Tiger Woods is one contradictory cat. There’s a human being inside that shell, a living, breathing, joke-cracking, thoughtful guy with all kinds of normal human feelings.

Fake hair good, fake personality bad. (Digitally altered image)

But there’s also a mercenary. A man who this week privately played golf with anonymous Chinese millionaires for huge sums of money. A golfing enthusiast who will rave about Australia’s world class golf courses, and how he wishes America had more courses like ours, then greedily pocket three million for the privilege of playing here.

But if you think Tiger is ruthless in the way he subjugates all dignity in his endless quest to accumulate money, that’s nothing on the way he suppresses his own emotions. At his Tuesday media call at The Lakes Golf Club, which The Punch attended, he didn’t once acknowledge the effect his marital break-up and sex scandal had on his golf game.

This isn’t to kick the guy yet again for his deeds. That’s been done. Enough people have taken that moral high ground. But yesterday, Tiger blamed everything bar the carbon tax for his failure to win a golf tournament since his private life unravelled like a cheap cocktail waitress’s pantyhose.

Tiger’s last win was in Melbourne two years ago, at the Australian Masters. The Punch was there too, and we were mightily impressed with both his golf and the man himself. Indeed, Tiger gave one of the all-time great answers in a press conference.

On the 16th hole, Tiger hit a brilliant long approach shot which nudged the hole. It was the shot of the tournament, and in the victory press conference, a journalist asked, “was that shot as good for you as it was for us, Tiger?”

Tiger cracked up. Even in the innocent days before his sex scandal, the question was hilarious. But when he finally stopped laughing, he gave a great answer. “Well, let’s just say I felt like smoking a cigarette afterwards,” he said. Touché.

That, right there, shows that Tiger Woods is one engaging dude. Yet he has mystifying chosen frequently to downplay his personality. Maybe that’s some kind of throwback to his colour. Growing up, he must have desperately wanted to prove that a black golfer could be not just better than all those white golfers, but just as marketable. Just as bland. Just as Middle America. Just as Corporate America.

And so, he got in the habit of letting his true personality run free only occasionally. For all that’s changed in his world, he’s still got the habit. At Tuesday’s press conference, he continually used the adjective “neat”. Neat? What is this, Leave it to Beaver? Dammit Tiger, talk like a man!

There’s another thing real men do, and that’s admit the obvious. They don’t shove stuff under the carpet. On Tuesday, Tiger spoke about the things which have derailed his game. The injuries, the split with his coach and the rest of it.

All of these things are real, as anyone who saw him win the 2008 US Open on one leg would know. And all of the above has no doubt contributed to his slump. But Tiger continues to fail to acknowledge the massive esteem blow of losing his wife, his full-time role as a father and above all, the biggie. His dignity.

On Tuesday he said this of his family life post-divorce. “Everything’s fantastic.  Everything is in a wonderful balance, at home with the kids, they’re doing great, so everything is in a very nice balance.”

For real, Tiger?

I, for one, still cheer for Tiger because I like the real man who occasionally shines through the veneer. I can’t wait for the man to win another tournament. But it’s not going to happen until he says something more like:

“You can’t believe what it’s like having your sex life exposed in every newspaper in the world. You just can’t imagine it. I feel sick just thinking about it. But you know what? I’m not perfect. No more pretendies. I’m gonna try and be good, but above all, I’m gonna be the real me because being the fake one only made the urge to live a double life all the stronger.”

Right now, Tiger Woods is still playing the role of Corporate Tiger,  Ambassador Tiger,  Everything’s OK Tiger. The minute he plays the role of Vulnerable Tiger, I reckon he’ll crack the code to winning again.

As for Ian Thorpe, what a yawn. Now more a lumbering dugong than a Thorpedo, he is at least two seconds off competitive times and the London countdown clock is ticking. Perhaps they could stop it again, as happened in March.

The big question with Ian Thorpe is why return at all? Tiger is back because he never chose to leave. But Thorpey seemed happy in retirement. Speaking to him two years ago, he seemed ridiculously content with his lot, and especially enthusiastic about the work of his foundation in indigenous communities, much of which he personally attended to.

Some say it’s for money. Whatever the reason, you can’t imagine he’ll get rich being an easybeat. The number of anonymous swimmers joining the “I beat Ian Thorpe” club is now rivalling the “I saw Todd Carney at the pub” club and the “I saw Brendan Fevola playing the pokies” Club.

When Ian Thorpe burst onto the scene in the late ’90s, at around the same time Tiger Woods began winning golf Majors, the mystique around him was harnessed to the hype surrounding our backyard Olympics. That was then. In many ways, Australia no longer cares.

That’s not because Thorpe has been a bad or dishonourable person, a la Tiger. But Thorpe presents a similarly airbrushed, over-polished persona. People just don’t really relate to him anymore.

We like our sports stars real in this country. And the funny thing is, the realer they are, the more successful they tend to be. To that end, Tiger and Thorpey would both do well to take a leaf out of Shane Warne’s book.

Warney might be looking increasingly plastic on the outside, but he has always maintained his fantastic gift of not faking any aspect of his personality. He is flawed, and doesn’t pretend otherwise.

Warne, too, returns to the competitive sporting fray this summer with the Melbourne Stars Big Bash Twenty20 team. The Stars could run last and Warne would still be hailed a winner for having a go. Tiger and Thorpey must be shaking their fists with jealousy.

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    • malohi says:

      05:37am | 10/11/11

      I am sure zillionaire Woods cares if Australia thinks he is real or not.
      Despite what channel 7 and roll-up commercials may have you think, Australia (or the rest of the world for that matter) does not care about swimming or Ian Thorpe and never did.

    • acotrel says:

      05:56am | 10/11/11

      I wonder when Casey Stoner will be a ‘has been’ ?

    • Blake says:

      12:52pm | 10/11/11

      Why would Casey Stoner be a has been? He’s 26 and just won his 2nd MotoGP World Championship…

    • Sickemrex says:

      05:44pm | 10/11/11

      acotrel, you say some weird shit. I suppose Doohan and Bayliss will one day be has-beens?

    • S.L says:

      06:24am | 10/11/11

      Tiger Woods never “retired”. Thorpey and Warnie did. I believe Thorpedo is getting more than $1 million in sponsorship cash wether he fails or not. Warnie is probably getting withdrawls from not being in Gossip Mags often enough?
      As for Tiger being mercenary? How much did tournement organisers have to grease Greg Normans palms to get him to come back home to play after he took off overseas?

    • Observer says:

      08:39am | 10/11/11

      That was Heugill.

    • Chocolate Jesus says:

      06:26am | 10/11/11

      Great article!

    • EM says:

      12:11pm | 10/11/11

      Really?  I got through about 4 paragraphs and then all I was hearing was Blah, Blah, Blah…

    • Mark G says:

      07:20am | 10/11/11

      “At his Tuesday media call at The Lakes Golf Club, which The Punch attended”

      ohhh are we the conceited ones. decided to just sneak that one in anthony? wink

    • Anthony Sharwood

      Anthony Sharwood says:

      07:45am | 10/11/11

      Us Punchies spend an awful lot of time staring at computer screens Mark, such is the nature of our job. When we do get out into the big wide world, I think it’s often worth sharing the fact that we were there.

      Disclosing that fact is not conceit. The opposite, actually. It’s about letting you know that we were up close and personal and able to see a guy’s body language and experience the whole “vibe” first hand.

      I would have thought most readers would welcome the knowledge that we had something more than a second hand view of an event down a TV tube - even if it was only a humble press conference. Because any story is always a better story when you’ve set foot outside the office.

      And now I am to set foot on a Sydney train. Good morning to you sir, and to all Punchies.

    • snigger says:

      10:14am | 10/11/11

      jealous mark?

    • C says:

      05:56pm | 10/11/11

      Touche Anthony! Something about tall poppies I’m a thinkin’

    • mick says:

      07:23am | 10/11/11

      A swimmer by the name of Kieren Perkins comes to mind here.  Washed up indeed.

    • SZF says:

      09:43am | 10/11/11

      How is Perkins “washed up”? He’s retired, and never made an ill-considered comeback like so many others. You can make the argument that he was in Hackett’s shadow for the last few years of his career, but his Olympics career was the same over 1,500m: 2 golds, 1 silver.

    • Lucas says:

      03:41pm | 10/11/11

      SZF - I imagine the reference was to the fact that right up until the final, everyone gave Kieran Perkins no chance, he was a has been. But afer barely qualifying he went home to win the gold from the outside lane, coming good at exactly the right time. Here’s hoping Thorpe can do the same.

    • john of solomon says:

      07:28am | 10/11/11

      As far as I am concerned Warne is nothing but a mug lair, how can you say that warne is “real”, he goes for the glitz and BS as much as any of the other so called celebrity sports stars, check out his makeup and botox.

    • marley says:

      07:42am | 10/11/11

      @john - he’s not pretending to be something he isn’t.  We all know about his hair transplants, his botox, etc etc.  He’s just a big goof.  Most people prefer goofs to hypocrites.

    • I hate pies...but I love Warney says:

      09:19am | 10/11/11

      Shane Warne is the greatest cricketer of all time (except of course the Don)...He’s the greatest Australian, nay, the greatest person of all time!

    • Rose says:

      09:23am | 10/11/11

      Marley, Warnie’s may be ‘real’, but he’s still a pain in the arse. There is nothing at all likeable about him as far as I can work out. To me he is the cashed up bogan pin up boy, way too much cash, way too little substance or class.
      Woods and Thorpe strike me as men who have been groomed since childhood to be the perfect sportsman/ commodity, it’s a shame but I think that they have probably forgotten who they are and have just been turned into these cardboard cut-outs.
      Tiger Woods should acknowledge that his personal turmoil has messed with his game, it’s not like it’s a secret, we all know it, but maybe by publicly acknowledging it himself he might finally be able to start to put it behind him.

    • marley says:

      09:41am | 10/11/11

      @Rose - I have a soft spot for Warnie, I admit.  I met him once, and had a five or ten minute chat with him - and he surprised the hell out of me.  I’d always thought he was a bit of a boor - instead, I found him a likeable, friendly, down-to earth sort of guy with a sense of humour.  He was even a bit self-effacing. Not at all what I expected him to be.

    • andrew says:

      10:04am | 10/11/11

      Warnie, inspite of what people want to think about him, has an amazing charisma.  I’ve seen women who had previously damned him for being a root rat, get won over by Warnie in a matter of minutes to the point where the girls are just about jumping him.

      Warnie is just a bloke, but a bloke who once was able to make a cricket ball do unnatural things.

      I dunno about him being the greatest cricketer of all time bar Don Bradman though.

    • I hate pies...but Warney gets better by the day says:

      10:26am | 10/11/11

      Andrew, the man single handedly revolutionised the game. He literally had batsmen beaten before they walked to the pitch. If it weren’t for the chucker he would be the highest wicket taker in the game. He is a legend of cricket…the greatest

    • Matthew says:

      10:47am | 10/11/11

      marley, i think you’ll find that almost all previous australian cricketers were one of us.  They were likeable to have a chat with and weren’t afraid to talk to you.

      That’s the biggest problem people have with today’s team.  They’re all thinking about themselves and have lost the idea of being one of “us”.  Mitchell Johnson is too busy getting tattoos and making sure he looks good for the yearly calendar.  Michael Clarke is too busy with his model GFs etc.  Warne, McGrath, Hayden all had families with non-famous partners that you could go up and say if you saw them on the street etc.

    • Max Redlands says:

      10:57am | 10/11/11

      Warnie is a dead set legend.

      Perhaps the greatest personality of the game,for Australia at least, since Keith Miller and with humility and good humour to boot.

      I wouldn’t go so far as to say he revolutionized the game but cricket owes him for the way he single-handedly resurrected the art of leg spin bowling to such devastating effect.

      Also,  he should have been captain of Australia after Waugh. His tactical abilities were far beyond those of Ponting but CA in its wisdom decided that a few errant text messages rendered him unfit for the postion. Fools.

    • Markus says:

      11:06am | 10/11/11

      There’s still a couple left Matthew but they tend to be either the guys who never really established a permament spot (Harris, Bollinger), or the older guys who have moved on or are about to, like Katich or Mike Hussey (I think the worst thing I’ve ever heard anyone say about Hussey is just that he is a bit of a nerd).

    • Horthy says:

      11:13am | 10/11/11

      “If it weren’t for the chucker he would be the highest wicket taker in the game”

      Let’s not bring Brett Lee into this, okay?

    • I hate pies...and chucking says:

      11:35am | 10/11/11

      Horthy, you’re not suggesting Brett’s elbow problems were the result of the extra strain on the joint caused by the straightening of the arm are you? I don’t think you can be ultra quick without being a chucker (Thommo aside) - Akhtar is a case in point.
      One thing’s for sure, the only time Warney was a chucker was after a few too many VB’s

    • Horthy says:

      11:59am | 10/11/11

      Have to agree with you IHP re Lee; I was just having a laugh.

      “the only time Warney was a chucker was after a few too many VB’s”

      Ha. He’s not allowed full carb beer anymore..

    • Nathan says:

      07:40am | 10/11/11

      i don’t get why people would be critical of tiger making money playing with wealthy people for a fee. Better than me being subjected to their stupid commercials. You also say you don’t want to keep going on about his private life and that he doesn’t mention it, why would he? The guy is trying to move on and if you had your way every interview he gave would about that topic i am over it.

      As far as Thorpe you don’t know why or what motivates him at all so why bother commenting. “People don’t relate to him anymore” when did they ever? The guy has been put on a pedestal from a young age and has always been “polished”

      Don’t mind your stuff but this is a struggle and full of contradictions

    • Observer says:

      08:00am | 10/11/11

      People are jealous of people who are successful.  Criticism is their only way to compensate for their own misgivings and lack of effort in life.

    • Dave says:

      07:48am | 10/11/11

      You forgot to mention Lleyton Hewitt!! Passed his used by date by a couple of years and still does not get it

    • Anthony Sharwood

      Anthony Sharwood says:

      08:50am | 10/11/11

      You’re right, though he’s not really in action at the moment. There is, however, a guy called Ricky Ponting who failed overnight in South Africa who I could have mentioned.

    • Scott K says:

      09:48am | 10/11/11

      @Dave…..... No mate, I dont think you get it. If you get over a million a year in endorsements, fashion mags, celebrity mags etc would you give up….. I doubt it. And what if the guy really enjoys his sport and misses the competition and mateship and wants to keep doing it? Or is he supposed to give up on life just because Dave and Anthony Sharwood says so. Gotta love an armchair critic boys, I think your being very harsh!

    • Ben C says:

      10:25am | 10/11/11

      Anthony, given Ponting’s recent form in ODI, should he change his focus and spend more time in that form of the game instead? It might prolong his international career.

    • Matthew says:

      10:57am | 10/11/11

      Ben C, he should retire.  He’s holding up the teams rebuilding phase and he’s past it and has been for a very very long time now.

    • Ben C says:

      11:26am | 10/11/11

      @ Matthew

      I agree with your assessment, he should’ve retired before the last Ashes series at the latest. Yet he just doesn’t know when to quit - he wants to play in the next Ashes.

    • loaded says:

      07:50am | 10/11/11

      what a load of speculative tripe.

    • Gun says:

      10:04am | 10/11/11

      I agree.  Most of what was mentioned was to do with the personal lives of the athletes in question.  While they are celebrities is also none of your business to speculate about it.  And having a dig at Tiger Woods not being a ‘real man’ because he doesn’t want to discuss it is quite low.

      At the end of the day these athletes, even though they may be past their prime or not currently winning are still much more of an athlete and put much more effort into their sport than the author of this article ever has.

    • Coop says:

      12:26pm | 10/11/11

      I agree as well.

      Typical Sharwood crap full of negativity about people who have achieved at top levels and still have the competitive will to stick their necks out.
      When was the last time you won soething Ant? Does that make you a washed up white arsehole who should STFU and lock yourself in a cupboard?

    • Markus says:

      07:51am | 10/11/11

      “Yet he has mystifying chosen frequently to downplay his personality. Maybe that’s some kind of throwback to his colour. “
      Or perhaps it’s a fairly standard defence mechanism against vulture journos who are looking for any excuse to put the boot in?

      “The minute he plays the role of Vulnerable Tiger, I reckon he’ll crack the code to winning again”
      Yes, because nothing builds confidence like having the entire world knowing and judging every one of your innermost thoughts and feelings…

    • iansand says:

      07:53am | 10/11/11

      I have a theory about modern sport.  Money has ruined it many ways, but one of them is the desire for sportsmen (there is not enough money in women’s sport yet) to hang on beyond their glory days because it would cost them too much to retire.  In the olden days sportsmen did not earn enough from playing to live.  At around their late 20s they acquired wives and families, or started thinking about the rest of their lives, so they retired at a time when they could parlay their sporting success into a career.  Rugby Union is the example par excellence.  The Rugby mafia in Sydney was awesome in what it delivered for retired players.

      Now, they know that they will never again earn what they earn as sportsmen so they hng on until they are pushed.

    • Andrew says:

      07:55am | 10/11/11

      Why be a celebrity of any kind, if not for the money? For the adulation? Pah! Those who praise you the highest will most likely be the first to call you “washed-up” as soon as you falter ... or as soon as their attention span expires.

    • Matthew says:

      11:40am | 10/11/11

      I think the problem is they think they’re celebrities.  Everyone just wants them to play their sport and shut up the rest of the time.

    • Direct says:

      03:06pm | 10/11/11

      Tiger Woods is the perfect example of someone trying to shut up. But as a sportsman with assorted sponsorship deals, what are you supposed to do when the vultures in the media descend and stick a microphone in your face? You ride it out, play nice and hope to god they don’t try and manufacture another outrage.

      I’m sure if the media didn’t stick a microphone in his face all the time, we wouldn’t hear anything out of him.

    • archeress says:

      07:56am | 10/11/11

      You cant unravel pantyhose but you can get a hole in one. jus sayin.

    • John Dorian says:

      08:08am | 10/11/11

      Anthony, I am just waiting for you to eat your words when Thorpe wins something at the Olympics next year.

    • bananabender says:

      09:16am | 10/11/11

      He may not even make the Australian Olympic team. With only nine months to go his chances of winning a medal are very low.

    • VVS says:

      09:46am | 10/11/11

      Certificate of attendance does not count…

    • AdamC says:

      10:27am | 10/11/11

      Me, I am in two minds. Of course, I wish him the best, but I also wonder what he’s doing this for. A failure to qualify for London would be a horribly unfortunate end to an otherwise brilliant career. (Which, up to now, had been concluded at the right time.)

    • DWGW says:

      11:56am | 10/11/11

      He’s already won. He doesn’t have to prove anything. Let’s just admire Ian for the great person he is, and the fact that he’s got himself back into terrific shape, which must be good for his future life and health.

    • Shooter says:

      08:09am | 10/11/11

      If someone wants to pay Tiger millions to play golf with them why not. Sounds like sour grapes

    • Jesse says:

      08:12am | 10/11/11

      I thought your article was spot on mate. Especially about not being able to relate to Thorpey. He did awesome things for this country - the guy was a hero - but you do always get the feeling that you’re getting a front during interviews, not the real guy. It’s like speaking to a politician.
      As for Tiger, I’m fine with him trying to make money wherever he can. The odd appearance without having to be paid would be nice, but he doesn’t have to. However, the guy does really should stop giving prepared answers that never address the question and just act like a human being.
      My thoughts anyway.

    • marley says:

      08:17am | 10/11/11

      All this boils down to:  Tiger needs to get his mojo back, Thorpe will never get his mojo back (and no one cares) and Warnie never lost his mojo.

    • jay-ded says:

      09:21am | 10/11/11

      Well summed up marley.  Works for me.

    • Walt of tas says:

      08:27am | 10/11/11

      Talk about sour grapes. Never heard a wrong word when greg norman made millions, but then again he’s an aussie eh. get off your socilist backside and do the same.

    • Tim says:

      08:31am | 10/11/11

      Are you smoking crack again Anthony?

      Thorpey will make a go of his return or retire again with a few extra million in the bank for having a bit of fun. If he fails I don’t think it hurts his reputation as he’s been out of the pool for such a long time.

      Warney is still good enough to play, particularly in 20/20 where he doesn’t have to do much and his tactical nous and experience should prove extremely valuable.

      Tiger has never retired and is still fairly young for a golfer, he’s probably got another 10 years left in him if his body doesn’t break down.
      He earns plenty of money doing corporate events. So?
      As for the stuff about opening up to journalists, puhhleeasse.
      The moment he plays Vunerable Tiger will be the end of his career. He plays on confidence and ego, allowing journalists to further dissect his life would only make things worse.

    • Matthew says:

      12:04pm | 10/11/11

      The funny thing is the reason most people get out in their late 30s/40s is because they can’t keep up physically but Warne’s in better shape then he was in his entire career.

      Thorpey has already ruined his career.  Everyone knows he’s a sell out now and he’ll be forever brought up when someone else comes out of retirement.

      And yes, if Tiger lets the media in they’ll come flooding through the doors and never leave.  It’s not in his best interest to let them in.

    • Rob says:

      08:40am | 10/11/11

      Sharwood- Pathetic

    • Not Sharwood says:

      09:12am | 10/11/11

      Rob-Pathetic

    • VVS says:

      01:14pm | 10/11/11

      Hang on, what is the answer?

      Sharwood - Pathetic = ????

      Don’t leave us on a cliffhanger like that!!!

    • bananabender says:

      09:04am | 10/11/11

      I greatly doubt that Thorpe quit swimming voluntarily. He was being investigated by FINA for doping at the time. By retiring he ended any further investigations.

    • Tim says:

      09:23am | 10/11/11

      You do realise that they keep the samples?
      If he was guilty of doping then they would have busted him afterwards.

    • bananabender says:

      02:38pm | 10/11/11

      The anti-doping rules are only designed to fool the public into thinking sport is drug-free. They are not designed to catch the 80-90% of elite athletes who regularly use performance enhancing drugs.

      Once an athlete retires all anti-doping investigations immediately cease.  They can begin competing gain after five years with a clean sheet.

    • Andrew says:

      08:28pm | 10/11/11

      BS Bananabender, next thing you’ll be trying to tell everyone that Thorpe is Gay

    • Punters Pal says:

      09:12am | 10/11/11

      Tiger will be fine. Has battled injuries and addiction problems. Once he gets his health and form back, he will be fine.

      Warnie is still probably the best spinner in Australia. He looks fitter when he made his test debut. 20-20 hit and giggle will fit him well, only four over to bowl and boss youngsters around.

      Thorpie, meanwhile - not sure why he came back. Probably he missed adulation of the masses and big bags of cash which came with it. I doubt he will ever swim as fast as he did 4 years ago.

    • Dieter Moeckel says:

      09:34am | 10/11/11

      Whats the difference between Tiger’s night life and Parish Hilton’s chastity? _ Bugger all they are both entertainers whose gossip turns people on.
      Gossip - who did what to whom, how and when - is what turns most people on. Most of our entertainment is made up by it. And everyone cares…
      But let’s not confuse sport - doing it - with entertainment - presenting it. Pro games players play to entertain not to engage in sport. Sport is long gone like gladiators in the Roman arena. So gossip about entertainers and gladiators is what turns people on - so be it. Amen to that.

    • Angry God of Townsville says:

      09:52am | 10/11/11

      I think journo’s secretly love it when the hero’s (term used loosely and not actually true) have gone past their peak. All the years of having to write about the success of these elite players of which ever sport in which they excel must grate hard of the journo’s egos quite a bit.

      They then exact their revenge through columns highlighting the failings (of which, most of their current colleagues, if not themselves have committed similar sins)  of these servants to the alter of public adoration. The joy in a failed marriage or dalliance with illegal substances that can be used to clip the wings of any high flyer is both mana from heaven and a willing blade to which the journalist returns to fillet the corpse with.

      Journo’s never publish the failings of other journo’s (unless they can do a pile on job, knowing of the safety in numbers) because they know that the moment one tells all, all the skeletons shall be set loose. I look forward to the day that the journalist fraternity begins to feed upon its own corpse. The inside world deserves to be revealed. To expose those who feed and create opinions (especially if some of the end of year ABC staff party gossip can be believed) would bring a smile to many a sportsman and politicians face.

    • Observer says:

      10:28am | 10/11/11

      Failed sportsmen become sports journalists.

    • Outraged says:

      01:20pm | 10/11/11

      Amen!

      Journalists are right up there with Politicians and Lawyers on “Not trustworthy” scale of public opinion.

      All the people I know who entered journalism were creepy loners who didn’t want people asking questions about their bizarre personal lives…so they becamse journalists so only THEY could ask the questions of others. The stats are out there as well that Journalists have the highest levels of drug and alcohol abuse in any industry…

    • Pete says:

      10:33am | 10/11/11

      Tiger Woods is only interesting to those slightly overweight bogan boors with cash who play golf. Ordinary people, and golfers, have no interest in the guy. He’s wonderbread, except not white. Lance Armstrong is another one of these people: they talk about their success in the 3rd person: aaarrrrgh.

    • Peter J says:

      11:48am | 10/11/11

      So ... let me get thisright…Warney is the real deal because he doesn’t pretend not to be fake??

      Err… great logic… I think.

    • Farken says:

      11:51am | 10/11/11

      1 still playing but in a slump and 2 chumps try’n to come back

    • Michael says:

      12:03pm | 10/11/11

      Why quit when people are stupid enough to pay the cost of admission to see these chumps strut their stuff?
      Damn, if I was one of their manager’s I’d be telling them to keep going until retirement - and why stop there???
      The ONLY way these geriatrics will give it up is when people stop watching them.

    • Mark says:

      12:03pm | 10/11/11

      It is funny that just a few weeks after people were quoting great life lessons from Steve Jobs about determination, about never giving up, about striving in the face of adversity because we only get one life, here is Anthony Sharwood saying “Give up, if you aren’t doing well at the start, then give up and go away.”

      Surely in 2011 we are all smart enough about sport and legacies to know that no one cares if a sports legend makes a comeback and fails, it doesn’t tarnish their legacy one bit. Remember Ali’s failed comeback? No? Remember Jordan’s? Do you care, or do you remember his six championships? Thorpe can’t diminish his legacy, it is safe, he can only enhance it.

      Thorpe is on a longer term plan, a journey that wasn’t about Singapore or Beijing. It may not even be finally about London. And guess what, he gets to make the decision about whether he will test himself and whether he still has the stuff that will get him on a podium. He might yet succeed, as might Tiger. He doesn’t need to justify his reason to you Anthony, he gets to take this path on his life because he feels like doing it. That is enough.

      The funniest rubbish being sprouted by journalists is the line that Thorpe may somehow keep someone younger off the team for London. Um ... they all compete side by side to qualify people, if Thorpe makes it, it means he was ... gosh ... I hope you are sitting down cause here comes the truth ... FASTER. It means the young swimmer was ... wait for it ... hold your breath ... NOT UP TO IT. Making an Olympic team is something earned, not given.

      So feel free to take potshots from your laptop Anthony, feel free to criticise those that dare to give success another shot, your cynicism doesn’t really matter to those who are trying to live their lives in a way that is a little less ordinary.

    • glenm says:

      12:58pm | 10/11/11

      It might be time for Anthony to retire,  Nothing even remotely world class about it.

    • Chrissi says:

      02:49pm | 10/11/11

      Totally agree with you Mark - great comment!!

    • Stiffy says:

      12:40pm | 10/11/11

      Anthony, never knock a true champion - they will eventually make you eat your words every time.

    • Kylie says:

      12:46pm | 10/11/11

      Talk about tall poppy syndrome!! Why are people always jealous of another persons success or decisions in life? At least Ian Thorpe & Shane Warne (who I have to say, I dislike & have little respect for as a person) are having a go. Too many people criticise others when they would never ever attempt something they may fail at. You are the has beens!

    • Debbie says:

      12:59pm | 10/11/11

      Always perplexed by why sportsmen ( and women) don;t want to quit at the top of their game, but try and come back and then end up being a has been who can’t get back to the top. I could give a hundred examples in all sorts of sports. People then remember them as a has been wannabe, rather than a top sportsman who quit at the top and was never beaten. It has to be for the money, there simply isn’t any other logical explanation. Look at Micahel Schumacher in Formula 1, he was just about unbeatable, now hes back and is not winning a thing and is just another guy driving a car.

    • PJ says:

      02:18pm | 10/11/11

      No mention of John farnham’s constant un-retiring. uh, wait, sports only….

    • Mat says:

      02:23pm | 10/11/11

      I’m not sure you admonishing him to ‘talk like a man’ is consistent with the suggesting that he start his mea culpa with ‘No more pretendies’....

    • Anthony Sharwood

      Anthony Sharwood says:

      03:07pm | 10/11/11

      This comment wins. Pins me to the corkboard like a butterfly.

    • Chrissi says:

      02:31pm | 10/11/11

      Tiger is a loser, but totally disagree with you in relation to Thorpey.  It is exactly people like you who are an embarrassment to Australia. Tall poppy syndrome. You will put a fellow Aussie down because he is actually good at something, and willing to ‘have a go’?!  Do you know what commitment it takes to be a champion swimmer? Up and down the black line for hours and hours. It is a very lonely sport and to even make the commitment to attempt a comeback is just remarkable enough. He is an absolute legend, a fantastic ambassador for Australia, and there is no reason every single Australian shouldn’t be 100% behind him. Our mens swimming team has been an absolute disgrace over the last few years both in and out of the pool, so not only does he give us ‘hope’ in the pool, however he will bring so much to the team with his experience, being there as a mentor and also as a decent person, someone to look up to for the young swimmers who are continually making the headlines for all of the wrong reasons these days.  And you obviously know nothing about swimming, as he was only within .60 of a second to making the 100m freestyle final, an event that he doesn’t usually specialise in anyway. Not to mention that these events were in a 25m pool, when he has said he is not a good turner, and with his long stroke he is much better off in a 50m pool with less turns. And whatever happens, win or lose, I will admire him forever for being an incredible swimmer, an amazing person, the work he has done with his aboriginal charities and for saying, you know what - yes, I have been happy in retirement, but I’m going to shake things up a bit, and strive for my goal of competing in the London Olympics. Most of us just ‘say’ we want to do things, Thorpey actually did it, and for that, he is and always will be, a legend and my hero.

    • Freddie says:

      03:17pm | 10/11/11

      Sorry Chrissi, he will never look in your direction - too busy looking at the likes of bob Brown to see you.

    • julian thomas says:

      02:56pm | 10/11/11

      2 of 3 of these man pictured have sex with women , any guesses?

    • magpie says:

      03:17pm | 10/11/11

      As a former swimmer, I cannot imagine anybody returning to the sport after any extended break for money or attention. Swimming is hard, hard, hard work when you are at peak physical condition. To go from where he was to where he is now could not possibly be about money or adulation - it is just too painful, too time consuming, too hard, too high a risk of embarrassment.  Going to university, getting a degree and getting a good job (all which I have done subsequent to my swimming career ending) is much easier physically and emotionally, especially when you have the profile of Ian Thorpe, who can rely on being sought-after for employment for the rest of his life.  I believe he missed swimming for what it is, and wanted a change to his lifestyle and health.  His times at these meets would smash any Masters competition, so the only other place to go for somebody wanting to compete in swimming is the elite level.  Should he not make an effort to perform well, because he used to be retired?  I don’t care either way about his performances, whether he’s retired or not, whether he makes teams or not, whether he’s getting paid to do it.  But, to say he returned only for money and attention is, I believe, completely wrong.

    • Skye says:

      03:26pm | 10/11/11

      How does being a total sleaze and cheating on your wife make you ‘real’, because that is something Warney and Woods have in common….

      And ‘Real men state the obivous and don’t sweep things under the carpet’?? One what planet do these men exist because I know a few women who would like to visit some day….......

    • brad cooper says:

      03:40pm | 10/11/11

      ‘Tiger cracked up. Even in the innocent days before his sex scandal…’???
      Are you sure? (This is like saying ‘Hitler cracked up. Even in the innocent days before his genocide was discovered.’)

      Better writing, please.

    • "Tiger Black" says:

      04:39pm | 10/11/11

      Tiger Woods got a Wests Tigers footy jumper presented to him recently.
      Will Tiger Woods play for Wests Tigers next season?
      Will Charlie Sheen Coach Wests Tigers next season?

    • brad cooper says:

      04:59pm | 10/11/11

      Those corporations about to (allegedly) open their wallets for Ian Thorpe might be living in a kind of image perception bubble….from a time when someone quoted somebody who recalled a marketing survey about his million-popsicle-selling power.

      Current public perception has him as a tolerably self obsessed ‘gen-whatever’ with a penchant for saying penchant…and highly choreographed accessibility. Most wish him well but worry if he is actually getting on with his life… though maybe empathy sells too.
      Hitching his star to former sacked/disagraced AIS coach Gennadi Touretsky (two air rage incidents - one with jail time - plus the stolen safe incident) must have given his management a headache or two. 
      Or maybe we’re over the days of needing sportsmen to be perfect. (You’re going to grow up at least a little flawed believing the mandatory ‘10,000 hours’ of training required just to beat some one is worthwhile).

    • Utopia Boy says:

      05:00pm | 10/11/11

      Maybe Tiger, quite rightly IMHO, doesn’t think his personal life is any of our business.
      His results over the last couple of years show he is human, and is struggling with issues in his personal life. Yet we all cringed and turned away when he apologised for his infidelity via a carefully scripted statement.

      How much of the bloke do you want?

      He even went into therapy for sex addiction, which must be a most humiliating thing to admit, given the predatory nature of today’s media. I bet he nearly fell over when his PR people told him some rehab would be a good idea. But it keeps the press interested. The Oprah and Dr. Phil crowd would have been nodding wisely in their tracky daks while stuffing another cream filled doughnut and diet coke down their pie holes.

      Tiger must know his sport is irrelevant. He must know what he does for a living is far removed from what any normal person would consider interesting. He must know he’s a once in a generation freak. He must know he’s the luckiest sonofabitch on the planet. He must know, like you and I, that his performance on the golf course is related to his personal life.

      Imagine how he’s trying to deal with it.
      Imagine looking at yourself in the mirror and thinking “I can’t do my job because I got busted having sex with a waitress.” Imagine what that does to your psyche.

      He’s done nothing to embarrass himself since splitting with his wife. Nothing like Fevola, Johns & Johns, Cousins etc; i.e. he hasn’t found it necessary to air his dirty, personal laundry to the world for a fee (or to save their job).

      He’s more dignified than any other sportsman in history.

    • sunny says:

      06:18pm | 10/11/11

      What happens in sex addiction therapy? Did they send in 6 hot waitresses every day for the first week, then 5 every day of second week, then after 6 weeks he’s down to rooting one hot waitress a day with maybe an extra head job before bed? After 12 weeks he’s content with a kiss on the forehead and a cup of tea - but has developed a weird tick.

      Or maybe they monitor him around-the clock and smack him in the back of the head with a ping pong bat every time he gets a Woodrow Wilson?

      .. and they give him back his wrist watch and “Certified Non Sex Addict” certificate as he walks out the door.

    • Utopia Boy says:

      08:02am | 11/11/11

      More than likely, in Tiger’s case, his therapy would have consisted of a healthy dose of golf. Daily.

    • Dreaded R says:

      11:11am | 11/11/11

      Calling Thorpy and Warny washed up is fine.

      But leave Tiger alone, you shouldn’t call him this because that would be something beginning with the dreaded r word.

 

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