Alan Joyce

When Alan Joyce wakes up every morning, there is always the slim chance that several hundred people travelling in a metal tube branded with the Qantas insignia will have plummeted thousands of feet to their doom.

Pretty fly for a white guy. Picture: Ray Strange

The CEOs of the Big Four Banks don’t have that problem. They fear falls of a less lethal kind. Wall Street plunges don’t kill. And unlike plane wrecks, there is always the chance of a rebound.

This might seem a dramatically ghoulish way to portray the inherent risks of two fundamentally different businesses, but it’s worth considering in light of Qantas’s paltry net profit of $43 million in the six months to December. Compare that to the $3 billion or so of the major banks and it’s like a Cessna to an A380.

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  • Buzz says:

    04:07pm | 17/02/12

    Agreed, a terrible business indeed. Ansett (and qantas) survived on Govt handouts that stopped when AIRNZ was forced to buy Ansett as part of the C.E.R. deal with NZ - the part Australia decided to change the rules late in the game. “if Thou wishes to fly internally in Austtalia… Read more »

  • Stuart says:

    04:07pm | 17/02/12

    I can’t imagine that any banker would want to run an airline or any other company.Not many other directors would get the benefits these guys get for ripping us off except polititions. Read more »

 

Here’s an elaborate conspiracy theory. In a dark corner of a scungy pub in the Sydney suburb of Marrickville, socialist double agent Alan Joyce is downing schooners of Tooheys New with Transport Minister and Left faction operative Anthony Albanese as they toast their collective success in making Labor relevant again.

Fifth columnist…Alan Joyce addresses the 4th International in Minsk. Photo: James Croucher

The Qantas chief executive may have unwittingly done more than anyone to get the Labor Party off the mat by bringing on a massive, nation-stopping industrial brawl which let the ALP remind the voters exactly what it stood for.

For many voters, that’s not necessarily a positive thing. In the minds of many people Julia Gillard’s handling of the Qantas dispute will have only reinforced their view that Labor remains the captive of union self-interest in an age when a minority of Australian workers is unionised. These people aren’t going to vote Labor anyway.

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How would you feel if you were the Qantas CEO and people were telling you loudly that they loved Virgin Australia as you were walking through the airport? For some, Alan Joyce is a hero for taking on the unions, but for others he is a person who should hear firsthand the distress suffered by those Qantas passengers stranded during the shutdown he ordered.

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Sadly, the debate for many has become centred on a particular individual. The CEO of a company should command wide ranging respect from all the company’s stakeholders. It’s certainly not enough to be loved by your management peers at other companies. They’re only good for giving you a new job if you leave the old one because you have lost the moral authority to succeed in your current position.

History will judge Alan Joyce as a CEO, but in the meantime Qantas management must stand collectively in being fully accountable for their recent decisions and for presenting a vision to get Qantas back on track as the great iconic company that it has been.

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  • Bruno says:

    12:39pm | 16/11/12

    They need to reduce all their costs, not just their staff and their maintenance.  One of the most expensive costs are those related to their aircraft themselves.  Qantas need to look at alternative aircraft that are more efficient and cheaper to fly.  It’s no go pruning back everything else and… Read more »

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    11:12am | 25/04/12

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What price forgiveness? Will a free plane ride make you take Qantas back into your heart? Will you once again feel a tickle of pride and fondness as the falsetto notes of ‘I Still Call Australia Home’ rise from those precocious young throats?

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For most people, the answer will be: “Hell yeah, and I’ll take one of those fluffy kangaroos home for the kids!”. We can’t sustain moral outrage for long, especially in the face of compensation.

The Qantas ‘crisis’ is a numbers game from start to finish, and it’s a game they’ll probably win.

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  • Linda says:

    07:14am | 08/11/11

    The industrial dispute WAS about safety and maintenance as well. So back to square one. Read more »

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Contempt ran deep for the old IR club with its protected unions and compulsory arbitration, spawning the short-lived “new right”, animating the HR Nicholls Society, and stiffening the resolve of a new wave of Liberals intent on dismantling a century of state-controlled employment relations and labour market rigidity.

Cartoon: Mark Knight

The anti-club’s high water mark was, however, its ultimate undoing: John Howard’s WorkChoices and the removal of the no-disadvantage test from individual work contracts.

This over-reach led to the 2007 defeat by Kevin Rudd and to the current Opposition Leader, Tony Abbott declaring at the 2010 poll that WorkChoices was: “dead, buried, cremated” - in that order! It wasn’t the end of the Liberal recant.

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    09:39am | 07/11/11

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  • St. Michael says:

    03:50pm | 05/11/11

    *spanks acotrel* What’re you doing? You know better than this! Read more »

 

An industrial dispute has two sides – employer and employee. The Qantas dispute had a very important third side – the innocent travelling public. How they see the dispute, and which side they blame, will be important in the backwash.

I've got it! We'll challenge Alan Joyce to a game of ping pong… winner takes all! Pic: Stuart McEvoy.

If they blame Qantas, the airline will have problems regaining, let alone improving, its share of the market. If they blame the unions, Qantas will have a strengthened bargaining position.

Did Qantas have any alternative to the extraordinary decision to ground the fleet? It was facing continuous scattergun strikes, and the unions involved were not showing any intention to try to come to a compromise. The grounding tactic was clever, in that it forced the government to bring Fair Work Australia into the game, with the result that the guerilla strikes were ended.

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  • Audrey says:

    10:12am | 31/05/12

    Veteran,I have many complaints about Qantas but I do not think this can be laid at their door. These were pacekts of snacks, so unless Qantas were keeping these in a really bad storage place, I cannot see how maggots can get into a sealed packet. This has to be… Read more »

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    02:54pm | 04/11/11

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Much of the public commentary around the Qantas dispute has been so undergraduate that you would think it had been authored by the people at Occupy Wall Street. But it is Qantas itself which invited much of the negative coverage by not thinking through its tactics last week ahead of the dramatic events of the weekend.

Let me run this airline. Photo: Nic Gibson

This dispute has at its centre a pretty simple question – does Qantas management have the right to manage Qantas? Or should Tony Sheldon from the Transport Workers Union have veto power over everything from how many staff the airline employs, when and where its aircraft hangars are built, who maintains its fleet, to whether it is allowed to expand into Asia?

I am not an aviation writer but at a guess I would say that as a former senior executive at Aer Lingus and the successfully expansionist boss of the fledgling airline Jetstar, Qantas chief executive Alan Joyce knows a bit more about running airlines than Tony Sheldon.

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  • mark says:

    12:08pm | 07/11/11

    so you support the mobilisation of Qantas maintenance services of shore or not? kinda hypocritical to complain about Joyces salary being X times biger than those staff on the ground, when those staff get paid X times the person in india just as qualified to do the same job. If… Read more »

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Alan Joyce seems to have copped the ire of just about everyone because he was the bloke announcing Saturday’s decision to ground the Qantas fleet

Cartoon: Warren Brown

The decision was understandably unpopular with those stranded travellers who had their plans thrown into disarray – and we can certainly all understand their anger and sympathise with them. 

But for every person affected by the 48 hours or so that Qantas wasn’t flying, there will be many more Qantas travellers over the next 21 days who have finally got certainty with the Fair Work Australia decision to disallow industrial action.  Moreover, those thinking of flying in the future will be able to book with Qantas with certainty.

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  • Kiran says:

    11:54am | 31/05/12

    I’m a bit mystified about the angst on both sides over who knew it was a pssiibolity beforehand. Foreknowledge implies early action or at the very least, a warning to passengers. What I find interesting is this. Had someone assumed that QANTAS planned to self-ground with almost immediate effect that… Read more »

 

First Alan, congratulations on your pay rise, and congratulations on Qantas’ profit in the last financial year. But sadly, I can’t congratulate you on your decision to take your bat and ball, and your aeroplanes, and go home.

Just some of the destinations you couldn't get to this week on Qantas thanks to the guy on the right. Pic: Alan Pryke

Let me make this clear, you had a lot of options to resolve this dispute, but you picked the nuclear option, the one that caused the most disruption to passengers and the tourism industry.

On Saturday you chose to become the CEO that stops the nation, grounding Qantas’ fleet and stranding thousands of people from outback doctors, foreign leaders, and Spring Carnival punters.

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  • Saskia says:

    05:07pm | 02/11/11

    The Union DID do this.  The Union caused this.  As stated by some Union twat “we are going to bake QANTAS slowly’.  What a grub. Go back to the 1880’s you Union hacks.  Unions have NO place running a business.  If you don’t like your job - quit and get… Read more »

  • Kev says:

    04:46pm | 02/11/11

    So, Ged Kearney the current president of the ACTU, pens an article supporting the unions who clearly stated their intentional tactic to “Slow Bake Qantas” via disruptive union actions, and also advised customers “not to buy Qantas tickets”, justifies the union thuggery by blaming Qantas for a very justified action… Read more »

 

Jesus motherloving Christ. If Alan Joyce is making a late bid for Twat of the Year 2011, then he’s eating daylight on his competitors. On Saturday the Qantas CEO shut down worldwide operations of one of the planet’s biggest airlines, in an over-reaction that made King Lear look pretty chill.

There's no one I'd rather have at the controls than a Qantas pilot

Like one of those seasoned chooks you get all ready for roasting, some things come pre-satirised. On Friday, Joyce asked shareholders at Qantas’ annual general meeting to give him a pay rise of 71 per cent, from under $3 million a year to about $5 million. They did. The next day, he shut down their company entirely, because of the “extreme demands” of workers. First prize, Alan. Believe.

Where unions have to give 72 hours notice of any action, Joyce gave zero hours. He stranded 68,000 people worldwide, upended the plans of tens of thousands more, and lost an unquantifiable number of future bookings.

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Update: In the very early hours of this morning Fair Work Australia terminated the chaotic industrial action between Qantas and the unions.Qantas says they expect flight to be grounded till 12noon today. With Alan Joyce telling the media flights may be back in the air by early afternoon today. Almost 70,000 passengers have been stranded in Australia and around the world.

“It’s good to fly Qantas,” said Tony Abbott, meaning to be heard, as yesterday afternoon he stepped from an aircraft at Canberra airport.

Back to work:Industrial action has now been terminated. Photo: Herald Sun

Actually the plane belonged to QantasLink, a related combine of three regional airlines, diverted from Mildura to pick up passengers in Melbourne.

But it was the closest any of us got to a Qantas service yesterday. And Tony Abbott is the closest that Qantas CEO Alan Joyce has to a friend in Australian public life at the moment.

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  • Ex-Qantas employee says:

    06:53am | 01/11/11

    @TimB and @Ben C “More importantly in your example, if the CEO was apparently so unnecessary during those eight months, why did they bother appointing one at the end?” When Qantas was a Government enterprise, the CEO was paid $350k pa.  When the airline was privatised, they waited 8 months… Read more »

 

Somewhere in California a student is having a laugh. His name is Alan Joyce and he holds the Twitter handle @Alanjoyce. A number of people, of whom I am one, wrongly added that name to tweets on the grounding of Qantas (If you’re so proud of taking the “hard decision” how about making one about your pay @alanjoyce ? #qantas).

Altogether now: I still call Australia home. Pic: Sam Ruttyn

Fellow tweeps pointed out the error and corrections were quickly posted. I even apologized to Mr @alanjoyce, somewhat pointlessly as the Stanford student understands full well that he does not run an airline any more than the former Hawthorn coach (Alan Joyce) does.

The reason my @alanjoyce tweet got a life of its own was that so many people apparently agreed with the sentiment and retweeted it. Some did not agree but retweeted it too.

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  • D Kef. says:

    07:38pm | 22/02/12

    I have managed to save out of my pensions for an annual overseas trip most years. Used to be Qantas. Now any airline but. Until AJ is gone. Read more »

 

If you’re willing to sleep around, don’t be surprised if your partner gives you the cold shoulder.

Blue skies ahead? Pic: qantas.com.au.

This week the nation cried foul at the thought of Qantas, our beloved flying kangaroo, shooting through to Asia.

First of all, Qantas hasn’t done a runner. As CEO Alan Joyce says, the company is looking to shed 1000 of its 35,000-strong Australian workforce and establish two news carriers in Asia to increase its global competitiveness.

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  • Kika says:

    01:01pm | 23/08/11

    ahaha totally agree. We bemoan Qantas for bad service but expect them to be of Asian quality? Hello! They are lazy Aussies just like we are. Hahaha. Read more »

  • Kika says:

    12:43pm | 23/08/11

    I don’t get it. We herald Qantas for being ‘safe’ yet when it comes down the bottom line we’ll fly Singapore Airlines or Malaysian because they are cheaper. Does safety concerns play a role when you fly with them instead? Read more »

 

Reading the massive Qantas wraparound ads in the papers yesterday, you could be excused for thinking Qantas was set to employ 11 year old junior lifeguards as cabin crew.

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The spin-heavy ad campaign had the tagline “There’s a new spirit”, and was a backdrop to the announcement that Qantas would restructure itself by cutting 1,000 of its 35,000 staff, while also peparing to set up a new premium service in Asia.

Qantas has long relied on the feelgood factor in its marketing. You know that fantastic feeling when you touch down at an Australian airport after a trip overseas? Qantas has successfully bottled and sold that emotion. It’s our country. Our airline. You bloody beauty. Last night, however, many people voiced concerns that our airline was slipping away. And boy, did Qantas CEO Alan Joyce come out swinging in its defence.

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  • Jerra says:

    06:03pm | 18/08/11

    Qantas has had a jet airliner accident… in Bangkok.  They even spent something like $150m to fix it so it was only an ‘incident’ not a ‘accident’.  That’s looking after the brand in it’s most crass terms. Read more »

  • Zopo says:

    11:59am | 18/08/11

    I do agree with the notion through of what is the point of a brand if it is just a logo. A companies culture is also much a part of the brand as the logo. I always look to QANTAS when flying overseas but always pick another airline as they… Read more »

 

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