Labor is frantically priming the electorate for a “tough Budget” and health and medical research has borne the brunt of the Government’s political posturing in recent weeks.

Take two tablets daily. If pain persists, have an election. Photo: Adelaide Now.

A strategic leak from the Gillard Government proposed a $400 million cut over three years only to be followed by unconfirmed reports of a back-flip. 

It is likely the Government was preparing the sector for a worse-case scenario before delivering lesser cuts with the headline message that they had spared research from the worst.  It remains a possibility.

Whatever the outcome on the night, the Government’s flip-flopping messages for sectors such as medical research and pharmaceuticals are creating enormous uncertainty and scaring away capital investment.

After years of scandalous waste and mismanagement, the Government is desperate to deliver an elusive Labor surplus to salvage some semblance of economic credibility. It has pinned a lot of its scarce political capital to it.

The much promised surplus in 2012-13 was always wafer-thin with no margin whatsoever for the unexpected.  Not surprisingly, the Government is now in a difficult bind.

But by targeting productive sectors the Gillard Government will cost the country, including the Government, a lot more in the long run and there are ample opportunities for savings elsewhere.

The $16 billion overpriced school halls are still being built in the name of stimulus at a time when the Government is making cuts as part of a supposed contractionary fiscal policy.

The over $2 billion spent on putting insulation in ceilings and taking it out again could have delivered enormous dividends for our economy and health system for years to come if it had gone to health and medical research.

It is little wonder respectable researchers and scientists took to the streets in their lab coats with placards in hand.

Only weeks ago, Julia Gillard reaffirmed the Government’s promise of close to $1 billion for a raft of new bureaucracies including Medicare Locals, the Independent Hospital Pricing Authority, the National Performance Authority, the National Funding Authority and more, under the guise of health reform.

The projected jump in health costs, particularly in relation to chronic disease, has been core to the Government’s rhetoric on health reform.  There is no disputing that some of the figures are staggering, such as a projected 430 per cent increase in diabetes costs in the next two decades and an almost doubling of the Australian Government’s expenditure on health as a proportion of GDP.

However, it defies common sense that the answer to health reform is spending hundreds of millions of dollars on more bureaucracy and red tape whilst catapulting medical research and pharmaceuticals into policy uncertainty.

For Australia, the runs are on the board with health and medical research as an investment for Government as has been well canvassed in the recent debate.

Australia’s successes are many and well documented in the work of the likes of Sir Frank MacFarlane Burnet, Professor Peter Doherty and Professor Ian Frazer for just a start. 

Whether it is a cervical cancer vaccine, the discovery of the Heliobacter pylori bacterium or the many other important but less well known advances, the results of health and medical research are real and measurable and Australia has punched above its weight.

This was recognised by the Coalition and in Government we provided a five-fold increase in funding. 

There was an expectation that bipartisan support for this important investment would continue.

To provide greater certainty, the Coalition at the last election allocated $200 million in additional funding for health and medical research and committed to developing an indexed funding model. 

That election promise seems all the more important now.

The sector relies on significant capital investment for infrastructure, including large philanthropic contributions.

This makes the Government’s leaked proposal for cuts and subsequent unconfirmed reversal, all the more damaging and destabilising.  Without long-term policy certainty, it is near impossible to attract private investment and large donations.

Unfortunately though, the decision to attack a productive, successful and important sector is not without recent precedent.

It follows closely the decision of the Gillard Government to ignore the advice of its independent Pharmaceutical Benefits Advisory Committee (PBAC).

The Gillard Government has refused to list six drugs and a vaccine on the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme that were recommended by the PBAC, blaming its current fiscal situation.

The change means that access to lifesaving medicines will be based on political decisions irrespective of the clinical evidence.

This action directly contravenes the Memorandum of Understanding the Government signed last year with the sector and is a radical departure from the convention of successive governments of both persuasions.

The development of medicines and vaccines also has very long lead times and requires significant investment.  The enormous uncertainty created by the Government’s actions may leave many organisations questioning whether it is worth attempting to bring innovative new medicines and treatments to the Australian market.

One company has already announced that the decision is likely to impair its ability to make new anti-diabetic drugs available in Australia.

All this is not just bad news for people who work in the sector, students and researchers, but it is devastating for patients and their families with chronic and complex health needs who live in hope of advances and timely access to new treatments.

For governments, good economic management should involve cutting waste and inefficiency, but importantly also, investing in productive and proven areas for the future betterment of the nation.

Medical research and pharmaceuticals are areas that can alleviate the growing burden on our health system, improve outcomes for patients and contribute to our economy.

Whilst Labor might eventually see the folly of its reckless policy handling of medical research and pharmaceuticals, confidence in the sectors has been dealt a severe blow and long term damage may have already been done.

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    • acotrel says:

      06:15am | 03/05/11

      When my kids were young, our favourite TV show was ‘Lost in Space’.  THe robot used to rumble around waving its arms shouting ’ WARNING, WARNING, DANGER WILL ROBINSON’ !!  -  Remind you of someone?

    • jb says:

      07:53am | 03/05/11

      wayne swan?

    • Tom says:

      07:56am | 03/05/11

      Yes, a Labor carbon tax salesman.

    • Rosie says:

      08:03am | 03/05/11

      Funny I had a toy Bonzo dog, it was automation and when wounded up it would back away and repeat ; BAD BAD GOVT TOO MANY STUFF UPS!! then with a sad look goes into a whimper. Poor Bonzo I can sympathize with you!

    • TChong says:

      08:23am | 03/05/11

      Really Rosie.?
      Until now, I’ve wondered where you get your POVs from.
      Dictated to you, word for word by the dog.

    • dovif says:

      08:33am | 03/05/11

      Since the ALP’s core competence seems to be incompetence. I am going to suggest an ALP appologist.

      It can be played to the background of a Britney Spires song ... “Opp! We stuff up again”

      Whether it is Insulation, Green loan, ETS, Border protection, Grocery Watch, Fuel Watch, BER, Budget, Mining Tax, Carbon Tax, amended Mining tax, Citizen’s Assembly, Fake Julia. This government has just shown that its MO is incompetence.

      So, stuffing something else up would just be normal for this government

    • michael j says:

      08:42am | 03/05/11

      Arrr the spineless,gutless character who was never interested in anything but self centred greed and personal self gratification , mindless of the needs of others so much so they put the lives of others at continual risk and still had expect ion of forgiveness and probably a large reward ,perhaps in the shape of a very large superannuation payout,while never offering an apology ,only saying it wasn’t my fault,,,,,
      remind me of anyone,NOPE, not one person or organization i can think of ATM,,,,,,,,

    • dukdog says:

      09:21am | 03/05/11

      Poor Chongie , he will excuse all ALP goings-on.

    • Rosie says:

      10:43am | 03/05/11

      Chongy

      Yeah when I say SMART BONZO SMART BONZO he wags his tail and is happy again!

      Sometimes it is better not to defend what you believe to be the truth but respond to those that remain in denial about the truth!

    • TChong says:

      10:43am | 03/05/11

      Dukdog - you speaking for Rosie , again?

    • simon says:

      11:54am | 03/05/11

      TChong, Rosie does a good job mate, and dukdog is just providing support for a cause. Your the real worry here buddy, with you blind support of everything Labor irrespective of it’s merits. It really does make you look rather foolish. I like most sensible people on this forum generally disregard your comments as mindless propaganda.

    • Govt@FauxCitizen says:

      12:48pm | 03/05/11

      @acotrel, YEAH,,,, Reminds me of your beloved chicken little mob, The Unions, throwing around $80,000,000 on fighting “Work Choices” and Rudd pretty front boy polish 2007 Circus MK1, Anti work choices and Born Again Joolya Polish 2010,  and a couple of daggers just to keep their ever slipping grip on their irrelenvant jobs. Even Tanner bailed before this circus MK2 Rolled out the big tent,,, because they seem to be lost in deep space somewhere…....................................................    “OH THE PAIN, THE PAIN” ,,,,Touche’

    • Dallas Beaufort says:

      01:50am | 04/05/11

      Bob Brown

    • John C says:

      06:19am | 03/05/11

      Yes, why is the government still proceeding with the building the schools program when it says it is desperate for money. Surely any unfulfilled projects could have been put on hold.

      And if Dutton speaks the truth about the setting up and cost of new bureaucracies, always a big if when a politician is talking, that is a scandal in itself when the government is considering savage cuts elsewhere.

    • acotrel says:

      06:20am | 03/05/11

      Peter Dutton should leave politics and go back into the police force!  Then he could start shouting ’ Warning: Speed Kills’ ?

    • *yawns* says:

      08:25am | 03/05/11

      Great comments Acotrel, i dont know how we could have survived the morning without your irrelevant bleats…two from two on the one article that have nothing to do with health or fiscal measures and everything to do with Dutton *applauds*

    • Pete says:

      08:35am | 03/05/11

      was peter dutton a qld cop?  in that case, credibility level zero, just another coalition “the sky is falling” ploy.  One day, they may actually stun us with a real policy statement

    • The Original Oz says:

      09:07am | 03/05/11

      @ “yawns” - that is probably because the great labor sock-puppet acotrel (or maybe it was the other labor sock-puppet Persephone - a bit hard to tell them apart some times) insisted not long ago on these forums that Gillard was not going to cut Medical Research funding

    • Ryan says:

      12:38pm | 03/05/11

      @Pete: I thought “the sky is falling” claim belongs to those spouting on about the carbon tax?

    • Against the Man says:

      06:33am | 03/05/11

      Okay, I’ve said all before, Roxon worst health minister ever and so forth. Watch out for Medicare cuts, and no real economic management of the hospitals.

      The reality is that many people have noticed hospitals are worse of, health is getting limited and choice for the consumer have been cut. And we are worse off.

      Remember the 100% take over by the Federal government? Yes, we are all still waiting…..........

    • Catching up says:

      08:16am | 03/05/11

      Funny that At 69 I have had experience with three operations in hospitals over the last few years on the Central Coast.  Yes there was a wait, but none I could not deal with.  I have also had an son-in-law who was operated on for gallstones mediately in Campbelltown Hospital.  If you need emergency treatment, you wile get it.

      I was born with a hare lip and four children had continuous experience with hospitals since my birth.  I feel that I am in a position to be able to make value assessments of the hospital systems.

      I have a month old great-grandson who is still alive with the skills provided by the two Westmead Hospitals.  This is a miracle in itself, as he was given 30% of survival after birth. 

      I had a partner that spent numerous visits to emergency.  I have a cousin dies because of rapid cancer in another hospital on the coast. In the last couple months.  I cannot fault any of the hospitals I have contact with.

      I wish I could say the same for local doctors, who insist on full payment and you are lucky to get an appointment within a week.  Another problem is that they have a system of interns and you are lucky to see the same doctor more than several times.  I have solved this problem by visiting my daughter at Narellan any time I need to see a doctor. Much better service, I believe because the doctors there have more competition.

      I am concentrating on hospitals, because that seems to be what people are talking about when they criticise the health system.  The shame is that they do not seem to understand that hospitals are only a small part of any health systems.  Most who visit a hospital, for operations where in the past, you would have been kept in for ten days up, you are now most likely to be home within four hours. 

      I would like to add, the hospitals buildings have grown over the last few years. 

      I have a feeling that many criticising the system have had little contact with hospitals.  The hopsitals I am talking about are in areas that are considered to have the worse services.

    • The Redman says:

      08:19am | 03/05/11

      Still waiting? It was the Coalition federally and the West Australian Liberal Government that blocked the federal takeover of the health system. Every other State and Territory agreed to go with it - until the Liberal Party won in Victoria, and then it was dead in the water for purely political expedience. As usual, you blame the ALP for actions taken by the Coalition. The Coalition is a pure Opposition. No to everything the ALP tries to introduce.

    • Tony of Poorakistan says:

      09:21am | 03/05/11

      redman

      there is no way you could allow a Federal Government this incompetent to take back vast slices of the GST pie on a simple promise that they would spend it on health. That’s bollocks. As the GST revenenue rises in Qld and WA, do you really expect that the money they handed back would be spent on their Health systems? That’s bollocks - Gillard would put some to Health and the rest to whatever lamebrain, left-wing, bleeding-heart idiocy appealed to her at the time. Probably all expenses paid four week holidays back home for illegal immigrants.

    • The Original Oz says:

      11:15am | 03/05/11

      @Tony of Poorakistan - Have you been reading the Gillard/Brown Policy book again? That paid vacation definitely sounds likes a Gillard Stop the Boats policy in the making.

    • Against the Man says:

      12:43pm | 03/05/11

      Hey Catching up, if you are happy with the state of things great!

      And for the rest if you are not happy than make sure Minister Roxon hears about it.

      NSW ALP lost the State election for many reasons. One of them was health care.

    • Troy says:

      04:37pm | 03/05/11

      @The Redman, Mate you cant serouisly think that KRudd proposal was anything but a diversion tatic to get the media off the bungling of his BER, ETS, Pink Batts? KRudd was the master of spin (and still is), and he played the media tune better than anyone I have seen. Unfortunatly he was big on spin but had very little sucesses. By blocking this so called take over (that was only really redirecting money) the Liberal state governments probably saved the biggest stuff up by far of the Federal Labor Government, that would have resulted in far more deaths than the pink batts killed. Just today the Victorian State Government has anounced massive hospital budget increases that where promised in the last election, and I am sure the new NSW Government will be heading down the same lines. You see Labor may be seen to be the party you choose for health and education and no doubt they spend big on these areas, but how much of the money actually goes to fixing anything, and how much of the money that Labor spends is wasted on mis-managment and crap???? For god sakes man, KRudd couldnt put pink batts into peoples houses without burning them down and killing people, how the hell could anyone trust him or Gillard with our entire health system?

    • acotrel says:

      06:36am | 03/05/11

      Peter Dutton “Labor incompetence’ won’t add much damage to my health, above the damage already caused by Liberal Party incompetence.  I’ve had open heart surgery and three strokes, all caused by exposure to abysmal management cultures in businesses run by your followers.  Workchoices proved to me just how out of touch your lot really are!  You love to try and shaft disability pensioners, but you simply disregard the part your politics play in contributing to workplace injuries.  Your past leader’s disregard for the importance of industrial democracy to our economy, shows your party’s ignorance in industrial matters.

    • *yawns* says:

      08:31am | 03/05/11

      OMG did u just blame three strokes and open heart surgery solely and squarely on the Liberals and Workchoices?  Im sure it had nothing to do with the normal things like general health, lifestyle or hereditary…its the fault of that meany John Howard and the nasty conservatives!

    • Tom says:

      08:44am | 03/05/11

      So health (under Howard’s “Liberal Party incompetence”, I presume) gave you all that heart surgery, acetrol? I would have thought you would be a bit more grateful?

    • jf says:

      11:00am | 03/05/11

      acotrel says:06:36am | 03/05/11

      I’ve had open heart surgery and three strokes, all caused by exposure to abysmal management cultures in businesses run by your followers”

      Are you serious acotrel? Do you really blame your employer for these conditions? I’d love to see the medical evidence that suggests that an “abysmal management culture” caused heart damage and/or strokes rather than genetics or poor lifestyle.

      Still, better to blame someone else than take responsibility. That, after all, is the Labor way.

    • simon says:

      12:04pm | 03/05/11

      Acotrel, still pushing that rusty workchoices barrow. Is that all you got these days, you are really struggling mate, that’s understandable though, it must be very hard defending the ruibbish coming from Gillard/Brown and Swan at the moment. Just wait till the budget gets handed down, with a $50 billion record deficit that will clearly highlight the waste and incompetence of the most inept government Australia has ever seen. No wonder they need to cripple the Australian economy with a carbon tax to make up for all their profligacy.

    • Ryan says:

      12:44pm | 03/05/11

      @acotrel: lucky for you that “Liberal Party incompetence” saved your life dealing with three strokes and open heart surgery. Now if only they had really been incompetent.

      Perhaps if you working practices had been more agreeable to those management cultures things would have been different?

    • Simon Simpleton says:

      12:46pm | 03/05/11

      I know simple simon
      It would have been much more better if unemployment had hit double digits, foreclosures went through the roof and hundreds of thousands of Australians found themselves homeless

    • simon says:

      01:12pm | 03/05/11

      Acotrel so now you change you pseudonym to make it look like someone else is commenting, really smart mate, is that something Gillard taught you. You also need to brush up on your grammar Acotrel, your comment “much more better” just goes to show how fragile your psyche is. the GFC has pretty much passed and with help from the previous government surpluses, China and the mining boom we made it through with minor scars. Why then is money still being wasted building school halls 3 years after the fact???? Would have thought that could be stopped now rather than attack medical research!! Not just dumb, really, really dumb, but with Wayne Swan looking after finances, what did we really expect!!!

    • jf says:

      02:03pm | 03/05/11

      Simon Simpleton says:12:46pm | 03/05/11

      “I know simple simon
      It would have been much more better if unemployment had hit double digits, foreclosures went through the roof and hundreds of thousands of Australians found themselves homeless”

      An excellent point. Yet another reason we simply cannot afford to have a financially incompetent Labor Government.

    • Troy says:

      04:41pm | 03/05/11

      acotrel, that is by far your dumbest comments ever!!!!! Hahahahaha Workchoices cause your heart problems, Hahahahahah!!!!! My God Man! Even you can do better than that. hahahahaha

    • fairsfair says:

      05:03pm | 03/05/11

      Oh man.

      My dad has had a stroke. The doctor told him it was a homozygous Factor V Leiden deficiency - wait until I tell him it was workchoices.

    • jb says:

      06:45am | 03/05/11

      Its such a shame that we have a government in power that puts the brown paper bag paybacks to Unions before the health of the nation.
      More Australians Mugged by the Juliar at the expense of her own personal ambition.
      Doctors like Ian Frazer at Prima Biomed need all the help they can get to not only help Australians live a longer life through debilitating illness but people in all corners of the world.
      It’s a shame that help to science and health research must wait until the next election and wither away with all the other industries that don’t have strong union backing…

    • TChong says:

      07:32am | 03/05/11

      ‘brown paper bags paybacks to unions”- tell more pls jb.
      The problem for this line of attack though,  is that “Health “employees are covered by state / territories award.
      But, dont let that stop you in explaining what theses evil health unions (nurses) are doing.
      No opposition from the AMA - they are a Liberal union.

    • jb says:

      08:02am | 03/05/11

      So Chong from my post the best you can do is defend the unions?
      WOW, man, you seriously have no respect for your fellow man and wander blindly towards the burning embers of the union movement.
      Pretty much says it all about you really.
      You mention your health problems in another post and rather than being thankful for the wonderful work of our medical practitioners you want to justify juliar mugging the very people that have kept you alive.
      You can have the last word as I will not dignify your lack of compassion and respect with a response!

    • Mahhrat says:

      08:07am | 03/05/11

      @jb, and what about the “brown paper bag paybacks” to the mining companies?

      Mine didn’t make any more sense than yours, buddy.

    • TChong says:

      08:14am | 03/05/11

      Jb settle , ,drop all the crap.
      What deals have been done?
      A simple question .
      You are a bit confused jb, I havent mentioned any health problem ( for me) , but please remind me.
      Sort yourself out, think.
      As for not bothering to reply, I reckon its because you have simply trotted out a cliché , and have absolutely no truth , or back up for it, and appear to have confused me for someone else.

    • Tom says:

      08:29am | 03/05/11

      TChong, jb did not specify the nurses union. You wouldn’t be using the straw man Hawker Britton tactic would you?

      Brown paper bags are all over the place at the moment with Oakeshott, Wilkie, not to omit Combet, Ged Kearney and Juliar’s ETS “Labor would not bring in.”

      NSW Labor did rush through a pay rise to nurses before its undeserved demise. The rise looked to be in the projected CPI range and I doubt BOF would have done it a whole lot differently.

    • TChong says:

      10:52am | 03/05/11

      Tom, to what unions are being referred to ?
      Speech Pathologists ?, Audiology technicians ?Dietitians? Physio ? Occupatioal therapists?
      The nurses pay claim and rise was deserved, even Skinner conceded so.

    • Tom says:

      11:52am | 03/05/11

      TChong, My blog states, “The rise looked to be in the projected CPI range and I doubt BOF would have done it a whole lot differently.” So we agree.

      Agree, no-one (either side) dares upset the AMA or the RDA. Perhaps there are other brown paper bags JB refered to affecting health?

      My association was less direct than yours. I just thought that union brown paper bags (in matters extending outside health) were robbing health of funding such as health research. However, you could be correct, jb might have got things mixed up.

      My own interpretation is that things such as cuts to health research have become necessary because of bribes such as (“stimulus” profligacy by Rudd, NBN profligacy by Rudd) to name a couple.

      Any intelligent research on state Labor health spending would show millions being wasted on “clipboard nurses” and a costly agenda to inundate key and administrative health positions with nurses union hacks. Such cronyism was payback for union funds being directed into Labor re-election campaigns over the years.

    • Against the Man says:

      12:37pm | 03/05/11

      Oh TChong, back already, you disappeared for a while so as not to answer my straight forward questions from the previous article.

      Well we know what you are really made of smile

      So you are okay with the nursing union being a Labor union and getting medicare benefits and indemnity coverage for their unqualified members?

      TChong = Zero credibility

      Too funny mate smile

    • Taurus says:

      07:39am | 03/05/11

      Well written, Peter. What is it with Labor’s penchant for building bureaucracies? Usually headed up by cronies, they become plutocracies (at least here in Queensland). As well as the cost of staffing and housing bureaucracies, there are always the additional costs of red tape, bottlenecks and impediments caused by compliance issues. At each level in bureaucracies are the human elements of self-serving aspirations together with the spin and perception issues. Often, sensible governance goes out the window as the politics of perception dominates decision-making. The effect of bureaucratic behaviour on subordinate staff and the general public produces the very antithesis of outcomes expected from excellent customer focus. And the entire concept is funded by the population at the expense of providing real solutions. In Queensland the most prominent example is Queensland Health. Evidence abounds that significant money is being wasted by incompetent bureaucrats who then claim significant more funding is required for their empire. Yet there is not the calibre nor ability to implement the long-overdue comprehensive external review of Queensland Health. Where bureaucracies remain unchallenged they rely on perception and spin to foster their self-serving aspirations and then insist on additional funding to provide services they should already be providing.

    • acotrel says:

      07:50am | 03/05/11

      @Taurus That’s a lot of bull! The majority of public service empire buiding occurred i9n the Manzies era, and the recent stuff is simply following that example.  Back in those days all any public service manager had to do was write a simple-minded justification - next thing - more staff!  And he moves up one level.  The Menzies era was ‘opportunity lost’, while the rest of the world was rebuilding, he held us back!  The current LNP is having the same effect, by it’s senseless obstruction of every progressive move by the ALP!

    • nossy says:

      08:00am | 03/05/11

      Another shocker Newspolltoday for Tony Abbott Peter as once again he trails PM Gillard in the Preffered PM poll and in the Dissatisfaction poll more people remain dissatisfied with him then satisfied. When oh when are you guys in the Liberal Party going to wise up and get Malcolm Turnbull back into the leadership - then you have a chance !

    • Frank says:

      10:13am | 03/05/11

      She can thank the media for her preferred PM poll and Abbott trailing her. Everywhere you go you find people laughing about her as PM. Abbott only needs a couple of postive articles and comments written or said about him in the media for a change and Gillard will disappear into oblivion. The media will give up on her soon, just like they did with Rudd. Oh got to luv the boost in her polls after her overseas trip that Leaders always get. Imagine if she didn’t go overseas.

    • Ryan says:

      02:26pm | 03/05/11

      @nossy: luckily we don’t vote for a PM, what are the primary vote and the two party preferred results you have there nossy? I mean since we don’t vote for a PM, these are the real ones that count right?
      While you are at it, what are the bookies odds on the next election?

    • Tator says:

      10:26am | 04/05/11

      Yet more are dissatisfied with Gillard than with Abbott

    • Shivo says:

      08:14am | 03/05/11

      Important research funding to be cut by the ALP, meanwhile Rudd is flitting around the world funding campaigns irrelevant to Australia.
      Power at any cost…....enough said Joolya

    • jb says:

      08:16am | 03/05/11

      I see you are starting to disbelieve your own propaganda, what no hahaha’s or ‘look here viewers’, ahhhh the writing is on the wall for you and the garbage that spews from your keyboard!
      Little man who hails from the union halls of the old blighty I suspect you are shivering at the thought of eating your own bowler…
      Tony Abbott has you as scared as a juliar rabbit…

    • Harriet says:

      08:30am | 03/05/11

      Peter you better ask Sophie about the latest projects for health from Labor. On qanda last night simon announced the cancer clinic for sophie’s electorate of albury wodonga. Gee fancy Labor spending money in a coalition electorate. Something Sophie couldn’t achieve when Tony was the health minister, in the howard government.

    • Rosie says:

      11:34am | 03/05/11

      Yeah Harriet $65 million for the Cancer Clinic and Sophie thanked Crean. The Labor Govt had better deliver or pay the consquences. I wouldn’t lie to Sophie - she is like a mother hen protecting her chicks. Don’t mess with her!

    • Harriet says:

      01:54pm | 03/05/11

      Poor Rosie, did you even watch last night .The audience, sophie’s electorate laughed at her. Poor, poor Sophie her staffers should be worried. The electorate definitely knew who was delivering to them and it certainly wasn’ t Sophie’s lot.  So yes let her cluck, it is as about as good as she can do.

    • Mattb says:

      02:41pm | 03/05/11

      Yeah, saw that on QandA last night, anyone else notice how cold the reations from the crowd were towards sofie, she was the only panelist that got boo’ed, seems the ‘chicks’ weren’t exactly agreeing with ‘mother hens’ take on things eh Rosie.
      Crean absolutely wiped the floor with her and Tony Windsor had her constituents hanging on his every word. I was waiting for the audience (the largest in QandA history) to lift old Tony onto their shoulders and carry him to the ‘dressing rooms’ footy style at the end of the show. Wouldn’t  have minded seeing the grin on the face of the independent that plans on running for Indi in the next election after watching last nights show.

    • Helen says:

      03:22pm | 03/05/11

      Mattb - crean was an old blubbering fool, he was totally embarassing, always is, always was. The Labor supporters in the audience didn’t take to Sophie saying anything negative about the Government, that’s why they boo’ed.  Did you know Swan was boo’ed everywhere he went in Cairns the other day as well.

    • Harriet says:

      03:37pm | 03/05/11

      Mattb, I hope all Indies were watching, as you say the audience was hanging off Tony Windsor’s words. And he offered sound advice. Funnily the audience reaction didn’t support what journos say is happening in the bush. I hope some of the city journos were watching.

    • Rosie says:

      04:05pm | 03/05/11

      @ Harriet & Mattb

      It was so obvious that the audience ( country folks ) were true to heart country folks got sucked in with any hand out that was told to them by any this big talking Govt. Bear in mind told to them, not yet delivered. As someone twittered; “Good old country people, don’t like Labor but love their policies”

      I can only conclude that Mattb & Harriet have the same mindset as our country cousins.

      Don’t worry, Sophie will not only guttural cluck, she will flap her wings furiously to rid the hot air that suffocated her in that room.

    • Mattb says:

      05:03pm | 03/05/11

      Helen, blubbering old fool you say?, gee, that’s a bit harsh, I thought he spoke well and provided the audience with a very sound message. That is, that rural communities need to start working together at a local level, work out what is needed for their communities, get an action plan together and relay that plan to all levels of government local, state and federal. His underlying message however was a little more sinister and I believe that he and Tony had a game plan before the show, that was to show up the coalition for what it is, a ‘coalition’ between the national and the liberal party’s of australia that has completely forgotten the bush. The liberals don’t give a shit about the bush, the nationals used to but they are now just ‘seats’ for the liberal party in its quest for government. Tony Windsor hinted at this when he discussed the WA nationals and their willingness to negotiate with party’s other than the liberals in WA in order to get better outcomes for the bush. While neither Crean nor Windsor came out and stated it they both were pushing a message across that said a vote for the nationals is a vote for the liberals and a vote for the liberals gives the liberals a voice, not the nationals. The nationals have become the liberal parties lap dogs.

    • Harriet says:

      06:37pm | 03/05/11

      @Rosie
      I am disgusted by the disrepect you have for Regional constituents. I can only hope that this view of her electorate is not shared by Ms Mirabella.

    • Steve Putnam says:

      06:55pm | 03/05/11

      So smokin’ Sophe worries about health issues? If this were true she’d forgo any contact with tobacco companies.

    • Rosie says:

      10:13pm | 03/05/11

      Harriet

      Not all country folks dear Harriet just the rent a crowd mob Simon Crean & the egotistical Tony Windsor rented for the night to show Sophie up. The village people that some how thought they could equate city infrastructure to their region. The village mob that wanted trains, cancer clinics, modern hospitals, flashy school halls etc topped with Windsor’s $45 billon pet project the NBN. The village mob that wants it both ways, the country lifestyle with the city infrastructure.

      Even Woolworths, Hungry Jacks etc won’t build in an area without checking out its population. Not enough people they won’t build. The village mob should get their priorities right - a good hospital serviced by enough doctors and nurses before the NBN.

    • Clayton says:

      08:32am | 03/05/11

      Sydney surgeon Earl Owen led the world in micro-surgery. Noted for being the first to successfully re-attach a finger/thumb ripped off a worker in an industrial accident. He even designed and developed the instruments used. Prince Phillip recognised his value to the commonwealth. The French established a clinic in Lyon for him to teach their surgeons. In Sydney, then Labor Premier Neville Wran closed down the facility in the public hospital where Owen treated public patients.  The Labor/Green culture is a third-world attitude, and that’s just where they are taking Australia.

    • Elphaba says:

      09:16am | 03/05/11

      Is it bad that when looking at the title, I saw “Warning: Labor’s impotence will damage your health”?

      Hehehehe.

      Was the Heliobacter pylori bacterium the one that they found causes stomach ulcers?  Michael Mosely did a program about it, I think it was on the ABC… History of Self Experimentation?  It was very good.  His other one on the history of surgery is great too.

      Lots of money spent on committees to sit around and talk about the problem, with no money being spent on the actual problem.  Business as usual, I see.

      What are the drugs not being listed?

    • Chris L says:

      09:17am | 03/05/11

      “Without long-term policy certainty, it is near impossible to attract private investment and large donations.” - and yet when it comes to resources tax or a carbon price uncertainty is fine… apparently.

    • Chris L says:

      09:17am | 03/05/11

      “Without long-term policy certainty, it is near impossible to attract private investment and large donations.” - and yet when it comes to resources tax or a carbon price uncertainty is fine… apparently.

    • Gladys says:

      10:01am | 03/05/11

      I couldn’t believe they took the independence of the PBS board away. Cabinet is not qualified to make these decisions.

    • Harquebus says:

      11:00am | 03/05/11

      Labor incompetence or Liberal stupidity. We’re doomed.

    • PeterM says:

      11:10am | 03/05/11

      Labor incompetence yes. Liberal stupidity? Thanks to Abbott he has exposed Labors incompetence. Other wise the media would just let it all go under the radar. Well done Abbott and the Libs.

    • Laura says:

      11:24am | 03/05/11

      Liberals aint so stupid my dear, if you believe that then you’ve been listening to incompetent Labor too much.

    • Rosie says:

      11:26am | 03/05/11

      Gillard is back to “talk smart to fool the people” She is on TV now with her full giggle at top gear before answering the questions. We have been warned; “Australians have to live within their means” I thought we were already living within our means and the Govt was supposed to make life a little more comfortable during good economic times. Mark 11 mining boom, the natural resources belongs to the people and therefore should share the profits. If it was the case, Peter Dutton shouldn’t be believed on what he has written.

      Nothing will happen for the people, the Labor Govt is too occupied trying to please the Greens and Independents so as to keep them in power.

    • nossy says:

      12:20pm | 03/05/11

      @Rosie - just saw an interview on ABC24 with Abbott and honestly my girl he needs an “Ummmm ummmm” filter ! 10 words and 30 ummmmms !  hhaahahahah

    • stutterer says:

      12:44pm | 03/05/11

      He has a stutter and handles it well…...... not funny. So do I. GROW UP.

    • Chris L says:

      03:19pm | 03/05/11

      Saying “Ummm” is not a stutter. As a stutterer you should know this, unless you’re a fake looking to generate some outrage.

      Nossy, stop following Rosie around and just pop the question would you?

    • nossy says:

      11:43am | 03/05/11

      Wasnt Tony Abott the failed Health Minister under Johnny Howard Pete ? Oh yes thats right he was !  hahahah Public Health went backwards 40 years under Abbotts dead hand and now you want us to belive all has changed ? God help us Pete - get yourself a good leader and just maybe we will listen to you - the name Malcolmn Turnbull ring a bell fella ?

    • simon says:

      12:33pm | 03/05/11

      Thats because the Libs were trying to pay back $96 billion in debt racked up under the previous Labor government. There had to be cuts somewhere to bring the balance sheet back to a positive state. I guess you forgot about that hey. The whole Labor party are scared shitless of TA, he is slowly but surely exposing Labor’s complete incompetence, something that Turnbull didn’t do. Is that why you support Turnbull, because your shit scared of TA exposing the Labor party for the frauds they are???

    • jf says:

      04:46pm | 03/05/11

      Failed? How exactly?

    • nossy says:

      05:53pm | 03/05/11

      @jf - glad to see you have gotten rid of that dreadful stutter jf !  hahahaah

    • Steve Putnam says:

      07:13pm | 03/05/11

      The very same health minister who gauged $1billion out of the health budget during his tenure. The same minister who decided, prior to the 2007 election that a small regional hospital in Tasmania needed to be run personally by his office with an accompanying $141million injection of funds. Nothing to do with the fact that it was in a marginal electorate of course.
      When Abbott was spruiking his bile for the Democrat Club at Sydney University in the seventies he was of course totally opposed to Medicare, just as he opposed all the reforms of the Whitlam Government. He was a reactionary retard then and he’s actually gotten worse.

    • Ben81 says:

      07:57pm | 03/05/11

      “The very same health minister who gauged $1billion out of the health budget during his tenure.”
      Never mind the fact that to simply say they that as if it even begins to tell the whole story is an outright lie given that health funding actually increased by a huge amount…

    • jf says:

      07:50am | 04/05/11

      jf says: 04:46pm | 03/05/11

      “@jf - glad to see you have gotten rid of that dreadful stutter jf !  hahahaah”

      How ironic Nossy, that you respresent the side of politics that purports to be tolerant, progressive, open-minded and informed.

    • Tator says:

      10:36am | 04/05/11

      Regarding the so called $1 billion ripped out of health, consider these facts:
      Howard Government Health Care Agreements actually increased federal public hospital funding from $7.1 billion in 2002-03 to $9.8 billion in 2007-08.
      Labor portrays this $2.7 billion increase in funding as a $1 billion ‘‘rip-off’’ because the increase was not as large as Treasury and the Finance Department had originally expected.
      Every year Treasury compiles a Budget which estimates government revenues and expenses for the next four years.
      Back in 2002, Treasury’s forward estimates had put federal public hospital funding for the four years from 2003-04 to 2006-07 at $33.5 billion. When the Howard Government finalised the Health Care Agreements, the actual funding for those four years turned out to be $32.6 billion.
      That $900 million reduction in the actual funding as compared to the original forward estimates is the source of Labor’s billion dollar rip-off figure.
      So Labor’s claim that Abbott ripped a billion dollars out of health funding is only true in the sense that if your boss intimates that he will give you a $3,000 salary increase next year, but then only gives you a $2,900 increase, he has ripped you off by $100.
      How do the Howard and Rudd Governments compare on public hospital funding?
      Over the five years from 2002-03 to 2007-08 the Howard Government increased grants to the states for public hospitals by 37 per cent or an average of 7.4 per cent a year in nominal terms.
      In real terms that amounted to 3 per cent a year (after taking account of inflation in healthcare costs as calculated by the Australian Institute of Health and Welfare). As a share of the economy, federal grants for public hospitals declined marginally from 0.89 per cent of gross domestic product in 2003-04 to 0.86 per cent in 2007-08.
      The Rudd Government has introduced a new five-year hospital funding deal for the states which runs from 2008-09 to 2012-13.
      Direct comparisons with the Howard Government’s last five-year deal are complicated because the Rudd Government has combined public hospital grants with some other health-related grants to the States to create a single new National Healthcare grant.
      But these National Healthcare grants were worth $10.5 billion in 2008-09 and will increase to $13.9 billion by the end of the current five-year deal in 2012-13. That represents an increase of 42 per cent or an annual average increase of 8.4 per cent in nominal terms (outstripping the average annual increase of 7.4 per cent under the Howard Government).
      In addition to these increases, the Rudd Government has also channelled extra payments to the States to carry out a ‘‘blitz’’ to reduce patient waiting times for elective surgery.
      Yet with all this extra funding for elective surgery, waiting times are starting to increase again
      http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/health/elective-surgery-waiting-times-climb-again/story-fn59nokw-1226046551591

    • Holly says:

      01:15pm | 03/05/11

      Gladys I seem to recall Tony Abbott trying to make political mileage over the availability of RU486 - so when did he change his spots.

    • Watcher says:

      01:42pm | 03/05/11

      I am a Labor voter, who not be voting for them again BUT there is no way I would vote for Abbott, I will just put in a donkey vote if he is the leader. He comes off as aggressive and a bully, and bullies should never be rewarded. On the hand if you have some like M Turnbull as the leader, I might be tempted to vote his way. He is a pleasant man who knows how to smile and he sure is not so aggressive. I dislike Labor’s attacks on the poor, they have people begging in the streets like in India, but Abbott is just as bad if not worse. Makes you long for Howard, I can’t even believe I am saying that

    • simon says:

      03:33pm | 03/05/11

      If you want to get rid of Gillard you will have to vote for Abbott. All this negative perception people have of TA is fuelled by Labor’s relentless campaign to attack the man and not the policy. It seems you may have fallen for it. TA is a much more courageous and intelligent leader than Turnbull. Gillard is nothing but a lying dictator. Tony Abbott will be our next PM.

    • Jesse says:

      03:37pm | 03/05/11

      This sort of comment must be trotted out at least 3 times a day on here, more than likely by the same person. The old “there BOTH bad “I’ve voted Labor all me life, but hate them and can’t vote for that Abbott bloke either” but i’d vote for that Turnbull fella….
      Who ya trying to kid? Talk to the “hand”
      Abbotts a bully and agressive? Is that it?
      And then you finish up with the old “makes you long for Howard, I can’t believe I’m saying that. Oh Please…......................................................

    • Richard says:

      08:49pm | 03/05/11

      Watcher~ you’ve been drinking too much of that Kool-Aid that’s being pedaled by the bien pensant left-wing elitists.

      “Oh” they wail, “what a horrible man Tony Abbott is, if only that nice Malcolm Turnbull chappy could become Liberal leader again, then all the problems in the world would be sold”.

      Its all bullshit Watcher: Abbott is fine. Anyway~ you don’t vote for the leader, you vote for the party. If you think Turnbull is such a great politician, then vote Liberal. There’s every chance if the Libs win back government that Turnbull will challenge again for the leadership at some stage.

      Its just a cop out to fall back on the default position of loathing Abbott, I mean, unless he poisoned your dog and slept with his wife (which he wouldn’t, because he’s actually a decent bloke).

      What did he ever do to you? Nothing, you’ve just bought the trendoid leftist propaganda hook-line-and-sinker, and the political discourse in Australia is poorer for all the unthinking drones like you Watcher who just line up like conformist sheeple to swallow everything the media and academia snobs are trying to sell you.

    • Against the Man says:

      08:56pm | 03/05/11

      Gillard is against you and laughing at you.

      If you haven’t figured it out you are her perfect victim.

      A Gillard supporter is voluntary screwing themselves over!

      RE: Check with ex-,millionaire PM Ruddy!

    • Tojo says:

      01:49pm | 03/05/11

      Good for you Peter Dutton, keep it coming. Don’t allow the Australian people to become complacement and those the likes of Nossy, Holly to be smug of how this government is only good for wasting our money because they are incapable of delivering anything for the people.

    • BJA says:

      03:49pm | 03/05/11

      Abboott is much better at scaremongering than you Peter!

    • Marrickvillain says:

      03:58pm | 03/05/11

      Oh puh-lease. The Howard government did exactly the same thing to the PBS, Here’s a 2005 AAP report about a plan penned by then health minister Tony Abbott to take $850 million out of the PBS budget: http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-116026554.html. I also recall an analysis by Alan Ramsey of the SMH that mapped PBS spending under Howard to the electoral cycle. In non-election years, it was tightened. Then in election years, up it went as a lure for the gray vote.
      Don’t treat us like fools with short memories, Dutton

    • jg says:

      06:21pm | 04/05/11

      The Gillard government is out of it’s depth full stop. Witness the latest fiasco with Chris Bowen and the homemade incendiary device discovered at Villawood detention centre.

      Completely and utterly incompetent.

    • Craig says:

      10:41pm | 04/05/11

      Good article and it’s good to see the Coalition against these cutbacks.

      I have emailed you before Peter about a medicine I need to be listed on the PBS and you said essentially it is an independent process from Government.

      But this from the Gillard government completely shatters that excuse of independence. If the process was truly independent, the medicines that were deemed effective by the PBAC wouldn’t even need approval from Government - they would just be listed.

      It is shameful that the government is proposing to cut funding in this hugely important area when they are spending millions on things like housing illegal immigrants, foreign aid and other programs which could be easily cutback during a time like this.

    • Greg says:

      09:06am | 18/05/12

      Speaking of labour incompetence killing us I noticed the controversial airport scanners are coming in shortly - and guess what? We have no right to a pat down (i.e. we are forced into the machines basically).  The justification that labour put forward was that if people could opt out tax payer money would be wasted because they have already bought the machines - nice one idiots - yet against labour ramming BS policy down our throats.

 

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