I arrived in Copenhagen, usually a pretty, peaceful Danish city on Thursday.  As the Copenhagen Climate Conference has approached – starting tomorrow morning – a tension has been building in the air.  It feels like the calm before a storm, when the wind begins to whip up and you can just feel something coming in the air. Walking around the city there are accents from across the world, posters displaying climate change events, protests and technologies, and groups of people closely discussing and speculating.

A papier-mache globe at a Copenhagen railway station heralds the climate summit. Picture: AP

Over the weekend I have been participating in the 3rd Annual Conference of Youth attended by approximately 1000 youth from over 150 countries. 

The youth movement has been growing exponentially over the last few years – in Australia the Australian Youth Climate Coalition has grown ten fold from 5000 to 50,000 in one year – and this is beginning to represented at the United Nations with a large youth presence at these negotiations. 

Young people will work together to present a united youth voice through visual stunts, speeches to the UN plenary, meetings with prominent delegates and through the global media.

Unlike the formal UN process, youth delegates have quite easily found common ground around moral principles – fairness and responsibility.  They argue that older generations of decision makers should leave the planet habitable for younger generations.  They argue that a solution to the climate crisis must ensure the survival of all countries and peoples.  They start at the end point – the outcome of climate policy – and then debate the means to achieve it.

This is an important distinction to bulk of global discussions which are focused upon the economic and political realities of our immediate situation.  It represents a generational difference in priorities - politicians governing for today and tomorrow and young people highlighting climate change a problem that will effect them for their entire lives.  Most young people at the conference would expect to live well into the second half of the century and experience a very different world if climate change is not adequately addressed. 

It highlights the importance over the coming two weeks of evaluating the results of the UN process by the outcome that it will achieve.  Will the outcome safeguard the future prosperity of young Australians? Australia’s treasured places like the Barrier Reef? Our key industries like agriculture and tourism? And the future well being of our Pacific neighbours?

As the weekend draws to a close and the new week dawns on one of the most significant global meetings since World War II, I feel a sense of optimism and hope.  It comes partly from spending a weekend with so many passionate young people from across the world and partly from the potential of a gathering like Copenhagen.  Over 90 world leaders in the same place, concrete commitments from key countries, and an unprecedented global public interest can create the conditions to push the global negotiations to the next step.  Copenhagen is an opportunity for leaders to prove they deserve their title by providing bold, transformative solutions which ensure that young people the world over have a future.

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    • Eric says:

      07:23am | 08/12/09

      The Punch has no time for real debate on climate science. Where’s the coverage of the biggest scientific scandal of the decade? By now you know its name.

    • hoofman says:

      07:58am | 08/12/09

      Yes, The Punch should agree to let Eric set its agenda for it. For sure. More articles supporting climate change scepticism and the evil things the feminist movement has done to men, please.

    • DocBud says:

      08:20am | 08/12/09

      Flying around the world when you know that your contribution will be 1% of diddly squat, now that is a true “do as I say not as I do” disciple of Al Gore.

      “Will the outcome safeguard the future prosperity of young Australians?”

      It certainly will if it achieves nothing.

      “Our key industries like agriculture and tourism?”

      Amanda did say the youth are not looking at current realities but their idea of the future, so I guess this represents her hope that mining will cease to be a key industry, in which case there will be no future prosperity for young Australians.

    • Eric says:

      08:25am | 08/12/09

      Indeed, hoofman, if The Punch was to reflect the broad spectrum of public opinion in Australia it would do just that.

      Looking at the comments on articles and the polls on the sidebar, it would seem that Punch readers are fairly evenly divided on the issues of feminism and climate change. Yet the Punch’s articles slant 100% pro-feminism and 90% pro-warming.

      Why is there this disconnect between journalists and their audiences? What does it say about the “news” we get from the mainstream?

    • KMW says:

      08:56am | 08/12/09

      Eric’s bingo card has started early today ladies & gentlemen….
      Bringing gender into a completely unrelated topic? Tick! Off to a flying start grin

    • DocBud says:

      09:10am | 08/12/09

      Well actually, KMW, Hoofman introduced feminism. Eric was just responding.

    • hoofman says:

      11:38am | 08/12/09

      Who said The Punch or any other media outlet has to reflect the broad spectrum etc etc, Eric? Just be thankful that The Punch gives you a platform to post your climate denialist and misogynist fantasies at least once every day.  And there are always the Akermans, Bolts etc for you to read and be comforted by like minded opinions. Except for the misogyny perhaps.

    • Ben says:

      08:47am | 08/12/09

      still waiting for anybody from The Punch to write an article on Climategate—I’ve looked under “Climate Change” and haven’t found even one.  Why is this scientific scandal being ignored—is it an inconvenient truth?

    • samuel says:

      12:08pm | 08/12/09

      Factor in the probability that you’re right (low), but also the cost if you are WRONG (high), and the decision to act now on climate change may be easier for you to digest.

    • BW says:

      09:11am | 08/12/09

      Pfft, everybody has to believe in something, and you, my dear, have chosen to adopt the great green religion. Perhaps one day you’ll turn on your brain and not believe such rubbish . . .

    • Mr. Peabody says:

      09:46am | 08/12/09

      ‘Climategate’ is a non event. There is no smoking gun and no evidence of a world wide conspiracy.  Even Tony Abbott doesn’t think much of it otherwise he wouldn’t talking about having a CG policy.

    • DocBud says:

      10:44am | 08/12/09

      The main stream media are certainly trying to make it a non-event. However, it is so much of a non-event that CRU director Phil Jones has stepped down pending an investigation. Here’s an interesting quote:

      “the results of this study will show that we can probably say a fair bit about <100 year extra-tropical NH temperature variability (at least as far as we believe the proxy estimates), but honestly know fuck-all about what the >100 year variability was like with any certainty (i.e. we know
      with certainty that we know fuck-all).”

      From:

      http://www.eastangliaemails.com/emails.php?eid=356&filename=1062592331.txt

      It is likely to get a whole lot more interesting when James Hansen is forced to handover his data and code:

      http://spectator.org/blog/2009/11/24/climate-gate-development-cei-f

      As a government employee, why has he been evading FOI for 3 years and why has he been allowed to?

    • Jason says:

      11:56am | 08/12/09

      Tony Abbott is waiting to see the outcome of ClimateGate like many of us.  Many of the discoveriesn made in climategate will become clearer early in the new year (the models and data are being analysed now by many many independant researchers) at which point the ETS will be a moot point.

    • Mr. Peabody says:

      03:31pm | 08/12/09

      Jason, if the enquiries fines that there is no case to answer will you accept that or will you cry cover up?

    • Mish says:

      10:07am | 08/12/09

      Well done Amanda.
      Good to see your generation can see through the conspiracy theory nutters and are prepared to put in the hard yards to make the world a better place.
      There is hope for us yet.

    • Get a grip. says:

      10:16am | 08/12/09

      It’s bad enough the older generations have pretty much destroyed the planet - now they insist on trying to halt progress to fix it…... !

    • Macca says:

      10:56am | 08/12/09

      Amanda, I am a member of The Australian Youth Climate Coalition and it is rubbish. Surely, a generation as creative and savy as Gen Y could help Kev Kev come up with a solution to climate change a little more creative than a tax.

      but no, you’d rather just blindly support the man who defeated the right wing devils whose flexible industrial relations legislation and economic management made getting a job so easy for today’s youth. Saint Kev can do no wrong

    • DocBud says:

      10:54am | 08/12/09

      The “hard yards” being a nice little jolly to Copenhagen to achieve absolutely nothing except a lot of CO2 emissions. That is to go with Amanda’s previous jolly to Bali. Many of Amanda’s generation can see AGW for the junk science it is, but then they just lead ordinary lives and haven’t made a career out of scaremongering.

    • Barry Fleming says:

      10:17am | 08/12/09

      Even though it makes great media coverage when we see young and impressionable youth become emotional over so called climate change - they have always been and will always be an easy target for social engineers who know how to present them with emotion charged information than with hard facts.

    • BULMKT says:

      10:26am | 08/12/09

      Quote from the US EPA “After a thorough examination of the scientific evidence and careful consideration of public comments, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) announced today that greenhouse gases (GHGs) threaten the public health and welfare of the American people.”

      http://www.epa.gov/

      From Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_gas

      “Greenhouse gases are gases in an atmosphere that absorb and emit radiation within the thermal infrared range. This process is the fundamental cause of the greenhouse effect.[1] The main greenhouse gases in the Earth’s atmosphere are water vapor, carbon dioxide, methane, nitrous oxide, and ozone. In our solar system, the atmospheres of Venus, Mars and Titan also contain gases that cause greenhouse effects. Greenhouse gases greatly affect the temperature of the Earth; without them, Earth’s surface would be on average about 33 °C (59 °F) colder than at present.”

      So the very gases that basically sustain all life on this planet are in fact, according to the US EPA, “threaten the public health and welfare of the (American) people.”

      Is it just me or has the world gone completely mad.

    • Kam says:

      12:03pm | 08/12/09

      people like you dont really know how to reserach and absorb information do you?

      You just take select lines and interpret them how you like “wow other planets have them, why are we making a big deal?”

      umm, because these other planets dont have PEOPLE contributing to the output of these gases?? thus making it WORSE??

      man some of you are SO stupid it really startles me. go put on your tin foil hat and talk about how the titanic was sunk by the British Government., this is you:

      “They SAID it was indestructible..so how did a measly block of ice manage to sink it? funny that. ship made of metal, ice is just frozen water!! how come I can crush ice cubes from my freezer with a spoon no problems?!? hmmm. I performed this test 100 times and not ONCE did my spoon break before the ice. I say its a CONSPIRACY!!”

      this is what people like you sound like. Idiotic.

    • Moggy says:

      10:31am | 08/12/09

      What I want to know is this: Why isn’t the media looking at WHY Rudd wants to tie us to his ETS when Australia only contributes less than 2% to the so called polution problem of the world?? Why is the media toadying to this megalomaniac & his grand ideas of being The Main Man in world politics?? If I didn’t know better I’d be thinking that the media are playing with us all, yet again, & will destroy Rudd when the time is ripe for them to make huge profits out of his demise.

    • DocBud says:

      10:58am | 08/12/09

      Get a grip, Get a grip. The planet has not remotely been “pretty much destroyed”.

    • Anthony says:

      11:01am | 08/12/09

      Climategate, climategate, CLIMATEGATE!

      Where on Earth is the balance on the Punch? All talk about ‘saving the Earth’ and how we are destroying the planet through evil C02.

      These anthropogenic climate change believers are so stubborn. Sceptisicm is an essential part of science, but yet if you are sceptical that the humans are ending civilization you are ignored and insulted.

      Do your own research for once and stop listening to the tired old lines you hear in the mainstream news.

    • hoofman says:

      11:41am | 08/12/09

      ‘Where is the balance on The Punch’? Well, start with Eric above and numerous others who have posted mentions of ‘climategate’ on this site over the past couple of weeks, Anthony. Just because you and others are obsessed with it doesn’t mean everybody has to join the conga line. Is it possible you are lacking balance yourself, you think?

    • Anthony says:

      12:12pm | 08/12/09

      I’m talking about the articles on the Punch and pretty much everywhere. Many people are aware of Climategate, it’s spread like wildfire on the internet in just 2 weeks (Over 30,000,000 hits. More than ‘global warming’) but yet you hardly hear about it in the mainstream media. If so many people are interested in Climategate, why is it not being reported more?

      Ask yourself basic questions, Hoofman, and you can figure out where the balance is needed.

      And if Climategate is nothing, why are Google Australia trying to supress it? They took it out of their auto-suggest even though it has 32,000,000 hits.

    • zoe says:

      11:42am | 08/12/09

      considering that youth today have more electronic gadgets, travel on planes more extensively than any previous generation are more materialistic, I find this article completely hypocritical, put away your laptop, blackberry, iphone etc stop talking and go plant a tree.  Maybe if all those people who are attending this conference planted a tree instead of contributing more to carbon emissions we might get somwhere

    • Macca says:

      11:50am | 08/12/09

      LOL, excellent Zoe

    • Phil says:

      12:14pm | 08/12/09

      Moggy

      You will never get a response. All media like stories, and the ETS, AGW, Climate Change will help to sell news print.

      Most media journos are left wing. They couldnt start and run a normal business if they tried. Only a capitalist like their boss could do that, and he is the evil one for making them work so hard for such little return.

      Most posters on this blog hold down lobbyist jobs, work for non for profit sectors and a few journo’s thrown in with the odd polli.

      The Lobbyists, are usually paid by the polictical parties as a thank you for past service, the non for profits are funded by governments and a bit of fund raising, pollies on our payroll and some journos paid to whip up a storm to sell news print and online advertising.

      You will never get a balanced view. Rudd is their darling brain child, who will socially engineer this place to suit their left leaning ideals.

    • Matt says:

      02:31pm | 08/12/09

      AYCC are nothing but a UN mouthpiece.

    • Joel B1 says:

      05:22pm | 08/12/09

      David, you’re right because you’re wrong.

      Joel B1 BSc(Hon)

    • Eric says:

      05:25pm | 08/12/09

      David, please search for Climategate on the Internet, and try to understand why it represents a complete subversion of the scientific process.

    • Suzuki says:

      06:27pm | 08/12/09

      A gushing report on the 3rd Annual Global Conference of Youth, from a co-director of the Australian Youth Climate Coalition.

      Didn’t Hitler, Stalin, Mao, etc, have similar ideas about locking in naive and impressionable young people through indoctrination in youth organisations?  And no doubt the state paid for their activities also.

    • Glen says:

      06:49pm | 08/12/09

      The current crop ofyoung are like most crops of young; passionate, idealistic, inexperieced, unrealistic and selfish.  There are some main differences with this latest crop including that they are able to get access to mainstream media more readily than previous generations and they are being played by the greedy too easily.  I’ll wait for the real world to teach them the had lessons that we learnt and watch them change their tunes.  I have no doubt that they will claim compensation for having ther ideals crushed but they can get stuffed.  Welcome to the real world; “Get a job” (Paul Keating - labor PM).

    • Jason says:

      07:24pm | 08/12/09

      Mr Peabody, I consider myself rational, and will gladly accept a rational argument for both ClimateGate modelling inconsistencies AND manmade climate change.  But the groups advocating carbon trading must accept that both pro- and con- groups in this field all have vested interests.  There are serious omissions been made in the public representation of climate change and these should be answered before we commit to major economic change (assuming that *IS* a solution).  We must educate ourselves about it without the predominate bias so obvious in the media and our “populist” leaders.

    • joe says:

      10:55pm | 08/12/09

      Didn’t they tell the kiddies that AGW has been debunked?

    • Bob says:

      07:05am | 09/12/09

      Amanda, you can’t even spell scepticism - this is Australia, not
      America.  Apparently Gen Y hasn’t realised that yet.

    • Bob M says:

      07:30am | 09/12/09

      Check out this audio if you the think the UN is so benign -http://tinyurl.com/weatherscam

    • Climate change is here. says:

      09:09am | 09/12/09

      The essence of the deniers’ argument is that humanity couldn’t possibly affect a global system. They seem to forget/ignore that not so long ago humanity nearly destroyed a global system called the ozone layer.
      Anyone who believes 6 billion people pumping tonnes of garbage and greenhouse gasses out every year will have no effect must have their head jammed somewhere very dark and smelly.
      This is a typical human reaction. The problem appears too big so we stick our heads in the sand, except for a brave few, who bail us out, then the rest of us say “See! There was no problem” We deserve to be extinct.

    • Corey says:

      09:15am | 09/12/09

      How dull the conspiracy theorists are. How pathetic their criticisms of spelling. How many really just need a good old-fashioned root followed by a cold shower before they come to their senses. None so blind as those who will not see.

      Amanda, mate - we must be winning… the nutcases and vested interests are coming out of the woodwork and looking worried. Cheers to you and the crew in Copenhagen.

    • Anne O'Brien says:

      09:47am | 09/12/09

      Thanks Amanda. It’s a big worry to see that Australia is yet again speaking on behalf of its coal lobby rather than its citizens in seeking a treaty outside the binding/ enforceable framework of the United Nations. 

      We in Australia are just like Nigeria (controlled by its fossil fuel industry rather than the will of the people) I would find being at the talks depressing, as the strongman tactics behind the scenes are in marked contrast to all the nice UN speak about democracy and responsibility. Makes me want to gasp for air.

    • Nana says:

      09:33pm | 09/12/09

      “How dull the conspiracy theorists are. How pathetic their criticisms of spelling. How many really just need a good old-fashioned root followed by a cold shower before they come to their senses. None so blind as those who will not see.”

      Keep that up Corey and you will go blind.

    • Vanessa says:

      06:26am | 10/12/09

      The greatest threat to the world is over-population, especially in poverty-riddled countries.  Why do people, who cannot afford to have children, keep pumping them out?  Why bring a child into this world, only to lead an impoverished and miserable life? 

      Surely, the world should be addressing birth control, along with education and health issues.


      On another point - why is rational debate on climate change howled-down?  Why can’t we question the science?  Why should we blindly believe or accept the ETS?  Oops, sorry I forgot.  Labor is always right and everybody who disagrees must be stomped on.  Much like unionism. baa baa

    • James says:

      08:44am | 10/12/09

      Keep it up, Amanda! Forget the peanut gallery in the comments; you guys are in the thick of it and have more important stuff to focus on :D

    • Andrew says:

      10:50am | 10/12/09

      Vanessa:  you are dead right.  Overpolulation is the real prblem.  We should be able to rationally debate global warming etc, in fact we should be able to debate anything.  The problem is that there areloud groups ofpeple that grab the headlies and howl down anyoe that doesn’t agree with them.  It becomes dangerous when they get into power which is what we see now.

 

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