Is it just Tracey Spicer, or are there a lot of people referring to themselves in the third person these days?

This Muppet has alot to answer for. Picture: AP.

Illeists abound in sport, politics and entertainment.

Michael Clarke, Andrew Bogut and Jeff Fenech use it as a form of self-aggrandisement; for Silvio Berlusconi and Richard Nixon, it’s an attempt to distance themselves from controversy.

Rapper Flavor Flav deserves some kind of award for referring to himself in the third person four times in the one interview.

Here’s a list of my top 20 illeists.

1. Silvio Berlusconi
The Italian Prime Minister refers to himself in the third person as the victim of left-wing judges and the media (at least, the parts of it he doesn’t control). “Without Silvio, the country would be in the hands of the left and you all know what would happen. The trials that they are going to throw against me are a farce. Long live Italy! Long live Berlusconi!” he declared.

2. Joe Biden
America’s vice president repeatedly talks about being “the best Biden he can be”.

3. Andrew Bogut
Since joining the National Basketball Association, the lanky Australian has echoed the illeists of America’s sporting elite. “This is such a great day in the life of Andrew Bogut, the family of Andrew Bogut,” said Andrew Bogut.

4. Michael Clarke
“Michael Clarke will be fine,” said Michael Clarke, shortly after he was dropped from the Test team. And, in a case of Special Subject: The Bleeding Obvious, “I’ll always be Michael Clarke and I hope that I can be successful being me”.

5. Denny Crane
I know – he’s not real. But William Shatner’s character on the TV show Boston Legal makes an art of illeism. In one episode, addressing reporters in the courthouse, he announced, “Denny Crane. My poop doesn’t smell. Comes out in pretty colors, pastels. Denny Crane.”

6. Elmo
The red Muppet has a lot to answer for, encouraging children around the world to declaim of themselves. “Elmo needs a hug,” then a slap. 

7. Matthew Hayden
Hayden is responsible for the virulent strain of illeism spreading through Australian cricket. “People still remember how the young Hayden would poke grimly round his front pad,” he once said. And, more recently, “Matthew Hayden was created in India in 2001.”

8. Jeff Fenech
“I hate that Jeff Fenech,” he once said, referring to the Marrickville Mauler of yesteryear. “I love what he represented. But I don’t like him.”

9. Flavor Flav
During an Entertainment Weekly profile, the US rapper worked in four   illeisms. On his resurgence: “Your man Flavor Flav is living! I’m sitting here doing an interview at the world-famous Ivy restaurant, with a piece of lemon inside my water. Can’t nothing be better than that.” On being down-and-out: “What happened to Flav during that time? I stayed home being a father. I got on drugs more. I got more stressed out. I kept getting arrested for driving with no license. And my personal appearance was not looking too cool.” On his new hobby, bowling: “Watch out, y’all! Flavor Flav’s first bowl of the day, right here! What’s it gonna be?” On making reality TV: “The best thing that happened to Flavor Flav was getting smacked in the face by Brigitte Nielsen and then Flavor Flav smacking the s— out of Brigitte. That’s what opened up the doors for Flavor Flav on national TV. It was a very historical moment.”

10. Rickey Henderson
Teammates reported seeing the Major League Baseball player standing naked in front of a mirror before a game, practising his swing, declaring, “Rickey’s the best! Rickey’s the best!” He once came into the clubhouse wearing a suede hat, announcing, “Rickey got a big ranch. Rickey got a big bull. Rickey got horses. Rickey got chickens and everything.”

11. Greg Inglis
The rugby league player takes it a step further, referring to himself using only initials. “People say that when big stages come, G.I. comes out, G.I. comes out to play.”

12. Michael Jordan
During a Hall of Fame acceptance speech, the basketball legend told the crowd, “Don’t be in a rush to try to find the next Michael Jordan. There’s not going to be a next Michael Jordan.”

13. Ken Lay
When Victoria’s Deputy Police Commissioner defended keeping his speeding fine secret, he repeatedly referred to himself in the third person to distance himself from the crime. “But I made that decision, I made it in good faith, and made it in the interest of making sure all Victorians were focused on slowing down and doing the right thing rather than Ken Lay doing a dumb thing and getting a speed camera fine,’’ he told reporters.

14. Benji Marshall
“The Benji I know plays with confidence,” the Wests Tigers five-eighth said last year.

15. John Mayer
The American singer is a rare beast – he’s a talking, tweeting, texting illeist. “If John Mayer has a wife and sends dirty text messages, then we got a story. And that’s why I won’t do that,” he told The Independent.

16. Richard Nixon
More than a decade before he was forced out of the White House, Nixon famously told journalists at what was purportedly his last press conference, “You won’t have Nixon to kick around any more”.

17. Mark Taylor
“Mark Taylor was one of our best batsmen last summer,” the former Australian cricket captain famously said. “If this season is Mark Taylor’s turn to miss out, so be it.”

18. Donald Trump
In a news story about the Miss Universe pageant, Donald Trump said, “I think this is the most beautiful group of women I’ve ever seen. In the old days, you got what you got. Now, Trump picks them. It makes a big difference.”

19. Michael Vick
When the American NFL quarterback pleaded guilty to a dog-fighting conspiracy charge, this was his apology: “I totally ask for forgiveness and understanding as I move forward to bettering Michael Vick the person, not the football player.”

20. Tiger Woods
According to Vanity Fair magazine, Tiger refers to himself in the 3rd person as “Ti”.

The last words go to British cyclist Chris Hoy, a breath of fresh air sweeping the Isle of Illeism.

“In the past 24 hours everyone has been offering an opinion on Chris Hoy,” remarked a journalist after Hoy won gold at the Beijing Olympics. “But what does Chris Hoy think of Chris Hoy?”

The cyclist responded, “Chris Hoy thinks that the day Chris Hoy refers to Chris Hoy in the third person is the day that Chris Hoy disappears up his own arse”.

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    • Tom says:

      07:34am | 13/04/10

      Tracey, With just a few exceptions (your good self, of course), the list is jam packed with w-nkers. Richard Nixon deserves his own category: An Evilleist.
      Cheers.

    • Old Clive says:

      08:46am | 13/04/10

      Talking about w-nkers. Just look at the government of the day. But I don’t know the common term for the female variety.

    • Roland March says:

      09:44am | 13/04/10

      I would suggest Tony Abbott falls into your category of w-nkers Old Clive but his hands are barely free, hes to busy peddling round the country, the good news for us we will be spared his passion pink budgie smugglers soon till next summer.

    • Anne71 says:

      12:45pm | 13/04/10

      You’d have to exclude Chris Hoy too - his response was pure gold!  Nice to see an elite athelete who doesn’t regard himself as the Second Coming.

    • Old Clive says:

      12:49pm | 13/04/10

      Hi there Roland,if you thinkTony fits into that category, I would hate to think of what you think of Rudd,Swan and that bloke from down Griffiths way. I don’t think they would pass the entrance test to the Maritime services Uniom or the Builders working Union.

    • Bitten says:

      08:37am | 13/04/10

      That Chris Hoy comment is pure gold. Not to mention a wonderfully humourous visual effect.

    • DG says:

      08:41am | 13/04/10

      Sorry Tracey

      You missed the greatest one ever .....“The Jimmy”, 1995’s Seinfeld episode where a guy called Jimmy talks to himself in the 3rd person.

      never will beaten! and the DG knows it!

    • Bitten says:

      08:57am | 13/04/10

      OMG yes! And the crazy shoes! And Kramer’s lisp!

    • mel Tormei says:

      10:19am | 13/04/10

      ...and too think Elaine dates “the Jimmy” !!!

    • halberstram says:

      09:16am | 13/04/10

      Congratulations Tracey.

      You finally wrote a column without mentioning Taj !

    • Rob says:

      11:22pm | 13/04/10

      Instead she channels Peter Fitzsimons, he’s been banging on about this for years.  Same examples as well.

    • Zeta says:

      09:18am | 13/04/10

      Forget the third person. The pros narrate themselves in the second person - “You are not the kind of guy who would be at a place like this at this time of the morning. But here you are, and you cannot say that the terrain is entirely unfamiliar, although the details are fuzzy.”

      Totally off-topic, but I just went to Wikipedia while trying to remember the first line of Jay McInerney’s Bright Lights Big City, which is probably the best book to ever employ a second person narrative, and discovered this amazing fact - Rielle Hunter, who had an affair with John Edwards in 2007, and had a kid with him in fact, was the basis for the character Alison Poole in McInerney’s ‘Story of My Life’, which detailed the real life incident where her horse was murdered. Bret Easton Ellis used her as a character in American Psycho.

      So thank you Tracey Spicer, without your article, I would never have discovered this amazing fact.

    • Henry says:

      10:01am | 13/04/10

      The only thing more wankerish than talking about yourself in the third person is asking yourself questions out aloud and answering them with prepared responses… a la KEVIN RUDD.

      There has to be a term for this but Krudd has turned it into an art form.  It makes me want to be physically ill when I see or hear it.

    • bf says:

      09:59am | 13/04/10

      Tracey - you may have to have a sex change to pull it off successfully (and yes I do know it’s a double entendre)

    • Willy K says:

      10:15am | 13/04/10

      Old Clive… women do it just as much as men possibly more!  They just don’t ever admit it!

    • Ben says:

      11:43am | 13/04/10

      Matt Damon (particularly in Team America)

    • Laura says:

      09:10am | 14/04/10

      Not to mention the “I’m f***ing Matt Damon” song, or the “I’m f***cking Ben Affleck” song… Google them!

    • Scott Glennon says:

      11:39am | 13/04/10

      I once dated a dude who would only speak in 3rd person while in nude I think I was drunk the first time, it was creepy when sober.
      I hope you haven’t recognised a fad or accidently started one! =P

    • Anne71 says:

      12:43pm | 13/04/10

      Yep, that would a big red flag right there. I take it you’re still running? wink

    • Scott Glennon says:

      01:13pm | 13/04/10

      @Anne71,

      Unfortunately he had to move interstate.. =P

    • bec says:

      11:44am | 13/04/10

      The new big thing of course is to add in a “the” before the name. As in, instead of someone being known as Bob, think of them referring to themselves (or others referring to them) as “The Bob”. Yanno. Like “The Jesus”, or “The Fonz”. Which I guess doesn’t make it so much as “the new big thing” as it is the retro thing now being rehashed.

    • Mike says:

      01:59pm | 13/04/10

      Mike thinks this might have started with The Fonz but has become popular due to The Todd (Scrubs). Anything The Todd says is usually accompanied by some sexual innuendo and then an associated high-five, eg. Banana Hammock Five.

      Mike likes this even though it is decidedly UnPC

    • Michael says:

      12:56pm | 13/04/10

      A little harsh on Kevin Lay as there was a genuine reason for telling it the way he did.

      I’d replace Kevin with Mark Skaife who continually refers to himself in conversation as ‘M. Skaife’.

    • TheBigMicka says:

      12:58pm | 13/04/10

      TheBigMicka believes there’s nothing wrong with anyone referring to themselves in the 3rd person, just so long as it’s not done seriously. 

      To further emphasise the Tongue in Cheekness of your 3rd Person-ising, you should also make up a 3rd person nickname for yourself just like TheBigMicka has done. 

      Then if people start referring to you by using your 3rd person nickname, you will know you’re 3rd person-ising a little too much.  When people call TheBigMicka TheBigMicka, that’s when TheBigMicka pulls it back a bit.

    • Simonious says:

      01:37pm | 13/04/10

      And dont forget “the maestro”

    • Ben81 says:

      01:42pm | 13/04/10

      Bob Dole doesn’t need this.

    • bec says:

      11:48am | 16/04/10

      Hmm… abortions for some, miniature American flags for others?

    • Julia says:

      02:37pm | 13/04/10

      Are they writing the headline for the subeditors? Or is this a manifestation of the Prime Minister’s tendency to ask himself questions?

    • Pedro says:

      03:06pm | 13/04/10

      Tracey, my favourite third person utterance was I believe the definitive quote of the Super League war - “Ricky Stuart has to work out what’s best for Rickey Stuart” (Ricky Stuart)

    • Brett L says:

      10:29pm | 13/04/10

      It’s all about separating the person from the behaviour. It’s about not taking responsibility for what you have done and the image you have portrayed. It’s a modern phenomenon of political correctness of which I’m sure the author of this blog relates well to.

    • EG says:

      11:27am | 14/04/10

      Tracey…..you left out the originator of ‘3rd personism’ !
      Julius Caesar - “Render unto Caesar….” - I spent many an agonising year
      (that’s right more than one!) reading (in the original Latin ) JC’s descriptions of his “pacification” (war) exploits & how he was determined to civilise all of the known world, even he had to kill them to do it (which he did with great fervor).
      In fact if we’re talking about referring to ourselves in the 3rd person, what about those of us (well, not me) who use the royal “We” - the question I’m interested in is “Does using 3rd person or royal plural denote some serious psychological problem or insecurity ?” - All I can say for myself is that EG isn’t really sure.
      EG

    • Ducks says:

      01:31pm | 17/06/10

      Facebook-it forces you to give updates in 3rd person.
      “Ducks is….”
      “Ducks thinks…”
      etc etc etc.

      It makes sense given the nature of the website involves updates from various friends, but I still fin it irritating.

 

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