A few days ago on this website, editor David Penberthy wrote to explain why, as he put it, “Australia Day is rubbish”. Well, not to come across all Sam Kekovich, but I reckon he’s full of it.

Australia Day: Kids love it

According to Penberthy, this annual celebration - which nicely bookends a silly season that begins with the running of the Melbourne Cup - is a shallow glorification of all that’s wrong with this country, “a half-witted contest to see how much meat you can eat and how much grog you can sink.”

As if there’s anything wrong with that.

The fact is that no free country spends its national day navel gazing. Instead, they hook on to some element of their individual creation story and use it as an excuse for a piss-up.

And as an American-born Australian who took citizenship three years ago, I’d like to say, hands off Australia Day.

In the weeks before the Fourth of July, you will not find Americans hunkered down over laptops, endlessly commenting on the websites of broadsheet newspapers, picking over the lowlights of their history from slavery to Vietnam.

Instead, the papers will be filled with tips on how to prepare the perfect potato salad (hint: think sour cream. And lots of dill.)

When the day finally comes it is spent much like an Australia Day, with friends, family, food and fireworks - and plenty of cold beer.

Likewise the French are happy to spend Bastille Day waving the tricolour while smoking unfiltered Gauloises and languidly speculating on their existential ennui. (OK, I made the last bit up because I have never enjoyed a Bastille Day in France.)

But it is a damn sure bet that however they celebrate, they don’t use the day to focus on the Jacobin terror into which their revolution quickly descended, or bemoan their forebears uniquely brutal colonial history around the world. Which is why there is nothing wrong with Australians enjoying Australia Day as they do.

Not because our past is perfect - it is not. But rather because it is imperfect, we need a break from the running battle between the shock troops of bogan jingoism with their southern cross tattoos on the one hand and the black-armband intellectuals who could give Jewish mothers a lesson or two in guilt on the other.

This is not to ignore the fact that people sometimes get out of hand on Australia Day. Last year 92 people in NSW were arrested; that leaves nearly seven million who were not.

Certainly a fair few more woke with sore heads the next morning.

But while the Nanny Roxons of the world might be able to cite increased health costs and hits to productivity, no study can put a dollar value on the relationships cemented, stories told, and memories formed on one of the few days on the calendar when we can all get together with no obligation other than to have fun.

And just as a few Croatian yobs in Melbourne do not prove that the entire sport of tennis is a hotbed violence and intolerance, neither should a few idiots turning the flag into a vehicle for abuse and intimidation blacken Australia’s reputation as one of the most tolerant and progressive societies in the world.

The fact is, we have the sort of robust civil society people in other parts of the world would - and all too often do - die for.

Which is the problem with calling Australia Day rubbish: it is a surrender. A surrender to those who confuse nationalism with patriotism, and a surrender to those on the other side for whom Australian history and culture is all dark underbelly.

We have 364 other days every year to work through these issues, and as a relatively young nation, it is no wonder that we are still finding a happy medium. This debate is crucial, and I look forward to a day when every day in Australia, not just Australia Day, is suffused by the quiet hum of understanding of what Bob Carr called “the brutality, the heroism, the tenderness, the patience, the humility as well as the pride” that has made our nation what it is today in all its imperfect greatness.

Until then, come 26 January, make mine a Cooper’s, thanks.

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    • Stuart says:

      07:30am | 22/01/10

      That was an interesting way to put it. there still needs to be debate on the topic but maybe not on the eve of our big day.

    • Graeme says:

      07:46am | 22/01/10

      Here here. Thank you James for bringing a bit of common sense to this webiste, instead of the usual guilt ridden trash we’ve become acustomed to.

      So yes please Australian’s, let us all rejoice, and celebrate the day for what it is. Be thankful we live here and enjoy the freedoms we do.

    • David says:

      08:13am | 22/01/10

      You had me at Coopers..

    • SteveC says:

      10:19am | 22/01/10

      Oh for God’s sake, lighten up. The ad is so obviously a spoof that of course the leftoids have missed the plot entirely.

      Then again you may like to ponder the question of who it actually was who built the Australian nation as it exists today.

    • AmOz says:

      02:54pm | 22/01/10

      @James:
      The only people I’ve seem wantonly throwing around the epithet “Un-Australian” have been those *hoping to be accused* of being :Un-Australian” or those accusing Australia Day advocates of wantonly throwing around the epithet “Un-Australian” ... which up to this point, they actually haven’t.

      Shouldn’t you all wait until someone actually throws that one at you before whinging about it?  Or is pre-emptive whinging “just in case” the order of the day here?

    • Jay Rodger says:

      09:31pm | 26/01/10

      NSW alone has residents that speak over 220 different languages. Having counted less than 20 people in that poster, that leaves at least 200 ethnic groups unaacounted for (assuming each person IN the poster speaks a different language). Sometimes you just have to be sensible and not look for the horrible innuendos that dont exist. Whoever drew this was not making a racist statement. The people jumping onto it with hatred in the eyes and hearts made this a racist statement. And THAT is just Un-Australian. And I dont want to identify with their kind of Australianism…

    • Aussie Gal 83 says:

      07:49am | 22/01/10

      Well done James, a ncie rebuttal, and certainly more truthful than the drivel from earlier in the week.

    • Liz says:

      07:58am | 22/01/10

      I dare say you took out citizenship for many reasons was one that you like our freedom of speech? We need Australia Day one day we’ll call it Republic Day maybe and we’ll all move on,not forgetting our history but leaving it in the past where it belongs.Those who were victimised will find empowerement and we’ll have a healthy society.

    • AmOz says:

      09:27am | 22/01/10

      I dare say you took out citizenship for many reasons was one that you like our freedom of speech?

      Just FYI, America has a much stronger guarantee of freedom of speech than Australia does.  Americans moving to Australia face coming to grips with Australia’s strange and draconian version of what Americans receive as a birthright.

    • AmOz says:

      09:37am | 22/01/10

      Also, to clarify, I’m not putting Australia down for that.  It’s just that of the many many reasons an American might want to become Australian (and there are many!), freedom of speech is a non-starter.

    • Bruce says:

      03:47pm | 22/01/10

      AmOz. 10.27 There is an interpretation that Australia’s constitution has an implied bill if rights and is suffiently covered and guaranteed by the parliamentary system. Yes, it has it critics, however, it works. There are those that would say Australians actually have more freedoms than US citizens. It would be interested to know what freedoms I do not have.

    • Andy says:

      08:00am | 22/01/10

      Nice piece James, make mine Cooper’s too

    • Phil says:

      09:45am | 23/01/10

      Yes, make mine a Coopers too - a ‘Dark Ale’.

      Very good piece James. Why is it that so many or the Arty Farty Glitterati have to indulge in self loathing? Of their own society, culture, and history. You make the powerful point that NO country is unblemished.

      We do better than most. Be that in democratic history, inclusiveness, economics, as evidenced in the HDI - human development index - or virtually any other area you care to rate countries on.

      Why can’t we celebrate ‘the lucky country’? A lot of people have worked very hard, and smart, over a couple of hundred years to make that ‘luck’.

      Let’s celebrate Australia Day and appreciate what we’ve got, and each other.

      (And BTW - WELCOME to those who chose Australia, rather than just have had the good fortune to be born here)

      We’ll be having a great Australia Day at Berrima - as we do most years.

    • jvbiddington says:

      08:08am | 22/01/10

      It’s interesting that you include in the second last paragraph “and a surrender to those on the other side for whom Australian history and culture is all dark underbelly. “

      Why because in the whole article you respond to events relating to yobbo behaviour and defending it because the US and France behave simarly - then finally make mention of the history in Australia.  So you think that those of us who find the treatment of indigenous people in Australia are the equivalent of the Yobbos or that the whole reality of history of white Australia has been marked by violence and systemic discrimination of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders and many other people of different cultural background. 
      I just hope that you find that these are issues that we might spend some of the 364 days on - and when we started making progress then even people like me might have a cause for celebration on Australia day.  I am proud to be Australian for the good that we are capable of and from time to time do but also am not in denial about reality.

    • Eric says:

      08:15am | 22/01/10

      The “dark underbelly” types are worse than the yobbos. The bogans might get drunk and disorderly once a year, but the black armbanders spend 365 days a year spreading their hatred of Australia and Australians.

      When you smear “the whole history of white Australia”, you are being racist.

    • Slatts says:

      10:38am | 22/01/10

      The best thing about Australia Day is you don’t have to put up with self-hating wankers while you’re burning the snags, watching the Oz Open and throwing down frothies. While you’re out in the sun, laughing and loving all those who are dear, they’re bunkered down in Misery Town ignored by all except The Age’s letters editor. (Wouldn’t be the Standard Gauge if it didn’t have a letter on Australia Day condemning those who favour good times over guilt.)

    • Poseidon says:

      08:10am | 22/01/10

      Maybe patriotism is just a bit dorky after all. I miss the days when the singing of the national anthem was drowned out by the screaming of a football crowd eager for the game to begin. Then the anthem was the national institution getting in the way of fun. My skin crawls when I see Seppo type displays of patriotic fervour hand on heart my country right or wrong bulldust it is unAustralian. Dont be guilty about displays of patriotism be embarrassed.

    • Sam says:

      08:10am | 22/01/10

      Here here James.
      Aussie Aussie Aussie… (will another poster finish it off?)

    • Ben says:

      09:11am | 22/01/10

      Anyone who chants Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi Oi needs kick in the butt. If there is one thing that makes us look and sound like brain dead idiots to the rest of the world (and at home) that’s it. You would probably class me as a bogan, but even I think that chant is cringe worthy. Surely we can come up with a better chant than that!! It can’t be hard…

    • Sam says:

      09:31am | 22/01/10

      @Ben, well you come with a new chant and I’ll chant it proudly on Australia Day. Until then, it’s Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi Oi from me, and I don’t see what’s brain dead about that.

    • sam's friend says:

      10:52am | 22/01/10

      oi oi oi…..........(happy now!)

    • Sam says:

      11:32am | 22/01/10

      @sam’s friend, yay! you complete me. :-| (is that too much)

    • Jason says:

      10:48am | 23/01/10

      @Ben

      I agree with you. It sounds like some throwback to the punk music scene from the 70’s where it was common to hear the mainly lower-class folk chanting oi!

      Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi! Oi! Oi! epitomises the uncouth underclass and is most cringe-worthy.

    • Leah says:

      10:24pm | 24/01/10

      If anyone says we should be ashamed of a sporting chant because it’s “bogan” or “brain dead”, they are morons. Sporting chants were never supposed to be eloquent or intelligent. (And I’m not even a huge sports fan… aside from State of Origin!)

    • Me says:

      08:13am | 22/01/10

      Lighten up Nigel.

      Your response is exactly what is wrong with society today

    • Me too says:

      09:34am | 22/01/10

      Nigel is indicative of the typical black-armbander who glowers his way through life specifically looking for things to take offence at, and then dining out on them for months afterward.  Perfectly happy to ignore 999 good and positive stories so long as they can find just one thing over which to tear their hair and rend their clothes in righteous indignation.

    • Chris says:

      08:26am | 22/01/10

      If only we spent any of the other 364 days working through these issues..

    • Margaret Gray says:

      08:26am | 22/01/10

      Well done James.

      It’s nice to think the elitist flagellation that scars so much of our national conversation daily could be checked for a full 24 hours.

      Sadly, I doubt it.

      Australians used to be globally regarded as laconic, easy going and abiove all good fun.

      All positive aspirational virtues.

      Lately, we have become so earnest and dull?

      Why is that?

    • Slim Dusty says:

      08:38am | 22/01/10

      I love to have a beer with James
      I love to have a beer with Jim.
      We drink in moderation
      And we never ever ever get rollin’ drunk
      We drink at the Town and Country
      Where the atmosphere is great
      I love to have a beer with James
      ‘Cause James’ me mate, yeah!!!

      Coopers for me to Jim…...any day of the year!!

    • J says:

      08:49am | 22/01/10

      Well said James!  A nice piece to combat the malarkey of the week.

      Here’s to potato salad too… my favourite! grin

    • Steve Smith says:

      08:49am | 22/01/10

      “This is not to ignore the fact that people sometimes get out of hand on Australia Day. Last year 92 people in NSW were arrested; that leaves nearly seven million who were not.”

      Where would people get the wrong idea from, if news and current affairs (and The Punch) constantly focuses on the likes of the 92 people.

    • ~Rumpleteazer~ says:

      08:52am | 22/01/10

      James, a really nicely written peice of journalism. Hope you don’t get fired for being so “pleasant”.
      Most journo’s incite such anger within the blogging community, thus some replies are so vitreolic.
      Nice is good for a change. 
      Now about that potato salad recipe….........?
      Our Australia Day will be with a dozen or so good friends around the pool.
      We will all be wearing our cozzies and a simple barbeque will be the order of the day with simple faire.
      We are having snags and fried onions in bread,  [Bunnings style]  mango trifle followed by Tim Tams and a cuppa, in between drinks, that is.
      There will be much laughter and hilarity. Just the way we allI like it!!
      ~Advance Australia Fair~

    • Simon says:

      08:59am | 22/01/10

      To all the nay sayers out there I have one question. Why must we spend our lives ridden with guilt about the sins of our forefathers? Sure some of it was awful, but wallowing in miseries past is not helpful.

      I’d prefer to be a tad more optimistic about things, sure we’ve made mistakes, but we learn from them and move on. What happened in the past can stay in the past.  Why must you feel the need to continually throw it in our faces.

      The way some people carry on about our history, its like we are the only nation that has made errors. However as James pointed out in his article, we are not alone. All nations of the world have made mistakes. What defines them is how they learn from it and move on. The key point being they move on. Trying to make people feel guilty about things that were out of their control is counter productive and is less likely to persuade people to see your point of view.

      I frankly refuse to made to feel guilty. I refuse to feel embarrassed about feeling pride to be part of this great nation.

      So celebrate people. Be thankful you live here and are apart of the ongoing story of this country.

    • Kirra says:

      12:16pm | 22/01/10

      Here here Simon, well said.  Wallowing in the past serves no purpose.  Don’t people know that the best revenge is to live a happy life, not wallow in the mistakes of the past?  That will only lead to stress and sickness as you let past wrongdoings rule your life.  Learn from the past and move on, it’s the only way our nation can move forwards.

    • James says:

      01:04pm | 22/01/10

      Good point guys, but in order to learn from the past in any meaningful sense, one must first study, recognise, and understand what it means.  Sure, we need to also emphasise the good along with the bad, but some of the posters here seem to think we should forget the bad, and only remember the good, in much the same way as the black armbanders think we should forget that good and emphasise the bad.  Neither approach works - all you get with those approaches is a populace entirely ignorant of its history, and one where so many celebrate “our victory at Gallipoli” or “Captain Cook landing at Sydney in 1788”, or lament the “genocide of Aborigines”.  To overcome this requires an approach that necessitates both the jingoistic types, and the black armbanders.  Anything less simply shortchanges Australia and Australians.  I guess my point is that it is not about guilt, it is about honesty.  While we must recognise the good, we must also recognise the bad parts, and be honest about it, rather than sweep it under the rug because sensitive types feel guilty.

    • James says:

      01:19pm | 22/01/10

      What do you mean by this Margaret?  Are you saying that it is better to forget the existence of Aborigines altogether?  Or that anyone who mentions that people lived on this continent before Arthur Philip landed (or Dirk Hartog searched for water) is missing the point?

      What is your point exactly?

    • DinkyDi says:

      09:04am | 22/01/10

      Just because you like Coopers it doesn’t make you Australian. My Vote is with Penbo - Australia Day has been hijacked by the bogans, neo-nazi’s, racists and wannabees.

    • Alex says:

      09:21am | 22/01/10

      Come on Aussies, be proud of this great nation.  Let’s get caught up in frenzy of national flag waving pride. You deserve it!!! I am so proud of Australians, getting whipped into a frenzy over Prince William’s Royal Visit.  I am so proud that the plight of indigenous Australians living in third world conditions is considered so important that it barely registers a hint of concern among the masses. I am so proud that in what is probably the world’s worst natural disaster in history, Australians are focusing on Prince William instead of the plight of the people in Haiti. Where is the huge outpouring and fundraising effort this time? Perhaps because it is a third world country it is not worthy of our attention. Let’s face it, why raise money for people that had nothing to begin with.  Yes, let’s be proud that we had the good fortune to be born in a country where people take everything for granted…where they can get on radio to complain about the trains being late or that their air conditioning is not working. It is sad to think that our Australian lives are valued higher than those less fortunate, purely based on wealth and geography!
      I suppose now I am going to be branded “Unaustralian” for this point of view.

    • AmOz says:

      09:45am | 22/01/10

      “I suppose now I am going to be branded “Unaustralian” for this point of view. “

      Nope. Just a self-loathing tool.

      Cheers.

    • Oscar says:

      09:54am | 22/01/10

      No your not “UnAustralian” for voicing your opinion Alex. Its part of the Democratic freedom your yourself are taking for granted.

      I would suggest however that if you feel so terrible about the plight of the Aboriginal Peoples, that you volunteer your time and visit these communities, help build shelters and provide food and better resources. Oh wait its not that easy. The circumstances of our indigenous people are far more complex than the “white man” keeping them down. And they are certainly not solved by parrots such as yourself squaking on your perch while doing nothing to solve it, other than winge and moan.

      You also point to our lack of charity towards the victims in Haiti. This is an unimaginable tragedy. However throwing money at it won’t work. If you actually followed the news you would see that there are armed looters who are taking the food and medical supplies provided for themselves. The best we can do is provide expert personel, who can work on the ground and provide the immediate help the people need. (And in case you hadn’t noticed, we are doing just that.) You might also want to know that the Australian government has donated $10 million to relief efforts.

      You have also conveniently forgotten how charitable Australians were to our third world friends during the Tsunami disaster of 04.

      But i guess its easy to overlook these things during a self righteous rant. You Peanut.

    • JT says:

      10:10am | 22/01/10

      Doesn’t at all make me think you are Un-Australian at all, you are entitled to your point of view.

      All those things you mention above are valid points, but I also think there is a vast and silent majority that has great concern for the plight of others, but all over the world those voices are never heard.

      I think it’s great you have such zeal and concern for others, like many Australians I donate to the red cross appeals and I do charity work on top of my paid job and I have met amazing people that do care, which on the flip side makes me very proud to be Australian!

    • Anne says:

      01:52pm | 22/01/10

      AmOz - every time I hear the expression “un-Australian” I am reminded of Inigo Montoyez’s line from The Princess Bride: “You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.” smile

    • AmOz says:

      02:47pm | 22/01/10

      @Anne:
      wink

    • Troppo says:

      09:39am | 22/01/10

      James’ Australian citizenship is what makes him Australian!

      The only thing worse than a racist or bogan is a hypocrite and you are one of them!

      James pay not attention to this hypocrite this country is yours, it belongs as much to you as it does anyone who was born here and I for one would love to have Coopers with you mate!

    • mg says:

      09:42am | 22/01/10

      Penbo said it better.

      The sooner we get rid of this weird Yank style patriotism the better. The sooner we take Australia Day for it really is the better - stow it away as just a holiday and nothing else.

      I love Australia, but I think the ills of blindfolding the nation and proclaiming what a great nation it is and the fact that the originees had their land stolen (and never recognised properly) make me kinda embarassed to be Aussie sometimes. These twats who drape the Aussie flag everywhere and say it is all about celebrating being Australian, should really be shipped to Texas where they would fit in better.

      Celebrate for sure, but let’s celebrate the fact that in the next few years, the sovereign people of this country will reset the balance - and Australia will become what it truly is - a nation of people who care for the country (the land), believe in sharing our histories and who will not need a figurehead to pretend to tell us what is going on (do YOU know what is really going on?).

    • SteveC says:

      10:26am | 22/01/10

      Good work, mg. You start by telling us how much you love Australia, and then explain in detail why it’s such a rotten placel (the obligatory refernce to Yank-style thrown in very early, as per the Leftoid manifesto. Find somewhere else to live, twerp!

    • mg says:

      01:38pm | 22/01/10

      Ouch - hit a nerve did I SteveC?
      Did I say it was rotten? No, I was referring to the MAJOR political and media issues ingrained in the country. The country itself is fine, it is the people that are “running” the country that are rotten. If that makes me unAustralian, then I am guilty as charged.

      It is quite obvious the rise of the use of the Australian flag is very similar to the use of the USA flag in the USA - you cannot deny that, look around, there are more flags in front yards, more flags on cars.

      I hardly follow any of this Left/Right business either - so paint me what ever colour you want.

    • Ads says:

      08:49pm | 24/01/10

      Well said mg, also a good rebuttal of steveC’s comment.
      Australia day has had a shadow cast over it in recent years by the rise of the racist yob (complete with bare chest and feet, bleach blonde hair, Australian flag draped over shoulders, and a mob mentality to boot) I’m always embarrassed by some members of my generation on Australia day.
      Now judging by some comments on here, I’m totally un-Australian for the mere fact that I have something critical to say about the way this holiday is ‘celebrated’ by some members of our society. On the contrary, I love this country, I’m immensely proud of it, but that doesn’t blind me to the fact that we might be heading in the wrong direction in regards to Australia day (and Anzac day) celebrations…

    • Your name:Mickey says:

      10:26am | 25/01/10

      Your comment:Steve, well said. However i would disagree on one point. He’s more of a tool than a twerp.
        And Ads, you’re not much better. A shadow has been cast over the day by a SMALL element. But the vast majority of Australians celebrate the day with their families. But if you think you’re cast as unAustralian for your views on Australia Day, start taking shots at Anzac day and see what happens

    • Trueblue. says:

      10:28am | 22/01/10

      No, it just appears that way because these idiots and bogans get the most face-time in our media. So basically you are judging the majority based on a very small minority, which I’m pretty sure I dont have to point out the irony there.

    • Chad C Mulligan says:

      01:09pm | 22/01/10

      Anybody tries to make me kiss a flag will end up eating it.

    • Eskimo says:

      01:31pm | 22/01/10

      If you think its been hijacked, then take it back. Go out and participate in an Australia Day activity you believe appropriate. Personally, my family are entered in an open water swim at the local surf cclub.

    • Cuppa says:

      01:35pm | 22/01/10

      trhankyou for a great article James.It was good to see some balance to David Penbarthy White Australia hating rant.Its great to see the Australian flag being shown with pride, & i love the fact that our youth are becoming so patriotic.They are constantly told they should be ashamed of their heritage & that they have to toe the line to please politically correct wowsers & minorities & its great to see that they are proud to live in this great country(its also a bonus when it upsets the PC inner city trendies like Penbarthy!)

    • Steeve says:

      02:28pm | 23/01/10

      what your missing is that those self same youths who wear our lag, that most powerful of symbols,.. are desecrating it by their drunken loutish behaviour with it wrapped around them.
      Respectful Patriotism means being proud to be Australian , while recognising it’s not perfect but probably the best place in the world to live. We have our problems, So does France Germany the US UK and Canada . I am equally ashamed of self hating white folks as well as redneck bogans tattoed with the southern cross and draped in the flag drunk as newts on the beach or BDO. One group needs to see things in perspective and accept the world is not always fair, and work, not bellow, to better it. The others need to grow a brain and maybe get themselves some respect and think about their actions and our symbols. my digger great uncles, one of whom was a POW would be turnign in their graves to see the vile racist hijacking of our national pride and symbols. Howard has a lot to answer for

    • Sam says:

      09:07am | 22/01/10

      Here’s an idea for an Australia Day cd I thought of the other day. Someone should make a cd with several versions of Advance Australia Fair. There would be the conventional national anthem version, but there would also be an Indian music style version, an Irish, an Arabic, an Italian, a Greek, a Chinese, a Japanese, a Thai, a Korean… well you get the drift. A different version of the same song using the musical styles of that country. You could even have an American style rap version with a couple of references to motherf@#$%@#, and a Kiwi version where every sentence ends in “bro” or “eh?”. All in jest with a huge disclaimer against being taken too seriously. There could even be a Harry Conick Jnr style version. “Y’all bufoons let’s rejoice”. And the Indian version would say “Advance Australia Fair with a your masters degree from a bankrupt private educational institution or your very own taxi”.

      Have a laugh, it’s healthy, and there’s a funny side to all stereotypes.

      Wassup Aussie bro

    • Tim the Toolman says:

      12:09pm | 23/01/10

      Very cool idea smile  I eagerly await the Kiwi one wink

    • What's fair says:

      09:28am | 22/01/10

      Good Morning Punchers

      I have to say I have been pleasantly surprised by this and Alan’s article (concerning Obama & the recent senate vote upset).  Balance appears to have been restored on The Punch and has somewhat restored my faith in it.

      There is nothing wrong with having debate over the important issues that have been published, although hearing from only one side is not only boring but dangerous.

      Well done.

    • Larry says:

      09:34am | 22/01/10

      Ben,
      Seppos kick people in the BUTT; Aussies kick them in the ARSE.

    • Ben says:

      10:12am | 22/01/10

      I was attempting civility whilst still voicing my disapproval. You are correct though. ARSE it is.

    • Andrew says:

      09:39am | 22/01/10

      I take issue with some of the comments and negative attitudes towards our nation and our history. The story of Australia is a success story, of rags to riches. Where settlers from across the seas came and settled this harsh and largely uninhabited land and built a prosperous, rich, lawful and peaceful country. What’s not to celebrate?

    • James says:

      01:08pm | 22/01/10

      That is only half the story, and if you really were serious about celebrating this nation, you would advocate a warts and all approach to its history.  There are two types of history - the type that advocates something (whether left or right wing); and the type that is honest, and examines both the good and the bad.

    • Education Revolution says:

      09:43am | 22/01/10

      “neo-nazi’s”?

      I thought only bogans, racists and wannabees abused apostrophes like that!

      lol. j/k wink

    • Trolldoll says:

      02:36pm | 22/01/10

      You forgot Greengrocers

    • Pixie says:

      09:43am | 22/01/10

      People should feel lucky and proud to be an Australian…imagine if we were all Muslims and chained to a religion that would not allow you to celebrate your national day but only their god!  We have the freedom to celebrate any way we feel and eating, drinking and spending time together is one of them.

    • stephen says:

      10:31pm | 22/01/10

      Pixie, you’re my Dixie.

    • Dan says:

      11:08am | 23/01/10

      Right, as opposed to being chained to Christianity or something. You fool. You do realise that there are plenty of proud Australians who are Muslims and one can celebrate without drinking?! It’s peoole like you who makes me ashamed to be Australian!

    • bite me says:

      01:09pm | 23/01/10

      Oh Pixie, where do I start…
      To stereotype Islam so displays you are lacking in either religious education or prefer to just a plain ignorant fool.
      1.  Unfortunately governments and cultures use religion to justify behaviour.  There are many moderate Islamic countries where you are not “chained to their God” - actually there God (Allah) is the same as our God the difference they recognise JC as being only a prophet not the messiah but I am digressing - many religions have been used to justify behaviours, even Christianity ie the Bible has been used in the deep south of US to justify slavery, Catholicism vs Protestantism has been used as basis for so much violence over the centuries it is not funny and so on…
      2. A number of Islamic countries also celebrate national days - so again religion has no basis to be brought into this commentary.
      3.  In fact Islamic Australians also celebrate Australia Day and have the freedom to so - which goes to back to the fact that it is the governmental law or dominant culture in a culture which, to the greatest extent, determine behaviours allowed within society.  Not religion.
      4.  I guess you have no knowledge of those that are within the Exclusive Brethren or have conveniently forgotten about them (I’m guessing so you won’t muddy your diatribe on Islam) - who are forbidden from doing much of the celebrations that will take place on Australia Day.  No, they are not Muslims, they Christians.
      I will not go any further with example.  Pixie you really do need to go out and travel the world and see how many countries truly live.  You have just laid bare your understanding of religion and culture (not to mention history) and have been found wanting.

    • martin says:

      10:04am | 22/01/10

      i re-read you article twice.  sorry but i don’t see one bit of patriotism anywhere in your writing.  i’m an australian and i’m more proud of this country and my heritage than you will ever be.  Patriotism is about a unified belief in your country and your fellow men and women and what it means to be australian.  This is something that australia does NOT have.  by comparison…have you ever been in America on the 4th of july?  it’s amazing the spirit that a nation can share with each other (a nation more torn apart than ours might i add).  You sir, confuse patriotism with the time honoured australian tradition of getting drunk.  they are two very separate things

    • BULMKT says:

      10:20am | 22/01/10

      Chill out Ben.
      Go and have a lie down buddy

    • BULMKT says:

      10:23am | 22/01/10

      When I read David Penberthy’s piece, I thought he must have suffered a head knock. I assumed he wrote it because he was keen to gee-up the punchers (which he successfully did). So here’s hoping that’s what his objective was, because if he was fair dinkum, maybe that head knock actually did happen.

      I welcome your piece, James, but it’s a pity that an “American-Australian” appreciates our national day more than a “born and bred” Australian.
      I salute you James on your sensible rebuttal and I suggest David gives himself an upper cut.

      Make mine a Heineken thanks (can’t drink that piss XXXX)

      oh yeah - who’s going to have Monday off?

    • Saskia says:

      10:29am | 22/01/10

      Everyone is the master of their own destiny.  I don’t feel bad about anything I have done or Australia has done.  I don’t feel ‘sorry’ for people - that is pathetic.  It’s up to whingers like the Aboriginal Industry etc to get get up off their welfare created diabetic arses and start working harder and looking after themselves.  99% of their problems are self-inflicted.  Nobody forces them not to work, to become alcoholic, to bash their families and rape their kids.  No one is owed a living by anyone else.  People are free to live as they see fit.

      I will have a huge party on Australia Day celebrating this great land and all the miserable hate brigade can please themselves.  Most Australian’s couldn’t give a flying about you.

    • BULMKT says:

      10:53am | 22/01/10

      RE Saskia
      I’m with you.

    • Sam says:

      10:59am | 22/01/10

      “It’s up to whingers like the Aboriginal Industry etc to get get up off their welfare created diabetic arses and start working harder and looking after themselves”

      Hillarious… (apart from overlooking the attempted genocide) I agree with you.

    • Ken says:

      10:33am | 22/01/10

      Sorry. Australia was founded before 26 January. People seem to forget that.
      1 January is a better day for Australian celebrations.

    • Margaret Gray says:

      10:50am | 22/01/10

      Better tighten that black arm band and grab an extra switch of birch, Ken.

      Anyway Dirk Hartog landed before Cook, but that’s not what you meant though is it.

    • Kika says:

      10:39am | 22/01/10

      No, sorry. I won’t be celebrating with you. Keep the Coopers to yourself.
      I was born and bred here. I feel sick, physically sick everytime I see those brain dead fools don the flag as a cape, wear as much awful green and gold paraphernalia they can get their hands on and carry on like absolute fools – that’s nationalism?
      To me Australia Day is nothing more than Captain Cook day. The Australia Day we think we’re celebrating is actually a fabricated and completely faux national day which was made up purely by the Australia Day council. Prior to that, it was a day off work and a day to think “yeah the first fleet arrived in Botany Bay today.. or something”
      We have no idea what we’re celebrating! Don’t give me that rubbish that we’re celebrating what’s good in this country. Recent events shows us that we’re nothing of what we thought we were. The racist attacks against Indians in Melbourne, the failure of our so called ‘first world’ nation to allow our fellow citizens to live in third world conditions, the list goes on. If we’re celebrating the fact our great country with such a great migrant history has developed into such a leading nation in the world, a country to be proud of, how can we accept these things? Perhaps we’re not as ‘accepting’ and fantastic as we think we are! And yes let’s face it – we’re all migrants!! So what are we truly celebrating?
      So then you get your kids draped in their Cronulla capes proudly brandishing slogans all over themselves such as ‘Go Home! We’re full”. Don’t tell me these are just a few of many. They are a symptom of something more sinister happening. Those kids are just stupid enough to make their true feelings known. There are MANY others who think the same way. The conversations around the water cooler often show people’s true beliefs. I’ve heard many conversations regarding whether Muslims should be allowed to migrate here, bringing their culture and religions. So much for a tolerant peaceful society.

      But if we’re not celebrating this on Australia Day, and it is all about how great ‘Australia’ is, why not celebrate it on Jan 1 – this is the day we actually became ‘Australia’ back in 1901. Not January 26! You said that this day is a great day to transition to a new year. Wow. That’s a great reason. So we should all celebrate things without actually thinking what it means?

      The issue is that we don’t really HAVE a national day. We only have a mock national day on January 26 because this is the day it’s always been – the day concocted back in the early days of the NSW colony to toast Mother England, the King and Queen and the successes of the colony. This is FACT. They weren’t celebrating how wonderful the country is. They were toasting MOTHER ENGLAND.  The only time we will actually truly have a national day is when we become a republic. Then we can all participate in our national day, and participate in the celebrations – because it means something to all of us. Anglo Saxons, Europeans, Indigenous Australians, Migrants from everywhere -  Not just SOME.

    • Johnny says:

      11:41am | 22/01/10

      This is not an either/or question. I can celebrate my country and it’s countrymen while reflecting on what Australia needs to continue doing to grow as a nation.

      I like a beer as much as the next man… but I don’t switch off the brain when the ring is pulled on Jan 26th.

      I don’t wallow in self pity, but I don’t also go around saying how we’re totally awesome and our history is clean and without reproach.

      Australia Day is not only about celebrating where we have come from, it’s about where we are heading.

      You put the blinkers on the horses in the Melbourne Cup, not the citizens of this land.

    • Bread Thief says:

      11:43am | 22/01/10

      I’ll have your Coopers!!

      Here’s to Mother England for Cricket, Rugby, The Local Pub, The Pint and for punishing my GGG grandfather for stealing a loaf of bread!!!

      “Cheers and Up your bum”

    • Dave says:

      12:13pm | 22/01/10

      Whilst I am with you on many of your points such as the tastelessness of the fanatic-style bigot/celebrant, and the history of the holiday origin, I disagree with examples such as attacks on Indian students lead to the conclusion that we are all racist.

      Taking whatever story from the media, regarding an action performed by minorities, individuals, or criminals, and using that story as indicative of the attitude of the majority is simply wrong.  Criminals, drunks, or idiots do not represent or act for the majority.

      Whatever tiny percentage it is of the population who do something crass, embarrassing or illegal, yet get their story plastered across the paper or the news, there is a massive majority who do not think or act in a similar, or supporting way.  In this country, it is the attitude of the hard-working, tolerant, fair and decent majority we celebrate, along with the hope that we can keep doing better.

      In every society, there will always be criminals or proponents of ‘negative’ attitudes to life.  Please don’t assume that the disproportionate coverage these people get in the name of ‘News’ is representative of the state of the country.

      As for me, I’m celebrating the fact that in this country, if I try to do the right thing, work hard, and be good to people and the environment in the best way I can, I’m likely to reap the rewards of that behaviour throughout my life.  It’s worth celebrating that there are many things that happen in other countries that will not happen to me here.  I’m not celebrating that we’re ‘better than them’, but I’m happy for the life I can have here.

      As an aside, I’d like to know which countries, if ANY, have such a pristine, faultless history that they alone ‘deserve’ to celebrate with a national day.

    • Mark says:

      02:17pm | 22/01/10

      Great article, sir; well written and to the point! I agree one hundred percent.  grin

    • Erin says:

      04:31pm | 22/01/10

      I’m sorry but the fact that settlement or federation didn’t happen “on” january 26th isn’t the point.  Jesus wasn’t born on 25th Dec, or die on the whatever of April (or is it March it keeps changing, which goes to show how important that “date” is). The Queen wasn’t born in June.  In fact the only public holiday I can think of that actually happens when it historically occured is May Day.
      The point is that we have a symbolic day to recognise that our country is special and has many things to be proud of.
      Every other day feel free to whinge about inflation, corrupt police/polliticians, migrants, the poor Aboriginals, whatever you like.  I may even join you in discussing the issues and possible solutions (unless you’re only interested in whineing).

      But leave the one day a year that I can stand up and say “Australia is great” alone.

    • We know what happened! says:

      11:16pm | 22/01/10

      So if we change the date to Jan 1, what will you say then? Because all of the issues you raise will still be there. Are you saying we can celebrate if the date is 1st Jan?

      The date is irrelevant. Issues will always be there as you say and we will ALWAYS have regrets as a nation (as many do). This day is the one day we can all (human beings) come together and be one in peace. Just for one flipping day, lets not argue, fuss or fight about who’s wrong or right.

      Cheers.

    • James says:

      03:33am | 23/01/10

      Hi Kika. I totally agree with everything you’ve said. I know it is ‘uncool’ to be ‘politically correct’ these days, but I find myself more and more embarrassed by what is going on in my beloved country. Racism seems to grow worse every day and by and large it is tolerated.

      My partner is from South America and about to move to Australia and I really am fearful of what she will be subjected to. It is almost certain that she’ll be subjected to racial abuse, which was never a problem for us when we lived in the UK. A sweet and kind person who works extremely hard and yet is certain to be insulted and told to ‘go home’ by thugs whose own ancestors only arrived here a few generations ago.

      People can insult me, call me unAustralian and say that I’m a self-loathing lefty. Say whatever you like. I still love my country, I’m just ashamed of what goes on sometimes. Can’t we leave racism in the rubbish bin where it belongs? Surely in the 21st century we can finally move on from the childish ridiculousness of racial prejudice? I’m afraid that Australia is becoming known around the world a a place where racism is alive and well. It is very sad indeed.

    • Louise says:

      08:35am | 23/01/10

      Just go and have a Bex and a lie down.

      Seriously though, I can’t imagine what it must be like to live like you do Kika, with such loathing for your fellow Australians and such snobbery against their way of having a good time.

    • David says:

      08:55am | 23/01/10

      I’ve read a lot of interesting posts on here that I wanted to respond to but this was one that really grabbed me.

      You shouldn’t become physically ill.  Sure, you should be upset, but if you don’t like how our national symbols are being used, then appropriate them yourself!  If you’re worried about the connotations associated with them, as long as you’re doing something positive, you’ll be fine.  Towards the end of your piece, you give a perfect example of how this can happen.  How many of us actually toast to Mother England on January 26?  I can guarantee you I don’t and neither do my friends or family.  Modern-day Australians have taken the day and given it their own meaning.  Sure, it may not be the same meaning that all Australians have for it, but it sure ain’t toasting Mother England.

      You’re right - we shouldn’t accept racism, but why does that have to stop us from celebrating what’s good?  We’d be idiots to deny that racism doesn’t happen, but there are a lot of people from a lot of different cultures and backgrounds that benefit from what’s good in the country.  And that should be celebrated.

      Cronulla - that’s an interesting one.  You should spend some time down there.  Something sinister was happening, and it’s atrocious that it escalated to that point, but imagine what it would be like if you truly thought that you, your family and friends didn’t feel safe in your neighbourhood.  It was a severe over-reaction, but for people who aren’t as eloquent as other contributors to this board, it was the only way to make themselves heard.  Albeit, the message that came across was the wrong one.

      We already have a national day.  It’s January 26.  We all participate in our national day.  Some do it in a positive way.  Some do it in a negative way.  Some do it in a way that is positive for them, but is seen as negative to a lot of other people.  Like writing a piece critical of Australia Day.  But you know what?  That’s great!  We can’t celebrate the good without acknowledging the bad.  But please, please, on January 26, do something good for yourself and do something good for Australia - find something that makes you happy that you were born and bred here - just one thing - and celebrate that.

      Have a great Australia Day.

      PS: January 26 was Captain Arthur, not Captain Cook, but it potentially has the same meaning.

    • aussie and proud says:

      10:43am | 22/01/10

      i read the article, right on. my parents arrived here many years ago with only the clothes on their back and looking for just once chance at a better life. they will tell you, this is the land of opportunity, freedom and peace. I am aussie and love the fact. anyone who rubbishes australia day - GET OUT.

    • chris says:

      10:49am | 22/01/10

      I’ve read many comments on here bemoaning the fact that some of us may feel gulity towards our history. Well I don’t feel guilty about it. Not because I’m without compassion but because I was born in 1986 and can hardly be held accountable for events occuring prior to that time. I do however feel many emotions about the current state of play. What I feel guilty and embarassed about is not the stolen generation but our treatment of modern indigenous Australian’s and the fact that people on the coast couldn’t care less. I feel embarassed that young Australians are getting hammered beyond control every weekend and destroying the lives of others (if not their own). I’m outraged that my contempories are so carefree and mind numbingly stupid that they continually drive their cars at twice the speed limit and kill their mates all in the name of a good time. I’m embarassed that 200,000 died in an earthquake last week but the birth of an elephant at Melbourne zoo seemed to receive more coverage (and more public outrage in the case of the shooting of a koala). And hell why should we care about the environment, we’re from the greatest country on earth and it is our birthright to own a 4wd and run four plasma TV’s. And god help you if you try and restrict liquor licensing and close our pub early, What’s that? It’s for our own safety? That violates our rights as Australians! Furthermore, we would rather deny racist attacks and point the finger back at India’s own domestic violence history then accept we may have a problem (at least a violence problem if not a racism one). I for one, could not care less about India’s problems but I care about our own.

      Laconic has become irresponsible, easy-going has become lazy, a fair go has become expecting everything handed to you on a plate and the friendly mild-mannered Australian has become a pissed loud-mouthed bogan with a southern cross tattoo on his back. And that’s embarassing!

    • zoe says:

      12:39pm | 22/01/10

      Um I’m a bit confused, you claim: 
      “I’m embarassed that 200,000 died in an earthquake last week but the birth of an elephant at Melbourne zoo seemed to receive more coverage”

      and then you later said “I for one, could not care less about India’s problems but I care about our own:”  So which is it? You only care about the rest of the world when it’s a natural disaster?  You know what bad things happen everywhere, even here and I think most of us try and do the best we can, and while there is a moron element here, that should not reflect on the majority.  Now if you really want to do some good, go volunteer somewhere on Australia Day.

    • Sally says:

      10:52am | 22/01/10

      James, I like your style.

    • murray says:

      10:57am | 22/01/10

      I think you missed Penbo’s point, James.

    • cybacaT says:

      11:12am | 22/01/10

      What a brilliant piece of writing - I couldn’t agree more.  If certain groups choose their lives as victims, it doesn’t mean the rest of us need to assume the role of villains.  How about a bit of positivity, happiness, togetherness and pride for a change?

    • papachango says:

      11:28am | 22/01/10

      I’m going to shamelessly quote another blogger here. This comes from someone called stevo on April 23, 2009 6:58 PM, on the Age’s forum on a similar topic. It was about Anzac day, but it applies equally to Australia Day.

      for god sake it is one day…leave them alone. Lets make one day for left wing sooks…I know May day. You can all run around smash everything, call it invasion day, burn a few churches, make everyone watch gays kissing, everyone has to catch public transport, turn off the lights, all women must cover up, university classes are free, no 4wd’s within 20kms of the cbd, all roads are now bike lanes, no-one can eat meat, Catherine Deveny is the prime minister of hate, all borders are open to anyone and last but not least…if you live more than 30km’s out of the city you are a bogan or redneck and have no say in anything. Come on ...make it happen…just get off your ass and make it happen. You carnt? Well alot of people like anzac day and make it happen every year. So shut your mouth, sleep in and think in your mind it is May day.

      I seriously think this is the last word on the topic :D

    • Anthony scott says:

      11:35am | 22/01/10

      I was born in Australia in a city called Sydney. I go to work 48 weeeks of the year so I deserve aa day off. I will vote against anyone who cancels the public holiday on Australia day.

    • W says:

      11:41am | 22/01/10

      being born in Australia to an asian mother . . . . maybe the writer should see what its like to try and enjoy Australia Day where he gets abused and told to “go back to his own country” . . .  my dad’s side of the family goes back to the first fleet . . so i think i have rather strong roots in this country. Yet Australia Day has been taken over by racist bogans with their southern cross tattoos yelling and shoving me, because of my skin colour.
      I put up with this rubbish every year, as i am a patriot, and i believe in celebrating it. I just have to get used to putting up with this every year.

      Would the writer like to put up with this every year? I wouldnt think so.

    • J says:

      12:12pm | 22/01/10

      @W

      I wouldn’t put up with it year after year.  To me, it seems like you’re making your life uneccesarily hard. 

      Racism is deplorable.  It doesn’t matter how you celebrate Australia Day.  Good on you for getting out there.  But is subjecting yourself to abuse year on year really going to solve anything?

    • An Officer & a Gentleman says:

      12:16pm | 22/01/10

      W believe me when I say if I ever see of hear anything like what you describe I will step in and teach the little bastard a lesson in manners they will never forget!

      Part of me thinks that all men after leaving school need to be thrown into a year of the Military Reserves….teach them how a real Australian man conducts himself!

    • Sam says:

      12:19pm | 22/01/10

      @W, mate you need to move to Melbourne, Sydney is crap. You’d feel much more welcome here.

      Sydney, you stink.

    • BULMKT says:

      11:42am | 22/01/10

      RE Kika,

      I think you have had a head knock too!

      I’m tired of reading about you “Australian haters.”

      You have been granted an incredible gift – being born here and yet you spit in its face. Shame on you.

    • isis says:

      11:44am | 22/01/10

      Everything Penbo writes needs a rebuttal like this.

    • D2010 says:

      12:00pm | 22/01/10

      I sorry that W is abused by idiots on Australia day but I am equally pleased that he still stands up and celebrates it. Good on him. The only way to beat the moron element in our society is to stand up and be counted. Australia day is my day to spend with family and friends, enjoy the sun and few laughs. Yes we will have a BBQ and yes there will be alcoholic beverages. No we won’t be wearing the Australian flag, That belongs on a flagpole.

    • AT says:

      12:12pm | 22/01/10

      Oi Jimbo,

      You compare US independence day and France’s Bastille day to Australia day. You imply we should follow their example by “hook[ing] on to some element of [our] individual creation story and use it as an excuse for a piss-up”. Fair enough, but both those foreign days commemorate the triumph of freedom and independence over oppression. Australia day honours 18th century England’s exportation and installation of a brutal and oppressive penal regime in Australia.

      Concurrently you also present the contradictory notion that the ‘other 364 days of the year’ should be used to contemplate the meaning of our history and Australia day be set aside solely for purposes of ‘pissing-up’.

      Make up your mind, but it looks as though many of our more belligerently drunken compatriots already appreciate the historical and cultural significance of the day when they order inferior citizens to declare allegiance to our country or run the risk of being punished. Sadly, the rest of us who do seize the opportunity for just another piss-up, probably don’t spend the other 364 days contemplating the meaning of being Australian or anything else terribly significant.

      I do agree with your dismissal of Penberthy’s headline, though; Australia Day is NOT rubbish, it’s mediocre rubbish.

    • H of SA says:

      12:12pm | 22/01/10

      Am I the only one who suspects many have missed the point of Penbo’s article?

      He wasn’t saying Australia is rubbish- he was saying Australia Day is rubbish.

      Thats the key difference, Australia is a better nation than most, Australia day however tends to be associated with the worst aspects of our nation.

      I mentioned earlier in his piece that there are many things that are good about this nation. Perhaps top of my personal list is the high amount of volunteers, others involve the fact I can criticise my government without being tortured.

      However Australia day is marked not by celebration of these better aspects of our society. Rather, it is marked by hedonism and loutishiness - which by its very nature of behaving loutishly is highly visible and loud - attention seeking behavior. (People pointing out the low arrest rates have a point that the majority behaves ok, but we also know there are plenty of people who behave in a way that is not criminal, but definatley disrespectful to their fellow humans and don’t get arrested)

      I think pembo’s point was that Autralia day - and even the federal governments advertising - has tended to emphasis the loutish.

      He wasn’t saying Australia is rubbish, I think he was sayign the nation is a fine enough place that its national day deserves better treatment.

    • James says:

      01:33pm | 22/01/10

      For most of the people making comments here, that is a distinction that is lost H.  Nuance and the finer points of arguments do not get absorbed when a person reads the header, and perhaps the first sentence, and decides to weigh in.  “Straya day is rubbish?  Thats bloody un-a-strayan.”

    • jack says:

      12:17pm | 22/01/10

      James, you must forgive our black armband lot, it is just their way of demonstrating their own moral superiority over the rest of us. When they say Aus is racist, dark underbelly etc, they mean that the rest of us knuckle-draggers are like that, but not them. Sad really.

      As to the potato salad, use sweet potatoes, steamed in chunks, mixed with small batons of spicy salami, and dressed generously with an egg mayo.

      let’s face it, if you are lucky enough to be born or become an Aussie, you’ve been hit in the arse with a rainbow.

      Worth celebrating.

    • papachango says:

      12:50pm | 22/01/10

      I completely and utterly disagree.

      Mayo of any type should go nowhere near a potato salad. Try seeded mustard, good quality extra virgin olive oil and cider vinegar instead. With boiled kipfler potatoes, flat-leaf parsley, fried shallots and capers.

      Onther than that yes, despite what the black armbanders say, generally I think we’re pretty lucky to live here. The black armbanders don’t seem in a hurry to leave either.

      Carry on.

    • Rebecca says:

      12:24pm | 22/01/10

      James, loved the article.  An Aussie for real (though I don’t drink beer, so I’ll pass on the Coopers!).
      Calls for the date of Australia Day to be moved to January 1 - Federation Day (Not to be confused with New Years!) or Anzac Day are a bit silly, I would think.  For starters, Federation Day WOULDN’T be inclusive - because not all states signed up on Jan 1. 
      Anzac Day would be even worse - That is a day where I, and many others, gather to remember those who fought and died for their country - and I’ll add Remembrance Day to the inappropriate list also.
      Now, to you vitrolic people who claim that flying an Aussie flag, wearing any Australia Day paraphernalia, or any other show of national pride - you should all get a bloody life.  As a 27yo female, ex-sailor, patriot - I proudly wave the Australian flag at any opportunity that exists - because I love my country, and I love the flag.
      Now, those that argue against having the Union flag as a portion of Australias’ - I have no issue with modifying our flag, if it came with a good design, that was discussed and the Australian people had a chance to choose - however to do that, you do it the right way - and you certainly don’t just berate people for flying it on the basis that its from ‘Mother England’.
      To those who claim our Australians (of Aboriginal descent) don’t have anything to celebrate on Australia Day - I can certainly sympathise on one hand - but that is balanced out by several points:  Without intending to be rude, in those days having white settlers on this continent was better than some of the alternatives; historical data shows that the aboriginal people may not have actually originated from these locations, but themselves migrated from areas further north (and in doing so, they may have merged, or even wiped out any other ‘natives’ - not saying they did, but it is possible); nowadays the aboriginal people have a lot of programs, funding, and extra incentives to help them develop than many others…  I could continue, but I’ll leave it at that, since I’m going to be considered racist anyway…  I do concede that many horrible things happened in the past to the Aboriginal Australians - and for that I am genuinely sorry.  Whilst I was not around, and did not (and have not ever) participated, or condoned actions like what has happened to those people in that time - I am sorry that it happened at all.  However, I also would like to say that until we can put the past where it belongs, and move on, learn from those mistakes, we’ll never manage to get past these issues. 
      I myself try to be a good person - and I do my level best to avoid judging on the basis of a few ‘bad eggs’ - I’ve met some wonderful Australian friends of varying decent - Aboriginal, Indian, Kiwi, Pom, USA, Middle Eastern, East European.. To me, they are Aussies - they chose to come here, they all have their own culture, but they add, rather than take from our own.  I’ve met several of the opposite end as well - many that were born here, and quite a few from elsewhere - so it doesn’t matter where you come from - there are always going to be those stupid idiots doing things that give a bad name to their entire culture.
      I can handle constructive criticism of myself, or my country - but if you’re going to just bag it out, then I will say go live elsewhere - if you’re not prepared to put some effort into making something better - however you choose to contribute - then you’re part of the problem.  If you come here to make a fresh start for yourself / family - then do so, join the Aussie community, bring the best of your culture with you, and leave the rest behind - grow, and help Australia grow (in the sense of ‘grow up’!).  If you come here to get away from conflict - don’t bring it here with you.  If you want to become an Australian - then welcome (barbie at my place, BYO drinks!).  If you insist you’re from elsewhere first and foremost - maybe you need to look at whether you really want to be an Aussie.
      We are a FREE country (at the moment, at least) - I’d rather it stay that way - free to choose religion(or not)/friends/education/work - but all too often people forget that with freedom comes responsibilities - you can’t force these things onto anyone else either - and you should be responsible for your actions (act within the law, or go through the right methods to have the law changed!)
      Well.  My rant for this year, I think.

    • papachango says:

      12:55pm | 22/01/10

      for a ‘rant’ it was pretty measured and reasonable - and I mostly agree with all the points raised.

    • JLo says:

      01:41pm | 22/01/10

      I was born here.  This is not about ethnicity, it’s about the denegration of standards, morals and basic courtesies.

      Do what I do ... go to a different beach ... we all have choices.

    • xiaoecho says:

      08:42pm | 22/01/10

      you do not come across as racist one iota

    • Kez says:

      11:27pm | 22/01/10

      I wouldn’t so much call this a rant as I would a very reasonable and logical statement. Well Done Rebecca!!!

    • Peter says:

      12:33pm | 22/01/10

      Agreed.  Why all the self-hate?  We’re very lucky to live here and there’s much to celebrate.  Whingers can lock themselves inside and turn off the TV.

    • Jonno says:

      03:27pm | 22/01/10

      If people actually did turn off the TV (by TV I mean all media) and had a look around they would realise this country all in all is a great place to live.

    • Kate says:

      10:52pm | 22/01/10

      @Jonno - good point, but I think the whingers would also be better off visiting some other countries to get an idea of how lucky Australians are. Like the USA, to see what happens when health care is unaffordable for many. Or Cambodia, to experience a country where 1/3 of the population was wiped out by genocide and poverty is widespread. There’s no better way to learn to appreciate your country than travel. I’ve just spent a month in the US and while I had a great time, I really missed the laid back Aussie attitude.

    • lachy says:

      12:44pm | 22/01/10

      can agree with the concept of a national day, but I question Australia day being the 26th, the anniversary of taking over from the indiginous aussies…if it could be the anniversary of a different incident, perhaps the most decisive day of kokoda or gallipoli, or federation or something would be easier not to have an empty feeling about.

    • Adam says:

      03:29pm | 22/01/10

      I would doubt very much that settlement of Sydney was the day Australia was taken from the aborigines.

      And I am always offended with the term indiginous describing aborigines. Despite the fact that they too migrated to this land (albeit a long time ago), anyone born here is indiginous to this country which includes me and probably you as well.

    • Nathan says:

      01:10pm | 22/01/10

      DinkyDi, no more than it has been hijacked by radically left-wing, politically correct do-gooders and neo-communists who insist on forcing their ‘moralist’ views on the rest of us. I am certainly not what you would define as a ‘bogan’ or extreme right-wing, but I would personally rather live in a country that allows free-speech and free thought rather than a radical leftist country that will try to stifle free speech and control what I can and can’t think.

    • James says:

      01:09pm | 22/01/10

      Where do you get that idea from?  In Iran, they have a national day celebrating the revolution.  They have a lunar new year celebration unrelated to Islam.  At least get some basic information before making such silly comparisons.

    • Crankee Yankee says:

      01:10pm | 22/01/10

      And as an American-born Australian who will take his citizenship test THIS year, I don’t want to see Australia become the USA. Since when do Aussies WANT to be Yanks? This is the same defence I keep hearing. “Well the US does it!” ! So let’s stop voting, buy guns and flush our economy down the toilet! Let’s blindly follow anything with the Southern Cross and UNION JACK on it! NO! Let’s learn from the mistakes made by our friends in other countries. Let’s not say “they’re doing it, why can’t we!” but “Let’s do better for ourselves!”. What’s wrong with seeing how much meat you can eat and grog you can drink? I’ll tell you. An obesity level that passed those “fat yanks” years ago and alcohol fuelled violence that makes going out for a drink more dangerous than posing on a croc cage. That’s what’s wrong with it! If you love the US so much, maybe you should have stayed? I left because I could no longer be proud of being an American. Why did you? I’m a proud Aussie-American who will spend Australia Day thinking about how great it is to live here, not by disgracing this land that I love.

    • H of SA says:

      01:17pm | 22/01/10

      Welcome Crankee Yankee, you say it very well. How is hedonistic consumption of food and beverage patriotic?

    • Anne says:

      01:19pm | 22/01/10

      Well said, Simon. Yes, some terrible things happened in our history and I’m sure most of us would have preferred things to have been done differently. BUT - I refuse to be made to feel guilty about them, despite the best efforts of certain minority groups and revisionists. I did not do those things. I cannot change them, no matter how much I would like to. Why should I or anyone else be made to feel responsible for them? Rather than focusing on what happened two hundred years ago, wouldn’t we be better focusing our energy on the present and on how to make a better society for all of us, regardless of race, colour and creed,  and for our children? And revisionists / guilt trippers beware - if you keep trying to make people feel guilty for things they had no hand in doing, all you will do is build up resentment and resistance. And that will help no-one. Enjoy your Australia Day everyone!

    • Frightened says:

      01:23pm | 22/01/10

      I wasn’t born in Australia and I don’t feel safe walking down the beach on my own on Australia day, does that make me a whinger? 364 days a year things aren’t perfect but they’re pretty good, Australia day SCARES me.  It used to just be dirty looks, but that’s lead to dirty words, violence will come next and just for talking about this, I get branded a whinger/wet blanket/spoilsport.

      I just wish Australia day could be what it used to be, a nice quiet summer day off where most people slept in and we didn’t need to wave flags or read speeches or pat each other on the back, because we knew we were lucky just to live here.

    • JLo says:

      01:36pm | 22/01/10

      Only because the journos (with only a handful of exceptions) reports that it is so.  There are no sound bites on Mr & Mrs Wong (4th generation) having a gathering in down-town balmain having a gathering or the parties that the new citizens of Oz have on Oz day.  The problem is that there are too many Australian that believe the hype of the media - particularly the commercial stations - who don’t critically consider the news they are being fed and accept all of it as truth.  Australia Day is celebrated (as it should be) in many differing ways by people who’s history is from all walks of life.  I’m not going to feel guilty about my ancestors who stole a hanky and got sent here in chains, I’m not going to feel guilty about others who came here for a better life due to famine in their country of origin and I’m not going to feel guity about the decisions that others made before I was born.  I am going to celebrate the diversity of our great land, the fortune that I have by living here, be thankful that we have option to celebrate how we like and hope that every other person in the country finds an apporpirate way to do the same.

    • Mike says:

      01:38pm | 22/01/10

      Actually Pixie, One of the fundemental parts of Islam is a basic respect and honoring of ALL religions and and their followers. There are many Muslim-Australians who celebrate Australia Day with more ferver than some dyed in the wool Aussieswould even think about it.

    • James says:

      01:40pm | 22/01/10

      As a historian, I would like to ask if there is any way I can study the past and examine both positive and negative aspects without being accused of trying to make people feel guilty?  Just because a historian might find evidence that bad things happened does not mean they want people to cry themselves to sleep over it.  I have relatives from the 19th century who recorded killing Aborigines in their diaries.  I do not feel guilty for this, and why would you think I want you to feel guilty?  Instead, we raise these issues in the interests of honestly - being upfront and honest about our history as a nation.  Historians raise these issues not to make people feel bad, but for the sake of history, and more generally, knowledge.  If you cannot understand why this is important to us, then don’t read history - do something that doesn’t make you feel bad.

    • Mark says:

      02:31pm | 22/01/10

      And this is very disingenuous! Historians have been beating white Australians over the head with an excessively negative viewpoint of our past for decades now. They usually excuse it by saying that they are trying to compensate for the “triumphalism” of history that we, the poor ignorant masses who fund the history departments, get fed by our education system and media.

      >Historians raise these issues not to make people feel bad,
      > but for the sake of history, and more generally, knowledge.

      No, you don’t. You raise them to push your left-wing agendas onto rest of us, and wring compensation out of the government. Try honesty if you really want to promote knowledge.

    • James says:

      02:42pm | 22/01/10

      Hi Mark,

      I admit that some historians might not do these things with the best of intentions, but for most of us it really is about honesty.  I think it is important to understand both the good and the bad.  Are you seriously trying to say that, in order to be honest, we must ignore the bad things, like Aboriginal massacres, or the killing of prisoners of war?  And I am not left-wing at all.  I just recognise the historical record.  Just because I have old documents which record the killing of Aboriginal men, women and children does not mean I am pursuing a left-wing agenda at all.  I could not care less about the activist historians.  I just want the record to reflect the truth, and neither the left-wing nor the right-wing historians do this.

      Please, Mark, tell us what an honest assessment of Australian history should be allowed to examine.  And more to the point, what you think it should leave out.

    • iansand says:

      03:33pm | 22/01/10

      “Everything is for the best in this best of all possible worlds”.  Voltaire intended that as satire.

    • stephen says:

      10:59pm | 22/01/10

      You are not responsible for people’s perceptions. You enquire, state it, then conclude.
      (Hell, that’s clinical.)

    • Greg Hutchison says:

      01:42pm | 22/01/10

      You can still walk down the beach
      I am going cycling before breakfast

      Thats the point you can do what you like and you have a day off
      A few louts doesn’t decide the import of an occasion.

      Australia day celebrates the forming of the nation, not establishment of the States or anything else. The nation has been successful. Why not acknowledge that?

    • James says:

      01:43pm | 22/01/10

      What about 9 October - the day we formally became independent from Britain when the Chifley government passed the Westminster Act, and formally allowed us legislative equality with the British Parliament?

    • AT says:

      02:23pm | 22/01/10

      Sounds good, but it still would be commemorating subservience; “aw look, that’s the day Mother England allowed us to be grown-ups.”

      The day WE declare OURSELVES a republic could more reasonably be dubbed Australia Day.

    • Duck says:

      02:10pm | 22/01/10

      I think the fiirst couple of pars of this article sum it up.
      Australia day has assumed this “proud to be”, “my country right or wrong” ethos that appeals to doppy bogans and Americans for too long.
      Be proud of your acheivements not the country you were lucky to be born in. You passed no test, conquered no mountain just slopped from the womb in Terra Australis or assumed citizenship cause you thought it was a good option.
      The kind of attitude that pervades the masses on Australia day is hand over the heart when the national anthem is played crap that Americans have ascribed to for so long.
      Australians have long appreciated the beauty and richness of their land but sceptically viewed its system of justice, government etc now there is this if you don’t like it then bugger off mentality that sickens the all too few non-knuckle-scrapers left in this country.
      So thanks for the american perspective James but its that kind of patriotic wankerisms that this country is trying to avoid!

    • getoverit says:

      06:51am | 24/01/10

      I assumed citizenship cause I thought it was a good option. I worked cause I thought it was a good option. I breathed cause I thought it was a good option. Can you give me a couple of examples of bad options I could have chosen that would have made me a better person? I’m going to play golf (trying not to scrape the knuckles as it wrecks your glove) and have a BBQ on Australia Day - and do you know why? Cause I think it’s a good option!!

    • Gareth says:

      02:18pm | 22/01/10

      My word you are one unhappy, bitter individual!! Lighten up, you’ll live longer and have a better more fulfilled life, stress is a killer!

    • Henry says:

      02:19pm | 22/01/10

      Where the hell do some of you people live in Australia?  I’d suggest moving suburbs, cities, or states if you are surrounded by these ‘red-necks’ ‘tattooed thugs wrapped in flags - looking to bash peoples heads in’ people.  You need to stop making these huge generalisations about Australia being full of these louts.  I have never seen or heard of anything like it.  Maybe it is because I live in the only non-convict state?  I’d move if i lived in such a shite area.

    • lyle says:

      02:53pm | 22/01/10

      An American Makes Plans
      to Celebrate Australia Day:

      I’ll drink a sixpack, or a few,
      And then I’ll break into the zoo,
      And steal myself a kangaroo—
      One kangaroo, or maybe two.

      And three koalas, maybe four,
      And then we’ll hit the liquor store
      Where we will stagger out the door
      With kegs and chips, and maybe more.

      For safety’s sake, when we all squeeze
      Into the car, I’ll toss the keys
      To one koala, and say, ‘Please
      Stay on the road, avoid the trees.’

      Behind the wheel, the little guy
      Will crank the Bee Gees up, and fly
      While we get high, my mates and I—
      And if he cannot drive, he’ll try.

      It may not be a foolproof plan
      And I’ll improve it if I can;
      I am a conscientious man—
      Perhaps I’ll rent a mini-van.

    • LOL says:

      02:55pm | 22/01/10

      Hahahaha, you know that poster is a knock off of a WWII recruitment poster right?

      Mate, relax, as much as the media loves to bash Australia and how horrible we are…trust me when I say there are many worse places you could be.

      And out of the 3 people in the foreground of the poster on appears to be of foreign nationality…1/3 foreign citizens would be a fair population comparison wouldn’t it?

    • daf says:

      03:05pm | 22/01/10

      Bloody good article!  Good onya and I couldn’t agree more.

    • Rona says:

      03:10pm | 22/01/10

      Yes Saskia, with that kind of atitude most Australians will agree with you but as an Aboriginal woman, just wanted to say, that when it comes to the the BIG DAY, I, with a big majority of blackfellas in this country will definately NOT be celebrating.  Totally has no relevance to me, my family and friends.  What do Aboriginal people have to celebrate for gods sake, except for the fact that we survived, and we’re still here.  Most people who have commented in this column have no idea what being black person in this country really means (or care), and being constantly told to get over what’s happened in the past, is a downright insult and belittles us as a people.  I say, celebrate your day but don’t denigrate Aboriginal people because of it.  You see, you are celebrating your time in this country, not that of Aboriginal people, that’s where the difference lies.

    • AT says:

      03:34pm | 22/01/10

      Henry,

      Two things;  1) I think it’s a misconstruction to call your state “non-convict”. What you missed out on was not just a bunch of prisoners but their overseers who, despite the convict myth, were primarily the ones to steer/rule/define Australia. If you’re implying the tattooed thugs exhibit ‘convict sentiment’, I think you’re being unfair on the convicts — it’s a sentiment just as likely to have descended from the prison guards.

      2) You’re a wimp. Just because you’re unaware of them doesn’t mean they’re not spread far and wide, but to say you’d move if they were near you is cowardly — you would surrender your territory, your home, the place that cradled and cherished you to thugs!? Wimp.

    • Henry says:

      08:32pm | 22/01/10

      You are the ones whinging about it.  Most of us have never seen these thugs you speak of!  I shudder to think of where you live!  Do something about it then… reclaim you burbs - just stop the incessant whinging about rednecks, thugs, kkk, nazis, race-hate etc etc.

    • AT says:

      01:13pm | 23/01/10

      Henry, well may you shudder at the thought of where I live, for I live in the same place you do — Australia. Except I live in the state of NSW and you seem to live in a state of Denial.

      I won’t engage in the undignified exercise of requesting you explain what you mean by “You are the ones” and “Most of us”, but if ‘most of you’ are unaware of “rednecks, thugs, kkk, nazis, race-hate etc etc.”, I don’t reckon youse are therefore entitled to tell us to “stop the incessant whinging” about them. Our incessant whinging is one method of ‘reclaiming our burbs’ which you mockingly and bravely tell us, from the safe and secure cosy comfort of your bucolic paradise, is something we should be doing —even though you seem to question the existence of these thugs in the first place.

      But in any event, Henry, it’s an ideological battle not a geographic or physical one.

      Wherever you are I wish you a happy Australia Day, just keep a critical gaze on the horizon, this peril can invisibly waft over and complete engulf you and you suburb without you even noticing — may have already happened.

    • RickofMelb says:

      04:28pm | 22/01/10

      Australia’s best is well and truly behind it unfortunately! Were a deteriorating society led by infuriating pontificating academics with theories that belong in Disney land. I wish I could form a political party and represent the majority of what Aussies want and need! However, I cannot with this corrupt, immoral preferential system designed to keep the everyday person out of parliament and the elected elite in. We need a revolt, ala the Eureka Stockade!

    • Chris says:

      12:54pm | 23/01/10

      I tend to agree that Australia’s best is well and truly behind us, but I suspect for different reasons. A relative of mine who is 86 says to me that she knew Australia when it was at its best, and she’s very grateful for that. She means before materialism was such an issue-people were happy with their lot and just getting by. She went through the Depression and the privations of a world war-can you imagine Australians being stoic about those sorts of restrictions on their lives now? The bush was part of the outskirts of major cities-and not swallowed by the relentless urban sprawl as it is now. It was safer-people really did leave their doors unlocked. Life’s simple pleasures really were that-simple.
      The worst thing about Australia Day for me is that all those flags that are so vigorously waved are made in China and nobody seems to care-there’s a bit of irony there.

    • Jim says:

      06:14pm | 23/01/10

      I do believe a certain fish and chip shop owner tried that in the 90’s…even scored over a million primary votes in Queensland in her first campaign. Unfortunately political correctness stepped in and some tree hugger from Tasmania who received less than 3000 primary votes ended up holding the balance of power and becoming one of the most powerful politicians around.

    • Peter B says:

      04:39pm | 24/01/10

      Rick you obviously don’t understand the voting system. Preferential voting means the most prefered candidate gets in. The problem with our system is not preferential voting, it is single member electorates, which keep minority viewpoints out.

    • Reform Now says:

      05:37pm | 22/01/10

      Two appalling things about Australia Day:
      1.)  Having to see all those flags with the Union Jack.
      2.) The list of civil servants getting gongs from the unaccountable Order of Australia.

    • Amanda says:

      06:51pm | 22/01/10

      Home is where the heart is and I am proud of my home and what I make my life.I love living in Australia ,born and bred here as were many of my mixed ancestory.I really feel sorry for people who put Australia day down and do not celebrate their life as what home means to them.Why worry about every pollie , journo or media has to say .. .It is our beautiful country ....go out experience it .....live life, walk a beach in North QLD go camping climb a mountain we can do this ,it’s all here.I am proud to call Australia my home I love this beautiful country. I will be celebrating on the 26th of January proudly.

    • Reform Now says:

      07:35pm | 22/01/10

      Amanda, yes Australia is a beautiful country. However, there is major room for improvement. There are significant social problems and the lack of accountability in government should concern us all.

    • Matt says:

      07:12pm | 22/01/10

      nice post. i like the beer and bbq etc but i still think australia day is a load of shit. the real australia daze are anzac day, all around the christmas season and just about any long weekend. i never feel less australian than on a day when i’m told to celebrate australia. that kind of stuff is unaustralian, frankly.

    • Brett says:

      07:35am | 23/01/10

      im sick of   see   flags everywhere they wearing in their underwears what kind of flag love   underyour pants media using to many times   aussie word
      aussie man aussie girl aussie family   why media calling first national name   just call them people or woman girl man family   Media responsable all racial activities.

    • Kendo says:

      09:06am | 23/01/10

      Lay off the ‘stars’ tattoos please - lot’s of nice people (me included?) have them.  The simplest and most helpful lesson I learnt from my parents was “don’t judge a book by it’s cover” and if we all applied this in our day-to-day lives, things would take a turn for the better.  You are what you do not what you look like.  Have a good Australia day!

    • Andrew says:

      11:44am | 23/01/10

      James, I appreciate the sentiment..  For most Australians, Aust Day is a celebration of the birth of a new day.
      But if I were aboriginal, I might see it as a day when my tribal lands were taken.. & my society largely broken. Perhaps a bit like what might have happened to us, when the japanese tried to invade Australia .. and attacked the US. I wonder if we would celebrate the bombing of Pearl Harbour.. or the day troops set foot in N.Q. & took over our houses.
        We migth say that it wasn’t done by us, but our forefathers. But Australia & the U.S. are in receipt of stolen goods? Until we have dealt with the loss of an important group of Australians & reconciled our guilt, we shall not be able to be freely celebrate, as a nation… There’s work to be done.. Happy Australia day..

    • The Overlord says:

      12:19pm | 23/01/10

      The only ones whining about Australia Day and the Republic are those that have never suffered.  All the trendy bludgers and left-wing dills, in other words.  All the children and grand children of Gough and successive do-gooding, half witted Labor Governments.  If you don’t like it here P.O.Q.  If you were born here and don’t like it find somewhere to P.O.Q.

    • Makeme says:

      02:23pm | 23/01/10

      Yes let us all see who can be the most white trash! Lets see who can pin the most flags to their chest and chant racial slurs while getting drunk. Australia day is nothing to be proud of because Australia is nothing to be proud of.

    • Citizen says:

      04:56pm | 23/01/10

      Makeme - A simple solution - if you aren’t proud to be an Australian move to another country that suits your own values or perhaps instead of whingeing about it do something helpful. No one is forcing you to celebrate with us.  I am sure someone from another country would jump at the opportunity to take your place here.

    • Tealtrack says:

      05:56pm | 24/01/10

      So Citizen, what you are saying is that if you don’t like the way things are like.. i don’t know white trash morons perpetuating racism, instead of trying to do anything about it you should just give up and abandon your home?  I am not proud to be you’re idea of what an Australian is, I don’t drink until i’m blind and then brag about it, I don’t wear Flags, and I don’t Slur my words into incomprehensible slang, yet some how, I am still an Australian… amazing isn’t it.

    • Leah says:

      09:45pm | 24/01/10

      If Australia is nothing to be proud of, then go and live somewhere else.

      If you think it is shameful to be proud of one’s flag, then you are a shame.

      A vast, vast majority of Australians do not get drunk nor make racial slurs on Australia day. Just because there’s a vocal minority who do (and the media gives them attention) doesn’t mean the rest of us should miss out on the day. You obviously just can’t see past the media’s disproportionate representations of Australia Day.

    • Makeme says:

      03:32am | 26/01/10

      Citizen - I’m sure some one else would like to take my place, but aren’t we just so lucky we have flag waving bogans to keep those nasty refuge’s out? Because clearly poor black people are far inferior to the poor white people who already live here.

      Leah - if i were to go live some where else I am sure i would be asked “So whats Australian culture like” and what would i say? It has American Television? American Music? Thongs? Alcohol? Barbeque’s? forgive me if i don’t salute every time some shirtless yob parades their southern cross tattoo through the mall… and i’m not relying on the media for my view on Australia day, i can see it myself. everywhere.

    • Shane From Melbourne says:

      02:57pm | 23/01/10

      By all means wave the Australian Flag- just remember that the flag was made in China…..

    • Glenn Beck says:

      04:38pm | 23/01/10

      “Australia’s reputation as one of the most tolerant and progressive societies in the world.”

      HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

      Nice joke. Now let the jibberers on here get back to tolerantly calling everyone a self-hating leftoid. Let them get back to whinging about bogans and aboriginies.

    • Jim says:

      06:18pm | 23/01/10

      It’s a shame it took an American born journo to point out that it’s OK to take pride in Australia Day…all other journos have for years been trying to shame all white, ordinary, hard working Aussies without an arts degree of some sort into sticking our humble hand up and saying “yes, we are redneck racists, please allow our culture to deteriorate as it is baaaad”

    • Tommy Hammond says:

      09:15pm | 23/01/10

      Well articulated, Australia day is about appreciating the fact that we’re Australians and it doesn’t necessarily mean barbies and beer (and if it does, so what?).  Yes, our history has it problems and our present has its problems too but so does every country (and I’ve lived in 4 other countries, nice as some of there were, they had their problems too).

    • Matt says:

      01:50am | 24/01/10

      I cannot be proud of a country that is ruled by people who seem to be actively destroying everything that western society stands for. Democracy does not even exist in a proper form, we instead have a sham where a small group of people decide what is best for all of us, treating us like children.

      At least in Switzerland, if enough people lodge enough complaints laws can be repealed, or reviewed at least. Over here we’re lucky to have it even mentioned because of a few protests.

      Not to mention the constant scare campaigns against all the ills of society, such as drugs and alcohol, because gods forbid we can’t have freedom of choice. It’s not like we’re human beings or anything.

      Oh and the mandatory internet filter ala China. This is the greatest insult to freedom of speech and democracy yet, not only do we have NO say in it whatsoever, but it’s not even effective and has been proven to block completely law abiding websites.

      This country has become pathetic, drowned in a wave of misguided nationalism.

    • Steve says:

      09:00am | 24/01/10

      Wow.. What a bunch of wowsers calling Australia Day Rubbish. Australia Day is a celebration of who we are TODAY and quiet frankly I can not think of a better nation to belong to. It is not about glorifying the past, it is about celebrating everything that we fought for to allow us to celebrate the way we can today
      Australia Day is about being Light Hearted, Not Too Serious, Free to Express yourself knowing that when the going gets tough we all pull together as a nation.
      If you are ashamed of Australians being Australian on Australia Day, then I suggest you pull up stumps and find a home better suited to you.
      Looking forward to a VB and some “Lamb on the BBQ” on Tuesday. Berocca on Wednesday.

    • James Leon says:

      09:25am | 24/01/10

      I have no problem with there being an Australia Day. Just not on the 26th of January which commemorates Invasion Day. Why not pick another day? Then we can all celebrate!

    • Mick says:

      11:21am | 24/01/10

      Austraia Day is a good thing! I’m still trying to understand WHY we have a public holiday for a damned horse race in Victoria - The Melbourne Cup?  A public holiday for a horse race???

    • Peter B says:

      03:23pm | 24/01/10

      A national day is good, but January 26 is the wrong one, for two reasons. First, as the start of European settlement. it ignore indigenous history. Second, on January 26 1788 what was proclaimed was not Australia but the colony of NSW; so the day carries little meaning for the other five states. In fact until a generation ago Jan 26 was a holiday in NSW only. Our national day should be January 1, the anniversary of Commonwealth of Australia.

    • marley says:

      08:09pm | 24/01/10

      Until Australia becomes a Republic, then maybe we can have a day we can all celebrate.  I just hope the politicians schedule it properly.  Mid-March might be good.

    • Ron says:

      03:58pm | 24/01/10

      It’s a shame that our national day has to be shrouded in politics and over-analysis. For me personally, it’s a day for throwing a snag on the barbie, tuning in and channel surfing between the Australian Open and the first day of the Australia Day test match, flying a flag from the roof of my car, and proudly displaying the pride I feel in the country in which I live. Not once has any of these things been hampered by the history of this country, be it good or bad. I’m an Aussie and that’s that. No amount of politics or debating will effect that.

    • Stephen of morwell says:

      04:22pm | 24/01/10

      you are all immigrants and perpetrators of theft, for us from the koorie community its invasion day, the war is not over the struggle remins

    • Senexx says:

      05:23pm | 24/01/10

      Stephen of Morwell

      I think Minnie Mace who I saw on SBS’s Living Black quite some time ago talking about various faiths of today’s Aboriginals said it best.

      She said:

        “I think that all faiths, religions are like a string of pearls with a thread of truth running through all of them. And I believe that respect for one’s self, respect of others and respect for the environment, the sum total is the respect for God. I don’t believe in an invasion because I believe in a divine arrangement. The English language has broken down 600 language barriers – we couldn’t even talk to each other. And if I don’t want to get up in the morning, I don’t have to – I’ve got a fridge at home, I don’t have to hunt and gather every day to survive. And I’d rather be tracking down a kangaroo on the back of a fast-moving ute than running him down on foot. Our ancestors suffered so we could have all these benefits today and our kids don’t respect anything because they’re so full of hate and anger and that’s brought about by these academics perpetuating a noble savage on one hand, and we have a sense of grieving for paradise lost, and, on the other hand, it’s an invasion. We were advancing spiritually and they were advancing technologically and now we’ve all been brought together we have to understand each other’s culture, each other’s belief and then set a good standard for the future generations.”

      I think that’s such a beautiful and honest way of looking at it.

    • Ron says:

      07:23pm | 24/01/10

      That’s a racist thing to say Stephen and as a representative of your people you should probably think a little more about what you just said. You have just called me a perpetrator of theft. You don’t know me and yet you presume to judge me? Is this not the sort of thing the aboriginal community has struggled against? And yet here you are doing the exact same thing.

    • Kade says:

      08:00pm | 24/01/10

      Stephen, no offence, but you and your ancestors need to move on and stop living in the past. Reconciliation day was held 2 years ago but some of the aboriginal people are persistent not to accept it.

      I have alot of aboriginal/australian mates and they totally disagree to what your ancestors believe and what you believe. They have great jobs, loving families, loving life and not dwelling in the past.

      The government is trying to help you and your people, but you dont want to help yourselves.

      This country would be nothing without the immigrants who built this country and made it to one of the greatest nations in the world.

      What war are you talking about stephen? the only war i see for you is your sad soul trapped in the past.

    • Kel says:

      09:34pm | 24/01/10

      Geez Stephen I wish I could find out which Mongol hordes and others were the last to invade my father’s homeland Slovakia, so I can spew forth with hatred and vengeance ... oh actually I think it was the Nazi’s .... %$^% I wish you lot would get over yourselves! Take a look at European and Asian history, it’s full of hostile takeovers, ethnic cleansing, genocide, starvation, disease. Stop acting like you were the only people ever to be ‘invaded’ by another! I refuse to feel guilt because I committed the sin of being born a white Australian.  It’s not my fault I’m not indigenous and I refuse to take on any of the shit and guilt people like yourself expect. Take a moment to step out of the shadow of your own hatred and racism, and work out how you can make a difference to your people, so that everyone in this country has the same opportunities. The fact is you cannot remove all non-indigenous people from this country. How many generations do non-indigenous people have to live here before we are ‘allowed’ to feel like this is our home?

    • Matt says:

      03:45am | 25/01/10

      Simply being the first to arrive does not denote ownership, both parties are in the wrong.

      I fail to see what makes us different from aboriginals. We are all humans, no?

      Oh if only Carl Sagan were still alive.

    • Al says:

      07:29am | 25/01/10

      There is NO SUCH THING as a truly indigeinous population ANYWHERE in the world.
      This is Scientific FACT.
      Stop the misinformation, including statements that ‘Aboriginal’ or Koorie peoples live in harmony with nature (they were primarily implicated in the mass extinction of ‘native’ wildlife when they first arrived some 40000 years ago).
      Lets stop the ‘victim’ mentality, face that you are not treated equaly (ever heard of Abstudy, which is higher than Austudy based on your race?) and that as long as this inequality in treatment exists you will be resented as a people.
      If you want to be treated equaly, then deny yourselves special treatment based on race.
      P.S. The War as you put it was lost a LONG time ago due to superior technology and tactics, if you choose to look at it as ongoing you are deluding yourself.

    • Amused & Bemused says:

      05:54pm | 24/01/10

      I wish AmOz’s post could be deleted. Totally cringeworthy.. this is why we still can them Yanks.

    • Rod says:

      07:51pm | 24/01/10

      Im of Filipino decent and i was born in Australia, im proud to be an Aussie and i love this country and its offerings.

      Australia day is to celebrate as “Australians” whether your from another ethnic origin please make this day a wonderful day for you and everyone else.

    • Leah says:

      09:42pm | 24/01/10

      Thankyou.

      Stephen of Morwell, no. Aboriginals were immigrants too. Most people in the world are descended from immigrants, except for, depending on your beliefs, a bunch of African or Middle-Eastern tribes.

      How about we leave the political debates for another day and focus on Australia Day for what it is - a celebration of our freedom and our wonderful country.

      Mick - it’s only Victoria that gets the public holiday, so it’s not that big a deal elsewhere raspberry (I mean, the race obviously is, but the holiday bit isn’t.)

    • poo says:

      06:26am | 25/01/10

      hey hey its Australian Day.  No matter what color we are as Australian’s we should celebrate together.  I like the idea of one of the commentators to make cds for Advance Australia in different languages.  What ever political views we have we are still all Australians and are stuck together to make this into a great and beautiful country.  So lets celeberate.  HAPPY AUSSIE DAY everyone.

    • Sara says:

      11:47am | 25/01/10

      A great article James!
      I appreciate January 26th is a contentious choice but lets look at it closely. It was the start of the first European settlement in Australia and therefore relevant to all Australia (and January 1st is a poor option because most people would not bother to honour it), the original aims of the colony were not attack on the Aboriginal population, unfortunately this came later but if we look at this particular day, it was non violent. I would think that many other days would be riskier, what if the day had been placed unthinkingly on the same day as the Myall Massacre? Or to commemorate the date that government passed Assimilation policies?
      It also marks the first date of written history for Australia and the introduction of European medicines, language, education and other innovations that allow all born in this country to compete globally.
      As the day of first settlement, it represents all who have migrated to Australia, it represents all that is both good and sad about our history as a National Day should (just compare to Bastille Day which essentially marks both the start of significant freedom in France as well as a period of terror and revolution).
      It is important to have a National Day that actually falls on a significant day in history and I cannot think of any other day in Australian history that has such a marked affect on ALL Australians. National Days are about reflection but they are also about celebration - that we live in such a beautiful country with great opportunities, a multicultural country which, yes is still struggling, but it exists and a country where we do have a voice, we can offer unpopular views.
      I appreciate that many Aboriginal Australians find this a difficult day but the past cannot be changed and if invasion day it is, at least that particular day was a non-violent one. I am not asking you to “get over” what has happened. We should not forget the past and should remember the sad as well as the good but I am asking you to make the day your own, reclaim it and find a significance in it that is not completely devastating - reflect but look with hope to the future.

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      09:29am | 14/09/10

      Just wondering if eBay makes it possible for you to sell concert tickets on-line? Do you know if you will discover any restrictions based on what country you are in?

      My parents have just called me and asked if i could “get rid” of their two tickets to a concert as they wont have the ability to make it due to an additional family event.

      Besides asking pals etc, i thought ebay would be a great location to sell them.

      But whats ebay’s policy on marketing tickets? Ive heard alot about it about the news but ive forgotten what happened.

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