It’s a somewhat over-worn cliche that in politics disunity is death. Malcolm Turnbull may have emerged from yesterday’s party room with a result, but there’s no denying at the moment the Federal Coalition is far from unified, and voters have started wondering if indeed it might be fatal for the political career of the Opposition Leader.

What is the public's problem with Malcolm?

Two weeks ago The Punch set out to explain exactly why Kevin Rudd was so wildly popular according opinion polls. This weekend we wanted to find out what it was that has driven the Opposition Leader’s polling figures into the mud.

And we found Mr Turnbull’s biggest problem is the perception he’s lost authority over his troops.

On October 11 Newspoll had the Coalition at 42 per cent on the two party preferred vote, to Labor’s 58 per cent.

When asked to pick between Mr Turnbull and his treasury spokesman Joe Hockey as the better leader of the Coalition Mr Turnbull got 39 per cent, Mr Hockey 31 per cent and a huge 30 per cent were non-committed.

Over at Nielsen the news for Mr Turnbull was worse, with 33 per cent supporting Mr Hockey and just 31 per cent backing the leader.

In Newspoll on October 6th, when asked who would make a better PM, 67 per cent said Kevin Rudd and 18 per cent Mr Turnbull.

Throughout the whole of October a team of Liberals have lined up to publicly kick their leader over the Government’s proposed Emissions Trading Scheme.

War horses such as Wilson Tuckey had have more air time than Mr Turnbull on the matter, and have quite openly undermined his position.

No wonder on October 6 the Member for Wentworth was a little touchy on the 7.30 Report.

All of this has compounded the view Mr Turnbull is not so much a leader, as someone desperately trying to paper over the cracks, and it’s not filling voters with confidence.

The Punch asked 80 people a series of questions about the Opposition Leader to put some meat onto the bones of the polling figures.

Asking what he was doing well elicited a mostly negative response from those people who cold think of an answer other than “nothing.”

Ellen, 45, from Springwood did say: “He is a pleasant man when I met him once.” And Rita, 26 from Castle Hill thought he deserved credit “Surviving while everyone wants to pull him down.”

But many people commented on the uphill battled Mr Turnbull was facing in his own party.

Kate, 26, from Artarmon: “You hear bad things about him in the media.”

David, 36, Kirribilli: “He’s having a tough time.”

Paul, 39, Manly: “He has been trying to talk about debt but no one listens.”

Asked if Mr Turnbull had done anything people were not happy with and the disunity line became even clearer.

Andrew, 40, Epping: “He is not strong enough - he is trying but the party is not behind him.“Liberals are a rabble

Frankie, 40, Eastwood: “Liberals since John Howard too weak - Malcolm can’t fix the party.”

Abbey, 42, Pymble: “Liberals are a rabble.”

Rickey, 54, Pennant Hills: “Idiots keep undermining him.”

Margaret, Hornsby: “His party doesn’t seem to like him.”

Unfortunately for Mr Turnbull the disunity is death truism is a self fulfilling prophecy. The more dis unified the party, the worse the poll results, the more dis unified the party.

Some key findings of our survey, which was conducted on Thursday and Friday last week in Sydney by The Punch team:

What has Malcolm Turnbull been doing well?

29% positive or luke warm
71% negative of couldn’t think of anything good.

What has he done you’re unhappy with?

21% specifically mentioned Liberal MPs undermining him
12% specifically mentioned UteGate

Can you think of three words to describe Malcolm Turnbull?

25% per cent of people used the word “arrogant”.

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    • iansand says:

      07:10am | 19/10/09

      Malcolm does not know how to persuade.  He knows he is right and is dismissive of anyone who will not accept what he knows to be right.  It is not a very attractive personality trait and is not conducive to creating unity.

    • Daphon says:

      07:33am | 19/10/09

      Is it the man who is unpopular or is it the figure who represents the rabble known as the Coalition?

    • John A Neve says:

      07:45am | 19/10/09

      I don’t think there is any thing overly bad about Malcolm Turnball, but there is nothing overly good about him either. In fact, that is his problem.

      There is no clear delineation between Malcolm and Kevin, for that matter there is no clear distinction between the parties they lead.

      Our great country is governed by mediocrity, Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum are now joint rulers. Political correctness has killed individualism, it’s a
      Brave New world.

    • Shane says:

      07:47am | 19/10/09

      Malcom comes across as the guy your Mum made you like at school.

    • Liz says:

      07:52am | 19/10/09

      Funny how people call him arrogant, he has confidence which is often misplaced but then he’s just trying t o do his job.The Liberals day is over, they’re not contenders and have fallen into disarray.Simple.Time for a new dynamic party.

    • Toejam says:

      07:53am | 19/10/09

      iansand, you sure you’re talking about Turnbull and not Rudd?

      Seriously, though, Turnbull is the Liberal Party’s Beazley: totally unelectable, but the party can’t afford to get rid of him.

    • Old Clive says:

      08:12am | 19/10/09

      Tweedle Dee from Tweedle Dum has summed up the situation, Malcolm TurnBULL is certainly not interested in mediocrity, and that is the trouble with for most people, because that is where they live. Turnbull believes in this country and is not interested in popularity polls like the flying intercontinental Nerd.

    • Bruce says:

      08:36am | 19/10/09

      Malcolm Turnbull just does not come across as user friendly. We do not like our politicians too tough, just a bit more “smiley”.

    • Garry says:

      09:02am | 19/10/09

      How could he be poplular when there has been a witch hunt by the media almost day in day out since he became leader of the Opposition. Notice people describe him as arrogant and his party as rabble, words that come out of Labors mouths. Labor use these words to describe him every chance they have on air. It shows the media decide who’s popular and who isn’t. He doesn’t appear arrogant at all agianst Rudd. i’m sure there is disunity in the Labor ranks too, but the media don’t run after Labor looking for cracks in their Party, only whats going on with the Liberals.

    • Old Clive says:

      09:05am | 19/10/09

      Yer we need a new party, let’s go for the grey party, these young ones have caused more stuff ups than we can name, we need people that have been there and done that rather than people who have been to thought training classes and have never done anything practical in their lifetime except talk.

    • Old Clive says:

      09:10am | 19/10/09

      Garry what Ark did you come from?. Saying things like that is going to get you into hot water, it is the truth but people don’t know what truth is these days because there is too much spin for them to wade through.

    • Jan says:

      09:20am | 19/10/09

      Malcolm may not be Mr Popular but the fact that Mr Rudd and his Labor mates (State /Federal) have huge support is a mystery to me. Like the person who keeps getting into a bad realtionship again and again without learning from the past. Australians deserve all that get from the Labor party and have no one to blame but themselves, enjoy the next round of interest rates hikes, fall in exports, increase unemployment, watching the cost of everything go up, poor transport + health etc.

    • R.E.L. says:

      09:23am | 19/10/09

      I’m wondering if you actually asked the people who live in Wentworth what they think? It seems you only ask Westies who wouldn’t know a decent charming man if he slapped them in the face with a used profylactic.
      It seems that everyone who has met him thinks he’s a great guy with ambition.
      It seems everyone who has met Kevin thinks he’s an arrogant A.H.
      So why does the media insist on perpetuating this myth that Malcolm is arrogant and Rudd is just a nerd?

    • Macca says:

      09:24am | 19/10/09

      Turnbull’s rhetoric has, correctly, all been about the debt. Unfortunately, the average Australian doesn’t give a rats a*se about debt when there is a chance they will lose their job in the next 6 months.

      Gillard’s message has been that if you are against the BER you “hate children”. Turnbull’s message should be that Labour “hate children” as their parents will be paying off the debt for the next 20 years for a piece of inferstructure the children can use for about 5.

    • iansand says:

      09:32am | 19/10/09

      Toejam@7:53 I have not met Mr Rudd, and cannot say anything about his personality.

    • Carol P says:

      09:33am | 19/10/09

      Yes Jan, but the media don’t find these issues important they would rather report on the Oppositions Leadership. They are scripting their own soap opera., on behalf of Kevin and his team.

    • June says:

      09:41am | 19/10/09

      I think Malcolm would make a great PM. As for calling him arrogant, Why? He doesn’t appear that to me, Rudd has shown from his time in office that he is the arrogant one of the two, not to mention ego maniac, show pony, self interested nerd. When Rudd appears in one of his door stop interviews, I can’t bear to hear him talk, at least when Turnbull talks I tend to be more interested and he doesn’t sound like he is reading from a script.

    • Glenn T. says:

      10:46am | 19/10/09

      Turnbull should start his own party (he can afford it) and shake off the Liberal Party dinasaours!

    • Chris says:

      11:12am | 19/10/09

      Good on him for getting a lil snappy on the 7:30 report, Kerry Obrien (ex whitlam staffer)  his bias beggars belief.  You only have to campare any inteview he has with Labor to Liberal to see.

    • HelĂ©na says:

      11:31am | 19/10/09

      I think if Malcolm Turnbull was generally given a fair go by the media and not used as cheap copy for lazy journalists, then he would have an improved public perception, how many times do we have to hear about his arrogance or how wealthy he is - is this really any different to Kevin Rudd??

    • Mango says:

      11:37am | 19/10/09

      I think Malcolm’s supposed ‘lack of authority’ over the ‘rabble’ has more to do with the silly rabble than with his leadership ... I would love to see a real Liberal party (small government, libertarian, but with a soft heart) instead of the conservative party apparatchiks who have dominated of late ... Malcolm was my hope for that!

    • Patrick says:

      11:48am | 19/10/09

      Judging by the comments here, once again Malcolm Turnbull’s problems all seem to be the fault of the media. When are you ninnies going to stop making excuses for him and wake up to the reality that the only person responsible for Malcolm Turnbull’s predicaments is Malcolm Turnbull.

      It’s very interesting how the collective Right wing loves to go on about individualism and taking responsibility for ones actions, but at the same time suffers from a seemingly incurable persecution syndrome, always blaming the nasty left wing media whenever they are unpopular.

      They instead expect a free ride from the media, and any negative comment against them is instantly met with accusations of “OMG MEDIA IS LEFTY LIBERAL BIASED!!!11eleventyone! Here’s a thought. The media is reporting the Coalition as a disorganized unruly rable led by an ineffective leader because the Coalition is a disorganized unruly rable led by an ineffective leader.

    • Anita says:

      11:54am | 19/10/09

      The media hang out with the Liberal backbenchers and Tuckey and the like who should resign or retire, to get leaks on Turnbull.
      If they spent more time running around the corridors of the Rudd Government looking for gossip and reported it you would find there is the same backstabbing happening in Labor. It’s just the media are so biased they prefer to report on Turnbull than Rudd. As some one else commented. the media have made a soap opera out of the Liberals, scripted by the journo’s. Turnbull is far more capable of being PM than he is given credit for. Hang in there Turnbull, eventually Rudd will be exposed when the media wake up to the fact there is nothing left for the public to hear or read about Turnbull and start wondering about the ever popular Kevin Rudd. Also a lot of issues Turnbull has been raising over the last 12 months actually ring true.

    • fitter says:

      12:23pm | 19/10/09

      I dont think he’s arrogant, just very succesful financially, not an attractive trait in Australian politics.
      The reason I dont like him is because he rarely discusses policy, or anything of substance, he just sounds attacks the governments policy by using tired cliches, but has no solutions. Its easy to attack, but what does he stand for? Nothing really.

    • Billy says:

      12:33pm | 19/10/09

      How can Turnbull discuss policy’s when all the media want to ask him is about his leadership and his stupid backbenches. It’s not very often he even gets the chance to attack the Governmnet, the moment if you notice he mentions Rudd or the Government he gets cut off usually by the journalists. And then he gets more questions about his leadership no time for him to get any issues out to the public. And fitters comment “very succesful financially, not an attractive trait in Australian Politics”??? this also applies to Rudd, and why is it unattractive?? It shows intelligence and leadership I would have thought. Malcolm ain’t the arrogant dill he is made out be, Kevin Rudd is.

    • iansand says:

      01:57pm | 19/10/09

      fitter@12:23 Yes he is.  My first encounter with young Malcolm was a Belinda Neal moment.  He actually said “Do you know who I am?” when he was prevented from pushing into a queue for a university cafeteria.  He would have been all of 20, and he has not changed for the better.

    • Venise says: says:

      03:26pm | 19/10/09

      Turnbull is a dedicated liar-anyone remember the Godwin Grech affair. He can take three diametrically different points of view on the one question. I saw him do it once on Channel Two news-turned out his minders had fed him the wrong question. Did it worry Malcolm? Not one little bit. He merely switched stories without even taking a breath. Driven by his over-weaning ambition he accepted the poisoned chalice of leading a party composed of cro-magnon era intelligence and pea-sized hearts. A party in permanent alliance with the Nationals, whose sole philosophy is ‘we want everything to go to the farmers’.
      Or socialism for the rurals.

      This, of course, places them-in a strange sort of way-ahead of the Liberals who have absolutely no philosophy at all.

      And people wonder why the man is disliked?

    • Greensborough Growler says:

      05:42pm | 19/10/09

      Turnbull’s popularity turned south during the aftermarth of utegate. He tried to dislodge the PM using a dodgy email. He neither apologised nor showed contrition which are the first steps towards receiving forgiveness for making a terrible misjudgement. He arrogantly brazened it out and people have marked his character down accordingly.

    • Peter H says:

      07:33pm | 19/10/09

      He is his own worst enemy.  Full of his own self, impatient and willing to do and get rid of anyone who stands in his way.
      Not good Prime Ministerial material.

    • Bruce says:

      08:01pm | 19/10/09

      Chris: Agree, Kerry Obrien has got to be the most bias person on television. I have cringingly watched him from time to time over the years, just hoping his bias would get better. It has not. Its the gloating look that gets me, you can see it coming. But then he is a person from an old and different era.

    • Julie says:

      08:25pm | 19/10/09

      When I first heard Malcolm talk in parliament, I thought he wasn’t too bad. But since he has been in opposition, he has most probably shown his true colours. He comes across as an arrogant,  know it all person, so up himself who is totally inconsistent in his arguments and totally lacks judgment and shows no empathy. Yes he can give a speech but in some of his speeches the tone is one of arrogant,nasty,  phony and “I know it all and I can never be wrong”
      God forbid if he were ever to be Pm as I feel he would rule only for the big end of town.

    • Michael says:

      09:44am | 20/10/09

      People don’t like what they see. And the more they see…

    • Debbie says:

      02:42am | 27/10/09

      You can shove people out of the way to get to the top to seek power and wealth in a ruthless and bullying manner and will get rid of anyone who stands in his way.
      It’s not the fact that he is wealthy, but how he went about it.
      He’s very good at weaving stories which are more fiction than fact, yet people will believe it.  He’s very good at presenting a false persona to get what he wants in a charismic manner.
      Iansand yes, he comes across as having a huge Ego. Full of his own self importance.
      I find he’s very opportunistic and very self absorbed.
      He shows no loyalty or dedication with so many career changes.
      Peter that’s just how I see him.

    • Anna says:

      10:49am | 27/10/09

      Debbie, your description of Kevin Rudd is spot on!

    • open your eyes says:

      02:47pm | 01/02/10

      Malcolm is still too busy working for the interests of Goldman Sachs to work for the interests of Australians.

 

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