WHY, all of a sudden, do we have to protect our kids from the reality that there are winners and losers in the world?

And its 870-all in the under 12s here on Saturday morning.

In junior soccer and Auskick, the modified AFL game for kids, they’re no longer keeping score. Individual performances are not recorded in the junior clubs’ match reports because, well, somebody always feels left out. 

There is no premiership ladder and if one side is being beaten too savagely, the game stops and players swap jerseys to even out the contest.

It works well for five-year-olds who struggle to remember which way they’re running, let alone how to get off a technically correct handball. The idea is that kids will only continue to play if they feel they’re making a contribution and it’s a plausible one for boys and girls up to the age of six or seven.

But when a 12 year old can’t be trusted to take a loss without turning to a life of drugs and crime, there is something seriously wrong.

The same polite mediocrity is being forced on parents on the sidelines. To its credit, junior soccer has taken to weeding out psycho parents with “Ssh!” days, during which they are required to make a cash donation every time they call out during a game.

But it’s gone too far at one Sydney club, where a colleague told me he had to pay $13 recently for a series of transgressions that included calling out “Go son” and other such profanities. He informs me that a respectful level of clapping is still allowed.

True, there are idiotic people who treat their kids’ Saturday soccer like a World Cup qualifier, but the majority of us like to think we can turn up with a coffee, have a yarn to the other parents and shout the odd word of encouragement without being carted off by the riot squad.

It’s not just in sport that we have taken it upon ourselves to spare kids the agony of losing. My seven-year-old daughter brought her report card home the other day. I say “card” but it looked more like a 457 immigration visa application.

There was page after page of waffle, with cutesy terns such as “working towards” and “showing promise.” If it wasn’t so obviously a form letter I’d have assumed my little girl was on the Fulbright shortlist.

The point is if you can’t identify a weakness – in football or mathematics – how do you expect a kid to improve? For every 10-year-old happy to be running around on a Saturday just for the fresh air, there is a kid whose three goals every week are being left out of the club records.

How does this system reward the boys and girls who spend their afternoons belting a soccer ball against the garage door while their opponents fill in the time before dinner on Guitar Hero?

“In this game, you are either first or last,” the great league coach Jack Gibson used to day. It doesn’t mean you stop competing if you come out on the wrong end of a 56-0 drubbing in a junior rugby league game. It means you work hard as a group to prevent it from happening next time.

Does winning or losing take the fun out of sport? It’s a stupid question, because there can be no sport without some level of competition. Take victory or defeat out of a contest and what you’re left with is a training session.

Let the kids have fun – but let’s not persist with this dopey philosophy that losing a game or having an off day with the boot is going to rob them of the chance of a normal life.

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    • Jonangel says:

      07:58am | 08/08/09

      This not only applys to children, it also applys to us!! Mediocrity is par for our modern society. To be different or outstanding is a social crime, you make others feel insecure.

    • David says:

      09:03am | 08/08/09

      Luke, you’re a big sook!

      This form of competition is used only at junior levels to encourage participation.

      Winning and losing IN SPORT at this age is NOT important.

      Let all the kids have a go and enjoy themselves, you great turnip!

      Those who clearly have talent can go on to serious competition later.

    • T.C. says:

      09:15am | 08/08/09

      What a sad world we live in when everything has to be homogenised, pasteurised, and completely bastardised, before we can see it in fear that we wouldn’t be able to cope with loss or knowing exactly how our children are faring at school.

      Maybe we should stop blaming the parents. Because the parents are being lied to by the government, whilst wrapping the kids in cotton wool.

    • coxie says:

      09:32am | 08/08/09

      David, to not know competition (in anything) at the earliest opportunity will only lead to destruction by being less fit-for-purpose, and for life, particularly, that principle begins from the time ‘we’ enter this world.

      If your principle is the Principal for life, it may help to explain to this doddery ol’ in-jin-ear’s observation that the attention span of (you?) youngsters is getting shorter, and shorter, by the second because y’all only want to have fun. Your premise that only those with talent “can go on to serious competition later” is hard to rationalize because they won’t know what’s serious, or not, because they only want to do things for fun.

      Turnips, by the way, are very good things, leaves and all so Luke, keep blogging, m8.

    • Simon says:

      10:48am | 08/08/09

      Tottaly agree. My son attends Auskick where I see first hand the ref and parents try to say look it was a draw. The kids are not stupid they know who has one. They then look confused and try to make sense of what just happened. They then watch a game on the weekend and see that if a team is winning its good. I try to instill in my children that yes u can loose. And they can take it quite well.

    • johnv_au says:

      11:02am | 08/08/09

      WOW are you people nuts or something? It’s a game, it makes them strong, it makes them think, it makes them appreciate team spirit, it gets them ready for the real world AND ITS FUN

      and yes they want to win they dont play to loose

    • Glen says:

      12:40pm | 08/08/09

      I also agree. I recently moved back from Singapore and my Son played under 6s over there in an expat league and it was great for his development and of course every week there was a winner and loser but now he plays in Brisbane in the 7s and its the same thing, no score, no winner or loser….all the kids (and parents) spend the whole game trying to remember the score and it is all the kids want to know. All I hear is “Whats the score Dad?” and “is that my second or third goal Dad?”
      Whoever said winning isn’t everything never won anything !!  smile

    • Jolanda Challita says:

      02:15pm | 08/08/09

      Kids want competition.  It is stupid adults who have the problem…...The worst thing is that these stupid adults think that the kids do not keep score when everybody knows that they do even if the adults wont?  Personally if people believe it is so important to take the competition out of kids sport then sporting clubs should run two streams - a competitve stream and a non compettive stream and give children choice and see how many register in what.  Same stupid mentality goes in school, for instance, in reading groups they don’t want to use a number or letter to identify groups because they say that they do not want those who are not i the high number to feel bad but the kids are not stupid they know who the best readers, writers, drawers and even sports kids are in their class/sports groups.  We are not protecting our kids from anything the only thing we are doing is insulting our kids intelligence.

    • watty says:

      02:21pm | 08/08/09

      It appears only “losers” oppose the concept of winners?

    • Spellcheck says:

      02:42pm | 08/08/09

      Can people please learn to spell basic words correctly.“Lose” is the opposite of “win”. “Loose” is the opposite of “tight”.

    • johnv_au says:

      02:45pm | 08/08/09

      hope your talking aussie rules Glen bring your under 7s over to perth and they can take on our under 12s we might get a win HA HA HA

    • Rob says:

      02:51pm | 08/08/09

      Thanks for highlighting this.
      It’s very sad when we try and shield kids from the real way of life.

      To say there are no winners or losers, when clearly there are, will artificially improve(or at least not decrease) the self esteem of kids who have a low self esteem, that’s great AT THE TIME OF THE GAME.

      But as soon as something happens in real life that will effect their self esteem they wont know whats going on, and these games will have a negative effect on them.

      It will also add to any apathy they already feel about results in any area, not just sport.

      What next, the evening out of school results?  Will every kid get “Satisfactory” marks in every subject even when their school work is unsatisfactory or excellent?

      Where’s the incentive to improve, or even to do their best?

      That’s what it used to be about, and still should be about, doing your best - whether you win or lose - but why bother if your efforts will have no effect on the results.

    • johnv_au says:

      07:58pm | 08/08/09

      i honestly think the comments are going too deep - kids will lose one and win another they know that, and as for education why do parents want to send their kids to the best schools when we know a kid will do well if whatever school they go to as long as they have support at home? lighten up, its games or will we have to ban competition altogether

    • Sam says:

      04:15am | 09/08/09

      People seem to have taken the “It doesn’t matter if you win or loose as long as you have fun” motto the wrong way.

      It should be interpreted as “get out there, try to do your best and win, if you don’t, no biggie as long as you had fun”

      where its being taken as “No one should win or loose, and just have fun”

      I played cricket in my younger days from the age of 8 to 16 and my teams were never the best, from sh*thouse to medicore.

      Gotta say, we always had a good time, and the majority of the time, we had bigger grins then the other team at the end of the game cause we had a genuinely good time out there.

      Scores were still kept, we all got our battle/bowling/fielding averages at the end of the season and have a good time.

      I dunno….. kids/parents/society these days…..

    • Emma says:

      12:16pm | 09/08/09

      It all starts with pass the parcel where evey child gets a similar prize, and flows on from there.

    • cat says:

      02:59pm | 09/08/09

      What really annoys me is that they don’t keep obvious scores for the u13’s and down in footy or cricket, but they do in netball, hockey etc…The score is never printed in the local papers! They keep cricket scores in a book, which the kids are continually running up to check.
      Kids are naturally competitive & it’s generally a good thing - it’s the over-competitive parents that are the problem (whether there kids win or lose). Oh my goodness I just said the ‘L’ word!

    • brissieMum says:

      08:31am | 10/08/09

      Hi Luke,
      My son is in his fifth club season of junior AFL and it is only now that winning and losing scores are becoming important to the kids- U11.

      Before this it has been all about having fun, in fact the AFL has a DVD most parents and kids view called - “We’re not playing for sheepstations” which emphasises this principle.

      From age U12 and upwards the competition becomes more serious. Club teams have grading matches at the beginning of the season - Grades 1-5 - as well as a competition ladder.

      With childhood obesity becoming such a problem its great the AFL is providing programs and competitions which encourage participation on a fun level which leaves no player excluded, prior to introducing kids to the “win at all cost” mentality.

      Team spirit and fair play are still important lessons to be learned - and not just in sport!

    • Oldtimer says:

      09:11am | 10/08/09

      Oh Dear! Isn’t life about competition,healthy competition where we learn we’re good at some things not at others and accepting that others may be better? Games are preparation for the big bad world out there why do we have to take it all so seriously?

    • Vanessa says:

      07:23am | 11/08/09

      You cannot say “no” to a pre-school child.
      Teachers should not use a red pen to mark the children’s work.
      At the end of the year every child gets an award OR nobody gets an award.

      ARGH!

      Children need to be taught at a young age that you can’t always win and you can’t always get want you want.  Harden up kiddies - life is not a fairytale. 

      Find your gift or talent and strive for success in that area.  The failures you experience along the way will make you a stronger person and you will appreciate your success.

    • Stormin_Norman says:

      07:11pm | 22/08/09

      my young liam plays U7 football (sokka to some of you). all his team mates have continued throughout the season; with none dropping out. i put this down to a happy balance between opportunity, praise, competitiveness and style.

      in junior sports all kids should be measured on effort rather then skill. if they are trying, then their contribution is as important as their effort.

      good play by BOTH teams supporters is needed. telling an opposition’s player he bad a good pass, or tackle is more encouragement to the kid because its come from a stranger who wasnt ‘meant’ to be cheering for him. same as you dont berate a player telling what he did wrong, but encouragingly remind them how in training they did it correctly (‘remember to kick the ball to the wing like in training’; not ‘dont kick the ball in the middle’).

      kids keep score. so make sure you talk about it at the end of the game. but in football how you play is important. so we may have lose 3-6, but we passed the ball really well and did some good tackling. the other team were very good, but we played well in the first half. in the second we didnt try as hard, so they scored most of their goals. not recognising flaws isn’t fair on the kids; concentrating on them isnt either.

      to me, junior football is about teaching the kids the skills to be successful when they are 12+ and the games become seriously competitive. i like to see passing, dribbling and teamwork more then a goal. the kids love scoring. they love to keep score.

      its the parents who’s reaction to the score and negligence of the importance of effort, teamwork and skills in favour of the end result are the issue.

 

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