David Campbell has a lesser right to privacy than an ordinary citizen, for a number of reasons.

If you look carefully you can see his political career leaving to the left

The first is that as a politician his entire existence is underwritten by the taxpaying public – his salary, his car, his living arrangements, his ability to travel, all of it is fully or partially funded by the public, and to an extent which massively eclipses the average wage earner. The second is that as a politician he wields enormous and direct power over the way we live our lives, even own financial status. 

The third is that as a politician he has chosen to project an image of himself in order to win votes – the happily married father of two, who has used his wife and children as a visual backdrop for his campaigns for local and state government. The fourth is that he is part of a government which has been distracted, to say the least, by a series of scandals in which poor decisions, corrupt conduct and even criminal conduct have prevented a minister or member from doing his job.

Combined, these four things mean that the public is entitled to know more about a politician such as David Campbell than they are a private citizen.

He is kidding himself if he thinks this should not have been the case. If he thinks it is unfair, he should have chosen a different career, as anyone who enters politics does so in the knowledge that they will be subject to a higher level of scrutiny than a private individual.

And if they are part of a government which has been marred by scandal they should know that it is incumbent upon them to be even more careful as to how they conduct themselves.

If people have a right to know that the man who wanted to become prime minister had enjoyed a drunken night at a New York strip club, then the people of NSW have the right to know that their Transport Minister, a man who depicts himself as a solid citizen who is wholly focussed on service delivery, is in reality massively distracted by living a highly complicated double life.

It will probably sound disingenuous but I feel sympathy and pity for Campbell; his private life has been rendered a mess by his inability to reconcile his sexuality, and he has paid an enormous price as what he did is in no way corrupt or criminal.

But I still think people have every right to know about it, especially when he is part of a government that has lurched from one distraction to the next, with so many of its members unable to stop their private lives from impinging on their ability to execute their public responsibilities.

And you can dismiss the line that Campbell is only receiving attention because this story involves his being gay. If he’d been photographed or filmed leaving a brothel he would be on the front page too. If anything the coverage would probably have been harsher, as today, many reasonable-minded people are expressing genuine sympathy for Campbell at having lived a double life as a married gay bloke.

There’s also a ludicrous post-facto assessment going around today of David Campbell’s performance as a minister. It might be kind, but it is also crap. David Campbell wasn’t a good minister – he was a hopeless minister.

He was responsible for making sure that the people of Sydney and NSW could get from A to B comfortably and reliably, be it by train, car or bus. They often did not. The most spectacular recent example was the routine accident last month on the F3, the main artery north from Sydney to the Central Coast, which left motorists paralysed for 12 hours, with the minister refusing to front up at all to explain himself to the public during the day.

He was also responsible for the failed metro rail project, the cost of which blew out from $2 billion to $7 billion, forcing the government to recoup the losses with new taxes and cuts to other services.
Finally I’d also take issue with those people who have labelled the Channel Seven reporter Adam Walters a hypocrite for doing the story when he has been in an on-again, off-again relationship with former Health Minister Reba Meagher.

I am only acquainted professionally with both Walters and Meagher and do not regard them as friends, so I’m not going into bat for them out of anything personal. But it is worth pointing out that their relationship was subjected to massive scrutiny with a whole stack of news stories, so what Walters did on Channel Seven last night is no different to the attention he and Meagher have faced. Type their names into Google and take your pick from the umpteen yarns written about their relationship.

David Campbell knew when he entered politics that public life means you live your life in public with a higher degree of scrutiny than the ordinary man on the street. If he did not want to sign on for that he should have got a job in a bank, a library or a caryard, rather than expecting us all to pay for his existence, cop every bad policy decision he ever made, and uncritically accept a vision of himself which was all about winning votes.

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    • Anthony says:

      11:00am | 21/05/10

      Doctors are paid by the government, they project an image yet they would still work if they went to a gay sex bar. So would a public servent. Doctors and public servents deduct travel, cars and flights. Being a journalist at channel seven must be a shitty job.

    • alex says:

      12:16pm | 21/05/10

      Dont’ laugh Anthony, the way our media is heading they will be outing gay doctors just to get the sensationalist headlines soon. There is no gutter too deep for our press anymore.

    • Julie says:

      12:45pm | 21/05/10

      I agree. I for one will be boycotting channel 7 as a result of this. How about sparing a thought for his family. I could understand if something was done in the background and he resigned as minister for transport, but there was no reason for this to be made public and humiliate him and his family like this. I hope that they all pull through this and don’t do anything drastic.

    • Marilyn says:

      01:45pm | 21/05/10

      But doctors are not elected by the people on a campaign of trust and honesty and bring on the happy family man. I agree what anyone does in their private lives is their business but please dont be a hypocrite and once elected any politician knows he/she is going to be under very close scrutiny 24/7 dont like it dont stand in the first place.  So dont shoot the messengers out there in the media they are only doing what they are paid to do and guess what is going to be the highest rating program on TV tonight

    • jase says:

      01:56pm | 21/05/10

      As demonstrated by the disgraceful behaviour of the so-called ‘press’ viz a viz Joe Hockey’s appearance at the Press Club, journalists are demanded to be accorded the same status as politicians, ie: no longer reporting the news, but (laughably) thinking themselves as an integral part of the story. Having forfeited their impartiality and the true calling of their craft, journalists should now expect the same scrutiny they apply to others. I look forward to the bleats of indignation when journalist’s private lives are exposed for all to see.
      Your argument is specious clap-trap David. A true journalist would have nailed Campbell fore his performance of his public duties. What happened here is not journalism, it is not in the public interest and it is not fair to Campbell.

    • Frustrated says:

      02:22pm | 21/05/10

      Thank god for Marilyn’s sanity there.
      Journalists and the media are not elected officials or public servents, and yet no one seems to matter how much they get criticised or labelled sensationalist.
      To all the critics, guess what, you might act all high and mighty, but you still read/watched the media to find out about this - and you paid for it one way or another. Then you have used the media forum once again to criticise the journalists and columnists doing their job.
      At the end of the day, people need to know about it when a polician goes out and campaigns himself as a straight family man, holding up all the values of a certain group of people. If he had campaigned as gay it wouldn’t be a problem.
      It no doubt has hurt his family, but maybe he should have thought about it first.
      Just like maybe some readers should think about what they are doing before they shoot the messanger.

    • Former channel 7 viewer says:

      02:25pm | 21/05/10

      I agree re shitty job of being journalist at channel 7. Only a couple of months ago Channe 7 journalist was having a go at Mike Rann for supposedly having had a hetersexual relationship when he was a single man.

    • Daniel says:

      03:56pm | 21/05/10

      You elect him to do a job, not on his ability to procreate or how many kids he has in tow. If that is how you choose to vote, more fool you.

      Go back to writing news articles on Twitter and Facebook updates.

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      04:17pm | 21/05/10

      I think Dave is right, if you are in the public spotlight you are open to more scrutiny. But in the way it was done to David Campbell by channel seven was sickening, I really feel for the guy. He’s had a rough ride so they send out the PI’s to get any dirt they can. What got amounts to nothing but spiteful vindictive disrespect. It wasn’t news it was lowlife gutter reporting.

    • Pip says:

      04:34pm | 21/05/10

      Channel 7 is a waste of space.  They spent so much time trying to get rid of SA Premier Mike Rann with their stalker-girl beat-up in cahoots with The Advertiser and online AdelaideNow, never even hinting that both she and her stalker boys appear to be not the full bottle.  Firstly, “the public” know nothing about Mr. Campbell’s marriage and nor should they.  He hasn’t campaigned on the ubiquitous “family values” .  Seems to me this article/beat up is timed perfectly to distract us from the woeful performance of the Budget Replies.  Lastly, Mr. Campbell has broken no law, he did not have a driver, and politicians have 24 hours in a day, not all of which are “massively funded by taxpayers”.  Lastly, there are many famous examples of “odd” couples living happily reconciled together.  Rubbish, David.

    • Mick says:

      06:40pm | 21/05/10

      You all miss the point, if the allegations are true, we all paid for the vehicle that Mr CAMPBELL drove to and from the establishment. I’m not happy about that !!! It has nothing to do with his sexuality or going to a gay sex bar but it has a lot to do with his integrity as a soacial leader…

    • madeleine Binney says:

      08:21pm | 21/05/10

      I couldnt agree more.This is absolutely disgusting!
      When I first saw and heard of this story I felt sick to my stomach and had the most overwhelming feeling of dissapointment and sadness for this guy, reagrdless of what he does.
      My immediate concern is of David Campbell and what something like this could do to him or his family.
      There is no justification to this complete and utter invasion of privacy.
      Shame on you.


      As far as Im concerned, the only people who’s sexuality should be of concern to anyone are phedophiles, rapists and murderers.

    • Dingo says:

      08:43pm | 21/05/10

      The point is channel 7’s so called journalists have completely ignored the incompetence of David Campbell in his portfolio for years, which has significant ramifications for the people of NSW and our quality of life.

      Now they are pursuing an issue which is not about the job he is (not) doing and in the process they are savaging his wife who is fighting cancer and his children who are already dealing with so much. Disgusting conduct, but no worse than the rest of the MSM.

      So, we now have pathetically incompetent politicians keeping their noses in the trough thanks to our pathetically incompetent journalist. Thank goodness for social media - it may just save democracy.

    • Dommy says:

      08:59pm | 21/05/10

      Please don’t compare a doctor to a labor minister, that is just so wrong unfair to doctors.

    • Michael says:

      07:03am | 22/05/10

      i agree totally Anthony!!! You make a very valid point. They are all paid by government bodies so why are they not scrutinised as well??? Marilyn below your argument is hysterical. You think that politicians should be under more scrutiny than your local doctor who has access to all your body parts whilst you are in the surgery??? We elect out doctors on the same level, the only difference is we do not enter a booth we enter their surgeries. You should be more worried about the person who has access to every thing about you and your family than somebody who you elect from afar…

      Frustrated your comments are even more stupid!! If that story had not come out, do you really think you would have been thinking about David’s sex life??? Yes it gains interest, but the media and so called journalist who break theses stories should stop and think and filter themselves!! Aren’t journos the ones who also tried to bring down Kyle Sandiland’s for not filtering himself??? Journalist have a responsibility too… Then again with all the sensationalised stuff around now, you have to be stupid to really believe any of it..

    • David Elliott says:

      02:38pm | 23/05/10

      Was the camera crew just passing by, or was it a deliberate “stake out”?

    • Brett L says:

      06:39pm | 23/05/10

      Ye’h but Doctors don’t make promises on a whim. Doctors make promises on scientific fact, and almost er on the negative.

    • Chris says:

      09:59pm | 23/05/10

      Campbell had been keeping a deep secret for 25 years, the duration of his public life as Mayor, electorate officer, MP and Minister. He had been keeping this deep secret from his wife and family, his constituents, his colleagues and his bosses.
      He was a blackmail target!
      I do not care about his behaviour, but the fact that he felt the need to deny his behaviour and keep it secret made him vulnerable to all sorts of pressure, overt or subtle.
      How will we ever know which of the thousands of decisions he made and which of the millions of dollars of public money he was responsible for were made or disbursed under such duress, and the need to keep his secret?

    • acker says:

      11:02am | 21/05/10

      Penbo you don’t think V for Vendetta is possibly a big reason in this ?
      Your opposition paper the SMH is already mentioning how it was Reba Meagher’s boyfreind Adam Walters who broke this story ...http://www.smh.com.au/national/the-diary/journo-in-new-car-scandal-20100520-vq0n.html

      I think he was also Morris Iemma’s media advisor

      The governor or Prime Minister should step in and dissolve the NSW parliment now today

    • Daniel says:

      12:35pm | 21/05/10

      I couldn’t agree more.

    • Left, Right, Out by Both of U. says:

      02:14pm | 21/05/10

      Actually there is a little known, acknowledged, or talked about section in our Constitution, federal application only i think, sadly.

      Also can’t remember whether it applies to MHR’s, Senators or both, but the gist of it, was that at any time, after election you could present a petition, with enough signatures on it, to the Governor or G/G & they were compelled to sack, said Polly, immediately.

      Would be nice wouldn’t it?

      Any lawyers online available to set us straight on this one?

      An Aussie “tea party” movement might be nice around now too?

      Possible, name suggestions anybody?

      “Waltzing Matilda Movement” maybe “Jolly Jumbuck Poachers” perhaps?

      regards the former snag & swinging voter

      BTW, Couldn’t personally care if he was a sheep shagger, but surely the question is about pretending to be straight, (to impress voters) while leading a double life.

    • George H says:

      02:18pm | 21/05/10

      Mate spot on this stinks of nothing but revenge! Meagher’s payback! I’m a private investigator, the footage has been shot out of a van - god only knows how long they followed him for. I can also tell you that those in the near 60 age group didn’t have the luxury of not getting married and ‘coming out’ wasn’t even a phrase! Sad very sad! And may I suggest that David Campbell’s sexuality has been a KNOWN UNKNOWN for many years!

    • acker says:

      06:51pm | 21/05/10

      @George H…very true I think we are witnessing Labor still pulling itself apart after the Power assets sell off plan under Iemma & Costa; Campbell is just the latest victim of this vicious NSW Labor civil war RIP Meagher, Kelly, DelaBosca, Iemma, Rees, Costa, etc.

    • George H says:

      09:16pm | 22/05/10

      @acker…a vicious, bloody internal war, that really will have only losers! I wonder how many more of their own they’ll sacrifice before the libs take over? Grotty, selfish behaviour, only putting their energy into undermining each other- meanwhile the State continues to disintegrate, with more and more government entities struggling to manage with next to no money.Adam Walters could have piled on the criticism about Mr Campbell’s performance as Minister - but clearly he was more interested in assassinating Mr Campbell.  Now in the flurry of stories that have surfaced, it was confirmed that Mr Campbell’s sexuality was an ‘open secret’. What annoys me the most is now there are two boy’s in their 20’s living in a relatively small town - with their father on the front pages of all the newspapers for all the wrong reasons!

    • Gong Activist says:

      10:15pm | 23/05/10

      I have a letter that states that the govenor “signs [whatever a Minister hands over] or resigns”.  Don’t think any Minister will give her a paper to sign like you suggest.  We wish.

    • Willy K says:

      11:04am | 21/05/10

      Campbell admits it when confronted with the facts. 

      Rudd denies all knowledge when confronted with the facts.

      What was Rudd hiding at Scores?  I think the true story is yet to unfold.

    • erbert says:

      11:31am | 21/05/10

      Get over it.

    • Xela says:

      11:33am | 21/05/10

      Let’s all care about something important . Just for a change.

    • Winston says:

      11:51am | 21/05/10

      Exactly.  Why was there an almighty cover up over the Scores Affair?

      Was it just a strip club?

      Has anyone also thought about the risks that he was subjecting his wife to with this random gay group sex lifestyle?  I agree each to their own but it is like russian roulette… and to have a partner beggars belief.

    • DC says:

      03:30pm | 21/05/10

      Are you for real?  I think you need to move on - build a bridge as they say.  Either that, or get the **** over it.

    • DC says:

      04:03pm | 21/05/10

      @Willy K:

      At the time Rudds visit to a strip club was made public, Tony Abbott was asked if he (Abbott) had ever been to a strip club.

      Tony Abbott refused to answer.

      What was he hiding?  Ultimately, who cares.

      As Bob Brown said at the time:  “Four years ago Kevin Rudd got drunk and took himself into a strip club.  Four years ago John Howard, sober, took Australia into the Iraq war.  I think the electorate can judge which one did the more harm.”

    • Tim says:

      11:05am | 21/05/10

      TL;DR summary: “This is the way it is, so this is the way it should be. The public gets to choose what’s in its interest.”

    • PHFM says:

      01:46pm | 21/05/10

      I have just cancelled my subscription to the DT and also lodged a complaint with the ACMA on the gutter tactics of Ch7 and also the DT.
      I believe that all this is in BAD taste and its just payback.
      You journos should be ashemed of yourself and you shouyld go get a day job instead of bringing down a government.You are a bunch of hypocrites

    • kristinmoore2 says:

      11:06am | 21/05/10

      One point of view with perhaps some relevance regarding the taxpayer funding and also that he was not a great minister - however you have made the same fundamental mistaken leap of logic that so many others are making, including Adam Walters

      ‘the happily married father of two, who has used his wife and children as a visual backdrop for his campaigns for local and state government’  Is not necessarily incompatible with being gay, bisexual, confused, conflicted or whatever the poor man is.

      Newsflash - gay and bisexual people can be family people, people conflicted about their sexuality can also still love their wife and children. It happens, it has happened and it will happen. He may well have had a very happy marriage - whether or not his wife knew of his bisexuality or latent or even active homosexuality.

      Families take many forms - the only essential is love, and there is no evidence that the Campbell family did not have this.

    • Andy says:

      11:24am | 21/05/10

      If his wife knew about it then your argument has validity, if he was doing this behind his wife’s back then he’s a pig who deserves what he gets.

    • Peta says:

      11:53am | 21/05/10

      “If his wife knew about it then your argument has validity, if he was doing this behind his wife’s back then he’s a pig who deserves what he gets.”

      But please explain to me what this has to do with being an MP? There are people with poor personalities all over the world that are great at their job.

      This story is nothing more than people trying to justify their addiction to gossip and judgement, while ruining someone’s career in the meantime.

      Pathetic.

    • Peter says:

      12:19pm | 21/05/10

      Andy, 80% of Australian men watch porn on the internet (pretty likely you do it too); how many of their wives and children know about it? Well, the privacy function in any modern browser gets to good use these days. Just avoid the mirror when you go into the bathroom, you might feel better about yourself…

    • gerwin says:

      12:29pm | 21/05/10

      I am sure Channel 7 wasn’t too hard on Hockey about his troubles with the figures. Unfortunately, the journos that tend to focus on real issues tend not get employed at the commercials. They need the ones that can be used by ‘A Current Affair’. Sad that there are so many people that actually watch it.

    • Andy says:

      12:32pm | 21/05/10

      What it has to do with him being an MP is if he is the kind of person who can lie to his family for 20 years about something so fundamental as his sexuality (as has been revealed by the Premier today) then he is not the kind of person I want running the state. It is nothing to do with homosexuality or with him being paid from the public purse as others have claimed, it is the fact that one of the people who frames our laws and runs our state is capable of lying on such a massive scale to those he supposedly loves.

      If he was an openly gay or bisexual man in an understanding relationship with a wife who knew the full facts then I would support him wholeheartedly.

      I must admit though, that calling him a “pig who deserves what he gets” is not really fair, I shouldn’t have said that.

    • Andy says:

      12:53pm | 21/05/10

      Peter, I do see your point, but I suggest you ask your significant other if they see a difference between lying about having a quiet “tug” in the computer room and lying about having sex with someone else.

    • AP says:

      08:54pm | 21/05/10

      Your comment: I don’t think him being gay is the issue. The issue is he used a tax payer funded car to visit these places. Also as ex-Police Minister, he was obviously open to bribes.  If someone knew, what would stop them saying “do this, or I’ll out you” and so he’d do it. He was a useless Minister and should have been sacked for the F3 thing. And if my husband was screwing around for 25 years, men or women, I think I’d have an idea. Some women choose not to see it.

    • Bessie says:

      12:04pm | 23/05/10

      I saw a lovely Photo of this man and his wife in another Paper and they look like they are a lovely couple. Why don’t they leave this good man alone I don’t see what it has to do with the general Public or Politics for that matter.

    • T.Chong says:

      11:11am | 21/05/10

      Strange homophobia that equates being gay without the ability to be a lovinfg family , partner or “solid citizen”
      Bag him for being a second rate minister.
      As for the final point about the unwarranted unfair scrutiny of Meagher and Walters, thats saying this equally unjust attack some how is justified.
      Two wrongs make a right?

    • Fran says:

      11:32am | 21/05/10

      T.Chong
      I believe the issue was that he kept it hidden from his family and hence the deception. Its not saying that it wrong but you might think of telling you wife and kids that you are a raving homosexual. Im not sure what people agreement is with there partners but generally speaking most people have one partner at a time, it generally isnt good for your family to shag anything or anyone that moves.

      Apparently he was a very good minister and will be missed by the party.
      I think the use of the ministrial car may be a problem.

      But what wrong will pollie hiring protitutes, visting strip bars, gay bars.

    • Tails says:

      12:49pm | 21/05/10

      He’s a liar Chongy. He lied to his wife before God. If he can do that, who knows what sort of other lies he concocted throughout his career.
      You can’t bag one pollie one day and then back one up the next.
      As Mr Campbell has just found out, you can’t have it both ways.

    • antiperspirant says:

      01:44pm | 21/05/10

      Oh of course they can have it both ways Tails they are Labor fanbois.

      How anyone can defend any of these idiots in NSW Labor is beyond. Their arrogance is breathtaking like the double standards here.

      Abbott confesses to lying and is crucified by Chong pers and the rest. Tanner lies about facts in front of him, Campbell lives a lie and Rudd told umpteen of them in the last few years but all of that is ok.

      It won’t change. Just point out the hypocrites as they pop up. It is sort of mildly amusing, like picking a scab.

    • Andy says:

      11:19am | 21/05/10

      Channel 7 may be sleazy and opportunistic in attacking Campbell like this but if he was a strong enough person to be setting an example as an openly gay man in the Government instead of pretending to be a devoted heterosexual monogamous family man he would probably be applauded for going to that club, as it is he has potentially ruined his career.

      It’s not the act that has caused him the trouble he is in, it’s the duplicity and hypocrisy.

      I am torn between feeling sorry for him for what he is about to go through and being thoroughly disgusted by the way he has been doing his job of late.

    • Alex says:

      12:11pm | 21/05/10

      Hey Andy, he gets to be what he wants to be. It is a free country. He doesn’t have to answer to you, he just has to do his job. He has a right to privacy.

    • Bruce says:

      12:46pm | 21/05/10

      Andy: Agree with your comments. I really do not care about what he does in his private life. However, we should be focusing on his competence in his job and the use of a government vehicle to pursue his “outside” interests. I guess the media moral police will focus on the more sleezier side of this story.

    • PHFM says:

      01:51pm | 21/05/10

      Hey Andy,what would you do if you had Ch7 and TT on your front door about your private life.What would you doo….wake up will you

    • Matt says:

      07:48pm | 21/05/10

      Andy, i agree with your sentiments and i think those criticising are missing the point. Politicians ‘voted’ in by constituents who buy into what they stand for, what they intend to do for their electorate and, sometimes most importantly, the values that they share. this has nothing to do with his sexuality and everything to do with the voters right to know the true character of the person they elected into office. I know many people, me included, who now question his ability to make decisions given he has been willing to lie and compromise his character to his wife and public. i felt the same about Della Bosca when he too was exposed

    • SJ says:

      07:59pm | 21/05/10

      Andy I am not sure you understand how difficult it would be for a man of his generation being openly gay in Wollongong.

    • The Badger says:

      11:23am | 21/05/10

      Openly gay individuals would really struggle to win an election in Australia. This is why sexually conflicted politicians tend to do their “private” business in the shadows.
      People in the sanctity of the voting box do not need to feel pressured to be politically correct.
      About the only party where it’s OK to be gay is the Greens.

    • Andy says:

      11:36am | 21/05/10

      What about Penny Wong, she is gay isn’t she?

    • The Badger says:

      11:45am | 21/05/10

      and your point is?

    • Jacquie says:

      11:53am | 21/05/10

      Your point is exactly what a lot of people are missing.  It would be extremely difficult for an openly gay high profile minister (with some exceptions… there always are, but they tend to prove the rule) to win an election. 

      Imagine you are an aspiring politician - most try to bland themselves up as an average person with the loving (hetero) family, because that is what a majority of the public expect to see - it’s the safe bet for electability. I’m sure there are a lot of troubled heterosexual marriages that put up a front for the sake of one partners’ political career.

      Just look at the criticism Julia Gillard has received in the past because she is childless? No wonder aspiring politicians campaign with the spouse and kids in tow. Because elections are all about working families, and family values, don’t you know? What results is governments full of people who don’t represent the full gamut of society.

      I would love the day to come where queer, single, disabled, every marginalised group doesn’t have to worry about not fitting this narrow stereotype of what is electable.  We get some notable exceptions here and there, just wish there were some more.

    • Jacquie says:

      11:59am | 21/05/10

      Andy,

      She’s also a Senator… election to the Senate is a bit different to the personal politics of the House of Reps.  But this is why you see more diversity in the Senate.

    • Andy says:

      12:13pm | 21/05/10

      My point is simply that an openly gay person in Australia can indeed win an election and even become a cabinet minister in the Federal Government.

    • Phil says:

      04:10pm | 21/05/10

      Jacquie. Isnt that what a former premier did

    • Matt says:

      07:54pm | 21/05/10

      Jacquie,let’s not be naive here, he didn’t lead a secretely gay life for fear of his political career. he was married and had 2 kids so it goes far beyond that. however i do agree that being gay and entering politics would be daunting given so many prejudiced people still exist and will base their vote on things other than a persons ability to lead effectively and ethically and most importantly do a good job.

    • Phil says:

      09:27am | 22/05/10

      I would hope that any politician who frequented the equivalent of a swingers group would resign or not run to start with. The fact that he is gay has little to do with it. Gay or straight, there is an integrity issue.

    • shabangabang says:

      11:29am | 21/05/10

      The lesson I have learned out of this is that it is ok to follow and film people without their knowledge and consent, so long as you pass it off as journalism.
      What the hell do you guys(and gals) have going through your heads that makes you feel immune to the law?

    • Beagle says:

      11:49am | 21/05/10

      It is OK to follow and film people, unless they are the police. 
      In which case, your camera will be confiscated (you may be assaulted by the police when they take your camera) and you will be liable for criminal charges.
      Everyone else is fair game.

    • shabangabang says:

      12:02pm | 21/05/10

      @Beagle,
      Tell that to the family of the woman in Sydney recently that was watched, followed, and then murdered on her doorstep. I guess that was fair game too? The relevance being they lost a family member, David Campbell’s family has been stripped bare for all to read about.
      Does it also mean people can go to a playground and film children? Are they fair game?
      Can you film people in a public pool changing area? Are they fair game? There is no excuse for violating privacy, nor any excuse to film, photograph, tape or record people without their consent.

    • Noguaranteeofsanity says:

      02:52pm | 21/05/10

      Actually its perfectly legal shabangabang, while there are some legal requirements and consent is normally required when filming or photographing someone for use commercially, news media are exempt from such requirements.  While if acting privately, it is only a crime if the material is deemed to be “indecent”.  There is no law in Australia that requires a person’s consent before they are caught on film or video whilst in public, otherwise all those surveillance and security cameras you see in use, would be illegal.

      Still, I agree its rather grubby journalism.

    • Mickey says:

      03:00pm | 21/05/10

      Yeah good point. If the guy with the camera secretly filming out of a van (how seedy is that anyways?) if he wasn’t a journo, he could probably be had for stalking!

    • Clem says:

      11:29am | 21/05/10

      I bet you anything Reba Meagher gave Adam Walters the tip-off about this story. I bet there is plenty known in the media about which politicians have visited which sleazy establishments by the media, but the choice to air this sort of stuff is determined by other circumstances, in this case, revenge. I find it hard to believe that reporters would feel duty-bound to expose these salacious and personal stories every time they became aware of them. In fact, isn’t it an old convention that an MP’s personal life is always off limits? Seems like the modern breed of journalist doesn’t have such restraints standing in the way of a good story.

      So Penbo, I don’t find your sympathy and pity disingenuous, you’ve proved in your past writings you’re quite the humanist, but I find your defence of the media in this instance half-hearted and lame.

    • acker says:

      11:30am | 21/05/10

      Nice rant about Adam Walters and Reba Meagher but surely as a journalist you can’t deny that is a story within this story in itself. Press Advisor of former premier Morris Iemma breaks sex story on David Campbell that is of public interest too.. Anyway this rabble parliment should be disolved right now !

    • thatmosis says:

      11:30am | 21/05/10

      kristeenmoore you have missed the point. he held himself up to the public as a family man therefore by definition “not Gay” and used his family in his election campaigns to that end thereby lieing to the public from day one. Add to this his abismal record as a Minister and it was about time if not almost too late that he was kicked out. im sure his superannuation will be of some comfort to him though??????

    • Not Impressed says:

      02:15pm | 21/05/10

      That’s rubbish. “Family man” and “gay” are not mutually exclusive concepts, have you never heard of same-sex parents? You assume, also, that his wife wasn’t aware of his behaviour and accepting of it. Not all people have monogomous relationships.

      He may indeed have been an abysmal Minister, but that is an entirely seperate issue, and in no way justifies going on a witch hunt into his personal life to get him kicked out.,

    • Jackie says:

      11:32am | 21/05/10

      I disagree with this article.  Are you guys for real?  I don’t think it is right to deliberately out someone as gay just because they are a politician.  Regardless of how good or bad they are, unless what they are doing is a breach of duty in some way then it is unnecessary and inappropriate and not only that but the public would rather NOT know!  Total bottom feeders channel seven!

    • Alex says:

      11:37am | 21/05/10

      Jackie you are completely correct, this ISN"T a story without the snickering ‘Look he is gay!’ angle. We have thousands of public servants using tax payer vehicles to go to clubs, pubs and restaurants every single day. The difference here is this one happended to be gay. Our media are homophobic and the only ones that don’t understand that are them.

    • Matt says:

      03:17pm | 21/05/10

      Unfortunately Alex, a great deal more than the media is homophobic in our little society.  This whole affair demonstrates it in spades.

    • Alex says:

      11:34am | 21/05/10

      David Penberthy, you need to address whether you are homophobic. So does Channel 7. Let’s get to the real point here, the fact that a tax payer funded car was used was just a lame excuse to put some semblance of legitimacy to a sensationalist story. We have hundreds of politicians and public servants who use their vehicles to visit restaurants, pubs, bars, clubs, you name it. They do this every day. The ONLY difference here was that this was a gay establishment. Therefore, this entire story hangs on the ‘Oh look, he’s gay’ angle that sells newspapers and gets viewers. David, jounalists are already ranked as low as used car dealers in polls, and your pathetic justification of this story only proves that car dealers should feel agrived that they are compred to Australia’s media. Is there any chance you can return to the UK where you learned this tabloid rubbish?

    • BTS says:

      11:52am | 21/05/10

      Makes you wonder why he felt he had to justify it to the world?  To try and convince everyone else it was the right thing to do is an interesting psychological statement.  Any affiliation with Channel Seven, Penbo?

    • Andrew D says:

      12:12pm | 21/05/10

      Alex- while completely supporting you and agreeing that there is an enormous problem of an underlying implicature of ‘being gay is wrong’ in every bit of this whole saga - from all the journo’s pieces in every paper through to KK’s press conference -  i think three things will emerge here.
      1. He willingly resigned and until we actually know why he did we are all making a version up. My 2 cents is the Labour Machine probably cut and run to avoid fall out which is such a disgrace especially after introducing a relationship register last week (small step in equal rights but a step)
      2. People do not know how to discuss this issue of life choices without crossing the line of unintentionally being derogatory to what is simply a sexual act regardless who it is shared with
      3. he was hopeless as a minister as the article illustrates

      Looking for homophobia (or name calling) when it is actually D Campbell lying and not fessing up to his lifechoices for fear of not earning a living that is the problem, will only keep a historical divide active.

      As i said, my 2 cents in a debate that won’t be solved here.

    • alex says:

      01:13pm | 21/05/10

      Agree he is a hopeless Minister, the entire NSW government should resign they are so bad. It just irks me how low our media are, and how they continue to crawl deeper into the gutter. That Penberthy had the hide to even try to justify this story angle is pathetic.

    • Chris says:

      01:52pm | 21/05/10

      It has nothing to do with homosexuality. nothing whatsoever.  The minister lied and lied deliberately to his constituents.  How can you believe anything Mr campbell says?  Would it have made any difference to you if he was caught with a bunch of hookers?  It would not to me.  You are not from some gay activist camp by any chance Alex pushing a nonexistent agenda?

    • David says:

      04:48pm | 21/05/10

      I might add Alex that politicians are right down there at the bottom of the list with journos’ and used car salesmen. There is a reason why those people are down at the bottom. My appologies to used car salesmen, I’m sure there are some out there who do the right thing.

    • Jane says:

      11:34am | 21/05/10

      The ‘right to know’ is a boring and tired argument trotted out by ratings driven media to out-win and out-do each other and to justify muck-raking stories such as this. I honestly believe that Campbell, as have many middle-aged men and women, struggled on daily basis with their sexuality. And yes you claim he has lived on the public purse but suggest he has deliberately ‘projected two images’ simply to win votes is shallow at best. David Campbell did what our society 30 years ago expected - get married, have kids and rise through the ranks at work. Sure, put any person elected to public life under the mircoscope for their ability to deliver on the job but everyone has equal RIGHTS to deal private matters privately.

    • Emma says:

      11:34am | 21/05/10

      The issue is that he may have been at this place when the 12 hr tunnel debacle went down. As NSW transport minister this is not acceptable.  No one cares what he does in his own time.

    • Alex says:

      12:07pm | 21/05/10

      Emma, what is ‘‘may have been’‘? Do you know whether he was there? No? then what exactly is the point of your comment?

    • DC says:

      03:47pm | 21/05/10

      Or, he may have been at McDonalds when that “12 hr tunnel debacle” went down.  Maybe he was stuck on the loo for all that time - he is a big fellow.  Or he may have been at his wifes bedside for all I - and you - know.  Did you expect the minister to rip off his shirt to reveal a superhero costume underneath and singlehandedly clear the tunnel?

    • Barry says:

      11:36am | 21/05/10

      It’s sad that society dictates such out of date and unrealistic morals on people. This man and alot of other men have been forced into a double life fearing they will be smeared if anyone finds out who they really are, all because of their sexuality. No one here knows his full story. Alot of people are attracted to both sex’s but it isn’t accepted in the mainstream, I think alot of people would be surprised at how mainstream it really is. His wife as T. Chong says may well have known about it, it’s just sad that people in 2010 are still treating it as a reason to demonise the man because of his sexual orientation. Unfortunately in 2010 it is more acceptable to have a photo of a wife and children on your Xmas cards.

    • Jane says:

      12:00pm | 21/05/10

      Exactly! No-one apart from David Campbell and his family knows the exact circumstances, so we have no right to judge.

      Also there is no automatic right to know - people have a right to a private life, and if they are doing nothing illegal who are we to be moralistic about it?

    • BTS says:

      11:39am | 21/05/10

      Anything can be justified if you say it over and over enough times to convince yourself.

      Politicians, like footballers, should be entitled to a private life - you are.

    • Margaret says:

      11:49am | 21/05/10

      What about his children and his wife.

      For that alone he should have been given the privacy.  Sacked yes or forced to resign yes, but your reasoning shows an almost sociopathic tendency to be so cruel to the others that this will cause damage to.

    • Andy says:

      12:16pm | 21/05/10

      It certainly would have been “sporting” of Channel 7 to at least tell him before hand what they were about to release so he could inform his family himself. But journalism these days is not a sport, it’s a war.

    • Abby says:

      11:51am | 21/05/10

      Penbo - don’t you think that the driving a Ministerial car is a bit of a lame reason for Channel Seven? Did you ever consider breaking this story on this website or when you were at the Telegraph?

    • AJ says:

      11:52am | 21/05/10

      I disagree with this article.

      I find it hard to believe that there are no other Ministers or other people whose “existence is underwritten by the taxpaying public” and who also use their company cars for similar “personal” activities (as permitted by the guidelines governing the use of their company cars).  The only reason this story has become such a media sensation is because the Minister frequented a “gay” venue and is therefore gay, bi-sexual or falls somewhere else on the spectrum of sexuality.

      Obviously the Minister has disrespected his family enormously (provided they didn’t know about his activities), but I don’t think that is reason to call “open season” on his personal life and activities in the media. 

      IF the Minister had publicly campaigned against equal rights for gays and lesbians, then there may be an argument for “outing” him (although I personally don’t think outing should ever be condoned), but the Minister’s only “wrong” was a personal one in respect of his family and (on the information provided) has little bearing on his job performance. 

      The Minister should be judged openly and harsly on his professional performance, but not on his personal life.  Very poor reporting from Channel 7.

    • Bitten says:

      11:56am | 21/05/10

      Why can’t you just bag him because he’s s&*t at his job? Come to think of it, why couldn’t he resign because he was s*&t at his job?

    • 'Gonger says:

      10:46pm | 23/05/10

      I can.  Had several s&*t train rides in recent months.

    • Bazz says:

      11:58am | 21/05/10

      Do the media hound straight politicians and film them entering brothels or strip clubs? This is blatant discrimination! Even Kevin Rudd went to a strip club in the USA but hey, that’s OK - he’s (evidently) straight!

    • who cares says:

      11:58am | 21/05/10

      Penbo normally you can make a pretty elegant argument but this is just ridiculous. So every public servant has to declare their preferences / infidelities. Give me a break. He is entitled to use govt provided car for private use. Any grief he gets on the home front is between him and his missus. Granted the guy is a standard issue political peanut but what he does in his own time is none of our business. Journos have had a bad week - first the tantys about joe hockey not releasing budget numbers according to your schedule and now some mucky salemesque kangaroo court.

    • Jas says:

      11:58am | 21/05/10

      Disgraceful behaviour by a journslist. Clearly as low as that lof a politician. Adam Walters has no credibility at all - as a human or a journo

    • Jason Akermanis says:

      12:00pm | 21/05/10

      I’m just glad he’s not in the AFL: ...

    • Brian Lake says:

      12:23pm | 21/05/10

      If you don’t start kicking some goals you won’t be in the AFL either

    • DC says:

      04:40pm | 21/05/10

      @Brian Lake:  Ha ha ha - quite funny (and true).  I think Akermanis is too busy setting himself up for life after AFL than playing AFL.

    • Jack Stack says:

      12:01pm | 21/05/10

      If David Campbell had been a hypocrite and voiced anti-Gay attitudes that would have been reprehensible and maybe warranted exposure BUT he didn’t. The fact that he is Gay or Bi-sexual is nobody’s business but his own. There’s no doubt about you media whores sticking together when the public is revolted by your behaviour and muck raking. I don’t know David Campbell, don’t vote Labour and have read where they say he was an incompetent minister BUT to have his life dragged into the vacuous and ethically challenged media in this way says a lot about how some in the media reside in a sewer. How could a reporter and a crew be so disgusting as to spend time waiting outside a Gay club to grab an iopportunity to destroy a life? What a whore job that must be. So now I expect you to expose those members of parliamwent who have not come out of the closet. ditto sports people, ditto entertainment people and ditto media people.

    • Peek A Boo says:

      12:11pm | 21/05/10

      You bet the labor party wont vote to ban the burka now. In fact they might buy all their sitting members one

    • John Goslino says:

      12:16pm | 21/05/10

      I think an MP is entitled to a reasonable level of privacy, even if they are (and justifiably so) under greater public scrutiny.  Was he doing anything illegal, well no as far as I can tell.  Morality depends on your perspective.  This episode reflects poorly on the media and raises concerns on privacy invasion.  Should we as taxpayers agree that every MP should be followed randomly by a discreet camera crew, maybe even spied on within their own home, to see what they are up to and that we are getting what we pay for?  Penbo’s comments that Mr. Campbell would have been distracted by his double life and thus less capable of performing his role is merely stupid speculation, and is not based on any evidence.  And the fact the NSW Government has problems has nothing to do with Mr. Campbell’s private activities.  We all need to grow up and focus on matters of substance, not justifying sensationalism and poor journalism under the “public right to know” banner.

    • Chris N says:

      04:29pm | 22/05/10

      John Goslino, I think you have missed the point here, this isn’t about privacy, being gay, etc it is about being honest with the electorate thereby having nothing to fear or hide. Mr Campbell has gone to great lengths to hide his secret as he obviously feared the consequences. This means we had a Police Minister who had a secret which left him open to blackmail or other subtle influence. I am not saying it happened, but here is a minister who clearly has a hidden secret, no matter whether it is being gay, having voted for the greens once or stole from his grandmother. A secret he went to great lengths to keep secret for 25 years. Can anyone believe he would treat a question from someone inside KKK the same as another constituent who didn’t know about his secret. He had a fear of being caught the whole time he has been a minister. If he told the truth he would have no reason to fear his secret coming out.

    • Daniel says:

      12:19pm | 21/05/10

      What we need is for journalists to stalk and defame other journalists. After all, these people are in the public eye, represent certain points of view and should have their integrity examined and exposed. Its in the public interest.

    • Clem says:

      01:47pm | 21/05/10

      +1

    • hot tub political machine says:

      04:59pm | 21/05/10

      +2

    • Trevil Knieval says:

      06:56pm | 27/05/10

      But we do not vote in journalists! MP’s are representing their constituants, and they have a right to know what their voice in government is up to. He did not have to be a politician, no one forced him.

    • Mike says:

      12:22pm | 21/05/10

      Only a journalist defending his own kind could come out with such a ridiculous and self-serving argument.  By your logic,  public servants - or anyone whose salary is paid by the taxpayer for that matter, police, teachers, nurses, etc - are equally not entitled to privacy. Today Channel 7 is spying on politicians. Who is the next target? Think of the potential for new TV shows. Instead of Motorway Patrol and RPA,  How about Cops in Brothels or Nurses Having a Naughty? The potential is enormous.

    • NB says:

      12:27pm | 21/05/10

      Never should have lasted this long as a Minister. If he’d done the honourable thing and quit after the Metro disatser or F3 debacle this would never have been exposed.

    • DC says:

      12:49pm | 21/05/10

      I think the inference in the story is that Mr Campbell might have been uncontactable in the same place on the afternoon of the F3 debacle and thats why it took so long for it to be sorted out. If that is the case, then he deserves every scrutiny for his actions.

    • Graham says:

      12:32pm | 21/05/10

      David Penberthy you’ve no idea . . don’t make the same mistake that Ch7 make . . just because you have an opinion doesn’t make it right.  There’s a vast difference between what the public need to know and like to know . . try and learn the difference . . you may have some vain hope as a journalist.

    • John Goslino says:

      09:56pm | 26/08/10

      Could not have put it better myself. There should be a demonstrable public interest, and I can’t see one.  Sure, Mr. Campbell had a private secret, and sure there is a possibility that someone could have used his secret to blackmail him or seek favours, but there was no evidence whatsoever of him being corrupted in that way.  It happened to be exposed by some sensation-seeking ‘journo’, then justified by a self-serving Penbo.  We are still waiting for the public benefit to materialise.  Penbo and others here can’t deliver that.  But then there is an industry is digging up spurious dirt on people, so Adam Walters and the like will always have jobs of some kind.  Good that this issue has spurred so many comments, chiefly advising the media how it should behave.

    • Rossco McGlashan says:

      12:38pm | 21/05/10

      David Campbell is gay? He is like the most hetero man out there! From his swinging singing routines to his devlish charm! I never would have thought the son of Jimmy Barnes would be gay.

    • Observer says:

      12:42pm | 21/05/10

      Mr Penberthy, by your words published in a widely read newspaper you directly influence the minds of all your readers. This impacts on the attitudes and behaviours of those people and their contacts including their children, Would you and all the editorial staff ( who are obviously complicit in influencing the public) please respond to the following questions_
      1. What is your political allegiance
      2. Have you ever used vehicles or other property of your newspaper for your personal reasons (with or without permission).
      3. Have your ever visited strip clubs or gay venues for any reason
      4. Have you ever cheated on your partner ( gay or otherwise,) been involved in any sexually deviant behaviour, or embarrassed your friends and family by getting drunk or making inappropriate remarks.
      5. How else do you demonstrate bullying behaviour
      If other people in the public are fair game under the pretext of “keeping them honest ” why not the members of the press. You have enormous power and I wish you would be more careful how you use it.

    • antiperspirant says:

      02:00pm | 21/05/10

      Observer says:

      12:42pm | 21/05/10

      “Mr Penberthy, by your words published in a widely read newspaper you directly influence the minds of all your readers.This impacts on the attitudes and behaviours of those people and their contacts including their children,”

      If you are that weak minded go watch Dora the Explorer. You will have a hard time in life kid if you cannot make up your own mind about things.

      Grow up. Think. Look at both sides and make a decision. By the way sometimes having no belief or point of view on a matter is an option and a choice.

    • Gaz says:

      12:45pm | 21/05/10

      You are wrong, wrong, wrong.  What a grubby and nsaty business you trade in.  Get a real job!

    • persephone says:

      12:49pm | 21/05/10

      1. He’s paid by the public - so are hundreds and thousands of public servants, such as teachers, nurses, tax collectors, parking inspectors, and so on (who also receive subsidised travel/accomodation for work purposes).  Should their private lives be splashed all over the media?

      2. He’s in a position of power. Why does that mean we should know about his private life? Can’t see the connection, there.

      3. He used his wife and children in campaign material. - Does he have a wife and children? If so, why shouldn’t he say so? As has been pointed out above, being ‘happily married’ and ‘homosexual’ aren’t actually incompatible - unless, of course, you think marriage is just about sex.

      4. He’s a member of a scandal prone government. Well, OK - if his behaviour is another demonstration of its corruption and incompetence (and there’s a bit of an argument there, if he used a chaffeur driven government car; if he simply drove a government car there, there may not be, as it depends on its terms of use).

      If, however, the ‘scandal’ is simply that he visits homosexual clubs, then that’ s no reflection on the performance of the government at all.

      By all means, can his performance as a Minister - but that has nothing to do with his private life.

      As we know now, many past parliamentarians who were lauded as heroes at the time had flaws which, by your rules, would make them fair game - Winston Churchill drank too much, Chifley, Roosevelt and Kennedy had mistresses - but that didn’t stop them being effective at their jobs.

      BTW, there is no evidence that Rudd either ‘enjoyed’ the Stokes incident and plenty of evidence to suggest that he didn’t. And a quarter of an hour or so in a strip club is not a night.

    • Coaster says:

      01:11pm | 21/05/10

      My humble bipartisan view is pretty simple. If you are elected to public office and you use any public funded tool, (in this case car) you are accountable.  I don’t care if it homosexual, hetrosexual or alien sexual!  It is more that an elected official be held accountable to a higher standard than the average citizen.  When you use taxpayer funds for anything that act or whatever is now a public issue.eg public servants are not permitted to use a govt car for private use, unless it is provided as part of a salary package, with private use facility. If Campbell had used his own car in his own time..his business not ours!  Unfortunately in this case he didn’t.  My view extends to all elected officials!

    • Mark says:

      01:21pm | 21/05/10

      !. When he represents the public and chooses to use “family values” as a platform yes

      2. Yes. Absolutely. Obviously hiding your sexuality leaves him open to the possibility of blackmail for one.

      3. Rubbish. Disingenuous pointless spin. If he had an affair with a woman what would you say. He cheated on his wife and kids with men instead of woman. Enough said. The “family man” if using that spiel in his public life better follow the ethos in his private life. Or are you saying it is ok for politicians to lie? You can’t have it both ways.

      4. Meh. The car is a side issue. Who cares. He is a member of the Labor Party. He has treated his constituents with contempt and his party like fools. He is part of the arrogance problem we have in NSW with the likes of Obeid etc.

      The rest is rubbish. Screwing around on the side leaves him open to all sorts of claims of misuse of powers, bias and other nasties.Hey if he came out and said look I love my wife and kids but am homosexual and have casual sex with men well we could all say so what. He hid it. He wanted to portray himself as a family man in a “family friendly” government. It was a lie.

      If he had has gone to a woman strip club he probably would be in line for the PM’s job by the way.

      Gawd pers the lies you say in your posts. You have no knowledge of whether Rudd enjoyed Scores or not. Do not project your prejudices here. And the time frame he spent there? Where you there? If so in what capacit?. If you were not you have no idea of how long he spent there. Stop lying and spinning. You don’t know. Don’t make stuff up. Seriously stop it.

      Great useless back Labor at all costs spinathon form pers.

      Completely missed the real story. Look at who the reporter was and the history.

      You are so bland in thought processes it is scary pers.

    • luke09 says:

      01:23pm | 21/05/10

      Pers, defending the indefensible once again, politics is a funny game. It wasn’t long ago labor supporters were criticising Tony Abbott for his religous beliefs and wearing budgie smugglers. Now the shoe is on the other foot. Oh, I forgot, labor pollies can do and say what they want, liberal pollies cannot.  rolleyes

    • Gazza says:

      02:08pm | 21/05/10

      persephone, you where going so well till the last paragraph. Still I like how you defend Rudd to the last, you are very commited.
      Obviously you are a women as I not aware of too many men who didnt enjoy the moment of a naked women dancing for you. I can tell you weather it be 15mins or 5 hours it still enjoyable.
      I take a little different line Rudd probably enjoyed what he saw very much, but he didnt do it at the Governments expense. As far as Im concerned what Rudd or Cambell do weather it engaging in the pleasures of homosexuality or going ot strip club is nobodies business.  You might have some explaining to the other half but that between you and the other half no the medias.

    • persephone says:

      02:31pm | 21/05/10

      Coaster

      I agree with you, to an extent (and my understaning is that he did not misuse his car).

      If you misuse a Comm car - one paid for by the State and provided purely for Ministerial use - yes, that’s a sacking offence.

      However, most pollies also have an electorate car, which they lease from the Parliament and is regarded as a private vehicle which they can use as they please (much like, when you salary package, the car you lease is effectively yours).

      Mark

      1. Did he? I don’t know anything about NSW politics, so I don’t know.

      2. Oh, the old ‘gays can’t be trusted’ meme. How old fashioned and prejudiced of you.

      Yes, if he has been being blackmailed, has as a result of that blackmail misused his position, etc then there’s a case to answer for.

      Otherwise it’s nobody’s business but his own.

      3. So did he do this? I have very little knowledge (or interest in) NSW politics, so I don’t know.

      I’ll gladly go after someone who uses a gay bashing platform to get elected and then is found to be less than pure themselves, but being gay and a happily married family man are not necessarily contradictory.

      There’s at least two cases I can think of off the bat (Jan Morris is the most famous) of men who became women but who described themselves as happily married and remained best friends with their former wives after their sex changes.

      As I said, happy marriages do not have to be based on sex.

      If he had an affair with a woman, then it’s still nobody else’s business, apart from his wife’s.

      As for whether he lied - did he tell the public he wasn’t homosexual at any point? Do you know that he lied to his wife, or are you just assuming this?

      4. But none of those things has anything to do with going to a gay club.
      Attack him for his performance in the job by all means - what he does otherwise is his own business.

      As for Rudd: there were a number of witnesses to his behaviour, all of whom agreed that he didn’t realise where they were going, that he was clearly unhappy about being there, and that he left as soon as possible.

      So, unless they were lying, it seems he didn’t enjoy himself.

      luke

      All of those behaviours by Tony Abbott you refer to were ones he chose to make public - the photos of him in his budgies didn’t get in the papers by accident, you know.

      If you decide to make an aspect of your private life public for political purposes - as Abbott did with his surf lifesaving, and his family - then you have to expect that they will be used against you as well.

      That’s not the same as

    • luke09 says:

      04:22pm | 21/05/10

      persephone, What happened to David Campbell with his private life in the paper is not a one off, malcolm fraser with his pants down and recently peter dutton buying his mining shares, both were private matters and both reported in the media. The media found a story and reported it. Private or public, it doesn’t matter to the media and what is wrong with voters finding out about the person they are voting for?

      This is not an anti labor conspiracy in action, private lives exposed by the media happens on both sides of politics.

    • antiperspirant says:

      05:05pm | 21/05/10

      By the way pers. The NSW premier called him disgraceful for hiding his double life from his family for 25 years. Itg wa on the TV of all places.

      Just saying

    • persephone says:

      09:09pm | 23/05/10

      Dutton’s mining shares were a matter of public record, btw. That’s how people knew about them.

      All politicians are legally obliged to publicly declare their share holdings etc so that we, as voters, can judge whether their decisions are influenced by their financial dealings.

      We’re not yet at the stage where we ask them to write down their sexual preferences and who they’re sleeping with!

    • Rob says:

      12:54pm | 21/05/10

      It is no surprise that once again one of the 6:30 programs (note that I’m not referring to them as News & Current Affairs - as they clearly are not) has given in to the self-promoting agendas of their ‘investigative’ snoops. Adam Walters has clearly implied that family values and homosexuality are mutually exclusive - and in the cruelest possible way, used this as his rationale for exposing the private life of David Campbell when, in spite of popular belief, he does have a right to privacy. I mean, has DC done anything illegal? No, that club exists legally. If David Campbell did not use a government car to get there, then would one of Walter’s key arguments fall short? I have no illusions about Campbell’s performance as the NSW transport minister however I think this has set the precedent for something ugly, something that the public doesn’t need. The 2 only people that could have possibly gained from this whole scandal is Adam Walters himself and Barry O’Farrell. The moral issues lies not with Campbell, it lies with Channel 7 and their poor judgment.

    • Mark says:

      01:00pm | 21/05/10

      If the man is competent at his job, who really gives a rats arse if he attends gay clubs. I’m not saying he IS competent at his job, but as a taxpayer I say the focus should be on how he serves the taxpayer and not on his sex life. This is just a massive distraction.

    • Daniel says:

      01:02pm | 21/05/10

      David, you might sound harsh but unfortunately your right and I’m no Liberal supporter either. Both sides are as bad as each other. Penbo would you have been the same way if it was someone from the Liberal party?

    • Slim says:

      01:04pm | 21/05/10

      It pleases me to see that so many people are of the opinion that Channel 7 was the perpetrator of the worst crime in this instance. Such grubby journalism as this is offensive to fair minded people, and the justification for running the story as in The Punch article is laughable.

    • Clem says:

      01:55pm | 21/05/10

      Slim, I agree with you saying what Channel 7 did was reprehensible, but now that it’s out there, this very much deserves to be run in The Punch or any other media site. If you look at the commentary out there, most of it focuses on the ethics of reporting such a story as this. The actual story itself seems to be of secondary importance, especially given it’s concerned with yet another NSW govt scandal.

    • Justin says:

      01:04pm | 21/05/10

      Anyone in public life these days can’t expect to keep secrets like this. Sad, but true. The problem is, most people have some regret that they’re not proud of, so if you rule them out, who is left pure enough to be a politician?

      The quality of our politicians has already drastically declined in the last 20 years. Campbell was already an example of that - he was promoted beyond his abilities & he’s far from alone. That’s already the trend, & with the added fear of the gotcha, even fewer quality people will stick their heads up.

      I firmly believe that getting Campbell away from Roads & Transport is nothing but good for the state, but the way it has happened will do long term damage in its own right.

    • azog says:

      01:05pm | 21/05/10

      This is an apologia for fleet street style gutter journalism. I hope this affair damages Seven, the Telegraph and the careers of all of the ‘journalists’ involved.

    • preciouspress says:

      01:07pm | 21/05/10

      Maybe things may not turn out that badly for David Campbell. Similar exposure hasn’t much affected the career of Alan Jones.

    • Steve peters says:

      01:07pm | 21/05/10

      David Campbell has come out of the closet because he was caught…when in public office you need to be a clean skin…the media love reporting sh..t as this sells stories and ruins lives, families and friendships..as well as a career, whether you support him like him or otherwise he was an idiot because one day he was going to get caught…Tuesday was the day!!

    • SM says:

      01:08pm | 21/05/10

      he’s completely incompetent, and if it took something like this to get rid of him, then good

    • David Stein says:

      01:19pm | 21/05/10

      Of course the press is going to come out with an article like this justifying their disgusting behaviour. 
      Taking the logic of this ridiculous article, let’s subject journalists and their lives to the same scrutiny as politicians.
      TV and print journalists, editors and newspaper proprietors have a huge influence on what we read and what influences us on a daily basis.  Not just politically, but the purchasing decisions we make, our social morals, our thoughts on immigrants, and across every range of matters.
      Let’s investigate whether any journalist has been having adulterous affairs, is an alcoholic, might be a closet gay, is an illegal drug user, has had an abortion, or perhaps has a criminal record.
      Just imagine if the blowtorch was turned their direction for once.

    • Michael William Lockhart says:

      01:20pm | 21/05/10

      David Penberthy, you have hit the nail right on the head, I could not agree with you more!!!

    • harry sack says:

      01:26pm | 21/05/10

      Maybe instead of resigning he should moved across to be Minister for Fashion - having been in the closet for so long

    • lockstock says:

      01:54pm | 21/05/10

      You need to work on your sarcasm, its pretty bad.

    • 'Gonger says:

      10:38pm | 23/05/10

      Wonder what else might emerge from the closet now that the door is open?

    • Mark says:

      01:34pm | 21/05/10

      Mr Penberthy
      I doubt this respnse will get through your editing process but I live in hope.
      Let’s look at the facts:
      1. He is allowed to use his government car for private purposes.
      2. Being gay, or bisexual is not against the law.
      3. Attending the gay sex venue is not against the law.
      4. Since when does being gay or bisexual disqualify someone from being a good family man, husband or father?
      5. What evidence do you have that the image he has chosen to project an image of himself in order to win votes – the happily married father of two, who has used his wife and children as a visual backdrop for his campaigns for local and state government - is false?
      6. Do you have any knowledge of whether his wife and family were aware of his sexuality?
      7. What evidence do you have that his private life is a mess, or that he is massively disrtracted by his private life to the detriment of his job as a minister?
      You have drawn a number of inmferences and presented them as facts. The case for ADam Walters breaking this story as payback is far stronger than your suggestion that Campbell performed poorly as a minister because of his private life.

      As it happened we agree on one thing - Campbell was a poor parliamentarian and a failure as a mionister. The sad thing is that his performance among his cabinet collecgues is typical and average.

      The biggest story here is the abuse of privacy by Channel 7. How many private citizens did they film entering or leaving this venue?

      I woudl he happy to investigate your personal life to see whether a personin such influence as yourself is gulity of any personal shortcomings - a mistress, a gay lover or somethiong worse? Of course, you would not want that would you?

      My assessment of your profefssional performance is that you rank about the same as Mr Campbell. You sir are are a homophobic bigot.

    • antiperspirant says:

      01:53pm | 21/05/10

      Ahh my useless namesake lets have a look.

      1. Yes. So what. That is not the issue.
      2. Yes. So what.
      3. Yes. So what.
      4. It doesn’t. But if you hide that side of yourself and portray yourself as other in running for public office I think the term liar is fair enough.
      5. Ok. Let him put out an image of him and another guy he meets at a club having casual sex as his next “I am here to represent you image”. Grow up kid. That wasn’t even a half good try.
      6. No. Neither was the public. His image as projected was of heterosexual family man presumably not promiscuous. He didn’t exactly pose with 6 nude modles now did he?
      7. Err running around to casual sex clubs when the exposure of theat would cause people to question your whole life would suggest his mind was working on few issues. What evidence you ask? Oh I dunno, the front page stories. The resignation. the public outpouring of all sorts of emotions. That type of stuff. Gawd you are interested in it. Don’t you think he considered the consequences and they might have weighed on his mind?

      I love the homophobic bigot card. When all else fails. When all is lost. When you have no point. Play the race or homophobic card.

      What a loser. Get an argument and get back to us. So far you have shown us nothing.

    • Saskia says:

      01:56pm | 21/05/10

      And how does attacking Tony Abbott for being a committed Catholic pass the same test?

      I agree with you. 

      These personal attacks by the ALP/ex ALP insiders are simply personal smears.  Gutter tactics of the truly damned.

    • carnegie says:

      02:35pm | 21/05/10

      @Mark…..and all others implying that he wasn’t leading a cheating double life…

      It was abundantly clear in mr Campbell’s resignation words that this information was “news” to his family and that they need time and space to work it through.

      Whether it is this example of poor character or Troy Buswell (to use another), surely there needs to be some expectation that publicly elected officials are of good character. There is always a price to be paid for blatant deception.

      And in anticipation of the “people in glasshouses” , I have learned these lessons myself, the hard way!

    • EB says:

      03:28pm | 21/05/10

      Sham marriages are OK as long as both partners know about it, because it’s the been the traditional way for gays and lesbians to contribute to public life without being targeted for their sexuality. Everyone needs to be able to participate in the economy, but people should make a clear choice between visiting sex clubs and a career in the public spotlight.

    • Jodes says:

      01:45pm | 21/05/10

      Unless he is openly homophobic in practice, Im not interested if Campbell is cheating on his wife.  (That is, if it is cheating because we don’t know if Campbell and the Mrs had discussed his bisexuality and come to an agreement that they were happy with.) 

      Our right to privacy as a society is being gradually corroded away - we need to get it back.  Campbell’s private time is his, and if no laws were being broken, leave him and his family be.

    • antiperspirant says:

      01:56pm | 21/05/10

      Nah. How about we ask our politicians to project and live their lives by the values they use to get elected on.

      Lets try that for a giggle eh. Just for once.

    • Chris says:

      01:58pm | 21/05/10

      I agree. He is not a criminal. There are only two questions that that are relevant - is he a good Minister and does he do a good job for the people in his electorate? Don’t legitimise intrusion into his private affairs on the grounds that he is less entitled to privacy because he is in public life. Remember Michael Kirby.

    • Tierp says:

      01:48pm | 21/05/10

      And so David - do you also warrant lesser degrees of privacy for the same reason - that you have a public profile?

      I hope some gutter scum goes through garbage and finds some juicy, soul-destroying, career imploding, family-wrecking piece of dirt in your life and then splashes it on the web.

      And don’t think their is nothing to find - we all have skeletons.

      This episode is disgusting - journalists must be such pigs

    • Peter says:

      01:51pm | 21/05/10

      David Penberthy
      I am struggling to see what the story is? its like a hand grenade and lest wee what is the real story here
      is the inferance is an outed minister?
      The F3 maybe the real story, as there seems to be different versions of events from that night Even Mr Campbell is still refuting it even his press conference today.
      I actually thought Adam Walters handled it very carefully and didnt mention the word gay.
      I heard you chat on 2GB today with Chris Smith, and we do live in a society where gay is not tolerated in society.
      I am not the type of guy who looks gay, and i hear every day anti gay stuff everywhere in the workplace. I wouldnt come out because of these people. they prejudice other gays. I had a college comment on another collegue and confide in me. “Im worried X is gay” i thought so what. he didnt realise i was. Despite what you and Chris Smith think its not a thing of the 80’s its happening in so many places. I hear it all the time. If you dont think that there is still gay prejudice in Sydney then you must have your head in the sand. and while i want to come out, i feel my sexuality will judge what else i do in life. Im sure Mr Campbell would think the same. he probably has heard the same social and workplace prejudices and would take that as a factor in “not upsetting the people around him”

    • Andrew says:

      01:52pm | 21/05/10

      If we have a right to know everything there is to know about anyone that is paid by taxpayer dollars and is in a position of power, then we should also know everything there is to know about the people reporting on them, else how do we know we can trust those doing the reporting. Unfortunately this would result in an infinite regress, which suggests we should just leave these people to their own lives in the same way we leave those in other professions. I wouldn’t be surprised if the author has a few skeletons in the closet, and really he should air them all before we decide whether he has anything worthwhile to say. Ridiculous might be the reply, he may have very worthwhile things to say even if he enjoys all the pleasures Oxford Street has to offer, even if we are none the wiser. Surely not says the bigot.

    • Colmac says:

      02:07pm | 21/05/10

      My concern regarding closet gays in positions of authority revolve around issues of blackmail, and allowing yourself and your principles to be compromised due to the fear of being outed. What if the photographer that took the video was not a journo but a standover man? And that man wanted political favours.  All this ranting about homophobes is not valid. it is a security issue not a gay rights issue. When you carry such private secrets when involved in public life you are on a knives edge,

    • Mark says:

      02:35pm | 21/05/10

      No doubt the same standards would then apply to those who have extra-marital affairs, visit brothels, beat their wives, snort coke, drink to excess, drink and drive etc etc. “Let him among you who has not sinned cast the first stone.”

      Interesting to note that Peter Meakin, who authorised the Channel 7 story to go to air, was himself convicted of drink driving. He is the one who committed a crime, not DC.

    • DC says:

      03:43pm | 21/05/10

      @Comac:  The same thing could apply to politicians who are having secret affairs.

      Take for example the Western Australian Chair Sniffer who was caught out having an affair with a Greens MP.  He was not only having a secret affair, but he was also using public funds to hide it - that’s a double whammy in my book, as he opened himself up to the opportunity for blackmail due to the affair, as well as opening himself up for blackmail for misusing public funds.

      Ultimately, it doesn’t matter whether they are gay or straight or bisexual - if they are up to no good, they open the door to blackmail.

      It doesn’t matter whether sex is involved, whether it’s a fraud issue, or trying to obtain a $12 million commission - if you’re up to no good, you open yourself up to blackmail.

    • ben says:

      04:14pm | 21/05/10

      The only people that busted this guy were the media!

    • iansand says:

      09:16am | 22/05/10

      If being gay is raises a potential for blackmail there is something wrong with our society.  The people who need to be exposed are the homophobes, not the gay people.

    • Allan says:

      02:08pm | 21/05/10

      David you are simply trying to justify what you see as your right as a journalist to print whatever story your brand of trashy journalists can find to sell newspapers. I stopped buying the DT for that very reason. Everyone has a right to privacy.

    • Judas says:

      02:14pm | 21/05/10

      All that I want to know is if it was bears night at Ken’s.

    • H of SA says:

      02:14pm | 21/05/10

      As the minister was apparently entitled to use the government car for personal use I don’t see why he resigned. Its got nothing to do with his public duties. Reporting the story may have been interesting to the public, but it certainly wasn’t in the public interest.

    • Peter says:

      02:47pm | 21/05/10

      Reba Meagher former NSW Health Minister and Adam Walters the Jornalist who broke the story on Channel 7 were seen using her ministerial car. They have a child together now. How the worm turns. Ms Meagher Walters, and now Campbell using a ministerial car for personal use. Today the Premier said she takes the kids to soccer and does the grocery shopping in her ministerial car… is this the story??? i dont think so

    • H of SA says:

      03:42pm | 21/05/10

      Sorry I realise my post was ambiguous - the sex part of the story has even less to do with his public duties, I know thats the “story” but my point (made poorly) is that the only possible problem was the misuse of the car - which it was not.

      The whole reporting of this is baseless therefore and reflects very poorly on channel 7. Imagine what Mr. Campbell’s family is going through and how the media attention doesn’t help - and all for something that has nothing to do Mr. Campbell’s public role.

    • The Guardian says:

      02:25pm | 21/05/10

      David,
      “The first is that as a politician his entire existence is underwritten by the taxpaying public – his salary, his car, his living arrangements, his ability to travel, all of it is fully or partially funded by the public, and to an extent which massively eclipses the average wage earner. The second is that as a politician he wields enormous and direct power over the way we live our lives, even own financial status. 

      The third is that as a politician he has chosen to project an image of himself in order to win votes”
      Fascinating that you argue the complete opposite of your counter part at The Australian Ian Smith, see http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/opinion/rogues-gallery-of-ill-mannered-journalists/comments-e6frg6zo-1225868875541
      Perhaps David the truth is that if you are an aspiring LNP government journalists are not entitled to scrutinize but if its a Labor government its open slather.Or is this just a News LTD philosophy.Remember the commie twitterer’s Dave! LOL

    • Ant Sharwood says:

      02:26pm | 21/05/10

      Yeah, yeah, yeah, but what does ERIC have to say?

    • JoJo says:

      02:27pm | 21/05/10

      If he was hetero and busted in a brothel or swingers club you would all be sniggering or saying that he is unfit blah blah blah.  Suck it up Gay community.
      Stop playing the homophobe card.  The bloke is a grub.

    • Ex-Labour Bunny says:

      02:33pm | 21/05/10

      Just a few lines from the “good book”
      I’m not too religious but these lines come to mind:

      “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone,”  - John 8: 3-7

      Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral.  – Hebrews 13:4 (NIV)

      For the reporter who broke the story, here’s a line that may haunt him later in life.

      May you live in interesting times & May you come to the attention of those in authority - Chinese storyteller Kai Lung

      Just remember the Chinese meant these sayings as a curse.

    • Aussie Expat says:

      02:36pm | 21/05/10

      This is nothing more than the gutter trash journalism that the majority of Austraian have come to enjoy and expcet. Info-tainment on the box, gossip magazine peddling so call public interest stories, and the major newspapers creating interest in non-events are what makes money for the media owners. Until the Australian public loses interest in this kind of crap, it will be dished up ad infinitum.

    • Betelnut says:

      02:39pm | 21/05/10

      Fair enough David. 

      But the precedent is now set and I expect you to put all and everyone seeking public office, or in a position to influence government policy including media personalities, under an intensive grilling of their previously private life, without fear or favour.  If the threshold of releance is to be set so low, please refrain from calling yourselves journalists when the word Paparazzo already exisits.

    • dan says:

      02:39pm | 21/05/10

      What does happily married mean ?  Do have an insight into his family that suggests he wasn’t in a happy marriage or family arrangement ?  I’m hardly convinced his family had no knowledge of it.

    • durutt says:

      02:50pm | 21/05/10

      This column is appalling

    • George H says:

      03:33pm | 21/05/10

      I totally agree, looks like Mr Penberthy has his mobile cocoon on again! Im no apologist for Mr Campbell’s personal conduct - but in his generation growing up in the then steel/coal town of Wollongong - being single wasn’t an option, thus he got married at 19! “Coming out” didn’t exist. I wonder at what stage should he have abandoned his children and indulged himself in an ‘out’ lifestyle in Sydney? I wonder at what age he was supposed to stop loving his kids and run off into the big smoke, you all know that gay people are inept of paternal feelings! Just wondering if someone can tell me at what stage of his life should he have done these things?

    • KD says:

      02:54pm | 21/05/10

      I don’t really care why he’s gone, or which particular sword he fell on, I’m just so very glad he is gone.  He was by far THE most ineffectual “minister” (and I use the term loosely) amongst a smorgasbord of other useless, brainless fools, so winning that particular crown is no mean achievement!  Good riddance Mr Slow.  Now, how to get the rest of them to resign .....?  And to all of you bleeding hearts who have turned to putty today, waving your gay or bi rights flags wildly - I’m sure many of you weren’t feeling nearly as charitable when you were affected by one of his many stuff ups, particularly transport-related!  What totally warped and short memories some people have!

    • KD says:

      03:12pm | 21/05/10

      PS:  I also don’t get why everyone’s attacking the journalists?  They’re just doing what they do, which is report the news.  Why attack them?  You people have lost the plot!

    • Dan says:

      07:12pm | 22/05/10

      KD, the point is that he should have resigned/been sacked because of his stuff-ups, not because of something that is nobody’s business.

      As for the journalists, it wasn’t news! They weren’t doing what they do, unless what they do is being grubby, homophobic and moralistic. They should be attacked. If they can’t take it, then they shouldn’t attack other people themselves!

    • julia says:

      02:56pm | 21/05/10

      I agree with Penbo, sychophant that I am.

      Any politician or Christian who uses his family to present an image is fair fodder for the media if they’re hiding something.

      For my money, Campbell’s real crimes are being complicit in keeping Labor in government in NSW.

    • Josh says:

      03:06pm | 21/05/10

      I don’t care about his private life because that is what it is - private. Campbell should have resigned based on the fact he is an incompetent labor minister.

    • DC says:

      03:33pm | 21/05/10

      So if he was an incompetent Liberal minister it would be different?  I guess Abbott is safe in your eyes then - he’s incompetent, but he’s a Liberal, so you’ll just accept it.

    • Mark says:

      04:00pm | 21/05/10

      No DC, I think the point is that to say ‘incompetent’ and ‘Labor’ in the same sentence is redundent.

    • Against the Man says:

      07:12pm | 21/05/10

      Hey DC Abbott isn’t when compared to rudd or swan or roxon or garrett. This scandal could have happened to a politician in any party. Campbell was an incompetent minister and that is how he should be judged by the public. Time for change.

    • Margaret says:

      03:08pm | 21/05/10

      What a crock….considering journo’s always claim to act “in the public interest” should we hold them up to a similar standard as politicians?

      I gues not because if drugs, excessive alcohol, affairs, or all of the above were sackable offences in your profession there would hardly be any journos left on the Macquaire Street beat.

      campbell deservs a private life so please cease your self righteous hypocrisy

      Mark

    • Timmo says:

      03:26pm | 21/05/10

      I don’t know what the big problem is here. I thought that Sydney always bragged that it was the Gay Capital of the World next to San Francisco and Florida. His Wife and Family probably knew that he was leaning to the Gay Lifestyle. Women aren’t stupid are they?. They may have talked about it and had an arrangement to keep the family together. I should imagine it happens a lot.

      Anyway it’s no ones business what an adult person does in their spare time apart from serious crime. Isn’t that the bedroom rule?. Maybe he shouldn’t have gone there in a government car, maybe a taxi would have been more discreet.

      I don’t think he should have resigned from his job as he committed no crime against the public and being gay is not a crime. Many nice gay people out there, why the problem?.

      The media are like Ogres, hiding under the bridge waiting to jump out and eat everybody. Yet if we all sniffed around their lives a bit i’m sure something would come up with them. Who’d want to be that type of journalist anyway, hardly as good as people like George Negus who always seems to lead the worthwhile stories that inform on more worthwhile subject matters.

    • Crystal says:

      03:26pm | 21/05/10

      Journalism.  Every single journalist in Australia should stand up and annouce their oposition to this story.

      If this is allowed to continue without the journalists fighting it, well you are signing your own redundancy papers. Accept this.. and you should be ashamed.  This is not news?

      is the guy a good parlimentarian?
      is he fulfilling his role as an MP to th best of his abilities?
      have the people who voted him in, been asked if they want him out?
      what is the line that is required to have someone sacked?
      sexual activitiy with another person?
      sexual activitiy with another person of the same sex?
      sexual activitiy with another person of the same sex in private?
      sexual activitiy with another person of the same sex in a public building?

      The guy has done nothing illeagal!

      No-one on this site or in the media, knows what his wifes opinion of this is, so at this time, we dont even know if he has done some thing considered “morally” wrong.

      Shame on every journalist who allows this to occur, each and every one of you is responsible.

      SHAME!

    • Dingo says:

      12:46am | 22/05/10

      David Campbell is NOT a good parliamentarian and he is NOT fulfilling his role as an MP to the standard the public require. This should have been the story many, many years ago.

      His private life is just that - PRIVATE

    • DaveDC says:

      03:27pm | 21/05/10

      Your comment:
      What a stupid article David. I dont agree at all. Tax payers money. Well I pay for the DT each day with $$ I earn. Does that give me the right to know about all your private details?? How else can I know if what you are writting is correct and not a waste of my money.

    • Andrew says:

      03:28pm | 21/05/10

      It doesn’t matter who pays the guy’s wages, he wasn’t abusing his (work) position so he shouldn’t have been scandalised this way.  My employer has no right to know what I do in my spare time so why do the voters of NSW have a right to know about this bloke?

    • jo says:

      03:28pm | 21/05/10

      Well at least he can be his authentic self now. Doubt he had to resign - did cheating make Bill Clinton a worse president? We all present something in our professional lives that is different to our personal lives. I feel sorry for his family but I do pity him too.

    • possum says:

      03:34pm | 21/05/10

      quite right jo. you are awsome!

    • andrew says:

      03:29pm | 21/05/10

      Your comment: Amazing how every talk back show on radio today was full of callers wanting to discuss different aspects of this story yet not one of Alan Jones’s callers did. Sure 2GB don’t screen their calls, I believe them.

    • Cowboy from Cairns now missing 2 teeth says:

      03:40pm | 21/05/10

      As for the people saying being gay or bisexual and a still a caring father and loving husband. Are you stupid?

      I cannot believe the rubbish that get put on the internet nowdays. Has the world gone mad? you people are the same lot that say we should teach ethics in school. As long it your ethics, right.

      Taking a bit of a guess here but it is not good to have sex with lots of different people. Sure people do it and sure its not illegal. But you are hardly concerned about your wife or you family are you. You are only concerned about self gratification. If you choose to be gay fine but for you family and your self it best if you leave and be gay than pretend and not. Living a double life is not healthy.

    • George H says:

      03:58pm | 21/05/10

      Really? So female escorts only have responsible single men as clients? No married man would ever engage the services of a working girl unless he has either made full disclosure to his wife, children oh and of course his employer! That’s why there isn’t swingers party’s all over Sydney for over 45’s! I’d be more concerned about seeing a dentist instead of polluting the world with your myopic poison…..you might need a dictionary.

    • Felix says:

      04:34pm | 21/05/10

      Choose to be gay? It’s not a choice.

      As well as missing two teeth it’s pretty clear you’re also missing quite a few brain cells.

    • Luke says:

      03:42pm | 21/05/10

      Journalism has sunk to a new low.  That was a pathetic defence of the story David.

      You guys are just asking for Invasion of Privacy legislation to be introduced.  Given the conduct of the media, particularly the DT, it would be hard to argue against such a change.

    • ben says:

      04:16pm | 21/05/10

      Penbo if we are giong this route, lets go the whole British way and start dumping on newspaper editors caught having affairs.

    • interloper says:

      03:45pm | 21/05/10

      How reassuring to read these comments - the vast majority being sensible and reasonable. Pembo, you’re entitled to your opinion, but it should be pretty clear to you that it’s not widely shared.
      All of the public interest arguments boil down to ‘if [fact we don’t know], then disclousre is in the public interest’. If his wife didn’t know. If he was there when he should have been doing his job. A journalist worthy of the name would have established these facts, and then we wouldn’t be having this discussion.
      I don’t think private frequenting of sex clubs (gay or straight) makes him incompetent, or deserving of losing his job (if he’s incompetent, that’s another matter!). Public humiliation of a man for personal gain - now I think that’s a sackable offence. Channel 7?

    • marley says:

      03:46pm | 21/05/10

      The thing I find really annoying here is that 7 “outed” a Minister for his “colourful” sex life.  Who cares, really?  Campbell may not have been the best minister, and he may have misrepresented his values to his constituents, but he’s committed no legal offense.  The worst you can call him is a hypocrite.  And yet the media are all over him for the salacious details of what is, in the end, a matter for him and his family.

      Look, we’re talking NSW here, with half the ALP up to its eyeballs in corruption of one sort or another.  Wollongong (of which Campbell was Lord Mayor for years before moving up to state politics) has had its council canned and been placed under administration due to corruption.  The ICAC investigation brought to light downright illegal behaviour by some local council employees and their developer friends;  it also brought to light some fairly questionable activities by ALP stalwarts, both in and out of Parliament.  Where the hell is the investigative journalism on something that really matters?  Where is 7 when it comes to casting a light into the dark corners of politicians’ relationships with their “mates”?  Where is 7 when it comes to unearthing how much some of our benighted “leaders” actually knew about dealings which doubtless have cost the taxpayer millions over the years?

      7 and the rest of the media have put real investigative journalism in the “too hard” basket, and turned themselves into paparazzi.  There’s plenty of muckraking to be done in NSW, and the best they can come up with is a sad man with a confused sex life.  Personally, I think this whole sorry tale is an indictment on the standard of modern journalism.

    • BTS says:

      04:11pm | 21/05/10

      ...and it’s not like he’s the first politician to misrepresent the facts.

    • marley says:

      07:17pm | 21/05/10

      My point is, there’s a whole lot of “misrepresentation” out there which is really affecting our pockets.  This case isn’t one of them.  So why the heck are the media so concerned about shooting a sitting duck, and not going after the whole flock of vultures on the wing?

    • 6c legs says:

      10:29am | 23/05/10

      I’m having trouble deciding if your first comment (@3.46), or “cb”  (23 comments down) are “best of the thread”.

    • Bezza says:

      04:01pm | 21/05/10

      “Combined, these four things mean that the public is entitled to know more about a politician such as David Campbell than they are a private citizen.”

      Sorry David but thats Bullshit. 100% unadulterated bullshit.

      We are a culture of hypocrisy and this is but one example. Why is it okay for the public, for private citizens to participate in activities that are both legal and regulated and for our politicians not to?

      Would you resign your job David if you had an affair, went to a trip club or were caught speeding? At the end of the day we have this absurd expectation that public figures are expected to live up to some pseudo-christian moral standard that the general public itself doesn’t. What a joke. It is unrealistic and it is stupid.

      Today I have read a plethora of complaints by people who have no idea about the kinds hardship people like Mr Campbell have lived with. He didn’t grow up in a free society where the debate on sexual freedom and equal rights abounds. He grew up in a time when gay people were openly harassed, assaulted and vilified. Such men had to marry and have families lest they cast suspicion on themselves, they lived in constant fear and many still do.

      What right then does a TV Network have to stalk a man doing nothing illegal, not abusing his usage of his car which he is permitted to use for private use. They don’t! The Seven Network has stooped to a new low, they have gutter journalism of the lowest kind.

      It is not defensible for representatives of the seven network to say that because Mr Campbell has apologised to his family and friends it means it is okay, because he knows he did something wrong. Mr Campbell is of the generation who have lived under a hatful society which has taught him to feel guilt and remorse for being gay. Cashing in on that as a justification for this kind of lousy low life headline hunting is pathetic.

    • Timmo says:

      08:07pm | 21/05/10

      good one bezza. That was great.

    • ben says:

      04:12pm | 21/05/10

      This morning Walters admitted the Minister had done nothing illegal but it was “a moral question”.

      Who the hell is he - or Peter Meakin - to make the the judgement.

      Penbo, this story did not come to them - they made it. They followed and filmed this bloke after hours.

      We have radio broadcasters and media opinion writers who daily provoke debate, refer to their family and wield enormous influence.

      Given their power and enormous influence, why isnt their private life also under scrunity?

    • Cathy says:

      04:16pm | 21/05/10

      If an MP frequents the Kings Cross shooting gallery in their own time would that be a matter of public interest?

    • Fenton says:

      04:25pm | 21/05/10

      When can we have anti media day!! A day when everyone turns off the TV and radio and dare I say it the web news channels and just try to live a normal life again.

    • George H says:

      04:27pm | 21/05/10

      Kudos to you Punch Comments Team - You’ve shown no bias or selective editing unlike some other news sites and blogs. Kudos to The Comments Team not Mr Penberthy!

    • Steve Smith says:

      04:28pm | 21/05/10

      Wow ... imagine if a AFL player was “exposed” as gay! Looks like Aker was right, the media would be extremely tolerant.

    • alex of nsw says:

      04:34pm | 21/05/10

      The issue is about trust. His family couldn’t trust him, and he sure couldn’t be trusted to use a taxpayer funded vehicle. If he was open for the go nobody would care but instead he decided to lie to the people of nsw about who he really is. and when is comes to our elected officials if we cannot trust them then they shouldn’t be in the job.

    • Nic says:

      04:35pm | 21/05/10

      Do we have the right to know about the drinking and sleeping habits of those in the media as well? We purchase a product that they are paid to supply.
      Maybe public servants should be accountable as well for their domestic lives after hours. their salaries are paid by the public as well.

      Campbell was paid to do his job & he did it as well as any state government minister, which is a pretty low standard, going by the behaviour of the WA treasurer.

      Today Tonight and A Current Afair have been guilty of the lowest level of advertorials and doorstop journolism and the normal media have been very happy to feed of it.

    • Timothy says:

      04:40pm | 21/05/10

      Considering that Mr. Campbell did nothing illegal, this is a non-issue. The people who are making a fuss about it are most likely insecure spouses. If it didn’t affect Mr. Campbell’s ability to do his job, I think he should still have his post and not have to leave on the basis of this private matter alone.

      If there is an issue with the way ministerial vehicles are used, that should be an issue for the lawmakers to enact.

    • DC (but not David Campbell) says:

      04:45pm | 21/05/10

      “Combined, these four things mean that the public is entitled to know more about a politician such as David Campbell than they are a private citizen.”

      Does that mean a TV Crew has the right to invade the privacy of EVERY single politician in this country?  Should we expect Channel 7 cameras to appear in the homes of Rudd and Abbott without their knowledge next?

      If I read your first “reason” correctly, we do.

    • hot tub political machine says:

      04:55pm | 21/05/10

      Haha, yeah - because Abbott and Rudd both portray themselves as “family men” maybe we should have TV crews at their family dinner to see if they are really nice to their kids or not.

      Its a shoddy argument. If it isn’t anything to do with the job - why the heck would I care?

    • Scott says:

      06:56pm | 21/05/10

      I use a simple guide when assessing an exclusive ‘story’. Would this revelation have a chace at the Walkley Awards? I doubt it.

    • jim morris says:

      04:55pm | 21/05/10

      Until I’d thought about it I didn’t realise that I don’t really know what goes on inside a Gay sex club. Plenty of respondents seem to be familiar with gay sex clubs. Mind giving me a description so I can better consider the matter.

    • George H says:

      04:59pm | 21/05/10

      This morning I was thinking, for a country that espouses itself as being enlightened and of progressive thought - We are infact stuck in th 50’s.  But reading the majority of views here this afternoon - I have regained faith in our country again. We’re not a country over-run with bigots and judgmental neanderthals!

    • Steve Harrison says:

      05:03pm | 21/05/10

      Seems if you use a gay sex club in your limited personal time, you have to resign your position in government, but if you use your goverrnment postion for personal gain and misuse your electorate staff for personal gain (MP Michael Johnson), then your party expels you; but you can remain in parliament.
      Who has committed the real crime against the community here? Great work Channel Seven, who is next on your crusade to out everyoneand anyone you don’t like….I would bet good money the Club invovled will see less and less of some very prominent and respected business and gvoernment people over the coming years!!!

    • Lisa says:

      05:14pm | 21/05/10

      The journo who did the story was engaged to Reba Meagher and the two were infamous for leaving a pub in a taxi and making the parliamentary driver wait for them for 10 hours in the carpark of GMT.
      He has also violated at least two parts of the MEAA Code of Ethics. This whole thing smells of payback to me.

    • John Le Mez says:

      05:32pm | 21/05/10

      watching walters do his live report from parliament house on seven news last night was pure frontline. i understand steve barrrett “produced” the “story”. how very surprising.

    • Jennifer says:

      05:53pm | 21/05/10

      Disgusting journalistic ethics here. No, his sex life is none of our business, and the media should be ashamed of themselves for trying to defend this gutter journalism.

    • cb says:

      06:06pm | 21/05/10

      So Penbo, does every single public school teacher, ABC journalist and council garbage worker have as little right to privacy as David Campbell - simply because they get paid by taxpayers?  It’s a ridiculous proposition.

      You are a very good journalist.  Why would you stoop to such a low level to defend a piece of work like Adam Walters?  Here’s the bloke that as a Govt staffer partied in the niteclub while the ministerial driver waited downstairs and who is a long wy from pure in so-called ‘family matters’?

      David Campbell will certainly not go down in history as the world’s best Transport Minister.  He broke my heart with his 19th Century view of Sydney Ferry privatisation, his lack of capacity to convince Treasury to back the Transport Blueprint and his lack of appetite for industrial reform in rail - so you can imagine that I certainly do not defend him from the Left.  Further, I imagine that he must have resigned himself to the reality of being ‘outed’ as a way to bring things to a head and I personally wish on behalf of he and his family that he had spared them the public humiliation that the vouyeristic Ch 7 story allowed.

      However, he was and remains a very decent human being, a person who spent years having to hide away his true sexuality to conform with social (and it appears, media) norms and a person who had the courage to serve the people of Wollongong as a mayor, MP and Minister.  I for one find that a recipe for courage not cowardice.

      Every sngle time the media, and the public, rail about politicians’ and public servants’ social lives they condemn this nation to even worse politicians and public servants down the track.  Despite ridiculous commentary to the contrary, the money is crap, the hours are horendous, the impact on family life is tragic and no sane individual should do it.  (I have never run for public office and probably never will, so mine is the public interest, not self interest.)

      Yes, we have the capacity, all of us, to improve the quality of those in public life by stopping the rubbish line about expecting them to live to a standard we are not prepared to live ourselves. 

      I am the suburban father of two and know much more about “Peter’s of Kensington”, than “Ken’s of Kensington” so I don’t write in a spirited defense of gay clubs, but I do write in a spirited defense of my tolerant, diverse and modern city.  It’s time we all grew up and got our noses and our predjudices out of people’s, and politicians’, private lives.

    • Sealy says:

      01:28pm | 22/05/10

      Have you forgotten the school teacher who was sacked because she had nude photos published? And while an office mentor in a private business is free to have sex with their office junior, a teacher would be sacked if they had an affair with a seventeen year old student. Different jobs carry different expectations of social responsibility, and politicians, more than any other group in society, must be seen to have integrity - whether they do or not. The whole story is extremely grubby journalism, but no one who goes to Ken’s comes out squeaky clean. If David Campbell had been filmed by a journo kissing his gay lover on a private doorstep I don’t think the media frenzy would have been half as crazy. If I was David Campbell I would have resigned because I was ashamed of the deep embarrassment which his family must now be suffering - and my faceless electorate would be the last thing on my mind.

    • Chris says:

      06:35pm | 21/05/10

      Perhaps this is one of the reasons why we get complete wombles in politics: the unrelenting invasions of privacy they have to endure by virtue of their office.
      In the meantime, the talented people we need in politics are off employing their political skills in the private sector and making big money there. In private.
      Just a thought.

    • BTS says:

      07:13pm | 21/05/10

      Yesterday we hear from the media that the invasion of privacy was justified because the Minister was using his Ministerial car.

      Until it was discovered he could go anywhere he wanted in the vehicle.

      Today the reason has changed to the invasion of privacy was justified because the Minister presented himself as a ‘family man’.

      (A side note, are homosexuals not considered family people? What if they have or adopt kids?)

      People change their reasons for doing something to try and justify their actions.  It’s also a sign, that they themselves believe that they needed a stronger reason to justify their actions.  Guilt perhaps or damage control?

    • Caroline says:

      08:03pm | 21/05/10

      I have absolutely no interest in what MPs do in their own private time.

      What has happened is absolutely appalling.

      Where is the public interest? Are gay men less capable of performing their public duties? Using the ministerial car in a way he was entitled to? I think it is sick that you are interested in the private sex lives of politicians.

    • Felix says:

      08:47pm | 21/05/10

      The article is right in a couple of way. Firstly, if this politician USED his wife and family to sell his happy “family man” image to get votes, then he has deceived the voters and they have right to know about it as a consequence. He would not have used them in this way if he was an ethical person. Secondly, he used a taxpayer funded vehicle to drive to the gay sauna and wouldn’t have stayed in there for 2 hours if it was for just a sauna. David is right in saying the same level of controversy would have haunted him if he had walked into a brothel. Clearly the inference here is that he had an affair behind his wife’s back albeit a same-sex affair. That he has deceived his wife and the voters with this facade and that both matters are somehow supposed to be excusable because he may be gay is double standards. Those defending his actions because he may be “gay” are expecting double standards. They expect gay politicians to be given extra priveleges over and above heterosexual politicians. There are those politicians who are openly gay in various political parties and have not been subject to this sort of controversy.  They are open and honest about it.

    • acker says:

      08:58pm | 21/05/10

      I suppose it needs to be asked ..was it Jason Akermanis’s homo-erotic , homo sexual rant on the “Today Show” Thursday morning that prompted Channel 7 to run with this story on Thursday night as a response ? I notice Jason has over 400 replies to his story ...http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/stay-in-the-closet-jason-akermanis-tells-homosexuals/story-e6frf9ix-1225868871934

    • Tish says:

      09:29pm | 21/05/10

      I think this article is disingenuous. To judge someone’s private life based on what seven chooses to tell us in pursuit of a headline when he’s broken no laws is unfair. Who is to say that his sexuality is more to blame for traffic problems than the stress of his wife’s illness? That the taxpayer pays him is irrelevant as he wasn’t spending taxpayer funds. After all maybe he got a job in politics rather than a bank or a library or a caryard because he thought he could contribute something despite what our moral guardians in the media think of his sexuality. It’s easy to make judgements without knowing the full details of a situation. To protest that you have a moral right to do so is just gutter journalism.

    • Dingo says:

      10:09pm | 21/05/10

      Personally, I have no time for David Campbell based on his dismal performance as a Minister. However this story epitomises just how pathetic the so-called profession of journalism has become.

      Where were the “journalists” at channel seven when Campbell and his ALP cronies were busy running NSW into the ground - when they weren’t providing coverage of Carr et al in hard hats turning the first sod in soon to be cancelled grand infrastructure projects,  they were indulging in their love fest with Kevin Rudd.

      So, don’t expect any journalist in Australia to hold Rudd, Gillard, Swan or Albanese to account for their dismal performances in the roles they’re been elected to fulfill, but rest assured that if one of them or the family members takes drugs, is gay, or partakes in an orgy, we’ll be the first to know all the gory details, probably with some video footage (or re-creation if necessary). Unless of course they’re really drunk and can’t remember going to the strip joint.

      In the meantime, thanks to the current standard of journalism, we’ve all been alerted to the national security issues surrounding the opposition leader participating in an iron man event in SPEEDOS. Then again, how do we know it was an iron man contest when we didn’t have Kerry O’Brien to verbal Abbott into admitting whether or not he had eaten an “iron breakfast”, and if he hadn’t, could he still consider himself an iron man contestant.

    • Steve says:

      10:23pm | 21/05/10

      as a Cityrail employee Mr Campbell as Transport Minister was my former boss, this man and his Government have had no problem invading the privacy of Cityrail employees for the last 6 years through random urine testing for illicit drugs whilst refusing themselves to submit to the same policy, i know of many hard working employees who have been sacked for smoking a joint whilst on holidays ( cannabis has a detection window of 6 weeks ) because the Government has ruled they are a safety risk, i heard Mr Campbell say many times “the public have the right to know” when talking on this issue”, so don’t Cityrail employees also being members of the public have a right to know our teachers, hospital staff and politicians are also not partaking outside of work hours?

    • jfc says:

      10:53pm | 21/05/10

      All efforts to justify the media’s coverage of this story (or rather non-story) have the same initial appearance of logic, but that facade of reason collapses under even moderate scrutiny.  The test for whether this story was legitimate is whether the same story, but without the ‘gay’ issue would have been covered in the same way, if at all?  Had David Campbell attended a strip club or even a brothel, would Channel 7 have been there?  Absolutely not.  The media and anybody else for that matter are delusional if they honestly think politicians don’t attend such venues just as frequently as other members of society.  Why should we care if a politician attends such a venue on their own time?  The line about him using his government car is hilarious - all politicians use their government vehicles to attend private engagements.  This story was only covered because it involved a male politician attending a male sex venue.  This is yet another example of a large chunk of Australian society pretending not to discriminate against a certain group and making the most absurd arguments in order to avoid being tagged as what you actually are; be it discriminatory against homosexuals or being racist.  The “David Campbell is a public figure and therefore his private life is fair game” argument is just another version of “I’m not racist, but…”.  It seems our society has evolved from upfront discrimination to defining discrimination so narrowly that the crime today is not to be discriminatory, but to admit you’re discriminatory.  As long as you hide the discrimination behind arguments devoid of reason, all is forgiven.

    • Steve says:

      10:53pm | 21/05/10

      This is written by someone going by the name of “Punch”.

      Says it all really.

      It is about time we started to question the credentials of our media - a media who attempt to influence the way we vote.

      So where are their vested interests and why?

      Australia and Australians need to become far, far more questioning - and skeptical.

      What we do know is that if you place a pro Labor contribution on News Limited blogs it will not be re-produced but if the same person contributes that “Rudd is a dud” it will be re-produced.

      Proven fact.

      Try it - if this is not censored which it will be.

    • PeterinBrisbane says:

      11:14pm | 21/05/10

      You are quite wrong Penberthy and the people who conspired to interfere with the man’s private life are grubs.  So are those who support their view.

    • Robert of Rural SA says:

      11:47pm | 21/05/10

      To answer the ? ? ? in the head line, because he isn’t a NRL/AFL player, can beat their wives/girlfriends. get drunk, smash cars, take drugs but are shielded because they play football

    • George says:

      12:38am | 22/05/10

      Mr Penbarthy,

        I hope John Safran pays you a visit. I loved seeing Ray Martins reaction when he got some of his own treatment from John.

    • Tommy Hammond says:

      12:45am | 22/05/10

      My view on politicians right to privacy is that they are eager to give ours up that I don’t mind seeing them get a taste of their own medicine.  May seem harsh but I’m sick of having my privacy intruded and then being told its for my own good, so until politicians started taking our privacy seriously, no, they don’t deserve any entitlement to their own privacy.

    • DeeJay says:

      01:02am | 22/05/10

      I have absolutely no sympathy for David Campbell.  (1) He is a politician and he should have known he would be subjected to higher scrutiny than the average citizen (2) He is a man who has misrepresented himself to his wife, children, family and friends - how reprehensible that he CHOSE to do that (3) The most decent thing he did is resign as Transport Minister (4) The most decent thing he still can do is resign fromm public life.  I feel very sorry for his poor wife.  What sort of cancer is she recovering from?  I hope his sexual behaviour has not put her at any risk.  Anybody who condones what David Campbell has done is condoning duplicity and deceit.  David Campbell is a liar, a reprehensible liar who cannot and should not be trusted.  Zero tolerance for David Campbell.  I hope his wife and children come out of their shock with some real clarity about whether to stand by the man who has misled them for decades.  He has failed the integrity test.  He is a liar and a cheat and he will always be…

    • Christine J says:

      01:07am | 22/05/10

      If David Campbell were a female politician or female anything (s)he would be widely and ruthlessly condemned as a whore, bad mother and not fit for duty… Why should we have tolerance for this David Campbell - who overcompensates with this macho nonsense image.  If I were his wife I would definitely give him the backdoor divorce - as quickly as possible.  What an ugly mess - never mind his poor family; the real victims!!!

    • Tash Ross says:

      01:10am | 22/05/10

      Oh Please, spare me… When the Council of Civil liberties comes out you know there is a gay agenda being propogated…  David Campbell knew he was deceiving his loved ones and the contempt of those loved ones must have been obvious to people who knew his double life.  What I find sad, is not so much that he had a double life (his choice/his consequences) but that some questionable people seem to think that we live in a society that forces people to live a double life.  What a load of nonsense.  David Campbell is an adult who has made adult choices and has chosen to live a life of deceit.  As Shakespere says “what a tangled web we weave when we practice to deceive”.  Get out of public life David Campbell - you’re a waste of space!!!!!!

    • Bob Murray says:

      01:16am | 22/05/10

      Excuse me but while David Campbell may not have technically breached the law he has breached public.  trust by his decades of deception.  I am certain this is the last straw for Labor.  Now that premier has backtracked after her earlier comments that he (David) “misrepresented himself to his family” by living a lie she is now aware of the gay agenda and not wanting to lose the gay vote.  Sorry Labor - it’s over.  Labor will definitely lose the next election.  How much seedier can labor politics get?

    • Pablo says:

      02:17am | 22/05/10

      Why is it that he is not a family man? Yes, he and his wife obviously have some issues but that does not mean he does not love her, nor his children. And I am sure he loves her for being mother to his children as well. Just another tabloid journo pathetically trying to justify gutter standards. Journalists are THE most accountable mob in our society.

    • David says:

      02:59am | 22/05/10

      Integrity is important. David you present as a man with a nice smile. Are you? Before you are allowed to write articles which influence public opinion what rights do the public have to know if you are all that you appear to be?  You are writing about politics. In the interests of disclosure I want to know who you vote for. You are writing about sex I would like to know who you have had sex with. This information will help me place your writings in context.

    • Lakes Shore says:

      04:26am | 22/05/10

      This is all politically driven; a vain attempt by the media to justify it’s own existence. None of what has been said, gives any media outlet, permission to blatantly destroy a family. What any Minister, either Federal or State, does in their spare time, in their homes, is their business. Is the media trying to justify this rubbish because they have been caught out? This is no way, I could/would ever believe that any Australian could stoop this low, at the expense of destroying another family. I sincerely hope, that this does not come back and bite the media on the bum, for it will and it will bite hard!!!

    • Andrew says:

      05:12am | 22/05/10

      It is only the daffy desire the public has to mentally elevate normal human beings to supernormal status that creates such situations: how pathetically prone we are to think prime ministers shit marble. How hypocritical it is to demand a higher standard of behaviour than our own.

    • Tina says:

      07:10am | 22/05/10

      Excerpts from media code of ethics ...

      Many journalists work in private enterprise, but all have these public responsibilities. They scrutinise power, but also exercise it, and should be accountable. Accountability engenders trust. Without trust, journalists do not fulfil their public responsibilities. MEAA members engaged in journalism commit themselves to:
      Honesty
      Fairness
      Independence
      Respect for the rights of others

      Code of Ethics point 2:
      Do not place unnecessary emphasis on personal characteristics, including race, ethnicity, nationality, gender, age, sexual orientation, family relationships, religious belief, or physical or intellectual disability.

    • Nick says:

      07:20am | 22/05/10

      Penbo, with the greatest respect, this is pathetic. Seven practised a dirty and despicable form of gutter press ‘journalism’. It is beyond justification.

      There is no public ‘right to know’ about what a politician gets up to in his/her private life. Fine, if there was evidence that his sexual activities were impacting his performance in a professional capacity, there might well be a case for such a revelation. There is no such evidence. Seven haven’t even tried to make that case. Campbell may well have been an underperforming minister (it’s the NSW government—- who isn’t?), but there’s no connection between that and him visiting gay sex clubs. Rake him over the coals for what he does on the job, not off it.

      Two ancillary points:
      1/ There is a presumption that, somehow, because he portrayed himself as a loving family man, he has obviously lied to the public. But it is entirely plausible—- indeed, I think likely—- that Campbell loves his family very much. While he might not have been faithful to his wife, she may already have known about his sexuality. We simply do not know. Moreover, it is none of our business.
      2/ The argument that he misused his ministerial car is without basis. By all accounts, ministers are perfectly entitled to use their car in their own time, as they see fit. He broke no rules in this area. This makes sense: just like many senior business figures in the private sector, his vehicle becomes part of his remuneration package. Or do we seriously expect politicians to keep two cars: one for their job, and one for their personal time?

      Today Tonight and A Current Affair are bad enough. When this sort of exposé makes the 6pm news, it’s even more disgraceful. It is not ‘news’. It is the character assassination of a man who chose to keep his private life private. And now he’s lost his job because of it.

    • Dan says:

      07:02pm | 22/05/10

      Absolutely. Plus, on point 2, what if he decides to pick his kids up from school on the way back from work? Does he somehow switch cars? It’s absurd and it’s just completely petty.

    • Nicky says:

      07:22am | 22/05/10

      If the image projected by a politician or would be politician is misleading then the voting public have been defrauded and the citizen’s most valuable democratic asset, the right to vote, has been stolen.

      David is welcome to live whatever life he chooses. I don’t care about his private life.

      If he lies to his voters however, and he did, there is no torment in hell sufficient for as punishment for his deed. As loathsome as the tabloid press is, it is still far too mild a punishment for the likes of David Campbell.

      With respect to David Campbell’s record as a so called Transport Minister.

      Well let it be said that he faithfully discharged his duties to the corrupt Developer Cartel that owns the NSW Government, that he dutifully supported whatever his his Developer masters bid and that he did his best to hide in all manner of interesting places whenever he was required to do his duty for the people of NSW.

    • marley says:

      10:52am | 22/05/10

      So, tell me, why isn’t 7 going after the “corrupt Developer Cartel that owns the NSW Government?”  Isn’t that one heck of a lot more important to the people of NSW than this sad little story?

    • Tweed Heckler says:

      08:12am | 22/05/10

      Let’s not forget the grubby, extended persecution of the late John Marsden by Channel Seven.  The Campbell episode only adds to the catalogue of nasty media chicanery perpetrated by Seven against people whose private life has tabloid capital.  The claim that this network is not homophobic is very hard to sustain. 

      David Campbell had and has some personal issues yet to be resolved with his family.  As far as it is known, the question of his sexual preference and behaviour has not effected his performance as a Minister or MLA.  This story has nothing to do with the public interest.  It is merely sensationalist. slimy commercial media reporting at its worst.  Premier Keneally touched on a very salient point in her recent media interview about this matter: what kind of a society are we when one of our citizens feels the need to lead such a life as David?  The shrill cries of people like Bill Heffernan and Franca Arena over the last couple of decades regarding the private lives of members of the judiciary are just one example of how highly evolved we are in our acceptance of sexual difference and diversity.  The suggestion that we are a truly open and accepting society is a pretence. 

      The political demise of John Brogden as a consequence of atrocious media attack is another case in point - it resulted in his attempted suicide.  The ‘outing’ of a NSW Supreme Court Judge under parliamentary privilege by Franca Arena, then an MLC, arguably contributed to Mr Justice Yeldam’s suicide.  The risk of having blood on their hands does not seem to phase the commercial media.

      For one, I’d like to hear the views of retired Justice Michael Kirby on this issue: unquestionable, we would get wise, measured advice.

    • Renee says:

      09:14am | 22/05/10

      When you become a politician, you accept that public scrutiny goes along with the job.  It has to.  If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen, as Campbell has done.  If he was so concerned about his family and his reputation, he would have mustered up a bit of self-controlin the first place, except we don’t talk of terms like that any more, do we?

    • scorpio says:

      09:24am | 22/05/10

      He was accepted for a position in which he was elected by the people, if he wanted a private life he should have chosen something else. He is living a lie, certainly whatever people do in their bedroom is their own choice and subject to no one elses whims or fancies, however he chose a public job and has misrepresented himself to the people who voted for him and even worse he has lied to his family, this is not the type of person for public office. Its not about the Homosexuality its about the lies and deceit, who knows where it ends. It has been said you can trust a thief but you cant trust a lier

    • marley says:

      02:08pm | 22/05/10

      You assume he lied to his family.  Maybe yes, maybe no.  Did he lie to his constituents? I don’t know.  But I can’t think of too many politicians who haven’t lied, and about matters that actually have a direct impact on their constituents.

      Which is worse?  Having a confused sex life which doesn’t impact on your work as a politician, or being on the take from big business and/or developers, which does have an impact?  I’ll take the guy who lies about his sex life over the guy who lies about taking money from developers to approve a project, every time.

    • Bruce says:

      09:30am | 22/05/10

      Political figures leading secret lives leave themselves open to coercion and that impacts us all. Channel 7 was right to expose this individuals duplicity. If he had come out already, no problem, but acting this way he was a threat to the government and the people of NSW.

    • Paul says:

      10:00am | 22/05/10

      ‘Happily married with children’ is the way some of you chose to perceive it. It doesn’t mean you were conned in anyway and shouldn’t effect your vote. If I’m interviewing someone for a job I can’t ask if they’re gay or straight - it doesn’t come into it and ultimately has nothing to do with their capacity to work.

    • Geoff says:

      10:12am | 22/05/10

      Anyone in the public service is paid by taxpayers.
      Any highly paid public servant or department head makes decisions that affect our lives.  Same with Architects, City Planners, or anyone involved with dealing with the public in large numbers.
      Your sexuality and your decisions involving it is only one persons private business.
      This is just stalking at it’s worst.  Outing the guy was the most pathetic destructive invasion and exposure of this mans most private life.
      I don’t think anyone deserves this sort of behaviour and I’m sure you and I and most Australians wouldn’t welcome it.

    • LFG says:

      10:14am | 22/05/10

      I totally agree with David Penberthy and Channel 7. Campbell is a disgrace. If it were not for the media, governments would be full of sleaze-bags. Most politicians are aware of their duties and reponsibilities. Campbell is the worst of the worst. Even as an individual, Campbell has been acting in a completely unnatural, perveted manner. Homosexuality is not right just because an indulgent and self-destructive society thinks that any sort of behaviour is OK these days.

    • Chris says:

      11:09am | 22/05/10

      This is a load of rot and is typical of the gutter mentality that has become our media. I wonder if Channel 7 were stalking David Campbell or do they park outside every gay establishment every night instead of gathering news stories in a more honourable way.  Forget used car salesmen and lawyers - journalists are really the lowest of the low.

    • Harquebus says:

      11:25am | 22/05/10

      How is it that an editor can think that one person has more rights than another? This society is going backwards courtesy of mainstream media.

    • Jack says:

      11:28am | 22/05/10

      Just because someone puts their name on a ballot paper every four years doesn’t mean that they are somehow superhuman or puritan. They are still normal people with all the excesses, frailties, complications and vices of everyone else.

      It is a total nonsense to suggest that just because you are a politician, somehow there is a higher standard expected. A total crock. You keep pushing that line and you will keep getting the incompetent freaks we have now.

      If a politician goes to a brothel, so what?? How does it affect what he does?

      And all this, we pay for them, the taxpayer underlines everything- just smacks of envy. Politicians are lowly paid and have to put up with this gutter journalism stuff. Who cares if we pay for their car and salary? They are politicians- they deserve to have those luxuries- we voted for them.

      Sorry, Dave, but you lost me today, mate. Expected better from you.

    • Tim says:

      11:36am | 22/05/10

      More important issues need to be reported on, or even try a positive story for a change. Sensationalism is not the same when you have become conditioned by it. Sensationalism has suffered from overexposure.

      I know how he feels I have experimented with my own sexuality while living a heterosexual life, mainly single, and been caught out by “ex-friends”...Most intelligent people don’t give a rat’s arse. But there are fools in this world and their opinion counts aswell, too bad for me they use physical intimidation before any attempt at understanding and negotiation.

      A person should be judged on their actual contribution to their own lives and to society not by, perception…Many social issues would be resolved if en-masse together we succeeded in changing this.

      The ‘messenger’ IS the cause of pressure and the consequences resulting from a serious lack of nobility.

      If David Campbell commits suicide, channel 7 should be held accountable.

      Grow up and get outside, yourself.

    • Kev says:

      11:36am | 22/05/10

      What a weak article this is. You say he was a hopeless Minister but fail to mention that he oversaw the implementation of myzone last month which appeared flawless considering the operational complexity it involved.  He also implemented several operational reforms in Police but why bother focusing on facts when it is so much quicker and easier to sensationalise. I’ll never read anything you write again. As for Adam Walters and Channel 7, what can I say? tabloid trash is not descriptive enough. Australia is blessed to have a free press and that’s a freedom that needs to be cherished and respected but when it is abused like this we’ll end up getting the politicians and risk averse policies that are way below par. shame on channel 7 and shame on you.

    • Jon G says:

      11:40am | 22/05/10

      You mention four reasons why he is entitled to a lesser level of privacy. Anyone who has ever required a security clearance (all ADF members and many government employees and contractors) can give you a fifth. I have been asked a number of times about my sexual preference and proclivities, gambling habits, alcohol and drug consumption, as have referees on my behalf. The purpose is not to embarrass,  but to prevent a person being compromised by bribery or blackmail. This is even more important for a politician who wields enormous influence. I dismiss any suggestion of privacy for public figures who have such influence, unless there is evidence that they have disclosed potentially embarrassing information to appropriate agencies, and anyone else the information could affect.

    • David says:

      11:43am | 22/05/10

      David, this is woeful reporting. You should be ashamed to be involved with this story.
      The fact that some sleezebag was filming these men leaving the club from the back of a van, is sickening.
      Attacking this guy under the premise of misusing a government vehicle is a joke. No wonder most younger generation Australians find people like yourself and channel 7 to be old-hat, laughable excuses for media representation. You are dying breed, thank-god for social media.

    • RMS says:

      11:45am | 22/05/10

      Kristina says he’s welcome back. Could someone please explain to me, if his wife couldn’t trust him, why should I?

    • Linda says:

      12:23pm | 22/05/10

      His greatest sin was using a government car.  It wouldn’t have been so bad if he travelled in a private vehicle.

    • Blossom says:

      12:24pm | 22/05/10

      I am in N.S.W I don’t what disgusted me more, that this story was aired and hurt an innocent family or that a N.S.W Politician was in the spolight again.
      Personally my only concern is what they are doing to our state, they can bonk whoever they want after hours. But the way things are shaping up we seem to be getting a great variety of different types of sex scandles and I would making sure the animals in the zoo are locked up securly because that seems to be the only deviation missing out of Labors bag of tricks.
      I am not watching channel 7 because I think of the misery and pain that family went through. I am not homophobic, I belive each to own, that his concern not mine. But once again I keep thinking of that poor woman battling with cancer and I just feel disgusted with channel 7

    • Alan says:

      12:30pm | 22/05/10

      Why didn’t Campbell just say he couldn’t remember what happened but there was nothing you wouldn’t see in any Aussie pub yet told the mrs over cup of tea he’d been a bit of a goose?

      It’s not as if he travelled to NYC as the alternative government min for foreign affairs on taxpayers’ tab, got pissed out of his mind, visited a mob-tied sex club (and front for prostitutes) where women are paid to strip and perform simulated and real sex for money, in order to ingratiate himself with his companion.

    • Colin says:

      12:36pm | 22/05/10

      Channel 7 have done David Campbell’s family the biggest favor possible. This man has been living a lie for 20 years. How would you feel if your partner had been living a lie and frequenting sex parlours (gay or straight) for up to 20 years behind your back. This is not a family man as the media is now trying to portray. This man is lower than a snakes belly. If he never had the honesty to face his family how could we ever trust him as a politician. No doubt his failure to comeout was driven by concerns on how it would effect his political career than any concerns he may have had for his family. The best and only honest thing he ever could have done for his family was to leave. Do not pity this man he has had the best of both worlds for too long. Not fit for any job let alone politics

    • Stefano says:

      12:55pm | 22/05/10

      Exellent oped David.  I think you are 100% correct.  However I would go even further.  The real scandal is that this man deceived his wife for 20 years.  This means that he is a person who must have lied on numerous occasions to cover up his secret.  The fact that he was a closet gay is inconsequential.  The real issue is that people who lie cannot be trusted.  Kristina Kenneally must think we are dumb, stupid, and ignorant if she wants us to think that this is news to her.  Give me a break.  She, with those other stellar liars, Tripodi and Obeid, elevated Campbell to a position of trust.  He was a Minister of the Crown, and he treated the Crown with contempt.  Channel 7 should be congratulated for highliting yet again, another monumental train wreck within this pathetic excuse of a government.  As soon as the Liberals win government, there should be a royal commission into the mechinations of the ALP, and all persons who have abused their positions of power should be charged.

    • mal says:

      01:31pm | 22/05/10

      The way channel 7 went about this is pretty wrong. That being said this needed to be brought to public attention. The minister was in a previlidge position that would have been suseptable to black mail - as he was keeping this double life a secret from his family. Additionally if he is prepare to deceive his family - the ones he loves most - what is he prepare to do when put into a difficult position in the work environment. His integrity has been shot to pieces.

    • JOhn says:

      01:41pm | 22/05/10

      People who support what Channel 7 did, do so becauses it taps into their homophobia and confirms their thinking that gay men are reckless, sleazy and can’t be trusted. The misuse of a ministerial car has shown to be false yet this is what led the original story. The issue of family values is wrong. Campbell never campaigned on a platform of family values so there is no lie there related to his political life.  He is a loving husband and father and is allowed to be proud of his family, hence, the photo in the christmas cards. The argument that he was at risk for blackmail when he was police minister is based on a hypothetical in the past tense. It’s an absurd argument and means we should be following every former police minister around with a camera to see what they get up to.

    • CJ says:

      01:53pm | 22/05/10

      It’s simple, he lived a lie. If he lived a lie, can he be trusted to run a major ministerial portfolio honestly? Not in my mind. He was quite happy to promote himself as one thing in order to help him get elected. Now it is finally on the public record that that image of his life was fiction. To be honest, I’m thankful that we finally get to see the back of him as a minister. He was incompetent and wasted massive amounts of public money through his incompetence. He was in way over his depth. How many more labor members of state parliament will suffer the same fate before the entire party gets trashed at the next election? If only the liberals hadn’t put that idiot Debnam into the leadership of the party before the last election, they would have been in power now and none of this would have happened.

    • Mick says:

      02:42pm | 22/05/10

      Bruce says “If he had come out already, no problem”
      Well there is a reason why so many Gay or Bi-Sexual men don’t come out and that is because of societies attitude towards gay and bi-sexual men. Society is more acceptable towards 2 women than it is to 2 men having sex. Thankfully not all of society are bigots but there is a large percentage that still is and always will be. That is the real sad thing about this.

    • Lesley Kilroy says:

      03:37pm | 22/05/10

      That’s bullshit Davis has as much right as everyone else for privacy. I have no time for Bath & Walters and channel 7. Low scum reporting

    • Labor is bad says:

      04:06pm | 22/05/10

      NSW Labor, Federal Labor government, PM Rudd, Ministers Campbell/Roxon/Garrett all leave a slimy, sick aftertaste after being in government. Yuck!

    • Lester says:

      04:39pm | 22/05/10

      The bottom line has not been addressed in this debate!  The overwhelming evidence (psychiatric and psychological) is that anything that anyone does in private life inevitably affects that individual’s public behaviour/performance/judgement for better or worse and vice versa!!! Unfortunately many people in responsible occupations are in misguided denial about this fact of life!  Numerous workers compensation cases ,successful and failed, feature this truism!

    • Andrew says:

      04:43pm | 22/05/10

      yes i agree politicians need to be held to a higher standard and scrutiny than the rest of us, but this was too far. firstly, it has been proven that he was not attending the venue on the night of the F3, one of the reasons ch 7 felt is necessary to publish this. Second, ch 7 didnt know any details about his marriage before posting this. they assumed his wife did not know. while it is almost always the case, it is not a given his wife would have known. ch 7 (and the daily telegraph yesterday mind you) claimed that he had done the wrong thing by using his ministerial car to drive himself there. ch7 have backed away from this claim now and are sticking the with public image bs real image story for publishing. There is no rule against using his car for this purpose. it was not during his work time. it was during his personal time. he was not drunk. did not break the law. excused his driver.
      he , as a politician should be scrutinised more but this was over the line and no one deserves this kind of treatment, to imply otherwise is shameful. ch7 deserve everything they get. it was a disgrace and a sad indightment on the state of the australian media.

    • Jean says:

      06:29pm | 22/05/10

      Gay meeting saunas are as sleazy as it gets. One step above a public toilet. Its nothing to do with homophobia, its the same as any other minister went to a brothel.  The man thought he was above scrutiny to be that indiscete in his person life. Thats what happen when power goes to peoples heads.

    • Peter says:

      06:54pm | 22/05/10

      David, sorry I am going to disagree with you. I like journo’s but sometimes they can come up with any excuse to breach someone’s privacy. There was no suggestion this man was performing poorly because of this. I think the issue of NSW’s poor government and this man’s private life are two seperate matters. No one has a right to out someone before their time, these are complicated issues and im sure most journo’s appreciate this.

    • shelley mcdonald says:

      08:50pm | 22/05/10

      i am so sorry for this man - and his family - and i am disgusted at the levels that journailsts seem to be sinking to these days…... there is no integrity in the media anymore - no standards either…. what a horrible profession….... to say it is inteh public interest is a cop-out of the highest order…...

    • jj says:

      09:22pm | 22/05/10

      I would like to see this kind of scrutiny turned to the reporters who follow these ppl just to see if they have the right to throw stones!!!

    • Jonathon Troy says:

      09:45pm | 22/05/10

      Politicians are not the only ones who’s ” entire existence is underwritten by the taxpaying public”. We could add public servants and judges and of course the police.
      These people lead lives that are average and common as everyone else.
      I feel that there is a danger that “journalists” will claim they have less of a right to privacy because they happen to draw a pay cheque for their services from the government.
      For the record Campbell’s life is more information than we required. His activities involved consenting adults. He used a car that came as part part of his salary packg.
      Media watch (you know your friends Penbo) will have a feast on this information.

    • Sue says:

      09:46pm | 22/05/10

      The public having a right to know is a far cry from the sensationalist rubbish channel 7 has been peddling this week.  If the double life made him vulnerable to manipulation or blackmail that’s one thing, but there are ways to expose what needs to be exposed. The way this was handled was disgusting. As others have said, is there no gutter too deep for our media these days?

    • Fed up says:

      10:40pm | 22/05/10

      I haven’t discussed this matter at all because I think one’s life is what they’d like to do. If it is not illegal I don’t care…but there are one issue in this story that is uncomfortable to me. One is that a man is happy to parade his family around as a paragon of virtue and at night go to a gay bar behind their back. That is not on. The duplicity and lies are not ok. I would much rather have a great gay politician than one who actually pretends to be heterosexual and is something he is not….
      If he was a doctor, architect, whatever…He would not have the public interest in his life which he now has. Instead he is a Pollie who has used his family life to present a family man background. I don’t really care that he is gay. But I care that he treats his electorate to his lies. There is no need for that right now.
      In the end this is a minor story. He is gone and he should. Not because he is gay, but because he is pretty bad at what he does. Yet he continues to be a MP, and probably would be reelected, which would prove to him that we are not narrow-minded as he might suppose we are. That is what his lies suggest. An that is what bothers me.
      Now is it possible for the NSW politics to become better? Is it possible for the people to be treated with more respect from their political class?? It is really asking too much??

    • Teri says:

      10:41pm | 22/05/10

      I believe that politicians should be charged on how well they perform in their job and not what they do privately.I find this incredible that an ordinary citizen can be gay, go to a brothel, watch porn etc, but a politician has to resign when the media discovers he visited a gay club. If he doesn’t do well in his job, he needs to resign. People he represents will judge.  I do not believe it is in the interest of the public that the media charges people on their sexual preferences.

    • Laurie says:

      10:48pm | 22/05/10

      The arguments advanced for the reporting of the the parliamentarians private actions appears to me to be useful.

      The most compelling arguments advanced appear to be those focussed on:
      1. The inconsistency between his personal commitments and his private behaviour, and the apparent flexibility around important commitments his acceptance of the inconsistency suggests may that he may have for his behaviour as a public officer.
      2. The values of the officer as portayed by his behaviour may be different to the understanding had, however formed, by his electors.

      While we are attracted to the story for obvious reasons it seems that our reaction is not inconsistent to that recently accorded to another parliamentarian in less challenging (for reasons of commerce and gender) circumstances.

      For any public servant to be considered of deserving the same treatment (your argument 1) there would seem to be an acceptance that no one is entitled to any privacy or right of redress in respect of the evidence gathering activities of the media.

      The vulnerability of a public officer created by his behaviour, or the risk to the public posed by a senior officer (your argument 2) merits being addressed however there are methods established for addressing them other than immediate public reporting.

      The “ends justifies the means” (your argument 4) suggests that we should “out” the officer because of our general dissatisfaction with the sitting government. I hope that you have not intended this interpretation.

    • bryan says:

      11:19pm | 22/05/10

      Who cares who he roots it the fact he has rooted his portflio that upsets me.

    • Roland says:

      11:56pm | 22/05/10

      For those who are ignorant, it is perfectly possible to have a loving relationship and a happy marriage, yet still need the occasional gay experience. It’s called being bisexual, an orientation that is much more common than many would have you believe.
      A sexual liaison carries an implicit privacy contract. Unless there is some criminal behaviour involved, it should be an offence to break that contract without the explicit permission of both parties.

    • non judgemental says:

      01:51am | 23/05/10

      I feel sorry for the bloke.

      The only issue I feel sad about is that in this society, he felt he couldn’t be who he was.

    • jim says:

      09:15am | 23/05/10

      For all those who say that Campbell’s chronic gay infidelity is irrelevant, are there any personal actions and habits which you feel do or could or likely would impact on a person’s public life?  One issue already raised is the potential for blackmail, or merely bias and favours for those whom the politician wants to help keep his or her secret.  Would you not change your vote if your chosen or preferred candidate for PM was holding or attending partner swapping parties and orgies every couple of weeks and regularly attended swingers clubs and resorts?  You don’t think that says anything against the politicians character, discernment, moral fibre and suitability for office?  The PM can have a regular session with a madame or hustler to indulge various bizarre sexual fettishes, no problem??  In the Lodge for greater privacy?  Is there any threshold you think should not be crossed?  No act indicative of a potential character flaw that matters so long as it remains vaguley legal and only done in private?
      The issue isn’t whether there is a personal, private moral threshold that we won’t accept in our politicians and community leaders.  So any politician can have unlimited sex with 16 year olds of either sex as often as he or she wants, married or single, and be considered normal and fit to hold office??  Anyone who claims there is no threshold or private morality that is acceptable for our politicians is being disingenuous or dishonest.  The question is not is there a threshold, but what is the threshold, and can it be defined for enough people to call it a moral expectation.

    • marley says:

      03:56pm | 23/05/10

      Well, there’s a legal threshhold, obviously, which this guy didn’t contravene.  A moral threshold - maybe - but frankly, I’d be a lot happier with politicians who had questionable moral values and upright financial ones, than the other way around.

    • bill says:

      08:37pm | 23/05/10

      Of course, we don’t know what moral thresholds he has crossed over the years.  His exploits, frequency, age of partners, whether he used prostitutes, whether he was unfaithful to his wife with females as well as males, duraation if infidelity, are unknown…......

    • Vin says:

      09:29am | 23/05/10

      David, absolutely right your report, not buts or perhaps clauses or excuses with your points. Now , apart of what you wonderfully described, it’s the fact that the Guy lied not only to his constituents but he lied to the written law which states in any document signed in Australia, you might be prosecuted for not telling the truth & that action here, was hided for 20 years, it is a clear example violating the law. Now, because still embedded, in the Australian culture, its roots of Convict & Soldier society, which ended in 1904, where in those times no matter what horrendous thing would happened nobody would DOB anybody, nowadays, still very enforced in its society the same, you don’t DOB nobody sort of thing. Add to that, the fact that the commies (Labor worshippers), don’t have dignity & principles, a lie for commies it’s in their DNA; for them, one of his mate lies its okay but not okay for the opposition. Example, Abbott suggested politicians might say something extra in the heat of a discussion, Labor heralded his comments & labelled him as a liar, but the big lie done by the Minister its not a lie but a treason, a coward action done by a reporter, who did not have any sympathy & did not respected the Minister’s privacy, Labor Minister who was entitle to lie all the way along at all times for 20 years and that suggestion its sucks.

    • jim says:

      09:30am | 23/05/10

      Politics and personal morality:
      (1) Sometimes the media and public happily accept the public facade of a politician, and may even help create a larger-than-life fake personna.  We may admire and verbalise this aspect concerning current politicians or great figures from the past.  History is kind to some, whose mistakes and defects become glossed over. Yet for others the media and individuals or society at large will do all they can to destroy the mask.  For some we demand transparency. Sometimes success follows a degree of ruthlessness that may be accepted if certain political niceties are outwardly espoused for political correctness. We accept arrogance and egotistical behaviour from some personalities but not others.  Flaws are even admired in some as they may appear more appealingly human despite their lofty ability, yet others can’t get away with similar blemishes.

      Would Tiger Woods-type behaviour be acceptable for a minor politician, but not for a Police Minister, Premier, Treasurer or Prime Minister?  Would past cheating on tax or in personal business deals be accepted if the person could assure us he or she was always honest in public life? Does regular deceit in one walk of life imply a character flaw that perhaps says that person may be more likely to lie or cheat or bend the truth in other areas like political life or public employment?  It seems at times that personal sins in politicians are “acceptable” or ignored so long as things are going well for us pesonally or the economy and national affairs in general.

    • jim says:

      09:30am | 23/05/10

      (2)Are we all so flawed that “anything goes” in politicians personal behaviour provided they get results?  Obviously not, but the line we draw is not fixed or even clearly definable.  We’ll sometimes accept that personal transgressions are off the public record and not relevant.  An affable, likeable, attractive personality can get away with things an austere or less agreeable politician can’t.  The talented and winners can get away with more than those who are struggling politically.  If the public “needs” the polticician or leader, such as in times of crisis or war, then personal foibles will be more readily forgiven. We may turn a blind eye to known wheelers and dealers who have murky morals but who are achievers until misdeeds are made so public that we become affronted by them.  We are tougher on women than men, and easier on those following an agenda we agree with.  We may expect more of those from different racial groups or perceived lower social class.  Sometimes the public expect more of those of declared religious belief who make a point of aspiring to a high moral ground.  We may be tough on those who preach morality along the way.  Sometimes we’ll be strangely forgiving of fallen moral campaigners for at least trying to have goals, even if they can’t live up to them.  Others will be brought down.

    • jim says:

      09:33am | 23/05/10

      (3)We expect that all politicians use the truth at times in a very rubbery way such that we recognise anything goes up to an unclear limit. They all use “white lies” and linguistic tricks to justify deceit under utilitarian concepts of acting for a greater good, often with an “I know best what the community needs” attitude.  Partly it is just an “everyone does it” attitude that such twisting of the truth is part of the game of politics. They may feel the need to get things done any way they can, even if it means being untruthful here and there along the way.  If that means having to help lobby groups or others who can “scratch their back” and help their agenda, so be it. Personal gain along the way be it financial, social or political may seem totally justified.  The end result may require doing deals. Isn’t being beholden to others due to patronage just par for the course?  We expect a (an inconsistent) level or morality from politicians and community leaders, but also demand and reward results.  We don’t always get both.

    • Mel says:

      10:54am | 23/05/10

      In one way I can see your point. I wouldn’t want to vote for someone who used prostitutes for example because I think that behaviour is exploitative and unethical, so it’s something I would appreciate knowing before I voted for someone. However, I disagree in this case specifically because being gay is not a crime and I can understand how difficult it can be for people to ‘come out’. If society were not still so judgemental of gays and lesbians then people wouldn’t need to lie, cheat and sneak around on their families or be forced to live the lie of ‘family life’ in the first place. I have empathy for both Campbell and his family for that reason and I think the media could have thought more critically on that aspect before they indulged themselves in sensationalist, money-grabbing ‘journalism’.

    • Greg says:

      10:57am | 23/05/10

      There would be a story if there was misuse of the government car - there was not.
      There would be a story if there was proof that Mr Campbell’s closet life had compromised his ability to perform his public duties - there was none.
      There would be a story if Mr Campbell was a campaigner for moral values - he wasn’t
      There might be a story if Mr Campbell used his public profile for personal gain - no evidence of that
      So what we are left with is no demonstrable element of the story “being in the public interest”
      What we have is a story that the public was no doubt interested in, and made headlines.
      What we have is behaviour that by anyone else but a “journalist” would constitute stalking.
      What we have is again the sorry excuse that a public figure forfeits a right to a private life, the moral principle created by the media to excuse their incursions into the life of public figures and celebrities.
      What we have is the unproven principle that the actions of a person in public life can, and should, be judged by their actions in their private life, in the absence of any proof that this is so. Mr Campbell may have been a poor performer, incompetent even, but is there any proof that he was dishonest, corrupt or misrepresented his electorate?

      This story is all about the sizzle, but there is no steak. There is no proof of behaviour to link the closeted lifestyle to performance of public duties. There is no newsworthy element to this story by any test of reasonable standards.

      If politicians are purported to be accountable to such high standards, what is to be said of the journalists who, in effect, sit in judgement of public figures? What do we know of their standards of decency, honesty, integrity and impartiality? Surely this is of greater importance than the moral behaviours of public figures.

      Mr Penberthy - what are your credentials to sit and judge people and make moral pronouncements? Are you up to rigorous examination and scrutiny?

    • Roland says:

      09:23pm | 23/05/10

      You have a point there, Greg. Maybe he could have the journalist charged with stalking, as that is obviously what happened.
      What would be wrong with bringing such a charge? It is solely the stalking behaviour of the journalist that produced the photo and the story. The Minister has committed no crime.
      The journalist has. And if he hasn’t, then the law should be changed.

    • Tony says:

      10:58am | 23/05/10

      “Ken’s Sauna & Gym” at Kensington could never afforded such business generating publicity.

    • Keeper of the Crystals says:

      11:02am | 23/05/10

      Unfortunatey, this just goes to show that a reporter of whatever persuasion who has a touch of the vitriole, can do untold, uncalled for damage to whomever they chose. The fact that Mr Campbell appeared to have a happy family lifestyle is all that should have mattered. For all the rabid reporter knew, his wfe may well have been aware of his other lifestyle. Why then, should this rabid reporter go to great lengths to publicize the issue.  There are some boundaries that should not be crossed and to my mind the Channel 7 reporter overstepped that boundary. Everyone should have the right to their privacy. If said reporter found that an executive of Channel 7 entered the premises whilst he was filming the location, how much publicity would that get? Self protection!!!! Take a look in the mirror sunshine.

    • Maddi says:

      11:28am | 23/05/10

      If you think politicians give away their rights to privacy when they go into the game what do you think about a website being invented that is a register for all people involved in public politics including journalists, writers, lecturers, columnists too?  Don’t you think it might be in the “public interest” to know their particular sexual gender (there is a wide variety of choices these days especially if you take into account any sexual fetishes), who their partners are/were and what they do, their drug and drinking habits, where they hang out with friends after work and most importantly what their views are on the price of fish in Russia or of rice in China.

      I’ve heard a juicy rumour recently about a tv personality who has overcome a coke habit and it seems to be general knowledge around town amongst still struggling fellow buyers - are the newsroom holding off on that footage and story until the personality really and truly falls from grace?  Of course it’s no-one’s business or right to make it public.  Interesting times we live in.

    • James says:

      11:31am | 23/05/10

      I can’t believe some of the responses to this issue of adultery. The bloke has a responsibility to the people who pay him. He has a responsibility to his wife and his kids and he decides despite all the benefits that he gets that he will show his adulterous side. Twenty years of deceit.

      That’s what we’ve got from the ALP. There are decent people who can do just as good a job or even better. How can someone like this make the had calls for instance how could he make a call on Orkopolous criminal acts when he is caught behind his own dirty life of adultery. Campbell should have resigned when he knew he was deceiving his family but he was too greedy and power hungry. There would have been a heap of honest people to take his place.

      How many other people are there in p[olitics doing the same thing. If the ALP is so pro-gay then all the rest of the gay politicians should stand up in parliament and make themselves known.

    • Dan says:

      02:27pm | 23/05/10

      ‘how could he make a call on Orkopolous criminal acts when he is caught behind his own dirty life of adultery’

      I don’t recall adultery being illegal. It may be immoral or unethical, but it’s not criminal and as such he is perfectly capable of making the hard calls.

      As for his wife and kids, this is between him and his family. Unless it directly impacts upon his job, or reveals a hypocricy, I think it’s completely irrelevent whether he’s committed adultery or not.

    • Macon Paine says:

      03:34pm | 23/05/10

      “Twenty years of deceit.”
      Well its been 15 appaling years of deceit by NSW Labor so far…..
      “If the ALP is so pro-gay then all the rest of the gay politicians should stand up in parliament and make themselves known. “
      Interesting idea and it would a great coup for any political party to do this, wont happen though.

      @ Dan
      FYI Milton Orkopolous is a convicted pedophile.
      http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/ex-mp-orkopoulos-gets-hefty-jail-term/story-e6frg6o6-1111116402531

    • James says:

      06:35pm | 23/05/10

      Politics has a bad reputation because of bad ethics like adultery and pedophilia and shredding evidence in criminal investigations.
      If I knew he was an adulterer I would have taken up my choice and not voted for him.

      Unlike some others I am a tax payer that pays for his super and perks. I want to know if he picks his nose or scratches his butt before I vote for him.

      As for his right to privacy, he should have thought of that before he went into politics. If you don’t want to know about his private life that’s your choice, but there are many of us that want to know about his private life.

      Moral life has a good connection to legal life.

    • Dan says:

      08:04pm | 23/05/10

      Sigh. Yes, Paine, I know that Orkopolous is a convicted pedophile. How does that contradict what I said?! Perhaps you could try reading what people write for once?

    • Macon Paine says:

      09:26am | 24/05/10

      Ugh! No worries Same just making sure your aware of it.
      Dont be so defensive all the time. Oh and enjoy your soy latte.
      Cheers!

    • Kenneth says:

      11:52am | 23/05/10

      I think its funny that there is an actual place called ‘Ken’s’. Any place called Ken’s has got to be dodgy. What next? Gary’s?

    • roy says:

      05:06pm | 23/05/10

      Couldent have said it better

    • Linda Campbell says:

      05:43pm | 23/05/10

      David Penberthy, you are absolutely right in saying that politicians are not accorded the same level of privacy as the rest of us nor should they be.  As politicians they are subject to ongoing scrutiny - that comes with the job.  David Campbell is no different to any other politician.  Why should he get special treatment.  Chanell 7 were right to expose the man for what he is; a man leading a tragic double life, misleading his family, friends and the general public with an image he has carefully cultivated to cover up his secret life.  What I am vermently opposed to is these stupid politicians who are too scared to say an unsupportive comment about David Campbell in case they lose the ‘Gay Vote’.  How pathetic.  David Campbell has deceived everybody.  In the end, he even deceived himself.  Please quite making this David Campbell a matyr.  He is an adult and fully responsible for his “choices” and their consequences.  No sympathy for David Campbell whatsoever - only his poor family!

    • Brett L says:

      06:44pm | 23/05/10

      The biggest discrimination tool is not gay, black, white, muslim, or jewish. The biggest prejudice/discrimination tool is perfectly PC. It’s wealth: poor VS rich. We can legally and proudly separate people based on money. poor to the rear, rich to the front. Funny thing is, the majority are in the poor class, so who is holding the reign’s on this?  The rest is a diversion, the real issue is wealth distribution.

    • Jessie says:

      10:22pm | 23/05/10

      Are you KIDDING? Anybody who thinks they needed to know this are nosy busybodies, that simple. Case closed.
      There is a world of difference between something the public NEEDS to know and something they just WANT to know because they are gossip mongers.
      If the things he is doing in his public life affect his ability to do his job, then AND ONLY THEN should we hear boo about it.
      What a joke some of you disgusting, self entitled people are.

    • Jozef Goj says:

      10:40pm | 23/05/10

      It’s not the sex scandals that are so important as the fact that media and readers consider the double standards used by these persons to be a reflection of their working capabilities. We already know the type of thing with the latest Abbot release of ‘pork pies’ when not scripted!
      We expect a high standard and should be entitled to have it. When moral crusaders are found flagrenti delecto, caught in the act, it shows their followers for the fools they are. Of more concern is the scandal that this minister is and was considered to be ineffective. The F3 debacle just an example. Of greater scandal is that this Minister and Premier along with others in the past ignore a remedy that the public have been clamouring for for years. A solution to the traffic jams congestion and gridlock occurring in our cities every day. That solution, Liquid Flow, traffic which once again was sent to the current Premier some 6 weeks ago, was responded to with a few lines and referred to the Transport Minister who had a copy of the letter anyway and who will now never respond.  The Telegraph would have this letter in its news file if it has not been deleted. So now once again Liquid Flow has to be started again, with the usual delays in communication, while the commuter continues to rage against the inefficiency of government department s that are unable and do not have the technology or foresight to see not just a solution to the problems of jams gridlock and congest but the only possible and logical solution. The commuter with this solution will be more than happy to drive in free flow traffic never stopping at a single intersection and laugh when hearing on the radio of the latest sex scandals of the latest politician caught with his pants down!

    • blob says:

      11:13pm | 23/05/10

      When I vote I like to know who I’m voting for. Like many voters I’m less likely to vote for a homosexual so I want that information. It is as a democratic right to judge a candidate on who they are and am offended that journalists, politicians and letter writers feel they can decide what I should and shouldn’t be allowed to know. A lot of people think this is outragous stuff but it’s called democracy.

    • Luke says:

      03:55pm | 25/05/10

      Where does it stop?  What about his democratic right to privacy?

    • PM says:

      12:18am | 24/05/10

      “It will probably sound disingenuous but I feel sympathy and pity for Campbell; his private life has been rendered a mess by his inability to reconcile his sexuality, and he has paid an enormous price as what he did is in no way corrupt or criminal.”

      How do you know he has been “unable to reconcile his sexuality”? How he feels about his sexuality and what his wife, possible other partners and family knew are none of our business - no matter what your other arguments are.

    • 'gonger says:

      12:33am | 24/05/10

      Thank you Channel 7 for ‘outing’ some truths to the Wollongong constituents.  I don’t feel sorry for a Minister listed to own around 8 properties yet has to have his own mother living in a [reasonably new] NSW Dept of Housing unit.  I feel more sorry for the many genuinely needy families who have been on the Housing Dept waiting list for decades.

    • Roland says:

      01:00am | 24/05/10

      In such a sexualized society it surprises me that such a big deal is made of sexual indiscretions. Most people have made them.
      Nobody should be able to be blackmailed for such behaviour. We need to take a more relaxed view of the whole sex thing.

      Bill Clinton was not impeached because Monica gave him a head-job. It was because he lied about it to Congress, as they knew he would, as they know everybody does. It seems natural for people to lie in one way or another when “caught out” in such circumstances. The want to cover up, to minimize, BECAUSE such a big deal is made of it.

      However, if we took a more relaxed, mature view of such things….if people could just say,“Oops, sorry , Dear. Didn’t mean to hurt your feelings, but I know you will understand. Just thought I’d better tell you , as I’m going to be admitting to a head-job from Monica this afternoon.”

      If we could do that, then all this stuff about blackmail would evaporate. And more than that, most of the titillation would also disappear. If everyone could just say, “So what!” then it would all just become a big “So what!”

      Maybe we should work towards that.

    • fehowarth says:

      07:57am | 24/05/10

      We seem to be saying that only saints and perfect people are entitled to be politicans, especially if they are Labor.  This is frightening, as these people do not exist.  In this age of instant communications, little can be kept hidden.  We need to re-think what makes a politican.  They are entitled to a private life and the families should be off limits. The public is only entitled to know what affects their roles as politicans, Whether we like it or not, there are many different types of families structures.  Some we might not like, but that does not make them any less real.

    • jim says:

      08:34am | 24/05/10

      But would you vote for someone to be Premier or Prime Minister if otherwise the best candidate who acted in this way for 30 years and was going to continue to do so, lying along the way?  Perhaps someone who liked to have a Tiger Woods-like sex life on the side?  I’d bet not…..........
      JFK would not have been President had his daily infidelity often using paid prostitutes been publicly known…....

    • bill says:

      08:39am | 24/05/10

      Then again, the French and Italians seem less fussed about such things.  But the Italians accept a PM who is prepared to twist the truth and manipulate for personal gain and power.

    • GOliver says:

      09:25am | 24/05/10

      Blob why would you be any less prepared to vote for a homosexual if it was proven that he/she was the best person for the job.  Aren’t you cutting off your nose to spite your face?

    • blob says:

      06:15pm | 29/05/10

      If they are the best for the job I vote for them. The issue is what candidates have a right to keep private and what voters have a right to know. That said, I am conservative on social issues and a homosexual is less likely to represent me therefore sexuality is relevant information and I need to.  Being homosexual isn’t a crime but Campbell has decieved those who elected him.

    • Gavin Hines says:

      11:11am | 24/05/10

      We all to pause for thought on this, I think this is a perfect example of how manipulative the press can be. I am in N.S.W I won’t be voting for Labor but not because of this man and his poor wife but because I am not happy with the way they are running our state. I have no desire to watch channel 7 again, to me this is gutter jouralism

    • Jason says:

      11:41am | 24/05/10

      Im gay, and their are hundreds of Australian men just like David Campbell who are in the closet. Perhapes channel 7 should ask the question why? Perhapes its because they encourage homophobia though their news and programming which then encourages people like David Campbell to lie about who they are. Consertives want people to hide their sexuality as it allows them to be more prejudiced towards gays. thats the truth - they know it and we know it.

    • blob says:

      06:36pm | 29/05/10

      Doesn’t Bob Browns success as a politician show that it can be done? Shouldn’t Campbell be responsible to the voters for the decisions he has made? There are prejudiced heterosexuals and there are prejudiced homosexuals, but this story, grubby or not, needed to be told .

    • Just Me says:

      11:47am | 24/05/10

      I have no problem with David Campbell’s sexuality, but I do have a problem with him being a minister ,both Police and Transport ministers.He has left himself open to blackmail.  As a previous Police Minister, who knows what pressures he had placed on him by unsavory characters. As the Mayor of Wollongong some years ago,one wonders if he was placed in compromising situations ,especially as it was no secret to the union movement.

    • Infense says:

      11:55am | 24/05/10

      I think Penbo has the wrong end of the stick here. While an MP does have a ‘lesser right to privacy’ I do not see why this should have been made public - at least in the way it was. It is drawing a very a long bow to say it affects his ability to be an effective MP. If the MP in question was on a moral’s crusade then it could have public relevance in revealing hypocrisy and lack of credibility. Also it is probably best not to compare brothels with saunas. I am quite sure they are not the same thing.

    • Dave says:

      01:15pm | 24/05/10

      No matter how you try and justify it journalsim in this country has hit new lows. We are now on a par with the gutter press of England. Well done media. His private life is in no way shape or form of any relevance whatsoever unless he was at this place when he should have been working and it in some way hindered his performance in his job. If not then it is irrelevant and you people should be ashamed of your selves. Tabloid gutter press - disgusting.

    • Kate says:

      01:17pm | 24/05/10

      Penbo, you are spot on. Well within the public interest I say. The hetero spouse & kids as legitimising factor and vote winner is one thing, but when it’s all a sham, is galling.

    • Pablo says:

      08:06pm | 25/05/10

      Nice one Kate. I guess it isn’t private anymore that you are a bigot. We know that you will not vote for gays - but would you vote for an Asian or a muslim? Probably not, I reckon.

    • blob says:

      08:36am | 01/06/10

      Well said Kate. Pablo’s reply is typical - play the man and not the ball. Unlike Pablo I couldn’t tell you were a racist bigot from your reasonable comment, he must be a mind reader. Strange how bleeding heart progressives can be such nasty bullies.

    • hot tub political machine says:

      03:28pm | 24/05/10

      You know, in my profession, if I had brought as much disrepute upon the profession as channel 7 reporters have brought on journalism I would be facing censure from our professional body.

      But then again journalism is the only profession with decling rather than improving standards.

    • Graham The Great says:

      06:26pm | 24/05/10

      Open your eyes people, the reason is not because this man is gay, goes to gay bath houses or whatever, who cares, the reason is an elected member of a House of Parliament!  Whether it is or whether it isn’t for whatever reason his integrity is the issue!

    • Luke says:

      03:19pm | 25/05/10

      What a load of tripe!  It doesn’t matter what you do or who pays you, everyone is entitled to some form of privacy.  Campbell chose to engage in a legal, if not socially popular, activity that has nothing to do with the rest of us.  It is possible to have integrity, particularly political integrity and frequent gay clubs.  Where are the gay activists now? Too busy jumping all over Ackermanis I suspect.  Funny, but his sentiments have more of a ring of validity about them in light of this episode.

      This judgemental, ill informed finger pointing is out of control and very dangerous.  The only integrity that should be in question here is that of an ever hungry press and the so called ‘journalists’ who stalked the man to break the story.  Shame on them and I hope this doesn’t go any further than ruining the mans career.  Make no mistake it has the potential to do so much more.

 

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