EAST Timorese Prime Minister Xanana Gusmao has taken in recent weeks to heavily bagging Australia, including a strange speech in which he, seemingly apropos of nothing, dug deep into the past and said Australia had selfishly cost the lives of 60,000 East Timorese by coming to Timor to “wage war” against the Japanese in World War II.

It might not be all smiles if they met today. East Timorese president Xanana Gusmao with Kevin Rudd. Pic: Ray Strange / File

Gusmao has also been claiming Australian interference in its sovereign rights. Australia is studying the rhetoric closely, with good reason. As Gusmao slams Australia, his country’s biggest aid donor, Gusmao has allowed China for the first time to gain a small de facto military foothold in East Timor.

China now has naval training crews operating out of Dili aboard two gunboats which East Timor bought from China, and which were formally handed over last week. Gusmao’s attacks on Australia, and his newfound military cooperation with China, are seen as related.

It all ties into Gusmao’s fury that Woodside Petroleum, an Australian company, has decided to build a floating natural gas platform in the Greater Sunrise field in the Timor Sea, rather than piping the liquefied gas onshore to Timor. Gusmao wants to see the gas coming ashore in Timor, in order to kick-start real industry in his country, and to provide Timorese with skills.

Woodside thinks building a pipeline across deep water to Timor, and an onshore plant, is too expensive. Gusmao appears to have the notion that the Australian government is an arm of Woodside, and that it is actively supporting Woodside’s decision. He is threatening to block the project, which would see $32bn in revenue shared between the governments of Timor and Australia.

While it has been known for several years that East Timor would buy the Jaco-class patrol boats from China, it was not anticipated that they would be operated by, for the foreseeable future, the Chinese navy. Fairfax media reported this as a “slap in the face for Australian diplomacy”.

It is just a couple of boats, and it makes sense that the Chinese navy should provide training to the people who buy their boats. But up till now, the role of training Timorese military has fallen, by mutual consent, to Australia.

China is interested in Timor’s oil and gas, not to mention its strategic location. It has been a heavy donor, gifting the people of Timor an imposing presidential palace, a defence force headquarters and ministry of foreign affairs building. Now it is forging what could be seen as military ties.

“Australia is reasonably relaxed but there is probably concern that China is increasing its influence in Timor in fairly direct ways,” said Professor Damien Kingsbury, a Timor expert at Deakin University’s School of International and Political Studies. “It’s not just soft power and generous aid. When you have Chinese crews on Chinese military vessels, in Timorese waters under a Timorese flag, it does potentially raise concerns.”

East Timor nestles between Indonesia and Australia. Both countries might – along with the US – be uncomfortable about the new arrangements with China, especially when seen in light of Gusmao’s increasingly intemperate remarks about Australia.

On Friday, at the handover ceremony of the patrol boats, Gusmao attacked on Australia’s supposed interference in its sovereign rights. This was presumably done for the benefit of Australia’s ambassador to East Timor, Peter Heywood, who attended.

Gusmao said: “This decision [to buy the boats from China] caused some public outcry, and above all, drew criticism from some countries, particularly Australia, which was greatly surprised at not having been consulted in this process.”

In fact, East Timor’s decision to buy the boats drew no public outcry from Australian political leaders whatsoever, nor has there been any public condemnation of the decision to use Chinese naval crews. But Indonesia and Australia, which each sent a naval patrol boat to the ceremony, must have listened on bemused. 

Kingsbury doubts Australia diplomats have privately dressed down Gusmao over the gunboats, or his remarks in general, and are instead maintaining a gentle and conciliatory approach. But Gusmao is clearly nursing a savage temper for Australia and no one is too sure where it will take him.

Gusmao has been remarkably forgiving on Indonesia for the blood it spilt on his land, but he is not so forgiving with Australia when it comes to oil and gas. The anger goes back to 1989, when former foreign minister Gareth Evans, with his Indonesian counterpart, Ali Alatas, signed the Timor Sea Treaty, which divided oil and gas spoils off the south coast of Timor and, once again, confirmed the official Australian view that Indonesia’s occupancy of Timor was legitimate.

In 2005, with East Timor now independent, then foreign minister, Alexander Downer, struck an agreement to defer for 50 years all maritime disputes in the Timor Gap, and for government revenues from the Greater Sunrise oil and gas field (which hangs over the edge of the Timor Gap area, in disputed waters) to be shared 50:50 between the two countries.

Many East Timorese believe Australia has ripped them off on oil and gas, by claiming its territorial waters push right up against the south coast of Timor. But Timor’s frustrations on this have been relatively mute for several years (perhaps in the light of the Australian military being called in, twice since 2006, to restore order within the country).

Gusmao reactivated the bitterness in a speech to development partners in Dili, on April 7. He veered widely from the subject of development, complaining (accurately) that the US had given Indonesia permission to invade East Timor in 1975, and adding that the US, France and Germany had provided Indonesia with “weapons, tanks, fighters and training, so as to annihilate the resistance of our small guerrilla army”.

He saved the real blast for Australia. “Adding insult to injury,” he said, “after recognising the integration – the only Western country to do so – Australia signed an agreement with Indonesia, in 1989, to share the wealth of the Timor Sea. Meanwhile, around 200,000 Timorese died trying to protect their rights during the 24 years of war.

“[W]e had the Japanese occupation from 1941 to 1945. Although short-lived, this occupation covered the entire country and caused great suffering to the Timorese, including the deaths of around 60,000 people. According to reliable opinions, this suffering could have been prevented if the Australian forces had not come to Timor-Leste in order to wage war here, so as to prevent the Japanese from invading Australia.”

It was true that Australia had gone to (then) Portuguese Timor in order to protect Australia. But what was Gusmao saying? That the occupancy of the Japanese imperial army was preferable? And what, by the way, would have become of the Timorese people at war’s end had they sided openly with Japan?

More to the point, why bring this up at a development partners meeting? The subtext was Woodside.

“Gusmao has been ramping this up over the last six or so weeks,” said Kingsbury. “Australia has been wondering where all this is coming from. On one hand, the formal relationship is in pretty good shape, but some of the rhetoric is pretty fiery and there is concern that it has the potential to destabilise the relationship.

“It’s overwhelmingly about Woodside. There’s a couple of other issues about the direction of Australia aid, but if you dig down even that is predicated on having a go at Australia about Woodside. The view in Timor is that the Australian government has a direct hand in the Woodside process. The view of Australia, obviously, is that it doesn’t.”

Kingsbury said comments by Resources Minister Martin Ferguson that Woodside’s decision to build a floating plant was purely commercial, and that the government had no say in it, was interpreted in Timor as Ferguson’s implicit support of Woodside.

“There is an assumption that the Australian government has a capacity to control Woodside,” said Kingsbury. Gusmao seems to think the Australian government could – or should - threaten Woodside into piping gas onshore to Timor. “But that would make current debate over the resources tax a drop in the ocean,” said Kingsbury. “That would be direct interference in the commercial operations of a private company and short of Australia becoming Cuba, I can’t see that happening.”

At the gunboat handover ceremony on Friday, Gusmao told those present that East Timor could not consider itself independent “if every time we are to make a fundamental decision, we have to consult our neighbouring, friendly and partner countries”.

Even as the overall level of Australian aid to East Timor increases, Gusmao is indeed well within his rights to make sovereign decisions. But it appears he is intent on dragging some of the quiet off-stage concerns that Australia has expressed to him into the light. And he is sidling up to China in order to vent his anger at Australia over Woodside. 

“Australia is probably looking askance at the crews because that does put a Chinese military presence pretty close to Australian sovereign waters,” said Kingsbury. “That’s a legitimate issue but there hasn’t been anything public said about it. There may have been some private discussions, but no bullying or threats associated with it. I think it’s a case that any commentary, or discussion, is perceived as interference.

“That’s a very traditional position for a number of countries in South-East Asia. If there is any commentary on affairs in China, that’s seen as interference. Up until 1998, in Indonesia, they took the same view.”

Kingsbury believes that East Timor considers, for the time being, Australia a more valuable friend than China. So is this just a little dummy spit by Gusmao, a reflection of his desire to see Timor stand on its own, or something more?

“They’re very aware of the reality of geographic proximity and they’re very aware Australia is easily their biggest aid donor, and is likely to continue to be,” said Kingsbury. “They’re very aware that the boundary maritime issues need to be negotiated with Australia in the future. Australia, particularly under Downer, has played a tough game. They know Australia can be a good friend but a tough opponent. But they’re not going to make an enemy out of Australia.”

Yet it appears that is precisely what Gusmao is trying to do. Kingsbury says it must be remembered that Gusmao is currently working across the nation, trying to talk up a major infrastructure program to improve roads, water, sanitation and electricity. The people on the south coast of Timor are particularly bereft when it comes to these basic commodities, and Gusmao believes if Woodside were to come onshore in that part of Timor, much would improve for them.

“What is disconcerting to the Australian government is the intemperate and the inflammatory use of language,” said Kingsbury. “Xanana and the government have done pretty well in the first few years of office, but not everything’s gone their way. (Opposition party) Fretilin has scored some wins in the nationalist debate and certainly Xanana’s having a go at Australia, but he’s also speaking to a domestic audience as he talks up the infrastructure program. He’s trying to rally the troops.”

Australia has been a schizophrenic friend to Timor, variously abandoning it, liberating it, screwing it and helping it. And it is arguable that our debts to Timor are not yet paid in full. Perhaps mindful of that, Australia is letting Gusmao rant and rave, hoping he’ll calm down before he says – or does – something he might truly regret.

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    • John A Neve says:

      05:48am | 15/06/10

      I think East Timors stance is very understandable, they are a small country who at this stage need all the help they can get.
      China has the ability to offer far more in every way than Australia. Let’s face it, as afr as the Timor sea oil is concerned we have treated East Timor very badly.
      Gusmoa is doing the right thing by his country and it’s people, he is playing both sides to the middle seeking the best option for East Timor.

    • ~Winnie~ says:

      08:54am | 15/06/10

      Aid given by Australia is so soon forgotten by snotty ungrateful nations.  Gusmoa has no class bagging Australia in front of an Australian diplomat at the handover of the patrol boats, just to make sure we get his surly message.
      Sneaky tactics getting patrol boats made in China, probably paid for by Australian Aid, so the Chinese can get a bit closer to : where the gold is buried:  why wasn’t this news in the press?
      Chinese gun boats legally in the Timor sea…great!!!

    • T.Chong says:

      12:04pm | 15/06/10

      Damn pesky Chinese. When they complain about the mining tax surcharge they are “‘good Chinese”“, now these same are’” bad ““Chinese because their selling military hardware, just like we do!  Quick hide under the bed - Reds and unionists there already ?  Damn,  just remember to save that last bullet.

    • Kaynaha says:

      07:16pm | 15/06/10

      Hi Wennie,
      Your observation is simplistict, and biased. Above all, it is a reflection of your intellectual ignorance of Timor Leste history.
      Do you think being poor is equal to being stupid. We are not stupid as of your limited knowledge of my country. It is a pitty that you who live in a democratic country like Australia have such inferior and narrow minded point of view about Timorese, who bravely without your government support fought for our independence as a nation and a community.

    • Zaf says:

      10:13am | 15/06/10

      I guess we really shouldn’t promote independence for places like East Timor (and Irian Jaya?) without really thinking through the possible consequences - ie independent actions. 

      The Indonesians may not like Chinese crewed ships so close to them, but I bet they’re still laughing at us now.

    • AdamC says:

      10:20am | 15/06/10

      Australia is a bit like the US of the Pacific - a useful scapegoats for the bumbling oligarchies of states on the precipice of failure. I can understand Timor’s desire to use its energy resources to develop genuine industries, but bitching publicly about your friends is hardly likely to convince commercial organisations to impose additional costs on themselves. (It’s actually more likely to make them worry about sovereign risk.) I take it Gusmao would like a big subsidy from Australia to facilitate the piping of the gas?

      In any event, Timor’s small club of professional politicians should keep in mind that, while Australia helps Timor prtially out of her own self-interest, she also does so out of a genuine sense of goodwill. China, on the other hand, is only interested in its own Asian influence and Timor’s energy resources. Let’s face it, if Timor was par of China rather than Indonesia, East Timor would be a divided province and Gusmao, Horta and the like would be in exile, prison or worse.

    • Rumpleteazer says:

      11:23am | 15/06/10

      AdamC,  well said, Gusmao may be shooting himself in the foot!

    • Anjuli says:

      11:18am | 15/06/10

      Does Gusmau really think that in World war 2 that the Japanese would have left East Timor alone when it is a strategic position for a hop skip and a jump to Australia ,I think not.It is nice to have some one to blame though.My husband has a saying He who does his best gets his A—kicked like all the rest.

    • Dark Rider says:

      11:41am | 15/06/10

      I have never understood why we helped this raggedy arsed “country” gain independence. Now the ungrateful bastards are thumbing their noses at us. Screw them, cease all aid forthwith.

    • Teash says:

      08:53am | 11/10/10

      Hi Dark Rider understand this:

      Hhhhmmm let me see maybe because they helped us a great deal more than we helped them?? In World War Two they hid many of our soldiers despite tempting offers from the Japanese.They saved the lives of thousands of Australians then. They housed them and fed them with no reward but alittle hut and swimming pool we donated. When a third of their population was slaughtered and so many more scarred if not physically then mentally under the 24 year reign of the Indonesian Government and unspeakable crimes committed. They have more than enough right to kick us up the a after the way we ignored them when they begged us for help. It took us 24 years to finally get up and do something and even then it was much less than they deserved. Over 40 000 Timor Leste people were killed fighting and protecting Australians in World War Two. Sending 2000 “peace - keeping troops” and a little bit of aid is the very least we can do we owe them much more.

    • Uncle Buck says:

      12:59pm | 15/06/10

      What a good article! In a short space you have managed to go across enough of the nuances of the Eat Timor/Australia relationship to give an outsider like me a feel for some of the issues.
      However, given the nature and scarcity of responses; ie: Ultra nationalism and only 8 responses: it is probably wasted (sorry Penbo) on much of the Punchs’ audience. It would be more fitting on the opinion pages of the Australian (move over Greg).

    • James says:

      01:38pm | 15/06/10

      I think East Timor is quite right to be angry, we stood by while Indonesia wiped out a third of their population, per capita more deaths than Russia suffered during WW2.  I think we have a long way to go before we repay our debts to them, our squabbling over oil and gas revenue is pretty undignified.

      If I were East Timorese I would be f***** pissed of if ordinary Australians wanted me to be greatful to them (as opposed to the Australians that go to East Timor and actually help out.)

      Slagging off East Timor for not kissing our arse shows an ugly nacisistic attitude that makes me want to puke.

    • James1 says:

      12:42pm | 16/06/10

      What could we do about it James?  I have done a lot of research into the issue for my PhD thesis, and believe me the only way Australia could have prevented the Indonesian invasion - had we even wanted to (which we didn’t) - was to precipitate a shooting war with Suharto’s Indonesia.  The harsh reality of international politics is it was better for Timor to go to Indonesia than for a tiny, isolated state on our doorstep to become independent and turn to a potentially hostile power for assistance.  Why would Australia go to war for the sake of such an outcome?  How many dead Australians do you think the government would have been willing to see so that a forgotten corner of the region could exercise self determination, particularly on the heels of the fall of Saigon and the Vietnam War.

      Your oversimplification of the possible courses of action open to Australia does your clear passion on this subject a disservice.

    • James says:

      03:07pm | 16/06/10

      James1 you miss the point entirely, certainly there is very little we were prepared to do for East Timor in a military sense and maybe that was the right decision.  But we went beyond that and turned a blind eye to atrocities, we didn’t really lift a finger to help East Timor until 1999 at which point we cynically muscled our way in to get our share of oil and gas from the Timor gap.  I’m sure the Timorese didn’t expect Australia to have an all out war with Indonesia but we could have applied way more diplomatic pressure than we did.

      My point is that some Australians rightly deserve the gratitude of East Timor (i.e. the Soldiors who went in in 1999, the aid workers and the East Timor activists).  But Joe public to expecting East Timor’s gratitude is a bit rich, it shows a very selective view of history.  I don’t think the government really expect East Timor’s gratitude as the know exactly how we have acted towards them over the last 40 years.

      The East Timorese have been stuffed over for a very long time, a real friend would recognise that and give them a fair go at having a real future.

    • James1 says:

      04:46pm | 16/06/10

      True James.  The very idea that Howard’s intention in sending that letter to Habibie was to help East Timor gain independence is pretty laughable anyway.

      I still maintain that diplomatic pressure would have achieved nothing in 1975 though.  After the UDT coup and Fretilin’s victory in the short civil war, the only thing that could have stopped Indonesia from doing what it did would have been a military intervention.  After that, the first opportunity for a shift in Indonesian Timor policy was the fall of the Suharto regime, and defacto recognition or otherwise, there was nothing Australia could do about the situation short of military intervention.

    • Teash says:

      08:55am | 11/10/10

      Could not agree more.

    • Shane From Melbourne says:

      02:20pm | 15/06/10

      Where’s a covert operation when you need one?

    • John W says:

      03:16pm | 15/06/10

      As a veteran of the INTERFET operation in East Timor, I find the treatment of post-independence East Timor by both the previous and current Australian governments to be absolutely deplorable.

      It makes me deeply ashamed that my government still takes half the revenue from gas well within East Timor’s exclusive economic zone. It’s not our money to take and we don’t need it half as much as the East Timorese do. In fact, we should be paying back all the money we made during the years of our illegal Timor Gap treaty with Indonesia.

      Rather than asking East Timor to show gratitude for our half-baked and hollow efforts at making up for several historical abuses and making excuses for why it can’t influence Woodside, why doesn’t our government take some of the aid money it’s providing to East Timor (and the profits it’s made from years of stealing their gas revenue) and use that cash to fund the extra expense of a pipeline and onshore plant in East Timor. It’s not just a worthy use for the money, it’s good for our regional security. How many countries without the ability to independently support themselves economically have stable governments or societies? Something like this could make East Timor a regional gas powerhouse and a valuable member of the international community, but our government, probably the only country in the world in a position to make it happen, is more interested in empty guestures of friendship and small-time aid initiatives.

      Mr Paul Toohey - I have a lot of respect for your work as a journalist, I rarely feel you get it wrong and your last par sums up our relationship with East Timor very well, but I do feel this story leans against them slightly. Let’s remember that during WWII Australia invaded East Timor before the Japanese, who had respected the sovereignty of other nations not involved in the war during their push through the Pacific. The argument that our invasion prevented Japan from using Timor as a launch pad for an invasion of Australia are ill-founded and even our government of the time came to the belief that it wouldn’t happen - they pulled our commandos out of there, leaving to suffer at the hands of the Japanese those East Timorese people who helped our guys and even when they had the whole island to themselves, the Japanese didn’t use it as a platform to invade Australia - Papua New Guinea and the Solomons were always their preference in that regard.

    • Paul Toohey says:

      04:45pm | 15/06/10

      Thanks for your comments, John W. I have tried to present some straight analysis, albeit seen from an outsider’s perspective. I agree Australia could be much fairer about the Timor Gap, but I’m not sure the gas pipeline makes practical sense. But Gusmao’s desire to start real industry in his country does.

      Remembering that China already has a foot in the door with oil and gas, I agree that it would be desirable if Australia used its expertise to help Timor get its industry going. But does it need to be a gas pipeline?

      Gusmao’s decision to opt for Chinese patrol boats may be nothing more than him being inistent in exercising his country’s right to make its own choices. My East Timorese friend and colleague, Jose Belo, reported in an opinion piece today that Australia had earlier offered to patrol East Timor’s seas, as it does for other Pacific states, which Gusmao rejected. Any such arrangement would see any intelligence gathered off East Timor going first to the Australians, not Timor.

      Belo described the arrangement as a clumsy post-colonial effort to cede its naval/coastguard authority to Australia. I can understand Gusmao’s reluctance on this, given he feels he has already ceded the Timor Gap. But I doubt his two patrol boats will be enough to monitor or stop illegal activity. Either way, I am sure Australia will continue to monitor Timor’s seas by remote control.

      I am most of all curious how far Gusmao will push his rhetoric, and how the Australia will respond.

    • John W says:

      06:11pm | 15/06/10

      Thanks for replying, Paul.

      I wonder whether Gusmao’s decision to go for the Chinese patrol boats is just a deliberate show of independence, or if he actually recognises that we in Western countries have a sub-conscious cold-war hangover of mistrust towards China which, although I tend to think it’s largely unfounded these days, would make this a particularly jarring snub. They could have bought Malaysian patrol boats, for example, and most of the East Timorese sailors would already understand the writing on the controls, but it wouldn’t have had the same effect.
      So is this a wake-up call to show Australia that East Timor has other genuine options for its security and its gas?

      It was naive of me to assume in my earlier entry that gas and gas alone would be the only industry for East Timor, but I also don’t know what other options they have. With such a small land mass and a small population as well, with very low average education and limited electrical and telecommunications infrastructure, I doubt there are many companies lining up to set up shop in East Timor.

      I’m actually heading back up there with another vet for a couple of weeks next month. We want to see how the country’s looking on the ground these days and hopefully get a line on some worthwhile projects with which we can get involved. Perhaps then I’ll have a better understanding of what options East Timor has for industry development. I’ll also be interested to see the extent to which this recent rhetoric is reflected in individual Timorese people’s attitudes towards Australians, which were still quite positive the last time I was there.

    • Albie says:

      09:23am | 16/06/10

      Just one small point - Australia doesn’t still take “half the revenue from gas well within East Timor’s exclusive economic zone”. The Timor Sea Treaty, signed with East Timor in 2003, splits tax revenues 90:10 in favour of East Timor for operations in the Joint Petroleum Development Area (it used to be 50:50 under the old Treaty with Indonesia).

      The 50:50 split refers to the Woodside ‘Sunrise’ project only - 79.9% of the resource in that case is in Australian attributed waters so a 50:50 split is better than it could be…

      (references, DFAT website; wikipedia)

    • John W says:

      11:01am | 16/06/10

      As you say, the 90:10 split relates to the Joint Petroleum Development Area. These boundaries, marked out in the original Timor Gap negotiations between Australia and Indonesia, have been maintained in the 2002 treaty negotiated with East Timor. But the 90:10 split in favour of East Timor is generous only in the spin provided by Downer and carried on by the current government - the JPDA starts at the median line between East Timor and Australia and covers a big patch of seabed to the north, so according to the midpoint principle, recognised internationally for drawing economic boundaries between states, all of the JPDA belongs to East Timor and Australia is not so much giving 90% of the revenue to East Timor but rather taking 10% of the revenue from it.

      And revenue is only a small piece of the economic pie this kind of natural recource can offer to a country. The Bayu Undan Pipeline takes gas from the JPDA to the Darwin LNG plant. It’s a 500km pipeline. Given that Dili is about 700km from Darwin, you may start to recognise the holes in our claim for any of that gas. Having the pipeline to our shores and the plant in our country makes a massive difference. We can afford to give East Timor 90% of the revenue from the JPDA because the pipeline and plant mean the dollars still work out well and truly in our favour. It’s been estimated that in the 20 years from 2004, East Timor will collect about US$3.5 billion in revenue from the JPDA, while Australia will collect about US$400 million. But the gas pipeline and LNG plant has been estimated at generating about US$25 billion for Australia during the same period. Australia has flatly rejected requests by East Timor for a share of that money. Jose Ramos Horta wasn’t far off when he suggested it was like Bill Gates stealing from his cleaning lady.

    • Matt says:

      03:46pm | 15/06/10

      Its very true that we provide a lot of aid to East Timor and have done since 1999 when we were the major sponsor of their independence from Indonesia. I suppose when you consider only that, we have something to complain about.

      However, consider the point of view of the Timorese. We have quite literally stolen half the revenues from the only Timorese natural resource - LPG. We are unable to justify this claim so we simply get annoyed at the Timorese for pointing it out, and for exercising their sovereign right to make their own choices. If Timor is to have an independent future, then it will need every penny to create a modern, educated and stable society. By taking all the money, we are basically just ensureing that East Timor will be an aid dependent basket case forever.

      Australia negotiated to defer discussion of maritime disputes for 50 years, because the best estimates for the length of time the LPG fields will be active is 40 years. This was a disgraceful decision in Australian international relations and we are all shamed by it.

      Can you really blame them for being a little upset at us? Can you blame them for making angry speeches? For embarrassing us diplomatically? Its really all they have left.

    • Ronk says:

      05:51pm | 15/06/10

      So let me get this straight: East Timor has forgiven the Indonesians for their rape, pillage and genocide of their country lasting 27 years. But it hasn’t forgiven Australia for tacitly approving Indonesia’s actions for the first 24 of those years. (Even though this former policy of the Australian government was always opposed by a majority of Australians.)

      “what, by the way, would have become of the Timorese people at war’s end had they sided openly with Japan?”
      Probably like the Thais and the Burmese, Vietnamese and
      Javanese anti-European rebels, they would have been rewarded with an independent country after the war.

    • Kevin Rennie says:

      06:12pm | 15/06/10

      President Jose Ramos Horta has been criticising Australia as well over AusAid’s funding cut to Peace Dividend Trust. My take on Gusmao’s blunt remarks: Timor-Leste PM Sprays Friendly Fire at Aid Community http://tiny.cc/ugj9m

      Other bloggers at Th!nk3 have taken up the issues arising from China’s involvement in the developing world e.g How is China Changing the Way we Think about Aid to Africa? http://tiny.cc/otd5i

    • Michelle says:

      06:15pm | 15/06/10

      This is a very interesting piece about China moving into East Timor. What I still can’t fathom is how it’s in our interest to keep trading with China. Why are we financing the rise of this military monster? People bleat fatalistically about the rise of China as if there’s nothing we can do about it, but we can and should stop trading with it. Sure, it will hurt and it won’t be easy to disengage, but it has to be done. China simply cannot be trusted to become a superpower.

    • Ze da Labia says:

      09:27pm | 15/06/10

      Australia has a lot more to lose than Timor Leste in case the Chinese get cosy.
      Obviously Xanana is using it to get what he wants to his people. The options are there. Or Australia or China.
      Australia can still get it right in the next month or so.
      Lets hope common sense prevails.

    • TheRealDave says:

      10:24pm | 15/06/10

      Simple.

      Lets see how Xanana handles it the next time he pisses off his own people and they start shooting at him - again. Pull our Choco’s out and his own military can look after him.

      Then we can re-negotiate with his successor.

    • HelenH says:

      02:59am | 16/06/10

      There’s more to this than meets the eye, Timor-Leste specifically rejected taking part in the Australian Pacific Patrol Boat Project because it gives too much authority to the Australians to have military personel stationed in Timor.  They Chinese must have given them something better, even though, interestingly Australia was involved in giving them English training so the F-FDTL personel could be trained by the Chinese!  Its a complex business.
      Also, latest research on the Japanese in the second World War seems to indicate that Japan had no intention of landing in Portuguese Timor (as Portugal was neutral) until the Australians and Dutch landed there!  It is important to try and get the right messages from history.

    • Ronk says:

      09:58pm | 25/07/10

      Did your research also reveal the fact that the Netherlands along with the Dutch East Indies (now Indonesia) was also neutral. Didn’t stop Japan invading them. Or for that matter the USA and its possessions Hawaiii and the Phillippines which was neutral until the Japs attacked and invaded it without warning. What makes you think East Timor would have been any different? Portugal certainly could not and would not have stopped them.

    • Ken says:

      06:11am | 16/06/10

      AdamC, how on earth could East Timor be a part of China, any more than Tibet could be a part of Indonesia? And when East Timor was part of Indonesia, Horta was in exile, and Gusmao was in prison.

      Howard and Downer NEVER wanted an independent East Timor - Howard wrote to Habibie to say that it was in everybody’s interests that East Timor remained part of Indonesia,  while Downer was fighting off calls for peacekeepers.  So why should East Timor be grateful to Australia? If Suharto had remained in power, Australia would still be telling the East Timorese that they should remain under Indonesian rule! 

      No, China is not a liberal democracy, but nor was Suharto’s Indonesia. Boycotting and isolating China will not bring about change any more than it has in Burma. Condemning human rights abuses is one thing, demonising the Chinese is another. Sure, the Chinese are interested in East Timor’s oil and gas, just like Australia was in 1975!


      The biggest problem is not that East Timor is not getting enough revenue from oil and gas, it’s that it’s not spending what it already has!  The current government has increased the budget, but only spends a fraction of it.

      Zaf, it’s called Papua -  even the Indonesians don’t use the name Irian Jaya any more!

    • AdamC says:

      11:09am | 16/06/10

      Ken, my comment about Timor in China was hypothetical. Obviously.

      Re an independent East Timor, I imagine that future historians will look back on our current age, replete as it is with dysfunctional statelets like East Timor in total bewilderment. I am not surprised Australia was reluctant to support an independent East Timor - it was only Indonesia’s savage, bumbling repression that made an independent East Timor the best of a bad set of options.

      The rest of your comment looks like something of a random walk. But I would endorse the view that East Timor certainly doesn’t suffer from a lack of energy resources revenue.

    • Ken says:

      12:18pm | 17/06/10

      AdamC, I was responding to several people’s points - sorry if it came across as a ‘random walk’. I was responding to people demonising China and calling the East Timorese ‘ungrateful’.

      I don’t think our age is ‘replete with dysfunctional statelets’ - and if it is, it’s because many of them, like the Solomon Islands, were granted independence in the first place rather than encouraged to merge with their larger neighbours. (Although seeing how Bougainville has fared in Papua New Guinea, I don’t think the Solomons are that worse off.) Apart from Kosovo, not even the most passionate interventionists have advocated creating new states, for example, an independent Kurdistan in the north of Iraq.  Even Western Sahara, occupied by Morocco in 1975, and promised a referendum on independence back in 1991, is not going to get that any time soon.

      When was an independent East Timor the best in a set of bad options, and for whom? Not for Canberra, at least until 1999. Even in the referendum in East Timor, a fifth supported autonomy within Indonesia. 

      The problem is that Indonesia never thought through what it was going to do with East Timor, the way that India did with Goa, or China did with Macau - it integrated East Timor the only way it knew how, as just another province, without any autonomy or special status. By contrast, China forbade Portugal from leaving Macau in 1974 until conditions were ripe for a handover - which wasn’t until a quarter of a century later.

    • Uncle Buck says:

      12:05pm | 18/06/10

      I Take back what I said about Punch Bloggers!

    • Leste says:

      03:07pm | 24/06/10

      “Mr Ramos Horta has said Australian developmental aid is being misdirected.

      In a letter to the Australian ambassador on the eve of his visit, he claimed that the vast majority of donor money was spent not on East Timor but consultants, study missions, reports and recommendations.” The Australian

    • Kierra says:

      04:04pm | 14/06/11

      At last, someone comes up with the “right” ansewr!

 

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