Humans are social creatures and require human contact but the digital age has caused a seismic shift in how we experience life and engage with others.

1780 Facebook friends but not one worth poking

Gen Y for example is now the most connected generation the world has ever seen.

Australian social commentator Hugh Mackay has labelled this as a new form of RSI - Reduced Social Interaction. He says people are not getting the ‘‘emotional nutrition’’ of spending time face to face with others.

A national survey just released by Relationships Australia claims 30 per cent of Australians aged 25 to 34 report they are frequently lonely - far more than any other age group. The second most lonely were the young adults – 19 per cent of them claimed they were frequently lonely.

Assistant Professor Keith Hampton and fellow researchers at the University of Pennsylvania have also focussed on social isolation and new technology and report evidence that the use of social networking has replaced local community involvement particularly in active sport participation.

The people who use these new technologies do often have large and diverse social networks but the problem is they live in an isolated virtual bubble devoid of face-to-face human interaction.

The current research is implying that these social media hermits spend so much time on social networking websites that they possess no strong sense of belonging in the “real world.”

Social hermits can be observed daily on public transport or walking in the street and even in the workplace. They insulate themselves from those around them by engaging in excessive text based interaction with others.

It becomes even more obvious in other settings. Household members, whether family or flatmates are now accustomed to splitting up and hiving off to do their own thing via social networking.

The son of an aquaintance shares a three bedroom household with two other professionals. He can go over a week without seeing any flatmates. He said he can hear them-or at least their games/programs but other than that he really has no indication that they are still alive. He judges their moods by the volume and style of noise echoing through the walls.

A mum with a technology savvy husband and teenage children says she feels like a zookeeper. She endeavours to prepare interesting and nourishing meals but has to leave them out separately plated. During the night at differing times her social media hermits emerge from their lairs to consume the food.

There is no doubt people use social media to stay in touch and share information in ways that keep them socially active and connected to their online communities, however just as web porn cannot replace real love, social networking cannot replace real friendships.

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    • Erick says:

      05:47am | 05/08/11

      What is “real”? I’d say some of my online friends are more real to me than random strangers I’m forced to interact with just because they’re physically nearby.

      Maybe people are moving into the online world because it’s better than the crappy one our bodies live in.

    • TChong says:

      07:02am | 05/08/11

      “online world… better crappy one our bodies live in”
      Gees Eck, dont tell me you see yurself as one of those tree loving hippy , Navi ?
      Or , would your avatar be of the raiding norseman type ?  wink

    • Tina says:

      07:38am | 05/08/11

      Your online world is better than the “crappy” real one, because online you can take on any role and noone sees how you suck in real life.

      I tried online dating for a while and the result was socially incapable blokes with sweaty shaky hands and on anxiety meds.

    • Robert says:

      07:40am | 05/08/11

      I agree with Erick. I say the internet has allowed us to choose friends based on common interests outside of geographics. I may only physically interact with some of my online friends a few times a year but that doesn’t make their friendships any less real than people who I see several times a week.

      As for the mother at the end of your article, she’s made the issue worse for herself. One meal, one meal time. If people don’t want it then, let them serve themselves.

    • Michael says:

      07:58am | 05/08/11

      Erick, you might like a book called “living deliberately” by Harry Plamer.

      Interesting points of view on offer around the physical world and the world we perceive.

    • Erick says:

      08:55am | 05/08/11

      @Tina - Why so bitter? Cheer up, girl!

      @Michael - Looks interesting, if possibly a bit new-agey. I’ll have a look after work.

    • Tina says:

      09:02am | 05/08/11

      @ Erick

      Sorry, I am just having my first coffee. I am a bit allergic to this topic. I once made the mistake of gifting my expartner a playstation and unwittingly dooming our relationship grin.

    • Erick says:

      09:37am | 05/08/11

      @Tina - Fair enough. I sympathise with you on both counts - lack of coffee and partner-stealing machines.

    • R.O.N. says:

      10:32am | 05/08/11

      Cold Lazarus, Erick?

    • Shifter says:

      12:03pm | 05/08/11

      @Tina - you need to join in on the playstationing. At least some of the time.

    • Elphaba says:

      12:17pm | 05/08/11

      @Shifter, agreed, if they like to play but are not obsessed, a girl getting involved with her guy on the video games is a good idea.  It doesn’t have to be all the time, and it gives one currency that can be used later.

    • Shifter says:

      01:16pm | 05/08/11

      @Elphaba - Is that a “I played your silly game for an hour so will you build this IKEA furniture I’ve just purchased” kind of deal?

      Some guys like it when a girl is into games. Proper into, not just for show.

    • Elphaba says:

      01:32pm | 05/08/11

      @Shifter *sigh* some can use it for that if they want.  I think they’re quite good, but some guys gets frustrated because I’m such a numpty with the controls.

      Or I want to go and explore something instead of following the game’s proper trajectory.

      I guess every situation is different.  But yes, I think trying to take a genuine interest in your partner’s interests, even if you could take it or leave it, is part of a relationship and part of compromising.  I would expect the same from them.

      Besides, I can put my own IKEA furniture together. wink

    • Tina says:

      01:46pm | 05/08/11

      @ Shifta

      Probably I should have joined. But maybe it just doesnt mix when you have one very shy person and the other one very outgoing.

    • Emma says:

      03:19pm | 05/08/11

      @ Tina

      So I would say that the playstation really had nothing to do with the dooming of the relationship then.

    • Shifter says:

      03:19pm | 05/08/11

      @El - it was a gross generalisation on my part, but one I have seen in practise in some of my friends relationships. Some girls will take part in their partners interests purely to have a bargaining chip up their sleeves for when it’s needed later. I’m not saying guys are exempt from this behaviour either, but being male I tend to notice one side more than the other.

      Do you make IKEA scupltures? I inadvertently ran into an online IKEA modders group who change the original intentions of the flat pack designs for other purposes. Some practical, some arty.

      @Tina - who’s the shy one, the girl or the gamer? You’d think it’s obvious but I know some very outgoing gamers, and shooting bad-dudes is just another interaction or social escape for them.

    • Elphaba says:

      03:41pm | 05/08/11

      @Shifter, I have seen that, but not having a creative bone in my body, no… I erect the IKEA furniture as it was intended.

      I love people who can do that, they are awesome.

      I know what you mean.  I see relationships as you taking an interest in your partners things, even if you don’t like them.  I’ve bought tickets to things that I could take or leave for guys and gone along and had a good time, and I’d expect the same from them.

      I suppose I see it as if you don’t take an interest in something your partner does, how can you expect them to take an interest in what you do?

    • Shifter says:

      05:29pm | 05/08/11

      @Elphaba - agreed to a point, I think you can care without involving yourself. eg. A future partner of mine might take an interest in my cycling, but it wouldn’t be an expectation of mine that they would roll around hills with me on a Saturday morning.

      Relating this back to the antisocial video games you could listen to said partner tell you stories about how he saved the world without actually jumping in the game next to him or even looking over his shoulder because that’s bloody boring unless the game is Rez and you’re making use of the vibrating controller feature and I’ve said too much already so I shall attempt to quit whilst I’m slightly incriminated.

    • GlendaSings says:

      11:21am | 07/08/11

      I belong to an international singing organisation and as a result now have hundreds of online friends who live all over world who I only get to see in person every few years. I’m able to stay connected with in a way never before possible. When we meet in person, we’re able to pick up a real life conversation right away…“I saw on Facebook that your dad had surgery, how’s he doing?”. We trade ideas and stories, and even introduce mutual friends with common interests.

      None of this prevents me from having a rich and varied real life friendship group as well, who I interact with online throughout the week and then see in person as well.

      If social media is your only social contact, that could be a problem…but for most of us it’s a bonus, a supplement to our other, more traditional social interactions.

    • Gary Cox says:

      05:49am | 05/08/11

      Yeah I agree. Facebook and video games are for losers. These people need to get a life

    • TChong says:

      08:00am | 05/08/11

      Shhhh ! GG , slagging the vid.games will have young TimB spluttering in his Red Bull.

    • TimB says:

      08:42am | 05/08/11

      More likely to be a Coke Chongy.

      Meanwhile the ignorant will remain ignorant, there’s not much I can do.

    • centurion48 says:

      09:27am | 05/08/11

      @Gary Cox: ... or a Second Life. Yes, much better to comment on forums than Facebook doncha think?

    • Gary Cox says:

      10:09am | 05/08/11

      @centurion48 absolutely reading opinion pieces and offering your opinion is better than announcing that you are going for a poo to people you went to school with but haven’t seen for 15 years

    • Tom says:

      10:29am | 05/08/11

      centurion48… Comments on news sites are an occasional thing. Facebook is a daily ritual.

    • Shifter says:

      12:06pm | 05/08/11

      @Gary - why the jibe against video games? It’s great fun having myself and 3 mates on the couch yelling whilst trying to out-race, out-score, out-kill each other.

    • Chris L says:

      06:55pm | 05/08/11

      “These people need to get a life” - ‘cause sitting together in front of the telly is far more engaging than meeting friends online to match wits and skill in an interactive environment.

      There you go TimB, I’ve taken this one, you take the next grin

    • Mahhrat says:

      06:48am | 05/08/11

      I can’t reply directly to @Erick, but he’s right.

      I moved from Melbourne back to Hobart at the end of ‘08 because I was tired to spending three hours a day getting to and from work.

      Here, it’s 7 minutes.  In 30 years, we might do everything online.

      Don’t even doubt that total-immersion “matrix” technology isn’t coming - full immersion is the holy grail of digital entertainment, from games to sex, and it’ll happen.

      And when it does, I’ll say goodbye to the “real” world.  With my weakness for fast food and hatred of exercise, too many “people” and so many problems, an online world I create myself, interact with how I want, where I look how I want, eat what I want, do what I want?  It’s an easy choice.

      I’ll be built like Arnold, slaying dragons or ganking Zerg, I’ll step through a “portal” to my “construct”, don a suit, tie and grab a briefcase full of “files”, step through a second portal and join a work meeting with 10 other people, sitting in their own comfy chairs all over the world.

      The commute will change, not heading out the door, but logging out long enough to eat a protein cake and take care of my physical form’s needs.

      All I’ll need is a 50sqm flat with a couch bed, a shower and a way to store my protein cakes and just enough power to run my internet.

      Sure, the @Gary Cox types of the world will enjoy the “real” - and they’ll be free to, since half of us won’t care about that and won’t impact on it.

      If you think this won’t happen in your kid’s lifetimes, you’re dreaming.

    • Tina says:

      07:42am | 05/08/11

      WE are dreaming? We are not the ones trying desperately to be someone else online.

    • adam says:

      07:45am | 05/08/11

      But having cloistered yourself away in such a fashion you will be unaware of the beginings of the zombie apocolypse. Gary and people like him will have to do the heavy lifting re saving humanity, firstly by directing the zombies to a easy meal ie someone trapped in a 50sqm feed lot

    • Erick says:

      09:13am | 05/08/11

      @adam - The zombie apocalypse is the only serious flaw in my plan.

    • adam says:

      09:39am | 05/08/11

      Tell you what Erick mate. You make me up an online dating profile that works and I’ll guard the door from zombies

    • Tina says:

      09:47am | 05/08/11

      @ adam

      The best comment in an online dating profile I ever read was very simple: “I am willing to lie about how we met”

    • adam says:

      10:12am | 05/08/11

      Tina thats great, truely great.

      Anyone who gives playstations as pressies shouldn’t need online dating…

    • Mahhrat says:

      11:03am | 05/08/11

      lmfao Tina, that’s golden.

    • Tina says:

      11:41am | 05/08/11

      @ adam I dont think anyone needs online dating. Its self punishment. Whenever you think it cant get any worse…

    • Jenni says:

      12:04pm | 05/08/11

      I hope I’m still alive to see it, sounds like heaven to me smile Jack me in!

    • adam says:

      12:25pm | 05/08/11

      Tina, i have never tried it as I have a crushing fear of rejection. It’s enough to meet that rejection in a pub/club etc where there are a limited number of females about but to face it from “every available female in the world/country/state” isn’t my idea of fun.  Better to spend my days fishin’. Even the best angler has an off day, or so I tell myself

    • Tina says:

      01:16pm | 05/08/11

      adam that sounds more like you are unhappy with who you are yourself if you think so negatively. That always surprises me. I wonder why people dont change what they dont like about themselves? Sure its not easy but it should be worth it - after all its you.

    • Erick says:

      03:10pm | 05/08/11

      @adam - I would suggest playing an MMORPG like Second Life. You’d be surprised at the number of lonely women out there, and how easy it is to start chatting to them.

    • Fiddler says:

      07:38am | 05/08/11

      Maybe that mum with a tech savvy husband should put her foot down. Dinner is to be eaten at the table as a family etc.
      Point of this article is the world is changing as a result of technology, wow, that’s a revelation.
      And as for the pic there are plenty of my online friends I would def give a “poke” to wink

    • Seanr says:

      08:25am | 05/08/11

      Dinner as a family is such a simple yet important thing. We always ate as a family when I was growing up and I do the same with my family now.

    • Elphaba says:

      10:44am | 05/08/11

      Agreed, that mother should put her foot down.  Social media isn’t the problem, she’s just letting herself be taken advantage of.

    • Joan Bennett says:

      07:45am | 05/08/11

      The Mum referred to could just stop catering for the “hotel guests”.  Dinner is served at a certain time.  That’s all.

    • Kate says:

      07:45am | 05/08/11

      Hi Ian. I really enjoyed your essay and it raises many excellent points. @Erick’s points are very valid too and it concerns me he - and probably many other people - see life that way. However, a person’s ability to interact with people in real time - to create, develop and maintain relationships with people in real time (family, friends), work contacts - bosses, clients etc - remains crucial to a person’s success. If people are losing the ability or the desire to develop these skills then heaven help us. The jury is still out on the impact of being constantly wired up on mental and pysical health as well as the health of our society.

    • atthepub says:

      07:58am | 05/08/11

      Come to the pub!!

    • Retired Soldier says:

      08:30am | 05/08/11

      It is little wonder Generation Y spends most of its time online talking to faceless people about how smart they are. It doesn’t surprise me that this is their method of communication because clearly when they are forced to be in a face to face situation it is generally in a alcohol or drug induced state and they are unable to recall any part of the interaction. At least when they communicate via the Internet, they have a record of the conversation they had. Those of us from other generations still use the net for communication but we still meet and discuss how to fix the problems of the world in places where drugs and idiots are not tolerated and we generally remember who we met with and what was said.

    • gobsmack says:

      09:34am | 05/08/11

      Come to the pub!?
      What, and have to listen to a bunch of old drunks crapping on about how when they were young they didn’t have “this internet thing”?
      No thanks.

    • Pauly says:

      10:47am | 05/08/11

      Retired Soldier, in 20 or 30 years those ‘records’ are going to be very interesting. Hope you kids plan being on your best behavior the rest of your lives.

    • Ben C says:

      03:07pm | 05/08/11

      Another Gen Y bash from Retired Soldier. I’m amazed that one person can harbour so much resentment towards an entire group of people, based on his observations of a few.

    • Chris L says:

      07:01pm | 05/08/11

      Go easy Ben. Retired Soldier often has worthy things to say… and knows how to post online (unless his kids do that for him).

    • js says:

      08:21am | 05/08/11

      i think its a reflection of the fact that “real” people are so revolting and obnoxious. Manners and good taste are long gone, really is it any surprise that most of us would rather been on-line than hanging at westfield with a bunch of frenemies?

      When there are so many out in the world with serious entitlement issues that have been raised to believe its all about them, why would anyone want to be their friend.

    • marley says:

      09:20am | 05/08/11

      I don’t see that the virtual world is any more mannerly or tasteful, or any less entitled, than the real one.  And trying to create an ideal on-line persona for yourself takes valuable time away from creating a better real personality, doesn’t it?

    • Mike says:

      08:42am | 05/08/11

      I find most of what people are into is crap these days. The quality of movies, TV shows, music etc these days, along with video games, and in recent years all this online social networking - just intravenous popcorn for lazy, apathetic minds.

    • egg says:

      12:04pm | 05/08/11

      just because you don’t like movies, tv shows, music (or anything else, by the sounds of it) these days, doesn’t make it crap. it makes you old. smile

    • Mike says:

      07:03pm | 05/08/11

      Way to misread what I said. Obviously the quality of reading in the mainstream has dipped too, left that one out!
      I never said I dislike it all. Most, as in 80-90% of what is popular. And at 27 I don’t feel too old just yet thanks!

    • Luke says:

      08:53am | 05/08/11

      Another article with statistics. Weren’t there reports decades ago that young adults (up to their 20’s) were more likely to feel suicidal due to loneliness? How about relating your magic numbers to historic research in the same field? Then it might actually be something of interest.

      Like every other new social instrument, the internet is being blamed for all of today’s social ills. Rock and Roll (60’s onwards); Dungeons and Dragons (80’s); Rap music (90’s); internet (2000’s). I’m sure that some people are actually adversely affected by the “new” technology, but they’d be bothered by any external influence regardless of what form it took.

      I say all of this as someone who doesn’t have a Facebook page, can’t stand text messages, and abhors the very existence of Twitter (LOL! I’m eating toast! LOL!!!!!). If I want to talk to someone I will either ring them and speak to them, or go and see them.

    • Shifter says:

      12:22pm | 05/08/11

      Ahh rap music, the scourge of teenagers everywhere.

      Luke, do you look down upon people who lack confidence in face to face communication, or even voice communication?

      I’m sure there are a few people out there that are brilliant written communicators, but lack the extroversion to go out an make it happen face to face. The folks who are the wallflowers at the party, but may have that hidden gem that will allow them to socialise in other manners.

      History has been littered with authors who are lauded for their written works, but are oft criticised for their reclusiveness or eccentricities. Perhaps they lacked the medium to communicate with other like minded souls?

      Your comment suggests to me that you abhor the inane babble on social media. Perhaps there are people out there who abhor the inane babble of face to face communication. Just like in real life, you can un-follow someone on Twitter.

    • Chris L says:

      07:08pm | 05/08/11

      Shifter I don’t think you are disagreeing with Luke as much as you seem to think you are. You both have made points that I thoroughly agree with!

      I’m just glad the latest tragedy hasn’t been blamed on computer games. Maybe the wowsers have found something else to blame.

    • IC-1101 says:

      09:07am | 05/08/11

      There is a terrible misconception about social media and online communities, and it’s no surprise that once again the anti-internet rant comes from the out-of-touch baby boomer.

      You cannot compare online interaction with face-to-face because they are fueled by different things.  An online landscape is different, because you’re interacting on a level that you wouldn’t be able to in a real setting.

      Online interaction is fueled by sharing: sharing of information, news, videos, images, thoughts, opinions.  That level of interaction is restricted with face-to-face time because there are restrictions: location, time, people around you.  Social media allows you to interact with people, albeit in a virtual setting, and interact and share virtual content.  That’s what drive the interaction.

      I find it frustrating that people attempt to showcase negatives associated with online interaction, but completely fail to acknowledge the benefits.

      Firstly, for someone that has limited face-to-face interaction—it might be some in a remote area, someone that has never had many friends, some that works long hours—the online landscape provides an opportunity to access and interact with content (including thoughts) that would not normally be available for interaction in a real setting.

      Yes, there are issues associated with the media, but we should be embracing the level of interaction these online platforms provide, rather than simply saying that they make people lonely, which is not correct in a vast majority of cases (as the article so accurately puts).

      People should understand that not everyone is a social butterfly, and although an online community might provide limited face-to-face interaction, the accessibility and level of interaction actually has the potential to increase things like vocabulary and just overall knowledge, because it’s an endless flow of information.

      Online communities thrive in some cases because the interaction is constant and consistent.  Your “friends” on Facebook have never, ever been portrayed as real friends.  They are your “FACEBOOK FRIENDS”.  That’s it.  They are your friends in that digital landscape.  People associate the friends in an online landscape with a real setting and say, “oh these people aren’t my real friends”. Well, no, obviously they’re not, they’re your Facebook Friends, but how often would you have a debate with them about politics?  Or global warming?  Or economics?  racism?  Sport?  Things you would never, ever discuss in a real setting because you just wouldn’t see these people, because you really only care to interact with them online.  I don’t want to remain in touch and get face-to-face interaction with a guy I went to primary school with.  But it’s nice to interact with him every now and then, and I enjoy that we get into harmless little sledging matches about which footy team is better.

      Sometimes online interaction gives us a level of interaction that is just not possible in a real setting.  There are immense benefits of online communities and social media.  They continuously evolve, shift, change.  The online landscape is fueled by interaction, so any such opinion that it actually dilutes the level of interaction we have is complete rubbish imo.

      Embrace.  Don’t disgrace.

    • Tina says:

      09:18am | 05/08/11

      @ IC

      Of course the internet is a good thing. So is chocolate. But you should just consume both in a healthy and balanced way. Make use of the internet but dont hide from society. Its always about finding a balance.

    • marley says:

      09:29am | 05/08/11

      Interesting comment, and I agree with quite a lot of what you say. 

      One thing, though have doubts about - and that’s the argument that people who are not social butterflies can use Facebook and its equivalents to interact with people they wouldn’t normally meet.  The problem there (and I speak from the definitely non social-butterfly perspective myself) is that it is very easy for introverts to allow interaction with virtual friends to substitute for efforts to make real friends.  It takes some degree of courage to get outside your comfort zone and try to meet new people;  it’s much easier to retreat to the computer.  Ultimately, though, if interaction with Facebook Friends interferes with your getting out into the real world, it is stunting your development.  And that, most definitely, is not a good thing.

    • Shifter says:

      12:38pm | 05/08/11

      @marley - ‘it is very easy for introverts to allow interaction with virtual friends to substitute for efforts to make real friends’

      Why is that a problem? People make out that face to face social interaction is the be all and end all of good things. If you’re not well equipped to do it why would you take part?

      If I said to you that you had to do downhill runs at Mt Stromlo because that’s what people do would you throw yourself into it? Probably not because I’d hazard a guess than you’re not a keen and skilled mountain biker. In fact, it may hold no interest to you at all. It holds a great interest to myself and other riders but if you use your bike to roll around the riverside on weekends, or even if you don’t want to ride at all then that’s OK too.

      So, because some people participate in an activity, why does everyone else have to, regardless of skill level?

    • marley says:

      03:24pm | 05/08/11

      @Shifter - well, no, I wouldn’t throw myself down a mountain bike track - but I can and do ride a bike.  I think it’s a good basic skill to have.  I wouldn’t want to gladhand a roomful of complete strangers either (though I have in fact done it), but I do want to have the basic social skills to have a conversation with someone without having an anxiety attack over it.  I think that’s a good skill to have as well - in fact, I think it’s pretty much an essential one. 

      To me, the ability to interact with other people, to relate to them, one on one, face to face, is one of the things that makes us human. It’s a truism that 55%  or more of what we want to say we communicate through body language - and that’s a lot easier to do when you’re actually with someone, than over the ‘net, with or without webcams, video conferencing, or whatever. 

      That’s not to say the Facebook and other forms of communications aren’t damned important - makes it a helluva lot easier for me to keep in touch with family and friends in Canada and scattered around Australia - but it’ll never replace face-to face for me.  And if reliance on virtual friends interferes with people developing flesh and blood friends, well, to me that’s a problem.  Facebook et al should be a supplement, not a replacement.

      Anyway, I really did think your original comment was interesting and though provoking, so thanks for posting it.

    • Kika says:

      04:50pm | 05/08/11

      I agree with Shifter. Not everyone is cut out to be social butterflys. Not everyone is cut out to be the most friendly happy person ever. Some people don’t want to live that way and are happy being introverts. I am! It takes me a year to open up to people. AT LEAST.

    • Shifter says:

      06:01pm | 05/08/11

      @marley - I’m glad you get it. There are just some folks our there that are happy and comfortable without average levels of face to face interaction.

      Online interaction for those people may be incredibly satisfying, where as others may see it as inane banter.

      It just another one of those things that as long a folks are not impinging on the rights of another, I believe they are free to live the way they want.

    • sludger says:

      09:12am | 05/08/11

      I love the various methods of communication.  Before Facebook popped along I would keep in communication with old members of my squadron, past school friends etc by a letter a couple of times a year, or a letter (not including Christmas cards etc).  Then came email and I could easily communicate much quicker and be more up to date.  I use Facebook to see how mates are going, but I also use others such as Linkedin Plaxo etc.  They are all tools and used as such I find make keeping in touch and up to date more relevant.  I don’t post crap every day - sometimes my crap only goes up once a month - but my Friends are the same.  I know when a squadron buddy needs help, or an old colleague is looking for a job etc.  I love the whole technology thing.  I also might spend an hour or so a week playing games.  Great!  If my wife is out, I don’t want to watch TV etc it is a nice way to pass the time.

    • NSW says:

      09:12am | 05/08/11

      Fakebook has lowered the collective IQ of western society to an all time low. Bunch of vain, ignorant losers. Deactivate immediately, drones.

    • Chris L says:

      12:25pm | 06/08/11

      Lucky you possessed enough self awareness to not include online blogs in your diatribe of disdain.

    • Jem says:

      09:27am | 05/08/11

      People online are real people.  The conversations you have with them are real.  The online comments made here are real comments, written by real people.

      The person you are talking to may not be honest, but then anyone can lie to your face as well.  They may make inflammatory comments for the sake of provoking an argument, but I know people who are more than happy to do that in a face to face conversation.

      Interacting with people via social networking sites, MMOs, chat functions etc is just as real as any conversation you have on the telephone or face to face.  If someone is not engaging with people at all, that would be socially isolating.  Saying my conversations with my mother while playing scrabble on Facebook are not “real”, but chats with her while playing the game face to face are, is farcical and foolish. 

      My friends are real people.  I see them, I speak with them on a variety of platforms.  Phone calls are no different to Facebook chats. 

      As for the family that doesn’t eat together, that’s not technology’s fault.  We have a rule in our household that dinner is a meal eaten together at the dining table with the TV switched off.  They made the choice not to eat together, she can hardly blame Facebook for it.

    • Retired Soldier says:

      10:04am | 05/08/11

      gobsmack says: That may be true to a point but as I said earlier, you can bet they can recall who they talked to and what was said at the pub. You cannot do that when your head is full of brain damaging drugs and the conversation is usually about where to buy bigger and better ones. What you need to remember is that by the time you are at the age of those you criticize your mind will be so damaged you wont be able to hold a conversation about anything that may make sense to others. You should also be made aware of the fact the ” old drunks” only ever drank beer in their youth as they didn’t need to alter their weak minds to be entertained.

    • Freaking fed up says:

      11:55am | 05/08/11

      Jem…..really you believe that?
      Phone calls are completely different from Facebook, as is talking to someone face to face is diffferent to a phone call.

      What is missing out of this whole conversation is that facebook only allows the reader the view of words. There are no inflictions of tone, no body language to read.
      Humans have evolved to be able to read minute changes in a body or facial expression to be able to better asses a situation. be it fun or danger.
      Social media is ruining our already “on the brink of distruction” society. We need people to think, collaborate, and actively contribute to society. Learn manners, and how to keep your mouth shut as no one cares what you just LOLed at.
      Pretending to be someone else online is not the real you. It is a false representation. Therefore you are able to decieve your friend and family. The only real “you” online could be related to a skype video call.

      Here’s a suggestion. If you can be a confident, fearless, inquisitive and intelligent person online, then try it in the real world. You’ll be surprised.

    • Slothy says:

      01:22pm | 05/08/11

      “You should also be made aware of the fact the ” old drunks” only ever drank beer in their youth as they didn’t need to alter their weak minds to be entertained.”

      I don’ t have anything to add, I just can’t believe anybody could write that with a straight face. But hey, if you want gen Y to take credit for inventing shrooms, LSD, heroin, speed and dope, I’m sure we can oblige.

    • Kika says:

      10:05am | 05/08/11

      I suppose you’d call me a Gen Y female, 28 and love my facebook. Frankly I don’t have time to socalise. I work full time, and in bed by 8pm every night and I can chat to everyone on facebook when I want. Why do I need to see people face to face? Plus I’m painfully shy and have a bad self esteem so the less people need to ‘see’ me the better!

    • Tina says:

      10:27am | 05/08/11

      So you just accept the fact that you are shy instead of challenging yourself? And I think we all work full time.

    • marley says:

      11:19am | 05/08/11

      @Kika - I was painfully shy for a long time, but had a job that forced me to interact with people.  Best thing that ever happened to me - I’m still shy, but have no problem striking up conversations with people I’ve just met.  Not saying it was easy getting to this stage, but it has made me a much happier and more self-confident person.  And as my social skills progressed, so, not coincidentally, did my career.  I discovered I had leadership and management skills, and that was very good for my self-esteem (and so was the salary, I might add). 

      Don’t let your whole life be defined by the shortcomings you think you have now.

    • Kika says:

      12:45pm | 05/08/11

      Don’t worry about it! It’s too late for me… go on and save yourselves…!!!

      Tina - what do you call challenging myself? You mean talking to people for the sake of it? I don’t like people. Waste of time.

      Marley - Not me. I hate it. That’s my problem. I hate small talk and find it exceedingly painful.

      Why do I have to change? I am who I am.

    • Kika says:

      12:51pm | 05/08/11

      PLUS… in case you want to know I had an OTT controlling mother who never allowed me to grow as my own person until it was too late for her (mid teens and got myself a boyfriend) and have had bad skin my entire adult life so I really don’t like people looking at me…  Yes I have issues. So leave me alone to socialise on facebook where I don’t have to be seen.

      Thanks.

    • Tina says:

      01:43pm | 05/08/11

      Kika

      Ok I cant help it but I am so narrow minded and assume that EVERYONE needs face to face interaction and people they can touch in their lives. When you say you dont like people, Kika, then I believe that, although I dont believe you didnt wish it was different. But reading your post it might be good to have facebook and co around for people that have given up on themselves in real life?

    • marley says:

      03:30pm | 05/08/11

      @Kika - maybe I’m missing something here, but why are conversations via Facebook any different from conversations in person?  If you can avoid small talk on FB, why can’t you avoid it face to face?  It’s the same people, after all….

    • Kika says:

      04:35pm | 05/08/11

      No, no, no. I really don’t wish it was different. I am totally happy with my life. I have my husband, my family, my work. I am totally comfortable in my zone. Contrary to what you think, some people just don’t enjoy being around people. When I am socialising I constantly have to feel ‘on’ .. like I have to constantly think about what to say to make sure I don’t sound weird, and I’m just absolutely uncomfortable and want ‘out’ as quick as I can. I really don’t enjoy it.

    • Kika says:

      04:46pm | 05/08/11

      Marley - what did I tell you? I am PAINFULLY shy, have LOW self esteem and don’t like people ‘looking’ at me. Eye contact. I hate it! I also avoid facebook chat for that very reason about small talk. Just leave me alone in my shell. Is it so hard for you to understand that some people have low self esteems and don’t want to change?

    • Al says:

      10:20am | 05/08/11

      Is social media making ME anti-social…..NO, I was ALWAYS anti-social and don’t use social media regularly (usualy log in less than once a month) which suits me fine. I simply prefer solitary pursuits than having to deal with the superfical (and the majority incredibly stupid) people that inhabit this world.

    • Sandle says:

      10:23am | 05/08/11

      If I didn’t have facebook, no one would know that I’m alive.

    • Barry says:

      10:56am | 05/08/11

      Some of us like it that way. Not about you I mean, but some of us don’t want to be found.

    • Al says:

      10:25am | 05/08/11

      The other point is that the ‘real’ world is just as virtual as the virtual world. Our perceptions of the ‘real’ world are based on the limitations of our senses and how we process that information, which is different in every individual. As such, each person percieves the ‘real’ world differently than the next.

    • Erick says:

      10:55am | 05/08/11

      That’s a very good point, Al, and one I also hinted at in my first comment. Our “reality”, and our “self"consists of our perceptions and thoughts. Is the origin of those perceptions and thoughts more important than their effect?

    • Kika says:

      12:48pm | 05/08/11

      I agree. Who’s to say that the interaction you have with someone in the ‘real’ world is ‘real’ at all. You make small talk, talk about bllsht, and if you are female especially you warp yourself into someone who you aren’t just to keep the conversation flowing “Omg, like, you know, I totally agree darl”... (barf!).

    • Penguin says:

      11:12am | 05/08/11

      I really don’t understand the mindset where you have to choose between seeing friends in real life or online.  You know can you do both.  I talk to my friends online when I can’t see them in real life and when we can catch up we do.  Online interaction was really handy when I moved overseas for a year.

    • Slothy says:

      01:57pm | 05/08/11

      Penguin, that’s dangerously logical thinking there. Next you’ll be saying that social media can even make it EASIER to see people in person.

    • Paul says:

      12:01pm | 05/08/11

      “During the night at differing times her social media hermits emerge from their lairs to consume the food.”
      Well that is just a failure as a mother, who the hell puts that much effort into their kid’s dinner? you tell them its ready and they can warm it up if they miss it in my opinion.

    • Al says:

      12:34pm | 05/08/11

      There is another option I think is even better.
      Give them a specific time for the meal, if they miss it toss it out and force them to prepare their own.
      They will either learn to cook or learn to attend meals.

    • Anna C says:

      12:27pm | 05/08/11

      While social networking is good and has its uses, I still think that it is a poor substitute when compared to the real thing.

    • Reid Wright says:

      12:31pm | 05/08/11

      i’m much more attractive in cyber space.

    • Alex says:

      01:24pm | 05/08/11

      Dang these new fangled “Telephones”. Whatever happened to travelling miles and miles to see a person? Whatever happened to the heartfelt act of writing a letter and waiting days for your message to arrive? Kids these days spend all day on these things talking to some faceless drone on the other end.

      Now, any old buffoon can call me up uninvited and blather on about this and that. I’ve heard that people use it for deviant sexual purposes too!
      This new technology is for apathetic morons and hermits who can’t be bothered to speak to you face to face. It’s lowering the collective IQ of our society.

    • nciki says:

      03:06pm | 05/08/11

      There is a common misconception that if you have ‘facebook’ , suddenly you immediately sit in your room and never leave, facebooking all day. Simply ridiculious. I see half the people on my facebook in normal daily social interactions, facebook allows us to post pictures and interact etc in addition to our normal face to face communication.

    • ladybuglauren says:

      05:42pm | 05/08/11

      I agree, I think I must not be ‘getting it’ or maybe I’m not a typical FB user?  I go on there once at night most days to look at photos or catch up for the day on what my friends have been up to or plan drinks for the w/e.  I didn’t cancel my whole life and refuse to go out the day I got it. 

      Articles and comments about facebook seem to often be written by people who have never used it, but saw someone else use it once and read an article to get the gist of how it works, and then made vast sweeping statements about what people who use facebook are like.

      Bizarre.

    • marley says:

      08:12am | 06/08/11

      I agree with both of you about how Facebook should be (and generally is) used - but look at some of the comments above, and one gets the impression that some people are using Facebook to replace actual interactions with their friends, rather than to supplement them.  At least, that’s the way I’m reading some of the remarks.  And to me, that’s a bit of a worry.

    • Sam says:

      04:07pm | 05/08/11

      Computer games are like SPAM.  Loved by millions, but who knows why?

    • Sam says:

      04:07pm | 05/08/11

      Computer games are like SPAM.  Loved by millions, but who knows why?

    • Stuart says:

      04:33pm | 05/08/11

      Facebook friends arn’t and will never be your true friends,there are more lies,false images and false expectations on face book than all the fairy tales ever written,but it still sucks in the fools and the lonely cave dwellers every day.Go out and get a real life before it is too late for you.

    • Elphaba says:

      04:41pm | 05/08/11

      But what if the people on your Facebook are already your friends in real life?

      Your ignorance is showing.

    • ladybuglauren says:

      05:48pm | 05/08/11

      Again, do I not understand how facebook works?

      My facebook friends are my actual friends.  The ones I hang out with and see on a regular basis.  I use facebook to ask them how their day was, I look at their baby photos (ugh) and I plan events for big groups with minimal effort.  They upload clips and photos that I think are funny on my wall and I laugh at them.

      Not one person on my facebook ‘friends’ list is someone that I don’t know personally, have never met, or don’t see regularly, discounting those that have moved away.

      I thought that was pretty typical but now the internets are telling me that FB friends are people that I don’t know and are not real?  Am I doing facebook wrong?

    • LC says:

      07:54pm | 05/08/11

      And what if they are your friends in real life, and you merely use it to keep in touch with them in sometimes a cheaper fashion than over the phone?

      Idiot.

    • NESLIHAN KUROSAWA says:

      10:56pm | 05/08/11

      Hi Ian, 

      I think when it comes to Facebook & what it does for our generation, somehow I feel that there is no need to get all addicted & carried away with the idea of making lots of friends & very quickly!!  Making & keeping friends is much more serious as well as takes special effort on both sides.  Who is to say, who is definitely a trues friend!!  Having & keeping friends is a life long process as far as I am concerned!!

      For me personally, Facebook only serves the purpose staying in touch with friends who happen to be faraway,  it is great way to keep in touch as well as share personal information, after all it is free!!  I truly believe that nothing can take the place of having a cup of coffee with a close friend to talk about anything & every thing!!  Making time for actual human contact &  friendship seem to be very difficult right now!!  Because, we all believe in the instant gratification as we see in our children these days!!  We may be social creatures but, are we making any effort to make true friends??  Who knows and does any one really care??  Best regards to your editors.

    • Coral says:

      09:54am | 08/08/11

      It’s very antisocial.They are not “friends” just messages on a computer…you don’t know anything about them really. No contact, no conversation, no social skills….get a life all you facebookers

    • Eterio says:

      07:15am | 15/08/11

      they are my friends and relatives where they have a view of mostly positive attitude

 

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