The debate over the abolition of the states is a non-debate. Aside from a few single-issue crazies who want to turn back the rivers to create an inland sea, or as a moot debating point for constitutional law enthusiasts, there is no clamour whatsoever to pursue such a complex and challenging reform.

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Perhaps the argument should be recast, with a proposal that if we aren’t prepared to abolish the states, we should at least abolish New South Wales.

Under the baton-passing stewardship of NSW Labor, with the top job having been hand-balled from Morris Iemma to Nathan Rees to Kristina Keneally in just over 12 months, NSW has cemented itself as a failed state, if not a rogue state, on the national stage.

Its economic performance has held back the rest of the country. Its woeful political management threatens to hurt Kevin Rudd with many voters waiting not just with baseball bats but Molotov cocktails, cream pies and Uzis to send anyone who’s vaguely involved with the Labor Party a pretty blunt demonstration of their disgust.

If you want an indication of how crook the place has become, look no further than the galling opportunism of the Keneally Government this week in trying to cash in on Victoria’s discomfort over the Indian student bashings.

One of the least savoury features of our federalism over the past decade or so has been the one-upmanship and carrot-dangling which state governments have employed to attract investment.

Their tactics have distorted the free market and thrown public money at private investors who often haven’t shown up anyway. The bidding war which erupted between the states over Virgin’s expansion into the Australian aviation market involved the profligate elimination of public funds which should rightly have been spent on nurses, cops and teachers. Poor old Richard Branson almost needed to take an AVO out against the then Queensland Premier Peter Beattie as he was fawned over and feted with buckets of public cash. The bungling of contracts such as the outsourcing of information technology by South Australia’s Brown Liberal Government to computer giant EDS was a case of public waste writ large.

But what the NSW Government did this week over the Indian student fiasco had a new dimension. It was tasteless.

Using the cover of the lofty-sounding Premier’s Council on International Education, the NSW Government basically embarked on a parasitic self-promotional exercise to lure Indian students here at the expense of Victoria.

Shorn of its community-minded pretence and its blatherings about inclusiveness and multiculturalism and diversity and harmony, it was a cheap nudge-nudge wink-wink exercise aimed at telling the lucrative Indian student market that they’re statistically less likely to get thumped in Sydney than they are in Melbourne.

Keneally announced that she would deploy one of her ministers to India to reassure education representatives that students would be provided with safe accommodation in NSW.

She said that some Indians were failing to differentiate between Sydney and Melbourne and that the NSW Government wanted to reassure them that up here in the Emerald City everything is just peachy.

“NSW is a welcoming place to live, work and study,” she said.

“We want to ensure that international students in NSW continue to receive a high quality education in a safe environment.”

Keneally also said that the Premier’s Council on International Education would be working more closely with the NSW Police to advise Indian students on how best to secure safe places to live.

This is a decisive response to a non-existent problem. No-one in India has been talking about attacks on Indian students in Sydney. All the coverage has involved Melbourne.
This play should be seen for what it is – a cheap, commercially-inspired, head-hunting exercise.

The statements from Ms Keneally were notable for one thing – they made no effort to explain the Victorian situation in its proper context. Instead, they harped about how good things are up here.

Rather than eliminating confusion on the subcontinent it is likely to create more. Our multi-layered constitutional arrangements are confusing enough at the domestic level, so it’s hard to fathom what an international audience will make of them.

It is conduct which runs contrary to the national interest, as befits a government which has irredeemably lost its way.

The problems in Victoria have stemmed from two things.

Firstly, as was argued in this column a month ago after Major General Peter Cosgrove’s straight-talking intervention, it’s been exacerbated by the failure of people in authority to act swiftly in identifying the role of racism in some of these attacks.

Secondly, and more damagingly, it’s been made worse by the recklessness of the Indian popular press in distorting and amplifying every incident as a racist incident. Especially when, in the past two weeks, we’ve learned that a self-styled “hate crime” victim who claimed to have been set alight had accidentally torched himself while trying to burn his car for insurance. Or that the three people charged over the murder of a young Indian are themselves also Indian.

It’s a really complicated and, at times, almost unmanageable issue. When the reality of what is happening is so often wilfully ignored by the most powerful media in India, it’s hard to know what John Brumby or indeed anyone can do to take the heat out of the situation.

The actions of the NSW Government in swanning into this confused scenario will do no-one any good. Unless of course you define good as slicing a bigger share of the Indian student market for NSW at the expense of the hapless Vics.

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    • John A Neve says:

      06:39am | 13/02/10

      Perhaps David could tell us why the abolition of the states is a non-debate?
      It makes a lot of sense to a lot of people, me for one.

      There is no denying the the state of governance in this country is in decline. We have more politicians per head of population than (to the best of my knowledge), any where else in the world.

      We have duplication on that many fronts it’s not funny, we have variance in state and federal legislation and all the who-ha that goes with it.

      The abolition of the states is long over due.

    • PatC says:

      11:14am | 13/02/10

      Very true, however I doubt that the debate will struggle to get serious media attention because of the fear of lost revenue from electoral advertising. One day commercial media may realise that the lost revenue will be replaced by election advertising from Regional Council elections and they may start giving the conversation space.

      Not only is the abolition of the state governments long overdue it is totally achievable given the high speed transport and communications we have today compared to a century ago.
      I believe it is already underway (unofficially) and has been slowly happening for some years. Look closely at things like amalgamated regional councils and the moves to get them recognised in our constitution, Federal takeover of high priority roads (Federal Highway Network), a move towards a national rail gauge, rumblings about a Federal takeover of hospitals, national school curriculum, all the things that Regional Councils can’t handle. Add that to the continuous flow of duties and responsibilities from the States to Regional Councils and it becomes easy to see State Governments disappearing in our lifetime.

    • Jacquie Butterfield says:

      02:37pm | 13/02/10

      One size fits all didn’t work when buying of merchandise was centralised in Melbourne by Myers in 1989.  Sales fell drastically in clothing in every other state. 

      One central government, a politburo, gives us no organisation which can stand between us and the politburo.  Where will be choice be then?

      One central funding and decision-makinig body may create a bottleneck, while the politburo is deciding on greatest needs.  Another risk introduced is that the greater need may be decided according to the less safe seat.

    • John A Neve says:

      03:46pm | 14/02/10

      Jacquie Butterfield @ 1537hrs,

      I think your analogy is a good one. This country is currently being run like a large store. It’s branches sell the same goods at different prices, just like Myers, they price on what the market will bear.

      That is not a good way to run a country, one law should apply to all, what we need is one government, one country and one people.

      Under a central system we’d still have electoral representation, we’d have a Senate, which some states don’t have. What could be fairer than that?

    • Jes says:

      07:22am | 13/02/10

      I would think that attracting Indian students would be a negative after what the Indian press has done.  Cronulla was a backlash against cultural disharmony that was not adequately addressed and so allowed tensions to explode and that was in Sydney. So no city immune from it. It is the trial and tribulations of multi-cultural immigration policy.

    • Paul says:

      07:46am | 13/02/10

      utterly revolting….and this is what GenX has to offer now that “we” are taking the positions of power. We deserve to be sent into a room to watch Reality Bites for eternity (maybe that’s too harsh).  I’ve spoken with NSW ALP members about what it’s like to be part of the party in power there….if that state were a friend you’d have staged an intervention by now and whacked it into dr Drew’s celebrity rehab.

    • Bruce says:

      08:28am | 13/02/10

      What would you expect from the worst state government ever, and now run by a “hand puppett”.

    • Pat Cronin says:

      10:56am | 13/02/10

      Question?
      What has the current attacks on Indian students got to do with ending state governments. If you wanted to write a piece on these attacks you should have been honest about it up front instead of using the conversation around abolishing state governments as a hook. You did your credibility no good at all.

    • fluffy says:

      11:15am | 13/02/10

      After finally agreeing to let whatever water NSW was unable to store, to flow intoSA, then thinking that she had been too generous, decides to announce that she was still to decide if the flows would be a gift or a loan. 

      Well thank you very bloody much!

      Whatever the actual situation, the amount of water available, or the storage capacity of NSW,  thats just a disgusting attitude.

      Shes the sort of person I imagine who would kick a puppy if it came to lick up a few crumbs that fell off her table… theres names for people like her.

    • Newcastle, Sydney, Wollongong says:

      02:11pm | 13/02/10

      You can’t say that attacks on Indian students has not received Indian coverage after a group of them poured onto the streets of the Sydney suburb of Harris Park to protest agains thte violence that they are confronted with. You should have done some research there.

      I think NSW would be happy in the long run if we were removed from the Cth. Our GST payments wouldn’t be propping up states that are only currently advantaged by the resources boom that will end when there is nothing left to mine.

      NSW will happily continue with it’s service economy based on finance, banking, legal services etc and a rich farming basin and not have to prop up a bunch of dead states like we were forced to do for the first 100 years after federation.

    • GETTING YOUR A INTO G says:

      02:03pm | 14/02/10

      COME ON JOURNO’S - WE ART THOU?

      If the Indian coupled with the other off-shore media can do it so can you.  The power of the media hey what?  If the indies can do, so can you ONLY BETTER..!!!!!

      Get you A into G and spread the news.  This is what you are good at.  Made our Government on both sides, of the fence more accountable. 

      Get pen to paper NOW,  finger to keyboards ,set the seem, hype-up the hypia and do you stuff.  The general public needs to now and would be very, very gratful.

    • INDIAN STUDENTS says:

      03:54pm | 14/02/10

      NEWCASTLE,SYDNEY WOLLONGONG:- PLEASE look further in the Australian riots caused by the Indians.  It was a criminal charge handed down.  Do yourselves a favor guys read the legal documents if you can.
      If it would be up to me I would have handed down a very stern judgement.  I would have charged the people responsible for causing the demonstration and riots. with ‘vicarious liability”.  Legal People would know what I’m on about.  They could explain it far better then I.

    • nick says:

      02:55pm | 13/02/10

      I am in Bangalore, india at the moment, and was horrified to see this on the local news last night. If anyone is in any doubt that the media here beats up these stories let me assure you that the local coverage was nothing less than spiteful of the Victorian government, and cheered on nsw as “welcoming Indian students”. If the nsw premier set out to achieve good publicity then she has certainly gained the media’s attention here. However, as Australians in India we felt nothing but disgust at her actions. We feel that she has fueled the fire and in many minds here confirmed that Victoria is a rascist state. I am ashamed of her actions.

    • omegaman says:

      03:34pm | 13/02/10

      creating an inland sea is a great idea

    • IS SHE THE GIRL FOR THE JOB OR WHAT? says:

      03:45pm | 13/02/10

      With friends like NSW who needs enemies – KENEALLY GOV.


      With the constant clearly out of the Labour Parties Pantry has made it look like two maybe three cleaning companies have been fighting for the contract with each of them winning it and loosing it.  Now, despite this manner of ‘now you have it and now you don’t’, the party seems to be holding up pretty well considering.  Word has it Keneally is just another Pauline Hanson only Kristina possess a sweeter tone and a type of elegance required for the job as it is for the minute.  Keneally more so, holds onto a pleasingly graceful and stylish appearance or manner even though she is looked upon as ‘a puppet’.  I guess Labour figures Keneally is the solution to a problem for the time being.  We will run with the Keneally fix for now, and see how it pans out as we go.  More or less, she’ll do for now despite her accent sounding like a Dutch/ American immigrant or child of one.

    • Steve of Cornubia says:

      06:44pm | 13/02/10

      Your comment:You say that there is no ‘clamour’ to abolish the states; I’ll have to take your word on that. However, I hear a lot of people complain about (a) the high taxes we pay in Australia (when you estimate this accurately, including ALL government fees and charges) and (b) the absurd number of politicians and public servants that Australia employs - along with the huge number of often quite grand offices they occupy and we pay for. Also, apart from the frankly bonkers wage and expenses bill we foot for working MPs, we also have to look after the buggers when they’ve retired, in much fancier style than most of us could ever dream of.

      So.

      I would imagine that removing one or two levels of administrators and beaurocrats (i.e. the States) would allow us to run a significantly ‘smaller government’, or at least to reduce the vast numbers of those public servants who earn large salaries for duplicating management of the same function at several levels.

      I reckon that, if teh people of Australia really understood what our state-based beaurocracy was costing, they’‘d vote to abolish the states without a second thought.

    • Yes to large salaries? NO/YES says:

      12:27pm | 14/02/10

      STEVE THE MAN

      Indeed to what you say.  Apart from the tax the people of Australia pay, they would be furious.  Better described as feral cats with hair risen exactly like one.  To become aware of the ridiculous, absurd costs involved in the keeping and maintaining MP’s to the end of their day on earth in just not good enough. 

      PERHAPS folks if we paid our Pollies more.  And I mean a lot more.  Having had said that, we make them far more accountable for the job they do or have not done,  if you know what I mean.

      Let’s face it guys/gals, face it that you, if you could that is, hold onto a position as such, for grime death.  Well to perfectly honest, if it be me, I would hold onto my seat, any seat, whatever and were ever for as long as I can.  Holly Molly, gee-whiz, where else would I get my pillows fluffed up ‘till the rest of time?  Give me a brake!

    • JohnM says:

      07:11pm | 13/02/10

      I am surprised that no one has noticed to this day that Kristina Keneally has access to something which resembles clear concrete hair spray, that stuff should be patented. Did not even move in the recent storms we have had here in Sydney, awesome! smile

    • gerard oosterman says:

      07:48pm | 13/02/10

      Ending state governments would get my vote. All that double dipping and duplicating. What is legal and lawful in one state is not in another.

      Extradition of people who have committed crimes in another state.  Amazing!

      You can enjoy a glass of wine with a meal in a cafe in Victoria but not in Queensland. Different building codes, educational systems, health systems.

      Just a remnant of our colonial past with independence of states at the feet of ‘Mother England”.
      Border control for fruit-fly, remember that beauty, as if flies could not fly across.

      I always thought Australia was a single united country.
      http://oosterman.wordpress.com/

    • Paul says:

      09:11pm | 13/02/10

      it’s 13 hours later.  NSW still sucks.

    • Rob says:

      08:37am | 14/02/10

      Bring on the election and watch them fall,the mushroom syndrome has failed for labour as well as their re election to government.As for the abolishment of state governments in favour of total federal government ,put it to a referendum and let the people of australia decide.

    • Craig Lambie says:

      10:06am | 14/02/10

      I have to agree with @John A Neve, abolishing the states should be the discussion here.  I would welcome a “proper” piece on that please.
      Yes, I agree the bashing of Vic has been a little harsh, as I am sure media takes pretty much any story out of context, it is pretty easy for them to “ignore” certain elements of a story to make it more of a hit that sells papers (or gets more impressions).  That is life.  Anyone that reads media regularly will know and understand that (hopefully) and take every story with a pinch of salt, and if it really concerns them, they will go looking for other sources of information, ie. they might read a different report or 3 to get a fuller picture, only passing judgement after getting as full a story as possible.
      If people rely on one source of information and pass judgement based on that, well we shouldn’t really worry about them, as they are obviously ignorant.

    • WHAT IS YOUR REMEDY? says:

      12:53pm | 14/02/10

      WHAT IS A GOOD FIX?

      The ending of our State Governments and the power they hold (s107) is most certainly a great idea, a huge forward movement to ponder over. 

      One aspect to consider about though, is giving too much power to one head of government and that is no good at all.  Have you thought along those lines,
      DO TELL?  What remedy, do you have in mind, do tell - please?

    • Dennis says:

      01:48pm | 14/02/10

      We should live in anarcho-syndicalist communes.  Take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week, but all the decisions of that officer have to be ratified at a special biweekly meeting, by a simple majority in the case of purely internal affairs, but by a two-thirds majority in the case of more—

      Well you get the gist..Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.

    • Steve says:

      06:41pm | 14/02/10

      And lets not forget that NSW was the home of the Cronulla Riots!
      Shame, Premier, Shame!

    • Brendan says:

      04:08am | 15/02/10

      Abolishing the states seems to imply that the Federal Government has been wholly competent in pursuing their own programmes. One look at the wastefulness of the Building the Education Revolution Programme and the Insulation Subsidy Programme would suggest it has not.
      The states are an important and necessary control on the power of central government; removing the states and their elected representatives will be offset by the substitution of unelected officials to maintain controls. The interests of the more populous states, Queensland, NSW and Victoria will take precedence over the interests of the rest as the “Will of the People” is utilised to justify the transfer of funds from the high exporting regions of WA, northern Queensland, South Australia and the Northern Territory to keep life comfortable in the welfare dependant inner States.
      If you are sick of the machinations of the party machines and feel that the politicians of either Labor or the Liberals are not answering your needs, then vote for somebody else! The idea of removing a level of representation because you don’t like the representation you are getting and replacing it with a level of beuraucracy is insane. Just how much say do you expect to get in these appointments of unelected officials with more interest in career advancement than with what people really want or even require?

    • John A Neve says:

      05:30am | 15/02/10

      Brendan @9508hrs,

      You are looking at this issue all wrong. This is not about how good or bad our current federal government is. It’s about improving the whole system.

      Try not to look at things in isolation, try to see the big picture, don’t you think things could be better?

    • Anjuli says:

      12:00pm | 15/02/10

      I for one would rather WA succeed rather than abolish the states as then all of our monies would be pour into the bottomless pit that is NSW as it is they get part of our GST.

    • John A Neve says:

      02:50pm | 15/02/10

      Anjuli,

      If WA were to sucede the only losers would be WA.
      As to the division of the GST, the current formula was agreed to by all states. As the population ebs and flows one would hope the formula would be adapted, but who knows?

      The point you make, is the very reason to abolish the states, this THEM & US is killing this country.

    • Carl Palmer says:

      02:53pm | 15/02/10

      I don’t see what the fuss is all about. If Sydney / NSW can manage the “perception” and do a better job than Vic then what’s the problem. And why should NSW defend Victoria? If Victoria is that silly then that’s their fault. It is a free market.

      If Vic can’t manage the perception, then NSW has got nothing to loose - the place is stuffed anyway and there is only one way for the state to go.

      You make it sound like Indian students are only found in Vic and nowhere else in Aust? We have lots of students from other parts of the world what’s so different about Indian students.

      As for “…the NSW Government basically embarked on a parasitic self-promotional exercise to lure Indian students here at the expense of Victoria.” That’s a little harsh.

      How can you on one hand say that it a disgraces, cheap, tasteless and then say it was blown out of all proportion. We know it was blown out of proportion. So we don’t have a “problem” only how the “perception” is managed.

      I say let them in NSW because you never know they might go down to Cronulla with their friends and enjoy what a real metropolitan beach is like unlike that Port Phillip “Bay”. There’s a few good Indian restaurants around there for them to feel at home.

      Finally, is anyone suggesting that the Feds don’t waste money??? They make the states look like amateurs especially with the AGW saga and the “how can you sleep at night while your roof is burning” fiasco.  The Feds realy know how to spend more faster.

    • Brendan says:

      08:03am | 17/02/10

      @John A Neve
      I was merely using current programmes as an easily understood example of the inefficiency of the federal government.
      How does replacing elected representatives with career oriented people with zero accountabilities to the community and zero presence in the community serve as an improvement? The system is fine- you elect a government- don’t like that government vote it out- don’t like the alternative- vote for someone else. The problem is the participants- we are not naturally an extreme people yet the parties offer nothing but an extremist choice and the electorate is content to vote for the lesser of two evils. Rather than removing a level of representation it should be obvious that what is required is teaching the average voter to understand the importance of their vote and their choice.

      WA enjoys substantial trade surpluses on both international ($50bill)  and intranational trade ($10bill), relatively low levels of personal debt and low levels of welfarism. I think you would find that WA would do alright by itself.

 

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