Within hours of the drug scandal engulfing Essendon this week, I received an email with the subject heading: “Bomber’s new fitness coach.”

Last one to the goal post gets a special injection…

Attached was a photo of Lance Armstrong in an Essendon guernsey: a light-hearted, viral response to an increasingly dark national disgrace.

I’ve always had a pretty simplistic (some might say naive) view of sport’s role in shaping young lives: sport will teach them the value of teamwork and discipline; it will introduce them to new friends; and if they’re focussed on being fit, they’re less likely to get into drugs. Like many Aussie parents, I’ve also watched my boys and their mates as they’ve found their feet on the footy field, and wondered if any of them has what it takes to play AFL.

I’ve written before that it’s totally unfair to tar all football players with the same dope-dipped brush.

But it is fair to say that my simplistic views have been severely tested by this week’s bombshell revelations of organised drug-taking across all Australian sporting codes, and the involvement of crime figures in supplying drugs and match-fixing.

And if I had a son in the AFL right now, I’d be banging down the door of the club CEO and demanding assurances that my boy was safe from the kind of hormones they pump into horses, and protected from underworld thugs.

If you think I’m being shrill, consider the Australian Crime Commission’s finding that the infiltration of organised crime and doping by team officials was similar, [itals] but on a bigger scale, [end itals] than what the US Anti-Doping Agency found in the case of Armstrong.

As reported in Friday’s Advertiser, the commission found: “The difference is that the Australian threat is current, crosses sporting codes and is evolving.”

So what must codes like the AFL do now to ensure that punters like me keep buying tickets to matches, are willing to fund sporting arenas like the redeveloped Adelaide Oval, and keep serving up our kids as elite footy fodder?

Sports chiefs can start by taking responsibility for either failing or refusing to detect widespread criminal activity deep within their sporting operations.

(“It came as a shock as we have a very thorough and rigorous testing regime,” was Andrew Demetriou’s initial response to the Australian Crime Commission findings on Thursday. Obviously not thorough and rigorous enough, Mr Demetriou.)

As Patrick Smith wrote in The Australian on Friday, it’s also time to end an “inbred” sporting culture that rewards or blatantly ignores shoddy decisions and wrongdoing at administrative level.

“Easy pickings for organised crime,” he wrote. “If you cherish success more than you do good governance, then you have left the back door open and the safe unlocked.”

Then there’s the insidious issue of betting.

Watch any sport on the telly and it’s obvious the major Australian codes have gleefully fostered a symbiotic relationship between sport and gambling.

I am absolutely repulsed by the idea that my sons’ generation will enter their teenage years believing sport is an iPhone gambling experience.

I agree to a certain extent that a well-regulated industry is preferable to pushing the problem underground or offshore through prohibition, but revelations of organised crime links and match-fixing must surely warrant reining in this runaway $3.3 billion industry.

At the very least, as SA Independent Senator Nick Xenophon maintains, Australia should consider an immediate ban on ball-by-ball (or micro) betting during games. The potential for corruption is simply too great.

Rogue elements are now being told to give themselves up; that there’s nowhere to hide.

Let’s hope that’s true, and that this scandal proves to be a brief aberration – symptomatic of, but not defining the relatively new phenomenon of Australian sport as big business.

In the meantime, Mr Demetriou has urged AFL fans to keep the faith. Sorry – the time for blind faith is well and truly over.

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    • Zack says:

      05:25am | 10/02/13

      It is sad when politicians like Gillard are just as bad. No truth in their lives, no concept of morality and loyalty. Power at all costs with little regard to doing the right thing (from the Armstrong playbook). These sports people are not role models neither is Gillard who is suppose to represent Australia for all Australians…....not herself.

    • Swingdog says:

      09:36am | 10/02/13

      - 10 points.

    • Damien says:

      10:21am | 10/02/13

      its the godwins law of 2013.. mention an unrelated gillard or abbott rant and you automatically lose the argument. NEXT!

    • Kelly from west syd says:

      10:30am | 10/02/13

      + 100 points

    • Lindsay says:

      11:54am | 10/02/13

      @Zack Good work, bringing it back to this point again and again. It’s good that this article was relevant to Gillard and you mentioned her… Oh wait, it wasn’t… Anyway why single her out? They are all just as bad, see Abbott and his ‘gospel truth’

    • Zack says:

      01:17pm | 10/02/13

      The PM of a country is suppose to be more important than sports and other politicians. Maybe you have to defend her because if you don’t it just reflects very badly on this country. It is irrelevant only if you are willing to hold sports people to a certain standard that means you will have to hold the PM to a higher one. Enjoy the weekend looks like Rudd has created more problems for the PM, AFP involvement, this might make for a great week in politics smile

    • Rosie says:

      01:46pm | 10/02/13

      The story cannot be told any better. Until Minister for Sport, Kate Lundy catches those cheating and doping I have no problems allowing my children to look up at their football heroes.

      I’d sooner have the competitive footballers than Wayne Swan anytime. Wayne Swan even before achieving a budget surplus sent letters out to his electorate saying that a budget surplus was already achieved! BS!

    • nofunintended says:

      03:03pm | 10/02/13

      Don’t like sport, don’t like Gillard, good for you

    • Sammy says:

      05:51am | 10/02/13

      This is what happens when we make football players the important people in kids lives instead of those who truly understand morals, like priests.

    • sanity says:

      10:21am | 10/02/13

      Sorry, but since when were morals co-opted by the religious? You can still be a good person and not practice a religion. What about parents? What about scientists, certain musicians, certain actors/actresses (I say “certain” because there are some of each who don’t take drugs or harm others)? Are they all incapable of being role models for our children?

    • Sickemrex says:

      11:31am | 10/02/13

      *sprays coffee over keyboard*

      +1 Internets to you sir.

    • steiner says:

      12:27pm | 10/02/13

      You mean the male virgins who take their orders from another virgin in Rome, think condoms are worse than AIDS, and covered up child abuse for decades?
      Those people?

    • Gordon says:

      01:25pm | 10/02/13

      More bonus internets for Sammy for effortlessly proving Poe’s law. Sanity & Steiner: It. Was. A. Joke.

    • nofunintended says:

      03:15pm | 10/02/13

      Sammy: I think profesional wrestler should be the most important thing in kids lives.

    • tez says:

      03:19pm | 10/02/13

      Not many people get a gag anymore? sad

    • acotrel says:

      06:12am | 10/02/13

      ‘At the very least, as SA Independent Senator Nick Xenophon maintains, Australia should consider an immediate ban on ball-by-ball (or micro) betting during games. The potential for corruption is simply too great.’

      Where is your sense of fun ?  All gamblers know the game is always rigged. It is the reason that there are guys getting around with pony tails, and gold chains driving expensive sports cars, and some sitting at the top of corporate empires - it all adds colour to an otherwise dull existence .

    • Lola says:

      02:00pm | 10/02/13

      Who cares if they ban gambling on sports like football? If they did, it would at least leave the betting to 3rd world Asian and Indian corruptibles and other associated schlepps trying to get an edge off each other via dodgy information, which is what spot betting is about anyway. Hird and Demetriou should go: they’re amateurism is exactly the type these betting syndicates and pretend doctor types focus on.


      06:12am | 10/02/13

      Hi Lainie,

      For me personally the worst part of professional sports people using drugs must be the getting caught part.  Before it becomes public knowledge it is more like ‘what we know doesn’t hurt us” policy.  I only wonder if there are strict regulations and usual drug testing in place at all?  Drug use may or may not be wide spread in our society but can we still justify this practice by professional sports people in any way?  Australians should make informed choices regarding such practice in the sports arena as well as the question of such characters truly setting out to be true role models in our society.

      I most certainly think that the complications arise if the young generation feels that it is totally acceptable behavior and why question it if top athletes are doing it?  Then there is every danger that “drug use” will be seen as a normal part of our daily lives, a bit like underage drinking and smoking combined with peer pressure.  Young generation are impressionable to begin with and they want to be accepted no matter what.  These sort of news making headlines around surely doesn’t help that good old “say no to drugs” campaign a while back.  May be this time around we have to begin with some kind drug education programs targeting grown ups, instead?  Kind regards.

    • Helt says:

      06:52am | 10/02/13

      Its a sad state ofaffairs how they released this and left so many questions

      Mitchell Johnson ripped throughthe WI the other day. was it the Peptides?
      Manly beating Melbourne in the GF 40-0. Was Manly doping or Melbourne match fixing?
      I didnt watch AFL and I dont understand all the rules but now I wont bother learning.

      Sport is supposed to be have values like striving through adversity practice makes perfect and such but now I dont believe Australia has any sport we can trust. It will be decades before I believe in Australian sport again. I hope they do like NHL and lock them out until the sport is clean

    • Don says:

      07:26am | 10/02/13

      I concur completely on the ball by ball betting side of things. I have found it quite strange that everyone is so concerned about pokies and are putting in limits on withdrawls and removing atm machines from their proximity and yet you can essentially get cleaned out now from the comfort of you own home in little time at all. At least the pokies, as Keating put it to Hewson, “do you slowly”.

      As for AFL and rugby, I really didn’t play much sport when I was younger however I am more than pleased that I gave these two a miss. The number of people that I have worked with over the years who are now suffering due to “old footy injuries” are prolific. Shoulders that pop out of place, knees that are playing up and premature hip replacements abound.  Dodged that bullet.

    • TChong says:

      07:51am | 10/02/13

      “Would you trust these people” - the vast, vast, vast majority- yes.
      There are some untrustworthy coaches/ trainers / administrators, just the same as the phone hacking scandal has shown some, not all , journalistsas not being worthy of trust.
      The same goes for any other large group of peopole, in all aspects of life.
      Human nature= not all are good, not all are bad, most of us somewhere between.

    • A Concerned Citizen says:

      07:54am | 10/02/13

      Thankyou for this article, it is long overdue.

      I can never get why Australians insist we must look up to sports players as ‘role models’;
      All they do is get paid to run or kick a ball around, and pose for commercials; completely morally neutral and hardly a practical contribution to society- and that’s when they don’t start fighting.
      If there is one moral children are supposed to get is to “do whatever it takes to win a ball game at all costs”- hence the drugtaking.

      It seems the only positive behaviour is keeping fit; which any trip to a sports game will prove beyond doubt has NOT rubbed off on the overweight fans one bit.

      As it is, because Australians are so obsessed with this rubbish for some reason, and raise their children to be obsessed as well, this poor excuse that they are ‘role models’ will continue- and all of the bad behaviour will be part of the package our children will be taking in.

    • grant says:

      08:03am | 10/02/13

      You can stop writing your end of innocence articles now. It turns out this is mostly a problem in Rotten League and they got the other codes to be involved in a press conference that was mostly about them, so they could spread their muck around. My joy in the AFL and my club has been severely stressed over the last week, and it turns out to have been completely overblown. I am really angry about this, I hope Rotten League dies.

    • marley says:

      09:14am | 10/02/13

      Umm, so, for how long have the Bombers been playing in the NRL?

      The whole point is that that the proper governance of sport is being subverted by the interest in sponsorships, gates, TV rights, betting, you name.  Drug testing protocols are weak, the administrators ignore the bleading obvious (Demons’ tanking, fo example, although that wasn’t crime related), players get suspended for briefer periods than warranted so they can play in grand finals.  And that applies to all the codes.

    • frontline says:

      10:32am | 10/02/13

      You are right of course grant.
      The Canterbury Bulldogs are really under a lot of pressure.
      I’m sure the little babies will be crying in their cot till nana picks them up, pats them on the back and tells them everything is going to be alright.

    • grant says:

      11:03am | 10/02/13

      Got any real evidence the bombers have done anything wrong? I won’t be surprised if they don’t walk away untouched.

      While I’d agree money is subverting sport, I’d disagree it’s doing it in the way you’re suggesting. If anything it’s made the AFL cleaner because there’s much more to lose. If you want to go back into ancient history there’s cases of players being bribed and thrown games, the entry of Footscray into the league was particularly suspect. Steroid abuse was obvious back in the 70s.

    • Ben says:

      01:31pm | 10/02/13


      >>My joy in the AFL and my club has been severely stressed over the last week and it turns out to have been completely overblown.<<

      As if there weren’t enough casualties in this horrible saga. We can only hope and pray that Grant recovers his “joy”. Meanwhile, in Syria…

      >>I am really angry about this, I hope Rotten League dies.<<


    • marley says:

      01:43pm | 10/02/13

      @grant - I’m under the impression that it was the Bombers who reported they had problems.  What is clear is that their players were being induced/forced to take supplements the contents of which they weren’t certain about.  Now whether those supplements were legal or not is not really the issue;  the issue is the fact that the coaches and management don’t have a clue about the legality or otherwise of what their players were taking.  And they should have known down to the last molecule exactly what the team was being injected with.  That they didn’t is the real scandal.

    • grant says:

      03:16pm | 10/02/13

      Ben, take some time out from whipping yourself for all the world ills did you? How dare anyone enjoy anything in life.

      Marley, reporting a possible problem because of an association with a former Rotten League staffer is not the same as being guilty. How would you expect them to behave if they were innocent? Cover it up and say nothing?

    • brinkin says:

      08:22am | 10/02/13

      You do realise the ACC is duelling with the nsw police for keystone cop of the year(remember how long it took to raid the hsu)?The ACC has spent more than ten years chasing geriatrics on Harleys,result so far zero so I would think this is a big beatup to take the pressure off Gillard.

    • iansand says:

      08:30am | 10/02/13

      “... that there’s nowhere to hide”?  If Lance Armstrong has taught us one thing it is that hiding is all too easy.

    • navada says:

      08:31am | 10/02/13

      I totally agree with your remarks about sport and gambling.  It makes me cringe that the cricket now opens with a cross to some guy in the booth talking about the odds.  Somehow they seem to believe that adding the line “please gamble responsibly” at the end somehow makes it okay.  No way.

    • Glen says:

      09:02am | 10/02/13

      Hahahahaha Sammy, “like priests”, good one mate.

    • BL says:

      09:04am | 10/02/13

      I would trust them more than a Labor politician, especially given all the AWU, HSU and union corruptions. Why is the media staying so silent on the obvious and blatant corruption in unions and the labor party, yet so vocal about sports corruption?

    • Christian Real says:

      10:15am | 10/02/13

      The ovious and blatant corruptions in unions and the Labor party?
      Where is your proof to back up you accusations?
      Not only is your comment defamatory, it is also libel now that it has been printed.
      Liberal and National party have had some bad apples in their ranks over the years as well so don’t go stereo-tying the ALP or unions as the only party the has corruption in their ranks.

    • BS says:

      10:28am | 10/02/13

      You do realise that unions and the Labor party are not the same thing, or do you only read the Murdoch press?

    • Mickey T says:

      11:59am | 10/02/13

      “Why is the media staying so silent on the obvious and blatant corruption in unions and the labor party”

      Do you live in a cave BL?

    • Zack says:

      01:20pm | 10/02/13

      BS the ALP in controlled and influenced by unions, reality bite doesn’t it!?

    • nofunintended says:

      03:34pm | 10/02/13

      BL: It’s more difficult to trust somebody who is stupid.

    • Tator says:

      04:09pm | 10/02/13

      Christian Real,
      The BLF - so corrupt that the Union was deregistered, the CFMEU Grocon picket - illegal and against a Court Order.  The Painters and Dockers - criminals.  The ETU’s illegal pattern bargaining which lead to their secretary Dean Mighall’s expulsion from the ALP.  The current AWU scandal which is being investigated.  The HSU scandal with two former high level officials both facing numerous charges.  Eddie Obeid, Gordon Nuttall, Merri Rose, Brian Burke, Andrew Theophanous, Al Grasby and Rex Jackson have all been either investigated for corruption/extortion/fraud within their governments time and some convicted.  No defamation there as there is truth to the comment

    • Diogenes says:

      09:11am | 10/02/13

      There was something about this I don’t understand after reading Wayne Bennett’s comments yesterday so I went to the ASADA website and now all is clear

      The ASADA report for 2011/12 says “During 2011–12 we conducted 3,996 government-funded tests across 45 sports and 3,200 user-pays tests for Australian sporting bodies and other organisations.”  Elsewhere in the report it says that a whole 33 athletes were caught. 33/7196 - I didn’t bother to see what they were caught for

      ASADA also says “a decrease of four per cent in testing revenues due to a combination of a three per cent increase in charges from 1 January 2011, offset by a decrease in testing demand outside of major clients, and strategic positioning towards a greater proportion of blood analysis in major professional sports.” (whoda thunk it ? You put the price up and you sell less )

      A whole pile of new gear + fewer people want to use =  all makes sense now

    • T says:

      09:46am | 10/02/13

      How about raising your kids yourself? You are after all the people who will have a significant impact on shaping not only their personality, their love lives and their jobs but you teach them your morals without even speaking.

      How about teaching them sports ‘stars’ are humans and make mistakes? How about teaching them to never put anyone on a pedestal?

      Because that would be a smart thing to do, but it is easier to let other people shape your kids instead of you.

      Instead of “banging down the door of the club CEO and demanding assurances that my boy was safe from the kind of hormones they pump into horses, and protected from underworld thugs”. Why don’t you teach your son right from wrong? Use it as a real life example that behaviour like this is not acceptable. So he will never inject himself in the first place.

    • Sanity says:

      10:34am | 10/02/13

      I agree that this article was also very long overdue. We seem to place too much emphasis on sports and not enough emphasis on things that actually matter. Every time an article comes out regarding the education system (including anything relating to teachers, students, NAPLAN, curriculum etc.) we are quick to deride teachers and mock the education system in general, pointing out that our kids are failing to display the skills that they have been taught (and they have been taught them for the record) and that they won’t amount to anything. Being educated seems to be very low on people’s priorities and it’s no wonder when our role models don’t show what THEY’VE been taught in school.
      How about we start encouraging our kids to look up to scientific or cultural role models, rather than people who simply kick around a ball for 2 hours and get paid for doing so, despite the fact that said money could be used to fund other programs that are MUCH needed.

    • Diogenes says:

      02:06pm | 10/02/13

      have you seen the video of the breakfast talk given by Dr Benjamin Carson ?  Bolta had on his blog yesterday.

      Even if you don’t agree with all he says, he and his wife started a foundation that really rewards high academic achievers - and does everything sports teams do - eg the humongous trophy for the school trophy cabinet, big assemblies , dinners etc , as opposed to what normally happens (a small pin to be worn on the lapel) . Teachers report having that having a Carlson scholar raises the rest of the class.

    • voluntering is dead says:

      10:50am | 10/02/13

      No…....... Because the generation x factor is prominent..I should know. They are the same ones who pushed for the “blue card” to coach junior footy and killed the volunteer coach,destroyed the unpaid suburban amateur league sportsperson..I dont coach any more because of this dichotomy of morality of this group.They cannot be trusted nor do they trust others,which is a common fault, this generation have.Sucess at all costs so they seem to preach. Call it a lack of moral compass,it exists across the board within this generation,even hiiden very cunningly within the police force,with the latest propganda emphasis on controlling every potential/possible/implied nanny minded band aid solution.The result is, they, this generation x have BIG EGOS

    • Mad Man says:

      11:00am | 10/02/13

      Would you trust these people to teach your children values?

      Sure. I already trust someone else to care for them while I’m at work, the tv to entertain them, advertising to teach them what to eat and drink and their peer group to provide guidance and support. You see, I’m a very busy, very important “modern parent” and if someone else is willing to take responsibility for what I should be doing, who am I to stop them.

      Did I mention that I’m very busy and very important?

    • T says:

      12:58pm | 10/02/13


      Please take care of my spawn society, I’m having a margarita!

    • nofunintended says:

      04:00pm | 10/02/13

      Mad Man;  It’s great that you are still there doing what you don’t do even if you are what you mention.

    • Luc Belrose says:

      11:02am | 10/02/13

      The young people and adults have always looked upon the top sports players as heroes and demi-gods they cherish and love. They admire their skills, competence and success playing by the rules. Now that “Australian sporting codes, and the involvement of crime figures in supplying drugs and match-fixing” allegations are rampant, and while waiting for the Sports authorities to fix this sad state of affairs, where are they going to turn to for their entertainment and weekend pleasures.
      Perhaps they can turn to watching NSW politics which provide compelling and thought provoking entertainment of another kind!

    • gordie says:

      11:03am | 10/02/13

      I am really puzzled about this. Kate Lundy looking down the camera at the press conference and saying   If you take drugs we will catch you, If you rig matches we will catch you instead of If you have taken drugs we have caught you, If you have rigged games we have caught you. Then at the All Stars game last night at half time she said What a great week for Rugby League this has been.    On a different point, most Rugby League players dont want to be seen as role models. They just want to play a game they love,get well rewarded for what they go through in games and just be normal men.My three boys grew up playing football 2 still playing senior grade and never regarded them as role models.They were just footballers.I consider myself and their grandfathers role models for my kids.When the media get their heads around that the better it will be

    • Mouse says:

      11:11am | 10/02/13

      I can remember when footy players were paid a sum for playing but had an ordinary 9-5 job through the week. Sure, the footy money was a bonus but few could live off it and it certainly wasn’t enough to take drugs for or risk your integrity by taking bribes for either.
      It was a great thing, play for your district, play hard, play to win, lap up the adoring fans that cheered you during the match, have a few drinks after the game and back to work again on Monday. If you pulled a muscle, the coach got the bloke in the dressing room to massage it for a while, bit of deep heat, panadol if it was really sore, take it easy for the week, see ya at training Wednesday night!
      My, how things have changed. I sometimes think that our “progressive” society isn’t that progressive after all!  lol :o)

    • grant says:

      12:00pm | 10/02/13

      So beyond Essendon, who are probably clean, this whole hysterical
      scandal involves ONE player at ONE club, that isn’t even on a current
      playing list. There are NO suspected instances of match fixing.

      What a EPIC BEAT UP! I can’t hear the disappointment in the voices of the reporters already.

    • JT says:

      12:06pm | 10/02/13

      I pity poor disallusioned people like Zack COM 1, I think he would be one that would be easilly led into taking drugs or is he already on something now. And yes all sports must be cleaned-up now.

    • JT says:

      12:06pm | 10/02/13

      I pity poor disallusioned people like Zack COM 1, I think he would be one that would be easilly led into taking drugs or is he already on something now. And yes all sports must be cleaned-up now.

    • nofunintended says:

      04:13pm | 10/02/13

      He is a She sets a point gets answered by ?

    • BC says:

      12:22pm | 10/02/13

      Maybe if people realised it’s just some blokes chasing a ball around, there would be no problem at all. Maybe if the people that REALLY make a difference in this world were paid like footballers….
      Maybe, maybe, maybe.

    • steiner says:

      12:33pm | 10/02/13

      Winners are deified, and non-winners are pilloried as ‘losers’. Getting a leg up in sport can mean the difference between deification and being left behind in the dustbin of history.  And we know which path many sportspeople will take when faced with the choice.
      This is a problem that cannot be solved while fortune and fame are the prize for winning.  You will simply get more elaborate tricks to evade tests and ways to cheat without getting caught.

    • Baaah says:

      12:48pm | 10/02/13

      Given the likely use of peds by afl players runs at about 1/8th of 1%, which is certainly much lower than the general population, your kids are probably safer with the afl than they are with you.

    • exercise scientist says:

      12:56pm | 10/02/13

      I’m always amazed by the naivety of the public regarding drugs in sport. The vast majority of elite athletes use a variety of banned substances. The reason the very few get caught is because the drug testing regimes can only catch the most blatant and clumsiest dopers. Even when caught the legal processes will almost invariably exonerate the drug cheat because the onus of proof is impossibly high. The guilty athletes (including several famous Australian Olympic swimmers) are typically given the option to quietly “retire” rather than face suspension . They can then resume competition once the unofficial ban has elapsed.

    • Utopia Boy says:

      01:04pm | 10/02/13

      Australian sport needs to disengage from partnerships with gambling organisations.
      The three strikes rule needs to go.
      All those found involved at any level of doping, match fixing or illegal betting MUST be banned for life.
      While some might say it’s not such a big deal, some of the players and other employees represent the country on the international stage.
      I guess we now know why we performed so poorly at the last Olympics, eh?

    • stephen says:

      01:21pm | 10/02/13

      It is the betting in sport, and on sport that, is the problem.

      And those caught as drug cheats should face a life ban, and for Demetriou to emphasize a 3 strikes rule, to my mind, reeks of an admission that drugs in AFL is rife.

      And no, I would not expect any good kid to hold anyone else up as role-model, except themselves.

    • Bho Ghan-Pryde says:

      01:22pm | 10/02/13

      Everyone knows substances made of whatever are used by sports people. No news there. The only reason this is splashed across the headlines with photo ops on the steps of parliament house is to distract from the ALPs disastrous start to this very, very long campaign. It is like the riot at the tent embassy last year and just as real - a beat-up from the Julia spin machine.

    • Gordon says:

      01:31pm | 10/02/13

      Since when do you want other ANY people teaching your children their values?

    • Ros says:

      01:44pm | 10/02/13

      I would certainly be more comfortable with sports persons values than our current media elites.

      Heard the one about the vials of urine in the change room Lainie. Turned out to be one old jam jar with possibly five year old urine in it.

      Lainie’s immediate unquestioning acceptance of the concocted emergency and conflation of individual use of performance enhancing drugs and match fixing by organised crime,  (not held to have a causal relationship by other involved sport and crime bodies that I can find) makes very clear why this is the most despicable self serving act of this hollow government. What do you mean corruption in the ALP, look at sport, truly monumental corruption, nothing to see in the ALP

    • Ken Oath says:

      02:24pm | 10/02/13

      Spare me the righteous, covetous, god I wish I made their money for doing nothing, rotten apple throwing at the poor bastards in the stocks. What needs to happen now is some swift, decisive action by sports administrators to cut out this cancer. For the fans, but more importantly for the innocent, honest sportsmen and women.

    • Ken Oath says:

      02:47pm | 10/02/13

      Why are comments closed on the articles below yours when that is not supposed to happen til 6 o’clock tonight? One of life’s little mysteries I guess. I had to work today. (Is this a white collar, shiny bum site or what?)

      Why don’t women care if men are portrayed as sex objects? Here’s why.

      And bear in mind I have no statistical, scientifically valid, empirical evidence to back this up but I’d say on a best guess based on a lifetime of experience it’s because they know men just really don’t give a shit.

      We are not half as anal as you guys are and we don’t take ourselves one tenth as seriously as you guys do. More importantly we can laugh at oursleves. The feminists will say that is because we have the power position but I think it’s even more elementary than that.

    • tez says:

      04:08pm | 10/02/13

      ‘‘Why are comments closed on the articles below yours when that is not supposed to happen til 6 o’clock tonight? One of life’s little mysteries I guess. I had to work today. (Is this a white collar, shiny bum site or what?)’‘

      ‘‘We are not half as anal as you guys are and we don’t take ourselves one tenth as seriously as you guys do’‘. ARE YOU SURE MATE

    • Sanity says:

      04:09pm | 10/02/13

      If you checked the dates, you would’ve seen that apart from the Weekend Open Punch, all the articles were written yesterday.

    • tez says:

      02:54pm | 10/02/13

      Sports betting agencies running commercial during games should be a big NO NO just like grog and fag commercial were stoped. You have the young kid sitting there watching a game with you and some joker or dolly comes on and Hi now is the time to bet on this or that in the next what ever , real good tactics in developing the next bunch of problem punters. Though I hardly think this level of betting is causing the drugs/coruption in sport it appears to be a much bigger Asian fish that won’t be easy to fry.

    • Terribla says:

      03:08pm | 10/02/13

      No, I wouldn’t trust these people to teach my children values

    • jb says:

      03:19pm | 10/02/13

      I would be surprised if it’s as rampant as being made out, sounds more like a distraction tactic from McTiernan

    • Tom says:

      03:54pm | 10/02/13

      “Shit happens” EVERYDAY
      Who can you trust?


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