Punch writers on beer, booze and society

Food producers love a good study, particularly one that finds that some ingredient or trace element in their product has some miraculous property found to cure cancer in rats.

A group of health enthusiasts with their special beer-carrying receptacle.

Such studies are guaranteed to make headlines around the world and lead to an aura being cast over their product. The wine industry in particular is the master of the self-serving study, with red wine being attributed all sorts of miraculous properties that should see it treated like the waters at Lourdes.

The chocolate industry has also discovered the value of good publicity and the media has recently reported chocolate manufacturing giants Mars and Barry Callebaut AG have announced a cross-industry partnership to promote the health benefits of cocoa flavanols.

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  • No Brainer says:

    09:34am | 10/03/10

    There’s an old adage that goes something like this… “The first casualty of war is the truth!” Well, tragically in the age of corporate war waged for the ruthless acquisition of profit, you are going to have the same problem. Weapons in this war are as bombastic as any other;… Read more »

  • DocBud says:

    09:26am | 08/03/10

    “People like you”, Julie, would be anyone who demands new regulations whenever they perceive the need to protect other grown adults from themselves. “There should be a ban by the AMA on these ever being published”. That would be advocating trampling on free speech. “There are many consumers who will… Read more »

 

Dear Mr Rudd, can I just say this that while there are no silver bullets to the problem could you take some decisive action, when it comes to your use of cliché; as working families would prefer you take whatever action is necessary to end your use of the phrase “course of action”? 

Phew – the top seven Rudd clichés all in one sentence. I think I might just need a drink, in due season…

As parliament resumes today, The Punch decided it might be worthwhile to use the Parliamentary Hansard take a look at Prime Minister’s favourite parliamentary clichés of 2009.

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  • Sandra says:

    03:55am | 24/02/10

    I noted the potential for a drinking game in the lead up to the Rudd Howard “Mass Debate” in 2007. The imbibe-word was “working families” and I noted this wryly on a forum. Responses along the theme of “liver damage” suggest that the electorate was already weary of “working families”… Read more »

  • Grid says:

    08:06pm | 03/02/10

    Can we please get rid of this twit the only thing he has got right is leaving the country, if only he’d stay gone. I agree Carmen but this is like passing a truck. I check in the bowl every day to see if hes there. (p.s. George Harrison wrote… Read more »

 

It was around 11 in the morning and Aunty Mavis came to the door. It had been raining: her wig was askew and her badly drawn on eyebrows were running down into her eyes. As usual, she had a bottle of Stone’s Green Ginger wine in a string bag.

It was just before lunchtime and my sisters and I were sitting around the Formica table in my grandparents’ kitchen shelling peas onto newspaper, preparing for a baked dinner. She came in and was drinking with Nanna who was peeling potatoes in the sink. Grandad was out the back, drunk, listening to the races.

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  • Ben says:

    06:38pm | 26/02/10

    The problem with using the description of Alcoholism as an illness that the “sufferers” have no control over always tends to be an effort to deflect responsibility.  At some stage, there was a choice involved to jump on the wagon and so I don’t think it is comparable to other… Read more »

  • cunt says:

    01:54am | 25/02/10

    Gerard Oosterman says:08:34am | 01/02/10 And if you can’t give alcohol a miss even for one day, and you start getting hallucinations and seeing crawling insects everywhere, you start losing everything in your life and end up in hospitals numerous times, chances are you will end up in a jail… Read more »

 

It’s the kind of thing that would get you pelted with stones in the town square in less civilised countries. So as a celebration of our freedoms I’ll say it. Australia Day is a load of rubbish.

Aussie. Aussie. Aussie.

And it is increasingly celebrating the worst aspects of our national character, where rather than being a day for thoughtful reflection on our history and our values, it’s starting to look more a half-witted contest to see how much meat you can eat and how much grog you can sink.

This isn’t a wowser’s warning against barbecues and beer. Far from it. I’m a keen supporter of binge-drinking, I’ve never met a meat product I didn’t adore, and I think the likes of NSW Police Commissioner Andrew Scipione and federal Health Minister Nicola Roxon should quit their day jobs and seek formal employment as nannies, such is their enthusiasm for treating adults like babies and criminalising fun.

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  • Loving australia day says:

    05:15pm | 21/02/10

    i love australia day its the time for every in this nation to get to together Read more »

  • Dennis says:

    01:42pm | 09/02/10

    Australia Day? Rename it Yobofest. Read more »

 

That’s it. We’ve arrived at what is officially termed the Dizzy Limit.

Welcome to Sydney, can we offer you some Fanta?

NSW Police, warming to their recent self-appointment as a freelance social policy think tank, trustee of public morality and holy rolling temperance society, have announced that Australia Day should be as dry as the Nullarbor Plain. Starting now.

They have reasonable cause. Shockingly, some people treat such occasions as an opportunity to get on the squirt and a small minority of those consequently get stupid and some proportion of those play up and a fraction of those become violent and commit felonies.

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  • Anon says:

    06:31pm | 20/01/10

    Bit rich from a bloke who was Chief of Staff while the bikie legislation went through, criminalising, for the first time in hundreds of years of common law practice, the simple act of being in company with another person. Noble sentiments indeed, but not what this fella practiced when he… Read more »

  • Poider says:

    12:32pm | 19/01/10

    I reckon some boss was sucking up to Skippy.  Jeez, the New South Wales coppers getting fussed about people getting on the piss?  Whatever happened to the old line that you’re no good as a copper if you can’t do the job pissed as well as sober?  Bloody wowser bosses. Read more »

 

Impartiality is everything in journalism but at the risk of sounding slightly biased it’s fair to say that if the NSW Government were a dog you would take it down to the bottom of the yard and shoot it.

Romance blossoms among the tough-on-crime photo opportunity. Picture: Daniel Shaw.

Discussing the innate and irreversible badness of the NSW Government is about the most banal thing you can do these days. If anything this may be its most evil legacy – the cruelling of casual political discussion.

It’s like the inspired Gary Larson cartoon featuring nerds in hell - “Hot enough for ya?” – where remarking that NSW seems to be in political strife is as profound and insightful as noting that Germany has a bit of a chequered history, the Cuban economy could probably be doing better, or that Afghanistan has historically under-invested in infrastructure.

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  • Arios says:

    11:17pm | 10/01/10

    As someone who never has anything to hide and never drinks myself silly, but definitely enjoys a couple of drinks in moderation every now and then, I wouldn’t mind if police came up to me and had a chat, good on them for caring and keeping an eye on things.… Read more »

  • cats says:

    04:57pm | 20/12/09

    Maybe if they made Weed legal (like it should be) the problem with alcohol will lessen somewhat. When people smoke weed, it is very, very unlikely they are going to harm someone else, it is almost impossible to overdose on, doesn’t give you a hangover, and if people smoke it… Read more »

 

How times change. When I started working in an office a little over 20 years ago, you could still smoke at your desk. In fact, when you were shown the stationary cabinet on your first day in a new job you could kit yourself out with a stapler and sticky-tape dispenser as well as an ashtray.

Sadly the pewter beer tankard has fallen out of fashion.

In those days, ‘smoking or non-smoking?’ was an everyday question when checking in for an airline flight’, you watched the Benson & Hedges World Series Cup over summer and the Winfield Cup over winter and the back cover of almost every women’s magazine carried an ad featuring an attractive blonde, a beach, acres of cheesecloth and a packet Alpine.

At about the same time blokes would go to the beach in the middle of the day, shirtless and hatless, while women would lay for hours baking themselves to a golden brown while occasionally basting themselves with coconut oil. Sun protection was not standard work issue for workers out of doors and sunshirts and sensible hats had the same sartorial appeal as sandals with long socks.

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  • Alexandra Coffey says:

    01:08pm | 20/01/10

    Funny. Read more »

  • david says:

    10:56pm | 19/12/09

    Well Matt, you certainly have some nutters reading your blog now. Better you than me! I was going to say why bother participating in the debate - there is no point arguing with some people. But then we need someone to fight the good fight so please keep up the… Read more »

 

If you read the headlines, late-night violence in Melbourne is out of control.

Just another night out on the beers in Melbourne.Photo: Mike Keating.

To a degree this is true, but we have little chance of curbing the problem with illogical solutions.

Take some of the measures proposed in the past fortnight, for example. Firstly, there was the party promoter who banned “metrosexuals” from the Ding Dong Lounge.

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  • Knightyme says:

    03:07am | 29/11/09

    Further to my comment above. The DL smart card would also enforce a 0% blood alcohol limit for at least 50% of the time someone is on restricted Alcohol conditions. I say restricted, because I think it fair(ish) that they cant buy alcohol but their friends can.  The catch is… Read more »

  • TLC says:

    03:51pm | 27/11/09

    So true. The best statement I read in years. Read more »

 

We live in an environment where alcohol is under siege.

Every day we are assailed with stories of glassings, drunken and rampaging footballers, binge drinking and all manner of other incidents pointing to an alcohol-fuelled end of civilisation.

Every day our politicians are making new suggestions about how to solve the problem, including today’s suggestion from the Prime Minister: confronting advertising campaigns to warn young Australians about the dangers of excessive drinking.

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  • Jim Pettigrove says:

    11:16pm | 06/12/09

    But then , looking at him,two pot screamer instantly comes to mind Oldbugger Read more »

  • Sam says:

    05:36pm | 15/11/09

    Please dont tell people how to live their lives.. who exactly do you think you are? Read more »

 

Shane Scott almost made it. He was just 700m from his home when the motorbike he was riding - after drinking six or seven cans of Jack Daniels and cola at the pub - left the road. He died.

The Australian's Peter Nicholson today

Before getting on his bike he had argued with the publican and convinced him to let him make the 7km ride home. Shortly before giving him the keys, the publican had asked for his wife’s phone number so he could give her a call and get her to come pick Scott up. Scott’s response, according to the publican, was: “If I want you to ring my f**kin’ wife, I’d f**kin’ ask ya.”

But crucially, according to people who were there that night, Scott didn’t seem drunk. He told the publican he was fine to ride home. Now the High Court has decided the publican shouldn’t be held responsible for what happened in a ruling that backs what any bartender working under responsible service laws will tell you - it’s often impossible to tell when someone is on their ear.

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  • Dichotomous Enigma says:

    09:40am | 27/11/09

    Let’s hope this principle is extended to all those situations (especially those involving violence) where smart-arsed lawyers are currently able to claim that their client was too drunk to form intention. Intention to perform a violent act should be deemed to occur concurrently with the decision to drink to excess.… Read more »

  • JN says:

    12:11am | 13/11/09

    Johnsa said:  The patron exercised GOOD judgment in handing over his keys. He was trying to protect himself. yes he did do the right thing by handing his keys over, but then he went against his word saying that he would get his wife to pick him up. It says… Read more »

 

Well another day and yet another useless decision on alcohol.

A woman passed out at the Melbourne Cup. Photo John Hargest

Victoria Police will today continue their blitz on drunks at races with the running of the Oaks at Flemington.

Now it’s great that police are targeting these people to stop alcohol fuelled violence, but I personally don’t believe it’s the right course of action.

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  • DG says:

    02:04pm | 06/11/09

    J (01:25pm | 06/11/09) “So now ordinary people have to monitor their behavior at public events or else they risk unflattering photos being plastered all over news internet sites” I’m genuinely worried that it takes a photo on the internet to make some people realise that they should monitor their… Read more »

  • J of WF says:

    01:57pm | 06/11/09

    J: If people are silly enough to get smashed in a public setting and place themselves at risk then they do run the risk of having their picture splashed across the national media. I’m not a wowser, Ive been very very drunk in public and I’m infinitely lucky that I… Read more »

 

You would think a drug that causes more than one in ten suicides, thousands of child abuse cases, and one in three road accidents would be outlawed.

Not chance, of course, because that’s alcohol. Cannabis, on the other hand, mostly causes feelings of wellbeing.

Debate over the relative harms of drugs has been raging this week. Most of the debate has been in the UK, where government drug advisor Professor David Nutt has been sacked for, in essence, arguing that drugs should be categorised according to the harm they cause. Crazy, huh?

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  • The Voice of Reason says:

    11:09pm | 18/11/09

    What I don’t understand is that we are all supposed to be free and drug taking has been part of our society since the dawn of time. Drugs did not just pop into existence 70 years ago and most people when talking of drugs its always drugs AND alcohol, attempting… Read more »

  • German says:

    09:48am | 07/11/09

    @Stuart: “Only a dope smoking dope would publish something so stupid. Go and do some on the ground research and speak to kid in a psych ward and then write your article.” That is maybe one of the stupidest stuff I have read in my whole life… I have people… Read more »

 

Did I read the story correctly? Now police can’t even fine a person for drunken behaviour in public places? Time to get serious with the idiots who drink to excess, befoul public spaces, wreck the ‘quiet enjoyment’ of others, and divert our accident and emergency teams…

You're nicked: police move in at a wild party in Sydney's west last Saturday.

Here’s the basic principle – if your drunkenness results in police officers, or ambulance officers, or hospital teams, having to deal with you, you pay the full cost of this intervention – call it the ‘abuser pays’ principle.

Now I’d be in favour of bringing back the charge of public drunkenness, but I suspect that the paperwork involved these days for police officers in processing someone charged with an offence deters them from doing so, and we probably don’t have the cell space available.

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  • tek says:

    08:46am | 06/11/09

    I’m 31 years old, and have been binge-drinking for, say 13 years. I love going out, and quite often I drink too much. Often I must been obnoxious, stubborn, boring and/or bad company in general. And at the time I probably thought I was being witty or insightful. I dance… Read more »

  • Josh Trevarthen says:

    04:22pm | 05/11/09

    You can pick at the leaves of a weed all you like and it’ll probably grow stronger than ever, or you can pull the sucker out from the root. It’s requires a fundamental change in our not-as-smart-as-we-think western socities, which means wide open minds in government…a laughable proposition! Alcohol is… Read more »

 

If blokes are honest, most of us would admit to behaving differently when there are no women around. While the extent of the change varies from guy to guy, most of us do things and say things we wouldn’t dream of doing or saying in female company.

Boys will be boys: especially when they're surrounded by boys.

Usually it’s low-level yobbo stuff - drunken anecdotes, sexual innuendo, a sneaky wee on the lemon tree – but for a minority of screwed-up blokes it involves a complete personality transformation where they drift into a shocking moral orbit, their macho posturing cheered on by their equally boorish buddies.

In the context of sport, particularly in light of Brendan Fevola’s unravelling and the car crash quality of Wayne Carey’s memoir, it’s clear that for many of our sporting heroes, life has been one extended boy’s night.

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  • Bev says:

    01:02am | 02/11/09

    Having read the comments their are good and bad comments on both sides but my feeling is nobody nhas really addressed the problem.  It is no mistake that societies in the past had “mens business” and “womens business”  in which pubesent children were schooled in what was expected of them… Read more »

  • Tory Maguire

    Tory Maguire says:

    03:34pm | 28/10/09

    Hi Kelly, I agree that at the time you posted Punching On only contained one woman, but in our defence that section changes constantly and quite often the ratio is reversed. Tors. Read more »

 

There are plenty of normal Australians – normal being defined as prone to uncharacteristic lapses of judgment – who have a dark tale involving an incident of drink-driving where they could easily have killed themselves, a friend, an unsuspecting stranger.

Same again mate? Errrrr, not sure…

Whenever I see former British Prime Minister Tony Blair I’m reminded of mine. Unlike most of my mates I got through my teens and most of my 20s without ever drink-driving, in large part because I didn’t bother getting my licence until I was 22 and escaped the road-related rattiness that comes with youth.

All except for the day of the 1997 British election, when with friends I’d attended a dawn breakfast at the National Press Club in Canberra to watch the BBC coverage, where we ate a hearty English breakfast laid on by the British High Commission, washed down with English beer. Lots of English beer.

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  • cats says:

    05:30pm | 29/12/09

    24 hour public transport will make a huge difference in the amount of people drink driving. It would also solve a lot of the fighting over cabs and other things that people do when they are drunk. I drink drive occasionally, but i wouldn’t do it at all if the… Read more »

  • Steve says:

    11:27am | 29/12/09

    People in this society are afraid of living. You want gates around everything, rules for everything so theres someone to blame when things go wrong… Want to childproof the whole world for adults? why dont you just stay inside your house and never leave! stop looking for people to blame… Read more »

 

Remember the Alanis Morissette song Ironic?

Image from an Australian federal government anti binge-drinking campaign.

It was pretty popular around the time I was introduced to alcohol and it also rang in my ears as I read that researchers at Liverpool John Moores University in the UK are advising an “alcohol allowance” to help prevent today’s teens from “falling into …the binge drinking trap”.

That’s right. They believe it’s inherently safer for teenagers to be given alcohol rations from their parents than be left to their own devices, hooking up with friends and buying from pubs or off-licences with a fake ID.

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  • LSSL says:

    01:24am | 15/10/09

    Lucy, Yeah sorry but that’s not irony, it’s just counterintuitive. Some research- before you go and slam the attitudes towards alcohol of other nations- wouldn’t go astray, as you seem to have missed the point. In France and Germany especially, most minors are introduced to alcohol by their parents in… Read more »

  • AK says:

    04:31pm | 14/10/09

    I agree with TDMG - Except from the opposite perspective.  Growing up I was never given alcohol to try or taste (not because of strict parents, just because I guess it never occurred to them to be an option) And as a result the first couple of times I tried… Read more »

 

A good bit of campaign journalism was launched in Melbourne yesterday by the Sunday Herald Sun in throwing open the debate on whether the drink driving limit should be dropped to .02.

.Freshen your drink governor?

The Sunday reported that 39 people had been killed in Victoria alone in accidents involving drivers under the .005 mark in just the last five years.

Victoria’s Deputy Police Commissioner has tentatively backed the debate, if not quite advocating an actual change to .02

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  • Dave Munro says:

    08:47am | 05/11/09

    Citycentric talk as usual. The current limit allows us country folk, who will never have access to public transport, the opportunity to have a few beers at the local possibly 30km away. The country pub is the community hub and a lower limit would put the final nail in the… Read more »

  • Callum Ryan says:

    02:56pm | 04/11/09

    I think that the level shouldn’t be lowered because a lot of people behave at parties and are responsible and keep ther BAC level below 0.05 and don’t get fined and if the level is dropped they will get fined! Read more »

 

I did something pretty unusual on Saturday night.  Well, unusual for me. I had a quiet one.

Just another night of sparkling conversation, hilarious jokes and dignity. Picture: Brad Hunter

I declined various invitations to meet up with mates at a gig, a house party and a pub.  Instead I grabbed a likeminded friend whose liver also needed a night off. We headed to the cinema, donned some 3D goggles, sat through a pretty enjoyable movie and then headed home.

Why did I ‘waste’ a perfectly good weekend party-night? Truthfully I was tired and completely happy to just throw on my comfy jeans.

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  • D says:

    07:34pm | 21/12/09

    Very entertaining reading!! Michael & Teetolla pothead you are both pretty spot on. Read more »

  • John Williamson says:

    08:20am | 05/10/09

    Teetolla Pothead - are you currently ripped? Read more »

 

In an effort to be seen doing something about alcohol-related violence in Melbourne, the Victorian Government is toughening up its enforcement of laws around security staff for venues.

Former bouncer Dravko Micevic who was aquitted of the manslaughter of cricketer David Hookes

Music venues around Melbourne are getting hounded by a group of almost 50 inspectors to enforce a 10-year-old law that says any live music venue needs at least two security guards for anything under 100 people.

While, superficially, this is the private venue equivalent for demands of “more cops on the beat”, the problem with private security is that they’re not cops and often they can cause more problems than they solve.

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  • Isaac says:

    09:33am | 16/10/09

    “Why does it matter if someone is drunk?” Don’t drive a car with that attitude! Read more »

  • Daniel says:

    08:56am | 10/10/09

    Why does it matter if someone is drunk? Just becuase you look a little intoxicated does not mean you will start trouble. I have to be a bit intoxicated to to get up the will power to go into such venues. I enjoy the music but I can’t stand the… Read more »

 

Kung-Fu master, movie star and all-round whoop ass machine Bruce Lee found it hard to walk down the street in Hong Kong without being challenged to a fight by some bloke who’d watched too many of his films.

Why would you want to get in a fight with this guy?

Lee would receive letters daily from other Kung Fu academies putting forward their best students for a chance to fight the master. Unsurprisingly Lee was not amused: “I find this sort of thing really annoying, I’m not going to fight with anybody.”

The bashing of AFL superstar Lance “Buddy” Franklin in a Perth nightclub (at least on the facts available) is further evidence of a less sophisticated Australian version of this ego driven phenomena.

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  • Reg Johnson says:

    01:35pm | 30/09/09

    What do you expect, it happened in Perth. The town is smaller than Adelaide…. Read more »

  • Max Payne says:

    01:32pm | 30/09/09

    To Sam, you couldn’t be more wrong if you tried. Footballers DO have the right to go to pubs and clubs and should feel safe like the rest of us (well most of the time anyway). If the police and security guards did their job, fights in pubs/clubs would be… Read more »

 

First, I’d like to know how much taxpayers’ money was spent on a research report that concludes many Australian workers enjoy a drink with their colleagues and occasionally push the boat out too far.

Teens targeted in binge drinking campaign: Will workers be next?

But the report, commissioned by the federal Department of Health and Ageing, also suggests bosses could start pushing Australians to cut back on their drinking. Let’s translate one of the key parts:

“Workplace interventions (bosses, workmates or HR pulling up staff on drinking habits) are likely to be cost effective (cheap) and efficacious (fancy word for effective). Occupational health and safety and industrial relations frameworks exist (there are existing laws and regulations) that can incorporate alcohol-related issues (under which you could just slip in a new anti-booze regime).”

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  • k says:

    01:14pm | 22/09/09

    I don’t care what my staff do in their own time as long as it doens’t effect their performance when they are at work. It might change alot of employers views too if the laws changed so that if something happens to the person going to or from work it… Read more »

  • Jimbow says:

    06:09pm | 15/09/09

    Chase Stevens : already happening, younger generations are realizing they can get better and cheaper highs from illicit drugs, some shown to cause less damage to the body than alcohol (of course not in aussie government reports) and less social damage (pot, ecstasy).  But hey, after 100 years of prohibition… Read more »

 

It was the incident that gave flaming sambuca a whole new meaning, turned a young Greek woman into a national heroine and shone an embarrassing spotlight on Britain’s yob culture.

Stuart Feltham, a 20-year-old from outside London, had his genitals set on fire after allegedly dropping his trousers during a boozy night out at a bar in Crete.

Marina Fanouraki, a 26-year-old Greek tourist, admits having soaked Feltham with sambuca in retaliation for having her legs and breasts “forcefully fondled” by him, but denies that she purposely set him alight.

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  • Mr Fickle says:

    07:05pm | 18/09/09

    @jmac The Church on Sundays is still going, must be Australia’s longest tradition - it needs Australian Heritage listing.  Young people drinking too much, its the end of the world .... yasawl a bunch a snots Read more »

  • jmac says:

    03:01pm | 18/09/09

    I used to work at a contiki camp in 07 and 08, in venice, its renowned as a complete piss trough. i tell you the behaviour of aussies overseas is absolutely terrible. they have no respect for people’s homes and culture. most of them either go on 3 week contikis… Read more »

 

Those of us who enjoy the occasional night on the razz often have a special outfit that we like to wear when hitting the town. Some years ago I worked in a newsroom which had a communal purple silk tie which was shared around like the yellow jacket in the Tour de France. When worn it became code for: I am leaving the office, and may be some time.

Fevola in full flight at last year's Mad Monday

Carlton’s Brendan Fevola is in a league of his own when it comes to his fashion regimen. This elite A-grade sorting superstar seems reluctant to leave the house unless he’s frocked up, literally, in a pink petticoat, felt bowler hat with flowers in it, and a foot-long sex toy which he either hangs out the front of his pants or waves above his head.

He did it at the end of last year’s season, snapped by a casual punter who recognised him as he stood looking like something out of A Clockwork Orange on a Melbourne CBD street corner in broad daylight.

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  • Bob says:

    02:20pm | 21/09/09

    We now have photographic proof that Fevola is both a wanker and a dickhead. If he really had a foot why doesnt he use it as a rule Read more »

  • Don says:

    04:58pm | 14/09/09

    Most sporting teams at end of season events, each dress another member of the team. Its called Dress a Mate - quite a common thing now a days. So that’s why they’re usually in crazy outfits and women’s clothing - lets be honest wouldn’t you do the same to your… Read more »

 

It was recently revealed that the Victorian Labor Government employs “a small army” of media minders and spin-meisters. But Brumby’s battalions of PR hacks cannot deny the undeniable fact that crime rages out of control.

Who's actually ruling our streets? Illustration: Mark Knight

The evidence is right there in front of us. Our TV screens and newspapers are filled with stories of the street violence that is seemingly an everyday occurrence in Victoria.

It has gotten so bad that even the police are intimidated by the marauding thugs who have come to rule our streets.

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  • Adelaide Female says:

    06:28am | 07/10/09

    Im a hard working 23yr old female, under 60kg, no previous criminal record and actually until recently was seriously looking into becoming a police officer. I very rarely go out into town but went out for a girlfriends birthday on the weekend…and never again will I enter town again.. On… Read more »

  • Mario says:

    11:34am | 10/09/09

    I too have read Freakonomics. I don’t believe that their concepts are directly related to our situation here although I do think that people need to start thinking along their line of thought. You can sit on your leather chairs arguing this stupid point all day long, Mandatory Sentencing -… Read more »

 

Australia’s binge drinking culture sure is a divisive issue. But to put it simply we have two options. Stand by and do nothing and risk the $16bn alcohol toll escalating further out of control, or do something to break the cycle and make us a safer country.

Are shock ads such as this one enough?

Last week, when I asked the readers of The Punch for a solution, there were some comments which suggested that I wanted to turn Australia into a nanny state.

This couldn’t be further from the truth. And just so we’re crystal clear I don’t want to or ever plan to introduce prohibition.

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  • sean says:

    10:33am | 02/11/09

    teenagers drink. some drink alot, some dont drink at all. there is no amount of compaigning any government can do about it to stop it. there is an undeniable link between alcohol and violence, but the fault does not lie with alcohol. it instead lies with the person who is… Read more »

  • SteveB says:

    11:59am | 09/09/09

    Plewis, you add up all the costs associated with the deaths, illnesses, accidents, violence and the loss of work days etc that go with them, it’s not the first time that sort of number has been raised. I believe if you have a read of the “National Alcohol Strategy” documents… Read more »

 

BEN Cousins still drinks. I discovered this in Fred Pawle’s excellent piece on the AFL’s favourite recreational drug user in this month’s GQ magazine. I also learned that the Louis Vuitton drawstring (tracksuit) pants he wore in the photo shoot cost $1460, but I won’t get into that except to say footballers have changed.

It would not be such a revelation that Cousins still enjoys the odd beer had he not spent the slabs of his career heading out for a quiet drink after the game, only to emerge four days later on the front of The West Australian in the same jeans, white thongs and Elwood t-shirt. In his final season at West Coast, he was spending more time with bikies than at training.

We’ve been led to believe Cousins’ transformation from druggie to role model is complete, but Pawle’s article proves he has a long way to go. When asked if he still has a drink, Cousins’ reply was sheepish. “Yeah…I have to be careful with that sort of stuff,” he said.

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  • regina says:

    12:33am | 06/09/09

    @Mr Pastry - why thank you! you might be surprised to hear that i don’t even barrack for richmond. actually i don’t care much for afl at all. i’m not saintly. in fact far from it. i just don’t think his cries for help can be ignored ... particularly when… Read more »

  • Mr Pastry says:

    09:35pm | 05/09/09

    Regina - glad you have thought this through sensibly, I wish you well in performing therapeutic duties to aid his rehabilitation - you are almost saintly and an example to us all. Read more »

 

Newsflash: smoking is bad for you.  So, apparently, is drinking to excess.  And, wait for it, regularly gouging on fatty foods is no good either.  It’s shocking, I know.  Better go get a coffee to help get over it all; but do make it one of those low fat, caffeine free types so as to look after yourself.

Yeah yeah, we know.

Maybe, however, you happen to be one of the 99 per cent of people who knew these things to be the facts of life already.  You may still engage in one or some of them, but you do so knowing that there are risks.

This informed consent that you grant yourself is under threat.  A new buzz-phrase is sweeping the bureaucracy and is being visited upon us all.  It’s called “preventative health”.

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  • Andrew Michaels says:

    03:24pm | 03/09/09

    Simon you are such a disappointment. Your lack of any real conviction shows in this essay. Have you forgotten that your own party advocated for a rise in cigarette tax in Turnbull’s budget in reply speech.  Rather than be a follower of where you think popular sentiment is going and… Read more »

  • jason edwards says:

    03:20pm | 03/09/09

    Simon - The issue is not wether the government crosses any lines by delivering important health messages, but the ability of the government to cut that message through to the general public. Why on earth would you ague that the government should not use the tools it has control over… Read more »

 

With the current kerfuffle about binge drinking, you might be inclined to think that drinking copious amounts of alcohol is a fairly recent phenomenon. The truth is that the history of Western civilisation is soaked in alcohol. 

After another massive night, Diogenes (412-323BC) wakes up inside a ceramic urn in an alleyway.

In the spirit of informing the current debate — and helping policy makers and public health officials to see what they’re up against — The Punch presents the following comprehensive* history, spanning over 2500 years of drunkeness.

360 BC — Plato. The history of binge drinking in the West begins in Ancient Greece with the philosopher Plato who compared drinking parties to going to the gym. Just as going to the gym temporarily weakens you but makes you stronger in the long-run, drinking parties, he argued, can make you stronger.

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  • Sam says:

    12:40pm | 23/09/09

    @Lord Grognard The Persians didn’t “adopt” Islam. They were conquered by it. @Grant Regarding the “steadily declining” crime rates… Are you confusing statistics with reality? IMO - binge drinking is fun. I had lots of fun towards the end of high school, at the expense of my liver (at least).… Read more »

  • brendon says:

    04:30pm | 31/08/09

    The Gin Years. ...Good times, I think*. * Too much Gin has meant that one or two details have been omitted. Read more »

 

Look into the faces of those dozens of people glassed in violent incidents in our pubs and clubs in recent years and you’ll know that we have a problem. Those faces are worth more than any of the words I’m writing on this topic at the invitation of The Punch.

70 per cent of police engagements on the street related to alcohol

The images of our young people fighting on our streets with total strangers whose paths have they have crossed by chance, makes you wonder if we’ve got it right as a society. We shouldn’t live in a wowser state. I am clear on that.

Equally, we shouldn’t live in a state where our very human pursuit of enjoyment takes us down a darker path where alcohol becomes the end in itself.

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  • Neil whose sister's a cop says:

    05:27pm | 17/12/09

    The Operation Unite thing was a good idea - my sister participated in it actually, but I think it should be every weekend. Read more »

  • Rebecca says:

    02:23pm | 16/10/09

    We need to educate students - over and over again - about the very unglamorous effects of binge drinking. They believe they are bullet proof; the boys believe it is only girls who leave themselves open to rape and STD’s. The effects of binging on alcohol - long and short… Read more »

 

Tougher penalties for alcohol-related offences were the most popular response to a call from Family First Senator Steve Fielding for new ideas on tackling binge drinking in Australia.

But that was from those who agreed it was a problem in the first place. Many were also of the view Australia’s relationship with alcohol is just fine, and there was some mirth at Senator’s shock at a staff member who confessed to drinking 12 “jagerbomb” cocktails the night before playing cricket.

“12… 12… IS THAT ALL HOW SOFT ARE YOU!” was the response of one proud binger.

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  • acker says:

    05:44pm | 13/10/09

    I like option “8” 8. Recharge the booze industry for the cost But I also think that a 2am to 10am TOTAL BOOZE SALE BAN should be looked at and 24 hour Casinos such as Crown should also be forced to shut between 2am - 10am If you want to… Read more »

  • mandy says:

    05:16pm | 13/10/09

    The problem with binge drinking is that society has made it exceptible and the thing to do. You ask anyone who is going out on friday night or going to a party what they will be doing ! i can garantee they will say “getting smashed”.  Alcohol is not the… Read more »

 

I’m going to do something here that most pollies wouldn’t do and ask for help. Help in trying to address Australia’s $16bn alcohol toll. I want the readers of The Punch to leave a comment and share their ideas on how governments can address Australia’s binge drinking culture and the violence which stems from it.

A still taken from the Rudd Government's anti binge-drinking campaign

Three years ago I took a 10 point plan to both John Howard and Kevin Rudd. It included advertising restrictions and health warning labels.

But with that plan shot down its now time for fresh ideas as this a real issue which this country as a whole needs to take responsibility for.

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  • Nick O says:

    01:06pm | 24/09/09

    Again a tiresome, bandaid solution that ‘appears’ you have a viable alternative to solving this problem.  Like the adds (and labels on cigarettes) young people will merely scoff at health labels on alchohol.  Rather the continued source of amusement and entertainment will derive from such an idea. The issue at… Read more »

  • Shane says:

    10:41am | 23/09/09

    I have a solution! Stop using the word ‘alcopop’! I never heard this term until it was being spouted by politicians and the media. It’s always been premixes, ‘lolly-water’ or ‘chick-drinks.’ The word alcopop is example 72,491 of politicians being out of touch with the younger generation. Young people are… Read more »

 

REMEMBER this name - or if you’re drunk, get a friend to write it on the back of a beer coaster and stick it to your forehead for future reference. It’s going to be important later on.

Salma Hayek's Campari campaign - enjoy these ads while they last.

Not next week. Not in a month’s time. But in a few years, when shouts are banned, shots are illegal, when you are limited, by law, to a maximum of four purchases of spirits, liqueurs and/or fortified beverages within a 24-hour period at any licensed establishment.

When it’s illegal to drink in the presence of minors. Illegal to drink at any sporting event. Illegal to drink at a picnic.

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  • Shinsengumi says:

    05:03pm | 28/08/09

    M Of 04:26pm, 27/08/09:  Beautiful!  Beautiful work!  *standing ovation*  Such truer truth ne’er were spoken!  I too, want to see who and where the Trash abides.  I want trash, to be trash around other trash, hopefully they’ll all trash each other.  Far too long in our society have we been… Read more »

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    04:56pm | 28/08/09

    You can’t stop yeast Read more »

 

I used to be a cop. I’ve seen firsthand the damage that alcohol can cause when mis-used. Along the way I became a dad and, like most parents, worry about my kid’s safety. Now, I find myself as Managing Director of Brown-Forman Australia, proud makers of Jack Daniels. 

Melbourne CBD last New Year's Eve

I’m not sure which role has given me the sharper insight into life as most of us know it but if you think that this country recently had a ‘debate’ about alcohol policy, you’re dead wrong. 

What was supposed to pass for a war on binge-drinking has turned out to be a well meaning, but badly aimed, paint-ball skirmish – messy, misdirected and ultimately without lasting impact.

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  • Jasper says:

    05:12pm | 27/08/09

    Gee Brian, I’d like to see you utter that opinion if it was one of your relatives who received that treatment. Read more »

  • Brian Ward says:

    10:00pm | 26/08/09

    Taser all the thugs into submission. No warning. No second chance. You act violently, you get fried. Read more »

 

Things we should consign to the non-recyclable rubbish bin of a lost Australia.

Stanley's cask Riesling: mix with Fanta in tall glass for a

Female tennis players winning Grand Slams. Babies christened Keith or Shirley. Bank branches in small country towns. Australian wine under ten bucks a bottle.

While you’re just as likely to bump into the Beaumont children as encounter any of the first three, there’s still an ocean of palate-numbing, environment-raping, image-trashing plonk out there and everything that is great and good about the Australian wine industry is drowning in it.

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  • jonathan says:

    03:10pm | 17/08/09

    Chris:  i’ve heard similar numbers thrown around.  But don’t ask me to cite my sources, I’m just a humble research librarian. Andy:  how about we blame the industry for the behaviour of the consumer? I think I’ll head home for a nice glass of dutch wine?  etc? Read more »

  • Andy says:

    09:44am | 16/08/09

    Absolute piffle.  Blame the consumer for the behaviour of the industry Read more »

 

In having a gentle dig at US beer maven, food guy and legendary brewer Garret Oliver, Paul Colgan put his finger on what is the greatest obstacle to beer becoming anything other than a weapon of mass consumption for most Australians.

When do we get to drink it?

While it is OK – almost expected – for the urban sophisticate to have a touch of the wine tosser these days, if you show the slightest interest in what’s in your beer glass – or even ask for one when you order a beer – you are marking yourself as a twat of the worst order.

How things have changed. As a child in middle class suburbs of Brisbane in the 70s, I recall my parents going to parties where the dads all rocked up with a half carton of XXXX tallies and the wives with a four litre cask of Coolabah Moselle or Riesling.

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  • Michael F says:

    09:15pm | 10/09/09

    There is of course a line that ,when crossed, reveals the true wanker - be they beer or wine drinkers. For the “Winus Wankerus” it’s when discussion turns to the side of the hill the grapes were grown on or the acidity of the soil in the permaculture of the… Read more »

  • James McIlwain says:

    04:41pm | 17/08/09

    As a wine fan (not wanker) and beer drinker I have had it recently explained to me that it takes a hell of al ot of beer to make a great wine. Further to that one can be clearly pegged as an Australian in other parts of the world for… Read more »

 

OK, so the headline’s a bit cruel - you wouldn’t use this material in the front bar unless you enjoy a public humiliation, but it’s a good potted guide to beer tasting and matching a brew with steak.

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It comes from BigThink.com and springs off Obama’s beer summit, offering advice on etiquette next time you’re settling a major national issue over a drink. Enjoy.

If you’re a beer enthusiast, check out our own Matt Kirkegaard, The Punch’s resident lager-and-stout expert.

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Gary Reinbach died a couple of days ago in the UK of alcoholic liver failure, aged just 22.

Not worth the trouble - the NHS's verdict on Gary Reinbach. Picture: Stuart Clarke/The Times.

His life could have been saved with a liver transplant, but Gary didn’t qualify because he wasn’t well enough to leave hospital to prove he could clean himself up and deserved a second shot at growing up.

Obviously the allocation of donor organs has to comply with a set of criteria, such is the limited supply. But it seems amazing to me a 22-year-old could be told he wasn’t worth being on the list.

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  • ted says:

    11:12pm | 12/01/10

    My dad is currently waiting for liver because of NASH. A genetic decease caused liver decease. He now lies in a bed in hospital with only weeks to live and with no answer other than a liver tranplant will extend his life. So the lad had some issues and an… Read more »

  • Sam says:

    08:57pm | 12/08/09

    It is a sad story, but criteria for the allocation of organs are there for a reason. I wonder if this case has received so much media coverage because of Gary’s age, people, generally, feel more compassion for the young, with what is viewed as a “full life ahead of… Read more »

 

For those like me who’ve wondered (worried) about how many innocent brain cells they’ve wiped out at the pub over the years, the most exciting news in ages is that, just maybe, our brains are smarter than we are.

Drink up: a modest alcohol intake won't kill as many brain cells as you might think

How so? The evidence is growing that the brain isn’t a fixed collection of a few billion neurones, but a living laboratory that can make its own new cells. And while that is not an excuse to wipe them out with that fourth martini, it does open up a whole new way of understanding the human mind.

It’s all part of an evolving area of science which views our brains as plastic. And no, we’re not talking that hard coloured stuff they make Lego out of. The idea is that your brain is changeable. And one way to encourage it to do make the right changes is– and here we get radical – thinking in the right way.

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  • Michael Edwards, MA, CHES, RHEd says:

    08:48am | 08/02/10

    Very good information. Fish and fish oil are great for keeping the brain healthy, but a “healthy” diet with lots of fresh fruit and veggies are also good. Exercise your brain AND your body, and watch out for tobacco and pharmaceuticals-they can rob your brain and you may NEVER get… Read more »

 

There are currently some 700,000 university students in Australia, which I would estimate represents 145,478 cases of Chlamydia, 49,678 one-night stands and 4,567,099 packets of instant noodles consumed in the last calender year.

Do you think hairdresser Joh Bailey got rich and famous by schlepping around campus reading Sylvia Plath? Well, he didn't.

We have institutions aplenty (39 at last count) which are excellent at pumping out graduates who have gained little beyond a vague understanding of post-structuralism and an impressive repertoire of drinking games involving Sambucca.

But Julia Gillard thinks we need even more university students: 300,000 more to be precise. All part of the Education Minister‘s plans to give the higher education system a bit of a face lift.

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  • JD says:

    01:22pm | 16/10/09

    tafe course for hairdressing… NO!! do a 4 year apprenticeship so you can actually BE a hairdresser when you finish! Read more »

  • Ash says:

    03:44pm | 01/09/09

    Heather there is something about the tone and the content of your post that makes me think you are deploying your aptitude for believable lies. You also sound smug and self righteous. For example ’ HD’s in two.. two what topics.. degrees ? And these degrees distance education and night… Read more »

 

I enjoy a drink as much as the next person. Unless that next person happens to be Fiona O’Loughlin. Or Andrew Symonds.

Mangoes - a well known cause of social decay.

But the Australian Hotels Association’s opposition to a cancer fundraiser is just plain wrong.

Three blokes who’ve lost loved ones to cancer have started Dry July to raise money for Sydney’s Prince of Wales Hospital.

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  • hellonathan says:

    08:54am | 30/07/09

    No Jam January - Get people back on to Vegemite rather than those sickly sweet sugar spreads. No Farts February - I could get a break from Stefan my coworker. No Augie March March - give our ears a break No Arsehole April - We wouldn’t have to hear from… Read more »

  • James says:

    06:46pm | 14/07/09

    Hey Stephen - you wouldn’t be doing spin for the AHA would you…? Read more »

 

Ten years ago I had the good fortune of sitting next to Paul “The Chief” Harragon, hardman for the Newcastle Knights rugby league team

We shared a generally enjoyable conversation until discussions turned to a player who had become the media focus for – what else – excessive drinking.

Pamela Anderson at last year's London Fashion Week, where the ethics of spin-doctoring was not discussed.

Harragon was genuinely staggered that the drinking exploits of a league star would make tabloid fodder.

“If a plumber goes out and has a few to many,” he said, “no-one thinks of writing that up in a newspaper.”

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  • John H says:

    12:20pm | 10/07/09

    I have become aware of this interesting debate and I must declare at the outset that I am a member of the Australasian College of Cosmetic Surgery. On the one hand we have ACCS which is seeking regulations from authorities to help govern cosmetic surgery ( that will include all… Read more »

  • Daniel says:

    07:06pm | 09/07/09

    Chris, like RACS and ASPS you too ignore the questions. And with respect, the ACCS was not “invented” any more than the College that you belong to, i.e. The Australian and New Zealand College of Anaesthetists (ANZCA), which was formed after Australian anaesthetists broke away from the College of Surgeons… Read more »

 

Fittler's lack of leadership has given league another black eye

JAKE Friend will slip on the number 9 jersey and run out to play for the Roosters tonight. It will be just under a week since he, along with teammate Sandor Earl, allegedly assaulted a 31-year-old woman in a Sydney nightclub.

Despite being formally charged, they are free to wear the colours of one of rugby league’s foundation entities – and even the most ardent Roosters fan must see that there is something terribly wrong with a club that allows it.
It doesn’t take Jack Welch to point out that a badly managed organisation tends to rot all the way to the bottom.

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  • GlennA says:

    02:30pm | 03/07/09

    I agree that this is a great headline but not neccesarily with the thrust of the story.  Isn’t one of the big problems our readiness to have players hung, drawn and quartered before all the facts of the case are known.  I am not saying that either of the Roosters… Read more »

  • Heléna says:

    02:16pm | 03/07/09

    Freddy Fitler needs to go -  he has long outstayed his welcome at the Roosters Read more »

 

With Swans coach Paul Roos all but saying he’d like forward Barry Hall to retire after landing another stray punch, the question is now being asked: how many chances should Hall get before he’s just sacked?

I’d ask another question. Is Barry Hall really as big and bad as he is being made out to be, or is the controversy just an indication of how soft football and sporting culture generally has become in Australia?

In short – and at risk of sounding like Carrie Bradshaw - are Bazza and the likes of Andrew Symonds really too hard or have we just become too soft?

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  • Shano says:

    02:40pm | 02/07/09

    CS - Mate you have to be friggen kidding yourself. Your obviously a one finger typist because your other hand was firmly in your unstitched pocket. AFL play has now been designed to avoid contact, at it’s detriment.(Ask Sam Newman!!) And unfortunately I have to agree with him.    … Read more »

  • Davo from St Kilda says:

    02:39pm | 30/06/09

    ‘By taking the field you’ve got to accept a bit of push, shove and punch’, says Matt H. Why should sportsmen (and women) have to accept being assaulted? If one of your workmates punched you in the face, would that be acceptable behaviour? No it wouldn’t. The AFL’s goal to… Read more »

 

The outsourcing of responsibility for your own stupid behaviour to our nanny government continues apace with Kevin Rudd’s cockamamie plan to effectively pay people to stop shovelling tons of junk down their throats while sitting on their bum watching the telly.

Central to this plan is the utterly laughable claim from the 2007-2008 National Health Survey that 68 per cent of Australians are obese or overweight.

This figure says nothing about the real health of many thousands of Australians, but plenty about the ludicrously narrow definition of obesity.

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  • Simon says:

    11:49am | 26/06/09

    If my tax dollars are going towards gastric band sugery I can’t see why I shouldn’t get carte blanche on fat jokes. Read more »

  • Kate says:

    11:05am | 26/06/09

    another case of damned if you do damned if you don’t really… a big fat MEH from me. Do what you want really… you will anyway. Read more »

 

It didn't work then and it doesn't work now.

1. Drug prohibition doesn’t work. During the last half century, almost every country in the world signed three United Nations drug treaties committing these countries to minimise the recreational use of specified drugs. Almost every country expanded their police drug squads, rained gold bars on drug law enforcement and kept on increasing the severity of penalties for drug offences. What was the result? Global heroin, cocaine and cannabis production and consumption continued to soar while world heroin production doubled in the last 10 years.

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  • Joe Blow says:

    02:49pm | 06/11/09

    You are all just to weak to give the drug-users a final-injection! Read more »

  • A.G. Jenkins says:

    12:08pm | 28/07/09

    Dave M. is right about the bullying of the US. The system feeds off of the drug war, though, and with that many people getting/staying rich, fat and happy (e.g. private prisons, prison guards, pharmaceutical companies, politicians, the DEA, the police, chemical companies, lumber and forestry industries, oil/petrochem companies etc.)… Read more »

 

Low-carb beers are a beer of the moment. They are the “IT girl” of the beer world with their sales growing at a remarkable 900 per cent per year and every man and his dog who owns a brewery clamouring to get one on the market.

It's like a workout in a glass

Despite this, you won’t find too many brewers bragging about the beers in any sense other than the technical achievement in producing them. Beer marketers and brewery bean counters will sing their praises endlessly, but the actual brewers seem to stay silent on them – a little like Hunter S. Thompson might have done if he had had a sideline writing Mills and Boon novels.

When they do mention them it is usually in the pragmatic terms of giving the market what they want. The key to the beer’s success – apart from their light flavour profile – is in their name: low carb.

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  • Andy from KIRRA says:

    04:04pm | 05/06/09

    Another beer for the weekend – Corona – it has lower carbs than Pure Blonde and tastes better too! Or why not have a loaded Corona? Just add a nip of Bacardi Lemon rum – place your thumb over the top, turn over and hold for 5 seconds, return and… Read more »

  • Adam says:

    08:57am | 05/06/09

    A splendid Friday post! I suspect the lads eating 10 pieces of fruit a day might also be still be enjoying a beer or 6 and the lamb sandwich too… Read more »

 

UPDATED: Trouble follows him off the field like the ball does on it. It’s a shame because it’s a waste of talent and a let-down for cricket fans. There are few players better to watch when he starts tonking. There’s video below of the brilliance we now won’t be seeing in the Twenty20 World Cup, because Andrew Symonds has been sent home for breaking team rules.

Cricket Australia is booking his flights tonight. Precisely what happened is yet to emerge but it appears, as is usually the case when Symonds gets in trouble, there’s booze involved. Bizarrely it sounds like Symonds hasn’t repeated anything like turning up for a match drunk, like he did in 2005. CA boss James Sutherland said tonight: “the breaches that I am talking about are not serious, but in the scheme of things, in the scheme of history, they are enough for it to be the final straw”.

Twitter exploded with reaction after the story broke, and I guess the widespread disappointment shows the generally high regard in which Symonds is held, and the fact that people want him to come good.

I particularly liked this, from @KristinByrne:

Andrew Symonds: the only fun thing about cricket.

Anyway, Roy, as he’s known, wasn’t in the Ashes squad but he would have been a key player in the Twenty20 side. This might be the end of his international career. But how many chances should players like Symonds get?

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  • ian sand says:

    10:22am | 07/06/09

    Symonds could pretty much win a match single handed on his day.  A devastating batsman.  An extraordinary fielder.  An adequate bowler.  We sure as hell don’t want people like that in the team. Sport is for sportspeople and fans.  It is not for the officials.  Where officialdom clashes with the… Read more »

  • Julie Coker-Godson says:

    03:30pm | 05/06/09

    How many chances should Symonds get?  Well, at least as many as Shane Warne was given for doing a whole lot worse!  What’s wrong with having a drink while watching State of Origin - geeze, lighten up CA.  With regards to Ponting’s comments, I think he should remember where he’s… Read more »

 

YOU know what I love about the Grand Canyon, other than that it is one awesome kick-arse hole in the ground?

Verboten: This glass-toting woman would be arrested in Australia

It’s got no fences. You are free to fall into it if you feel so inclined. Sure, there’s the odd sign telling you that straying too close to the edge could bring a premature and permanent end to your holiday, but that’s the extent of the bureaucratic concern.

If the Grand Canyon was in Australia, it would have a fence around it.

Too dangerous, the nannas who govern us would cry, to let people just explore it in a manner of their choosing.

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  • Your name: says:

    06:03pm | 17/08/09

    for a start there are harsher sentences for glassers. prevention is better than cure. If you go somewhere with a prevailence of glassing, you will appreciate plastic Read more »

  • sarah (glassed) says:

    10:45pm | 07/08/09

    when you’ve been glassed, you can comment. Read more »

 

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Is this the greatest ever send-up of 24-hour news? Warning: contains strong language and hilarity. From… Read more

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