Obama -v- Romney: America decides

The most talked about feature of the US presidential election was the demographic and spatial divides long suspected but suddenly very clearly in view.

No bull, these fellas matters to our national dialogue. Pic: Warren Clarke

David Taylor in his article Republican White Guys Don’t Jump highlights that only 690 of more than 3000 counties on the US went the Obama’s way on election night, meaning essentially that the cities - younger, more ethnically diverse and more educated - chose Mr Obama. The rural areas - older, whiter, less educated - went for Mr Romney.

A glance at Australia suggests that we have the same issues in play. The heavily divided and often bitter political debate is a reality. Our sparsely populated rural areas continue to favour the conservative side of politics while the inner city votes progressive. Regional areas are also less culturally diverse, less educated and ageing faster than our metropolitan areas.

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  • Nev says:

    04:50pm | 06/02/13

    I agree Porloc, in that the disconnect is huge between city/urban and regional australia, I don’t know whether its just out of mind out of sight or really could care less, I think its true to say australia doesn’t value primary industries, which is kind of strange since they depend… Read more »

  • Nev says:

    04:17pm | 06/02/13

    Give us a break JIm we’re selling it to them as quick as we can. In fact any foreigner, doesn’t have to be the PRC come on down to the Farms are us store and grab a bargain while it lasts! Read more »

 

Back in March, when the US presidential election campaign was in its early stages, the Washington Post newspaper awarded Barack Obama four Pinocchios.

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This signified that, in the eyes of the newspaper’s full-time political fact-checker, the president had been caught out telling a blatant porkie.

Obama had claimed that Grover Cleveland, who served two terms as president in the late 19th century, disliked technology and was opposed to the telephone.

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  • Achmed says:

    07:14pm | 10/11/12

    Yep Laurie did tell the truth about Abbott Read more »

  • Tator says:

    07:04pm | 10/11/12

    Kathy, even at 50-50, the Coalition will have a better chance of forming government as they only need to win one of either Oakshotts or Windsors seats which is not as far as they already have Katter’s support and Crook has come across to the Coaliton with the rest of… Read more »

 

Julia Gillard and Tony Abbott will be closely looking at how Barack Obama won the US election as they lock in their strategy for next year’s federal poll. It is not about winning the most votes as Kim Beazley found out the hard way in the 1998 GST election.

Winning election's not all flipping sausages

It is about winning enough votes in the right seats.

The key to Obama’s victory over Mitt Romney was winning the battleground states, such as Ohio. Not by big margins but by enough. In Australia, it’s battleground seats that matter. Abbott’s focus is on specific seats in Victoria, NSW, Queensland and Tasmania. Gillard’s targets are in Queensland and Western Australia and to hold what she’s got in Victoria, NSW and Tasmania. The focus will be on less than one-third of the 150 seats being contested.

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  • sunny says:

    06:45pm | 09/11/12

    That’s a load of crud. I’m not in his electorate but straight talking Tony Windsor would be the very first person I would vote for in this parliament. Even Rob Oakeshott who I initially thought was a rambling twit has gone on to display a lot of common sense in… Read more »

  • Achmed says:

    06:39pm | 09/11/12

    Not3ed that the comments don’t address tthe questions. Not even the Liberal supporters can defend or explain what will happen. They expect us to accept it all on face value.  After 2010, once bitten twice shy Read more »

 

There was plenty for Julia Gillard and Tony Abbott to reflect on yesterday, as US President Barack Obama dramatically clinched a second term.

No hung parliament here

A little stability at the top of America is a good thing for Oz when it comes to a number of issues.

Gillard’s Treasury boffins will welcome the fact that Obama’s laws cracking down on Wall St will remain in place - and will help ward off future financial crises in the vein of 2008.

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  • CA says:

    06:56pm | 08/11/12

    Oh gee, to be mates with the boss,              http://frontpagemag.com/2012/matthew-vadum/obama-gives-446-million-to-acorn-veteran/ Read more »

  • Shane From Melbourne says:

    06:38pm | 08/11/12

    Guess you hadn’t heard that Putin has dismissed his Defence Minister for corruption. Which is a bit like handing out a speeding ticket at a Grand Prix. Somebody better tell those bad Pussy Riot girls that such dissidence will not be tolerated in freedom loving Russia….. Read more »

 

President Obama has dramatically clinched a second term in the White House.

Here's to another four years

FOX News and CNN called the result for the president minutes ago, after crucial swing states fell into the President’s column.

The candidates needed 270 electoral votes to win the presidency. Here’s Puncher Paul Toohey’s explainer on how the electoral college system works.

For all the latest, follow the rolling coverage over at News.com.au. We’ll be here with you with our take on it as we get a clearer picture of what’s happening.

Tell us what you think below!

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  • stephen says:

    06:56pm | 07/11/12

    Right now he’s the best man for the job. He has a very clever team of Foreign Affairs experts as advisors ... and I have to say, he’ll need them. Read more »

  • PW says:

    06:55pm | 07/11/12

    Who won the election? Obama. Who won the election? Obama. Seems resounding enough to me. Read more »

 

Roseanne Barr is just one of the third party candidates standing at the US election, the votes of which are being tallied today. She’s standing for the Peace and Freedom Party. Chances of winning? Not high.

Winners are grinners

We should have some idea of how things are looking as results start to flow in around 11:30am AEST. Live rolling news coverage on News.com.au and all the best perspective here at The Punch.

It’s Wednesday. What’s on your mind?

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  • Knemon says:

    05:17pm | 07/11/12

    Just listened to Barack Obama’s victory speech, wow, he is by far the best orator I have ever listened to, and I couldn’t give a damn about his policies, what a speech, I don’t often get physically emotional listening to politicians bathe in glory, but I was certainly moved by… Read more »

  • Robyn says:

    04:54pm | 07/11/12

    As I said yesterday (and the day before), not even Julie Bishop has ever entertained such a ridiculous notion. Never, ever, ever gonna happen. Read more »

 

Mitt Romney should not be president, period. To suggest so is to flagrantly ignore the long list of gaffes, missteps, and contradictions that have characterised Romney’s campaign, and to further ignore the dangerous and destructive force that both he and the Republican Party represents. Romney’s substance consists of nothing more than scapegoats, bad policy and poor charisma.

Wave goodbye to your reproductive rights! Photo: AFP

Conservatives have heavily criticised “the liberal media” for portraying Romney as an extremist, but how much of that is true?

Take women’s reproductive rights, for example. Romney has flip-flopped on the issue of abortion since 1994, ranging from completely pro-choice, to completely anti-choice, and now he lies somewhere in-between.

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  • Christian Real says:

    06:18pm | 06/11/12

    James Does your parents know you are on the computer?,maybe they should put a parental lock on it so that you can’t try to cause mischief in the blogs. You my friend are the one being juvenile my friend,when you grow up enough come back and talk with the adults. Read more »

  • Utopia Boy says:

    06:14pm | 06/11/12

    Well written Josh. The USA is in a mess, pricipally because the Democrats don’t have the numbers to push through their legislation, as what happened with Whitlam. During the initial phases of the post GFC rebuild of the USA, Obama should have called an election as soon as his proposals… Read more »

 

Mitt Romney is not a stylish politician. He will never match the uplifting rhetoric or easy charm of current US President Barack Obama. But if this week’s presidential election were to be decided purely on substance, Romney would win in a landslide.

He's more than just a hair do… Picture: AP

For months, Democrats have depicted Romney as an extreme, uncaring plutocrat who wants to steal from the poor and give to the rich. President Obama, who promised to change the tone of politics for the better four years ago, has made the personal destruction of his opponent the centrepiece of his reelection strategy.

There’s just one problem. Romney doesn’t fit the caricature. In fact, his policies would do far more to help disadvantaged Americans than anything Obama has offered.

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  • Made in USSR says:

    05:58pm | 05/11/12

    My bet is with Romney, in the end he did promised to attack the “crazed fanatic” with a “dirty bomb” as soon as possible.  I imagine this should be enough for these elections. Read more »

  • evelyn says:

    05:55pm | 05/11/12

    Mr Romney does have a plan but it rests on one crucial assumption, that tax cuts will stimulate the U.S. economy sufficient to produce enough jobs to eliminate unemployment and pay back lost revenue. This assumes that the tax cuts will be invested and not saved, that small business will… Read more »

 

The US Elections and the railways are long-standing bedfellows. No campaign during the 1800s would be complete without a ‘whistle stop tour’ – when candidates would charter trains to take them to the voters they hoped would carry them into office. This month I set out on my American Quest, travelling by train into the heart of some of this election’s most contentious issues, via some of its most keenly contested states.

Vote early, vote often… Obama casts his ballot in his home town of Chicago last week. Picture: AP

Amtrak’s California Zephyr is one of the US national rail operator’s most famous services. This double decked train, with its iconic 1970s carriages, takes 48 hours to travel from Chicago to San Francisco. On the way it rolls from Obama’s Illinois heartland, through the critical swing state of Iowa and into rural Nebraska. It travels on via independent and unpredictable Colorado, to Romney’s Mormon base in Utah, and the beautiful Sierra Nevada. Finally, 4000 kilometres later, it arrives in California, and one of the world’s most liberal cities: San Francisco.

You would be hard pushed to find a more diverse slice of America, and that is precisely what we discovered on our trip.

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  • stephen says:

    04:27pm | 01/11/12

    Obama is OK, but he does not want to get hoodwinked by Iran. It and Egypt - which is now very unstable, and in all ways -  may want to convolute a pact with Hezbollah to further destabilize Syria. May be already happening, and I reckon that the entry wound… Read more »

  • Greg says:

    02:19pm | 01/11/12

    @Reality Check, voter ID laws don’t disenfranchise anybody. You are telling lies. The truth is that anybody who is eligible to vote can still vote. All they have to do is verify their identity, with one of many approved sources of ID. Furthermore, free government issued IDs are available to… Read more »

 

Natural disasters can be horrific and Australians have suffered our fair share over the years. Australians generally have a big heart when it comes to large scale calamities and are often the first to reach into their pockets following disasters locally and around the world.

Howard and Bligh handled catastrophes with aplomb. Whether Obama will might save him

However the cold political reality is that a hurricane like the one battering the US East Coast is often the saviour political operators within the ranks of the incumbent party secretly hope for.

It’s not some cynical commenter’s view but rather a historical political fact. Times of civil upheaval on a local, national and often global level generally favour the incumbent.

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  • lower_case_andrew says:

    06:34pm | 31/10/12

    Tell us how you really feel Geronimo. Read more »

  • JTZ says:

    06:23pm | 31/10/12

    @Geronimo I will be notifying the ANZMI to see if they can verify you are a actual vet or someone who is full of it and never servied a day in Nam. What battalion where you in. Read more »

 

The way the American media reported it, the second debate between Barack Obama and Mitt Romney during the week was a bruising, bare-knuckle affair—the roughest and most aggressive presidential debate ever. Crocodile Dundee comes to mind. “That wasn’t aggressive. THIS is aggressive.”

Ha, ha, ha, those damn Aussies have no idea how much this new campaigning costs… Picture: AFP

The Democratic president and his Republican challenger presented their arguments forcefully, and there was plenty of needle in the contest. But, compared with what we’ve become used to in Australia in recent times, they were remarkably respectful towards each other in the language they used.

The most offensive term I heard during the 90 minute telecast was “offensive”. Although each man was out to convince the massive TV audience that his opponent was telling untruths, neither uttered the word “lie”.

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  • Gregg says:

    06:59pm | 20/10/12

    @soames, Saturday jokes is it for I doubt the NBN is at all popular and just look at take up rates. As for ” They just don’t get technology and social media. Case in point the NBN. After initially failing in their goto strategy of “let the private sector do… Read more »

  • Peter says:

    06:48pm | 20/10/12

    “Most Australians support the Republicans” - where did you get that from? Read more »

 

Obama is weak and has made America timid. Obama is more a follower than a leader; a passive figure lacking clarity, lacking purpose and lacking resolve. He has deserted past and potential allies, and is guilty of allowing the Middle East to become a more dangerous region than when he took office.

Remember how well this went? Picture: AP

It’s less than a month to the US Presidential election, and as the focus turns from domestic to foreign policy, these are the charges being levelled against the incumbent by Republican challenger Mitt Romney.

Speaking at the Virginia Military Institute in Washington recently, Romney prevailed on those gathered that the country couldn’t afford another four years of failure, passiveness and receding influence. That its best hope for realising a so-called ‘American century’, securing its dominant economic, political and cultural influence, is his elevation to the oval office. It’s a message he reiterated in yesterday’s town hall debate in Hampstead, New York.

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  • Andrew says:

    06:08pm | 18/10/12

    Problem Jm is that would mean going outside of anyone here on the punch and actually finding a journalist in Australia who is neutral, has some common sense (can think foe themselves, and not fall for all the BS on both sides) and knows something about America and the rest… Read more »

  • Andrew says:

    06:05pm | 18/10/12

    Wow rachel you didnt even listen did you, you just fell hook line and sinker for the lefts BS didnt you. What he said was that when jhe first got the job (at gov of massachusset I think but it may had been something else) he asked foe applicants for… Read more »

 

So the sleepyhead woke up. Whassup, Barack?

Obama bothered to show up this time

Lefties in the US were about to jump a fortnight ago, when the president lamely waffled his way through the first debate. Obama had his large cappuccino this time around. With his back against the wall today at the second “town hall debate”, the prez was the clear winner of a duel that featured questions from undecided Americans.

That’s not to say Romney didn’t sell himself well. He always sells himself well. He certainly has one flash haircare regimen to keep it grey only at the temples. He was especially convincing, and perhaps befuddling, when reeling off a string of stats about how Obama’s economy is down in the dumps.

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  • james says:

    01:45pm | 18/10/12

    Year 2000 PeterD, the federal debt reduced by 2%. Clinton was the president then. But is was ok for Reagan to increase the debt by 189% or bush by 89%, that was real good. Read more »

  • PeterD says:

    12:58pm | 18/10/12

    james Clinton did NOT run a surplus. Clinton ran deficits throught all 8 years of his presidency, as can be verified by going to the US Treasury Department website and looking through the history of the total outstanding debt. Every year Clinton was in office, the total national debt continued… Read more »

 

The US election is going to be a squeaker. An absolute squeaker, if the presidential debate today (mostly about the US economy and the president’s health care reforms) was any indication.

Only smiling because he won. Picture: AFP

Obama sounded like he needed a strong cup of coffee. Maybe with a double shot of something much stronger.

He was lethargic and mathematical - sometimes incomprehensibly so. That was particularly the case in the first half of the debate, which focused on the economy.

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  • Jo says:

    08:39pm | 04/10/12

    It’s just so incredibly unfair the media have made Obama the golden boy, when it is obvious the man has no business management or financial sense. I’m astonished at the total block on accountability. Obama is never asked any serious questions, even when it’s starkly obvious the man’s got alot… Read more »

  • Spruiker says:

    07:34pm | 04/10/12

    Romney will win. There’s no doubt. Americans won’t want commie health care and will want a tax cut for the rich so they can give them more $7 an hour jobs! Read more »

 

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