The more air-headed exponents of social media have had a busy time of it this week, trying to transform Melbourne comedian Catherine Deveny into a cause celebre for the anti-censorship cause.

Catherine Deveny, looking edgy and street. Photo: David Geraghty

Meanwhile, on the other side of the planet, all the hoopla about the British poll being “the first twitter election” has evaporated as the campaign has turned on the work of traditional journalism and conventional public discourse.

It hasn’t been a great week for social media. Despite its many benefits – sharing content with like-minded people, engaging in conversation about topics of mutual interest – two of its key limitations have been laid bare by these unrelated events.

The first is that it is often hijacked by blowhards such as Deveny with nothing of value to say. The second is that it lacks the structure and rigour to replace conventional journalism as a source of news. It can augment it – sometimes brilliantly – but it will not replace it. In the case of the British election you could argue that it doesn’t necessarily augment it very well.

Let’s start with the Deveny case. It’s unlikely that Deveny will become the new pin-up girl for Australia’s Right to know campaign, nor the subject of an international letter-writing campaign by Amnesty International.

Deveny’s supporters have tried to position their twittering comic heroine as the victim of big media, following her dumping by The Age over her string of stream-of-consciousness gags on Logie night.

She is, of course, no such thing. She was only employed by The Age as a contributor, not as a member of staff, meaning her continuing presence on its pages was always subject to the discretion of the editor of the day.

She is actually a victim of the heartening mainstream conviction that, for all the giggly tosh that’s spouted about the edgy new world of social media, manners still count for something.

The Age was in no way leading the campaign against their well-read columnist, or initiating the public outrage over her Logie Night tweets. Rather, The Age was responding to that outrage, and acted to stem a backlash against the masthead.

Deveny was brought down by two tweets – which, for the uninitiated, are messages of 140 characters or less posted to the wider world via the Twitter website.

The first involved Steve Irwin’s 11-year-old daughter Bindi – “I do so hope that Bindi Irwin gets laid tonight”. I have to admit to briefly sniggering in amazement at this deeply offensive gag, as it did seem based in a valid comical observation about this child starlet being cursed to live out a strange life on the public stage.

That said, it was massively tasteless, and Deveny was mad to write it. But it was nowhere near as tasteless as her vile second tweet, where she expressed hope that the new partner of Rove McManus “doesn’t die too”, in a sick reference to the death of the TV star’s wife Belinda Emmett from cancer just a few years ago.

The explanations from Deveny and her cheer squad have been dissembling, and often just plain dumb.

On the Rove tweet, Deveny held her hand to her heart and said she had worked with McManus for years and would never do anything to offend him, as it to suggest that Rove would not only not be offended but possibly even entertained by public gags at the expense of his late wife.

The broader justification Deveny mounted for her conduct was that the whole thing was some kind of zany mix-up, that Twitter was the equivalent of “passing notes in class”, and that she regarded her statements as akin to jokes among friends. It’s a rubbish excuse, Twitter is just another form of publishing, it is a wholly public domain, one used by more than 50 million people worldwide.

Fifty million people can’t be wrong, but they can also be no more informed than they would otherwise have been about a major news event such as the British election by using social media sites such as Facebook or Twitter

Screeds of copy were written in advance of the British poll about how social media was now so well-established that it would become the dominant vehicle for policy debate and political scandal throughout the campaign.

The opposite has proven to be true.

The defining feature of this election has been the rise of the Liberal-Democrats. At the time of writing this column, voting had not yet started in the British poll, but all the indicators were that the Lib-Dems could win around one third of the vote. This extraordinary surge by this formerly irrelevant political force reflects widespread voter disenchantment with the major parties, and the biggest driver of that was the series of exclusives by London’s Daily Telegraph exposing the entrenched rorts culture which had infected large sections of both the Labour Party and the Tories.

The newspaper’s sustained campaign on this issue shattered the defeatist myth that the print media can no longer drive up circulation because of the rise of online. It was a great story and it sold like hotcakes, and the issues it raised have endured for the better part of two years.

Also, this has been the first British election which has featured a leaders’ debate. Every British voter with access to a television – that is, pretty much all of them – could for the first time see Gordon Brown, David Cameron and Nick Clegg going head-to-head and draw their own conclusions about what they had seen, and discuss it with family and friends over the coming days. Again, very old-fashioned stuff, but an enormous factor in Clegg’s success in establishing himself as a credible leader.

It was the power of television and audio which ensnared Prime Minister Brown in an appalling mid-campaign stuff-up where he was caught on tape deriding an elderly lady voter as a bigot and denouncing an advisor for sending him into an unscripted encounter with the great unwashed.

All of these things have been discussed at length and with vigour on social media sites, which is great, but in every case the conversation has been led by the work of traditional news organisations.

And those of us who still get a kick out the arcane art of leader writing have been thrilled to see that even the publication by The Guardian of its first-ever editorial backing the Liberal-Democrats has itself become a news story.

You can tweet all you like, and update your Facebook status with glee, but you should do so in the knowledge that it might actually leave you feeling more offended and less informed than when you got out of bed in the morning.

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    • BullClip says:

      07:40am | 08/05/10

      Deveny kept going out of her way to be outrageous.  She intentionally sought to draw attention to herself by being offensive and then protest “Hey I’m on the cutting edge”.  What the half wit discovered was the cutting edge can also cut.

      For mine she was just a rude cow.

    • Darryl Price says:

      09:27am | 08/05/10

      ...with a good face for twitter.

    • AntiMajorMistakes or Others Man. says:

      12:26pm | 08/05/10

      @ BullClip, all that fauxmanistas in comedy, politics, bureaucracy, journalism have ever proven, is that they can be just as rude, crude & ignorant as any male chauvinist pig allegedly was.

      Having said that i don’t mind if idiots are talking rubbish on Twitt er, facebook, the punch, or anywhere else, even if it is offensive. We live in a dumocracy, where everybody has the right to embarass themselves in public.

      As long as there is not too much foul language or links to kiddy porn sites. Then let the debate rage.

      Some people can get a bit of anger out of their system without physically assaulting anybody, great. Sensible people can see that, respond accordingly & hopefully we can all learn something.

      @ Penbo, great article, its good to see the return of real, hard edged, investigative journalism. Those idiots from the red/green/getup/labour coalition who have been alleging that News Ltd is biased against them, should have a good look at News Ltd’s coverage of the British elections.

      Plenty of pressure applied to the Tories as well as labour.

      The Brisbane, Courier Mail has also applied plenty of blow torch to the LNP over the 2 defections & their poor performance as an opposition.

      Keep up the good work.

      regards the former snag & swinging voter

    • Joan says:

      12:32pm | 08/05/10

      Cyberbully gathering like minded

    • Sahara says:

      08:58am | 08/05/10

      The problem with twitter is that it provides a direct link between your brain and the rest of the world. I don’t know how many actual thoughts I have in a day but I’d suggest it would be in the thousands. The number you’d find particularly interesting would be approximately zero.

      It’s all a matter of possessing a filter. We’ve all met people. and then attempt to avoid, who appear to have an irresistible urge to share just about everything that comes into their head. These people don;t have a filter and in their hands Twitter is a loaded gun.

      Thinking that you hope an 11 year old girl gets laid is a dumb thought. However having dumb thoughts doesn’t make you dumb. I’m sure Einstein had lots of them. We usually have filters that tell us this is a dumb thought so we automatically dismiss it and move on to the next one.

      What makes you dumb is sharing that thought with the person sitting next to you on the lounge.

      What makes you spectacular dumb is sharing that dumb thought with the rest of the world via twitter.

      Deveny appears to have lots of dumb thoughts (this was her third twitter debacle in a couple of weeks) that’s she incapable of filtering so she makes the spectacularly dumb mistake of using that twitter link between her brain and the rest of the world. She now learning that there are consequences to not using that filter.

    • Random says:

      09:13am | 08/05/10

      Interesting too that a lot of the useful/interesting tweets about the UK election actually originate from the mainstream media ie. journalists tweeting on the road or ppl attaching links to the newspaper article… as has historically been the case old media is the first to jump on the new media bandwagon.

    • Paul2 says:

      09:34am | 08/05/10

      Twitter, Facebook, Myspace etc.  What makes you and your opinions so important that the whole world has to hear about it.

    • Steely Dan says:

      10:53am | 10/05/10

      @Paul2

      Whatever makes you and your opinions so important that the whole world has to hear about it via the medium that is the Punch comments section?

      So people have opinions, observations, ideas, jokes, agendas, brain-snaps, verbal diahorrea and loose tongues.  What’s new?  To be honest I’d rather the loonies blurt their nonsense in an arena where they can be told frankly and honestly that they’re wrong.  If we’re lucky, some of them might end up being a bit more reasonable.  Let them ramble, I say.  Nobody’s forcing you to listen.

    • Jasmine says:

      11:04am | 08/05/10

      Deveny has always been a disgusting piece of work. For the life of me I cannot understand how anybody could defend her. It seems elements of the lunatic left are keen to defend anyone on ‘their side’ no matter how ugly their behaviour.

    • nicholas puiu says:

      11:20am | 08/05/10

      Deveny was the Brendan Fevola of the media. Conversely Penbo, look at the meaningless tweets you and the gang turn out when one of you posts a story. Quite irrelevant when all people need to do is check the main site. What is it exactly that new media is contributing here?

    • Kevin Rennie says:

      11:22am | 08/05/10

      Join a real web conversation at Global Voices Citizen Media Summit. Twitter #gv2010
      The world is speaking.

    • Brad Price says:

      12:38pm | 08/05/10

      The problem is not Twitter, the media or any other 3rd party. It is Deveny herself. She made the comments, she made them in her name. She has morale and ethical responsibities to herself and any business or group that she represents.
      Catherine made an error in judgement and she has paid the price. Simple.

      I never found her particularly funny anyway. I guess i’m justified by this latest outburst.

    • Chris says:

      06:29pm | 08/05/10

      I have to agree.

      It’s not like she’s said anything overly intelligent in the past…even in old media.

      I’d read her columns and cringe. I cringed when she told Abbott on ABC1s Q&A to “Get your rosaries off my ovaries”.

      Her problem is also that she’s not funny. Wil Anderson also got some flack over some Twitter posts from The Logies…but he is funny, most of the time.

    • BTS says:

      01:29pm | 08/05/10

      Choose your behaviour, choose your consequences.

    • Peter says:

      05:49pm | 09/05/10

      The problem is that Deveny is one of those people deluded by the scourge of modern society. The firm belief that there should be NO consquences for what they do or say. Ever.

      Since the incident, many of her supporters have been complaining that her freedom of speech has been taken away. But no-one has cancelled her Twitter account. She hasn’t disappeared into a gulag. And no-one has sewn her lips shut or removed her typing fingers. Her freedom of speech is intact. The Age however has simply said that she may no longer use their resources to disseminate her views. That is the consequence of what she said.

      In other words, you may have the freedom to insult my mother but the consequence of that is that I’m going to punch you in the face for it.

      Those that are screaming about freedom of speech are not supporting it at all. They are only supporting their belief that anyone should be able to say whatever they like, to anyone they like, no matter how offensive and get away with it scott free.

    • John says:

      01:42pm | 08/05/10

      I didn’t like every thing she did, but I liked atheist bite on the bum of the religious. Sadly we will have less bite now.

    • Andrew says:

      06:46pm | 09/05/10

      If her main claim to fame is being offensive to Christians, then maybe she doesn’t belong on mainstream media any more than the cartoons with no purpose other than to offend Islam. I don’t want to declare any topic off limits for humour, as long as it IS humour. The Rove “joke” didn’t appear to meet any definition of that. 

      Incidentally, I read her website. When asked to nominate someone for a punch in the face, 90% of readers said “Tony Abbott.” That suggests she’s not catering to a diverse market either.

    • Kirstin says:

      02:06pm | 08/05/10

      I think Twitter is like passing notes in class. You only follow the people you want to, you can stop following anyone at any time, so you only receive notes from friends and can ignore notes from anyone you want. The media publishing Tweets is like the teacher intercepting the notes and reading them aloud.

    • Jack says:

      01:53pm | 09/05/10

      Kristen when you pass a note in class you’re not passing it to hundreds of thousands of people. Furthermore anyone could read the post, you did not have to be following her, so it was public content.

    • Kirstin says:

      02:17am | 10/05/10

      Yes, it was public content, but in order to find it you would have to check out what she had been Twittering. You would either have to be following her, checking her account, or have someone re-Tweeting at you. Or, you know, you could read it in the paper. It’s not like you open Firefox and oops, there it is all over the internet and completely unavoidable.  Theoretically, anyone could intercept and read a note being passed around. Re-Tweeting counts as showing the note to your friends who aren’t necessarily friends with the original writer.

      I think the comparison still stands.

      I’m not defending what she wrote, they were tasteless, unfunny comments. I get that people were offended, but that happens sometimes in life. Especially on the internet. GIFT and all that.

    • Nick says:

      03:12pm | 08/05/10

      ” The Age was responding to that outrage, and acted to stem a backlash against the masthead.”

      Yep. Reactionary tabloid rubbish. That’s Fairfax these days. They were more than happy to poor petrol on the fire.

    • David Robinson says:

      03:49pm | 08/05/10

      You have got to wonder how many buttons Deveny was pushing,the absolute avalanche of vitriole directed at her in it self is a topic worthy of dissection.Much I have read is every bit as nasty as her comments were perceived to be.

    • Brad Price says:

      11:42pm | 08/05/10

      Look David your entirely correct. I mean, how unfortunate for her that she has been hit by a truck this week. But on the other hand fortunately for her it hasn’t damaged her looks for radio!

    • neil says:

      05:27pm | 08/05/10

      Why do people refer to her as a comedian? The only thing laughable about her is that she thinks she’s funny.

      Most of the time she’s just spiteful and nasty.

    • Jennie says:

      05:48pm | 09/05/10

      I can’t get into that crusty, corny and cheesy ‘humour’.  It runs riot in the Sunday papers, particulary in the inserts. That is where I first saw Wil Andersons ‘work’. Nah, not for me. Give me dry humour any day.

    • Dan says:

      06:22am | 10/05/10

      A family friend saw her perform stand-up once. She wasn’t impressed at all.

    • Julian Thomas says:

      08:22pm | 08/05/10

      it “use to be a female virtue” to transfer anger and pain into greater expressive love, with females like this and the rise of female on children sexual abuse, venus pedos etc it has been transfered into hate, anger, and lack of resposibility, pity this “one” world

    • Steve_of_Cornubia says:

      10:57pm | 08/05/10

      If one is offended by a journo who contributes to a paper/site that you like to read, going elsewhere is a poor option, so complaining about him/her seems like the sensible thing to do and, if enough people complain often enough, then the paper/site has to decide whether it wants to offend a substantial proportion of its readers. Most sensible editors would dump the writer rather than suffer loss of readers.

      Deveny seems to me to be a spiteful person who gets her kicks by shocking people she doesn’t like, which appears to be 95% of the population. Like many other ‘comedians’ these days, she enjoyed being ‘on the edge’, but an edge is only an edge if it’s possible to fall off it.

    • TC says:

      12:49pm | 09/05/10

      Personally, I blame the SouthPark for idiots like Deveny, Will Anderson, Kyle whoever etc.  The difference is that SP is clever and has dimensions to its humour. The idiot however thinks it’s the potty humour that is the funny bit and then spouts a heap of abuse at soft targets expecting us all to be awed by their wit and depth of perception in the way SP is praised.

    • BTS says:

      03:53pm | 09/05/10

      What’s Twitter?

    • Stiffy says:

      12:16pm | 10/05/10

      Its seems to be a thing that twits do. Thanks BTS

    • Jac says:

      04:55pm | 09/05/10

      She is a disgrace and should be absolutely ashamed of herself, but i bet she isnt. Good on The Age for acting when they did.

    • Daniel says:

      06:47pm | 09/05/10

      Facebook is bad enough.Why would any dope use Twiter for? People have seriously got too much time on their hands.

    • Andrew says:

      06:51pm | 09/05/10

      Ironically, when interviewed Deveny said of Sam Newman
      “I’ve never stoushed with him; just railed against him. He’s a bully, a misogynist, a megalomaniac and a vain opportunist. The extent of his exposure and his popularity normalises offensive and sexist behaviour which is reinforced by the pigs in suits who laugh at him.”

    • Tim says:

      06:54pm | 09/05/10

      There is a fine line between black humour and just plain offensive. Unfortuentely Deveny neither carries the brain power or the talent to see this line. What disappoints me the most is that someone who is prone to make such idiotic statements has enough followers on Twitter that it gets public attention.

    • Richard Ryan says:

      07:41pm | 09/05/10

      How many crooks, and liars, wife -beaters have we on this site?

    • Leo says:

      08:17pm | 09/05/10

      Huh, I didn’t even realise she was a comedian. I’ve never seen any humour in her work.

    • Will says:

      11:18pm | 09/05/10

      I find it striking that someone who claims Deveny’s remarks were “vile” has no problems republishing those comments, in full, to an audience orders of magnitude greater than Deveny’s meagre Twitter following.

    • Rupert says:

      01:27am | 10/05/10

      Not all Deveny’s remarks were republished.  The K.D. Lang comment was too crass to print, so its slipped by unrecognised

    • BaSH PR0MPT says:

      01:35am | 10/05/10

      I’ll be honest. I kind of vagued out at about the 140 character mark and didn’t read the rest of this article. Sorry man. :(

      @bashpr0mpt

    • bunny says:

      06:16am | 10/05/10

      @ David

      This is the first time I have read your work, and I could not get past the first few paragraphs of tripe you spew. If anyone is hijacking modern media to spread their uneducated opinions, it is you David. You are more of a blowhard than any Australian alive today. Have you ever considered a life of politics? Maybe Family First have low enough standards to accept you as a member?

      Deveny can stand proud when morons like yourself are attacking her.

    • Alex says:

      07:10am | 10/05/10

      I can’t see any comedy in her, I don’t find her funny. To me shes just a very rude and ill mannered woman. Whats funny about that?

    • Pkd says:

      09:34am | 10/05/10

      God this is turning into some sort of let’s crucify the Jesus lynch mob…And pretty funny, all coming from News Ltd, the blinged up media company that is to tight to afford it’s own satirist or cartoonist?


      Yep you guys are experts on funny!

    • Scarlett Street Rocker says:

      11:05am | 10/05/10

      What’s with this “Lunatic left ” nonsense. We , fortunatley live in a democracy.
      Having said that I have nothing but sympathy for the poor thing, so very, very angry with her lot that she thinks it’s well and truly hidden in her sad exc use for “comedy”.

    • stu says:

      11:55am | 10/05/10

      Twitter = Bonfire of the Banalities

    • Numbers Brenden says:

      03:49pm | 21/07/11

      I really like your wp internet template, where did you get a hold of it?

 

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