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When they hear that I don’t have a Facebook account or a Twitter page, some people look at me as if I’ve just announced that I want no part of some fundamental convention of society.

The reaction when Scott says he's not on Facebook

It’s the same reaction that I would get if I told them that I don’t own a pair of underpants or a toothbrush.

They look at me like I am some sort of commando-going, halitosis-suffering maniac who must be stopped for the sake of all mankind.

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  • Mikk says:

    01:26am | 11/03/10

    I find all this social networking stuff to be old hat. I spent years on IRC and got it all out of my system back then. I predict three or four years down the track most of you will have gotten over it as well and twatter and facile book… Read more »

  • Dave says:

    11:18pm | 10/03/10

    Twitter and Facebook are for morons with no lives pretending to have a life. I joined Facebook because a mate kept badgering me to get on and chat with some people we went to school with and I noticed that I must have had the luckiest graduating class of all… Read more »

 

Online memorials have been getting a bad rap lately, and in many ways, rightly so. The cruel comments posted on the Facebook memorial page for murdered Brisbane 12-year-old Elliott Fletcher are nothing short of repulsive.

A tribute doesn't need to be physical, it can exist in cyberspace too.

Even after the furore over the posting of pornographic images on Fletcher’ s site, insensitive and offensive comments persist. Amid good wishes to Elliott and his family, Matt Jackson has written on one Fletcher tribute page, “im famous, im on the world famous post hahahahaha hi mum im on tv lol.”

Scroll down. One of three “fan photos” at that page’s left shows Fletcher in life, grinning under tousled hair, with the words “Woot I’m [sic] dead” written over him in thick red marker.

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  • Cheri says:

    03:55pm | 12/03/10

    I don’t see what the big deal is about grieving online in a blog.  Most of these sites have to be found somehow, they are not just out there with a huge neon sign pointing the way.  In fact, I faithfully follow the Kristin’s blog for her daughter Peyton.  I… Read more »

  • caz says:

    08:46pm | 09/03/10

    Its fascinating that so many feel the right to slander online grieving sites. How about this: After my baby died, my blog became my refuge - more healing than any therapy or any conversation with someone who has never been there before. Judge it if you must, but until you’ve… Read more »

 

Public outrage over the shocking vandalism of internet tribute sites for two young Queenslanders who died in terrible circumstances has again raised questions over freedom online.

The Facebook page which claimed it would give back missing Queensland boy Daniel Morcombe

The worldwide web next month celebrates its 21st anniversary. It has grown from a single web page to more than a trillion unique pages and is expanding rapidly every day.

Social network sites such as Facebook, MySpace, Twitter and YouTube transformed the web from largely static pages under a website owner’s control into something more fluid, with people interacting on the websites to create content.

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  • Public Record says:

    11:10pm | 05/03/10

    Well, for interest here’s a comments moderation guide for a site The Punch likes. They use it, and it shows in the standard of discussion. A standard of guideline, and a standard of active moderation, that Punch readers can only dream of. http://larvatusprodeo.net/about-larvatus-prodeo/comments-policy/ Read more »

  • Anonymous says:

    06:51am | 04/03/10

    Boohoo…welcome to the internet.  No one here cares if you’re alive or dead. Read more »

 

The Punch has just left Facebook’s headquarters in San Francisco where the company sought to address the fallout from the controversy of tribute pages to dead minors being defaced with obscene content.

Following questions earlier this week from The Punch, Facebook’s global communications and policy director, Debbie Frost, told us the company was sending a letter to Queensland Premier Anna Bligh apologising for the incident and addressing the Premier’s letter of concern sent to the social networking giant this week.

Frost said the incident was unprecedented in her time at Facebook, adding it was difficult to fathom how people would decide to attack memorial pages in this way.

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  • Gary says:

    02:09pm | 02/03/10

    Yep, Click “Report this photo”. Read, Comprehend! Why should they have a 24hr telephone operator? call the cops if thats not good enough. geez Read more »

  • Trish says:

    02:05pm | 02/03/10

    Shar the emergency contact is the police. If an illegal act is committed you call the police.If someone sends you child porn in the mail or a death threat you call the police, not your postie. When crimes are committed it is the only agency that we as a community… Read more »

 

As a new recruit to Facebook, I admit I was not exactly on the first-wave of the online social networking phenomena. It’s not that I’m a techo-phobe by any measure (my blackberry is a constant companion).

Just a few of Michael Jackson's nearest and dearest.

It’s just that I am not entirely convinced that the addition of a Facebook page will enhance either my work or personal lives.  And the thing is, in this job, the two are often inextricably linked. MPs are public figures - albeit very minor ones. And - after sharing weekends, evenings and most waking hours with either my local constituents, my parliamentary colleagues,  Industry groups and stakeholders within my shadow portfolio responsibilities -  I’d kinda like to keep a little bit of me just for my nearest and dearest.

Call me old fashioned (and I’m sure many of you will) but I prefer to share my personal trials, triumphs and trivia with those I am closest to, rather than the-acquaintance-of-an-acquaintance who I met once at a function and who has now requested to be my “friend”.

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  • saferty1st says:

    02:28pm | 28/02/10

    One of those ‘unneeded’ crosses marks the spot where a young boy was killed on his bike. It is just near a school crossing and serves two very valuable services. Firstly, most locals know of the family and are respectful to their loss; and secondly children pay a hell of… Read more »

  • Jones says:

    02:23pm | 28/02/10

    You just proved the point, Eric. Read more »

 

Considering the complex cloak and dagger diplomacy surrounding US-Iran relations deputy US State Department Spokesman Robert Duguid comes out with a pretty open account of how and why the State Department asked Twitter not to close down during the post-election uprising in Iran. 

Images such as this were brought to the world by Iranian citizens online.

“We don’t have anyone on the ground in Iran; we haven’t since our hostages were set free in 1981. So for us just knowing the information was coming out that this real information, or at least piecemeal information that you knew was happening on the day was important,” Mr Duguid told The Punch from Washington.

“It was also evident to us that without social media being available that those groups who were opposing the crackdown and opposing the election results would not have a voice. So yes we learnt that Twitter was going to go down for maintenance. So we talked about it upstairs at the public affairs section, and one of our number knew the folks at Twitter.”

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  • The flip side says:

    03:59pm | 26/02/10

    Your statement [But the logical flipside to the positive PR is that if you’re going to open up social media as a form of intelligence gathering – as was the case in Iran – you best expect counter- intelligence and espionage].  This is a fair call made by you.  The… Read more »

  • stephen says:

    02:33pm | 26/02/10

    No problem there Leo. Mr. whats-his-name from Iran has despatched -according to the Australian - loyal anti - US followers to Iraq to influence their elections. What goes around comes around. Read more »

 

Update 7am: Despite the company’s statement yesterday, Queensland Premier Anna Bligh and federal Communications Minister Stephen Conroy say Facebook needs to explain itself. The Punch is still awaiting a response to its questions put to Facebook’s press office.

Update 4.45pm Wednesday: Today there are at least two groups live on Facebook - one of which has over 3400 members - calling for the death of the man accused of Trinity Bates’s murder. If this happened in a newspaper or on a major news website the editor would be at risk of going to jail.

Update Wednesday 2.45pm : Facebook has published a statement about obscene content on the tribute pages to Elliott Fletcher and Trinity Bates on its website. It is printed in full below. We’re yet to hear from them.

Facebook’s statement:

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  • Garry L. says:

    03:57pm | 26/02/10

    120 million users? Where have you been? It’s more like 400 million, so they say. Though if you were to take out all the fake accounts, bogus celebrity profiles and those ‘second’ accounts people may have, yeah, it’s probably more like 120 million actual people use Facebook. Read more »

  • Lynne says:

    01:38pm | 26/02/10

    I must confess that I use Facebook all the time to keep in touch with family and friends and have joined various interest groups.  But I stand by my position that a large number of Facebook pages do indeed, infringe upon laws both in their home state of California and… Read more »

 

IF you’ve been following the tech media this week, you’ll know that Google is in hot water over one of the most serious privacy breaches in its history.

Informer, icky bom bom yea.

You’ll likely have heard that Google launched a new product, called Google Buzz,  that was meant to create a social network out of its email users.

And that major privacy flaws in the product led to abusive men getting access to the details of their ex wives, political activists finding their contacts made public for investigators to peruse and journalists having their sources “outed”. I’m one of those journalists.

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  • A S says:

    06:16pm | 19/02/10

    Am I the only one seeing the b.s in this article? The content of this article directly contradicts the headline. This writer is just one more guy trying to get some publicity out of this issue. If you actually read this article, this is what it says: “I am relatively… Read more »

  • stephen says:

    07:34pm | 16/02/10

    The difference between Microsoft and Google is that they both want to exploit you (hey this is capitalism, right?) but only Microsoft seems compelled to torture you along the way. Surely the whole world knows that they only used ‘Don’t Be Evil’ because ‘Don’t Be Microsoft’ would have led to… Read more »

 

Another week, another internet service that needs joining to see what the hype’s about. The web was supposed to make life easier, but all it seems to be doing lately is inventing more ways to bombard people with babble.

That Apple guy doing what appears to be some kind of iPad puppet show.

Google Buzz‘s launch last week was wrapped in an increasingly familiar aura. As with the iPad launch, there was huge excitement from some nerdy types but a resounding verdict from much of the public has been a sigh and a shrug.

Instead of capitalising on excitement, new products have to overcome fatigue. There’s the effort setting up yet another profile, then somehow remembering to check back on it in between reading the news, monitoring tweets, Facebook status updates, doing the footy tipping, watching that Hitler video everyone’s talking about and getting to your reading recommendations all while trying to manage your phone and email inbox.

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  • Adam Dennis says:

    11:35pm | 15/02/10

    I say that @Regulator is right on the money. Personally I think Buzz has left its run too late - maybe Google should concentrate on a couple of core things; get Wave right before confusing us further. Colgo, have to take issue with “As with the iPad launch, there was… Read more »

  • Regulator 09 says:

    04:54pm | 15/02/10

    I think we are staring at the next dot com bust. Except this time it will be a social networking bust. It started out with facebook and myspace, then a growing tide of others. Eventually the sorts of things mentioned in the article will indeed happen and all the newtoks… Read more »

 

It’s Thursday @ The Punch

Facebook was founded by Mark Zuckerberg today in 2004.

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  • Shane From Melbourne says:

    10:31am | 04/02/10

    Australian politics depresses me. You can talk about the environment, just don’t mention nuclear power plants or electric cars. You can talk about immigration, just don’t mention overpopulation. You can talk about future health budget blowouts, just don’t mention euthanasia. You can talk about defence, just don’t mention strategic weapons… Read more »

  • fluffy says:

    09:58am | 04/02/10

    his eyes are too close together..  dont trust him. also if you rearrange the letters of his name..  Mark Elliot Zuckerberg… you get .. “zig clerk troublemaker!”  a clerk who makes sharp turns to cause TROUBLE!!!! Read more »

 

There have been a few additions to the site you might like to know about.

You'll find us at www.facebook.com/thepunchcomau

Want to take up a reader’s point directly with them? You can now reply directly to them by clicking the “Reply” icon at the foot of each comment.

The Punch also now has a Facebook page, where there’ll be occasional updates during the day. Just log in to Facebook, browse to the Punch Facebook page, and hit the “Become a fan” button. You might even get to know other fans of the site through it.

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  • Brendan says:

    10:50pm | 03/02/10

    Thanks for a great and improving site. Read more »

 

Perhaps the elite all-male college at Sydney University, St Paul’s, needs to get some rugby league players to talk to its members about respecting women.

Gothic: St Paul's college in Sydney University

The ranks of the elite who would decry league players as “boofheads” and would have been most vocally repulsed by the exposure of player attitudes to the opposite sex have been revealed as nurturing a virtually identical culture of the sexual objectification of women.

Rugby league teams aren’t known for being overrun with players who are also top-flight academics but they could probably teach the boys at St Paul’s a thing or two. The students are supposed to be high achievers but for outright misogyny it’s pretty hard to beat setting up a Facebook group that basically endorses rape.

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  • Tom says:

    06:55pm | 11/11/09

    So these days setting up a crassly named football team is tantamount to rape? And when people figure that it was a football team, not a pro - rape site (besides, do you really think anyone would be stupid enough to publish such views on Facebook, if they were to… Read more »

  • alex says:

    06:58pm | 10/11/09

    tall poppy much? Read more »

 

What’s your barometer for keeping things in perspective?

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For the past four months or so for me, it’s been Facebook.

Not because of the constant status updates (from the witty to the mundane) or the pictures of new babies, houses, holidays or parties. 

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  • Kate says:

    04:30pm | 27/10/09

    @Regina - I’m sorry that you are going through a hard time after the loss of your sister. If I could offer any advice though, it would be not to retreat from places like facebook and other ways of communicating with friends. It’s understandable that you are feeling upset and… Read more »

  • Nate H says:

    08:19pm | 26/10/09

    That was a great read, thanks Lucy. I also found a similar comfort in Andrew’s regular FB updates. He will be greatly missed. Read more »

 

I still remember exactly where I was when I found out both my parents had passed away. I remember every smell, every colour and I remember exactly what I was thinking as if it was just yesterday.

Connecting people, sometimes with consequences

It’s a horrible thing learning someone you love has died, and I still am completely in awe of those who passed on the news, and provided the support and care I needed at the time.

Today news broke of a Western Australian family who yesterday learned their daughter had died in a car crash via a Facebook post.

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  • James says:

    04:45pm | 24/10/09

    @ Julie Coker-Godson Seriously? You think the admin team on a website that hosts millions of profiles is going to be trawling through every post to see if it’s insensitive? Get a grip. @ Lanai Vasek You have good intentions, I’m sure, but what you’re proposing is not only illogical… Read more »

  • Alice says:

    09:39pm | 11/10/09

    I don’t think anyone would intentionally facebook the news of someone’s death, realising that the family members and those closest to the individual involved didn’t know already. how are you meant to regulate something like that? facebook management can’t possibly monitor every single wall post or message that is sent… Read more »

 

This simple graphic illustrates one way the internet can be used to get an insight into a person, by analysing publicly available information associated with a name. I’ve chosen, for no particular reason, Opposition Leader Malcolm Turnbull. Through the rest of this post are similar profiles of a range of Australian public identities.

Turnbull: Digital profile heavy on politics, management

You can enter your own details into the Personas tool here. If you feel uncomfortable watching the process of this tool scouring the web for information about you, that’s the idea. It was designed to show you have a publicly available profile which you cannot control.

Developed by the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, it’s intended to highlight not just how you are seen on the web, but “for the viewer to reflect on our current and future world, where digital histories are as important if not more important than oral histories.”

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  • Heather says:

    01:50pm | 22/09/09

    There’s a lot of people out there with my name, but way more interesting lives, maybe even the preacher? Read more »

  • regina says:

    10:02pm | 21/09/09

    oh dear i tried my real name and my alias, and the alias was far more impressive in her achievements than the real me who only seemed to score high on ‘illegal’. so what that’s all about? Read more »

 

It was shortly before my wedding. As I assume others do, I spent some time examining my life. Amidst the consideration of my health, my career and my relationship came a question.

The final step

What are you doing on Facebook?

There must be people who find Facebook fulfilling, just as there are people who enjoy discussing Kanye West’s latest rant or actually believe the man has a talent for making anything other than a tit of himself. I just happen not to be one of them.

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  • Chris Cox says:

    11:55am | 22/12/09

    You missed the most important part of your article—please add an update giving the path line to where Fbook Beacon is stored on the user’s computer.  TIA. Read more »

  • Jason says:

    09:22pm | 22/09/09

    So let me see - you have clearly never deleted cookies or private data from your (probably out of date) browser and yet you write a blog about problems deleting personal data ONLINE?  You can’t even manage your local personal data.  On your own computer!  As a technical specialist of… Read more »

 

Earlier this month I spoke at a social media conference in Melbourne. When you wear a badge that says you work for Rupert Murdoch at these events, it’s like sitting in the middle of the Collingwood cheer squad in a Carlton jumper. With some people the best you can hope for is that their initial horror will eventually subside to a mild hostility.

The Not Ted Kennedy newsfeed site on Twitter: every tweet contains a link to a mainstream news outlet.

I was there to speak about strategy for social media, including Twitter, which The Punch has engaged to a fair degree of success. It is second only to the mighty Google in terms of the number of readers it helps the site reach. My presentation was on using social networks to connect with people.

The Social Media Summit 2009 came just days after the announcement that News Corporation planned to charge for access to its websites. It was the hottest topic of conversation in the wings and with the exception of one or two people, the view among the delegates was that it wasn’t going to work.

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  • h says:

    11:23am | 01/09/09

    @eric: OK, so you’re going to go and dig around on the net. You’ll find any number of versions of the story and plenty will seem plausible. Several are mutually exclusive and none of your personal contacts knows anything about it at all. How do you verify your sources? Curious… Read more »

  • Rob says:

    01:17am | 01/09/09

    So does this mean the end of televised news on free-to-air television as well?  Why should users (who, by the way usually have to pay for access to the Internet) have to pay for news when it is broadcast in virtually every country in the world on free-to-air (supported by… Read more »

 

My family is under strict instructions that if I’m ever kidnapped by Guatemalan rebels (it could happen), am the first victim in a global pandemic that started with domestic animals or become in anyway incapacitated in a newsworthy way they’re to distribute three flattering photographs of me to any media outlet that wants them as soon as the news breaks.

Jason Scorer, who died in Rome this week

Its a long standing fact that if you die overseas of something other than natural causes, are part of a public tragedy, or just can’t speak for yourself after something really weird happens, newspapers, websites and TV stations are going to scramble for any picture of you they can get your hands on.

If all that’s on offer is some Facebook pics of you throwing up in a garbage bin at Schoolies Week - well so be it. Five years ago the chances of a picture like this one of Jason Scorer, who died in Rome after falling into the Tiber this week, ever seeing the light of day in the mainstream media were minimal.

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  • Joe says:

    06:23pm | 20/01/10

    On which Italian site was a post mortem photograph of this man shown? Read more »

  • Charlie says:

    04:32pm | 29/08/09

    The way News Ltd has been laying off journalists to try and stem the massive financial bleeding from such inspired decisions as to pay top dollar for the Wall Street Journal (now worth about half what was paid for it), it is hardly any wonder they don’t have anyone to… Read more »

 

I am a social media whore. That’s the point of it all right? There’s a lot you can know about me from what music I listen to, what concerts I’ve been to and yes, even occasionally what I just ate.

Logging on your life: Do you know what you're agreeing to?

There’s even a 12 second video somewhere of me dancing in a tutu to What a Feeling by Irene Cara.  All of which I chose to share across a number of social networks I belong to that include Blip.fm, Twitter and 12seconds.tv and I’m comfortable with that.

And then there’s Facebook.

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  • bob peters says:

    05:48pm | 09/01/10

    just flame every blog and use aliases for facebook type accounts.. if they’re not safe and secure then why use them ??? just use them for fun as i do.. and nothing they store as data is remotely accurate thus unusable to them and will also bugger up their statistics… Read more »

  • May says:

    11:31am | 17/09/09

    @papachango It depends on their album settings - folk who set their profile to private may not have done so for their photos also (perhaps thinking they don’t have to) , and then once you have a link to one photo, you will be able to see the whole album… Read more »

 

I’m addicted to Facebook. It’s not uncommon for me tie a piece of elastic around my arm and shoot up a dose of the online social network eleven or twelves times a day.

Sorry Timmy - you didn't update your Facebook details so your birthday didn't happen.

Even when I’m not actively stalking someone or randomly updating my status, Facebook is constantly idle in the background, ready for someone to start up a Facebook Chat conversation.

There are now 6.7 million Australians on Facebook, although you’ll have to take my word on that. I’m just a blogger and not a real journalist so I didn’t do any research on that statistic, I just asked Twitter.

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  • Nick says:

    07:36pm | 12/08/09

    @Zeta, so, they have my details? Now what? I’ll be very surprised if Jobs/Murdoch/mysterious Russian turns up at my door because they disagree with my political view or don’t like my profile pic. You’re also incorrect in suggesting that MySpace was a “first gen” social networking site. They’ve been around… Read more »

  • Lexi says:

    04:02pm | 12/08/09

    @Toddzilla - I only have FB friends who I know and care for.  No fear of sabre-tooth tigers, or anything else much.  What do you know, I’m sure plenty of people who don’t blog think those of us who share our opinions with those we don’t know to be rather… Read more »

 

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The internet is probably the best beach in the world to go for a surf. It’s the reason I spend more than ten hours a day on the computer, at least eleven if you include my iPhone.

It’s not just the great weather, the rad waves and the cool surfers you meet, in fact there are too many reasons why the internet is awesome to talk about here.

But one of the more interesting ones that’s emerged lately is the concept of collaboration. And not just any collaboration, because that’s been around for ages. But this idea of people who have very little in common, have no prior knowledge of each other and in some case even remaining anonymous, coming together and working together.

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