Last week Tory Shepherd explained the seven things she’d miss about men if they vanished from the earth. Punch regular Erick commented this piece earlier in the week. Since it may have been overlooked amongst this week’s leadership clusterpunch, we’ve republished it here.

A few days ago, Mahhrat, Emma and others asked me if I could come up with a list of seven things I’d miss if all women disappeared from the world. That’s not something I’d ever considered, so it took me a while to come up with an answer.

Of course it would have been trivially easy to list seven things that I find sexually attractive, but that’s a rather shallow view. It would be equally easy to just say the human race would end, but that wouldn’t necessarily be true since biological science could probably find a way.

So what’s left are those nice things that men just can’t provide in the same way. In no particular order:

1. Smiles. A woman’s smile is different from a man’s. It has a way of brightening the day, especially if it’s directed in return to an appreciative look.

2. Emotional support. Men offer sympathy and practical help, and usually this is what men want. But there are some times when that isn’t quite what’s needed, and this is where the non-judgmental and unconditional support of a woman can make a difference.

3. Physical affection. I specifically don’t mean sex, but those little gestures such as hugs and caresses. A touch can say so much, and for heterosexual men only a woman’s touch will do.

4. Decorativeness. No, not looking pretty, though that’s a plus - but having a sense of practical aesthetics that can transform a space. When I moved into my house on my own, I managed to live there for three years without putting a single painting or poster on the wall, a rug on the floor, or a potted plant in the corner. The sound system was great and the library and computers were first class, but it lacked the contributions of the other half.

5. Socialising. Women remember everyone’s birthdays, anniversaries, and the kinds of food they like. These details might seem too trivial to remember for a man, but they are important on occasion, and a woman has them to hand.

6. Household skills. Sure, men can cook, sew, and raise children, but women are just better at these sorts of things. It isn’t just cultural - the human species has incorporated some sex differences at a genetic level.

7. All the sexy stuff. Of course I’d miss that!

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    • Kerryn says:

      04:57am | 29/02/12

      There are too many things about blokes that I’d miss to list here.  I mean, really, all blokes are are women with extra bits between their legs.  Just as nice to look at, just as freaking annoying…(I have both an ex-girlfriend and an ex-boyfriend).

    • acotrel says:

      08:01am | 29/02/12

      What I really like about women is their ability to two things at once.  Like putting on their make-up looking in the rear vision mirror, while driving a car. Or having sex while eating an apple.

    • year of the dragon says:

      08:37am | 29/02/12

      acotrel says:09:01am | 29/02/12

      “Or having sex while eating an apple.”

      You must be a rocking root acotrel.

    • trentyn says:

      08:51am | 29/02/12

      wow aco! love your style. you may have just spawned a whole new fetish for me… who hasnt done the old fondue… but fresh fruit… super healthy sex…. do want!!

    • Fingers says:

      09:29am | 29/02/12

      Erik - you’re one of the faceless men!

    • SimonFromLakemba says:

      09:53am | 29/02/12

      Must be once the Viagra kicks in id say..ahha

    • old fart says:

      09:55am | 29/02/12

      @YOD
      No he just has a garden of eden fetish

    • frankr says:

      04:11pm | 29/02/12

      @ year of the dragon
      this and another comment of yours today tie for best of the year, rotflmao, keep it up

    • Macca says:

      05:28am | 29/02/12

      Thank you, Erick

    • trentyn says:

      08:49am | 29/02/12

      agreed, great read and true in every way that matters, many thanks!

    • Redeker Plan says:

      11:25am | 29/02/12

      Agreed, Thank you Erick.  I will remember this on the frequent occasions that your posts make my blood pressure skyrocket.  I’ve never agreed with some responses that call you a misogynist; there is far too much genuine misogyny in the world, such as the Taliban, to insult you by putting you into that category, no matter how much you and I do generally have polar-opposite views.  A misogynist could not have written this, it’s lovely.

    • Erick says:

      12:25pm | 29/02/12

      @Redeker Plan - Thank you, in turn.

      People who accuse others of being “misogynists” merely for having a different opinion, are usually remarkably ignorant of what REAL misogynists are like.

    • skepdad says:

      02:30pm | 29/02/12

      +1 thanks. Well done.

      I think one of the things I’d (sort of) miss is women’s ability to notice things. *Insert generalisation disclaimer* but the women in my life, and this holds true for the other couples I know, are typically more observant of the minor details around them. This goes somewhat to Erick’s “socialising” point but also to many other areas. 

      They will notice when a fork at a restaurant is dirty. They will notice the crayon on the wall, the dodgy transaction on the visa statement, the way that the six year old is a little down, the lack of ice in the freezer.  The little tuneups that avoid little things becoming big things.

      Of course this also means they notice when you play too much World of Tanks, when the hedges are a bit rasta and when the aircon is costing too much. Swings and roundabouts eh.

      I guess you could make an evolutionary case for males being more attuned to “big” threats.  So now we’re better at making sure the internet doesn’t go down and the rattle under the hood is taken care of…

    • Emma says:

      05:54am | 29/02/12

      Very lovely article. Most likely some people will say its all rubbish, but then maybe they should read point one on this list again. We all have our reason sometimes to be bitter and upset with the other sex, but what you put in is what comes back at you. A little more generosity and kindness would go a long way to in this battle.

      When we had Tory’s original article some men posted that women can get upset at them over a well meant smile/compliment and I had to admit to myself that I do that at times. So since then I am smiling at everyone that smiles at me and the most common reaction is positive surprise.

    • Mayday says:

      06:31am | 29/02/12

      Nice one Erick, thanks.

    • gobsmack says:

      06:40am | 29/02/12

      I’ve notice that many of the disaffected men who inhabit the men’s rights forums seem to be the ones who most desparately crave female company.
      An example, on a general level, how unrequited love can turn to bitterness and hate.

    • Tom says:

      07:44am | 29/02/12

      Yes, and that probably works both ways. How do you explain your negative slant to what was written in the article?

    • Tim says:

      08:07am | 29/02/12

      Gobsmack,
      I think you just described most feminists - particularly the fat, ugly ones.

      Actually scratch that last bit, it’s redundant.

    • Arthur says:

      08:47am | 29/02/12

      “Actually scratch that last bit, it’s redundant. “

      No it’‘s not.

      There are plenty of hot feminists. Women, hot or not, just want more, more, more, more…..........................................

    • Poor souls says:

      09:04am | 29/02/12

      So true, Gobsmack. So true.

    • fairsfair says:

      09:23am | 29/02/12

      Cairns recently had its very own “Slut Walk”. Oh Tim how I wish you could see that footage…....

    • Jack says:

      10:49am | 29/02/12

      Two words, Tim: Ashley Judd.

    • Kika says:

      10:49am | 29/02/12

      Agreed Gobsmack. You can even take it to a freudian ID level where they probably didn’t receive the love and affection they needed from their own mothers hence hate ALL women because of their deep rooted loathing of their mothers.

    • Tim says:

      11:57am | 29/02/12

      Fairsfair,
      attention whores <> most feminists.

    • gobsmack says:

      01:42pm | 29/02/12

      @Tim
      As long as there’s guys like you around, one thing that wouldn’t be missed is bitchiness.

    • Tim says:

      02:00pm | 29/02/12

      gobsmack,
      Bitchiness?
      No, I’m just there to point out hypocrisy wherever it occurs.

      Seems to be a feature of most of your comments.

    • gobsmack says:

      03:13pm | 29/02/12

      @Tim
      “I’m just there to point out hypocrisy wherever it occurs.”
      So if Erick is Batman your the boy wonder, Robin.

    • Tim says:

      04:07pm | 29/02/12

      gobsmack,
      *your* should be *you’re*.

    • gobsmack says:

      05:00pm | 29/02/12

      @Tim
      So, you’re there to point out hypocrisy and bad grammar wherever they occur.  Someone’s got to do it.
      Hopefully, your tights stay ladder-free.

    • John says:

      06:41am | 29/02/12

      The problem with women today is that they use men as a means to an end, they look upon men as a product to satisfie their own selfish desires. Women also lack honor and respect. They are only to nice to people that are of use for them and have disrespect for any thing that isn’t. I’ve seen it heaps of women with this attitude end up divorced, sperated. Then you have the couples were the women dominates everything. I could never tolerate the modern women. It’s would be like tolerating a dictator. I don’t believe in Tolerance. Ladies of today are not even marriage material, getting into a relationship or getting married would like be scammed by a Nigerian scammer.

    • Emma says:

      07:29am | 29/02/12

      What a terribly bitter comment. Does it work for you blaming your failed relationships on “the modern western woman” in general?

    • Pieman says:

      07:33am | 29/02/12

      John says “I don’t believe in Tolerance”

      Now filed in the Oxford dictioanry under ‘tautology’

    • Nathan Explosion says:

      07:42am | 29/02/12

      So you’ve met every single woman in the whole world, have you? To say they *all* lack honor and respect?

      What a bunch of baloney.

    • Lucy says:

      07:54am | 29/02/12

      Interesting view.

      Im guessing you are either going to fall hard for a subserviant overseas women only to discover she isnt that subserviant and once she has her papers and a kid (so she has income) she will leave you for dead, or you are going to be one of those bitter lonely guys who sit at the pub and bemoan how there are no good women in the world..

    • acotrel says:

      08:05am | 29/02/12

      I hate being treated like a sex slave ! Kissing on demand is terrible. (I’ve just looked over my shoulder to see where she is. )

    • Emma says:

      08:08am | 29/02/12

      Lucy

      It is funny (in a sad way) how some old Aussie guy can order a order a beautiful 18 year old girl from overseas, marry her and then gets all teary when she leaves him on the day the two years are over. Happened to a colleague of mine. I dont know whether I should feel for him or should set his head straight how appalling it was in the first place to purchase a young woman from overseas and that therefore I cant really see him as victim.

    • Lauren says:

      09:08am | 29/02/12

      toll harder, john.

    • Lauren says:

      09:09am | 29/02/12

      *and by toll I meant troll.grin

    • Jeremy says:

      10:07am | 29/02/12

      I wish you could meet some of the powerful, loyal, intelligent and in differing way beautiful women in my life.
      True, I know many who are none of those things, and your comment makes me think that those ones are the only women who would ever give you the time of day.
      A large number of people (m & f) are drudge, but if you only see or know those ones blame yourself, because there are wonderful people everywhere.

    • Stewart Roche says:

      11:37am | 29/02/12

      I hate to say it, but I am inclined to agree with the OP (John).  His observations match my own.  It’s funny to see how quickly love/affection disappear when they are not getting everything they want.

    • Emma says:

      12:03pm | 29/02/12

      @ Stewart

      You have dated women that are soley in for material things and then you have been disappointed when you realised this.

      Women that like material things are attracted by men who use material things to attract them.

      So maybe you should rethink your approach.

    • Kika says:

      12:03pm | 29/02/12

      Hi John,

      I don’t view my husband as a means to an end. . My husband earns more than me, yet we share our bills 50/50. We both contribute equally to the same account where we pay for joint expenses. The rest of our cash it’s up to us. He chooses to put more into our joint savings because he can.

      I know what you mean. There’s plenty of dominant women out there. But they usually pick weak men because if they are both dominant it just wouldn’t work. I feel sorry for the men in those relationships JUST AS i feel sorry for women in relationships with a dominant man. I was there once. It crushes your ego and you become trapped. So it can apply either way to both s-exes.

      I believe a modern relationship should be 50/50 for everything. It’s not equitable if its anything otherwise.

    • Tubesteak says:

      12:30pm | 29/02/12

      Just remember that when you get the mail-order bride that you have the house in the trust with an offshore trustee and beneficiary and that you are either semi-retired or fully retired so that you have a better argument to get sole custody. Therefore, she has the choice of staying with you and continuing to do her proper wifely duties or going back to her own country with no income. That’s my plan!

    • Bev says:

      01:51pm | 29/02/12

      Tubesteak says:01:30pm | 29/02/12
      If the just released report on DV in federal law get up that door is closed. Under proposed changes to the immigration laws she can claim the “fear” of DV and can short circuit getting a permanent visa (no 2 year waiting period)

    • Fiona says:

      01:58pm | 29/02/12

      Good God. A perfectly nice article by Erick (thanks btw) and it inspires John to his usual rant about how dishonorable women are,  Stewart to agree and tubesteak to share his charming views on buying a foreign woman and planning for the divorce and sole custody of a child.

    • LoveFest says:

      02:07pm | 29/02/12

      Troll! Plese ignore.

    • Tubesteak says:

      05:15pm | 29/02/12

      Bev
      I have deep pockets to fund the litigation against such a tactic

      Fiona
      I’m just protecting what’s mine.

    • Fiona says:

      08:27pm | 29/02/12

      I’ll bite. A child’s only half yours (til they’re 18) and please explain “proper wifely duties”.
      Your jaundiced view on life is always so interesting.

    • Daniel says:

      02:53pm | 02/03/12

      Does everyone just accept that Bev and Erick are the same person?

    • Joan Bennett says:

      06:43am | 29/02/12

      As a female, I can’t say I’ve noticed that women are that much better at any of these.  I know I’m certainly not!  My partner is a better cook and more coordinated at all the domestic things, as well as being able to fix the car grin  He’s more supportive than I am and I forgot his birthday once, but he hasn’t forgotten mine in all the years we’ve been together.  I think people need to believe that the opposite sex are better at some things so they can see value to them.  Lets face it, we prefer being around our own gender because we understand them - early civilisations knew that and went with it -so we naturally have to pretend that the other gender has all this cool stuff that we don’t to mix with them.  Individuals are good at individual things.  Got nothing to do with chromosomes.
      These feel good, fuzzy articles don’t really do anything, except make people who need to feel good, feel good.  Interesting social phenomenon, though.

    • Sonia says:

      07:51am | 29/02/12

      Rubbish.  My hubby can look after the kids, but no way is he as good at it as me.  One reason is that he can’t multi-task.  If he’s on the phone, he’s not noticing the kids.  That’s not personality, that’s genetics.

    • TChong says:

      08:14am | 29/02/12

      sonia
      you do realise that the “women can multi task ,better than men”
      has no basis ?
      No study incorporating scientific methodology has ever made such “findings”
      In fact, the opposite is true.
      When men and women of similar age, qualification,socio economic background , education etc are set tasks - there is no difference in responses to problem solving.

    • Babs says:

      08:17am | 29/02/12

      I’m with you on the cooking Joan - I’m bored rigid by cooking (and routinely burn things), and I have someone who cleans for me. If I could I’d have a ‘dresser’ (like the Queen), a housekeeper who told me every day what the menu was going to be, a cleaner, a gardener and a driver. I can’t say my man likes any of these things better than I do, but we get by.  My ideal life would be reading and writing, enjoying my job, laughing with my children (now grown-up - how did we ever make it together?) and just enjoying my ‘neuter’ (or androgynous?) life, where I don’t appear to conform to any particular stereotype. Oh and I have a collection of hammers, spanners, ladders etc (bought by me) for doing odd jobs around the house even though ‘he’ is better at that. I guess, like most people, I’m just myself.

      Very nice article Erick.  One thing that might be different between our gender (setting aside the biological imperatives), is perhaps, what I think of as the male longing for the female. Do women have the opposite?  If we do it doesn’t seem of the same intensity.

    • Chris L says:

      08:23am | 29/02/12

      Perhaps, Joan, you are the exception that proves the rule.

    • gobsmack says:

      08:34am | 29/02/12

      @Sonia
      “If he’s on the phone, he’s not noticing the kids.”
      Women, by necessity, have had to learn to do other things while they’re talking otherwise they’d never get anything done.

    • Erick says:

      08:43am | 29/02/12

      @Babs - “One thing that might be different between our gender (setting aside the biological imperatives), is perhaps, what I think of as the male longing for the female. Do women have the opposite?  If we do it doesn’t seem of the same intensity.”

      I strongly agree with this. Men’s need for sexual contact with women is much stronger than the reverse, especially in young men. Many men will do literally *anything* for a woman.

      This is one of the main sources of women’s power in society. Men do many things, but most of them are done for women.

    • Lauren says:

      09:18am | 29/02/12

      @ gobsmack. my boyfriend would agree with you there. I could be underwater with a mouth full of marbles and still be yakking away, I won’t lie!

      Although, unlike some massive talkers out there, I am able to realise when I have hijacked the conversation, or when someone is getting bored with my (totally awesome) stories, and shut up accordingly.

    • Babs says:

      09:37am | 29/02/12

      Thanks Erick - I observed this not long ago when watching a Polish film (one of those dark slow-moving tales the Europeans are so good at). The man character, a hapless fellow with no family, became obsessed with a nurse. He worked out how to get into her apartment without waking her, and then he did things for her. He washed up after her party. He sewed buttons back onto her shirt. He watched over her and sometimes even put his head on her pillow as she slept. His need to be near her was so strong he even spent his severance pay on a very expensive ring, which he put on her engagement finger as she slept (she took some kind of sedative so never woke while he was there). It struck me this was a kind of truthful fairy tale about males and females, so I’m interested that you agree.

    • Wynston Cruso says:

      02:20pm | 29/02/12

      Sonia, you know what they say about multi-tasking. I wouldn’t say it’s an advantage. I like to do one thing at a time, properly.

      P.S. great article Erick

    • Mahhrat says:

      06:45am | 29/02/12

      Good work Erick.  @Tory, I would like your considered reply to this too, if that’s possible.

      The only one I’d perhaps add is the power of inclusiveness or exclusiveness (through non-violent means, at least).

      I love the way women are able to include you in things, to consult and to seek the opinions of others.  What they do with such information may be open to debate, but a consultative way of doing things is much better than the straight-up pissing matches we men tend to get involved in.

      On a purely individual level, I love how my lady smooths the edges of my personality.  She stops me getting too carried away, much as I do for her on other things, I suppose, but that’s probably why we make a great team.

    • Greypower says:

      06:51am | 29/02/12

      Aaaaw!  That’s very thoughtful article -Thank you Eric.

    • NESLIHAN KUROSAWA says:

      06:55am | 29/02/12

      Hi Erick,

      I am so happy that you have decided to get in touch with the child within and discover your feminine side!  It has certainly put a smile on our faces instead of all the bitterness, bickering and backstabbing that we have all become accustomed to, only joking!

      Does this also mean that we can also look forward to more deep and meaningful topics on the Punch? Because, I truly feel that there is absolutely nothing worse than picking on other people’s weaknesses and so called negative points as a way of life.

      Only people with very low self esteems and self images, will put others down in order to make themselves look slightly better at any cost.  Which could be a total waste of time and energy, in my personal opinion!

      Life is all about sharing our personal opinions in a very civilized manner and ideally end of with a very constructive two way communication, which can be a real plus in our stressful and mundane lives. 

      I also get the feeling that you might need a new decorator to help you with your house. Somehow, I also think that you have become a very eligible bachelor with on the list, that if you aren’t taken yet, only joking. Kind regards.

    • subotic says:

      08:03am | 29/02/12

      WTF,  a man has to reach into some “inner artefact child” to discover femininity? Huh?

      What kind of drugs are you on NESLIHAN KUROSAWA?

      Since when does it require anyone of any gender to have to resort to psychobabble to appreciate those around them?

    • NESLIHAN KUROSAWA says:

      05:52am | 02/03/12

      Hi Subotic,

      You seem to be upset once again, most unfortunately. I was only using a touch of good old sarcasm and surely you know what that means, right?  I have a feeling that you seem to have lost your sense of humor all of a sudden, which is very hard to believe! 

      May be for once, you can actually come with a few words of your own, with good old creative writing skills.  That would be a definite plus for your long range plans of becoming an editor, one day?

      Why do you always think that everyone should be on drugs or antidepressants?  I just want to say that it surely takes one to know one!  You also seem to be very fixed about certain issues.  I will say once again, you can take whatever you like, but please don’t mix certain medications and your favorite drugs at all times. Kind regards.

    • P. Thornton says:

      07:03am | 29/02/12

      There are some men who seem to think that in order to pull a bloke must somehow insult a female. Often it’s a tongue-in-cheek insult, but insulting nonetheless. Gentlemen, blokes and/or all currently single dudes who despite using this allegedly failsafe method of negotiated intimacy still find themselves alone and horny when they’d rather be with someone and, well, you know… Allow me to advise you: lift your game. Be confident enough to offer sincere, non-creepy and above all well timed, look them straight in the eyes compliments. You never know you luck in a big city.

    • Lauren says:

      09:23am | 29/02/12

      Once a guy came up to me in a beer garden and asked me if I had just farted. I looked at him horrified and said no, to which he replied ‘because you blew me away’.

      Don’t get me wrong, I laughed so hard I almost pulled a muscle, but I also politely made a hasty exit.

      Some girls like fart jokes. Most do not however. A simple ‘hey nice dress’ would have been more suffice!

    • Nafe says:

      10:50am | 29/02/12

      LMAO,

      I don’t know what to say to that pick up line. I doubt it would ever work.

    • Slothy says:

      12:12pm | 29/02/12

      Lauren - I can’t lie. That line would totally work on me.

      But then, I am one hell of a classy broad.

    • ByStealth says:

      02:06pm | 29/02/12

      ‘Allow me to advise you: lift your game. Be confident enough to offer sincere, non-creepy and above all well timed, look them straight in the eyes compliments.’

      This won’t work in all situations. There are still some women that will label you as ‘creepy’ anyway which is the crime of showing interest in them when they’re not attracted to you.

      ‘Insulting a woman’ is usually code for either teasing or deliberately doing something to stand out from other men. You’re not actually trying to insult her.

      There is no one size fits all policy regarding women. The only hard rules are cultivating an abundance mentality regarding women along with outcome independance and not caring about how she reacts.

    • KH says:

      07:03am | 29/02/12

      Number 6 is a load of absolute bullshit, and insulting, to say the least.  Show me one shred of evidence that ‘sewing’ is a genetic trait.  Once again your obvious disdain for women comes to the fore.

    • Kerryn says:

      07:16am | 29/02/12

      Can’t you just take a compliment with a smile and a thank-you?!  How hard is it?

    • Nilbog says:

      07:20am | 29/02/12

      Thanks, troll.

    • Emma says:

      07:35am | 29/02/12

      That is harsh. I actually like sewing buttons back on or so, because I imagine my mother watching me saying “So you DID pick up some of the things I showed you!”

      Relax and dont see offence in everything a man does or says. It is really annoying and causing more harm than anything else. Noone is trying to take your voting rights away from you, so calm down.

    • KH says:

      07:38am | 29/02/12

      Kerryn - it isn’t a compliment.  It really shits me when people perpetuate this kind of nonsense.

    • Nigel says:

      07:54am | 29/02/12

      Some peaople just have half empty glasses!

    • Emma says:

      08:14am | 29/02/12

      Hmmm anyone else wondering if John (terribly bitter post above) fell in in love with KH once and that caused him to lose all faith in modern women?

    • Chris L says:

      08:38am | 29/02/12

      Erick didn’t say only women should take part in domestic tasks, indeed he acknowledged that men are quite capable. He just said women tend to be better at it, and I agree.

      In recent times, for some reason, many women seem to be embarassed or ashamed at the kind of domestic skills that were a source of pride and admiration in previous generations. I wonder if this change has anything to do with increased recordings of depression and dissatisfaction among women.

    • Smidgeling says:

      08:57am | 29/02/12

      KH- you’re right about one thing in your post. It isn’t a genetic trait.

      However, it isn’t disdain and women are generally better at it, if only because our society usually leads girls towards those kinds of things so they get more practice on average.

      I wouldn’t put it on my list of things I would miss about women. Although I was pretty glad my ex showed me how to sew a button properly…

    • Ben C says:

      08:58am | 29/02/12

      @ KH

      So, when you cop a flat tyre, do you change it yourself, or do you get your husband to change it?

      Sewing may not be a genetic trait, but women are better at it, because they have the delicate touch required for it, which is where the genetic part of it comes in.

    • MD says:

      09:03am | 29/02/12

      Women have better fine motor skills than men, that’s a fact.

      How do you think that came about?

    • MD says:

      09:03am | 29/02/12

      Women have better fine motor skills than men, that’s a fact.

      How do you think that came about?

    • Lauren says:

      09:14am | 29/02/12

      I suck at ironing. Like, really suck. My boyfriend, on the other hand, is awesome at it. Sewing is so so…I can do it because it isn’t that hard. Might not be an awesome job, but I can get away with it.

      Also, I can change my own tyre. I personally think it’s something EVERYONE, regardless of gender, needs to learn once they get their licence.

    • KH says:

      09:28am | 29/02/12

      Ben C - I change it myself. I can also use all manner of power tools, fix stuff around the house, up to and including putting up plasterboard and cutting down trees, and have no problems with spiders and other household invaders…............I can’t use a sewing machine to save myself, and if cooking doesn’t involve a toaster and a microwave then I am in trouble.  Clearly there is no genetic predisposition to these tasks that is based on gender!

      I’m sure some women are ‘better at’ sewing, or whatever (if you do something a lot, naturally you will be better at it than others) and it could be considered a ‘compliment’ if he hadn’t then added that this is because of some ‘genetic’ trait - it is insulting and is a statement designed to give legitimacy to the idea that women are only good for domestic work, because they are ‘designed’ for it.  I won’t apologise for being offended by that.

    • Erick says:

      09:49am | 29/02/12

      There are inherent differences between the sexes that are not socially constructed, and not a mere function of reproduction. Evolution over hundreds of thousands of years has predisposed men and women to different talents and different roles.

      These differences tend to be proclivities, rather than specific skills. And they largely exist in potential, which means that specific characteristics won’t necessarily be actualised.

      The idea that, except for their genitals, males and females are essentially interchangeable is an ideological fantasy. There are differences, and there’s nothing wrong with that. And there are exceptions as well.

    • Cakemaker says:

      09:50am | 29/02/12

      I bake things for fun, and I’m proud of it. I’m better at it than most men I know. I don’t know if this is because I’m a woman but I’m not offended if someone says it is.

      I do hate it when someone says I’ve ‘become a good little housewife’ though, simply because I bake. I just like eating cake ok! This does not make me a domestic goddess!

    • Ben C says:

      12:40pm | 29/02/12

      @ KH

      I take your point, however I still maintain that there are some tasks at which women are more competent than men, simply because of their genetic disposition. Sewing, for instance - if you and I were to be put next to each other on sewing machines, taught how to use them, and told to make something, I would contend that your final product would be miles better than mine - for starters, women have a more delicate, more refined touch than men, something that is extremely important when it comes to using a sewing machine.

      Take off the blinkers, and see Erick’s comment for what it really is. Your (understandable) prejudice against every comment of his is distorting what is actually praise for females.

    • Chris says:

      07:08am | 29/02/12

      It’s good to know that if there were no more women, the human race would survive. Sure, according to this article the world won’t look as nice, what with all the mismatched scatter cushions lying about the joint from you guys not being bothered surviving to pretty up the joint, but don’t worry your pretty little extinct heads about that. Us blokes will probably be too busy making babies (male babies) out of transistors and coconut shells to really notice the lack of feminine fung shui.

    • Erick says:

      07:09am | 29/02/12

      I’d just like to add a couple of caveats to forestall criticism.

      First, this is a very generic list. People are different, so there will of course be exceptions to these characteristics, both male and female.

      Secondly, this is not a comprehensive thesis on the differences between men and women. It’s just a little list of seven things I personally like about women. Other people’s opinions will of course vary.

      Thirdly, this is about straight women and straight men from a (mostly) heterosexual man’s point of view. It isn’t meant to typify gays at all.

      Lastly, it’s been fun to write something nice and positive for a change. Most of my comments are about addressing injustices, but there are good things in the world, too.

    • Reality Girl says:

      07:51am | 29/02/12

      Erick,

      This article was well written and very nice to women.

      Which leads me to this:

      Have you been kidnapped and held hostage by the Punch team or have they started writing under your name

      Did they slip drugs into your cappucino at your favourite cafe or something

      Where is the real Erick?????

      Do you need assistance is breaking free from the grip of the Punch team

    • The righteous one says:

      07:55am | 29/02/12

      Erick ,
      you big softy

    • Erick says:

      08:08am | 29/02/12

      @Reality Girl - No, I’m perfectly fine, and the same person. The scopolamine and cattle prods have nothing to do with it.

      It’s just that, as I mentioned above, most of my comments deal with injustices and naturally they tend to be negative. However, that’s just a small subsection of the things I actually think about.

      Also, you shouldn’t believe my enemies when they say I hate women. I don’t hate women, I hate discrimination and unfairness. They are not the same thing.

    • Reality Girl says:

      08:38am | 29/02/12

      Erick

      OK this I can possibly buy

      I like reading your posts cause whilst they are sometimes way off the mark or even off the topic, I too tire of the whining of my sisters about things that are not relevant or true or do not take into account fairness for all

      However, I was just checking to see if you were in fact being held hostage as was totally prepared to start an online campaign against the Punch team to obtain your liberation if required

    • trentyn says:

      08:59am | 29/02/12

      this:

      “Also, you shouldn’t believe my enemies when they say I hate women. I don’t hate women, I hate discrimination and unfairness. They are not the same thing”

      is so easy to be slapped with the hate brush when people just cant get past their own issues. more power to you erick.

    • Smidgeling says:

      09:05am | 29/02/12

      While Erick probably posts way too much about the injustices he speaks of, I do believe his explanation of his actions valid. (sorry, not sure how to address Reality girl and Erick at the same time with pronouns…).

      I have been called a misogynist by a few of my female friends…but it’s not that we hate women as a gender, nor do we believe that all women are the same. We just hate particular women who other women themselves probably hate too. It’s just hard to contain the hurt and anger you feel when you encounter a bad egg.

      It’s the same as when the masses of women proclaim all men are assholes/shallow/etc.

    • Kika says:

      05:03pm | 29/02/12

      So Erick… basically you only like women for their attractive qualities to you (softness, femininity, estrogen) rather than for who they are? No wonder you’ve been stuffed around by women. Resist the hormones! Look for women with brains too!

    • year of the dragon says:

      06:46pm | 29/02/12

      Kika says: 06:03pm | 29/02/12

      “So Erick… basically you only like women for their attractive qualities to you”

      Well why would he like women for their qualities that are attractive to someone else.

      “rather than for who they are?”

      Well given that “who they are” is highly individual it would probably take to long. Or are suggesting that “who they are” can be based on broad-based generalisations?

      “Look for women with brains too!”

      As the article was about appreciating women if they weren’t there then I assume that you believe that there is a difference between men’s and women’s brains. Perhaps you’d like to expand on this. Without being sexist of course.

    • Minger says:

      07:17pm | 29/02/12

      I have just realised something. Erick, I don’t actually think you are a mysogynist. I think that you are extremely passionate about injustice and therefore your usual comments are fueled by that - not hate. Perhaps it’s stating the obvious but I think it’s nice to realise that I was wrong.

      That is all. Nice list by the way.

    • James In Footscray says:

      07:09am | 29/02/12

      WTF! Are you winding us up Erick?  Have I taken the bait?

      If I told someone that I valued them because they’re ‘decorative’ and ‘good at housework’ ‘they’d be quite justified in punching my lights out.

      And all the gear about ‘smiles’ and ‘sexy stuff’’ is just weird.

    • Giraffe says:

      07:27am | 29/02/12

      Yes, how dare you speak truthfully to todays modern gal!

    • Emma says:

      07:53am | 29/02/12

      Its all about how you say it.

    • year of the dragon says:

      08:45am | 29/02/12

      James In Footscray says:08:09am | 29/02/12

      “WTF! Are you winding us up Erick?  Have I taken the bait?”

      Why don’t you tell us why you love women James. I’d be really interested to hear the ‘counterpunch’ to Eric’s article.

    • fml says:

      07:10am | 29/02/12

      Dont know about 6,

      I dont like attributing traits which are either taught or bettered via practice as genetic attributes. Its a very slippery slope and id would say not true. If Women are better at those things its because they have practiced, not because it is genetically inherited.

      I would like to see the gene in the human genome which differentiates this, i dare say it doesnt exist.

    • Mahhrat says:

      07:54am | 29/02/12

      @fml perhaps, but these are the things Erick admires - it’s his opinion.

      I agree with you, I’m better at some household chores than my partner, and vice versa.

      What interests me though is that she does some of the chores I’m quite capable of doing because she likes doing them for me.  In return, I feel loved and wanted that, for example, she washed my clothes last night so I didn’t have to worry about being out of undies when I got back from walking our pups.

    • fml says:

      08:10am | 29/02/12

      @mahrat,

      I understand that it is his opinion, Fair play to him for putting himself up in the spot light and putting forward something positive.

      I actually agree with the observation of number 6, That some people are better at certain jobs than others, but i disagree on the reasoning, i think attributing capability to genetic traits is just a way of saying, that you cant explain how something can be done so you attribute it to the black box of genetics.

      I dont want anything i am good at to be attributed to something which is out of my control, i want it to be attributed to the hard work and effort i put in.

      I happy for you smile Sounds like you have a lovely partner, good work chumbada smile

    • Kika says:

      12:27pm | 29/02/12

      @fml - I am highly sceptical about Erick’s comprehension of human genetics. If he thinks that men are closer to chimps genetically than a woman, and now claims that household cleaning and organisation is also a genetic trait (say that to my male colleague who is undergoing constant battles with his wife about her reluctance to do housework) I would take his insight on biology with grain of salt!

    • yobogod says:

      07:11am | 29/02/12

      On behalf of the internets Erick,
      Apology accepted, you may now freely post opinion where its not wanted again!

    • Brenda says:

      07:17am | 29/02/12

      Erick your list is warmly thoughtful and reveals much that is good about yourself and 95% of the men in my workplace and family.  It sounds as if you might be missing these female traits because they are becoming more rare as time goes by.

      I believe most men would agree with your sentiments. 

      As growing girls, one of the life-lessons our wise and popular mother taught us is that a genuine, sunny smile costs nothing, yet is of immeasurable value whenever it is given away.

    • Kika says:

      10:46am | 29/02/12

      Especially when used when trying to get your way…. failed to mention that part. Women are masters of faking smiles. Just like you said, we have to. We have to be demure. We have to be feminine.

    • wearestardust says:

      07:23am | 29/02/12

      Very nice Erick.  I would agree with all of those.  I presume this won’t, however, lead to a reduction in the rate of posting against any article with the remotest connection to any gender issue further assertions about the grand and coordinated female conspiracy of social and physical violence by women against men, complete with dodgy statistics.

      (just a touch of hyperbole there because Erick’s blood pressure must be dangerously off the boil to have written that piece)

    • Wayne says:

      07:44am | 29/02/12

      Stands and applauds…...

    • Nathan Explosion says:

      07:45am | 29/02/12

      While it’s terrific to see Erick saying something nice about women for a change, I really wish the Punch would stop pandering to him.

    • yobogod says:

      07:59am | 29/02/12

      apparently he was once intelligent…..

    • Cynicised says:

      08:27am | 29/02/12

      The Cult Of Erick is alive and well, largely due to the fact that his posts are so predictable that you can guarantee any article written about women will be hijacked by him. This in turn means that others will post to counteract his personal agenda, thereby increasing the hits the site records. The owners Luuuurrrrrve him, that’s why they pander…and yes, it’s bloody annoying.

      Although it is refreshing to see him having something positive to say about women for once, his largely patronizing generalizations mean little more
      than ho- hum to me, I’m afraid. Can’t get over the man’s bitter and twistedness, sorry.

    • The Free says:

      09:03am | 29/02/12

      Hey Cynicised, “the man’s bitter and twistedness”.  That’s the spirit nothing like hypocrisy to heal one’s wounds.

      Hey, here’s a thought instead of making insulting accusations, thusly in actuality being bitter, howsabout you counter any arguments he has with logic in the absence of emotionally charged rhetoric - I believe they call that critical thinking.

      ...Better yet have you noticed that a lot ( A LOT) of articles here cover women’s issues, with the once a year token man’s one thrown in for good (?) measure?

      Maybe he thinks that showing society that men have problems and that certain people refuse to talk about men’s problems and call any man bringing attention to them “bitter and twisted”, only proves his point.

      This is why I eat ice cream, coz it keeps me cool

    • Bev says:

      09:17am | 29/02/12

      Cynicised says:09:27am | 29/02/12

      his largely patronizing generalizations mean little more
      than ho- hum to me, I’m afraid. Can’t get over the man’s bitter and twistedness, sorry.

      Which says to me as you a person( who takes a hard feminist line) that he is pushing your feminist belief buttons and you don’t like it.  Tough! Though it does show Erick doesn’t hate women just feminists.  Somethig you don’t seem to accept.

    • ZSRenn says:

      09:38am | 29/02/12

      It’s not the punch pandering to him Nathan. He, unlike ourselves, is a good writer. He deserves this recognition.

    • Ando says:

      10:53am | 29/02/12

      Erick only ever targets a line of thinking that he believes panders to women. He never attacks women in general. You may disagree with his opinion but to broaden it to a dislike of women is weak. Cynicised, if its so annoying stop feeding into it.

    • Cynicised says:

      11:00am | 29/02/12

      Haha, you little Eric Cultists make me laugh. As for being bitter about Eric, god no, he’s just an annoying mosquito who needs swatting.

      As for the assumption that I push “hard feminist lines” I suggest you read some of my posts before leaping to conclusions. I merely resent the fact that no discussion on the Punch about issues affecting women can be had without Eric twisting the agenda to suit his own cause.

      I am also aghast that after all the crap that he has spouted about “the great female conspiracy” and his constant negativity towards women that we are now supposed to be grateful and ever so appreciative of his pat on the head with a bunch of “damned with feint praise” dodgy genetic ramblings.

      There, I’ve gotten that off my chest. Now to move on to more important things. Unlike dear Ecca I don’t happen to have a one-track mind.
      Cheers.

    • Bev says:

      11:47am | 29/02/12

      Cynicised says:12:00pm | 29/02/12

      I merely resent the fact that no discussion on the Punch about issues affecting women can be had without Eric twisting the agenda to suit his own cause.

      Ever thought that if there was more balance in the media and that the great majority of articles only mention the womans side and ignore men
      people would not have to push men’s barrows.  Point in question in the Age today an article reporting on a study of how divorce affected people.
      http://www.theage.com.au/lifestyle/life/divorce-more-deadly-for-young-women-20120224-1truw.html
      The report was gender neutral and reported on how divorce affected people (not just woman). The article title: Divorce more deadly for young women.  No mention of men just the problems women face as if men were not affected by divorce. Though the study reported that both sexes could and did have serious problems.  In the light of this continuing media bias naturally people will react.  I would hardly call it whining when one gender is either ignored or bashed continually.

    • The Free says:

      02:49pm | 29/02/12

      Cynicised -  “The Cult Of Erick is alive and well”

      I ask are you capable of making a cogent point?  You are quite the dab hand at ad hominen insults, but seem somewhat lacking in the ability to back up a single word you write.


      Show me where Eric has been misogynistic?

      Show me the money?

      Or you could just respond and accuse me of being bitter and twisted, in fact I don’t think you’ll back up your fallacious arguments, because you can’t.

    • Jane2 says:

      07:57am | 29/02/12

      “It would be equally easy to just say the human race would end, but that wouldn’t necessarily be true since biological science could probably find a way.”

      True, the big question is how quickly would males get over their homophobia?

    • year of the dragon says:

      08:48am | 29/02/12

      Jane2 says:08:57am | 29/02/12

      “True, the big question is how quickly would males get over their homophobia? “

      What a nasty, sexist comment Jane: not to mention having no basis in fact. I wonder what men have done to you to make you think this.

    • PsychoHyena says:

      11:45am | 29/02/12

      @Jane2 I wonder how quickly would females get over their homophobia. The problem is across both sexes Jane2, I know more women who have attacked lesbian and bi-sexual girls than men who have attacked gay and bi-sexual guys.

      And if it meant the survival of the species, I wouldn’t care what gender I had sex with.

    • TimB says:

      08:02am | 29/02/12

      The best part about Erick’s articles is his avatar.

      Erick- The original faceless man smile

    • Chris L says:

      08:57am | 29/02/12

      Uncle Kevvie’s heart skips a beat whenever someone mentions them.

    • The righteous one says:

      09:53am | 29/02/12

      have you noticed that Erick’s avatar look like the tin tin

    • John says:

      01:07am | 01/03/12

      @Tim

      I agree. The rest is his usual tedious crap.

    • Tim says:

      08:10am | 29/02/12

      On 6.

      This may be true for older men and women but far less so for younger generations.

      I’m a far better cook and housekeeper than most of the women I know and the majority of my friends are the same.

      There’s a reason why most of the world’s best chefs are men.

    • Fiona says:

      02:13pm | 29/02/12

      Which is??

    • stephen says:

      08:11am | 29/02/12

      Motherhood is important.
      So’s childbirth, and I’m thankful I can build a shed and take up woodwork, and let her take the pain.
      And was it worth it, Erick ?

      The things you fail to gain
      in that list, which is less than portent,
      is your reason for lessening the attributes, too, of Man :
      that we double up when love is unblind, Mothers make fortune, and boys disdain.

    • AdamC says:

      08:32am | 29/02/12

      Women always talk about how they can muti-task. Is that really true? I mean, I know I can’t multi-task, but is it really a gendered thing? (Let’s face it a lot of the gals have trouble doing more than one thing at once too!)

      (An obvious exception to this rule is my ability to work and comment on the Punch at the same time. Honest ...)

    • TChong says:

      09:36am | 29/02/12

      adamC
      as i posted, above, this claim that women are better “,multi tasking” has no basis, at all.
      As someone who studies neurology for a living, I can vouch that NO scientiifically based research ( double blinds, gender neutral, large sample size etc) has ever reached such findings. Repeat, none.
      What such studies has shown ,repeatedly, that men and women of similar backgrounds, education, etc etc react, and problem solve exactly the same.

    • Kate says:

      10:10am | 29/02/12

      Depends on the person I reckon.

      My fiance is dead-set shithouse at it. Can’t even hold a conversation while watching TV or reading. I do uni work, talk, and watch TV at the same time as a matter of habit.
      However, this doesn’t mean all men suck at it and all women can manage it perfectly.

    • Kika says:

      10:40am | 29/02/12

      I don’t know. I am pretty good at it. I can handle a few things at once. Like working and blogging on the punch (making sure I get all my work done at the same time! That’s multi tasking!)

      As for my husband… nope. He can’t. He can’t manage a few things at once. Spins his brain out. He admits he can’t do it. The only thing I can’t multi task at is talking on the phone and someone talking to me while I am on the phone. That shts me to tears. My old boss used to stand there and talk to me while I was on the phone expecting I can listen to her and the person on the phone and not being rude to either…

    • Wynston Cruso says:

      02:30pm | 29/02/12

      A lot of girls I know have trouble doing one thing at a time. If you’re doing more than one thing at a time, chances are you’re doing both things poorly, I certainly wouldn’t advertise that I multitask, or be proud of it if I did.

    • Joan says:

      08:33am | 29/02/12

      Scott Fitzgerald i1920 told reporter on eve of marriage to Zelda ~ ` I think just being in love- doing it well- is work eough for a woman. If she keeps her house the way it should be kept, and makes herself look pretty when her husband comes home in the evening, and loves him and helps him with his work and encourages him- oh I think that`s the sort of work that will save her`.  Sounds very much like Erik 2012

    • gobsmack says:

      08:43am | 29/02/12

      “Decorativeness”
      Actually if a man wants cushion covers, bowls of fake fruit and a cabinet full of waterford crystal, he is more than capable of getting that stuff himself.  The reason men don’t is because they don’t like that shit.
      This is really a secondary trait.
      It’s like a woman who has come off a long term relationship and starts missing the sight of mens underwear strewn around the bedroom floor (she ruefully realises this was a sign of a man in her house).

    • Emma says:

      09:39am | 29/02/12

      Hmm I have heard differently. I actually have been told (by men) that they appreciate the soft and warm touch a woman can give to a home. When I moved in with my former partner, his place was so sad. A broken couch supported by phone books, no lamps, pictures, kitchen equipment minimal, old towels and sheets…. We bought a complete new set of furniture together and I put flower and candle stuff on the tables and he really loved it. I would not though have asked him to change his office, as I respected his personal space as well.

    • Blind Freddy says:

      08:49am | 01/03/12

      I thought he meant that women are decorative, not good at decorating- I think gay men already have that cornered.

    • Peter says:

      08:53am | 29/02/12

      I think i’m going to be ill.

    • subotic says:

      08:56am | 29/02/12

      That’s the way kids; kick the white Australian male when he says yes, then kick the bugger when he says no, and then stand there scratching your arses wondering why the poor sods take their own lives so bloody often.

      Hope you tall-ass poppies all choke on your soy milk lattes.

    • spartacus says:

      08:59am | 29/02/12

      When retiring to the bedroom be prompt as possible. Whilst feminine hygiene is of the your tired partner does not want to queue for the bathroom. Remember to look your best when going to bed.

      Try to look welcoming and sexy no face-cream or hair-rollers as can be shocking to a man last thing at night.

      When it comes to the possibility of intimate relations with your man it is important to remember your place in life and in particular your commitment to obey him.
      Should your man suggest sex then agree humbly all the while being mindful that a man’s satisfaction is more important than a woman’s.

      When he reaches his moment of fulfillment a small moan from yourself is encouraging to him and quite sufficient to indicate any enjoyment that you may have had.

      Should your man suggest any of the more unusual practices be obedient and uncomplaining but register any reluctance by remaining silent. It is likely that your man will then fall promptly asleep so adjust your clothing, freshen up and apply your night time face and hair care products.

      You may then set the alarm so that you can arise shortly before him in the morning.

      This will enable you to have his morning cup of tea ready when he awakes.

    • Govt@FauxCitizen says:

      08:59am | 29/02/12

      @Erick. I couldn’t stop at 7 especialy for my better half,

      8. Toughness the kind of physical and mental toughness it takes to birth and raise children and overgrown child partners.
      9. Leadership and organisational skills the kind that reminds you ever so
      subtley about certain events.Past Current and Future


      10. PMS

      Putting. up with
      Mens
      Shit

    • mk says:

      09:19am | 29/02/12

      Beautiful smile Your half is a lucky woman

    • Fiona says:

      02:19pm | 29/02/12

      10. Potential murder suspect or pass my shotgun, they’ve always made me laugh.

    • Tony of Poorakistan says:

      09:02am | 29/02/12

      1. Blowjobs
      2. Spanking
      3. Blowjobs
      4. Bondage
      5. Blowjobs
      6. Sex
      7. Blowjobs

    • Zeta says:

      10:01am | 29/02/12

      lol +1

    • Dan Webster says:

      10:06am | 29/02/12

      Tony, the list is what you will miss, not what you dream about.

    • Brad says:

      10:26am | 29/02/12

      Interesting that you like to be spanked and treated roughly.  Did you know that many Psychiatrists believe that such perversions are based on a person’s profound and deep sense of inadequacy that manifests itself as sexual deviancy?  You can get help, you know.  Google “treatment for sexual masochism” and you might find some people that can help you in your area.  Good luck!

    • Economist says:

      11:20am | 29/02/12

      Brad, while Psychiatry has it’s place, the over analysis of the human condition contains a lot of bullshit. I suggest you study the history of Psychiatry to understand how it changed from being archaic, particularly with treatments to just diagnostic. What Tony’s said is not perverse, it’s a joke. The problem for Tony is that he’s obsessed with blowjobs, seriously they’re overrated, and blokes can do those things on his list as well, and probably could be better at it.

    • huh says:

      11:40am | 29/02/12

      You could get all those things from men you know tony

    • SimonFromLakemba says:

      01:45pm | 29/02/12

      @Economist

      Just close your eyes aye? wink

    • Tony of Poorakistan says:

      04:19pm | 29/02/12

      Dan - I would think one would imply the other

      Brad - what does your psychiatrist say about blokes that like to smack naughty girls’ bottoms? Always happy to discuss the finer points of flagellation with another kinkster and most psychiatrists are twisted enough to hide behind a spiral staircase. 
       
      Economist - I prefer to think of it as a healthy interest rather than an obsession wink

    • Peter says:

      09:05am | 29/02/12

      Seriously, Erick, like wow.  Listen:  I went to University side by side women.  They equally topped the classes.  Many were smart, sharp, funny, dynamic and had superb work ethics.  Then, when I entered the workforce as a junior lawyer, again, side by side the same women, they continued to show their merit, toe to toe with men.  There was simply no contest between us.  Women kicked goals just as men did (and equally failed, just as men did). 

      But I get the impression from your incredibly condescending list, that you simply do not get what women are really capable of .  “Smiles”, “Decorativeness”, “Emotional Support” ... give me a break.  Women, seriously, are equally capable and sharp as men.  We have no monopoly on how to run things.  It’s just that babies come along and women are effectively taken out of the picture.  They (women) have a different set of priorities, when it comes down to it. 

      Reading your silly list I think you really don’t understand women at all.  Rather, they are a caricature based on your mother, perhaps.  They really are better than that.  You need to rethink this.

    • Kika says:

      09:49am | 29/02/12

      EXCELLENT COMMENT…. I equally found Erick’s lame attempt at appreciating women to be just as misogynistic as he always has and will be.

    • Emma says:

      10:37am | 29/02/12

      I can see the point but I think Erick was picturing a partner rather than a colleague, so the “setting” for the list probably was not the workforce. And I dont think it was an exclusive list either. There were seven points. You cant list everything in seven points.

      I dont think a woman that can decorate, smile and give emotional support cannot at the same time be a kick ass lawyer.

    • Peter says:

      11:00am | 29/02/12

      Emma, lol, what you suggest makes it even worse.  Seriously, the list reads like a want ad for a Geisha Girl.

      How about wanting and loving a real woman?  Like the kind i’ve met and worked alongside.  They are sexy.  They are smart.  They are capable of more than decorating your apartment or smiling prettily.  Not some 1950’s fantasy.  Geez, talk about insecurity.

    • The Free says:

      11:04am | 29/02/12

      @ Kika

      Trigger Warning:  *Claim Of Misogyny Alert”

      Erick likes things about women - Feminist Response = Misogyny

      Yes, lots of hate in his article, I guess you’d find hate in a big bowl of soup?

      How about YOU show one single post anywhere by Eric that show demonstratively that he hates women?

      Can’t wait for you to back up your claims, I’ve got my popcorn and a bowl of that hateful, angry soup you dislike so much….

      Wating?

      Still waiting?

      Snoooooooozzzzze!

    • Ando says:

      11:07am | 29/02/12

      Youve just listed how women are the same as men. If women are just as good at being lawyers as men you would hardly include it in a list of things you like about women. Fairly poor comprehension for a Lawyer.  Provide a list of 7 things you’d miss about women( you can only mention sex once).

    • Peter says:

      11:41am | 29/02/12

      @Ando - try to imagine a woman who is capable of a lot more than sewing and smiling.  When you achieve that, then we can talk.  ‘Til then, I think we’re just not on the same page.

    • Emma says:

      11:45am | 29/02/12

      Peter

      I am a studied and working woman as well. I earn my own money and do my own things. But I dont find it insulting when a man appreciates my smile or sense for decoration. Why are references towards domestic skills offensive nowadays? I like it when my flatmates say they like the female touch around the house, or that I bake cookies for them when I feel like it. It does not make me a less independent woman. In fact I would consider it balanced. And another one: When I am love I love to spoil my man rotten. And I am not ashamed of it.

    • Kika says:

      12:14pm | 29/02/12

      @the Free -  Why not? Everything he mentioned makes me feel sick… smiles? hugs?affection?  Men are just as capable of those. What makes them uniquely feminine other than the cultural sterotype that women are the fairer sx? I think Erick & Co have proven that we’re just as capable of aggression, vengeance and being as nasty as men are.

      @Emma… Once you’re married everything will get tedious… even spoiling. I try to spoil my husband and I don’t even get a thanks these days! And trust me… everything gets tedious. Just eat an apple and think of the Queen as my Nanny used to say… Hahaa.

    • Peter says:

      12:15pm | 29/02/12

      @Emma, i think you miss my point.  It is not, as you say, “offensive” to admire the way women smile (but surely he does not mean all women’s smiles, i mean wtf?).  But to go to the trouble of writing an article, a published article, which lists the 7 things you like about women and not being able to rise above anything further than the way they smile and/or decorate your apartment - hey, c’mon!  How about citing their immense collective, personal strength?  Their tenacity?  Their compassion? Their ethics.  Their ability to lead society and facilitate peace, to bind us together.  To heal.  How about their unique viewpoints or differing set of priorities? 

      You will recall that women were treated as chattel (property) not more than 100 years ago.  My grandmother’s generation wasn’t even allowed to vote!  Yet, they have fought and risen beyond all that and have, through their sheer willpower, moved society forward, while all the time raising the next generation. 

      And that is my point.  Women are not a bunch of pretty barbie-girls, who’s only role is to provide us with emotional support and smiles.  I’ve seen way better than that and we’ve got to stop shoving them into little boxes like this.

      But then again, perhaps Erick is merely being sarcastic - a troll - and I’ve fallen for it.  Jokes on me, i suppose.

    • Emma says:

      12:39pm | 29/02/12

      Peter

      I like the things you list you like about women as well.

      Maybe its because I have raised by both my parents to be independent, educate myself and achieve what I want to achieve. I dont have the “women where property” thinking at the back of my head. I have no relation to it. I am just equal to a man without having to make an effort to be.

      The other day a male friend ordered for me in a restaurant. I could have been upset and say “Thanks, but I can speak for myself” but I found it cute.

      I see you have doubts if Erick sees it that way too: That women are naturally his equal or if his list reflects a certain ideal he fancies. I must admit that considering most of his posts here I cant really picture him with an overly opinionated woman myself.

    • Jimbo75 says:

      01:05pm | 29/02/12

      Peter,

      Your last comment in this particular part of the thread shows where you are going wrong in terms of this opinion piece.

      It is not, as you indicate a list of “the 7 things you like about women”. It is a list of distinct things he would miss.

      Rather than denigrate the author why don’t you to list seven things you would miss (ie. things that you consider to be prevalent in women and not in men) were the world to be suddenly devoid of women.

    • Tim says:

      01:12pm | 29/02/12

      Peter,
      he didn’t write an article, it was a comment in one of the open thread’s that the Punch decided to publish as a thread. Nice comprehension fail.

      And he was writing things he’d miss specific to women, not men.

      Would you honestly say that you’d miss women’s intelligence if you could only list seven things?
      Their work ethic?
      Their dynamic behaviour?

      All of them aren’t specific to women.

      But hey if that’s actually what you’d miss about women then I pity you.

      Perhaps you should try reading and comprehending an article before commenting. As a Lawyer, surely you shouldn’t be so stupid.

    • Erick says:

      01:27pm | 29/02/12

      @Jimbo75 & Tim - Once again, spot on.

      It seems that, unlike your good selves, some people have difficultyunderstanding the purpose and content of this article/comment. I can only hope that your own comments can educate them.

    • Ben C says:

      01:33pm | 29/02/12

      @ Peter and Kika

      Judging by your responses, your blind hatred for Erick has preceded what he has to say.

    • Peter says:

      01:44pm | 29/02/12

      @Jim and Tim - I thought I’d given some really good examples of female attributes above in response to Emma’s comment.  I think they give women a little more credit for their existance on this Earth than doing the dishes well and providing emotional support when needed, wouldn’t you agree?  Seriously, don’t you think we can do better than that?

    • SimonFromLakemba says:

      01:55pm | 29/02/12

      @ Ben C

      What you fail to see I think is that we can only judge people here by their words. I personally don’t know ‘Erick’ but from his writings I can judge him based on that.

      What Kika & Peter have written is in a response to Erick and his personal views. It is a bit hard to judge someone on here and not be personal.

      Also id say that a lot of views put forward here a lot of people wouldn’t say that in real life to real people, they just feel ‘tougher’ behind a screen.

    • Economist says:

      02:04pm | 29/02/12

      Tim, Jimbo and Erick, in defence of Peter, well the list is not clear on that it’s distinct to women. The list is antiquated. As a man I do all those things easily, yes including admiriing other men for a nicely worn suit.. I’ve interpreted Peter’s comment as equivalent to what Tory originally highlighted as “Solutions”.

      Women, in the workplace and home can provide a different perspective on a problem and different solutions that can be perceived as specific to their sex.  I’ve worked in all male environments and environments where there are woman and the cultures are different.

      Also take for example 7 you’ve made it to generic. Tory was specific.

    • Jimbo75 says:

      02:16pm | 29/02/12

      Peter,
      I think you have misinterpreted the basis for Erick’s list. You see it as a list of things he likes about women and/or a list of things that Erick sees as women’s most valuable contributions to society. It is neither of these things – it is simply a list of things that he thinks are uniquely female that he would miss.
      Your response to Emma lists collective and personal strength, tenacity, compassion, ethics, ability to lead society and facilitate peace, bind and heal as things that he could have listed. Based on the stated intention and purpose of Erick’s list, by claiming he missed these things he would be saying that “they were things that that men just can’t provide in the same way” in doing so he would effectively ignoring the efforts of, for example, people like Nelson Mandela, Mohandas Gandhi and Jimmy Carter.

      You, and others, have reframed the debate to attack and denigrate the author. Very poor form.

    • Tim says:

      02:45pm | 29/02/12

      Peter,
      I wouldn’t necessarily miss women’s intelligence, I know both men and women who are extremely intelligent and if there were no women I would be able to handle not having intelligent women around.

      I wouldn’t miss women’s work ethic and I can’t imagine one person sitting around going “damn I really miss those chicks and their amazing work ethic”.

      Seriously have a look at the rest of your comments and realise that yes, you can do better than that.

    • Ben C says:

      02:46pm | 29/02/12

      @ SimonFromLakemba

      OK, fair call about Peter, but I wouldn’t give Kika the benefit of the doubt - just look at her response:

      “I equally found Erick’s lame attempt at appreciating women to be just as misogynistic as he always has and will be.”

      Look, I get sick of Erick’s constant posting about men’s rights, and sometimes hijacking of threads, just like the next person, but I don’t let his reputation precede him. I take each post of his on its own merit - like this one, for example. In all the time that I’ve read Erick’s posts, I’ve kept his reputation in the back of my mind, but I don’t let it colour how I read his next comment. I’m sure other people can do that too.

    • Kika says:

      04:54pm | 29/02/12

      I don’t hate Erick… Why would I? I don’t know him. If I ever met him he’s probably a lovely person. I actually admire that he has the guts to stand up for what he believes in and has a position on things. Nothing irks me more than a fence sitter.  You need a ying to your yang. 

      Whilst I don’t appreciate how Erick hijacks every thread to be something about women, just because I examine and critique his arguments doesn’t mean I hate him! It’s all part of the scholarly process, isn’t it? I don’t disagree with him on everything. I actually think he has a point on some things (Fathers are often overlooked in custody battles) but you need substance to your arguments and using data and evidence from non-biased sources is not the way to present a logical argument about something.

    • Don says:

      09:10am | 29/02/12

      I’m pretty sure gay guys can take care of 1-6. Unfortunately we still need no. 7 :(

    • Yawn says:

      09:11am | 29/02/12

      Is anyone else a little tired of gender based articles on here? I have healthy balance of men & women in different areas of my life, and all are unique and wonderful in their own way. I pity people people who continously have to lump people together to make sense of life. Here’s a crazy thought, try taking people on their own merit.

    • spartacus says:

      09:16am | 29/02/12

      If females are so multi skilled—-how is it that they cannot have a headache and
      sex at the same time??

    • Lauren says:

      09:32am | 29/02/12

      If you haven’t worked out that ‘I have a headache’ is (often) code for ‘I really cannot be bothered tonight’ then….. wink

    • M says:

      10:14am | 29/02/12

      So it’s better to lie to your partner than tell him the truth, lauren?

    • AFR says:

      10:58am | 29/02/12

      Actually, a good shag releases Serotonin which is good for reducing a headache.

    • lol says:

      11:42am | 29/02/12

      After your earlier post about women & sex spartacus, I don’t think any sane woman would be keen to bed you, headache or not!

    • Kika says:

      12:20pm | 29/02/12

      @AFR - the key is GOOD…. and therein lies your answer! hahaha.

    • iansand says:

      09:33am | 29/02/12

      Where are conversation and intellectual stimulation in Erick’s list?

      Why am I not surprised?

    • Jimbo75 says:

      11:16am | 29/02/12

      Iansand,

      I’m pretty sure Erick, much like Tory’s list, is trying to identify those things that he considers are uniquely female that he would miss. Given that both men and women are capable of conversation and intellectual stimulation these things would not be missing if the world were suddenly devoid of women.

      Of course the nature of the conversation and intellectual stimulation may change, but I suspect this is what Erick was alluding to with his point about emotional support.

    • Peter says:

      11:52am | 29/02/12

      @Jimbo, i think you are being too generous.  This is a list of what Erick would miss if women weren’t around.  Apparently he won’t miss their intellect, or their opinions or pretty much anything about them that smacks of equal footing with men.  It is condescending, to say the least.

    • Jimbo75 says:

      12:05pm | 29/02/12

      Peter,

      To the extent you think I am being generous I think you are being deliberately negative towards this opinion piece and its author. Note the following:  ” So what’s left are those nice things that men just can’t provide in the same way. “

      Therefore the he things that Erick has omitted are those things where he thinks men and women are able to provide equal contributions to society.

      If Erick were to have listed opinions or intelligence then he would have, effectively, been stating that women, as a whole, have a different form or intelligence to men - and wouldn’t that have opened up a can of worms.

      But then again, as they say in the modern classics, h8ers gonna h8.

    • Erick says:

      12:05pm | 29/02/12

      @Jimbo75 - “I’m pretty sure Erick, much like Tory’s list, is trying to identify those things that he considers are uniquely female that he would miss. Given that both men and women are capable of conversation and intellectual stimulation these things would not be missing if the world were suddenly devoid of women.”

      Spot on! That’s what intelligence and reading comprehension will do for you.

      Though this does remind me of two things I’d have added to the list if it was longer:

      8. The sound of women’s voices. The pleasant ones, that is - some women just don’t have a nice voice. But others are mellifluous and lovely.

      9. Talking with women. While it’s true that men are equally capable of conversation and intellectual stimulation, there is a special pleasure in chatting with women. This is probably related to the whole attraction thing.

    • Peter says:

      01:11pm | 29/02/12

      @Erick and Jimbo - yes, you’re quite right, fellas.  It’s only a list of things we like about women which men cannot already provide for themselves!  So, men do not have that unique way of smiling, or of decorating our apartments.  Or of shaggin us.  And perhaps at sewing we are bit clumsy as well (except those poofs in the Navy!).  Other than that, we pretty much don’t need them!  Oh me, and my daft comprehension skills.

    • Davy says:

      03:10pm | 29/02/12

      @peter….anybody who says that women dont have 2 feet just like us blokes is a fool.

    • Surely says:

      03:23pm | 29/02/12

      Peter,
      Women do have a unique way of shagging us.Surely even you can give Erick that one. You got one thing right , you do have daft comprehension.

    • nossy says:

      09:36am | 29/02/12

      Top read Erick - well done fella!

    • Kika says:

      10:00am | 29/02/12

      ” Household skills. Sure, men can cook, sew, and raise children, but women are just better at these sorts of things. It isn’t just cultural - the human species has incorporated some sex differences at a genetic level”

      Interesting. So Erick if you even admit that women ARE BETTER at raising chldren and looking after a home, why would you think a Court would think otherwise??

      I generally agree with you. The smiles part, maybe not. My husband has a beautiful smile - one of those 100 teeth smiles Sri Lankans are so good at. But the rest generally yes. It’s instinct. We need to be demure and get out own way, nesting is instincting and the mothering instinct helps us with emotionally helping and supporting others.

    • Bev says:

      10:39am | 29/02/12

      Interesting. So Erick if you even admit that women ARE BETTER at raising chldren and looking after a home, why would you think a Court would think otherwise??

      Erick rails at feminists and courts deciding that fathers are not needed at ALL except as a walking wallet and sperm donor.

    • Kika says:

      12:18pm | 29/02/12

      A case where a father gets absolutely NO access would be few and far between. Erick’s grip, wouldn’t you say, is that a father is overlooked at raising the kids. I am just plainly asking why a Court would grant custody to the father if even Erick admits women are better at looking after the home and raising the kids.

    • St. Michael says:

      12:24pm | 29/02/12

      Bev, you just answered your own question.  Erick’s complaints at the Family Court system are because the Family Court does, in fact, regard men as not needed in their children’s lives except as a walking wallet and sperm donor, and consequently shuts them out more or less entirely.

      That is not the same thing as contending women are better at raising children and looking after a home.  Unless you are proposing that men are simply not needed in their children’s lives at all.

    • Someone who appears to know jack says:

      02:27pm | 29/02/12

      The likes of you and Erick, St Michael is that clearly you have no understanding or have never studied family law.

      It is very simple to yell out that men are denied their rights by the courts but given that even in modern society, women generally are still the majority carers of children in marriages/relationships in terms of numbers and time, the Court will naturally award custody of children to mothers. Fathers on the other hand, to today, still are paid a better wage and therefore it would be better for them to support the children.

      The test used by the Court is “in the best interests of the child/children”, NOT what is best for the female parents.

      Therefore, common contact orders are the mother to have the children all the time except every second weekend. This can be of course altered upon agreement of the parties for more contact or parties can apply for a more equal division of care, jointly or separately if it need be.

      I have a friend who has separated parents (not sure if they were divorced) and to this day, I found their arrangement to look after my friend and their sibling a bit odd. The children spent weekends with the father (that’s fair enough) but Wednesday nights with their father too. I asked her how practical was this for them. My friend found it difficult and confusing to start with but after seven years of it, they got the hang of it. Still the arrangement was odd and there could’ve cause possibly other problems in a different situation. Thankfully, everyone in the family was civil enough to get through. And anyone who’s seen a very bad divorce with fighting over an unreturned toothbrush or t-shirt will know how bad it can get.

    • M says:

      10:02am | 29/02/12

      “last week’s leadership clusterpunch.”

      I loled hard.

      Also, what does Jane2 mean about getting over our homophobia? Does she imply that if we aren’t sexually attracted to men that we are homophobes?

    • AFR says:

      12:46pm | 29/02/12

      I think I heard somewhere that realistically only about 1% of people can truly “multi-task”, and we’re talking people like jet-fighter pilots.

    • Dan Webster says:

      10:11am | 29/02/12

      I’d miss the 51%

      (51% princess / 49% bitch)

    • Kika says:

      10:37am | 29/02/12

      Hahahaha…. ! LiKE!

    • RyaN says:

      10:19am | 29/02/12

      You know what I would miss if there were no women?

      Half of the population!

    • Bruno says:

      11:55am | 29/02/12

      article by whom?

      go on Erick!

    • Erick One Eye says:

      11:57am | 29/02/12

      Pretty obvious Erick likes his women pretty, submissive and in the home.

    • bob says:

      12:18pm | 29/02/12

      I’m still not convinced Erick actually *likes* women.

    • Tim says:

      01:22pm | 29/02/12

      And…...

      What’s actually wrong with a man wanting this?

    • Erick One Eye says:

      01:36pm | 29/02/12

      @bob - I tend to agree. Too much one eyed anger.

      @Tim - Nothing if you want to live in the 19th century.

    • Tim says:

      01:57pm | 29/02/12

      Erick One Eye,

      Is that all you’ve got? Why with actually specific reasons please.

      I’m not saying that this is what Erick actually wants but if he did what exactly would be wrong with a man wanting that specifically?

    • Erick One Eye says:

      02:39pm | 29/02/12

      “...what exactly would be wrong with a man wanting that specifically?”

      What part of “Nothing if you want to live in the 19th century” is too complicated for you?

    • Davy says:

      03:30pm | 29/02/12

      Ahh the vagaries of fashion. What used to be acceptable and desirable in the 19th century will be again. Even now as we see the wheels turning, the feminist ideals slowly crumble. What woman really wants a SNAG anyway.

    • Tim says:

      04:13pm | 29/02/12

      Erick One Eye,

      what part of specifically don’t you get?

      A century isn’t a reason, it’s a period of time.

    • Erick One Eye says:

      05:39pm | 29/02/12

      @Tim - actually there is a reason in there, the fact that you’re not capable of understanding simple arguments is your problem. But it does explain why you’re an Erick supporter.

      @Davy -“feminist ideals slowly crumble” what like treating women as equals? You over estimate the influence of someone like Erick who’s as known for being first to post on any thread as anything else.

    • Tim says:

      09:29pm | 29/02/12

      Erick One Eye,
      Nice attempted dodge but fail.

      Unless you’re saying Erick has a a time machine that can take him to the 19th century?

      Still waiting for a reason. Tick tock.

    • Erick One Eye says:

      06:47am | 01/03/12

      Nice attempt at understanding but fail.

      Try again. Unless you’re happy being one of Ericks mentally challenged supporters.

    • Matt says:

      12:29pm | 29/02/12

      I was hoping Erick would be the first one to respond to the thread. :(

    • Erick says:

      01:35pm | 29/02/12

      @Matt - Sorry. I thought it was enough just to have the opening post, and not to be too greedy. Call it the 0th comment?

    • Robert S McCormick says:

      12:32pm | 29/02/12

      A bit one-sided, Erick?
      You point out all the good things you would miss.
      But what about all the bad things? Or are you trying to tell us that there are none?
      In that they are no different to men. There are good ones & bad ones.
      Child sex abusers? Mostly male but women are not exempt.
      Domestic Violence? Women can be every bit as vicious as men. It just takes a different & some would say a far more damaging form.
      Can’t see the relevance of Jane2’s homophobia crack against men. Homophobia is every bit as prevalent amongst women & often it is very much more vicious in it’s exercise.
      I remember when a relative was having problems with her teenage son - as many parent do during that difficult period. I had the gall to suggest that maybe part of his problem could be related to his sexuality. I got the dressing-down of my life! The unrestrained viciousness & hatred expressed towards homosexuals shocked the unshockable me! She then tried to back-track with silver-tongued excuses: “I don’t dislike homosexuals, you know, I just don’t want any of my children to face the life of loneliness so many homosexuals endure” That sort of bullshit.
      If there were no women I would, indeed, miss them. It is not neccessary to have sex with someone to have a good relationship, different opinions. Putting any idea of the physical aside we are complimentary to each other. I would hate to live in a society where there were no women. I can imagine nothing worse, more soul-destroying than living in an all-male situation. How any man, or woman, can lock themselves away in monasteries, nunneries is beyond me. It is totally un-natural.

    • Erick says:

      01:31pm | 29/02/12

      @Robert S. McCormick - See my caveat, above, or even the introduction to the list.

      This is in no way intended to be a comprehensive evaluation of everything about women. It’s just a short list of some of the things I like about them.

    • amy says:

      12:41pm | 29/02/12

      hmmm….I dont exactally conform to any of those

      does that make me an evil feminist?

    • TheHuntress says:

      12:46pm | 29/02/12

      I really enjoyed this, Erick. I’ve read many of your comments on here and I’ve chosen not to respond to any of them for personal reasons. I can see that many comments are responding negatively to your list, but personally (and yes, I am one of those crazy feminist people!) I think it’s wonderful that you can still appreciate the femininity of women. Being a feminist doesn’t mean losing your feminity or getting ahead at the expense of men. It’s about being equal as human beings and having equal opportunities available to us.  Men and women are perfectly capable of achieving the same things, but both men and women bring something a little extra special to this world.

    • Erick says:

      04:53pm | 29/02/12

      @The Huntress - Thank you for that.

      It’s good to see that there might be some common ground out there.

    • Jimbo75 says:

      12:50pm | 29/02/12

      Amy,

      No - I guess just means you are probably not Erick’s type. I’n not sure why you think it would translate to you being an evil feminist.

    • James1 says:

      04:56pm | 29/02/12

      Oh how I wish I could be a fly on the wall when you get home tonight, Erick.  I can see your partner now, questioning why the article carries the title “What I love about women” rather than “What I love about one particular woman”...

    • Veronique says:

      06:21pm | 29/02/12

      I read the punch comments often and never have I found Erick’s posts mysogynistic in nature, rather - they are honest, clear and concise.  Yes they address the inadequacies of Family Law and unfortunately S60B often does find children residing for the most part, with his/her/their mother.
      His posts also address, amongst many other issues, the apparent self-entittled princess syndrome so inherent in current society.  He does so, not in a hateful manner, but in an honest one. In my working life, and indeed also in my personal life (but I restrict contact with these negative influences) I deal with many diatribes about the opposite gender which is, to be quite honest, tiresome and borne from some twisted sense of sanctimony.  There may be some truth to their pov, but they don’t take any accountability for their actions or learn from their mistakes.  In ten years time I know I will be listening to the same hateful diatribes from the same people because they can’t move on and accept the opportunity to improve themselves.  These hateful diatribes are from both men and women - not restricted to one gender.  If you try to point out, with great tact, that this attitude is not conducive to a successful and or happy future they whine, whinge and resort to personal attacks. 
      By pointing some out some the issues that he does, he is not criticising women personally, he is merely observing.  There are males and females who denigrate the opposite gender for the sake of denigrating. lamenting the lack of good women/men out there which just illuminates their pea sized organs and tunnel visions.  I haven’t observed this in Eric’s posts and actually find his posts enjoyable to peruse and not at all offensive. This article refers to the things that he likes about women, that doesn’t mean that this is universal.  It’s his point of view and he is entitled to it. 

      Good article Eric.  I enjoyed it. 

      The rest of you, stop yer bloody whinging wink

    • year of the dragon says:

      06:48pm | 29/02/12

      It is interesting the number of people who have written posts critical of Erick’s article for it’s sexism themselves resorting to sexist generalisations.

      I note that none (zero) of those critical of Erick’s article commented adversely on Tory’s article.

    • Nathan Explosion says:

      08:38pm | 29/02/12

      There’s always one thing that even the most kick ass chick can’t do:

      Hermione can’t draw
      Hermione can’t draw
      Hermione cannot draw
      She just reads books and she cannot draw
      Even if she’s reading
      A how to draw to book

      http://youtu.be/x3VbFHiGNHU

 

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Abbott’s crass logic: trash the Parliament in order save it

Abbott’s crass logic: trash the Parliament in order save it

An email was sent to almost every politician in Australia this week saying that someone should cut off…

Our special forces don’t always need special treatment

Our special forces don’t always need special treatment

We admire them, but we’re not entirely sure why. We allow them to operate in the shadows; we rarely…

A good holiday is about unrest, not rest

A good holiday is about unrest, not rest

Like a fat full-stop, it lay in my hand. A small orange – not exactly fresh, but purchased anyway…

Nosebleed Section

choice ringside rantings

From: They must pay for one’s bitter disappointments

Michael S says:

"A teacher at Geelong Grammar had criticised her for using words that were too long, which had left her confused and had made her doubt her ability to write essays. She became ''quite distressed'' when her English marks began to fall." I can sympathise. My scholastic mentors conveyed to me a causal relationship… [read more]

From: Welfare for breeders is a bonus for everyone

Change Up! says:

I have no problem paying my taxes. As a single, childless person on a very decent income, I can afford it and not have my life severely altered. Plus I understand that my taxes paying for things like schools, childcare and infrastructure is ultimately a good thing. A better community is better for me… [read more]

Gentle jabs to the ribs

They must pay for one’s bitter disappointments

They must pay for one’s bitter disappointments

A private school girl’s family is sueing her elite, extremely expensive private school for not… Read more

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