Thousands of Aussies today are likely to feel peeved that Mark Webber’s shot at F1 glory was stolen by the anointed one - Red Bull teammate Sebastian Vettel.

Sebastian Vettel, the F1 winner. Photo: AFP.

As Red Bull’s designated No. 1 driver, Vettel had all the backing in the world to make the Formula One title his own.

Vettel, at 23, is the youngest driver to win an F1 championship after defeating the class field in the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix overnight.

His win is viewed as political, for those convinced that Red Bull’s bosses wanted their “golden boy” to claim the prestigious title.

It’s political when you have a promising driver being thrust into F1’s centre stage and given one of the best engines ever made for the track.

As No. 2 driver, Webber was clearly frustrated he wasn’t Red Bull’s favourite.

His anger drove him to stunning victories this year - the most memorable in Silverstone when after his win he said: “Not bad for a No. 2 driver”.
Webber was seething for most of the year, and fuelled with anger, he won four races in Spain, Monaco, Britain and Hungary.

Webber finished third in the drivers’ championship, behind Vettel and Ferrari’s Fernando Alonso.

Webber has battled like no other, inching his way to the top with the odds stacked against him. Webber’s setbacks - and good times - have shaped his character over years of hard yakka.

If anyone deserved the F1 world championship, it was Webber - the down-to-earth guy from Queanbeyan.

The resilient Aussie has clocked up the hard yards, and reached the pinnacle of elite motor racing.

Webber is determined, focused and competitive with a passion so intense that he appeared at loggerheads with his rival, Vettel, for months.

The politics of F1 has meant the anointed drivers have a clear advantage – mechanically and tactically it’s not an equal playing field – and the drivers must feel some resentment.

Taking nothing away from Vettel’s obvious talent and skill, the drivers with the superior gear and the superiors behind them are more likely to reap rewards.

A driver of Webber’s calibre should be given every chance to reach his potential. Webber deserves an environment that allows him to discover his threshold in Formula One.

Will Webber stick with Red Bull or will another team give him his dream shot? Webber is a fighter and will bounce back, although his disappointment of finishing third is shattering.

Webber’s hunger will dictate his future path.

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    • T.Chong says:

      07:39am | 15/11/10

      Was Webber robbed ? Dont know, but what I do know , he wasnt robbed as much as the Kangaroos were by a 2 meter plus forward pass / throw ( as it didnt appear to be directed at anyone)  by the Kiwis, with the resulting try.
      Awful , sub standard reffing. An embarrasment to the game.

    • G says:

      08:25am | 15/11/10

      Welcome to an All Black fan’s reality… Forward passes to win games are never fun, especially when you’re on the end of the loss.

      As a Kiwi, I’ll just take this one with a smile.

    • Budz says:

      11:03am | 15/11/10

      Oh Chong, did you forget the Aussies first try where Morris ran into touch but the try was still given?

    • Justan Oz says:

      04:13pm | 15/11/10

      What has a strange game that very few Aust.have any thing to do with,got to do with F1 ? Webber was not good enough and that is the end of it!

    • bigmuzz says:

      10:45pm | 16/11/10

      2 metres? try 10 metres!

      disgraceful refereeing…....

      The real score from the 4 Nation final: Tony Archer 18…. Australia 6…. New Zealand 4. raspberry

    • iansand says:

      07:40am | 15/11/10

      Boo hoo.

      He could go to another team, but then he would not have the car and he would be somewhere in the middle of the pack.  Tough choice, but that’s how F1 works.

    • BMJ says:

      07:43am | 15/11/10

      Webber works for Red Bull Racing. They don’t work for him. They don’t work for Australia. This is international motorsport with big money involved and no one cares if Webber is a “down to earth guy from Queanbeyan”.

    • Martin G says:

      07:43am | 15/11/10

      There is no way Vettel is 6-8 tenths better than Webber per lap.

      There is something very dodgy about this. Vettel is a good driver, but not THAT good. I think RBR seriously didn’t want Webber anywhere near that championship.

      Horner should just spare everyone the bulls*** and tell everyone that RBR has been favouring Vettel all season. It’s F1’s worst-kept secret and damages his credibility.

      But at least Alonso didn’t win smile

    • BMJ says:

      07:57am | 15/11/10

      Webber bottled it by spinning out in Korea out of nowhere.

      Webber cracked. The End.

    • Steve_of_Cornubia says:

      09:07am | 15/11/10

      @Martin G

      Bullcrap. Yes, Vettel was favoured, but do you seriously think ANY company would hobble one of their own cars? Get real. RBR would have given Webber everything they could (not least because just putting him out there costs millions of dollars per race). They would have liked to have finished 1-2. Vettel first, of course!

    • DocBud says:

      09:59am | 15/11/10

      The most important thing to RBR was winning the championship, they might well have preferred Vettel but there is no way they would nobble their chances of achieving the primary goal by standing in Webber’s way. They’d hardly want to see Vettel retire and then watch Webber limp home to second in the championship because they’d given him a sub-optimum car.

      Some Australians have a problem losing graciously, they should take a leaf out of Robbie Deans’ book who gave England the credit for their magnificent thumping of the Wallabies.

    • Martin G says:

      12:08pm | 15/11/10

      @Steve_of_Cornubia, did you forget Silverstone already? Who’s to say they didn’t make any further modifications to Vettel’s car without Webber knowing? It does sound very ‘conspiracy’ but where there’s smoke…

      @DocBud, this has nothing to do with losing graciously, Vettel is a good driver but Webber should have received the full backing of the team while he was in the Championship Lead like Alonso had at Ferrari. If the shoe was on the other foot (Vettel) I’m sure that would have been the case. Well driven Vettel but that doesn’t mean the circumstances surrounding his victory are immune to questioning.

    • Jessica says:

      11:47pm | 15/11/10

      RBR play to win and they were always going to back the driver that would get them over the line. This is just business.

    • Yogi says:

      11:58pm | 15/11/10

      @Martin G- you reckon that ” Webber should have received the full backing of the team while he was in the Championship Lead” and also mention the injustices at Silverstone. Yet Webber wasnt leading the championship in Silverstone. He wasnt even in front of Vettel!
      Yet in Hungary when Webber was leading the champioship, he received the better strategy which allowed him to do a long first stint and open a huge gap for a pit stop and win the race.
      RBR were favouring the driver that had the best chance of winning. At some points in the season that was Vettel, others it was Webber.

    • darren says:

      07:47am | 15/11/10

      and thousands more wonder why we waste so many resources on such a pointless exercise

    • Steve Smith says:

      09:16am | 15/11/10

      and millions more watch every week

    • Nathman says:

      09:59am | 15/11/10

      I’ve been an F1 fan since I was 8, I’ve been to Monaco and Silverstone and if I have learned anything it is this;

      F1 isn’t about making a point, it’s about making money. It’s the politics and the money that keeps F1 going and indeed, makes the entire world go round. Love? Forget it. Who needs love when you have money and power.

      And every other Sunday there’s a ‘race’ thrown in.

    • PatC says:

      09:59am | 15/11/10

      @darren

      It’s only pointless to the minority that see absolutely nothing in it… but then again it’s usually the minority that is the most vocal.

    • Jason says:

      11:24am | 15/11/10

      Pointless to you maybe Darren…...many advancements in safety and engineering in our motor cars originated in Formula One.

    • Adrian says:

      11:56am | 15/11/10

      Jason wins.

      All sport could be considered pointless by those who don’t enjoy it. But if we’re looking at positive outcomes, then all sports generate income and boost the economy of the cities and countries that host it, as well as the safety, engineering and performance advancements that come from teams competing against each other.

      To the point of the article, I believe Vettel is a better driver than Webber, but I hope that Webber’s heart will get him over the line next year.

    • Macca says:

      08:00am | 15/11/10

      Red Bull made the right choice backing Vettel. His performance yesterday (well Qualifying mostly) showed that he is the quicker driver of the two.

      Webber had a wonderful season, and almost certainly acheived more than would have been predicted at the beggining.

    • ibast says:

      08:56am | 15/11/10

      Looking at the entire season there has only been a couple of occasions where Vettel was quicker.  Webber’s lack luster performance in qualifying does make you wonder whether his car’s performance was “tweaked”.

      Despite this I think BMJ (above) is right.  Webber’s mistake in Korea cost him the championship.

    • maccca says:

      09:39am | 15/11/10

      @ibast, 11 poles would suggest otherwise

    • Nuggz says:

      11:24pm | 15/11/10

      macca, but only 5 wins… a lack of conversion there, like bits kicking ability, plenty of chances not enough points

    • MarK says:

      08:34am | 15/11/10

      I went to the beach on the weelkend.

      It was great.

      Nice 1 metre swell. Got the cobwebs ironed out on the board..

      Summer will be good.

    • T.Chong says:

      08:54am | 15/11/10

      MarK , we (family , and self ) have just spent 3 deeliteful weeks in yur part of the world - South West Rox. I’m sure you know it.
      The “seaside”, or “beach “holiday is still a big fave with us yokels from the central west / tablelands.
      Nice waves, nice beaches,  ( Smokey Cape, - paradise) and whats more, the local populous of the MNC seem reasonably happy with Oakshott, if ABC 684 can be believed.

    • MarK says:

      09:41am | 15/11/10

      Good on you TC

      South West Rocks is awesome mate. I go up there for “weekends away”. And you are right Smokey Cape is great as well, hope you went to the gaol and the lighthouse while you were there.

      Opinions form the ABC and others in the community vary vis Robbie but lets not let that spoil a nice holiday.

      Glad you liked it up here. I love it - and The Rocks is one of the nicer spots to be sure

    • Jaz says:

      02:46pm | 15/11/10

      Keep your comments about the topic of the blog rofl. No one really cares what you did or where you went.

    • fairsfair says:

      03:12pm | 15/11/10

      T.Chong - I was wondering where you were! Welcome back - you were missed. Hope you are rested and relaxed smile

    • Dan says:

      08:58am | 15/11/10

      Webber has only Webber to blame for not winning the championship. He had every opportunity, but blew it at crucial times - crashing in Korea and qualifying only fifth yesterday. Vettel might be a prat, but he’s a very good driver and will win more world championships. I suspect Webber’s opportunity has passed. BTW Darren, Formula One is not pointless. Without it we might not have had many of the safety features we now take for granted on our cars; disc brakes, traction control, stability control, crumple zones, etc etc.

    • Eskimo says:

      09:18am | 15/11/10

      Webber would be World Champion if he had not spun out in Korea. His own error cost him the title.

    • Matt says:

      09:54am | 15/11/10

      Korea wasn’t the end, All 3 (Alonso, Vettel, Webber) had a chance to win it last night. Absolutely everything went right for Seb, and wrong for the others… I still cant believe Ferrari pitted Alonso, when all he needed to do was follow Button around all afternoon. Ferrari cost themselves the WDC right there. Dont know what the hell Webber was doing, definantly didnt look like a man hungry for the WDC. What I did like was McLaren’s (team and drivers) never say die, lets just go for the win no matter what attitude. I used to hate Hamo, but man this year he grown on me.

    • Expat says:

      09:19am | 15/11/10

      Cringe. That was embarrassing just to read. Grow up Australia.

    • Budz says:

      11:08am | 15/11/10

      It certainly was. As much as I was going for Webber, he just wasn’t good enough, I think it’s time Australian sports fans get used to not being the best. Especially with the league and union teams losing, the cricket team about to lose the ashes again, welcome to the world of most other sports fans around the world!

    • Lails says:

      12:54pm | 15/11/10

      I totally agree! I am still cringing! Why do we feel the need to make excuses when our sports people “fail”. Webber just wasn’t good enough. Simple as that!

    • fairsfair says:

      03:21pm | 15/11/10

      I am jumping on this bandwagon too. Far out! It is like Webber himself wrote it and it actually made me think he was a tool (which he may very well be) but fair go - this article IS embarassing.

      Couple this with his major Sixty Minutes faux pas and I think Webber is a narcissistic spoilt tosser. Media - look what you are doing to someone who is probably a nice person!

      Why not make this story about him almost winning - that is a feat in itself and something Aussie’s should be proud of.

    • John says:

      09:27am | 15/11/10

      I would have liked Webber to win too, but I definitely wouldn’t say he deserved it more than Vettel. There’s a reason Vettel’s the Red Bull number one, despite all of Webber’s years with the team.

      As a test driver for BMW in 2007, Vettel came in to replace Kubica after a massive crash in Canada and in his first Grand Prix qualified and placed in the top ten. Later that year he picked up a job with Red Bull Toro Rosso after they dumped their useless American driver Scott Speed and by the end of the season had picked up a fourth-place race finish - Toro Rosso’s best ever result.
      In 2008, still with Toro Rosso, Vettel scored eighth overall in the driver’s championship - higher than Webber at 11th - and in 2009, after moving to the main Red Bull team, Vettel gave Red Bull its first ever P1 finish with an outstanding drive in the wet in China. He went on to place second in the drivers’ championship ahead of Mark Webber at fourth.

      Looking at the figures, how could Vettel not be Red Bull’s number one coming into 2010? It’s not as though the team boss favoured him for no reason - the statistics show he’s clearly the better driver of the two. I like Mark Webber, he seems like a great bloke, but Vettel is better on the track and he deserves this championship and he definitely deserves to be Red Bull’s number one driver.

    • Nathman says:

      10:03am | 15/11/10

      Hmm, I think you’re forgetting something - all those quali sessions where Webber was only a couple of tenths behind him. Given that Webber is 6’2” and Seb is (I don’t really know) about 5’7” or something I can’t help but think Webber did a better job of driving in most of those sessions, but his size and hence extra wieght hobbled him.

      Better luck next year Mark.

    • John says:

      12:31pm | 15/11/10

      Let me rephrase - Vettel’s the faster driver. Whether it’s a size/weight issue, a skill issue, a luck issue, or something else, if one of your drivers is consistently faster than the other, then he’s your number one.

    • Jotun says:

      09:39am | 15/11/10

      Julie, they don’t hand out ribbons in F1 for trying hard.

      They award championships to the best driver during the season - which in 2010 was Sebastien Vettel. Webber didn’t win because he bottled it in Korea. The end.

    • Jenni says:

      10:16am | 15/11/10

      I have been a long-time fan of Webber, following him years before it was “fashionable” to be seen to be supporting the local guy (ie - once he started actually winning wink BUT at the end of the day, the person who “deserves” to win the championship is the driver who shows the most consistent form, and this is shown by points on the board. It’s simple mathematics.

      It’s not enough to have a couple of good races, or to qualify well time and again but then blow it in the race, and the fact that Webber has been striving for a long time and been unfortunate in the past with sub-par vehicles makes him no more “deserving” of the championship than any other driver.

      The team politics involved may have been a factor, sure, but even without being #1 driver, Webber could have easily won this championship if he had been a little more consistent, both in qualifying and on race day.

      I for one would have loved to see him win, but he didn’t, and it diminishes the hard work that Vettel put in all season - he didn’t just have the championship handed to him on a silver platter, you know, he DID have to work for it - to even suggest that the *only* reason Vettel won was because of the advantages offered as the team #1.

      Congratulations to Vettel for a great win - let’s hope Mark can do it next year smile

    • antman says:

      12:52pm | 15/11/10

      I’ve followed Mark closely too since his Minardi days (actually, probably his F3000/Benneton testing days) and really wanted to see him take the title.

      Up until Saturday evening, I thought he deserved it too. However, Saturday’s qualifying and last night’s race were not what I would expect of someone hungry for the championship. He was too far behind his teammate in qualifying, which shows that he wasn’t getting the most out of the car or himself (I also question Red Bull’s tactics with both of its drivers - why were they not out on fresh rubber at the end of the session when the track should have been at its fastest? Not that it seemed to hurt Vettel too much). If you’re not beating your own teammate, eliminating the variable of equipment, then that’s at least one driver who is doing better than you, so you can’t be the best.

      Last night’s grandma drive was just horrible to watch. At no point, apart from a few laps after he changed tyres and passed Algesuiri, did he look like a front line driver. There was no aggression, no hunger. When Alonso was stuck behind the Renault driven by a rookie for half the race, Mark should have been all over Alonso’s gear box and then he may well have taken advantage of one of Alonso’s many off-track excursions (or been taken out by it). It may not have changed the final result of the championship, but he never put himself in the position to find out; and that is what champions do. His excuse about haow hard it is for cars to follow closely, while true, is a cop out; plenty of other drivers were racing closely and overtaking. Mark had nothing to lose and gave it away with his lack of commitment to racing.

      Ferrari dropped the ball big time. It was obvious that Mark would slow down once he came up behind the Renaults and Mercedes. This year marked 30 years that I have been following Formula 1 and I am still amazed at how badly professional race teams sometimes read races. This is something that Ferrari used to do so well (and Red Bull often do so badly). All Ferrari had to do was leave Alonso out until either Mark passed at least one Renault (not that he looked like passing anything other than time) or one or two of them pitted. Third or fourth would have been a doddle for Alonso if his team hadn’t let him down. Mind you, his attitude towards Petrov after the race, gesticulating at him for not moving over, shows that he believes that he deserves results to come his way and that others shouldn’t stand in his way, rather than earning them entirely on merit. Very poor show and did nothing to improve his standing in my books.

      Strangely, Hamilton earned my admiration. He may be a spoiled pratt and a one-dimensional car/tyre wrecker, but at least he gives it everything all the time (early last season, when he actually discovered what it was like to drive an uncompetitive car, excepted).

    • antman says:

      01:42pm | 15/11/10

      *Alguersuari*

    • CynicalGoatWA says:

      10:30am | 15/11/10

      Re headline…..NO. Not good enough. Simple as that.

    • Eno The Wonderdog says:

      10:42am | 15/11/10

      Vettel lost certain race wins in Melbourne when the wheels fell off and in Korea when the car went PFFTT. He’s put himself out of races and was STILL fast enough in the remaining races to win.

      I’m certainly no fan of Vettel’s but you can’t take it away from him.

      I think Mark blew it in Valencia when he ploughed into the back of the (far far slower) Lotus. Mistakes are one thing but that was simple brain fade.

      (Hey Jenni - I still have a T-shirt I bought at his first race in Melbourne - I think it was a fan club one - certainly not Minardi.)

    • How I see it says:

      10:53am | 15/11/10

      It serves Red Bull better for Vettel to be winning than Webber. Germany is a far larger market and has a far bigger F1 following than Aus.

      Red Bull is a commercial entity that needs to market itself and sell drinks.

      While Webber would be a “deserving” and popular champion, a successful Vettel has a lot more value to Red Bull over the coming years.

      Vettel is physicall small & light,  he’s very quick and nailed pole position time and time again when it mattered most (often with only one flying lap available).

      End of story.

    • Gregg says:

      11:02am | 15/11/10

      Yep, it would have been great for Mark to have won and no greater than for himself and it could have happened except for some dissappointing incidents through the season and there was not just the Korean poor drive, a very sub standard exit that you would not expect of a champion and Vettel would have gone on to win that race if it had not been for the engine failure.
      There was also the spectacular flight into space, launced off from the rear of another car which though may have contributed had every right to be there and again it was poor judgement and concentration from Mark and certainly not champion stuff.
      When I saw that and coupling with some very poor starts, I thought Mark was extremely lucky to have been in the championship lead as long as he had been.

      So yep, he may have had some anger to drive him and had his best season ever but he does need to improve to be a champion and with his experience I doubt we will see better from Mark.
      There were also some strategy decisions throughout the year re tyre use that did not go his way and as a top driver he ought to be managing that, even in last nights race, pitting earlier than he did, even on the SC car lap would have been the move.

      I think Vettel has improved toward the end of the season and that is expected of any driver in earlier times gaining more experience and without mechanical DNFs he would have won by an even larger margin.
      There is something of a Senna/Schumi in the guy and his drive in the Korean rain reminded me of one of Schumi’s first drives, a second I believe it could have been in the wet at Monaco.

      And talking of Schumi, how close was his survival and would that not shake you up a bit!
      Wonder if he plans on going around next year or has decided enough is enough.

    • Greg says:

      11:32am | 15/11/10

      “As Red Bull’s designated No. 1 driver, Vettel had all the backing in the world to make the Formula One title his own.”

      Not officially and probably not privately either considering Webber was ahead for most of the season.

      This article is embarassing to read. Where’s your proof? I thought that was kind of important for a ‘journalist’. Sounds like multiple paragraphs of truthiness to me.

    • Seb says:

      12:35pm | 15/11/10

      From your article I can only surmise that you are no expert in Formula One matters whatsoever. That might be excusable. But having no clue at all - and clearly haven’t followed the season, and then writing this piece about Webber being “robbed” of his title by the “anointed” Vettel, that’s pretty strong tobacco… Webber had it all in his hands. He was driving the same equipment as Vettel - and just for your information: The RB6 did not have “one of the best engines ever made for the track”, it was rather the chassis and aerodynamics package which made this car so strong (clocking at 21st position in top speeds today should give an indication where the strengths of the car lie).
      Where Webber unfortunately threw his championship away was in South Korea, with a big mistake which clearly shook up his self-confidence. I would have loved to see him win the championship today for all the reasons you mentioned (and I am not an Aussie), but Webber had his fate in his own hands and he was not able to convert the advantage from 4 or 5 races ago into an overall win today. Vettel on the other hand did not stop believing in himself, and most importantly never stopped racing. Today Webber had stopped racing, he never once even attempted attacking Alonso when stuck behind Petrov, even though Alonso went off track at least three times…
      Unfortunately, I do not believe that Webber will be back in a Red Bull next season, but I do think that he has every chance to secure a seat in a F1 car.

    • antman says:

      01:48pm | 15/11/10

      Oh, I don’t know. That same engine looked pretty handy in the rear of the yellow cars. Handy enough to keep both Ferrari and McLaren behind them despite the much touted F-duct in the Maccas and top-end power of boththe Ferrari and Mercedes engines.

    • Greg says:

      02:22pm | 15/11/10

      Agree wholeheartedly. The author implies that Sebastien Vettel had something to do with Webber’s weekend. If she had read the Fox Sports page which can be accessed from News.com.au’s homepage, you would find an article written after qualifying in which Webber was quoted as saying he saw Vettel’s lap time on his board and thought, “I can’t do that” which he says he thought for the first time in his life. As for Vettel having anything else to do with Webber, the results of the weekend show.

      This piece reads like typical poorly researched work, even the headline was spruced up from the expected: “We was robbed!!!!!!111!!!!!11!!!!!!!!”

    • Shaun says:

      04:47pm | 15/11/10

      Certainly not the best engine on the grid, drivable yes, semi-reliable but down on power especially to the merc power plant. Redbull tried unsuccessfully to get the merc for 2011 on , but was politely rebuffed.
        I just don’t understand why after being always within a 1/10th of Seb all year Mark was so far off in in qualifying? Why wasn’t he glued to Alonso’s gearbox to sneak past when he went off no less than 3 times?  Why oh why? Did he just give up? Very ‘un-Webber’ like.

    • Ethan says:

      12:38pm | 15/11/10

      It is a shame you neglected to indicate in your article that Webber qualified in 5th place for the race.  This significant fact cost him the world championship.

    • happy hamilton is a loser says:

      02:02pm | 15/11/10

      no not necessarily, drivers have won a race before from back in 10th spot and worse, especially with the safety car coming out early so drivers could catch up. now pitting early, thats a significant fact that cost him getting a better place in the race, making his chances of winning the championship a lot less being stuck in all the slow traffic and still behind alonso!!!

    • fan says:

      12:39pm | 15/11/10

      funny how all of you are saying vettel was the number 1 driver - but when the owner / manager of both teams were asked there was no such thing they were both equal. we, the fans and watchers of the sport know better thats why vettel got mark’s new better front wing instead of mark getting it which lead to vettel winning that race and its been the same all year. you cant have favourtism then expect both drivers to do well unfortunately ferrari do just the same look at poor massa giving up first place for alonso then alonso doesnt even win the championship and massa looks worse in points than he should do

    • massawebberfan says:

      12:49pm | 15/11/10

      the only thing webber was robbed of was getting 2nd in the overall championship instead of 3rd. if the stewards had given massa the winners points and alonso 2nd place when he stole first and shouldnt have gotten the points he wouldnt be ahead of webber full stop. money is nothing to ferrari points are everything should have swapped the points to what it would have been if they hadnt cheated then webber would be 2nd behind vettel but as always ferrari seems to get away with everything.

    • Juno T says:

      01:45pm | 15/11/10

      I like Webber, but he was beaten on the day… now move on Julie

      and Julie, if you must opine about sport, stick to swimming please

    • Amz says:

      02:48pm | 15/11/10

      Better luck next year Markie

      Vet is an idot.

    • Ask a stupid question says:

      04:09pm | 15/11/10

      Idol ?

    • Mike says:

      03:12pm | 15/11/10

      Mark will be with Red Bull next year and he will give the title a red hot go - as does every driver talented enough to be in Formula 1.

    • Stevo D Devo says:

      03:39pm | 15/11/10

      Webber was Alonso’s Stalking Horse, set out by Horner with the dodgy tyres. He Has been a pawn or tool of RBR all along. Webber ought to be making A FEW Fone calls to Ferrari in the coming weeks

      Vettel is a W#*ker. Hope this is his only title. Won by collusion, stealth, bigotry and blatant favouritism..

    • Matthew says:

      04:09pm | 15/11/10

      Yes Vettel is a little so and so….and I do love Mark and desperately wanted him to win the title however the facts of the race were that simply Mark qualified poorly and had a bad race and Vettel put it on pole and lead all the way.  You can’t take that off him, its not like he took Webber out and there were one or two occasions in the season where Mark put it in the wall where he was in the top 4 or 5 cars that would have made all the difference.

      Mark should be really proud of his season and come back and try again next year but he was just beaten on the day unfortunately.

    • BCD says:

      04:44pm | 15/11/10

      Webber wasn’t robbed, he simply didn’t get the best out of the car all weekend, full stop. Vettel did, got pole, game over. Whilst Vettel is clearly the “anointed one” within the Austrian/German team, and a grade A prat to boot, he did have the speed this year to take title easily and deserves it (crikey that hurt to say!!). Webber is more than capable of beating anyone on his day, and hopefully this pain with just galvanise him to go out kick butt next year and take it for himself. Everyone must remember he has not had the equipment to challenge before now, so this is his “golden” period and he knows better than anyone he has to make it happen sooner rather later.

    • Jess says:

      05:25pm | 15/11/10

      Yeah I think the biggest thing that happened yesterday was both RBR and Ferrari were so focused on the battle between Webber and Alonso in the fight for the title that both teams took their eyes off the other threats to the title (and the race win) being Vettel and the 2 McLarens. The only difference being that RBR had 2 excellent drivers that could mathematically win, and Ferrari only 1.

      Before the race, I’m absolutely sure that RBR’s focus would have been on finding a way for Webber to win the title, but the way it panned out as the race went on, it suddenly became clear that the best chance they had was Vettel - and thats how it went.

      I’m not sure what lap it was, but Webber came screaming around a corner and got to close to the edge of the wall and nudged it a little bit and there were some sparks. He was on the radio 5 mins later complaining about a loose rear wheel (the same one that hit the wall) and then came into the pits early. So I think it was hard before the race starting in 5th, but after that and having to come in unexpectedly to change tyres early meant he was stuffed and stuck in the middle of the pack.

      His chances were all but gone after that.

    • F1 Fan says:

      05:26pm | 15/11/10

      I have been following Mark Webber’s F1 career ever since he started racing with Minardi. I have watched as he struggled through many disappointing races and DNF’s because of the poor machinery he was driving.
      2010 was going to be the year for Webber and to his credit, he lead much of the season in the championship - out shining ‘the golden boy’. Mark Webber made one crucial error - the accident in Korea which eroded his lead in the championship. It was this accident and not the Red Bull team favouring Vettal which robbed him of F1 glory. Webber gifted this title to his team mate.

    • stephen says:

      06:31pm | 15/11/10

      If Michael Schumacher reckons Mark is World Champion material, then I’ll go with that.
      And Mr. Chong up top is right :
      that game last night was shite. Must have been three forward passes on the night, and who had his foot on the boundary line taking a match winning mark ?(well, it was at that stage).

    • Jane Wallace says:

      06:41pm | 15/11/10

      Your comment:Webber came eighth. the other bloke came first.
      Webber only comes from Australia And so how could he compete with the best on earth ?

    • Bad luck says:

      06:49pm | 15/11/10

      Good yarn. Provocative. Had to be said.

    • Senna Fan says:

      07:32pm | 15/11/10

      No-one robbed anyone. I am sure Mark is not crying and whinging. So why are you Julie? If he’s a down to earth Aussie bloke from Struggletown, he takes it on the chin. He had his chances. And no-one ‘deserves’ to win anything. There are plenty of tough luck stories in F 1 and just about every other sport and people don’t whine and carry on like five year olds.

      And whether Vettel is not a nice guy like you media people portray poor Mark to be, so what? He won the race he had to win and he won the whole thing. It’s very easy to criticise a winner for personality ‘defects’ and to put someone’s inability to win down to some conspiracy and favouritism and so on, but how about giving Vettel credit rather than bleating about poor Mark being hard done by.

    • Amber says:

      09:51pm | 15/11/10

      The driver with the most race victories and the most pole positions won the drivers’ championship. No matter your view of any politics in Red Bull (or even in Ferrari re Massa’s sacrifice), it’s hard to argue the end result was the wrong one. I wanted Vettel to lose and Webber to win but I salute Vettel. Webber was solely responsible for his two big crashes and that cost him oodles of points, probably at least 30. Here’s to a crash-free 2011.

      However, I’m dying to know why he couldn’t keep up with Alonso.

    • wilfix says:

      10:45pm | 15/11/10

      just a minor point Julie but   As Red Bull’s designated number one driver”“
      Sorry but Red bull do not have a designated number one or number two driver as far as I know.You may think Red Bull favours one driver or other but that neither makes it true nor magically places it in the Red Bull policy documents.Probably sticking to the truth is the best policy.Unless you can point me to where Red Bull has publicised this designation then I will apologise profusely or perhaps you should apologise for misleading your readers.

    • johhny says:

      03:46am | 16/11/10

      Webber is this… Webber is that..

      Wow really informative

    • F1Fan says:

      07:24am | 16/11/10

      Red Bull did not have no 1 and no 2 drivers, most teams try not to place that tag, it’s demoralising but in some cases, teams execute team orders. Webber race was lost after quali due to lack of time and the fact drivers spread out over the track in order to run a fast lap, Webber got caught out. His race was compromised due to rear tyre graining, but he also hit the right rear on the barrier wall from pushing hard. Formula1 is just that, many things happen and need to go 200% right to tick all the right boxes to win.

      Huge credit to Webber for an awesome season and best of luck for 2011. But a huge nod to Vettel for taking the title. Mark even mentioned the same thing, perceptions of on track antics are on edge compared to off track. Vettel just has so much talent, he’s a like a young Shumi joining Benneton.

      For RBR to deliver a double championship is also amazing being their first time (like Brawn GP last year). Webber did have a chance, but was also heavily clouded by Alonso whom in every instance would have tried to block Webber, unfortunate for Ferrari making an early call but ditto, this is F1 racing.

 

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