Babies

So we’re at war. Mums everywhere, online, on the radio, in the sand pit. Judging each other for the choices we make as parents. Putting each other down to sooth our own insecurities. Driving ourselves to competitive distraction.

Parents, they ain't nobody else's problem but yours. Illustration: Supplied

If you believe TIME, and the reaction to it, we’re in the trenches and the enemy is other mothers who do things differently.

Only, we’re not… Because behind the controversy whipped up by so-called parenting experts, the media commentators and the shock jocks, ordinary parents are just getting on with the job of parenting.

Latest 2 of 74 comments

View all comments
 
  • Fiona says:

    09:38pm | 16/05/12

    Not the lip kissing thing. My poor daughter is going to have for a MIL a woman who has already told her that she can’t ever kiss her children on the lips. Note:she doesn’t even have kids yet. Read more »

  • Fiona says:

    09:35pm | 16/05/12

    I think you’ll find lots of parents who feel rewarded for it. Not all the time, but there are times. My oldest is mid 20s now and it’s a huge reward for me to see her living a happy, successful life and finally having a adult relationship with her. We… Read more »

 

If a clean house is a sign of a wasted life then Octomom’s filthy home shows… what, exactly?

She relies on her oldest child, Larry, to help out. Pic: Supplied

Turns out Nadya Suleman, who famously gave birth to octuplets and depends on handouts to feed the 14 children she now has, has some difficulty keeping her home sparkling fresh.

Read here how she lets the kids wallow in a squalid pad while she forks out $520 on a haircut and see the pictures here at TMZ.

Latest 2 of 98 comments

View all comments
 
  • Bernadette says:

    05:08pm | 30/04/12

    Also the style of the graffiti, doesn’t match the age of the children, all the mum’s think about it, you find a scribble somewhere, you can tell the age of the child just by looking at it, I can tell immediately if my child may have done it. I am… Read more »

  • Angry Fat Bitch says:

    07:24pm | 27/04/12

    Bev - she hasn’t gone on to have any more, has she? And she’s publicly admitted that although she loves her kids, she does regret having so many. I’d call that learning from the mistake. Read more »

 

While pregnant, I remember gazing at the slim, lissome models in the posh maternity wear catalogues and wondering if they were going to give birth to a basketball instead of a baby.

The kind of stuff you'd expect from pregnant models

Those graceful elongated elks seemed to inhabit an enchanted forest a world away from mine. They wore clothes I couldn’t afford to buy. They were tall, slim and had beautiful round compact baby bellies. I was short, squat, perspiring, and afflicted with varicose veins in unmentionable places.

But it never occurred to me that these catalogue women posing in the chocolate Toorak wrap dress ($269.99), the Point Piper aqua tee ($69.99) or the Double Bay print pant ($99.99) were not actually pregnant.

Latest 2 of 48 comments

View all comments
 
  • Robert Smissen of country SA says:

    11:14pm | 23/03/12

    That’s nice for you, but other than these “virtual women” do you know any real women? Read more »

  • HD says:

    03:11pm | 23/03/12

    Wow, that’s a pretty touchy response to an article that is in no way being sold as hard hitting journalism (sorry Susie, I’m assuming you weren’t going for a big expose here…) Yes, we have a choice and we continue to go back and get pregnant over and over again. … Read more »

 

Fertility is a precious commodity for the modern woman. Greater opportunities, education and choice, along with the difficulties of finding the right partner can make it easy to delay falling pregnant. Being able to stow eggs away for the “right time” is an alluring prospect.

Is that mum or grandma?

In this context, a recent discovery by Dr Jonathan Tilly of Harvard’s Massachusetts General Hospital offers massive temptation. The American scientist has found that ovaries of young women harbour very rare stem cells capable of producing new eggs.

He made the discovery after an initial study found that stem cells in the ovaries of adult mice could give rise to viable eggs. This means that although women are born with a finite number of eggs, they now have more chances to fall pregnant later in life. But it’s also a risk of epic proportions.

Latest 2 of 78 comments

View all comments
 
  • Nyx says:

    01:30pm | 29/02/12

    @ Jane2 ...I wasn’t a change of life baby (and I’m actually quite offended by that). I was an accident. My mother and father had already had 8 children (and 8 miscarriages). Both my sisters were carrying children at the same time my mother was pregnant with me. In no… Read more »

  • Steve M says:

    09:12am | 29/02/12

    Lol, well isnt that a bigoted view. Especially when considered against your posts on the gay parents blog on this same website. Surely a grey haired parent is better than an abusive gay parent? How intolerant lol. Read more »

 

When I was pregnant with my second child, the 19 week ultrasound brought potentially devastating news. Our child had a growth on the lung which could kill them. At that stage, doctors were unsure what would happen.

More joy, more risk. Pic: National Geographic

The growth could get bigger, squashing internal organs and killing the baby. If that happened, they could induce the baby at about 26 weeks so doctors could try to operate. Or it may not grow any bigger and the baby could have it removed after birth.

News that a couple had the wrong twin aborted at 32 weeks when one was diagnosed with a serious heart defect brought these memories flooding back. This poor couple ended up losing both children, which is horrific for all involved.

Latest 2 of 76 comments

View all comments
 
  • Mikko says:

    12:18pm | 28/11/11

    kyzz, you mean all their mums had German measles? What an amazing coincidence. You forgot Hitler? Read more »

  • Tanya says:

    09:51am | 28/11/11

    @ Watching, I am late writing this but felt the need to do so. I don’t agree, nor do I think the ‘pro-choice’ lobby is relevant in any way to this discussion. Doctors issue advice based on medical precedents in this case, the number of babies born with this condition… Read more »

 

There is no ‘right’ to have a child. This seems a callous thing to say, but wrapping any conversation about children up in cuddly pink fleece-lined jumpsuits doesn’t help what has to be a serious policy debate.

Babies babies babies. Pic: Supplied

While it must be devastating for couples who, for whatever reason, are unable to conceive, there are limits to society’s obligations to help them. Like most controversial health decisions, this is a tale of clashing rights and finite resources.

Last year the Federal Government made changes to the Medicare Safety Net, effectively capping the amount they would pay out for assisted reproductive treatments.

Latest 2 of 208 comments

View all comments
 
  • Lee says:

    07:36am | 04/11/11

    @Adam, it amazes me that our parents, grandparents, great-great grandparents and so on back through time, managed to breed without government handouts, so they may have done it tough, they may have had to work thier whole lives to support thier children, but they managed it. But now we have… Read more »

  • Alannah says:

    09:18pm | 03/11/11

    If our Government can’t support us then why are we sending millions of dollars overseas to other countries?? Why aren’t we sending boat people home rather then splashing out thousands of dollars each year in goods and services, if I break the law i’m punished yet if Aslyum Seekers come… Read more »

 

You have to admire those fine doctors working at the cutting edge to help people with fertility issues achieve their baby dreams. As well as putting themselves out there by pushing the boundaries of science, many brave even more shark-infested waters: Australian gender politics.

Mr Just Good enough could do the trick. Photo: Herald Sun

The latest professor to put his head up and get it half bitten off is the veteran Melbourne IVF specialist, Professor Gab Kovacs, a man who must have lost count decades back of how many thousand little Australians he has helped into the world.

Mr Kovacs dared to suggest that rather than banking on new technologies such as egg freezing, women should consider settling for Mr Not-Quite-Right and just get on with it. Without a trace of tone, the worldly Prof Kovacs suggested women should not consider frozen eggs a guarantee of a “family in the fridge’‘.

Latest 2 of 271 comments

View all comments
 
  • Alexa says:

    11:21am | 18/02/12

    Excellent website. I like your commenting system. I’m sorry for the off-topic posting, yet I had been really pleased with Djokovic’s play in the final of the Aussie OPen this yr. The man is probably unequalled. He proved he was as strong as stainless steel. Just imagine about he he… Read more »

  • Gypsy says:

    08:21pm | 23/10/11

    Worst advice I ever got was that ‘it’s hard to find somebody’ and ‘you’re not getting any younger’. I stupidly settled for Mr Not-Quite-Right. Have had years of misery and am still childless. Would have been better on my own or with a sperm donor. Read more »

 

Four friends were dining over lunch in a swish Adelaide restaurant last weekend when a woman at the next table pulled out her chair and proceeded to change her baby’s nappy on the floor.

They wouldn't be so happy if they changed nappies in public. Picture: Nathan Edwards

Can you believe that? The four friends couldn’t. They were so stunned they decided to phone The Sunday Mail.

“It was just so unhygienic and inappropriate,” said one. “Luckily it was only a wet nappy – imagine if it had been really messy.”

No thanks, ladies. Might put me off my own lunch. But talk about taking the new mums’ cause back 20 years.

Latest 2 of 58 comments

View all comments
 
  • Danny B says:

    09:00am | 04/10/11

    BTK, Then I’m not complaining about you.  I’m talking about those with the music loud and windows down - who do nothing to stop disturbing other people. Read more »

  • Eloise says:

    07:46am | 04/10/11

    I wonder if it would cause a stir if I changed a sanitary napkin or tampon in the middle of a childcare centre/day care centre/kindy whilst the kids are eating? It shouldn’t cause a fuss, because it has to be done and I just can’t be bothered with going to… Read more »

 

Should circumcision be banned? Is it mutilation or a culturally and medically significant practice?

Waaaaaah! By which I mean Oy Vey! Pic snipped from circinfo.net.

That’s the question facing legislators in San Francisco after a controversial, but successful, campaign lead by “Foreskin Man” Michael Hess to have the question put to a ballot.

In California in the last year, the anti-circumcision movement has gained enough public momentum to have the question put to a ballot. Under Hess’ proposal, the circumcision of a minor would be a criminal act and be treated as an assault.

Latest 2 of 219 comments

View all comments
 
  • Sticky says:

    11:46am | 23/11/11

    What a joy to find such clear thinking. Thanks for psotnig! Read more »

  • Jimmy says:

    09:11pm | 20/11/11

    My problem was a wall until I read this, then I ssmaehd it. Read more »

 

Yesterday, we had a lively discussion in The Punch office. The following is what the fly on the wall heard…

Ant: What’s this story you’re thinking about re babies on planes, T?

Tory: Malaysia Airlines are banning kids in first class and I reckon it’s a brilliant idea. I wish I had the money to fly first class, and now there’s one more reason. I’m always the passenger who ends up next to the screaming baby which means I arrive somewhere tired and pissed off when I’m meant to be enjoying my holiday

Ant: You’re aware that babies are human beings with every right to be on a plane, right?

Latest 2 of 381 comments

View all comments
 
  • uptightoutasight says:

    08:49pm | 09/07/11

    I have travelled on planes with my 4 children and they didn’t disturb anybody but it is hard work and I wouldn’t choose it lightly. 2 days ago, I returned from London on a qantas flight. I can’t afford to fly anything other than economy which means it is squashy… Read more »

  • Emma says:

    04:32pm | 03/07/11

    @Tomodomo I understand that there are issues faced by all types of human on planes. But I noted a fact; I was stuck on a plane from Sydney to London with a crying baby in front; I did not pose a hypothetical situation. Furthermore, my comment requested that I ask… Read more »

 

As a general rule, men and women know squat about babies. At least until they have to raise one.

New birthing methods just get wackier and wackier

Then it’s time to knuckle down and survive the crying and vegemite poo, striving for the same primal instinct that enabled our ancestors to find shelter without iPhones and run barefoot across rocky terrain, chasing the evening meal with only a large toothpick and loincloth for protection.

Giving birth, so we have been led to believe, was much the same thing. A labour, in all senses of the word, to be endured rather than enjoyed; a period of a couple of hours (if you were lucky) or a couple of days (if you were not) where all you could do was grit your teeth and hope for the best, as nature intended.

Latest 2 of 65 comments

View all comments
 
  • Chris R. says:

    08:23am | 10/06/11

    Brilliant Lisa. That was one of the most sensible yet inspiring things I’ve ever read about childbirth. Well done! Read more »

  • LaDiva says:

    08:00pm | 06/06/11

    Epidurals rock! Read more »

 

Before we had children, my husband and I had dual careers. We both jumped on planes at a moment’s notice, saw each other when we could and, in rare, quiet times, pinched ourselves because we had jobs we loved.

My solution is bringing bubba out on the job. Pic: AP

Then I became pregnant. My husband bought baby clothes. Lots of them. Being the literary tragic I am, I daydreamed about a daughter with a Shakespearean name: Cordelia, Ophelia, Perdita. As if.

What we didn’t think about, because neither of us are planners, was how we’d share looking after said baby. I was determined to be a mother, first and foremost, but I was also young, freelancing and the first of my friends to have a baby. Wouldn’t it just fit in?

Latest 2 of 77 comments

View all comments
 
  • Michelle says:

    11:57am | 19/05/11

    Dear Angela, Thank you for your entertaining article.  My partner and I have four amazing kids, and we’ve both shared the working/parenting responsibilities.  Both of us, in each situation, and every day could do better at recognising the value we bring to each other and our children. I’ve thought about… Read more »

  • Fiona says:

    10:04pm | 18/05/11

    @James1, just forget about it, @Ray won’t ever change. At this point you’re just feeding the troll. Read more »

 

Ninety-four year old actress Zsa Zsa Gabor’s ninth husband, Prince Frederik von Anhalt, reportedly wants her to have a baby using his sperm, a donor egg and a surrogate mother. Yes, he does. He visited a Beverley Hills fertility clinic for sperm analysis and blood work. 

Actually, Gabor looks pretty good for 94. Pic: AP

There have been no reports of him also having his head read; however, Gabor’s daughter, 64-year-old Francesca Hilton (a product of Gabor’s second marriage to hotel magnate, Conrad Hilton) has denounced the story as the latest in a string of wild publicity stunts by her seventh step-father.

And while the Gabor-Anhalts gallivant around celebrity baby clinics (if gallivanting is possible when you are just shy of a century, with a partially-amputated leg), my friend – a single mum of two young children – has announced that she has successfully battled cancer at the age of 38.  Facing her own mortality, she had to put in place a plan for the care of her children, which involved her parents and her sisters. 

Latest 2 of 75 comments

View all comments
 
  • Katharine says:

    03:07pm | 19/04/11

    Well said. What about cases where the woman in her 40s or 50s is married to a much younger man, eg in his 30s? You don’t see people mentioning that, either. If people react to older mums with disgust, why not the same disgust when older dads procreate? It’s hypocrisy. Read more »

  • Jane says:

    08:10pm | 18/04/11

    In reply to Sunny, well, my husband’s mother must have been a terrible, terrible role model for him. His mother had him at 18. My bogan husband and I were 31 and 29 respectively when we had our first child. Read more »

 

So, radio personality Jackie O crossed a quiet, leafy, Double Bay pedestrian crossing while bottle-feeding her six-week-old daughter and made the mistake of being photographed.

Mothercraft and Nannies director, Jenni Waldron, tut-tutted in the Daily Telegraph that “it would be best to sit comfortably in a chair and hold your baby correctly while feeding”. She was probably caught off guard too.

Jackie felt compelled to explain herself on air: ‘I was running late and Kitty was screaming…’. Yes.  I feel like doing that myself when I read stories like this. 

Latest 2 of 114 comments

View all comments
 
  • ERin says:

    03:54pm | 06/04/11

    “Do these imitation nipples crack and bleed while you cry and feel like a failure?  Does the set come with a bonus pack of bottles and unprompted judgmental comments from perfect strangers if the plastic flowers don’t work properly? If not, I’m not buying it. It doesn’t really sound like… Read more »

  • Slick says:

    03:57pm | 01/04/11

    Stephy, I had 2 c-sections so I don’t know about it blocking out the 15 hours of incredibly painful contractions. The 12 hours I had was without any drugs as I wasnt offered and didnt know I could demand as I was going in for the ceaser anyways… Stupid natural… Read more »

 

Even cute babies have ugly mothers.  That’s how it was in the Bonds Baby online beauty contest last week, when things got so nasty the police were called in.

Pippa Taylor's two-year-old daughter Lilli was the victim of a racist taunt. Pic: Jeff Camden

Outraged by a computer glitch which interrupted voting for their precious widdle sweedies, spurned mums turned on other chubby-cheeked cherubs in the running.

“Bonds Australia not Asia” was the charming comment posted beside a photo of two-year-old contestant Lilli, who shares Asian and European heritage.  One baby copped “a child only a mother could love” and another was labelled an “ugly duckling”.

Latest 2 of 35 comments

View all comments
 
  • Fairsnotfair says:

    12:41pm | 07/03/11

    These mothers bring it on themselves. What happened to a sense of modesty and being humble? The bigger your ego - the harder you will fall. Feel pity for the children - they will simply grow up to be bigger versions of their overly inflated parents’ egos. Read more »

  • Kika says:

    12:12pm | 07/03/11

    No, I agree with Thommo. It has nothing to do with ‘race’ - I’ve seen much cuter kids - asian, eurasian or european. But the good thing is many ugly babies turn into good looking adults and visa versa. Read more »

 

‘Delighted when hubby hung his first load of washing on the line,’ noted a Facebook friend. ‘Less delighted when I realised he didn’t use pegs.’ 

'But Mum, I don't WANT to do crazy stuff with Dad. Pic: AP

A domino run of comments followed, with women chortling over the guy who didn’t turn the iron on but flattened a shirt with it anyway, and the time a friend bet someone a bottle of Moet her partner wouldn’t notice if she didn’t wash his clothes for ten days.

As far as short cuts resulting in more work go, the non-use of pegs is right up there with the least thought-through of ideas.  My 12-year-old did the same thing with her sister’s Pumpkin Patch bikini recently (last seen in the dog’s mouth, as he belted gleefully behind the pittosporum hedge).

Latest 2 of 91 comments

View all comments
 
  • The Real Eric says:

    10:14pm | 12/02/11

    Eric(k), Please, please resume your previous, authentic identity. Otherwise it won’t be the same anymore. I miss you! Read more »

  • Elphaba says:

    01:24pm | 12/02/11

    @Ray, if I did that, you’d lose the power of speech. Read more »

 

Between baby bonuses and maternity payments, pushy people and their prying questions, there is too much pressure to push out puppies.

At least they don't need nappies! Photo: AP

And most of it comes from men.

I get that people want to reproduce. Really.

Latest 2 of 204 comments

View all comments
 
  • social says:

    09:03pm | 10/05/12

    f6d4S6 Im grateful for the blog post.Thanks Again. Will read on… Read more »

  • Jill says:

    05:03pm | 27/06/11

    My husband and I decided not to have children and we’re now early 50’s, with no regrets. We were also questioned and judged over the years, but we preferred to change the subject rather than open up our private life for discussion. It mystifies me why anyone would care whether… Read more »

 

Okay, so this is a delicate topic. How a woman ‘should’ give birth is such an emotion-charged issue because it’s something a woman has imagined since the moment she found out where babies come from.

Dannii Minogue and partner Chris Smith from the star's Twitter page after her home birth last week.

If I am brutally honest, there are two camps of women here: one group of very vocal women who are yet to give birth, who are probably pregnant and have a very detailed birth plan (right down to scented candles and essentials oils). The other (far more realistic) group of women are the ones who know that a birth plan gets shot to shit when it’s crunch time.

And by crunch time, I mean that pivotal moment when you scream, “Please get this baby out of my body immediately, or I will kill someone.” (Not that I said this. In fact, I am surprised that for someone who likes profanities, I didn’t call my husband any names or tell him it was ‘his fault’. And whatever else Hollywood makes you believe is ‘normal’ during an intense delivery).

Latest 2 of 166 comments

View all comments
 
  • Pauline Costins says:

    01:07am | 17/09/10

    To the author, it would have been nice for you to get equal representation from the Australian College of Midwives (ACM) as you got comment from the AMA. Normal birth is the area of midwives and midwifery, it is strange that you only get comment from Dr Andrew Pesce an… Read more »

  • Grevillea says:

    09:24am | 20/07/10

    I am a mum of five children now all adults. Three were born in the UK, one in an excellent hospital in Nairobi and my last at home in Kent. From the very beginning of my “breeding years” I made a vital and life-changing discovery in the work of Doctor… Read more »

 

I’m sick and tired of women turning on each other. Why do we do this to ourselves?

The Guiness Book breastfeeding challenge on the Central Coast. Photo: Rob McKell

I don’t expect all of us to sit around singing Kumbayah.But surely a little bit of support from the Sisterhood isn’t out of the question.

The latest example of sororicide is the story entitled ‘Breastfeeding, it’s not about choice’, written for The Punch by Rita Panahai. Ms. Panahai contends that Australia has deplorable rates of breastfeeding because mothers are selfish. (I’d always thought was an oxymoron.)

Latest 2 of 54 comments

View all comments
 
  • Carrie says:

    03:21pm | 23/11/11

    I’m so glad I found my soluiton online. Read more »

  • Darold says:

    11:43am | 23/11/11

    Well macdaamia nuts, how about that. Read more »

 

Sometimes you wonder whether you’re living in a parallel universe.

Bottler of an idea: just ban the chemical.

Like that South Park episode where Cartman is nice all the time, or in Seinfeld when Elaine meets Bizarro Jerry.

Or when the Federal Health Minister – who’s also the mother of a small child – won’t ban a toxic chemical that’s making babies sick.

Latest 2 of 12 comments

View all comments
 
  • The Original Realist says:

    01:36am | 13/01/10

    This article is a very good example of why it’s important to get a scientific education… so you aren’t fooled by such pathetic drivel! Read more »

  • Vin says:

    06:33pm | 12/01/10

    If you haven’t figured that roxon is the worst minister in australian politics (failed cataract policy, no healthcare policy that works, trying to make nurses into pseudo-doctors, no plan for the oversupply of new medical grads in less than 5 years) than you must have your head really deep in… Read more »

 

Not everyone wants to have children – in fact according to some recent research conducted by Schering Plough, about 24% of women surveyed said they don’t want to have children.

Many babies born today are Holden fans

For the 76% who do, this survey highlighted the barriers faced by women in 2009 that affect their decisions about children.

In this group, almost two thirds (62%) of Gen Y women, those aged 18 – 29, say they will delay having kids now as they are concerned about the cost.

Latest 2 of 37 comments

View all comments
 
  • Colette says:

    03:21pm | 01/05/12

    Bryndal, fantastic and succinctly put. I too believe in the environmental impact of children on the globe. People think I am some odd, extremist leftie hippie. But I think it makes people like you and me, and hopefully others, more sane and rationale! Read more »

  • Colette says:

    03:12pm | 01/05/12

    What a relief to read these posts! I’ve just turned 32 and am (shock horror to most) unmarried, still working on my career path and considering a 3rd degree while working, and not interested in having children. When I was in my 20s, going out and meeting an endless string… Read more »

 

Facebook Recommendations

Read all about it

Punch live

Up to the minute Twitter chatter

Malcolm Farr

RT @mumbletwits: +1 MT @meadea Adding voice to the boss RT @abcmarkscott: Hereby instruct @Colvinius to make a swift return to good health. (Take care Mark.)

Paul Colgan

Greece makes the final and Ireland gets in on a golden ticket. How awkward and embarrassing. Love it. #sbseurovision

Anthony Sharwood

Every single #eurovision band is roxette #sbseurovision

Anthony Sharwood

The weird thing about #eurovision is you've got this massive collection of dorks in a room and no one is wearing Spock ears #sbseurovision

Recent posts

The latest and greatest

Mining money talks the loudest in Australian politics

Mining money talks the loudest in Australian politics

When North Queensland Liberal MP George Christensen got the idea of launching a new political organisation…

Please enter your password

Please enter your password

Help! I’ve succumbed to a crippling modern illness that can strike at any moment. Symptoms include:…

This concern for Thomson won’t change the script

This concern for Thomson won’t change the script

Under pressure himself over his crusade against Craig Thomson, Tony Abbott has moved to present a softer…

Nosebleed Section

choice ringside rantings

From: They must pay for one’s bitter disappointments

Michael S says:

"A teacher at Geelong Grammar had criticised her for using words that were too long, which had left her confused and had made her doubt her ability to write essays. She became ''quite distressed'' when her English marks began to fall." I can sympathise. My scholastic mentors conveyed to me a causal relationship… [read more]

From: Welfare for breeders is a bonus for everyone

Change Up! says:

I have no problem paying my taxes. As a single, childless person on a very decent income, I can afford it and not have my life severely altered. Plus I understand that my taxes paying for things like schools, childcare and infrastructure is ultimately a good thing. A better community is better for me… [read more]

Gentle jabs to the ribs

They must pay for one’s bitter disappointments

They must pay for one’s bitter disappointments

A private school girl’s family is sueing her elite, extremely expensive private school for not… Read more

243 comments

Newsletter

Read all about it

Sign up to the free daily Punch newsletter