 20-year-old Liberal MP Wyatt Roy. Picture: Ray Strange

Apart from reminding him that ‘his generation’ had not done such a bang up job in solving the world’s problems, and actually delivering some new ones, the whole area of ‘generational research’ is one that is deeply flawed. That is, to clearly define a population’s attributes based on their ‘generational status’ tends to homogenise a population by their age – despite there always being significant differences within each cluster.

Despite this, we see books and papers about Boomers, X-ers and Y’s – all presented as if this is the missing ingredient in understanding the way of the world and what is going on with our society. So is this the case?

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  • Forgotten Australian Family says:

    07:20pm | 14/11/10

    No plaque will help us!  From one abused child, four adults on disability have resulted. Three of them - his wife and two daughters, were high achievers whose spirits have been crushed by the lack of compassion and restitution shown to this man.  Taken as a small child by uncaring… Read more »

  • Against the Man says:

    07:03pm | 14/11/10

    Look at Labor, look at families, especially in my area of Western Sydney - it isn’t pretty. The ALP and Gillard don’t care. Why should Gillard care? Read more »

 

I am 19 years old and last Monday night there was a party at my friend’s house.

Last week's Q & A was not worth missing a party for.

Not just any party, but a holiday-launching, noise-polluting, parent-make-grumbling kind of party. There were girls too, lots of them. I didn’t go.

Instead I was stuck to the edge of my couch with my eyes glued to the television. They were going to talk about euthanasia on Q&A.

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  • acotrel says:

    04:10am | 13/10/10

    Wayne, I’ve never met a catholic who supported abortion or euthanasia.  You’ve declined to make input on this current topic.  Do you need George Pell to hold your hand? Read more »

  • acotrel says:

    04:05am | 13/10/10

    Reg, ‘Proper controls’ means a situation where the risks are appropriately controlled so that potential for harm to innocents is minimised to a level tolerable to society. If euthanasia becomes murder or manslaughter, that is a problem for all of us. Read more »

 

In the world of employment, the growing skills shortage is like a low, black cloud building on the horizon.

What had you done by the time you were 23? Entrepreneur Jack Delosa.

While the GFC slowed the demand for labour it didn’t change the fact our workforce is ageing. In a few years more people leaving the workforce in Australia than joining it.

As workplace age management expert Alison Monroe quipped recently, “the only thing that changed during the GFC is that boomers got two years closer to retirement.”

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  • SoylentGreen says:

    07:32pm | 22/09/10

    I am convinced that between the corporate welfare rorts, plutocracy money funnel to the rich, corrupt government, exploding population and the ever degrading ability of the planet to sustain 7-11 billion people that the Gen-Y group will inherit a shyte sturm. The little kiddies are in big trouble. http://theautomaticearth.blogspot.com/ Read more »

  • Forgotten generation says:

    03:24pm | 20/09/10

    This article just shows how vapid some generational discussions can be. A global shortage of labour is on the horizon - i’d say any company want to remain competitive has to do everything it can to attract and retain people regardless of gender, age or generation. The article neglects two… Read more »

 

A 21st birthday, with a house full of family and grandparents. The birthday girl and all her friends come from middle class families who are supportive and loving. They all attended good schools, work casually, go to uni and have active social lives.

And for the next course in our suburban dinner party ...
It sounds like a scene of suburban tranquillity, so why is the only thing going through my head is: am I only the person who’s noticed that the birthday girl and many of the friends are completely wasted on drugs?
Talking to the mum and another girl, all I can think is ‘how can she not notice? She has to know. Is she too embarrassed to say something?’

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  • James1 says:

    07:00pm | 09/09/10

    Alcohol is a drug, stephen, no matter how you put it.  Its history and whatever else means nothing.  It is a depressant, similar to heroin.  When you consume alcohol, you are consuming a drug.  I don’t really care about whether drugs are legal or not - I don’t take them… Read more »

  • Alex says:

    08:29pm | 08/09/10

    Louis - I apologise. You are, of course, entitled to your opinion. I do feel that actually experiencing a thing (whatever that thing is) is kinda paramount to you KNOWING anything about it, however. Read more »

 

Perhaps one of the reasons that Gen Y has a distinct sense of entitlement is because we grew up with John Howard as our Prime Minister.

Is Kev 07 still onside? Cartoon: Warren Brown.

After spending a decade under conservative rule, we had heard stories of Whitlam, Hawke and Keating and wanted our taste of social reform too.

When Howard’s long innings finally came to a close in 2007, it felt like Gen Y had politically come of age.

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  • LC says:

    02:34pm | 31/05/10

    @seano, Which is why the main threats to labor comes not only from the Liberals, but the Greens. At the next election, the liberal voters will vote liberal as usual, but labor’s 18-35 voters (me, 26, will be one of them) will switch to the greens. I wouldn’t be surpised… Read more »

  • antman says:

    08:41pm | 15/04/10

    Rudd has been a huge disappointment. He has proven to be every bit the populist that Howard could be and in no measure a leader. In fact, the similarities between Rudd and Howard have been unnerving: ruling their party with an iron fist and having the final say on any… Read more »

 

Last month, Woodstock Festival – the event that’s come to represent Baby Boomer youth culture in our collective consciousness – turned 40.

Zac Efron - license to print money.

Given the Boomers spawned the crazy consumer consumption habits that sent us crashing towards the GFC, it was only fitting for promoters to get the talent off the couch, jab them with Botox and organise the requisite merchandising and exorbitant ticket pricing. Ka-ching!

Meanwhile, the media and marketers have been celebrating ageing while concurrently exploring ways to delay its visible signs in order to appeal to the cash-cow that is the Boomers’ retirement fund (albeit one reduced by the GFC).

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  • Patty Huntington says:

    12:43pm | 08/09/09

    Apple Inc – Steve Jobs (54), Steve Wozniak (59) Microsoft – Bill Gates (53) BlackBerry – Mike Lazaridis (48) The MP3 player – Kane Kramer (53 - and acknowledged by Apple as the true inventor of the iPod) Nintendo’s Mario, Donkey Kong, The Legend of Zelda, Star Fox, Pikmin, F-Zero,… Read more »

  • NNick says:

    10:42pm | 04/09/09

    “You might remember a band by the name of the Arctic Monkeys, the original myspace hype band. Their debut album sold like hotcakes; how did their follow-up album fare?” Extremely well: (from Wikipedia) “Favourite Worst Nightmare’s first day sales of 85,000 outsold the rest of the Top 20 combined, while… Read more »

 

In a speech to Young Labor seven months ago I said that generations were often unfairly criticised by the ones which preceded them.

The young adults of Generation Y are often generalised as being plagued by apathy and indifference.

They’re sometimes called lazy and ungrateful for the many perceived advantages they have over earlier generations.

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  • imarion says:

    06:59am | 31/01/12

    This was a really refreshing read. Gen Y is pretty consistently dubbed as “not capable” or “selfish,” and it simply isn’t true. There are obviously incapable and selfish people in every generation, all over the world; but there no entire generation acts one way. Understanding that relationships are what cultivate… Read more »

  • imarion says:

    06:58am | 31/01/12

    This was a really refreshing read. Gen Y is pretty consistently dubbed as “not capable” or “selfish,” and it simply isn’t true. There are obviously incapable and selfish people in every generation, all over the world; but there no entire generation acts one way. Understanding that relationships are what cultivate… Read more »

 

When I was 19, I started mapping out my career plans. I was in my second year of university when I decided to volunteer as an unpaid intern for two full days per week at a magazine publishing house. My baby-boomer father never understood how I could do it for two years without pay (while working weekends in retail, where yes, I dealt with the worst customers imaginable and cleaned up kid vomit from the floor of my store), but I had faith in the fact that it would one day pay off.

Headed for a spell in various kitchens and mine shafts.

One day was not this week, because this week, Employment Minister Mark Arbib is urging Gen Y to readjust their ideas about work and employment, stop the “snobbery” associated with certain means of work, and take whatever jobs they could get. For someone whose attitude to work has more to do with paying university fees and funding my internet bill than snobbery and a class act on the career ladder, Senator Arbib’s comments did not go down too well. And I was not the only one to notice.

Generation Y has long bore the brunt of the attention-seeking, lazy, power-hungry generation that refused to put in the hard yards for their future, something which the Senator might have capitalised on in his address to a young labor conference last week. What he failed to recognise is the fact that Generation Y has suffered long enough as a result of this stereotype, and as such, was ditching conventional forms and methods of work in favour of something that works for them.

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  • Youngson says:

    01:39pm | 07/02/12

    Hi Cindy,Generation Jones is ulausly considered mix between Generation X and Baby Boomers. We decided to focus on the distinct generations (Generation Z, Y, X and Baby Boomers) instead of combinations, like Generation Jones. We’d be happy to work with you to develop a post on Generation Jones. Please contact… Read more »

  • Celeste says:

    09:28pm | 02/02/10

    Like Dan I as a quallified Beauty therapist couldn’t get a job anywhere because he didn’t have “the experience”, and was never given the opportunity to actually earn it. Another Gen Y fave, Yet I have been working in a supermarket for the last six (6) years. Read more »

 

As a member of ‘Generation Y’ I’ve come to grips with the various stereotypes and countless sledges that come our way.

Everyone loves to bag us. John Birmingham was even quoted to be “looking forward to seeing them get run over by the coming recession”.

So to any haters I have some bad news: the recession has had little negative impact on Generation Y at all.

In the immortal words of John Lennon, “Nothing’s gonna change my world”.

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  • Kelly says:

    12:23pm | 20/08/09

    Fantastic article =) It probably won’t be enough to keep the gen y basher’s at bay, but their misguided frustrations are their burden, not ours :o) Hold your head high fellow gen y - the generations before us were far from perfect. We have a lot of cleaning up to… Read more »

  • W says:

    03:41pm | 22/07/09

    Love it! Makes me want to be Gen Y. Read more »

 

Books are for old people

I borrowed my first book from the University library the other day. I realise that doesn’t really seem like a big deal but for me this momentous occasion becomes interesting because I am a third year student. In the three years I’ve been at Monash, I’ve not once borrowed a book until now. In fact, the only time I visit the library is to steal free wifi and there was that one time I forgot my notebook so I had to use the free computers to check Facebook.

But the reason I haven’t borrowed a book before is not because I’m a bad student. I mean, my grades are only average but I think that might have something to do with the number of hours I spend drinking instead of studying.

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  • Rachelle says:

    10:32pm | 22/01/10

    Im technacally an iGen or whatever you whant to call my age group. Im 16 and i read a lot and so do most of my friends. I do love fiction but if i can find a non fiction book i like i dont descriminate because its fact as a… Read more »

  • Ramiel says:

    02:46am | 06/06/09

    i like books; I’m just a few years older than you… but being part of the consumable species and a sucker, it’s not just for the nostalgia of feeling papercuts and smelling the bindings of the ol vintage… i want, i want, i want! i want to absorb info, i… Read more »

 

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