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It should be a great time to be a Green: a first term Labor Government governing from the centre; the defining local and international issue is an environmental one; our lives are being buffeted by one extreme weather event after another.

Not easy boosting the green vote as the major parties brawl over climate.

2010 is a crunch year for the third force in Australian politics and, for many, the great hope of progressive change, with a federal election beckoning, the dream of controlling the Senate is looming large

But something is not happening for the Greens right now: despite growing disillusionment in the Labor Government, their vote is flat-lining in major polls and it is twice as ‘soft’ as the two major parties. We asked voters how strong their voting intention was, and these were the results.

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  • Kevin says:

    05:10pm | 07/03/10

    James, I took your advice and offered $20K for a prime beach front site in Noosa. For some reason, the vendors were laughing at me. You’d think they would be keen to get rid of it, seeing as your science is predicting catastrophic sea-level rises. Care to show me some… Read more »

  • Tom says:

    05:03pm | 03/03/10

    That depends on what your vision of being Green actually is. If you look at the most successful green country, Germany, being green is about efficiency and building a sustainable economy.  After the opec price hike they wanted an economy and society that wasn’t reliant on other countries resources. Green… Read more »

 

It’s fairly clear to anyone who watched Kevin Rudd on the ABC’s Q & A this week that a group of young Australians very succinctly exposed the shallowness and symbolism that underpins much of Labor’s “policy” argument. 

Kevin Rudd gets caned by students on ABC's Q & A. Picture: supplied.

These young people displayed a healthy scepticism and an ability to see through polly-speak that many of our national journalists could learn a thing or two from. Indeed, in the aftermath, some journalists seem almost shocked by Rudd’s inability to clearly answer a question which isn’t scripted and for which he has not been briefed. 

(Despite the embarrassing prelude of the “Ask the PM” Sunrise questions, which saw Rudd floundering.)

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  • ssi says:

    09:10pm | 13/02/10

    What on earth for? Malcolm ‘goldman sachs’ Turnbull is nothing but a puppet for the banksters. Crossing the floor just shows what egomaniac he is. Rudd is quite enough ego and narcissism. Read more »

  • Over Rudd-Speak says:

    08:58pm | 13/02/10

    So you’re saying Krudd IS crap? I agree. Can’t wait for an unscripted debate between Abbott and Krudd. KRudd will have to brush up on his ‘Not being such a sh!t PM’ skills. Read more »

 

The head of the UN’s climate change panel (the IPCC) Rajendra Pachauri has released a novel that combines lessons on climate change with sexy story lines.

The IPCC's Rajendra Pachauri, activist, writer, lover.

The protagonist in Pachauri’s book is eerily similar to Pachauri himself: an environmentalist and former engineer who inexplicably has a lot of sex with women (I can’t say whether the last part as any basis in reality). According to The Times the book: “mingles lectures on climate change with descriptions of Sanjay’s sexual encounters, including frequent references to “voluptuous breasts”.

Following last week’s visit from the Skeptic Dark Lord Mockton (who looks and sounds like an evil mastermind from a new climate themed Bond film) I can’t help but wonder if some of the increasing confusion about climate change stems from the eccentric oddballs who we’re told to believe.

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  • KD says:

    04:53pm | 13/02/10

    Seriously, its not a hard choice! All I need to decide on is 2 things about Global Warming 1.  Is there enough evidence that GW is real?     *For me…Most of the science says yes. 2.  Who’s going to pay for it ?  Both have the same 5% target.… Read more »

  • Mr Subramanian says:

    01:17pm | 10/02/10

    “Perhaps this is why we’re drawn to the loudest and wackiest in climate change debate, because considered and moderate explanation of a complex topic would be, well, quite boring.” Well, duh! Although “we” is perhaps just slightly more applicable to the journalists and media type folks amongst “us”... Read more »

 

Well it won’t have the same political impact as the Hewson birthday cake answer in 1993 but it was almost as unintelligible. 

It’s likely to go under the radar today with the Opposition releasing their own carbon reduction policy, but if anyone saw Kevin Rudd’s interview on the Today show this morning you’ll know what I’m talking about.

Asked by Karl Stefanovic how the ETS would affect the price of a loaf of bread, milk and petrol the Prime Minister managed to mangle all three answers.

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  • Phil says:

    10:26am | 03/02/10

    Glen If they were fair dinkum they would release all info. This issue is likely to either defeat him or have him elected again. If he thought it would help him he would release it, no doubt about it. But the future modelling will worry many when the price goes… Read more »

  • Glen says:

    10:21am | 03/02/10

    I appreciate that Matt, but I don’t expect the PM to do that modelling himself or be across every line of detail Read more »

 

Climate scepticism is all the rage these days and it’s become very fashionable to doubt the scientists and suspect global fraud.

Sceptics blind to a potential apocalypse. Photo: AP

The sceptics will denounce mainstream opinion for attempting to supposedly silence them, all the while loudly denouncing their opponents on talkback radio, the internet and mainstream press. They criticise minor errors in massive reports and loudly attack sloppy emails, but they play fast and loose with the facts themselves.

Sceptics are rarely accountable for their statements on temperature, on climate or carbon dioxide levels, preferring instead to rely on unsophisticated arguments like ‘it’s crap’.

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  • eye4aneye says:

    07:40pm | 09/02/10

    To much LSD in the 60’s huh hippy? Sounds like your a fan of Fritzl’s dungeon life style Read more »

  • Munroe says:

    03:53pm | 09/02/10

    James, I guess you live in the walled garden of the ABC and SMH. Go exploring! You will learn that in the past two months, the IPCC has become mired in scandal. They’ve admitted to including erroneous data; they are being investigated for scientific corruption and have been found to… Read more »

 

Our American friends remember The Alamo, we see Gallipoli and North Africa among defining moments in national pride and self-sacrifice against seemingly insurmountable odds.

Viv Forbes, rallying the troops

These initial bloody defeats led state and nations on to ultimate victory against powerful foes.

It’s drawing a long bow to compare any of those to the political battle now being fought on global warming, but one prominent climate realist has done that, and it’s sure to grab some attention.

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  • Carl Palmer says:

    12:44pm | 04/02/10

    @Rachel says:02:04pm | 31/01/10 Thanks Rachel, agree with Wayne,  big read but very worthwhile. Very scarey indeed Read more »

  • Carl Palmer says:

    12:01pm | 04/02/10

    @ Mark Duchamp says:03:47am | 31/01/10 Thank you. You are spot on. The only problem now is to get others to understand “the Agenda”. Read more »

 

In a move reminiscent of John Howard’s “headland” speeches ahead of his successful 1996 campaign, Opposition Leader Tony Abbott last night delivered the first of his direction statements ahead of this year’s poll. And he adopted a decidedly green hue, saying it was time to scotch the misnomer that conservatives could not be good environmentalists.

Abbott says environment a vote-changing issue in this year's election.

The speech contained two policies - the national takeover of the Murray-Darling river system and the creation of a so-called 15,000-strong “Green Army”  - and a promise of more to follow, with Abbott conceding he did not yet have a finalised position on carbon emissions but would do so within the fortnight.

The first policy should have Kevin Rudd worried as if he had been acting as a decisive national leader he would already have stepped in to wrest control of our biggest river system off the squabbling states. The second policy seems more a bit of gimmickry - and expensive gimmickry at that, with a potential bill of up to $750 million to send 15,000 environmental fix-up folks into the bush at $50,000 a pop.

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  • Evan Findlay says:

    11:44pm | 22/01/10

    Radical chick, do your research. The green army was an idea brought out in the nineties by Abbott when he was a secretary for Amanda Vanstone. Hardly fresh! Read more »

  • Timmo says:

    05:33am | 19/01/10

    I suggested in a previous blog which was not included here that instead of interfering more in what little bit of nature we have left, that we might embark on a rather grand plan of greening the centre of Australia by building a canal large enough to bring ships from… Read more »

 

Whatever happened to the grand promoter of the great big ETS tax – Prime Minister Rudd?  Channel 9 said it cost $1.4 million to take 68 people to Copenhagen.

Rudd sails in the sunset: Garrett goes solo over Copenhagen.

What was the cost of the remainder of the 114 that actually went?

Up to Copenhagen the great tax advocates were Mr Rudd and Senator Wong who have suddenly gone very quiet and given all the running to junior Minister Peter Garrett.

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  • guenstiges hotel says:

    09:11am | 25/02/10

    Factor Officer,break accept eat now church chain early cry moment factory asset relevant narrow pub drawing survey overall regulation definition performance divide play revolution buy leadership weight build connect spring standard sentence previously need else pupil commitment publication job priority relative aid rare general speech route environment forest truth floor… Read more »

  • persephone says:

    10:57am | 13/01/10

    Roberto and haven’t we had a lot of ‘the coldest this, the hottest that’ in recent years? That’s the whole point - once upon a time, these extreme climate events were dotted out through the years, with one excepitional event not matched for decades. Now we have extreme events occuring… Read more »

 

Copenhagen certainly was the right place to hold the biggest cocktail party of the 21st century - otherwise known as the Climate Summit.

After all it was the home of Hans Christian Andersen who wrote “The Emperor’s New Clothes” in 1837.  It is truly a suitable parable.

Illustration: Nicholson

In the story we had swindlers posing as weavers and convincing the Emperor that they could “manufacture the finest cloth to be imagined ……but the clothes made of their material possessed the wonderful quality of being invisible to any man who was unfit for his office or unpardonably stupid.”

The swindlers in the Andersen Tale demanded large sums of money in advance and asked for (and got) “the finest silk and the most precious gold cloth” and worked at empty looms until late at night.

In Copenhagen the attendees certainly got lots of money in advance and lived in great luxury.

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  • Shaun says:

    08:07pm | 02/01/10

    Lester, I have no emotional investment on Rudd being PM, so whatever befalls him doesn’t concern me. However, I do tend to prefer moderate, centrist governments that do their best to govern for all people. I think the majority of Australians feel that way, and I really would be surprised… Read more »

  • Johnno says:

    06:06pm | 02/01/10

    Industrial Relations:  Australia now has a system of true enterprise bargaining that is a model for the world. Labour relations over the past 30 years have managed to move from a system of cross enterprise unionism on the left and an individual contracts regime on the right to a true… Read more »

 

“Doth protest too much”. The ageless quote from Shakespeare’s Hamlet comes to mind when assessing world leaders response to the Copenhagen climate conference. 

It all looked so good for the cameras

Lashings of praise have been heaped upon the Copenhagen Accord from Obama, the Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao, Kevin Rudd and other world leaders.  It has been described as a “meaningful agreement”, “a great step forward” and “significant and positive”.

What would an agreement deserving of this kind of praise look like?  The world needs a comprehensive global response that will deliver a safe climate, that is a minimally change climatic system that can support humanity to meet our needs.

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  • Wilko says:

    09:21am | 29/12/09

    My first post and I’ll put my hand up as being a skeptic, yes, one of the few of us on the far fringes of society. Now being a skeptic doesn’t mean that I’m not for reducing general pollutants including carbon, if that is indeed a pollutant. Nor does being… Read more »

  • S.L says:

    05:48pm | 28/12/09

    @ Jarra I just read your “proof”(germanwatch) Tuvalu is sinking. Boy you guys cherrypick what you read!” They are claiming much land is flooding more now than ever before. Must be Global warming right! Well further down the article it mentions land has been cleared between 1970 and 1995 for… Read more »

 

The last month’s political twists and turns, culminating with the Liberal Party’s extraordinary lurch to the right and populist fear-mongering on the ETS “tax on everything”, make it look increasingly like Australia may never reach a political consensus on climate change.

Spot the pensioner

Adding fuel to the fire, after much of hype and high hopes Copenhagen fizzled, failing to deliver the binding international agreement which would have delivered a resounding mandate for Kevin Rudd’s proposed course of action.

Back at home, Tony Abbott’s fiery rhetoric has been starkly reminiscent of another political turning point in 2001, which involved a hapless group of refugees in a sinking boat. Just as the 2001 Tampa election hysteria was fuelled by political opportunism and the politics of fear, so too the response to climate change appears to be heading down the same path.

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  • Rod says:

    10:52am | 13/01/10

    We know that 14,000 to 16,000 years ago one could walk from mainland Australia to Tasmania, or I think I can claim this is accepted by all experts. It would be a challenging walk today. So if that massive change can occur in such a relatively short period…...of course we… Read more »

  • Passing wind says:

    11:06pm | 12/01/10

    Davido I never chopped down a tree, but I did dig a few holes from time to time to earn a living. Believe me, it wasn’t that easy. You write as though you are still in school? Don’t fret. Given time you will grow up to be an old fart,… Read more »

 

If anyone is looking forward to the Christmas break it must be Kevin Rudd. The Prime Minister who created a narrative about his administration that it’s the can-do team on climate change has had the two biggest ticket items, the ETS and Copenhagen, all but fall over in less than a month.

Illustration: Peter MacMullin

While neither were strictly his doing (he was in the US when Tony Abbott nabbed the Liberal leadership and killed off a deal on the ETS), the Prime Minister had placed himself at the centre of both, no doubt confident a victory on either would be a huge political win.

He calls the outcome of the closing days in Copenhagen “frustrating”. I imagine that’s just the tip of the melting iceberg for how he really feels. And now Mr Rudd needs to work out how to take an issue that until six weeks ago was a political bonus for him and stop it turning into a political nightmare. And he’d better do it quickly.

Tony Abbott wasted no time yesterday framing the debate from here on. He told Sunday Agenda: “Look, I suppose good intentions are better than nothing, but Mr Rudd has failed his own test. He said a couple of years ago that what we needed to get were real targets against real timelines.  He said, real progress means real targets against real timelines, and certainly by that standard it’s been a comprehensive failure.”

It was the words “his own test” that rammed home the point. At Copenhagen Kevin Rudd went from “friend of the chair” to the guy waiting outside the room when the three-page non-binding “meaningful” agreement was struck.

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  • Niki says:

    01:55pm | 05/02/10

    Joe , I , for one am glad Malcolm Turnbull has gone as Leader . He was just an extension of Kevin Rudd anyway . He sat in the Opposing seat not to give Opposition to the Government but to help the Rudd Government whilst breaking down the Coalition Party… Read more »

  • Joe says:

    11:44pm | 28/12/09

    Sorry about the spelling mistake Shaun. I notice that you have one in your first sentence, does that make us even? But lets not quibble over trivia. I have been a Labor voter all my life but I find that the direction the party is taking us is a long… Read more »

 

The collapse in Copenhagen shows the power of the polluters over the politicians.

Not chopping down these trees is a start.

The oil coal and big resource companies put off the day of action and edged the world further into super-heating.  That means worse drought, bushfires, snow- melt, tropical storm damage and accelerating sea level rises.

Penny Wong has blamed the failure to reach consensus in Copenhagen on a few “radical nations” like Venezuela and Uganda. But tiny Tuvalu has also championed real action on climate change by calling the promise of money, in return for agreement on inaction, “thirty silver coins” from the rich countries.

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  • Tony says:

    02:32pm | 04/01/10

    Unfortately the “Green” movement stopped being about the environment around 1990 and started off on some journey to looney left socialist nirvana about the same time. Just happened to be right after the fall of the Berlin wall eh Bob!. Ask the founders of Greenpeace what they think of the… Read more »

  • Tony says:

    02:32pm | 04/01/10

    Unfortately the “Green” movement stopped being about the environment around 1990 and started off on some journey to looney left socialist nirvana about the same time. Just happened to be right after the fall of the Berlin wall eh Bob!. Ask the founders of Greenpeace what they think of the… Read more »

 

It’s snowing here in Copenhagen, as leaders feel the heat over climate change.

No snow job: let's keep Copenhagen cold.

In the winter gloom, the flashing lights of police motorcades snake through the city. Is it Obama, Gordon Brown, or Kevin Rudd? It’s certainly not the President of the tiny, vulnerable Maldives, the shock troops of rising sea levels.

Walkouts by developing nations, angry clashes between protesters and police, people dressed as polar bears, Greenpeace ships moored in the canal not far from The Little Mermaid statue, business leaders selling wind power, electric vehicles, even shoes with recycled rubber soles.

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  • Davo says:

    04:49pm | 27/12/09

    Mike, I’m amazed you didn’t pick up on which Hans Anderson fairytale was floating about in the zeitgeist among all those snowflakes. Remember The Emperor’s New Clothes? AGW is the emperor, but where are his clothes? He’s going to catch his death of a cold. To put it another way,… Read more »

  • Uncle Buck says:

    08:48pm | 20/12/09

    Good on you Mike. What the desperate and deluded climate deniers don’t seem to realize is that there has been a massive shift within governments and business over the last few years. There is a growing momentum behind this, in spite of attempts by deniers and their pathetic attempts to… Read more »

 

Dylan fans will be familiar with the stream of consciousness liner notes on the back sleeve of Highway 61 Revisited where the Zimmer-man writes of Savage Rose and Fixable and the Cream Judge and the Clown, of Lifelessness saving the world, of the Phony Philosophers and the Beautiful Strangers.

I was compelled to re-read this unusual piece of writing this week after subbing an opinion piece written by Barnaby Joyce and have decided that if Dylan has a literary heir in this country it is the newly-installed shadow minister for finance.

Joyce has now written seven opinion pieces for our website The Punch and the marvellous thing about all of them is that you could buy a pack of Gitanes, slip into your skivvy and beret, and recite random passages aloud in a Soho coffee shop with Miles Davis’ Kind of Blue playing in the background, and the critics would hail you as the greatest beat poet since Ginsberg.

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  • Martin says:

    02:24pm | 15/12/09

    Here’s a test for Eric, Wayne Hutchins and other denialists - see if you can actually describe the way our climate system works, understand the concepts of radiative balance, radiative forcing, ocean-atmosphere coupling, non-linear systems and positive feedback loops. If you can’t give accurate descriptions of these concepts you have… Read more »

  • John A Neve says:

    11:33am | 15/12/09

    Wayne Hutchins @ 0652hrs. I “can’t do it”, I can’t do what Wayne? No claims have I made, unlike you and your mate Eric.  No name calling again like you and your mate. Your trouble Wayne, is that you are a follower not a thinker, I know, it hurts you… Read more »

 

While Kevin Rudd desperately reschedules his attendance at the Copenhagen Summit in a craven attempt to ensure he’s in the presence of US President Barack Obama, there are very interesting parallels in the political scenarios on either side of the Pacific.

Trouble at home: for Obama, it's healthcare. For Rudd, it's emissions trading.

These are two political leaders elected in almost Messiah-style euphoria.

Their elevation was supposed to ring in “change” after long periods of conservative Government that the elites and media had openly grown to loathe.  There was little public scrutiny of the substantive skills each man would bring to the job – their popularity was a triumph of style over substance.

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  • Humbug says:

    01:21pm | 17/12/09

    Slippery little sucker that D’oh, isn’t he? He’s repeatedly blundered. He’s repeatedly misrepresented good information. On costs, on timing, on carbon price and dates. He’s implied the info is hidden and needs digging for - though its all on the right, easy to find site. He’s even misrepresented what other… Read more »

  • D'oh says:

    06:53pm | 16/12/09

    @ Humbug: Ah, thanks for pointing out the ten year compensation period Humbug, I must confess I missed that.  However, none of the links you provided dispute the $40+/tonne cost of carbon beyond 2013.  Unless the government ammends that too, the $49b figure looks a little wanting. Read more »

 

IF climate change really represents a threat to our civilisation comparable to the Nazis than it is time for us to stop backing off in half-hearted surrender and instead tell Mother Nature to shove it.

That's the spirit: Humans have thrived on dominating their environment

Recently in arguing against the “disaster track” of a Copenhagen UN compromise agreement on reducing emissions, NASA scientist James Hansen - in many ways the granddaddy of climate change theory - said global warming should be treated like an evil enemy.

“This is analogous to the issue of slavery faced by Abraham Lincoln or the issue of Nazism faced by Winston Churchill,” Hansen said. How did Winston Churchill and more broadly the Allied powers defeat the Nazis and their Axis partners?

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  • James says:

    11:29am | 11/12/09

    Jeremy C Browne says:08:24am | 10/12/09 Why won’t Penny Wong admit that global warming has stopped?  Abbott asserted that yesterday but Wong had no opinion on that statement.  Is he right or wrong Penny? Because it hasn’t you nonce, look at the latest data Read more »

  • Jeremy C Browne says:

    08:24am | 10/12/09

    Why won’t Penny Wong admit that global warming has stopped?  Abbott asserted that yesterday but Wong had no opinion on that statement.  Is he right or wrong Penny? Read more »

 

Hardline conservative Christians helped orchestrate the flood of correspondence that convinced Liberal MPs to ditch support for Malcolm Turnbull and the emissions trading scheme.

Call to action: The Catch the Fire Ministries site

One site that published repeated calls for direct lobbying of politicians was Catch the Fire Ministries, a church whose pastor earlier this year said the Black Saturday bushfires were divine vengeance for liberal abortion laws.

It has also emerged that Cory Bernardi, one of the Liberal senators who led the revolt against Turnbull, called on supporters in late November to wage an email campaign to persuade his colleagues in the Senate that the public was outraged at the ETS. His email was published and endorsed by a website popular with fringe conspiracy theorists.

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  • Rocksteady says:

    01:59pm | 11/01/10

    All these skeptics seem to come out of nowhere when you tell them they have to pay more for electricity due to its detrimental effect on the environment for generations to come. Where are the skeptics on drug policy. Science is routinely thrown away for the sake of appeasing religious… Read more »

  • Mal S says:

    02:57am | 11/12/09

    Sir Bruce…So you like to believe people can’t write emails on their own or look up a parliamentary address on the web..And, Patrick, your papers are obviously the hypothesising dribble based on the East Anglia fraud, because the actual evidence would have converted you from your no so warming delusion.… Read more »

 

A lot of my comrades on the Left of politics are walking around as if the ascension of Tony Abbott is an early Christmas present, but I’m not so sure.

Banana republic: monarchist Tony Abbott campaigns for the no vote in the 1999 referendum.

While some see the rise of the Mad Monk as the Tory version of Latham’s 2004 election car crash, I think the risk is we are gearing up for a re-run of the 1999 Republic referendum.

That was the ballot where Abbott, as executive director of the ‘No’ vote managed to convince battlers to keep the Queen as Head of State because the alternative would be to have the nation run by a bunch of wankers - like Malcolm Turnbull. A decade later and the Left is still coming to terms with the anti-elite backlash that the Republic Referendum – and arguably the 2001 Tampa election – unleashed.

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  • Dave says:

    04:18am | 16/12/09

    Free straight-jackets for the Labor supporters. That’s a policy I’d support. Read more »

  • James says:

    09:50pm | 15/12/09

    Abbott is going to be a great Opposition leader.  Finally, we have someone who will hold Rudd to account. Rudd can spin all he likes, but if he keeps being asked direct questions the glass-jawed nerd is going to crumble. Abbott is Rudd’s nemesis and I think Rudd knows it. Read more »

 

Tony Abbott has rejected the dominant ETS paradigm. He says he wants, though, to re-balance business and household behaviour and incentives to move the economy to new, cleaner, climate adjustment technologies, but not cripple employment in key industries in the process.

Why punish business and taxpayers with a new tax when you could reward them instead for going green?

Here’s one suggestion – turn payroll taxes into ‘climate adjustment’ levies, at neutral total cost to business. Then expand business and household rebates on all expenditure on green technology – tax avoidance based on positive, environmental citizenship.

Instead of taxing jobs – always a stupid tax arrangement – treat carbon emissions as an externality and turn the tax into a levy, but allow people to neutralise this levy only through investment in emission reduction technology.

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  • Mark C says:

    08:53pm | 08/12/09

    How many of you feel the that voting for rudd was a supreme mistake? Hahahaha australia deserves whatever it gets from this con-job of a government. Answer the question penny - what are your non-taxation alternatives? Read more »

  • Harquebus says:

    03:49pm | 08/12/09

    We all pay the “need assistance” indirectly through our taxes. Ultimately, the consumer pays. I am at the bottom of the economic heap and would love the opportunity to save energy and sell my surplus to those energy munching plasmas.. Read more »

 

I arrived in Copenhagen, usually a pretty, peaceful Danish city on Thursday.  As the Copenhagen Climate Conference has approached – starting tomorrow morning – a tension has been building in the air.  It feels like the calm before a storm, when the wind begins to whip up and you can just feel something coming in the air. Walking around the city there are accents from across the world, posters displaying climate change events, protests and technologies, and groups of people closely discussing and speculating.

A papier-mache globe at a Copenhagen railway station heralds the climate summit. Picture: AP

Over the weekend I have been participating in the 3rd Annual Conference of Youth attended by approximately 1000 youth from over 150 countries. 

The youth movement has been growing exponentially over the last few years – in Australia the Australian Youth Climate Coalition has grown ten fold from 5000 to 50,000 in one year – and this is beginning to represented at the United Nations with a large youth presence at these negotiations. 

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  • Andrew says:

    11:50am | 10/12/09

    Vanessa:  you are dead right.  Overpolulation is the real prblem.  We should be able to rationally debate global warming etc, in fact we should be able to debate anything.  The problem is that there areloud groups ofpeple that grab the headlies and howl down anyoe that doesn’t agree with them. … Read more »

  • James says:

    09:44am | 10/12/09

    Keep it up, Amanda! Forget the peanut gallery in the comments; you guys are in the thick of it and have more important stuff to focus on :D Read more »

 

Australia, congratulations. We now boast a brand new opposition leader from the far-Right, who proudly declared, say, eight or nine times in a single interview on Tuesday that he would not support climate change legislation, terming it a ‘big new tax’ on the Australian people.

Surely a couple of centuries of this comes at a price.

So here we have the new political tactic of our Right- simple, snappy, and to the point- “that other lot want to TAX you!”

This tactic is nothing new, of course. Ben Chifley once observed that the Australian public ‘votes from the hip-pocket reflex’. The Right is simply banking that this is still the case.  Shrewd.

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  • Chandra Vikash says:

    11:33pm | 10/12/09

    Bob/ Nathan, are you sure, you responded to my mail? I never said present day India is any better than Australia. What I did suggest Like Paul and like you, I was born on a whole earth. Why would you shrink it to “your australia” and “my india”? 1. Incidentally,… Read more »

  • Nathan H says:

    03:31pm | 10/12/09

    Chandra Vikash, logic would dictate that you’re either mis-informed or disingenuous if you think Bishar is all beer ‘n’ skittles. “In a caste-ridden society fogged by illiteracy, superstition, dogmas, progress and development is elusive. As its cure, education specially female one has to be given priority.” “If people’s mental horizon… Read more »

 

Malcolm Turnbull has left no-one in any doubt as to what he thinks about today’s defeat of the ETS with a blog entry on his website saying the Liberals have damaged the national interest - and themselves - by blocking the legislation.

ETS defeat a very disappointing result, Turnbull has written on his blog.

It is a civil piece of writing, and in keeping with the position he doggedly stuck to this past week. But it has caught the attention of his party, which fears that Turnbull is so passionate about this issue that he could position himself as a booming voice of dissent from the backbench, keeeping the Liberals distracted and divided ahead of a poll fought over the ETS.

“Today the Senate rejected, for the second time, the Government’s emissions trading scheme legislation,” his entry began. “This is a very disappointing result, contrary to the national interest and the interest of the Liberal Party.”

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  • TSwain says:

    11:46am | 07/02/10

    Hey, I found your blog while searching on Google your post looks very interesting for me. I will add a backlink and bookmark your site. Keep up the good work! Read more »

  • Maam says:

    08:43pm | 07/12/09

    I wholeheartedly agree.  Turnbull is ‘the enemy within’.  He should take his red card and move over to the benches opposite and stop ‘whiteanting’ the Liberals. Turnbull, you lost!!!!! We won!!!!  Now shut up or quit.  You should have taken us along with you, not ridden roughshod over us.  How… Read more »

 

The current debate is not about the science of climate change.

Blinded by rhetoric: voters short-changed by the carbon tax debate.

The climate has always changed, it always will. At some level man must be contributing to it.  I strongly believe that reducing pollution can only be a good thing not only for the environment, but also for the Nation’s productive capacity and our kids’ future.

However the ‘debate’ over man-made global warming has now been hijacked by those who claim that if you are arguing against the Rudd Government’s Emission Trading Scheme then somehow you are arguing against the environment.

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  • Steve of Cornubia says:

    09:06am | 06/12/09

    As usual, contributions to this topic from Rudd’s blind sheep are mostly personal insults and attacks on the writer. Have any of you noticed how many times an event or speech organised by the conservatives is ambushed by demonstrators and loudmouths? How often does the reverse happen? It seems that… Read more »

  • Steve says:

    12:19am | 05/12/09

    Andrew, Why do you have such a burning desire to lead…Seriously mate. Put away the ruler and listen to yourself. You were probably the Kid that sat up the front of the class and tried to answer all teachers questions. Can you spell Probabilistic Specificity? Read more »

 

We gave Malcolm a lend of the Party, but the members want it back.

Malcolm Turnbull's first press conference as Opposition Leader in September last year, with the photos of past Liberal leaders on the Party Room wall.

This is the clear message I have received from Liberal Party members by way of 7,500 emails (and rising) and hundreds of phone calls – not to mention close encounters of the personal kind.

The claim that the Coalition Party Room agreed to support the Labor Party’s amended C.P.R.S. legislation imposing an E.T.S. Tax is not true. The Party Room rejected it.

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  • Definitely a Liberal member says:

    08:09pm | 03/12/09

    Marfa, are you sure you are a member?  You owe Liberal through and through an apology. I have been a member for more than double your length of time and I receive a card every year when I renew. Its called a receipt with perforations on it that you can… Read more »

  • DM says:

    12:58am | 02/12/09

    Oh dear…  Some (most) of the comments are dreadfully rude.  Thank goodness they are not Liberal members - we prefer to keep the rifff-aff at bay. Read more »

 

In order to help people better understand the last week, an anonymous Liberal front bencher has made available excerpts of their private diary to comedians Matt Kenneally Toby Halligan.

MONDAY 23/11/09 MORNING

Booked holiday flights to Hawaii for Friday evening.

Dear diary.

ETS bill before senate tomorrow. Still don’t understand it.

Air conditioning was playing up. Stood in front of fridge for a while and felt better.

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  • Patt says:

    09:51pm | 01/12/09

    Priceless. Finally the previous week makes sense. I think…. Read more »

  • Nickk says:

    10:36pm | 30/11/09

    “Nick explained that my view of the maths was wrong. He said no clear consensus exists on how to count the votes. Said he is a maths sceptic.” Funniest line I’ve seen on the Punch. Read more »

 

“Australia generates 1.5 per cent of global greenhouse emissions and this ETS will reduce world levels by the smallest sliver, which self-evidently will have nil effect on global climate whether you believe in climate warming or not.” Barnaby Joyce – The Innate Problems With Labor’s Emissions Trading Scheme, 17/12/2008.

No smoke without ambition? Picture: File

Using numbers to lend credibility to a flimsy argument is not a new tactic. In the case of those opposing serious action on climate change however, one statistic about Australia’s proportionate global emissions forms the central flimsy plank of their argument. The argument goes that given Australia is responsible for only 1.5% of global emissions, anything we do to reduce CO2 levels is hardly going to make a dent globally. We can’t save the Great Barrier Reef, so the rest of the world is going to have to.

It must test well in focus groups because everyone opposing action on climate change has been trotting it out ever since the debate began. And let’s be honest, as a message it is working.

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  • Jugger says:

    08:14pm | 03/12/09

    Margaret, You are pompous, ignorant, and you have no idea what you are talking about. Therefore the rest of your ‘argument’ is moot. Read more »

  • Bob says:

    03:49pm | 03/12/09

    I don’t get it. If plus 30 dollars per month as result of interest rate rise is such a huge issue and unbearable burden to all working families, how come plus 120 billion over 10 years is totally fine. ETS will cost at least 50 dollars per month for every… Read more »

 

IT is almost two months to the day since Malcolm Turnbull defiantly proclaimed he could not lead a party that failed to act on climate change.

Message not quite hitting the mark: Malcolm Turnbull

It could well be his epitaph because it looks increasingly likely they will be his famous last words. His war-like comments in a radio interview on October 1 will come back to haunt him tomorrow when a leadership challenge is expected to try to finally resolve the Liberal Party’s internal angst and division over the Emissions Trading Scheme.

Aside from internal manoeuvrings and mutinous rumblings within the party, the Liberals have a bigger problem. They are sending mixed signals to the electorate about where they stand on climate change and this is worse than death by a thousand swords for a party hoping to win Government at the next election.

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  • Joel B1 says:

    09:06pm | 30/11/09

    Hi, calmed down a bit here. But a person needs a mission in life and mine is stopping name-calling in the Oz-media. And just to clarify I don’t (that’s DO NOT) consider “ignorant selfish bunch of losers” name-calling. Nor “loser minority”. I don’t like those terms but in the rough… Read more »

  • Joel B1 says:

    03:39pm | 30/11/09

    Phil @08:42   “rightards” “rightards” is an extremely derogatory conjunction of “right” and “retard”. If the left can’t get their opinions across without resorting to name-calling then basically they shouldn’t. Read more »

 

THERE is a hilarious moment in the Hitchhikers’s Guide to the Galaxy when it is explained to one of the last remaining humans, Arthur Dent, that things are not what they seemed.

Shattering his life-long assumptions following the Earth’s destruction - that’s intergalactic progress - a higher being explains to the hapless Dent, that all those white mice in labs that humans thought were part of various experiments, were in fact, conducting an experiment on us. Humans were not as wise as they thought and now, their planet had been obliterated to make way for a hyperspace bypass.

I thought of this on two counts in recent days. First, there is the parallel with what Malcolm Turnbull, has been telling his troops: do nothing about climate change and the Earth as we know, will be destroyed.

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  • Geoff says:

    03:02pm | 30/11/09

    Yes, but the Earth and its ever changing climate have been around much, much longer. Read more »

  • iansand says:

    08:15pm | 29/11/09

    Charles - I forgot to mention your 200,000 years thing.  I hate to tell you, but the industrial revolution started about 250 years ago. Read more »

 

Australians expect their political leaders and their political parties to take effective action on climate change because it is an important issue for them and their children.

The Opposition has always had significant concerns with the Rudd Government’s CPRS legislation. That is why we fought for changes to the proposed scheme, to improve its design and protect Australian jobs.

As a result of the changes secured by the Opposition, tens of thousands of Australian jobs have been saved, farmers have been protected by permanently excluding agriculture from the scheme, $1.1 billion in direct support to small and medium businesses will be delivered, and the threat of blackouts and interruptions to the electricity supply has been removed.

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  • Carl Palmer says:

    03:53pm | 01/12/09

    Pop – I agree wholeheartedly with your comments. Vigilance is paramount and I’m sure that there are many valuable lessons that we could learn from other successful countries that are using nuclear power. France is a big user. I don’t think you are alone with your nuclear waste proposition, I… Read more »

  • Geoff says:

    09:00am | 01/12/09

    What a crock! Malcolm is hardly virtuous. He’s been spinning and lying for days.  He’ll catch up to Ruddy soon. The agreement was between malcolm and the party to enter into negotiations with the ALp on the ETS etc.  The agreement was that then the party would decide if to… Read more »

 

The honour of being elected as a member of the Federal Parliament carries with it very serious responsibilities.  Each of us are charged with seeking to do what is right, to listen to the views of our constituents, to represent the political parties that endorsed us, and ultimately determine what is in the nation’s interest. 

I cannot be part of this folly: Sophie Mirabella, one of seven Liberals who has quit Turnbull's frontbench over the CPRS.

My decision to resign from the Shadow Ministry yesterday is one I did not take lightly. I felt compelled to do so because I reached the conclusion that it is not in Australia’s interests to support Labor’s Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS). 

This is a position which was only strengthened by the fact that there was a clear majority in the Coalition Party Room in favour of voting against this legislation, despite what our leader concluded.

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  • Carl Palmer says:

    05:32pm | 30/11/09

    @DocBud says:02:47pm | 29/11/09 Thanks for that. Interestng read. Pretty much confirms the reaction I get when I ask someone if they know anything about AGW – ETS – CPRS. Read more »

  • Geoff says:

    03:55pm | 30/11/09

    oh dear…  in regards to Australia that “per capita” measure is useless and misleading. Firstly we have a large country and a small population compared with other countries. We are a first world country that is reasonably well developed. We rely heavily on Coal for Power and not Nuclear energy. … Read more »

 

The Liberals are currently staggering around the corridors in Parliament House like a bomb has gone off. In political terms it kind of has. The past 36 hours has smashed Malcolm Turnbull’s authority, failed to produce a viable alternative candidate for the leadership, transformed manageable differences of opinion into bitter personal hatreds, left the frontbench a mess with three resignations already and possibly more to come, not to mention a looming reshuffle just to add further fire to an already incendiary situation.

Malcolm Turnbull chats with frontbenchers Peter Dutton and Joe Hockey during Question Time today. Photo: Ray Strange.

Liberal MPs are openly talking about their sadness at the way the whole thing crashed around their ears. They are worried about their seats and had wanted one of two things to happen - to achieve a quiet consensus on a CPRS deal and to quietly pass the legislation, or for the talks with the Rudd Government to fail and to vote against it. Instead they have got open internal warfare.

Their biggest fear is how it will play out with traditional Liberal Party voters who cannot fathom the logic of what the party has done in embracing a lose-lose situation, whereby people who believe in climate change will give full credit to the Government for introducing a CPRS, while people who do not believe in climate change will punish the Opposition for backing it.

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  • Duke says:

    06:44pm | 26/11/09

    Jenifer there is no such thing as a left-wing bias in the media (just check out the major newpapers and primetime news shows for proof to the contary). If the government comes across favourably at all it is because it is the government - the media naturally focuses on the… Read more »

  • pc says:

    06:01pm | 26/11/09

    HI Dave Hi teens, I completely agree with Maryln and many of the other posters who have a new found respect for Malcolm Turnbull. Try telling the super sweet sixteen that “their parents have only tried to do whats best for them” and as sherlock has shown they just keep… Read more »

 

Last night Malcolm Turnbull announced his party’s support for the ETS bill with the resigned cheerfulness of a man who knows his days are numbered.

Next ...

He looked more like a defeated leader at the end of a campaign thanking his supporters than someone who had just prevailed over the Opposition old guard.

It was a pyrrhic victory and nothing he said could disguise that fact.

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  • Max says:

    07:10am | 29/11/09

    The conspiracy behind the Anthropogenic Global Warming myth has been suddenly exposed after a hacker broke into the computers at the University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit (aka CRU) and released 61 megabytes of confidential files onto the internet. (Hat tip: Watts Up With That) When you read some… Read more »

  • I said John Begone he went. says:

    08:59pm | 26/11/09

    I’m their leader, which way did they go? Sorry Malcolm, though you were up on the Sunday night you answered my emails, my advise to you now is: Look for a replacement and make sure Kevin and Abbott arent one of them. But you probably wont listen now. And I’m… Read more »

 

Malcolm Turnbull has retained his position as leader of the Liberal Party after winning a secret ballot on a motion to spill the leadership by 48-35. Punch editors will be posting the latest developments, commentary, pictures and video here as they come to hand. Times are AEDT. Refresh this page for updates.

4pm: Question Time over, the Libs limped their way through it the poor sods, they looked like a footy team that had just got thumped in the GF. Read our coverage of the day unfolded below. I will post a new piece later today wrapping up Turnbull’s two days of hell, and his future from here.

1.55pm: Time for Question Time. The Punch will be covering it live here - join in, should be fun.

1.50pm: Battered Libs limping their way towards chamber for QT. One MP just told me this is their equivalent of DLP split. Total and unabiding fury between the two camps. MPs also talking up hockey as best consensus candidate for leadership change in new year.

1.41pm: News round-ups of the events at the partyroom meeting now available at news.com.au and The Australian.

1.33pm: It’s certainly a better result than yesterday on the CPRS - but it won’t give Turnbull any security. Almost half the party still out to get him…

1.31pm: Joe Hockey speaking after the meeting. “Clearly this issue has done us incredible damage and I hope the Australian people forgive us…”. Emphasises the Liberal Party is a progressive party. Says given the mood of the party the 48-35 result was a good result for Turnbull.

1.29pm: It’s understood Joe Hockey was sounded out by the right for leadership on condition he opposed the CPRS. Said he’s not interested in starting his leadership career by selling his soul.

1.28pm: Kevin Andrews says he accepts the result of the ballot, but 35 is a significant number in the party room, which makes a strong point about the position on the CPRS. He says of Turnbull: “of course he has my support, he’s the leader of the party.”

1.23pm: No spill. Motion lost 48-35 in a secret ballot.

1.14pm: Cannot find a single Lib who is taking Kevin Andrews’ candidacy seriously or as a genuine threat. With Abbott not in the mix Turnbull shouldn’t get rolled.

1.13pm: Parliament security, at the request of the Opposition Leader’s office, are preventing journalists from congregating near the party room. Not sure why, as people inside the meeting will text developments to the press gallery anyway.

12.56pm: Samantha Maiden of The Australian writes on Twitter: turnbull has just walked into office with dep COS credlin. looks really upset

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  • orangecrush says:

    09:20pm | 28/11/09

    The fear-mongering here about the catastrophic effects of the ETS reminds me of something ...... oh, yes - the hysteria about the impact of the GST!!  I hated Labor when they used such a tactic - appealing to the uneducated who couldn’t calculate 10% of anything and small business’s fear… Read more »

  • Michael says:

    09:52am | 27/11/09

    Wow! I watch in total shock how the Republican Party in the USA has completely lost the plot and gone back to the 1950’s narrow-minded, religious extremist, Sarah Palin style thinking (if you can call what she does “thinking”). And now it’s happening here in Australia. The LIberal Party has… Read more »

 

HIS voice hoarse and breaking from arguing his case over 12 hours of solid meetings, a haggard Malcolm Turnbull declared “I’m the leader” six times last night at a defiant but probably futile press conference aimed at asserting his authority over a political party which is split almost exactly in half.

I have made the call: Turnbull and Ian Macfarlane at his press conference last night. Picture: Ray Strange

By the end of the press conference he looked like a doomed man, almost resigned to his likely demise as he faces betrayal by members of Shadow Cabinet, abandonment by the National Party, with almost half the party now canvassing a leadership spill as early as this Thursday - or protracted sniping ahead of his execution at a later date.

The press conference started in bullish fashion. Flanked by deputy leader Julie Bishop and chief climate negotiator Ian Macfarlane, Mr Turnbull declared he had won “overwhelming” party support for his deal with Kevin Rudd over the Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme.

Rubbish, rebel MPs were saying to reporters via SMS and in corridor chats, explaining that 40 MPs had spoken against the package and just 33 in favour - and that Mr Turnbull had inflated the numbers by arbitrarily including Shadow Cabinet in its entirety in the yes camp, getting him the paltriest possible majority at 47 to 46.

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  • John of Perh says:

    03:45pm | 26/11/09

    I am the Leader! No I am the Leader! I am the Leader! Stop it, who is talking to me? I am the Leader! No you are not, I am the Leader. I am sure I can hear voices. I am the Leader! Oh hi, it is you! My Dear… Read more »

  • Heléna says:

    11:18pm | 25/11/09

    there will be no deal in Copenhagen @Malcolm rules Read more »

 

UPDATE 8.20pm: Total chaos as meeting ends, set to resume at 8am tomorrow, strong talk that he will be challenged, massive press pack outside Party Room, Turnbull apparently has 41 MPs behind his ETS Plan and 33 against, MPs saying it is not a strong enough mandate to back the ETS, Turnbull has apparently blown up inside meeting, says nothing to press on way out. More to follow.

Update 8.15pm: Sky News reports the back bench vote actually came out 41-33 against the CPRS, but Turnbull declared with the shadow ministers he could get a majority in favour. According to David Speers he made this announcement while some Senators were outside the room. To say they’re unhappy is an understatement.

Update 8pm: Apparently the No vote disputes the party room numbers on the CPRS and are going to move a leadership spill. Kevin Andrews confirms he would put his hand up if the spill gets up.

Update 7.40pm: Malcolm Turnbull says he’s won the support he needs in the Coalition party room. But they’re reconvening at 8pm and there’s rumours of a leadership spill.

Update 5.10 pm: Perhaps not surprisingly Tuckey couldn’t get enough hands up for his motion.

Looking for divine intervention? Picture: Gary Ramage

Update 4.50pm: Wilson Tuckey has just moved for a spill of the leadership in the party room. The motion won’t get up without a majority show of hands. But it’s sure to make Malcolm Turnbull’s day just that much worse.

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  • Carl Palmer says:

    09:39am | 25/11/09

    Irrespective of what happens, Mr Turnbull is a dead man walking. Half his party supports him and half doesn’t. He can’t unite the coalition therefore he can’t lead the party. He should get out and give the gig to someone else. There is no point in continuing to be the… Read more »

  • Desert Rose says:

    07:23am | 25/11/09

    Oh please, S Mark. The Liberals went to the polls with an ETS, and theone on the table now is all but identical - a joint effort by both main parties. Result - clear madate. Got it now? If you won’t help, won’t try to think clearly, won’t bother to… Read more »

 

Update 10:55am: Shadow Cabinet signed off this morning on Malcolm Turnbull’s deal with the Government over the CPRS, and it is now being debated by the Coalition Party Room.

No. But he’s the Right Faction’s stalking horse should Malcolm Turnbull falter in his handling of the CPRS - which in the eyes of the more skeptical and conservative Libs he is already doing. And if there is a blow-up in the Party Room today, Kevin Andrews is expected to run for the leadership.

Kevin Andrews: may challenge Turnbull for the leadership today.

In what is looming as a chaotic and unpredictable day, the Right Faction is positioning itself to inflict a potentially mortal wound on Turnbull by moving a spill in protest at his excessive concessions over the carbon pollution reduction scheme.

Kevin Andrews is not the Right’s preferred candidate - but he is the one who has volunteered to go over the top on behalf of the party’s conservatives. He told SkyNews ominously yesterday that “At the moment we have a leader but I am a loyal servant of the party and I will do any job that I am asked to do,” Mr Andrews told Sky News.

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  • COF says:

    09:42am | 25/11/09

    Let’s be truthful here. Partisan or not, nice guy or not, Kevin Andrews just isn’t any good at selling. The Libs have got to cough up something better. Turnbull is better, as is Hockey, Robb, and most other viable options. To put Andrews up as an option suggests that they… Read more »

  • Dan says:

    11:56pm | 24/11/09

    Barb, ‘that doesn’t sound very inclusive.’ LOL. Are you serious? You’re against mass-immigration, atheism, multiculturalism, feminism and gay rights and you say that ‘if Andrews halts multiculturalism in Australia and focuses on Christian social values - he’ll win and rule for many years’ adn you accuse me of not being… Read more »

 

Today The Punch celebrates the ground-breaking policy work being undertaken by visionaries within the Coalition party room in an effort to address global warming.

Fun in Acapulco: less so, however, with global warming.

With 31 per cent of the population now signing on as climate change deniers these fine Australians are leading a national movement that can make us all feel better in the face of those flighty Nobel Prize winners who insist on preaching Armageddon.

In saving the planet by denying there’s a problem, the likes of Nick Minchin, Tony Abbott and Barnaby Joyce are contributing to a global body of work that has cured cancer, ended domestic violence and prevented the Holocaust.

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  • Carl Palmer says:

    11:29am | 25/11/09

    The interesting thing is this, with the cancer denial the deniers eventually disappeared / died. With the AGW denial the sceptics are growing and growing. More and more people are taking an interest. They are asking questions and in the process acquiring an understanding of what is being proposed. The… Read more »

  • Dan says:

    02:49am | 25/11/09

    Eric, so if I’m not a scientist, I should shut up, and if I am one, I can’t be trusted. Right. Yet again you show yourself to be oh so logical. You can believe that it’s a fraud, it’s a coverup, but if you do, you probably also believe that… Read more »

 

The Climate Justice Fast!, an international hunger strike for action on the climate crisis, is currently on day 17.

Look up!

Let’s be frank. Australia’s response to climate change so far is a disgrace. It is well understood, by even Kevin Rudd and Penny Wong, that the emissions reduction targets of the carbon pollution reduction scheme (CPRS) are scientifically inadequate to effectively respond to climate change.

Even if it’s maximum reduction target of 25% by 2020 is implemented, and other nations make similar efforts, atmospheric greenhouse gasses will still overshoot a safe level, very likely pushing us past tipping points that lock into place disastrous runaway climate change.

And once we take into account our world-beating per-capita emissions, combined with our chart-topping standard of living, our nation’s token efforts on climate change become simply impossible to justify.

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  • Nick says:

    09:19am | 28/11/09

    Good on you Paul! Keep going buddy. It seems a lot of people on this site have problems with the laws of thermodynamics! Read more »

  • Marcella Brassett says:

    03:40pm | 25/11/09

    Climate Justice Fast!  has drawn a line in the sand. Those who ‘choose’ to live solely for their own immediate gratification, guarding their little patches of air conditioned convinience stand on one side. Those who want to make the world a safer, happier, more equal place stand on the other.… Read more »

 

While there is a lot of heat surrounding the climate change debate, one issue that has received less public attention is the impact of global warming on our health.

The hotter it gets, the more pressure on the health system

Adelaide is currently experiencing a record breaking heatwave and has been on catastrophic fire danger alert, and this even is before summer has even begun. These events provide a timely reminder of the consequences of extreme weather on the health and safety of the population.

With global warming, inevitably we will suffer more heatwaves with longer and hotter summers. Australia - more than almost any other country- will be vulnerable to climate change-related illness and death.

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  • Lawence Edward Calcutt says:

    06:35pm | 02/02/10

    If you viewers and posters don´t like this gal, please oh please, send her to Canada. We have people here who can use her talants, We got big problems too and can use her. Read more »

  • Graham says:

    01:19am | 24/11/09

    Sweet Jesus! I am feel nothing but embarassment for this writer. People actually voted for this person? My teenage daughter could write a better piece than this load of garbage. How many people die from malaria every year Trish? You may find quite a lot, but most don’t have the… Read more »

 

UNLESS Malcolm Turnbull is Harry Houdini, he is about to join the likes of John Hewson as another `almost was’ wealthy businessman who promised much but ultimately could not manage the politics.

This man is in a more comfortable position than Malcolm Turnbull

Things could hardly have gone worse for him this week. Just when he had the Government under real pressure over its faltering management of the Oceanic Viking crisis, problems on his own side overwhelmed him. Next week looks harder again.

He must be wondering why he left a perfectly successful career in business for this. He may not be wondering for much longer.

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  • ROFL says:

    08:56am | 24/11/09

    Jeeze Louise!  All the media’s fault, eh Bruce. Sure it is, son. Sure it is. Read more »

  • Cameron says:

    01:13am | 23/11/09

    Kevin Rudd must sleep soundly at night, irrespective of which country he’s in. If a credible opposition could provide a real alternative to policy, if a credible opposition could offer a viable alternative to the Government full stop, then we might find Rudd at home more, we might find robust… Read more »

 

Momentum is a fundamental concept in both physics and politics.

Howler: Barnaby Joyce

It’s a concept climate change skeptics like Barnaby Joyce just don’t get.

As Penny Wong and Greg Combet shepherd the sensible people in the Australian Parliament towards a bipartisan agreement on a CPRS, Barnaby is still out there howling at the moon to his diehard audience of deniers.

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  • Winston Smith says:

    09:54am | 23/11/09

    There is so much puff and hot air in this article that one could argue that McKew has singlehandedly contributed to Global Warming.  I would expect a reduction in her primary vote at the next Election with such inane comments as “Barack Obama’s trip to China has seen the world’s… Read more »

  • JP says:

    09:40am | 23/11/09

    “Red and Green should never be seen.” Could be something to that old saying. Read more »

 

The introduction of the CPRS Bill or the ETS, whichever you choose to call it, is a mechanism where the Government will collect in excess of $70 billion tax revenue in the first six years and potentially hundreds of billions of dollars thereafter.

Even watching this will cost you money with the ETS

The commission earned by bankers and brokers will amount to multiple billions of dollars and the financial imperative for them to support the scheme is overwhelming.

This new tax will not save the Great Barrier Reef; it is not going to end the droughts; it will neither contribute to Greenland freezing nor thawing.

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  • Wayne Hutchins says:

    04:16pm | 23/11/09

    Don Clarke, why are nearly all your links .gov.au? Because you are a very selective person thats why! This fraud that they have attempted to push onto the Australian people has been endorsed by you over and over again. What a fool you will look like when the inevitable occurs… Read more »

  • Bethany says:

    01:29pm | 23/11/09

    Joel (2:27pm | 23/11/09) The hacked emails you refer to indeed demonstrate that there is bias, indeed, actual fraud, going on in the scientific commmunity. I’m sure you agree that this is deplorable. It does not, however, weaken the overwhelming scientific consensus that climate change is real, it is related… Read more »

 

The patrons leaning on the bar at bustling country pub Flannery’s and Gore were shocked when a wild-eyed man with a slide-rule in his pocket burst in the door.

Moments before the UN engineer showed up

The man leaps on the bar and shouts: “Everybody, this pub is about to collapse.

“I’m an engineer and I’ve just been looking at the walls outside - they’re about to give way.” In the stunned silence, some punters think they hear a faint creaking noise from the walls, but can’t be sure it’s just not the crickets.

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  • James says:

    05:00pm | 20/11/09

    Some Bonza bloke called Bazza, convinces everyone the engineer is a la-di-da type who has no clue what he is talking about and that he as someone who has sold utes in the part of the world for 10 years knows as a FACT, that the pub is solid as… Read more »

  • TLC says:

    04:29pm | 19/11/09

    They will never solve the problem as they have been drinking there for long and did not see any problem.Not only they are no profesional, but drunks. They will seat and drink and talk and talk nonsense as drunks do. They all die from liver disease, some end up in… Read more »

 

With another boat load of asylum seekers intercepted and reports there are at least 10 Coalition MPs vowing to cross the floor on the ETS there’s plenty happening in Federal Parliament. You can see our Question Time coverage after the jump.

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  • Paul says:

    05:45am | 18/11/09

    It’s pretty long. What I really want to decode from all the posturing is how the powerful coal companies etc are squeezing Rudd to get more profits out of the ETS? It’s ordinary people that are going to be nailed on this not the corporations right? Can you comment on… Read more »

  • U. Nerd says:

    05:49pm | 17/11/09

    I have slipped into uber nerd and have just had a quick read of the open thread after question time. Read more »

 

Are you feeling left right out of the political debate in Australia?

Massive fail: Rudd's ETS tweet was a sledge on every undecided Australian.

As the parliament prepares to consider the Rudd Government’s ETS and the global bureaucracy invades Copenhagen, I’m getting a little tired of the forced and clichéd polarisation of the climate change and other important debates, such as border protection.

The straw that broke the camel’s back was on Friday when #KRudd tweeted the world at 6.54pm saying “Time for the “do nothing” climate change skeptics (sic) to stop playing roulette with our kids future. KRudd.” It was one tweet too many. Seriously, what a silly and juvenile thing for a PM to say.

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  • Rebecca says:

    02:10am | 20/11/09

    Climate Change is going to happen.  I’m a sceptic of the ‘climate change movement’ - however, to the ‘Patrick’s’ of the world, I am NOT for ‘doing nothing’ or anti-government. I wholeheartedly support measures to encourage people to use, re-use, and waste less.  I support measures to research, and develop… Read more »

  • Steve says:

    08:41pm | 19/11/09

    Some interesting thoughts from some that struggle with the reality that the Liberal Party fully supports an ETS. It is a proven fact with plenty of visual and data records to back the fact that the earth is warming. It is also a fact that pollution increase medical problems,  reduces… Read more »

 

Clean coal is in essence, an oxymoron. Much like ``friendly fire’’ or Kevin Rudd’s ``tough and hardline but humane’’ asylum seeker policy dubbed ``compassionate brutality’’ by one wag recently.

I'm a coal man, da da dah da dah

Of course, in the case of ``clean coal’‘, the term is used to suggest that it actually exists. Yet it doesn’t -  least not yet.

Doubtless, it is a fine aspiration, especially given the world’s heavy reliance on coal, and it’s central part in global warming. But an aspiration is pretty much all it is.

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  • cats says:

    12:48pm | 04/12/09

    “Why is it okay to take such strong positions against coal fired power, yet take it’s beneficial use for granted each day ? “ totally agree. Anyone who doesn’t want coal is a hypocrit. Aww how then will you all watch Today Tonight with no coal to power your electricity? Read more »

  • cats says:

    12:45pm | 04/12/09

    I’d like to know how many of you have engineering degrees to make these claims that clean coal doesn’t exist, and the research behind you. Anyone? Read more »

 

IF you squinted in a particular way, it was just possible to see last Sunday’s extraordinary meeting of the Coalition joint party-room as a triumph for Malcolm Turnbull.

Opposition Leader Malcolm Turnbull speaking to reporters this week. Photo: Ray Strange

But the bar was set pretty low. He may have emerged from the four and a half hour marathon armed with the authority to negotiate with the Government on emissions trading, but it was a Clayton’s mandate.

Consider for example its qualified nature - remembering at the same time, the Government’s pre-condition that it would only conduct talks with the Opposition if its negotiators had the authority to deliver its numbers in the parliament. On this score, Mr Turnbull’s authority looks shaky. Theoretically at least, he could get 100 per cent of what he asks for from the Government, and still not be able to say yes without a separate party-room meeting to approve it.

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  • Carl Palmer says:

    05:30pm | 26/10/09

    The coalition is all at sea on virtually everything. Why? Because they are scared that they will get smashed should Labour decide to call a double dissolution and go to the polls. So they will bend over here there and everywhere. Personally I just wish the coalition would stand for… Read more »

  • Garry says:

    01:05pm | 26/10/09

    I am starting to get an image of Mr Rudd I did not want. He is standing there in the house hands in pockets and blaming the opposition, the past government and bickering about who is rude rather than being a leader. Why are they fixated on the failure of… Read more »

 

Note: ABC Breakfast host Virginia Trioli made this “you’re crazy” hand twirling gesture after interviewing Senator Barnaby Joyce on the issue of the ETS. Trioli obviously didn’t realise the cameras were still on. She later rang Senator Joyce to apologise, he quipped to the Punch that he couldn’t quite hear because he had been placed in an asylum.

Apparently some television commentators think that I’m the insane one.

Virginia Trioli mocking Barnaby Joyce with the universal sign of crazy

Maybe that explains the place where I work.

Obviously, if I’m not me who am I?

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  • ANGRY says:

    08:14am | 25/11/09

    If this ETS(Employment Termination Scheme/Extra Tax Scheme) is introduced due to the COMPLICITY OF THE TRAITOUS TURNCOAT, then Australians must have “DEMOCRACY IS DEAD” day, to mourn the passing of DEMOCRACY in Australia! How can such a day be organized? Anybody have any ideas? Australians should show how ANGRY they… Read more »

  • Graham says:

    12:54am | 24/11/09

    The scheme is wrong, and being done for the wrong reasons. If we are serious in this country of emissions, then we must get serious about conversion to nuclear power, increasing these plants as we decrease dependancy on coal. We do not need to sign up to anything (a la… Read more »

 

If Malcolm Turnbull achieved nothing else yesterday he may have at least shut Wilson Tuckey up for five minutes.

They're alive. Malcolm Turnbull and Julie Bishop emerge from the Beaconsfield mine

Yesterday’s five hour joint party room meeting was a victory for Malcolm Turnbull but it was one that doesn’t leave a great deal of time for basking in the afterglow.

Malcolm Turnbull and Ian MacFarlane now have the right to sit down and discuss a set of agreed amendments with Penny Wong and Turnbull’s leadership is safe until at least the end of the year.  And while it’s not much Malcolm Turnbull will take any small mercies at the moment and they’re ones he has fought hard for.

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  • BT says:

    09:42pm | 19/10/09

    @ chemist, You’ll forgive me for taking the United Nation’s perspective over yours I’m sure. Read more »

  • chemist says:

    07:40pm | 19/10/09

    BT the whole vegan/vegetarian environmental argument is complete nonsense. Livestock are simply replacements for the vast wild herds that once existed. Water vapour is responsible for 96% of the greenhouse effect. CO2 is responsible for less than 3%. The TOTAL human contribution (from all activities including agriculture) to greenhouse gases… Read more »

 

Illustration: Bill Leak

Editor’s note: Malcolm Turnbull has a huge fight on his hands this Sunday when the Coalition has an extraordinary party room meeting to decide whether to negotiate with the Rudd Government on the Emissions Trading Scheme. Kevin Andrews is one of many Liberals who, contrary to Mr Turnbull, think the Bill should at least be delayed until after Copenhagen.

Let me pose a simple question about the ETS. By how much will the price of a litre of milk and a loaf of bread increase once the ETS is introduced?

And let me give you the simple answer: No-one knows! But increase in price they will, because Mr Rudd’s ETS is a tax on everything.

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  • Andrew says:

    12:58am | 24/10/09

    Well firstly, it relies entirely on the supposed authority of one pundit’s opinion (who claimed 12.5%), in much the same way as a seemingly large proportion of climate skepticism is sown. Arguments from authority are always fallacious. Secondly, the public would understand more if all politicians made bipartisan efforts to… Read more »

  • paulh says:

    04:35pm | 23/10/09

    it is only using the gst as a comparison.If the tax paying public were informed that the ets will cost the same as putting gst up to 13 or 15%.How else will the public understand.Rudd was ferocious in his attacks on howard over the gst yet expects everyone to accept… Read more »

 

In conventional Wayne Swan fashion, he was triumphant as he unveiled Treasury’s stern rebuttal of Frontier Economics research report into an alternative emissions trading scheme.

Wayne

Given the Rudd Government’s deeply flawed Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme, the Coalition had commissioned the report in order to inform discussions about a better carbon trading scheme. But yesterday Mr Swan informed reporters that a $3.2 billion hole had been found in Frontier’s alternative by the Treasury Department.

So where is the modelling? Mr Swan has refused to release it and until he does, Treasury’s alleged rebuttal amounts to zip.

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  • Carl Palmer says:

    08:51am | 15/10/09

    @ Wendy “Let’s wun away together!” you are probably a very attractive person – but sorry I’ll have to knock back the offer – I’m not into “desert islands”. Thanks for the offer.  I’m trying to figure out who is scarier you or the IPCC. Now that’s a challenge Never… Read more »

  • snap says:

    06:15pm | 14/10/09

    Ah, Wendy, you’re a very naughty girl! Nice pick up on the Climate Change Panel link! Read more »

 

The reason the job of federal opposition leader is the toughest gig in politics, is not simply that it’s a hard thankless slog with endless headaches and slim prospects of success.

This man has put himself in a very tough position

Or that outside the immediate pre-election period, you are largely irrelevant to voters. Sure, these aspects don’t make the job much fun, but at least they are relatively predictable.

No, the real reason is that to have any chance of success, you need a team focused on winning when in reality, you’re more likely to be heading up an ill-disciplined rabble.

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  • JamesDX says:

    06:20am | 12/02/10

    Maybe this is me talking nonsense, but it seems like Google isn’t a company run strictly by the top and they seem to be doing quite well. Read more »

  • concerned says:

    07:32pm | 11/10/09

    Janet Albrechtsen was right when she asked where all these climate dissenters were when the Coalition flagged their ETS policy under Howard? The Shergold ETS, which by the way is still Coalition policy. A blogger mentioned that evidence on climate change is flimsy. That is cr*ap. Many of the CC… Read more »

 

One of the more infuriating moments in sport is when your opponent invites you to “look at the scoreboard’‘.

Twelve months is an eternity when you're Malcolm Turnbull

This smarmy gesture suggests a quick punch to the midriff might be called for but you know how that would end up. In politics, this “look at the scoreboard’’ taunt is delivered daily.

And it too produces some fairly self-destructive responses including infighting, silly public comments, and acts of straight-out treachery.

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  • Daniel says:

    10:04am | 21/09/09

    I’m sure Turnbull is getting a very healthy tax payer funded salary and other income from other places. I think he will survive. he is not short of a dollar I’m sure. Read more »

  • Chris says:

    10:19pm | 20/09/09

    Oh, lobi (5.35pm), that can’t pass without comment. I’m sure you know this, but the people of Australia vote for their local members. Rudd is elected only by the voters in his seat of Griffith. It’s the party that elects the leader who becomes PM or Leader of the Opposition. Read more »

 

The appointment of Brendan Nelson as Australia’s ambassador to NATO and the EU is good news for him and good news for Kevin Rudd, but it is an embarrassment for Malcolm Turnbull.

Shiny happy people holding hands. Picture: Kym Smith

While Nelson maintains that there was no offer made prior decision to leave Parliament – the deal was apparently struck over a cup of tea after Nelson decided to leave Parliament with the Prime Minister and only finalised last week – it does cast his decision to leave Parliament early in an entirely new light.

In choosing to leave Parliament early Brendan Nelson has caused a headache for Malcolm Turnbull in having to hold a by-election for his seat of Bradfield, has dropped several mischievous bombs on coalition policy on ETS and is now going to work for the Government that only one year ago he was the leading the charge against.

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  • Kim says:

    10:52am | 18/09/09

    Nelson just dropped the bomb on Malcolm? Turnbull didn’t look too surprised or concerned on TV last night. Read more »

  • Douglas says:

    07:21am | 18/09/09

    Well done, Kev. Keep crushing them, mate. Read more »

 

UPDATED 6:20 PM Following valedictory speech:

A dignified and teary eyed Brendan Nelson bid farewell to Parliament today, but as it’s also the anniversary of the end of his leaderhsip his ghost will be determined to haunt Malcolm Turnbull for quite a while yet.

Malcolm Turnbull bids farewell to Brendan Nelson Photo: Kym Smith

Like Jacob Marley to Ebenezer Scrooge, tonight the ghost of Brendan Nelson will wake Malcolm Turnbull rustling pages of a complex ETS policy that he has been tasked with finding appropriate amendments on for eternity.

At the end of the apparition Nelson tosses the bundles to petrified Turnbull and tells him in a spooky whisper “of course you could do better couldn’t you?” – cue a screaming Turnbull who wakes up with a pile of ETS legislation at the end of his bed.

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  • Bob H says:

    12:08pm | 18/09/09

    Turnbul is the Beazley of the liberal party - in his mind destined to become king but will never be wrapped in the ermine as his allegiance is clearly with toffdom.  No amount of beers watching rugby league or wearing akubras can bridge the public’s perception on that one.  The… Read more »

  • RT says:

    11:59am | 17/09/09

    Jonathon, there’s a better example: the cadaverous Phillip Ruddock, the Amnesty International member who, as Immigration Minister, delighted in the applause of fellow Liberals for his skill in finding new ways to lock up boat refugees. Apart from sitting on the back bench, he remains invisible these days, occupying a… Read more »

 

We are in a very interesting time in politics where malleable positions are starting to solidify.

How much would you pay for a steak? Picture: David Geraghty

The position on the Government’s Save The World policy, the indomitable ETS or CPRS, the Cunning Plan to make the economy RS, will in the near future no doubt deliver us another acronym so we will have a form of rolling acronyms to keep the truth at bay all the way to the second vote in November.

All the polls on the ETS prior to this period have been rather pointless because no one knew what on earth it was beyond a thought bubble that they hoped would pop and go away.

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  • Bart says:

    10:52pm | 17/09/09

    Daniel, how arrogant your comments are. YOU educate? Please mate give me a break. You couldn’t educate a pre school kid to wet his pants. So you think a tax which many are saying similar to a GST only it will be 15 percent on top of the current GST… Read more »

  • Daniel says:

    03:26pm | 10/09/09

    One more thing on the bridge analogy.  Because it’s fun to create false ideas based on misinterpreting facts of chemistry let’s keep it going: Carbon dioxide takes up ~ 0.3% of the atmosphere Carbon monoxide is trace ~ <0.05% Fulnitrazepam in date rape victims body ~ 0.00001 % (and that… Read more »

 

Don’t worry if you don’t understand what the ETS is supposed to do or what the letters even stand for. You’re not alone.

This man was scared and confused when we asked him what an ETS was

Peter had no idea what the letters E, T and S stood for when we asked him, but did manage his own summary of the policy:  ‘It’s gonna cost extra. You don’t get anything for free. Soon they will be taxing the air that we breathe.” Well they kinda are actually Pete, at least what we put into it.

With all the debate about Climate Change and the focus very much on the ETS, here at The Punch we decided it would be a good idea to go out and see what people actually knew about it.

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  • STuart says:

    04:09am | 28/08/09

    I explained the ETS and the Carbon Con and it took about 2 hours to go through so I am fairly up to speed with it It is a foundation blok of the New WOrld Order Global Enslavement Grid Stuart Edwards Read more »

  • Shmemley says:

    01:20am | 28/08/09

    Wake up people! The ETS is a political solution to a non-existant problem. It’s just another ‘cleverly’ disguised tax grab by the federal government - just like the alcopops tax Read more »

 

In 2007, Chris Goodall contended that walking may cause more environmental harm than driving.

The Australian's Kudelka

A noted that a 5km drive would add 1kg of carbon to atmosphere while a walk would seemingly add nothing if you just looked at its direct effects. However, Goodall contended that for many people, they would need more energy to sustain a regular 5km walk. To make up the 180 calories would likely generate 3.6kg in carbon emissions. The trade-off wasn’t even close.

What is significant is that Goodall wasn’t some member of an anti-environmental think tank but himself a strong environmentalist and the author of How to Live a Low-Carbon Life.

And it was he who was suggesting, contrary to one of Al Gore’s dicta in An Inconvenient Truth, that substituting driving for physical transportation might not be environmentally-friendly at all; even if it is friendly to your physical health.

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  • Steve Franks says:

    11:47am | 09/12/09

    Based on the rcommended EU ETS Trading scheme that Kevin Rudd would have us join at Australia’s current emissions (580 million tonnes p.a.) and working population (10.6 million), a carbon price of $A225 would correspond to a cost per working person of more than $A12,000 per year, or around 25… Read more »

  • Sal says:

    09:30pm | 25/08/09

    Hey Shelley Ruddy is all about shining on the world stage, he is constantly auditioning for a UN role rather then being a good PM. But what is sader is that Aussies have not awaken to this fact. Read more »

 

The debate over climate change is an odd one in that you have to back an argument of zealots on one side or the other to make a policy decision – middle ground is not really an option. 

The Australian's Kudelka on restarting the ETS

You have to either accept that the there is such a thing as global warming caused by carbon emissions and is a threat to the planet and our lives or you don’t. Given that most of us don’t actually know anything about climate and weather we have to believe one or other group of people who claim they do.

The thing about the Emissions Trading Scheme as it stands is that neither side agrees that Kevin Rudd has it right, which, unlike most debates in this country, is an indicator you have it all pretty wrong.

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  • tufduc says:

    01:52pm | 19/12/09

    Whatever happened to good responsible stewardship of our planet. May I suggest it’s been hi-jacked by the rich and famous, the politicians and celebrities, the greener than thou’s. These folks spare no expense for the biggest SUV, the biggest house, second house, third house…......etc, And then want the little guy… Read more »

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    09:49am | 26/08/09

    politicians are people too cat Read more »

 

The Rudd Labor Government was elected with a mandate to take action on climate change.  The Howard Government had been frozen in time while the world warmed around it for twelve long years. This was symbolic of the Howard Government’s failure to embrace a future agenda.

The future of the Liberal Party? Wilson Tuckey.

Our first action in Government was to ratify the Kyoto Protocol and gain a seat at the international negotiating table. We followed that up with a whole-of-government response which has included investment in public transport, increased support for renewables and the home insulation initiative.

At the centre of our response is the Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme. This has been through an extensive process of development which has included a green paper, a white paper, an exposure draft and legislation that passed the House of Representatives months ago. This week we saw the future of the Liberal Party – and his name is Wilson Tuckey.

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  • Steve of Cornubia says:

    10:06pm | 20/08/09

    >Groan< Yet another worthless piece of childish, playground politics from Labour, and yet another wasted opportunity to explain how a tax is going to save the planet. It’s quite clear that, because you guys can’t actually provide clear, concise and persuasive arguments for CO2-driven climate change, you instead focus on… Read more »

  • Julian Thomas says:

    10:55pm | 19/08/09

    watty, I have never seen Germany as a Sunny country, maybe thats a reason for a failing solar program?? hmmm Read more »

 

Big retailers are scared, it was reported this morning, to say what they think about the checkout-counter effects of the Federal Government’s plan to help save the planet with its emissions trading scheme.

Jon Kudelka in The Australian today on changes the ETS will make to daily life.

The supermarkets are worried they will enrage environmentally-conscious customers if they dare to so much as suggest there might be some unpleasant side-effects to the ETS.

In case you’ve missed it, The Australian reported retailers are worried the cost of groceries will go up, by about 5 per cent, under the Rudd Government’s plan.

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  • James Flinders says:

    06:36am | 30/12/09

    In December, the New York Times recently ran an article claiming that “carbon will be the world’s biggest commodity market, and it could become the world’s biggest market overall. Currently valued at over $30 billion, the carbon trading market is set to skyrocket to over $1 trillion as the price… Read more »

  • watto says:

    10:46pm | 18/08/09

    Who believes big retailers for starters - they are taking us for a ride. (The average overweight Australian eating 5% less would be a good thing and save billions in health?) Noone complained when the GST took 10 billion plus, out of the economy and was used as a middle… Read more »

 

There’s a school of political thought that goes something along the lines of, if you say something loud enough and long enough it’ll stick in people’s heads – true or not.

A victim of labels, John Kerry.

It’s a calculated tactic embraced most fervently by practitioners of conservative politics, which probably reached its nadir in U.S. style attack ads such as the Swift Boat Veterans.

Mind you, this week’s efforts to smear Barack Obama as a granny-killer over his health care reforms and depict him as a socialist Joker are giving the Swift Boat Vets a run for their money.

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  • sandersonh says:

    04:07am | 18/08/09

    emission slowly part world mitigation years Read more »

  • Steve Cooper says:

    11:19pm | 17/08/09

    Maxine McWho? Read more »

 

Eighteen months ago, the world was in peril.

Leading edge: A technician at the Hallet wind farm in South Australia.

Ice shelves were melting and sea levels rising as a future threat to our cities.

Everyone from the G-8, Al Gore, Stern and Garnaut were warning us.

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  • Mark says:

    06:31am | 16/08/09

    I thought NSW had the first prize of a hopeless government. it appears that Labor is brain dead nationally. Read more »

  • watto says:

    01:38am | 16/08/09

    One issue you seem to run from Mike, is being transparent about how much money the nuclear industry and particularly the international nuclear waste dumping companies are ‘donating’ to your Labor campaign. Your day of election reckoning approaches - answers please! Read more »

 

Australians are inspired by the great mirror fields of solar energy in California and Nevada.  That vision is possible in Australia.  But it is a vision now at risk.

Labor's hot air means renewables such as wind farming are even further off being realised.

For over a year now, the government has delayed renewable energy legislation which would establish a 20% renewable energy target by 2020.  We have an end date but not a start date.

The renewable energy target was a promise made back in 2007.  Yet, here we are in the second half of 2009 without any debate on the legislation yet. 

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  • Jim Fletcher says:

    03:23pm | 14/08/09

    Those in favour of greater spending in the renewable energy area, might care to look at the examples of countries who have done just that. Spain appears to be the current darling, and at present Spain has the highest unemployment figures, and the highest cost of electricily in Europe. One… Read more »

  • Joe says:

    01:50pm | 14/08/09

    Rudd is all about politics on this issue. He just wants to use this as a wedge issue against the Liberal party, and the media lap it up. The greens will bag him but ALWAYS give him their preferences anyway. Howard could have closed down all industry and the greens… Read more »

 

We already have two classes of citizens in our country - those with shared loyalties having dual citizenships and those with only loyalty to Australia.

Passports: a document of convenience for some dual citizens.

Only the latter can be elected to the Australian Parliament.

This shared loyalty concept raises interesting questions when someone commits a heinous crime or crimes in Australia.

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  • missingaustraliainamerica says:

    09:33am | 18/08/09

    I’ve always been under the impression that modern Australia was a nation made up of Indigenous inhabitants and migrants. There isn’t really a clear-cut mould of what it is to be an “Australian”. What makes Australia such a fantastic country is the influence of hundreds of cultures, and our multiculturalism… Read more »

  • Razor says:

    07:20pm | 12/08/09

    Australia should not allow multiple citizenship.  Either you are an Australian or you aren’t. Read more »

 

Whether you sit on the left or right side of the political spectrum, it is important the Australian public are aware of the coalition’s current agenda. It is an agenda which puts at risk everything this country has worked hard to achieve, including financial prosperity and security. It is an agenda which is self interested and is not in the best interests of this country.

Wake up Mal: Nicholson in The Australian.

The job of any opposition is to hold the government of the day to account and to stand up to legislation it believes is not in the best interest of the Australian people.

This is a job the Labor Party did extremely well towards the end of Howard’s reign as Prime Minister. However, since that fateful day on 24 November 2007, the Coalition has done nothing to help this country or hold the government to account.

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  • alan cotterell says:

    11:39am | 16/08/09

    I CAN believe Fielding’s background is in engineering. He show all the simplistic lack of appreciation of science, so common in that profession.  If you want to know something, just ask an engineer, they’re ‘experts’ in everything despite the limitations of their education. Read more »

  • groucho says:

    07:46pm | 12/08/09

    No abuse from me, son. Critical examination of postings to hand, is all.  Difference in view is not the issue here. When a man represents 1/6th of a State,  is paid $127,000 a year (plus 30-odd thousand electoral allowance, plus travel etc etc) to do so, and holds in part… Read more »

 

Malcolm Turnbull’s presentation on his plan B for an emissions trading scheme got a “gratifying grunt of approval” from his party room this morning - which is really the best he could have hoped for.

Is Zoolander a model that the Senate can agree on?

In fact he’s lucky the meeting did not get a lot worse than Wilson Tuckey’s outburst, he was angrily railing against any ETS whatsoever according to Coalition sources.

While on the one hand the Coalition has released the Frontier Economics report as plan B to the Government’s ETS legislation it is failing to commit to the plan as part of its own alternative. The Coalition is just setting itself up for a savaging of the kind it received from the Government in question time today.

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  • Mark M Aldridge Independent says:

    12:23am | 31/12/09

    The Watch Dog, Hi Michael, I see you enjoy my information, the truth is their are many well researched Ideas to introduce green power initiatives, and latest advancements in Nuclear power is but one of them, as for far right..hmmm depends on the subject and individuals education and point of… Read more »

  • The Watchdog says:

    03:45pm | 17/12/09

    Mark M Aldridge is a former South Australian One Nation candidate, who now bills himself as an Independent. His well intentioned, but poorly informed, ‘articles’ are generally an amusing self-caricature of the loony far right. He also always credits himself with his middle initial, and occasionally places “and Thinker” after… Read more »

 

Politicians are severely testing the patience of Australians on climate change.

Progress as slow as evolution. The Climate Institute campaign.

It has taken more than a decade of wrangling for politicians to finally deliver some detailed policy to the floor of Parliament. Yet, when action appears close enough to touch, there is further delay or prospects of more unconditional handouts to big polluters.

An Auspoll survey taken last week shows that only 13 per cent think Australia’s Parliament is moving too fast on addressing climate change. Around half believe progress is too slow and only a solid, sceptical core of seven per cent thinks we should do nothing at all.

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  • therub says:

    10:51am | 12/08/09

    we can all log off, unless our leaders make good decisions at Copenhagen this Dec. So regardless of ETS or the outside chance that politicians might actually DO something, if this meeting does not agree a low carbon future for us all in order to keep global temperature increase to… Read more »

  • formersnag says:

    08:54pm | 11/08/09

    The only Criminals in favour of the ETS, CPRS, are the loony left bureaucrats, dreaming about how, they will waste, the taxes they collect. Or the raving right wall street traders, dreaming about all the bonuses, they can make, trading in carbon default swaps, derivative forestry futures, shares in timbercorp,… Read more »

 

Update 1pm: Ashleigh Gillon on Sky just said the MP who got up in party room and spoke in Turnbull’s defence got a standing ovation. That should make Malcolm feel a bit better.

Malcolm Turnbull had a particularly trying 13 or so minutes on the 7.30 Report last night. If you didn’t see it you can watch it here.

What a bummer party room isn't televised. Turnbull on 7.30 last night.

It started pretty badly for the Opposition leader and it was all down hill from there.

But it was just a light pre-game sparring session compared to what he’s likely to face in the joint Liberal/National party room meeting today. You could forgive Mr Turnbull for actually looking forward to Question Time, if only because if he makes it there he’s survived the meeting this morning.

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  • ANDIKA says:

    07:39pm | 13/08/09

    Everyone who watches the political scene knows that the ABC is nothing more than the media division of the ALP. Read more »

  • Jack Smith says:

    07:28pm | 12/08/09

    Hey are we talking about Kerry O’Boondoggle???? Read more »

 

The most baffling aspect to the entire debate surrounding the Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme is how so many who agree on a problem can be so divided about the best solution.

High noon for the planet: Xenophon says the Government should at least debate the alternative plan.

With the exception of a few mavericks in the Nationals and the Liberals and one lone Senator from Family First, parliament accepts that the scientific debate is over.

Anthropogenic climate change presents us with the most pressing and complex policy problem humankind has faced. Ever. And personally, I can’t help wondering what planet climate change denialists are living on.

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  • Joe says:

    02:51pm | 11/08/09

    If Rudd REALLY believed in AGW he would actually be doing something to celan up Austraia’s environment. Instead he is letting the media have a full run at using his ETS as a wedge issue against the liberals, and Turnbull is falling for it. The Turnbull/Xenophon ETS show’s that Rudd… Read more »

  • DIS says:

    12:24pm | 11/08/09

    The Senator writes “After all, an unwillingness to look at alternate (sic) models is what got us into this mess in the first place.”  I hope he meant “alternative”.  DIS Read more »

 

I’ve just spent a punishing 30 minutes reading Malcolm Turnbull’s climate change plan and I think I need a bit of a lie down. If you want a reasonably concise explanation of what it means here’s The Australian’s noble effort. The unedited and unfathomable version can be found here at the Liberals’ site.

Nicholson in The Australian: will Turnbull's plan take the heat off his leadership?

These are the questions which struck me while reading it: Is Turnbull’s plan a sincere and reasoned attempt at compromise - and if so was Labor wrong to dismiss it out of hand?

Or is it purely an internal measure to silence his critics within the party - and if so should he butt out of the debate and let the government of the day exercise its mandate? We’ve asked some of the players to file, so there’s more to come but for now, over to you.

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  • groucho says:

    01:55pm | 12/08/09

    Nup. All my own work. Plenty of reliable reference material readily found on line. Go and do your own homework before spraying personal insult around. grouch out. Read more »

  • Helena says:

    12:21pm | 12/08/09

    Not a Labor voter? Just a Rudd voter heh! Your just repeating Rudds and Wongs spin lol Read more »

 

I recently rang my electricity company to discuss GreenPower. I knew I wanted 100% GreenPower but I didn’t want it now. I wanted it in January 2010. Right now, I want to do my bit to keep the government’s 2009 GreenPower baseline as low as possible – so my efforts towards emissions reductions really count.

You can take your wind farm…

‘Give me the dirtiest coal electricity you have,’ I said to the operator.

I explained that under the government’s proposed emissions trading scheme, me paying extra for GreenPower wouldn’t actually reduce Australia’s carbon emissions – beyond what would happen if I didn’t take any action at all.

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  • Gavin Cerini says:

    08:47am | 26/10/09

    I WANT OUR CLIMATE BACK, not just a CO2 halt at 350ppm, but right back to 280ppm. The remnant brolga (one of the world`s 16 crane species) population in Victoria is about 700, and since 1996 there has been little successful nesting due to continued drought. Brolgas prefer large wetlands… Read more »

  • Geoff Piddington says:

    07:40pm | 27/09/09

    The requirement for energy in any form is neccessary to society whether it be a cave dweller or an astronaut.  The problem is, there is to many people drawing energy green or other and no matter what is done, the population will continue to grow as will the demand for… Read more »

 

In 21 days, the Senate will vote on the Government’s climate change legislation that will – for the first time ever – turn the corner on rising carbon pollution in Australia.

.Tucko, Mincho, Malco and Barno all make for entertaining viewing when it comes to the ETS

This means Malcolm Turnbull has 21 days to get his party into shape on climate change.

We have seen a diverse parade of positions from the Liberal Party on climate change this week, not to mention the views put forward by their coalition partners in the National Party.

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  • A galoot says:

    06:05pm | 05/08/09

    I work for the coal industry and it’s obvious that they don’t care much about the environment EXCEPT when it’s costing them money.  Currently I, and my team, are working on environmental projects.  Why?  Because the industry is significantly worried about carbon trading.  I therefore support a Carbon Trading Scheme,… Read more »

  • Jacob says:

    12:11pm | 27/07/09

    The fact that Rudd and his Government refuse to discuss any of the oppositions amendments to its ETS goes to show how arrogant they really are. There appears to be more democracy in the Turnbull camp than in the Rudd camp. Power and popularity has no doubt gone to Rudd… Read more »

 

The Rudd Government, recognising that their Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS) is a lemon, has followed the same strategy as a car manufacturer and rebadged the product under the label of a Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme (CPRS). 

Tuckey: Turnbull is missing a tactical opportunity to attack Rudd on the ETS

They have not, however, improved the product nor does their ETS comply with its new label.  The ETS remains a process whereby the Government sells or gifts the right to continue polluting the atmosphere to those industries most notorious for so doing.  Rudd further expects to gain $11bn of Tax Revenue from the process.

He sells this proposal under the delusion that there will be a market based response from those so taxed, which will cause them to reduce their emissions. 

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  • Bill says:

    11:47am | 02/12/09

    It is good we are all having a discussion on this whole subject of climate change and whether it is man induced. THis is not the time to blindly follow the political party you have followed all your life. Lets all put Australia our kids and our kids kids first.… Read more »

  • Greg says:

    11:51pm | 05/11/09

    SAY NO TO COPENHAGEN! This grab for cash has been going on since 1972. Now it includes handing over our sovereignty as well. Mr Turnbull must stand against this lunacy. He is a hard enough person to vote for but if he doesnt stand against this then youve lost me… Read more »

 

The polls on climate change are in and Australia is speaking as one, in a consistent and unwavering voice, sending the government a clear message it ignores at its own peril. That message? “We don’t know”.

Do you care if these polar bears drown in a balmy tropical sea? Umm, don't know.

Over the past few months ‘Don’t Know’ has emerged from the pack to be the most popular answer to a series of questions around climate change posed in the weekly Essential Report. Where once we were clear on the need for decisive action to stop global warming, now we are all at (rising?) sea. And the source of our confusion can be summed up in the ugly little acronym, ETS. Here’s a snapshot from recent polls:

June 29: Should the Opposition vote in favour or against the Government’s ETS legislation? - 40 per cent Don’t Know
June 22: Is the Government’s ETS strong enough? – 47 per cent Don’t Know
June 15: Should the Greens support the ETS in the Senate? – 37 per cent Don’t Know

This collective confusion represents a victory for the climate change deniers, notably the industry groups who have created their own doomsday scenarios around job losses in carbon-reliant industries.

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  • RT says:

    04:33pm | 07/07/09

    All this means is that for once those polled were honest in saying that they don’t know. Usually they might be willing to agree with one proposition or another put to them by a pollster but that is not at all the same as ‘knowing’. In most cases people know… Read more »

  • Andika says:

    04:19pm | 07/07/09

    I think Utegate was just the diversion the coalition wanted so the first senate vote on the ETS would occur in August, which it will be defeated so that means it won’t come back for a second senate vote until early 2010 which is well after the December UN Climate… Read more »

 

Well I suppose there are so many things one could talk about this week but if we didn’t talk about the ETS being Emission Trading Scheme, or the Employment Termination Scheme depending on your opinion, then we would definitely be ignoring the political elephant in the room.

By The Australian's cartoonist, Jon Kudelka

For Australians working in the productive section of the economy like our farmers and those working in the mining industry and are part of the economy that actually puts produce on the boat to pay for the standard of living in Australia, then for this scheme to have affect you will have to be affected.

China and the US have now got themselves into terminal mire as they try to work out how to look good without going broke.

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  • Dallas Beaufort says:

    11:34pm | 24/06/09

    Barnaby says that the “Only winners from an ETS will be cashed-up traders” Well, what about the governments, public sector control, capture and churn. Read more »

  • Andy from KIRRA says:

    07:57pm | 24/06/09

    Family First Senator Steve Fielding has come to the same conclusion as you (http://bit.ly/olPi3) that there’s not enough evidence that climate change is caused by humans. Now I just hope the Liberals hold their nerve vote the ETS down. Real climate change is a natural process that is mainly driven… Read more »

 

A review of the United States’ Waxman-Markey climate change bill by Australia’s Parliamentary Library has exposed some interesting facts on safeguarding industry.

Obama doing what he does best, talking tractors

Handed down on Monday, the parliamentary report on the US Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS) says: “Industries with proportionally high import or export values are potentially fully shielded from the scheme until the majority (greater than 70 per cent) of global production in that sector is subject to emissions pricing.

“The (Waxman-Markey) bill allows for up to 100 per cent compensation for all direct and indirect costs to industries that are assessed as emissions intensive and trade exposed.”

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  • Steve Franks says:

    01:22pm | 08/12/09

    ETS is a trading scheme. It doesnt fix Climate Change - period. Its been tried and failed in 3 previous ETS’s in europe. All it did was make banks and financial corporations and government richer. A different approach is needed. Perhaps a Carbon Tax. Read more »

  • Joe says:

    02:53pm | 03/07/09

    I work for one of the largest AFGC member food companies and was disturbed to read this rant. I would expect something far more measured and balanced if Kate Carnell wants to seriously claim to be representing our position, rather than so blatantly pushing her own political barrow. While it… Read more »

 

It’s supposed to be order in the House, but last week it was chaos in the House.

If I had a hammer: Kev shows off his stimulus package

Why, because an inarticulate Prime Minister resorted to signs, pictures and placards to try and get his point across.

The Government from Mr Rudd down seems to be rattled, so when not using props both the Prime Minister and Deputy Prime Minister resort to personal abuse rather than just the usual political invective.

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  • zebadiah says:

    02:47pm | 03/06/09

    Come on Bronwyn, you of all people should know that these ‘silly stunts’ are perfectly normal, every day behaviour in parliament.  It is, quite frankly, embarrassing to watch grown men and women jeering and name calling, sneering and laughing at opponents, ignoring simple questions and instead spouting rhetorical nonsense on… Read more »

  • Richard Ure says:

    03:12pm | 02/06/09

    The Opposition pitches its arguments at the innumerate and economically illiterate sections of the electorate. When the standard of debate improves and the Opposition specifies which projects should not have been funded, the debate will move to a higher plane. In the meantime, sadly, there will probably be more stunts… Read more »

 

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