As the trucks thunder into Canberra, or try to, it appears they have been blocked somewhere short of Parliament House.


It’s not yet clear why they were blocked, but Alan Jones has just called it “the most disgraceful thing that has ever been done to democracy” and “a total corruption of the democratic process”. Meanwhile, Bronwyn Bishop said “we have a government that is not legitimate”.

With all due respect to Australia’s most popular broadcaster and one of our most senior politicians, those claims are way over the top. They simply don’t have the right to make them. But there are some people on the streets of Libya this morning who do.

Last week, on the news site news.com.au, savvy journalists Peter Farquhar and Simon Black drew a brilliant comparison between the problems in London during the riots and the problems in the Horn of Africa.

While today’s truck convoy in Canberra carries with it a raft of perfectly legitimate and pressing concerns, it’s hard to take them seriously on a morning when one of the world’s longest-serving unelected murderers is on the verge of being turfed out by his people. And really, it’s hard to take them seriously at all.

There is something romantic about truckies which the public can’t resist. When an outbreak of truckie movies occurred in the 1970s, people flocked to cinemas. More recently, the reality show Ice Road truckers is a triumph of the genre.

But today’s truck convoy is, frankly, just another big sook from a disparate array of small interest groups, all of whom are lumping their individual gripes under a banner loosely titled “Gillard government incompetence”.

That’s not to argue that this government is even vaguely competent or electable. It isn’t. It is a rabble worthy of the Australian cricket selection panel, which was mercifully disbanded this week, as our government will be at the next election.

Also, the fact that we have relatively low unemployment and have dodged the worst of the world’s economic woes is almost certainly good luck, rather than the government’s good management.

May I respectfully urge those who would accuse this column of left wing bias to read the above two paragraphs again. Thank you.

The point is, the great protest movements of the world always have one or two clearly-defined gripes. In the case of Libya today, it’s a murderous dictator the people are desperate to overthrow. In the trucking movie Convoy, it was corrupt cops. A cool leader at the wheel, in the form of Kris Kristofferson, only helped the cause.

Today’s truck convoy has no leader, because it has no clearly-defined cause.

It’s called the “Convoy of No Confidence”, but somewhere out there in the crowd there is probably a banner which reads: “Australians united in their general disgruntlement about, you know, a whole bunch of different stuff which we’re blaming the government for.”

Australians are perfectly entitled to express their disgruntlement, or their gruntlement, or whatever feelings they like, about the government. Despite what Bishop and Jones said today, that’s one of the features of our democracy, and something Libyans have been denied for too long.

But when a truckie and a fish and chip owner and a high country cattleman all roll in under the same banner with wildly different complaints about different issues, well… that’s kind of like the first line of a bad joke.

The joke’s even more sick when you shift your view to the other aside of the world, where real people have some exceptionally real problems, and are being shot at for expressing them.

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    • Que says:

      12:48pm | 22/08/11

      Well, you’ve just outlined in fine detail while much of Australia is angry. There are real issues out there. People are hurting and barely making ends meet. Much of the pain has been caused by the ineptitude of this minority government and the one before it.

      Instead of listening and understanding you just trot out the standard ALP/leftist line that they are ‘sooks’, ‘crazy’, or just plain misguided.

      It is you, sir, who is the sook. But I guess you already knew that.

    • Kika says:

      12:58pm | 22/08/11

      Not really. There are people in the world with REAL issues, like the Libyans, like the Somali, like the Syrians… yet these clowns want to drive around endlessly in Canberra to prove what?  We all know that a carbon price is inevitable so all they are doing is creating more carbon and who’ll end up paying for it? Them. Clowns.

    • PW says:

      01:16pm | 22/08/11

      Whinge whinge whinge. Australia is the whinging capital of the world.

      If people are barely making ends meet they are by definition living beyond their means. Our economy is the envy of the world.

      Unfortunately, because we have sent so much of our manufacturing overseas, there are adjustments that need to be made. Our standard of living is too high. The entire western world has this problem, most of it much worse than us. Those who are prepared to adjust to the changing times will do fine. Those who aren’t can only whinge.

    • JC says:

      01:20pm | 22/08/11

      Looks like you just can’t win, Ant

    • Ben says:

      01:30pm | 22/08/11

      PW is right, we are doing extremely well, and the fact that some people can equate this to the government doing a bad job is a sign of their own lack of a logical thought process.

    • Nilbog says:

      01:44pm | 22/08/11

      @ Kika

      Libyans, Somalis and Syrians aren’t Australians so they don’t count.

    • JohnB says:

      01:44pm | 22/08/11

      When the left nutters compare us to Libya, do they consider that almost all of the worlds problems are due to horrendous over population?

      If we shared our wealth with the rest of the world, it’d be shared so thinly it’d make zero difference. AND…if it did, there’d simply be more population to deal with….Global population grows at 80 million EXTRA people a year….

      Yes, whinging about a carbon tax is a bit much while the rest of the world struggles to feed itself…BUT….How exactly is a carbon tax going to fix anything? It’s not. The government is dithering while the planet literally falls apart….

      It is Australians that will soon be struggling to feed themselves if we don’t soon get some sensible policies that reduce our population and protect our national wealth.

    • Que says:

      01:48pm | 22/08/11

      Well, I guess that’s the new tactic then. Because Libya is falling or there is a famine in Africa or there are riots in the UK the Australian people are not allowed to protest about Australian issues. More cheap guilt at play.

      I guess if it was Getup you would be championing their protests as enlightened thoughtful expressions of the populace of a democratic country.

    • Thomas Anderson says:

      01:54pm | 22/08/11

      When it’s in London, it’s “riots”, when it’s in Libya it’s “protests”.

    • Pat says:

      02:53pm | 22/08/11

      Anthony Sharwood
      So I guess it is ok for some tree hugging lefty morons to protest, climb buildings and bridges unfurling posters but not ok for average Australians to protest against a government that has no right to govern who stole the election by doing dodgy deals with greens and some self interested morons…

      Your as bad as that socialist Bob Brown whose green party protests against everything but when average Australians protest against him and his idiot policies he starts ranting and raving demanding the press is controlled, protesters are extremists etc etc. 

      Sooner the Greens Labor government is gone the better.

      By the way the only reason we survived the world GFC is because the Coalition set aside money for the future and paid off Labors debts, labor has now placed us once again into debt and spent the savings…  So no more lies from you and Green/Labor twit…

    • Shawry says:

      03:46pm | 22/08/11

      What is the thrust of this article? Because somewhere in the world things are really bad, we shouldn’t complain about what is bad here? Isn’t that just like arguing that we shouldn’t complain that a thief hasn’t been caught, because there is a murderer who hasn’t been caught and that is worse, so shut up about the thief. This is a complaint about an incompetent government. Why should they not protest together. The groups complaining about inadequate sentencing don’t have to be broken up into categories of offender do they?

    • Fred Nihil says:

      05:19pm | 22/08/11

      Indeed, Que, indeed. Lots of white people have lots of white people problems.

      The thing is, if all of them went ignored, nothing would happen and we’d all be fine.

    • Mattb says:

      06:38pm | 22/08/11

      @que

      “People are hurting and barely making ends meet. Much of the pain has been caused by the ineptitude of this minority government and the one before it.”

      Pfft, absolute rubbish, do idiots like you read the crap you write before you post it, you whinger. The only people hurting and barely making ends meet in this country are those that choose to live beyond their means. And their first response to their uncontrolled consumerism is to blame the easiest target, the government. It’s always the same people. You know the ones. They blame the government claiming ‘it’s revenue raising’ when they BREAK THE LAW and get caught speeding, like it was the government pushing down their accelerator pedal. They buy big gas guzzling SUV’s, then moan about petrol prices. They leave their lights on, massive flat screen tv’s and computers on standby, take long hot showers, use the heater instead of putting on a jumper then blame the government for their huge electricity/water bill. Take out a mortgage on a house bigger than they need without considering future interest rates and blame the government when they rise. Have children without factoring in the cost then expect their fellow taxpayer and the government to foot the bill. This list could go on but you get the picture.

      THE PAIN IS SELF INFLICTED, blaming the government is a fuckin ridiculous cop out used by the selfish and weak. There are a lot of people in this country that need to start taking responsibility for their actions. Are you one of them?...

    • Rae says:

      06:38pm | 22/08/11

      I couldn’t care less what happens or doesn’t happen in another country but what Gillard is doing to Australia is going to hurt and is already hurting everyday Aussies. Ask one of the 1000 steeel workers losing their jobs or one of the 1000’s of other Aussies who have lost their jobs so far this year whether or not they care about Libya. My guess is they only care how they are going to keep themselves and their families off the streets you pack of overpriviledged latte sipping morons who obviously don’t live in the real world in our so called lucky country.

    • Geez... says:

      06:48pm | 22/08/11

      Your patronising comments that the government is incompetent is simply sickening .Next time a greenie hangs from the Opera House or union thugs try to smash their way into Parliament house….will you reproduce this article…..no way known. Real Australians have had a gutful of the media, just as they have with your beloved Labor party. If you were really fair dinkum, you would repeat this BS while standing face to face with one of the truckies….I would pay good money to witness the result.

    • Brian says:

      07:41pm | 22/08/11

      It’s interesting - these poor people are so desparately struggling that they are able to make a long, unpaid trip in high fuel consumption vehicles to make a point. I completely agree with the idea the the government is incompetent (haven’t voted labor yet), but really - if you can spend that long away from work, chances are you’re not doing to desparately poorly.

    • Bruce says:

      10:19pm | 22/08/11

      Truckie’s: Just about the only true Australians ! Unlike our communist hybrid incompetent government.

    • hills man says:

      10:24pm | 23/08/11

      Just how are people hurting que? how are they just getting to make ends meet?...well maybe if the desperation class stopped paying to much for the oversized homes, buying the huge plasmas, and just living beyond their means ..there wouldn’t be to much to complain about,,,and besides the only complaints are coming from rural hicks or dopey lib voters who still sook about losing an election because their dopey leader doesn’t know how to negotiate.

      in reality if you want to really face it, this govt is not that bad..its done more good for this country than in 4 yrs than howard ever did…
      So people its time to stop listening to the sad and pathetic shock jocks of 2gb and 2ue..and their pathetic followers like ackerman, bolt and devine and get out and enjoy life…dont live beyond your means and youll be right

    • Potato says:

      12:51pm | 22/08/11

      Seriously…

      The most remarkable piece of information in this article is that you know what Alan Jones says…

      Seriously

      NO, seriously

       

      you listen to Alan Jones???!!


      Wha…?

       

      Who cares what the biggoted old idiot says!

    • Marcus says:

      01:20pm | 22/08/11

      I heard Alan Jones’ butler David was driving a rig this morning ??

    • michael j says:

      08:58pm | 22/08/11

      i heard they stopped for a toilet break,,,no camera’s please,,,

    • Tim says:

      12:53pm | 22/08/11

      They weren’t blocked,
      the organisers, with police had arranged for the trucks to do a drive around Capital circle and then be bussed in for the protest.
      They didn’t want all the trucks and cars causing traffic hazards and blocking roads around Parliament house.
      This was organised last week so I don’t know why Alan Jones is so shocked about it now. Faux outrage is so wonderful.

    • real says:

      02:34pm | 22/08/11

      Alan Jones said the trucks were stopped at the ACT border and weren’t allowed to enter which is a lie.  What a bloody hypocrite.

    • Will says:

      03:46pm | 22/08/11

      I think that was just Jonesy’s way of pretending that the numbers of protesters came even remotely close to the masses he was expecting (hoping) would attend.

      Sounds like the whole thing was a bit of a fizzer.

    • Andy says:

      04:52pm | 22/08/11

      Jones is a blithering idiot. Case in point.

    • TomZ says:

      12:23pm | 23/08/11

      Gawd, you leftie drones are starting to go into a drivel mantra comfort cycle.  “Yeah, yeah, Alan Jones.”, “Yeah, yeah, bad, dude”, “Yeah Yeah, Sarah Palin”, Yeah, Yeah, Piers Ackerman, dude”, “Yeah, yeah, bad, dude”, ... @Andy, you are a legend.

      Snap out of it and join the adults.

    • Jay Santos says:

      12:55pm | 22/08/11

      “...The joke’s even more sick when you shift your view to the other aside of the world, where real people have some exceptionally real problems, and are being shot at for expressing them…”

      Why are you so concerned about what’s happening in Libya?

      What are you personally doing about the situation in Tripoli?

      Those descending on Canberra today are flexing their democratic muscle as are the Libyans.  The only difference appears to be firepower.

      Is that what’s missing in Australia Anthony? 

      Should the truckies take up arms against the government..after all that’s the right afforded American citizens under their 2nd amendment.

      Your disparaging and patronising references to their occupations only serves to undermine any argument you may have been trying to make.

      It also alienates inner-city elites such as yourself from everyday Australians who have the same number of votes that you do.

    • ozymandias says:

      01:16pm | 22/08/11

      So rights afforded to Americans under their fundamentally flawed constitution should automatically be granted to Australians, Jay? If you are seriously advocating armed insurrection against the government, I suggest you look up the meaning of the word “sedition”.

    • luke says:

      01:24pm | 22/08/11

      Why is Ant Sharwood concerned with Libya and the England riots? Maybe to take his mind off the diabolical entity (Gillard Government) running this country.

    • Mick says:

      01:39pm | 22/08/11

      The second ammendment gives US citizens the right to BEAR arms, not the right to take them up against the government. Twit.

    • Dave says:

      01:39pm | 22/08/11

      Sigh, Jay Santos, the point is that the protesters in Canberra are complaining about things that are fairly trivial when compared to real problems elsewhere. And bear in mind these protesters appear to be able to afford to get their sorry arses all the way to Canberra to have a whinge about how tough they have it. Sorry, but the real people in this country, really doing it tough dont have that sort of money or time. Id bet a fair few of these people have assets that other people in this country would consider a blessing too. Im sick of the kind of reverse PC-ism that thinks it can shut up opposing opinion by claiming it’s “elitist”. These people are pathetic. Simple as that. Theyre being laughed at becuase theyre self-absorbed, petty-minded, and by and large remarkably stupid - not because of their occupations.  So go and shove your claims of “eliteism” where the sun dont shine.

    • P. Darvio says:

      01:47pm | 22/08/11

      Quote: The second ammendment gives US citizens the right to BEAR arms

      ...Must be a lot of armless bears in the US….

    • Michael says:

      02:07pm | 22/08/11

      Luke, maybe it’s to put into a bit of perspective the respective issues faced by the countries. Maybe it’s to point out the petulance of a bratty bunch in a spoiled society. If I had to choose between the truckies’ plight or that of a persecuted Libyan citizen, I know exactly what I would choose.

    • luke says:

      02:39pm | 22/08/11

      Michael, are you saying we should do nothing and accept whatever disadvantages the government offers until we reach the same levels of desperation as Libya?

      We live in a lucky country because we speak and act to keep it this way, it is ridiculous and utterly absurd to compare our country to one like Libya.

    • Thomas Anderson says:

      02:39pm | 22/08/11

      So, I don’t get it, have the Islamic militants decided yet if they are going to base their HQ in Egypt or Libya? Both countries have just become very much pro jihad, interestingly with support from the West.

      Good one America, you trained Bin Laden and his friends, but why learn from your mistake when you can just repeat them again with Egypt and Libya?

    • Jay Santos says:

      03:32pm | 22/08/11

      Hilarious to see the armchair experts above who only know the TV version of the 2nd amendment of the US Constitution.

      I suggest familiarising yourself with the genesis of the Amendment and what it empowers in the citizenry.

      Even the historically liberal 9th Circuit Court of Appeals has ruled that the 2nd amendment exists to preserve freedom in perpetuity including from tyranny.

      “...If you are seriously advocating armed insurrection against the government…”

      Clearly a trip to the optometrist is required.

    • Smiths says:

      03:57pm | 22/08/11

      “Flexing their democratic muscle”

      Whooping it up a bit, eh. May as well.

      ‘Cause it’s just a handful of whinging, self-interested agitators, who know so little about our country they think pollies live in Canberra and that we ought to have election after election if they don’t get the result or the hand-out that they want.

      Democratic muscle eh. Tell ‘em they’re dreaming.

    • Thomas Anderson says:

      04:33pm | 22/08/11

      FYI, 2nd amendment’s purpose is “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State”. It’s all there in the text.

      Of course, we know that a well regulated militia has not been needed for a security of a state for the past 50 or so years, so there goes that. Then again, America is still using a measurement system from medieval Europe, so yeah…

    • Kath Grant says:

      06:19pm | 22/08/11

      I live on an age pension and I don’t whinge or whine, in fact I think I’m lucky to have a roof over my head and food on my table.  I am especially thankful when I compare my living standards to people in other parts of the world.  You, I think, missed out on the empathy gene.

    • Deb says:

      06:33pm | 22/08/11

      Thomas Anderson, I cannot believe I may actually agree with you on something?

      I think I just died of shock.

    • Mark says:

      09:15am | 23/08/11

      What are these ‘real problems’ everyone keeps talking about in Libya. All I see is people taking up arms against an unjust and unworthy government… So, if the truckies had guns it would be legitimate? This government is just as unworthy as Ghadafi, they just haven’t been in power long enough to ruin the country yet. It’s the same, both unelected, both tearing the resources from the countries citizens, both making unecessary and expensive policy changes to reflect their own ego’s… Just because we live in a ‘democratic’ (the definition seems to have changed regularly these last few years) doesn’t mean we’re aren’t right in thinking there is a better way.

    • TomZ says:

      02:50pm | 23/08/11

      Dave, its not about PC, latte, elitist or whatever. Its about a government that won’t listen. Its about journos talking down at people. Its about dills like you who sneer at ordinary Australians when they don’t obediently fall into line with your precious tax.

    • Dave says:

      03:14pm | 23/08/11

      Uh, mark, just little things. You know, like being imprisoned, tortured, and killed at random by the Gaddafi government. But you know what? Youre right. Those truckers and middle class farming folk here in Australia are definitely having a harder time than those randomly murdered people .....

    • Tomz says:

      04:27pm | 23/08/11

      Dave, Ants is already furiously back-peddling on the “diversion” thing. We already know there are worse things on the planet but that is not a valid excuse to stifle dissenting opinions.

      The “diversion” con has been called and conceded by the author as dishonest.  Why keep it up?

    • Kika says:

      12:56pm | 22/08/11

      I am all for the right to protest… but this just makes me laugh.

    • VVS says:

      01:46pm | 22/08/11

      Just like when you look in the mirror? Lol - I kid because I am attractive…

    • Hank says:

      03:08pm | 22/08/11

      Why?  Because you dont agree with them?  I am sure if it was an issue you felt strongly about (mmm…let me guess; animal rights perhaps, global warming?)  I dont necessarily agree with what they are doing but let them have their show as long as they dont break the law.  Who are you to judge?  I know you are very young and ignorant so I will cut you a break.

    • Real Aussie says:

      04:17pm | 22/08/11

      An uprising or a peoples revolt like Abbott is advocating isn’t a protest, it is treason,attempting to overthrow an elected government.
      Those truckies must be rich to be able to fuel up and drive to Canberra,and they can even afford to take time out from working.
      Abbott should be charged for treason, in any other Country causing an uprising or revolt of the people against the government he would be taken out and shot.
      Australia can do without the redneck brigade and the American type tea party that Abbott is bringing into Australian Politics.
      The liberal party is far too right wing under Abbott,and Malcolm Fraser made the right choice by resigning from this far right redneck party.

    • Kika says:

      04:27pm | 22/08/11

      VVS - Ba doom tish! So funny.

      Hank - Like I said, anyone has a right to protest. I just find the convoy funny. Can’t I find it funny?.

    • BP says:

      10:12pm | 22/08/11

      @Real Aussie. Mate you must be joking with your tag. Your comments show you are obviously a deer with no eyes. “Abbott should be charged for treason”???  WTF??? Advocating or encouraging the Australian people to show their displeasure with a government that is unlikely to have been elected without the promise of “No carbon tax under a government I lead” is not treason by any definition. It is calling on those who are unhappy with being lied to, to make the members of the parliamentary Labor Party aware of their displeasure and remind them that they ultimately answer to us, the Australian people, and not to Julia.
      As for Malcolm Fraser, it is a pity he resigned from the Liberal Party, he should have been kicked out years ago.

    • Giraffe says:

      09:50am | 23/08/11

      I am all for the right to protest… but all the queens and queers parading around sooking they can’t get ‘married’ makes me laugh.

    • TomZ says:

      03:10pm | 23/08/11

      Kika, “Can’t I find it funny?” Err, about your depth of debate ... whatever ...

    • Freeman says:

      12:57pm | 22/08/11

      Oh I see, it’s all about perspective. Yeah, when thousands of people rallied against Workchoices we should have just shamed them by contrasting their insignificant concerns with people in India struggling to get a job that pays less than a dollar a day.

    • Ando says:

      01:57pm | 22/08/11

      And the Republic ,Gay Marriage, “Sorry” or just about anything you can mention.  I am always annoyed when people use the “more important things argument” . The lack of logic is ridiculous.

    • Dan says:

      02:04pm | 22/08/11

      Spot on Freeman. When it suits its all “well there are other worse problems in the world!” Well of course there is! There always will be.
      Im for making this country the best it can be, and if that means people descending on Canberra exercising their democratic right, then im all for it.
      Who are you Dave, to assume that these protesters arent really people doing it tough?

    • Mr Denorris says:

      02:47pm | 22/08/11

      Good call Freeman.

    • PTom says:

      03:26pm | 22/08/11

      “Yeah, when thousands of people rallied against Workchoices”
      How quick we forget that the government of the day tired to stop people form attending and need a court to overrule them.

    • PJP says:

      03:53pm | 22/08/11

      Ando: The “more important things argument” is rarely used positively. One could argue it is the catchcry of the criminal - why are you wasting money stopping me when you could be catching “real criminals”?

      (Said “real criminals” could be those committing worse crimes at best (the thief against the murderer); society at worst (Brehvik against everything in his purported manifesto; 9/11 hijackers vs capitalist/Western society))

      It’s also, ironically, the catchcry of the blindly loyal to cause lobbyist - nothing is more important than what I want to talk about, and you should be willing to sacrifice anything and everything to fix it. Whenever you have a singularity of purpose, you’ll use that argument to stifle debate.

      I defuse the argument with comedy, by suggesting “what if I think me is the most important thing in the world? Surely then, only what I care about matters - and logic doesn’t need to be considered?”

      As for the Carbon Price debate - at least it’s not about the science anymore. The science is what it is - based on probabilities and modelling which is necessarily not perfect (science never pretends this, although politicians and public often do). Now it’s GST Mk II - every government will want to bring it in; every opposition will consider it an election winner to oppose.

    • Lisa H. says:

      03:40pm | 23/08/11

      Freeman your comment is totally correct.

      It is shocking to me that a left-wing perspective is producing an anti-protest argument, denying or denigrating the peaceful exercise of freedom of speech….and rigourously ‘playing the man’ as well.

      It seems so abysmally hypocritical.

    • Tubesteak says:

      12:58pm | 22/08/11

      The Convoy has no credibility because part of the reason the Convoy is driving this week is to ask the Governor-General to dissolve Parliament because, according to them, Labor do not have a mandate to introduce the carbon tax

      1) Read the Constitution. The G-G does not have the power to do this under these circumstances
      2) There is no requirement for a mandate to introduce laws.
      3) Representative democracy means as long as you have the numbers in both houses of Parliament then you can do as you please. The trick is having the numbers. This necessarily requires compromises with other parties. Something the Coalition couldn’t achieve even 3 of the 4 Independents (excluding the Green member) were former Coalition members.

    • Marcus says:

      01:18pm | 22/08/11

      “The G-G does not have the power to do this under these circumstances”

      This is not true.

      If it was Alan Jones and Tony Abbott would have pointed it out to the truckers!

      We will have an election by this afternoon.

      Announce on Chris Smith’s show on 2GB no doubt !

    • Matthew B says:

      01:30pm | 22/08/11

      Tubesteak, would you be happy for every election in the coming years to allow candidates to make promises that they don’t have to keep just so they can get elected and then go back on their word once they win their election? That’s what has happened here. Gillard promised no carbon tax and then when elected, went back on her promise and is now determined to introduce it at any cost. It’s a basic part of democracy - honesty and integrity among our elected representatives. Two traits that elude the PM and her government. I expect more of my elected representatives, otherwise how are we to decide who to vote for when we can no longer believe what they say? On the other hand, if you don’t believe in our elected representatives being held to these high standards, perhaps you may like to move to Lybia.

    • Gavin says:

      02:19pm | 22/08/11

      Matthew B, you nearly answered your own question. If your local rep doesn’t impress you, you have the right to vote against them at the next election. No more, no sooner. It might seem insignificant on its own, but this is the only way we can keep the “one vote, one value” system. The idea that an individualist or a self-interested minority rabble can decide when an election will be and on what terms is entirely unacceptable and will never happen in this country.

    • Matt F says:

      02:22pm | 22/08/11

      Matthews B - candidates making promises they don’t keep? Shocking! Now whilst I’m as annoyed as most people are at Gillard for lying it’s hardly the first time a politician (from any party) has broken an election promise. If anyone goes to vote in an election believing even half of what any candidate says they probably don’t deserve the right to vote….

    • dancan says:

      02:50pm | 22/08/11

      Matthew B - I guess Gillard could just quote Abbott in this situation

      “‘I know politicians are going to be judged on everything they say but sometimes in the heat of discussion you go a little bit further than you would if it was an absolutely calm, considered, prepared, scripted remark’’

    • Tubesteak says:

      03:32pm | 22/08/11

      Matthew B
      You must be young. Politicians not living up to promises has been a hallmark of politics since time immorial.

      Gillard said there would be no carbon tax under a government she leads. She’s not exactly the leading the government. It is a coalition of a Green and 4 Independents. Technically, she never lied. But the nature of represenatative democracy means she was not able to abide by her initial comment.

      As always, judge them by what they do, not what they say.

    • Michael Gold says:

      08:07am | 23/08/11

      When you have to append “technically” to “she never lied”, it’s pretty obvious even you think she did and you’re just trying to find a way of rationalising it to yourself.

    • Warren says:

      01:00pm | 22/08/11

      “Gillard is a communist.” “Global warming is a conspiracy.” “Obama is a Muslim.” An endless stream of incoherent statements from people who behave like spoilt children when they don’t get their way.

    • Anthony Hackwood says:

      02:37pm | 22/08/11

      “John Howard is a fascist.” “9-11 was an inside job.” “George W Bush is a warmonger.” “Everyone will be slaves under Workchoices.”
      The only difference between the Left and Right is that the Right can pronounce ‘hyperbole’ correctly.

      Sharwood’s article is baseless. We sure didn’t see him making such comparison’s when Workchoices came under fire.

    • MattyC says:

      04:07pm | 22/08/11

      i had to laugh when one of the commentators on Insiders yesterday said hyperbowl instead of hypebole…. Classic stuff although i think she was taking the p1ss out of someone.

    • mary says:

      05:36pm | 22/08/11

      matty - morticia trying to get a laugh!  incredible….

    • fairsfair says:

      01:01pm | 22/08/11

      Taking that on board Ant - you clearly state your impartiality toward things numerous times - we are now to ignore them, not because they are a freakshow, but because Libya is falling. Almost a political triage if you will?

      If that is the case then - I want all discussion to stop on gay marriage. It doesn’t matter in the scheme of things afterall. I don’t want to talk about the burka anymore - it does not contribute toward the economy. I want my council to stop talking about protecting the Great Barrier Reef - because my region depends more on tourism than it does farming - down with all farmers and screw the ones who do the right thing and working to develop sustainable, environmentally friendly practices.

      You are verbally shooting at them for expressing a view. These people drive trucks, they work in service industries (and thought this is a broad generalisation on my part) they don’t have the vocabulary to fire back at you. Why won’t anyone give them a chance to express themselves the way that they know how? Why do you condone rebels retaliating with violence against a violent regime, yet you don’t condone a peaceful protest against a peaceful govt - do you want people to resort to violence before you listen to them?

    • mikeymike says:

      01:32pm | 22/08/11

      Dammit Fairsfair, you beat me to it.

      What are you saying, Ant?  That we shouldn’t protest because there are bigger problems in the world? 

      I never heard that argument when the Sorry protests were held.

    • n_dude says:

      02:16pm | 22/08/11

      Personally I believe that all of these protests (Truckies, Gay/Anti-gay marriage, Ditch the witch) are all trivial in nature. It shows how good we have it in Australia when that is all the people have to complain about.

    • fairsfair says:

      02:47pm | 22/08/11

      I disagree to a point n_dude. Yes Australia has it pretty good, but it has been better and people are stuggling to let that go, understandably.  People don’t wake up one day and decide to take down the governement with force. It is a festering issue that takes years to boil away under the surface. The only thing that stirrs it up more than ignorance is being mocked. These people are being mocked, patronised, you name it. It is going to bite people in the arse if it is not addressed now (and please note, when I say addressed I don’t mean bowing to their demands - just engage in conversation with them and refrain from pointing out they are missing teeth).

    • Kat says:

      03:51pm | 22/08/11

      Hear, Hear Fairsfair!

    • PTom says:

      04:05pm | 22/08/11

      Has anyone stopped them expressing a view? No

      Unlike Howard who tierd to stop people attending anti-workchoices rallies.

    • Tim says:

      04:16pm | 22/08/11

      I disagree Fairsfair,
      If these protesters were radical Islamists arguing and protesting for Sharia law would you be just as willing to have the politicians engage with them?

    • fairsfair says:

      10:28am | 23/08/11

      @Tim - yes. I’d have no issue with that, because it is their right. My only condition would be that they accepted the answers that they received following the question being put to the people. If we had an electoral system like the US where you vote on bills and policy surrounding sharia law and a carbon tax were presented in a referrendum form at the time of an election - I’d gladly accept those answers. I would however tire of their protest if they refused to accept the will of the people. Just like I would tire of these people if an election was called, Labor were returned to power on the back of their implementation of the Carbon Tax and they still felt the need to protest so vocally.

    • Tim says:

      01:01pm | 22/08/11

      You say the government is rubbish then you tell the people who are trying to bring about change to just sit down and do nothing?
      Your all over the place. You cant just put a clause in and then and expect to not be seen as leftist.
      The truth is people are unhappy and disgruntled, that is why they are trying to get their points across. Some people are really hurting out there and you just expect them to sit down and shut up? Because that is what GetUp would do?? Just stick to sports reporting, it will make a lot of people happier.

    • Mahhrat says:

      01:01pm | 22/08/11

      I get the point, but I don’t like the argument.  It’s like telling me that I have no right to tell Coles off for keeping food in the freezer past it’s used-by date because somewhere else kids are starving.

      We do our own little bits in our own little ways, some more than others and each according to their desire.  Were I in Libya, I’d probably be fighting with the rebels, but I’m lucky enough not to have to.

      What’s annoying me the most now is that the blues and the reds, while publicly hating each other, are both engaging in absolutism; polarising behaviour not because they believe in their points of view (which I at least could respect), but because they’re scared of the greens/whoever would be a third party.

      Red and blue both have somehow figured that spending 50% of your time in power is better than theoretically diluting the gene pool even further.  Better the devil you know, an all that.  To me, it confirms that power itself is the goal, not the betterment of the country, and I’ve always said that anyone who’s in politics for the power should be banned from public office.

      We voters, rather than being offered differing rational philosophies on how our country should be governed, are instead being offered showboating my-way-or-else that makes us out to be some kind of defective terrorist if we don’t side with them.

      I’ve always lamented that power trips can’t be measured like the BAC - I’d give each pollie random tests at least once a week, with immediate expulsion for bad behaviour.

      By the way, Ant, where are the articles on the punch regarding the embattled Mr Thompson?

    • Fingers says:

      01:07pm | 22/08/11

      Right on Jay Santos - what he said.

    • DaisyDuke says:

      01:08pm | 22/08/11

      Clearly didn’t read the article: check
      Ad hominen attack: check
      Arguing with the author but somehow actually agreeing with him: check

      Say no more…

    • Mahhrat says:

      01:49pm | 22/08/11

      Doesn’t know how to use the reply function: check.

    • Michael says:

      02:35pm | 22/08/11

      Click “reply”: check
      Abandon all rules of spelling and grammar: check
      Accuse original commentor of making a “strawman” arguement, which is simply code for “i disagree with any argument that differs from my own”: check
      Use my parenthood status as the ultimate authority of the Truth: check
      Accuse anyone with some sort of education as being some sort of “academic lefty elitist living in an ivory tower with a fully functioning latte machine”, simply because they can express ideas intelligently: check

    • podrida says:

      03:55pm | 23/08/11

      @ Michael.. Abandon all rules of spelling and grammar—check!
      Arguement? Checkmate!

    • Fiddler says:

      01:10pm | 22/08/11

      What is your point??? Because someone else has it worse we have no right to protest?
      You sir are a fool

    • Jason Smith says:

      01:44pm | 22/08/11

      Shouldn’t you be on a roof somewhere?

    • VVS says:

      01:56pm | 22/08/11

      @ Jason Smith

      That sir, is comedic gold! I tip my hat to the master.

    • Mr A Dad says:

      02:24pm | 22/08/11

      Ha Ha Ha Ha @ Jason Smith

      I have to agree with VVS absolute Gold!

      And in reply, @ VVS shouldn’t you be at batting practice

      ha ha ha ha ha “on a roof somewhere”

    • VVS says:

      02:35pm | 22/08/11

      @ Mr A Dad

      No need to practise. My test average is 46.64 over 126 tests you know…

    • Fiddler says:

      04:45pm | 22/08/11

      @ Jason. I was. Tanning

    • Dissident says:

      01:11pm | 22/08/11

      I wouldn’t say that Sharwood is a sook, but he definetly used an incredibly lazy argument here. He is also not a leftist (in this arugment anyway).

      I have said it already and I will say it again - this is just lazy journalism. Somebody, somewhere else has it worse than you so suck it up. It is a flawed argument.

      How about this, Libyans were oppressed, but Somalians are starving - so the people of Libya should suck it up and stick with Gaddafi.

      Sharwood is right about one thing - the fall of Libya’s dictatorship is bigger news than the convoy, but that doesn’t mean the convoy is not newsworthy or that they are sooks.

      Weak, sad argument.

    • Redrum says:

      01:51pm | 22/08/11

      Agree. Stick to the sports stories Sharwood. At least you appear to know a little about that area.

      Here you are clearly out of your depth.

    • struth says:

      02:48pm | 22/08/11

      Libyans will probably exchange one dictator for another.At least one side will be happy-for a while. They do not expect anything else. We in Oz refuse dictatorship. We expect our politicians to tell the truth—-most of the time. An out and out liar is not wanted,even if they are hanging on by their fingernails,we do not want our nation to continually slide down the slope to dictatorship.So we must be prepared to protest until we get something at least approaching honesty. Right now the stench of dishonesty is making us sick. We need the air to be cleaned so we know where we are.

    • Shane From Melbourne says:

      01:12pm | 22/08/11

      It would be interesting to find out whose money is behind this. After all if they are so hard up, taking a week or two to protest would seriously cut into their income. Somebody is paying big bucks to set this all up…..

    • fml says:

      03:20pm | 22/08/11

      Exactly, would work allow someone to take their work ute half way across the country?

    • Kat says:

      03:42pm | 22/08/11

      Shane, why do you assume somebody’s money is behind it?  That’s as bad as calling them illiterate redneck extremists.  We all know there are faceless people behind GetUp with lots of money, but these guys are ordinary truckies who want to be heard.  I’m getting tired of people critising others for standing up for what they believe in.  Protesters at least, have got of their back sides, got together and done something.

    • Ken Carr says:

      05:38pm | 22/08/11

      I was there last week, sorry I wasnt able to be there today. Mostly these people are self employed, and have paid their own way to make a point. Its not a governement funded GetUp organised event, because it is everyday Australians who feel strongly enough to come along, irrespective of the time off work. Maybe Shane you cant afford it, or maybe you just dont see the need to do it. You shouldnt disparage others that want to change the way things are, at least they made the sacrifice of salary and holidays, more than you did in your cheap reply

    • limp wAbbott says:

      08:12pm | 22/08/11

      “Everyday Australians”
      Bullshit!
      Most everyday people are at work not gallavanting around the country complaining about gay marriage and the price of bananas.
      These truckies make rednecks look semi-literate!

    • Matthew B says:

      01:12pm | 22/08/11

      Anthony, a basic fact seemingly escapes you, every member of the Gillard government, and every supporter of Julia Gillard and this carbon tax. She promised that, “There will be no carbon tax under a government I lead” prior to the previous election. How many people voted for her based on that promise? How many people would NOT have voted for her had her true intentions been known prior to the last election? I think it is obvious that the Coalition would have been able to form government with a clear majority had Gillard demonstrated the honesty that every Australian should expect of our elected representatives. She claims to lead an accountable government. That claim is an absolute joke when she refuses to acknowledge the wishes of the electorate. Julia Gillard has NO mandate to introduce this carbon tax. She has NO mandate. She is untrustworthy and not worthy of the high office that she occupies. She clings desperately to power thanks to Independents who sold out their electorates. More recently, her governments’ hold on power has become more tenuous thanks to the inability of Craig Thomson to keep it in his pants and the ALP’s desperate payment of his legal fees to stop him being declared bankrupt and ineligible to hold his seat, thereby resulting in the Gillard government not having the numbers to remain in power. This is an arrogant, self-centred, incompetent Prime Minister leading an arrogant, self-centred, incompetent government. It’s time for them to go!

    • John A Neve says:

      01:30pm | 22/08/11

      Matthew B,

      Julia and Tony are only two people, any one outside of the two electorates who votes Labor or Liberal based on Julia or Tony, has rocks in their heads.
      Parliament is made up of many people, not just Julia and Tony.

      Like it or lump it, this government was elected by the bulk of the electorate. I don’t know what made people vote the way they did, but neither do you. To claim other wise makes you “arrogant, self-centred, incompetent” and to put it mildly, rather foolish.

    • Don't trust any pollies says:

      01:30pm | 22/08/11

      Kinda like the GST we wouldn’t get under the libs? Or Abbott saying don’t believe him unless it’s written down?  Both sides are just as bad as each other.

    • PW says:

      01:32pm | 22/08/11

      The trouble with democracy is this: People vote with their hip pockets. Any new tax is going to be unpopular. If every needed but unpopular measure had to be ratified at an election we would never get anything done, which is pretty close to the case.

      A Government can introduce legislation simply by a majority vote in both houses. No election is required. If you ndon’t like what the Government does you can vote them out at the completion of their term.

      Australia emits CO2 at the highest rate in the world per capita, equal with the US and well over double that of Europe. We are pretty damn affluent by world standards, although that affluence is falling slightly as that of India and China rises. If a country with the affluence and the carbon footprint of Australia cannot set an example, how can less affluent and more populous countries be expected to do anything?

      Do you honestly believe that all the muck we’ve been putting into the environment for the past 100-200 years has no ill effect whatsoever?

      It seems that just like the oil depletion problem, many would rather just leave all our problems for following generations.

    • Matthew B says:

      01:47pm | 22/08/11

      @Don’t trust any pollies - John Howard went to that election stating very clearly that he intended to introduce a GST. Yes, he was against one in the earlier years but he had the integrity and honesty to let the people decide and said more than once during that election campaign that a vote for him was a vote for the GST and a vote for the ALP was a vote against it. What did Gillard do? Promised no carbon tax and is now determined to introduce one no matter what. Your argument (and that of all Laborites) regarding the GST and John Howard is old and tired. Please come up with something that is original and has at least some truth to it.

    • Dan says:

      02:12pm | 22/08/11

      @ Don’t trust any pollies says - umm sorry mate, but this was taken to an election! Do you have a short memory?

    • Nafe says:

      02:20pm | 22/08/11

      PW, Please provide a source for your assertion that Australia is the Highest CO2 emmitter per capita, Otherwise i call “Bull$hit”

    • Megan says:

      02:53pm | 22/08/11

      Do you honestly think that anyone who voted for the ALP would’ve had a change of heart if she’d said she would introduce a carbon tax? Really? After all, the ETS was set to be reexamined in 2012 anyway and we all knew they were keen to confront global warming in some way. To be honest, I’m annoyed that she “lied” about it because I would’ve felt *more* comfortable voting for them if I’d known it was definitely on the cards…

    • PW says:

      03:03pm | 22/08/11

      @Nafe- You are right, in a way. Australia is in fact No 11 of 214. The top 10, however, are all either tiny developing countries or countries that produce large amounts of oil that is consumed in other countries.

      We produce more CO2 per head than the US and Canada (just), all of Europe (by about 3x), Japan (2x) ,pretty much all of Asia, and just about everyone else.

      Certainly we are way above the level of all countries we can be meaningfully compared with, except for the USA and Canada.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions_per_capita

    • michelle says:

      03:24pm | 22/08/11

      “Nafe

      For world’s worst carbon emitters go to
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions_per_capita

      We are actually 11th (based on 2008 data). However those above us are very small countries ie Falkland islands, Trinidad + tobago, Luxemborg or an energy rich nations ie qatar , bahrain UAE.

      2. Our energy usage per capita in 2008 was the highest ever since figures were first recorded in 1990. Only 6 other countries in the top 30 worst emitters can brag of this. The countries are South Korea, New Caledonia, kazakhstan. Oman, Brunei + UAE

      3. The US has in fact reduced emissions by 2.5 tonnes per person since 2000- Australia in the same time period hs increased it’s consumption by 1.7 tonnes

      4. NZ which is ranked 50th in the world for emissions - emits just 40% of Australias emissions per capita and since 2000 has lowered it’s emissions by 1 tonne per person- it has a carbon tax (Since June 2010) and it didn’t send their country broke.

      5. China is ranked 78 on the list

      Right at ths point in time we are the 3rd worst in the world for having high emisssions and for increasing the rate of emissions per annum

      So yes we are a bad nation when it comes to carbon emissions, yes we are trashing the environment and our country and yes we need to do something about it- because this is 1 medal tally we should not be proud of topping. There is only 1 Australia and 1 world - it might be nice to leave something for the future

    • Boomer says:

      04:00pm | 22/08/11

      I am no fan of this government, and traditionally vote Liberal (but in all honesty can not stand Tony Abbot, so for the time being that is on hold)—> but it is just silly to suggest Labor went to the election ‘with true intentions of introducing a carbon tax’.

      She/they had no intentions of introducing a carbon tax, but the Greens got to decide who took office. No matter who made the deal it was going to include a carbon solution. Faark it is not that difficult to understand - what’s more the Greens took a big slice of the vote. A bit of Green policy is what we (collectively) voted for.

    • Ben says:

      08:15pm | 22/08/11

      John Howard did take the the GST to the 1999 election, but Howard lost the 2 party perferred Labour 50.2% to the Coalition 49.8% but Howard won more Federal seats. So to the right wingers who claim that Australians wanted Howard and a GST is plan lie!!!!!!!!!

      Yes Julia Gillard Lied, but so did John Howard in the 2004 election when told reporters that the coalition had no plans to reform the IR Laws. Howard LIED, why didnt the Liberal Party and Right Wing supporters call for an immediate election once they decided to introduce workchoices so the people of Australia could have displayed their democratic rights and freedoms and to vote on workchoices?????????

    • Adam Diver says:

      01:13pm | 22/08/11

      C’mon Ant, half the time we decry Australia’s apathy, now we finally protest we are being labelled sooks.

      From your piece, you must conclude that we shall not protest against the governement unless:

      a) its the worse (being fair top 20) in the world

      b) the government begins murdering people.

      How about we stop making stupid comparisons for a change

    • Freeman says:

      02:01pm | 22/08/11

      Very good point, AD

      but you must understand, the protest movement belongs to the lefties and it’s not PC for conservatives to rally.

    • Matt F says:

      02:32pm | 22/08/11

      No protests like these belong to the wing-nuts on either side with nothing better to do. Most people see protests with a few thousand (or a few hundred) people protesting (whether it be pro or anti carbon tax, iraq war etc.) doesn’t change anything given polls already show what the majority of people think. Besides most protests about one issue almost always end up with lots of people protesting lots of different issues completely different from the original intent of the protest.

      That’s not to say they shouldn’t be allowed to protest, of course they should. However other people also have the right to pass comment on them whether it be positive or negative.

    • John the Zombie says:

      01:13pm | 22/08/11

      Ant stay to talking about NRL and nothing more as you no squat about anything. Even your comments on the AFL show how your mind is entrapped so far up your backside that I dont know were your backside begins and your head starts.

      What also supprises me is that no journalist has even gone looking for Gillards socialist articles? Everyone know she wrote them and that they were about wealth distribution and a new world order.

      Also why has not one article come out about how members of Mr Thomson union members should be shocked that money they pay for the betterment of members (workers) has been used to pay for prostitutes, personel expenses and wage increases all using their money.

    • Woodsy says:

      01:15pm | 22/08/11

      Ant i’m usually happy to back you when you are criticised for your columns, but you’re out on your own here.

      To label these protesters ‘sooks’ and the whole idea ‘crazy’ is massively short-sighted. Does that now mean that any protests involving strike action, the environment or gay rights to name a few are also ‘crazy’ and the protesters ‘sooks’ because there is something more important going on elsewhere in the world?

      Why can’t these people protest about a government’s general incompetence? Who says that the scope of a protest has to be so narrow that it only focuses on a single aspect of their governance? These are people whose livelihood is being threatened by that very incompetence, so I think that they have every right to voice their disapproval.

    • Anthony says:

      01:16pm | 22/08/11

      So what you are telling the average voter is “I’‘ll back you if you agree with me” If you want to live in a country without democracy I suggest you go there. What Libya and the truckies tell is is that democracy is not perfect but is the best we have.

    • Aaron says:

      01:17pm | 22/08/11

      So Alan Jones is quite happy with the obvious security risk having a multitude of trucks parked around Parliament House would cause? Actually provided we can ensure only the Liberal Party are in Parliament House at the time….

    • John the Zombie says:

      01:30pm | 22/08/11

      Aaron that could be stated about any event the unions and the greens have held.

    • Geoff - Brisbane says:

      01:30pm | 22/08/11

      Well you can ensure only the liberal party will be in parliament house (its their job and they should be) because the labor party are all at the local gentleman’s club.

    • VVS says:

      01:53pm | 22/08/11

      Security risk? A couple of trucks? What is this, a Stephen King novel?

    • John the Zombie says:

      05:19pm | 22/08/11

      We will see how non-violent and peaceful the left is next year during CHOGM.

    • Shooter says:

      06:21pm | 22/08/11

      Geoff - Brisbane better than an all male spa bath.

    • Aaron says:

      07:07pm | 22/08/11

      VVS uhm yes a security risk… The trucks are capable of creating a perfect hiding location, they are perfect for fitting a bomb.

      A couple of trucks? From Alan Jones’ comments it sounds like it was the entire world fleet of trucks that was supposedly attending this rally. Geoff from what I can gather the Liberals were lolling about the lawns with the truckers trying to decide who had the most offensive mud-flaps.

      JTZ the only difference being that the Greens and the Unions haven’t paraded about with 1000+ (figure based on Mr Jones’ comments) trucks spewing carbon monoxide into the air.

      Ahhh Geoff so now we’re categorising a group based on the actions of one member? Well then if we’re going to do that then you might as well say all us men fighting for men’s to have equal treatment in the eyes of the law are all misogynistic.

      On the most important events today: Congratulations to the Libyans for their success, which was achieved with honour and dignity. I salute you for doing what was needed but no more.

    • Sarah says:

      01:22pm | 22/08/11

      The AFP (ACT cops) have tweeted that Jones is full of shit and no trucks were blocked anywhere. Pissweak excuse for poor attendance. If only you could get LIAR into Jones’ name as easily as you can into Julia.

    • Johnsyd says:

      01:38pm | 22/08/11

      A(lame) Jones ?

    • Andrew says:

      02:29pm | 22/08/11

      Jones full of shit, thats an understatement

    • Craig says:

      06:06pm | 22/08/11

      The lack of outcry about Jones’ “cops blocking” exposes him for what he is, nothing but a worthless lame duck agitator.

    • FLoss says:

      01:32pm | 22/08/11

      I believe 100s of thousands of people protested against the Iraq war and we went anyway- and we went on the basis of a lie- imaginary WMDs.

      Nobody called for the fall of the government or a fresh election then, they just protested against the policy.
      What the anti carbon price people are doing is trying to effect government change because they dont like a policy- basically they are having sook becase they dont like the elected government
      Somebody should report that person talking about taking up arms to the AFP by the way- he’s very close to inciting violence, we dont have a constitutional right to free speech here you know..

    • Dan says:

      02:18pm | 22/08/11

      Oh yes Floss! All those against this Government are just “Anti Carbon Price people”!. You appear as short sighted as this Governent my friend. Happy to laugh off massive discontent as just a bunch of crazies who dont believe in man made global warming.
      Well, you will get a shock, just like this government. When the next election rolls around, I can guarantee you, they will be kicked out quicker than either you or them care to admit!

    • Nafe says:

      02:27pm | 22/08/11

      I must have forgotten the election when John Howard sais “We will not Invade Iraq under a Government I Lead”.

    • A different Rosie says:

      06:50pm | 22/08/11

      Quite right Floss.  I protested then because I believed, and still do, that going to war in Iraq would be the most immoral thing any austraian government has ever done.  That was worth protesting about.

    • Steve says:

      01:33pm | 22/08/11

      The Govt is crap, people have a right to protest but not until Libya is sorted out.

      What if the new regime in Libya is worse? Still can’t protest in Australia?

      I am fed up with the comparative model being uses to justify the poor Govt that we have.

      We don’t have a debt problem because other countries are worse
      We don’t have a bad Govt because Libya is worse
      The Govt isn’t crap because Abbott might be worse
      We have not got an emerging unemployment problem because it is worse in the USA..

      Protecting the health of your democracy requires constant vigilince by citizens. Problems need to be nipped in the bud. It is too late to wait until problems get out of control.

      The comparison with the Australian cricket team is harsh. We at least won one test in the ashes series but gillard has not had a win on anything yet.Otherwise we can learn from cricket Australia who have recognised that a new captain and coach were required to improve the team. Let the selectors (voters) pick a new captain (prime minister)

    • jo says:

      01:34pm | 22/08/11

      Anthony,  Very tiresome reading you article,  So because of what is happening in Libya, we should just lump it that we have an incompetent, government,  that does not listen to its people.  and saying that a cattleman, a fish and chip owner and a truckie all under the same banner, is a joke,  The Joke is on you,  because the Convoy is made up of us Australians, With all different jobs, different complaints,  And isn’t it your job to report the news ?????  instead of what you did in this article, In insulting, and making fun of these people who have something they believe in, and will fight for, unlike you who, churns out nasty, dribble articles about your fellow Australians.

    • Dr. John Trickles says:

      02:33pm | 22/08/11

      That’s fine Jo, just don’t make it out to be a ‘Truckie’s Convoy’.  Especially when the major body representing truckies - the Australian Trucking Association - has distanced itself from the whole thing! So much for a lose of confidence?? Sounds to me like some perhaps ignorant people, not happy with the government of the day, swallowing right wing lies, using their industry and trying to push their own agendas!

    • Labs (d)rool!!! says:

      01:35pm | 22/08/11

      Pfft! You think Libyans have a moral right to complain about their situation? They’re soft sooks!
      How about a starving child in Somalia.
      A starving ORPHAN child in Somalia.
      A starving orphan AMPUTEE child in Somalia.
      A starving orphan amputee ALBINO child in Somalia.
      A starving orphan amputee albino GAY child in Somalia.
      A starving orphan amputee albino gay child with TOURETTE SYNDROME in Somalia.

      (PS: for edification of esteemed readership, this is known as reductio ad absurdum.)

      PS. Dear Ant, when you stub your toe, I just KNOW that you fall on your knees and Praise The Lord for the pain He has blessed you with, because that searing pain in your toe is reminder that you do indeed still possess your feet, for which you should be grateful.

    • Ed says:

      02:15pm | 22/08/11

      Sharwood = owned.

    • Likes Joining Dots says:

      07:43pm | 22/08/11

      Post of the day Labs, I knew it had to be buried here somewhere in the comments - gotta love reductio ad absurdum.

    • I hate pies says:

      01:39pm | 22/08/11

      They shouldn’t protest because they’re not raving lefties protesting against something that doesn’t affect them…only lefties and unions who want more money for less work are allowed to protest. Everyone else is a sook.

    • 2 Giant Biggots says:

      01:41pm | 22/08/11

      Alan Jones?  Wow, people still listen to him and 2GB in Sydney?  That’s the funny part about all this, that people still listen to them. Can we have a name and shame file of these people?  lol

    • nossy says:

      02:07pm | 22/08/11

      @2 Giant Biggots a- a legend in his own lunchtime 2 Giant Biggots however his 20 loyal listeners , all from the Everrest Nursing Home, will not hear a bad word said about him!  hahahahahaha

    • Ghost says:

      01:46pm | 22/08/11

      Sad to be a Carbon Tax apologist isn’t it Ant?

    • Kat says:

      01:46pm | 22/08/11

      “There is something romantic about truckies which the pubic can’t resist”.

      My pubic reaction to truckies is neither irresistable, nor romantic. In fact, I have no pubic reaction to them at all.

    • AFR says:

      03:03pm | 22/08/11

      If you have a public reaction, you really should see a doctor.

    • S.C.O.B. says:

      01:49pm | 22/08/11

      How fitting that public dissent in Australia is petrol/diesel engine based.

    • MarK says:

      01:50pm | 22/08/11

      Oh come on Ant. Really? Libya?

      Be careful what you wish for there things in Egypt and Tunisia are not exactly rosy you know but hey…what’s a few other fantatical muslim fundamentalist states anyway amrite?

      The problems in these states is only just beginning.

      Still rose coloured glasses are all good.

      Well since you are declaring jihad on anything you don’t like on the site these days I wait with eager anticipation of the next call to have stuff killed in the name of doing good.

      First pitbulls then Gaddaffi. What next? Truckies that protest on their own time and dollar?

      Talk about the msm elite tossing a tantrum lately. You guys are laughable. So very laughable in the “outrage” you show. I love how you say this government is a rtabble and a goner but in the same breathe label those that protest against it jokes. Try a bit of internal consistency.

      Either that or write a piece about how foolish you and Penbo are for worrying about a dog breed int he face of Mugabes racial cleansing. Jesus man…....you missed a trick on that one eh. You guys wrote about a dog and Mugabe murders thousands. How dare you do that - write about other stuff while this goes on. Makes you out to be a heartless bastard.

    • David C says:

      01:50pm | 22/08/11

      so is there a queue for protesting, do you have to take a ticket or something? Are you saying Libya is frist and we have to wait until they are finished before we can have our turn?

    • harry says:

      01:54pm | 22/08/11

      I know this is probably a little subtle for you, since you are spending so much of your time trying to defend this government, but perhaps the comments of Jones and Bishop are talking about Australia? And their comments are in the context of the norms of Australian democracy? Libya hardly represents the greatest harm done to democracy in history, so your snide attempted deflection is quite silly. Did you enjoy the spectacle in Parliament house where the government effectively gagged the will of the parliament by moving back to back unsuccessful motions (i.e. even the independents voted against the govt) to soak up time and end debate on Craig Thomson? Oh, wait, that’s unimportant, people are dying some where else in an important, but totally unrelated happening. My tiny leftist brain is overloaded, I can only identify a single are to be concerned about at one time.

    • jf says:

      01:56pm | 22/08/11

      But there are people worse off than the Libyans: how dare they rise up against that corrupt dictatorship when people are dying in North Korea.

      There have been a surprising number of articles on this blog alone suggesting that we shouldn’t complain or protest about any problem in Australia because there are worse problems elsewhere.

      I’m not suggesting that you are an ALP supporter or not Anthony but it seems that you read their press releases.

    • Anubis says:

      01:57pm | 22/08/11

      C’mon Sharwood, forget your Weeties this morning did you ? the average Australian is no position to do anything about the Libyan situation but we are able to express our discontent with our own moronic Government.

      he Convoy of No Confidence shows just how concerned working people are about the impact of this “green Tax” which Labor are proposing. The reality is that it has nothing to do with the environment and everything to do with revenue and wealth redistribution, as evidenced by Gillard and Swan stating last week that the Carbon Tax was an example of “seizing the economic opportunity”.

      Truckies in particular will be hit hard as, unlike the fuel for your 4WD urban battlewagon, the fuel for the transport industry will not be exempted from the impact of the Carbon Tax. Many Freight and truck companies are already knife-edge financially due to the unwarranted and unjustified (not reflecting the reality of the strong dollar and falling world oil prices) high prices Australians are already paying for fuel. Add the Carbon Tax imposition and it could be sufficient to send many owner/drivers and smaller freight companies off the road.

      They are concerned enough to ram home their point by exercising one of their democratic rights - the right to demonstrate against a bad Government that is out of touch with its electorate (and reality).

      Are you denying that right?

      These people are concerned enough to forego work for a brief period to demonstrate against what they feel is wrong. Shows conviction. Would you have the conviction to try to do something positive if your job and liveliehood were threatened by incompetents?

    • Sarah says:

      01:58pm | 22/08/11

      Anthony - weak article. You should be ashamed for calling these protesters ‘Sooks’.  They are hard working Australian men and women who are standing up to a government who, in your own words, are a ‘hopeless rabble’.

      God forbid that YOU think the freedom fighting in Libya is more important than the Carbon Tax at home.

      You say you’re not being left-wing - but as usual, your article smacks of the self righteousness that as a left-wing, you normally employ.

      These people stood up for what they believe in and they should be applauded, if nothing else - but for preparing to fight for what they think is right.

      The absolute last thing they deserve is The Punch and Co slamming them with weak arguments (at best) that do nothing more than name call.

      Reminds me of being back in primary school…..

      Once of your worst efforts yet.

    • Freeman says:

      02:28pm | 22/08/11

      What’s more, Ant would have no idea of how competitive an industry an owner/driver has to operate in and probably has little idea of how this governments legislation will affect them.

    • Amwayman says:

      08:23pm | 22/08/11

      Bah! Lazy truckies taking a week off work. As long as some other scab drivers deiiver my stuff, these sooks can stay in Canberra.

    • Andrew says:

      02:00pm | 22/08/11

      I for one would like to thank the Convoy of no confidence, not for what they stand for, but for giving me the easist drive into work this morning. I was half expecting this mornings drive into work to take 4 times as long as it normally does. Instead my drive into work took about half the length of time it normally does (and I’m not the only Canberran to be saying so).

    • allan says:

      02:20pm | 22/08/11

      Nobody takes any notice of anyone that Lives in Canberra or the A.C.T. anyway…..........................
      They live in there own remote little world in la, la land and think that they are just that much better than anyone else.

    • MDG says:

      02:34pm | 22/08/11

      Whereas you’ve got no such sense of self-righteous rectitude, eh, allan?

    • Mark says:

      02:10pm | 22/08/11

      Come on Anthony, what you are really saying is that a robber that robs 1 bank is so much better than a robber that robs 20. Both are wrong and both need to be sorted out.

      Making a ridiculous comparison to something that we can’t effect achieves nothing. AJ is talking about Australian issues because they are the ones we can do something about.

    • Vicki PS says:

      02:16pm | 22/08/11

      Why is it that whingers have such a problem differentiating between the right to protest and the substance of their protest?  Sharwood makes it quite clear he has no problem with the truckies exercising their democratic right to be heard.  It’s what they’re saying that’s crap.  The truckies and Brer Abbott can protest all they like, and we’ll keep right on laughing at them.

    • Leo says:

      02:17pm | 22/08/11

      I wonder, if the polls are replicated at the next election, will the Labor Greens coalition and its supporters accept the decision of the majority or will they campaign from exile that their minority viewpoint should prevail?

      And this business of journalists from the left repeatedly attacking anti-government protesters by labelling them with silly names is utterly juvenile and can’t be considered competent journalism.

    • MDG says:

      02:38pm | 22/08/11

      Labor and the Greens aren’t in coalition.  A coalition is what you have between the various Liberal and National Parties (except, apparently, for in WA) where they share party rooms, ministerial portfolios and don’t fight each other for the same seats.  But I digress.  If you’re asking whether Labor or Greens voters will accept the outcome of the next election, I strongly suspect that the answer is “yes”, and with more grace than some Coalition supporters accepted the outcome of the last election and are now calling for another one so they can get a result that they happen to like.

    • Leo says:

      04:14pm | 22/08/11

      @MGD I used the word “coalition” as a common not a proper noun. Most dictionaries define the word as an alliance of people, factions, parties etc… and do not mention the Liberal or National parties.

      At the last election the Liberal National coalition won more seats than the Labor Green coalition. To gain the support of self serving independents and hang onto power the Labor party discarded the policy platform they advertised prior to the election and have replaced it with the platform of those who represent only a few thousand of the millions who voted.


      You can hardly describe such an outcome as a fair result by any measure.

    • Look and Learn says:

      04:22pm | 22/08/11

      @ Leo - “will the Labor Greens coalition and its supporters accept the decision of the majority” – LOL.

      You silly man Leo, you seem somewhat confused. It is the conservatives who are still crying over the result of the last election; it is the conservatives who cannot accept the voice of the people. Stop listening to Alan Jones and open both of your eyes.

      Whether you agree or not, our electoral system is based on 2PP, this is the results of the 2010 election:-

      ALP - 6,216,445
      LNP - 6,185,918

      Simple questions for you Leo - Which of these numbers is larger than the other? Who got a majority?

      Which ever way you want to look at it Leo, the MAJORITY of voters PREFFERED the ALP over the LNP. End of story.

    • MDG says:

      05:08pm | 22/08/11

      Fair enough, Leo.  For myself, I’d have called it an ‘alliance’ in order to avoid confusion with the actual coalition in Australian politics.  I suspect that if you looked up a political dictionary you’d get a different result!

      As for the last election, you only get a plurality of seats - note the difference between a plurality and a majority - for the Coalition by counting the WA Nat who got his seat by bumping off Wilson Tuckey, a Liberal, and who has made it clear that he wants to be seen on the cross benches.  If the Coalition formed government in this parliament, they too would do so by the grace of the independents. There’s a curious belief out there that a Labor minority government is a compromised shambles while a Coalition minority government, had Abbott been able to negotiate one, would be able to operate as if it had a 30-seat surplus.  It wouldn’t have done, which is why Abbott tried to throw $1bn and a doubled refugee intake at Andrew Wilkie, neither of which were in his pre-election platform.  Have a look at what Tony Windsor said that Abbott told him during their negotiations.  Whoever formed government was going to have to scrap things they promised and do things they didn’t.  The hung parliament was always going to make that the price of government no matter who paid it.

      And by the way, the Greens got nearly 1.5 million House of Representatives votes last year, but due to the diffuse nature of that vote they hold only one seat.  The National Party got less than one-third that number of votes but has six seats.  The Queensland Liberal National Party got less than 1.2 million votes yet holds 21 seats.  So there sure are some over-represented minorities in Parliament, but they aren’t on the Government’s side!

    • Leo says:

      08:46pm | 22/08/11

      Both @MGD and @LookandLearn put forward valid points about the total numbers versus the seats. I agree it was a knife edge for both on those numbers. However you both must concede that the peoples vote was based on the policies that parties put forward? I agree with MGD that Abbott offered far more to the independents than many from the right would have been happy with but his couple of billion falls spectacularly short of the tens of billions the Labor party signed onto with the Greens carbon tax and the demands of the other independents.

      We all must face judgement based on what we promise and what we deliver. The polls as they stand reflect the anger of the people with the choices of the Labor government and they face a significant backlash at the next election. The population may well have been just as unhappy with a minority Liberal government, as MDG puts forward, but we can only judge based on what has happened.

      Thanks to MDG for a reasoned argument, LookAndLearn and a considerable number of commentators from the left, could learn something from the tone and style of MDG’s argument. I enjoy and support an active and vibrant debate from both sides as long as the personal insults are left in the school yard where they belong.

    • MDG says:

      11:15am | 23/08/11

      Thanks also to Leo.  Good argument should be acknowledged where it is found, especially when it’s becoming such a rare commodity. 

      It is certainly possible that any minority government was always going to be unpopular and would be seen to be dancing to the crossbenchers’ tunes.  Labor was just fortunate that some of the big-ticket items the crossbenchers wanted were already Labor policy like the NBN and carbon pricing (which Gillard said, ironically in that stupid “no carbon tax” interview) whereas the Coalition had made opposing those very things part of their platform.  It just gets my goat that the Coalition now pretends to be so ideologically pure compared to broken, compromised Labor when the only reason it can do so is that fact that it lost the race to form government and so is free to be as uncompromising and hardline as it likes without having to accept responsibility for any actual consequences.  As Whitlam said, only the impotent can be pure.

    • LC says:

      02:23pm | 22/08/11

      Ant, if everyone had the attitude “but there is more important things to worry about” attitude, NOTHING would get done until we cured cancer, found world peace and colonized Mars. You can forget about gay marriage, the carbon tax, voluntary euthanasia or anything else, because there’s more important things to worry about.

    • MDG says:

      02:39pm | 22/08/11

      Hear, hear.  There are many reasons to be critical of the Convoy, but the fact that things are worse somewhere else is not one of them.

    • Blind Freddy says:

      02:28pm | 22/08/11

      And ofcourse we should look to “truckies” for the solutions to the worlds greatest problems. Do they have an opinion on national security as well?

      I would like to see someone from Treasury tell the “truckies” how to drive their rigs. All ears I’m sure.

    • Jamin says:

      03:42pm | 22/08/11

      Good call Blind Freddy.  How dare anyone question the Government (or Treasury in this case).  Better if we all just bumble along and not voice our opinions, or ideally, have no opinions that differ from our great leaders.  Huzzah for blind faith and the pursuit of apathy.  You are what is wrong with the world today.

    • Blind Freddy says:

      07:14pm | 22/08/11

      They can voice their opinion as much and often as they want. Just because they are loud doesn’t make them right. Nor, does it mean we have to take them seriously.

      In the mean time I’ll leave driving big trucks toi the truckies and running the economy to the economists . . . medice to the doctors . . . science to the scientists . . . . whinging to the whingers etc.

    • Jamin says:

      10:14pm | 22/08/11

      That is not what your original comment was about, well done changing your argument.  You were stating that because they are truckies they have no right to voice an opinion about anything other than driving trucks.  In your world no one has the right to comment on anything other than their field of employment and they won’t be taken seriously if they step out of their box. 

      So what do you do blind freddy?  Because I do not expect to see you commenting about anything other than that in the future.  You don’t want to be a hypocrite now do you?

    • Blind Freddy says:

      08:59am | 23/08/11

      @Jamin

      Fortunately, like you, the truckies and everyone else posting here I’m a self-appointed expert on everything.

    • Jamin says:

      10:07am | 23/08/11

      Not experts freddy, just people expressing their opinion on a topic.  Something which I don’t think is a bad thing. The issue I have is your burning desire to attack people for having an opinion on anything that isn’t directly related to their field of employment.

    • Hartz says:

      10:22am | 23/08/11

      Blind Mullet (Freddy) - your obviously an expert in hypocricy as you succeeded in achieving a level rarely seen…. No one (except you) was claiming any expertise, they were voicing an opinion - you know, like in a democracy… Oh thats right you’re obviously a Green Lefty stooge so you’re probably more comfortable with a socialist approach… Sorry Comrade we should all obey the Party line for you…

    • Blind Freddy says:

      12:38pm | 23/08/11

      @Jamin and Hartz

      Stop projecting. No where did I say that they didn’t have the right to express an opinion. I just questioned the value of their opinion based on their area of experise.

      You defend their right to express their opinion but not my right to express mine. Maybe I should have shouted it from a crowd or painted it on a placard.

      Re-read my original post and calm down. to quote the great thinker Hartz, I was only “voicing an opinion - you know, like in a democracy”.

    • Hartz says:

      01:16pm | 23/08/11

      It is your flippantly disrespectful and sarcastic comment about the value of their opinions that I found arrogant and totally in line with the contempt your red queen shows the Australian Public - “what would the peasants know”... Is that your stance, sounds like it? You will also notice that if you read my comment - I did not attack your right to an opinion, nor did I call your opinion worthless because of your perceived level of expertise - I merely pointed out your hypocrisy, and happily provided a witty remark for you to quote.. Feel free to use it in the future when discussing this stuff with your mates from Get Up fresh from the protest line - It’s a new concept but if you talk slowly they may get it…

    • Jamin says:

      01:17pm | 23/08/11

      No Blind Freddy.  You were attacking them because they are truckies and therefore in your expert opinion should not be listened to.  Regardless of a person’s background or employment they are entitled to voice their concerns, including truckies complaining about the carbon tax (amongst other things). 

      You are entitled to express your opinion, neither me nor Hartz have told you that you can’t.  All I have pointed out is that I disagree with your undemocratic argument that unless you are a bona fide expert then you should sit down and shut up (to sum up your posts).

      So as I previously stated you should no longer comment on anything other than your field of expertise because I would hate for someone to question the value of your opinion based on your area of expertise, as you so eloquently put.

    • Symes says:

      02:34pm | 22/08/11

      Long (liquid) lunch today Ant? Mate, you almost made it. Lots of jumbled up thoughts here, but hey, I’m not a journalist, thankchrist,  just a humble small particle theoretical physicist. Look forward to more of your excellent papers, as long as you can put some lucidity amongst the re-written thought bubbles, to make a copy of a copy of a draft, for a sub-ed, if there is one. Thanks mate, and, good luck, whatever that means.

    • Punch Puncher says:

      02:39pm | 22/08/11

      No, what’s “the first line of a bad joke” is leftie loons like you constantly licking Labor’s butt.

    • Zergon 7 says:

      02:40pm | 22/08/11

      I can not belive how those pathetic Libyans can be complaining about their situation when just a mere 4 billion light years away a galaxy is being devoured by a black hole. Now there are some real problems, those Libyan sookies should just quit their whinging and be grateful they aren’t being compressed into a singularity!

    • fml says:

      03:41pm | 22/08/11

      Yer but then you have tony abbott saying that he respects the right the galaxy has in terms of who is allowed in the galaxy but his government also has a right to allow the black hole to devour the galaxy as per the governments discretion.

    • R. Iculous says:

      02:40pm | 22/08/11

      regardles of whether these disparate, disaffected rabble have a genuine grievance or girevances, the whole thing is an exercise in misinformation.  two main points are that a) there are not very many of them and b) they have not been blockaded from taking the protest to the parliament.  But I have no doubt that the old parrot will be whiiping up the fear with the ignorant as usual.  As it happens it has provided me with some amusement today…Abbott is fast becoming a cartoonist’s delight

    • Super D says:

      02:40pm | 22/08/11

      My tip is that within 3 years time Libya will have a hard line Islamic government and will be pining for the good ol days.

      Fortunately on the same timeframe Australia will have a new Government and can get back to being relaxed and comfortable, emitting as much carbon dioxide as we desire to improve our standard of living as much as possible.

    • Rick says:

      03:35pm | 22/08/11

      Yeh the good old days of being strafed by your own air force.

    • Blind Freddy says:

      04:22pm | 22/08/11

      If only our “desire” overode the laws of physics, chemistry and the ecology - we could. Damn reality - always getting in the way of conservative ideology.

    • Burkha-ha-ha says:

      04:28pm | 22/08/11

      Yup, Rick, that’s just so… rude and impersonal. There’s nothing like a personal touch of being stoned to death by rocks still warm from the hands of your own people. Your executioners even look you in the eye before they bang it out of your skull with a lovingly hand-warmed rock.

    • Mickey T says:

      05:05pm | 22/08/11

      @ Super D

      “get back to being relaxed and comfortable, emitting as much carbon dioxide as we desire to improve our standard of living as much as possible”

      I assume you are trolling, you could not possibly be serious? Please tell me you are joking, otherwise you must take the red-neck comment of the month.

    • Martin says:

      02:42pm | 22/08/11

      Is there no tactic that the left will not undertake to divert attention from this carbin tax fiasco. Now we are to believe that we are sooks for denouncing the carbon tax and that we should have a long hard look at ourselves because our outrage at our government seems trivial as opposed to that in Libya. Then tomorrow, that will all be forgotten, and we will have the return to the usual diatribe about “flat earthers and weirdos”, which will of course not be classed as whinging and sooking because it is the view of the left wingers. Bloody amasing logic, not.

    • Randal says:

      02:46pm | 22/08/11

      Ant, surely you do not think that before the public demonstrates is concerns of, as you have rightly put it “vaguely competent or (not) electable” government, that we do not have to wait for civil war or decades of being terrorised by autocratic and dictatorial regimes do you???

      Once of the reasons we are not one of those countries that face such peril that you mention is because we are a true democracy and hold our politicians to account… and this is regularly shown through public protest. So I think you comparison is akin to comparing a pear to lemon… well a poor analogy, but I am sure you get my drift.

      Might be best to stick the sport Ant, international affairs and politics are probably not your strong suit.

    • fml says:

      04:04pm | 22/08/11

      A true democracy also means that the government doesnt have to hold an election everytime a couple thousand people throw a rally.

      Get a couple hundred thousand people in each capital city and you might have a case.

    • Al says:

      04:46pm | 22/08/11

      Sorry, I had to laugh at the ‘we are a true democracy ’ statement.
      Actualy their is no such thing in place anywhere in the world. Never has been either.
      Democracy has not existed due to the logistics of asking what every person in the country thinks before putting it to a popular vote of the entire population.
      That would be a true democracy.

    • Randal says:

      05:30pm | 22/08/11

      Sorry fml, I did not realise that I had demanded an election, perhaps you might care to point out exactly where I wrote that???

      As for you Al, I could babble on for hours explaining the democratic principle behind our ‘one person one vote’ system, and point out that the right to a free and fair election is what has driven the public demonstrations across the middle east, and northern africa, with many showing a willingness to sacrifice their own lives for what you so obviously take for granted.

      But what would be the point as you are dodo.

      What I will ask you is, are you not embarrassed that those that do not have “true democracy” are willing to risk everything to secure it, yet someone like yourself who lives in a free society seems to hold no regard for it at all??

      Perhaps you need a holiday to the Bahrain to get my point.

    • Freeman says:

      02:47pm | 22/08/11

      Somehow, Ant Sharwood has found a reason to be offended by this protest, Which is probably more coherant than any union rally you will see. Forget the fact that some of these guys drove from interstate at huge cost, the whole thing should be ignored because in his eyes it could have been organised better and some of the speaker employed hyperbole. Oh, and cause he thinks that truckies are quaint.

      Ant, you do realise that almost everything you buy in the big smoke comes from intercity or region by truck? yes, even the coffee beans for your latte’.
      It might pay for you to give them a little more respect.

    • jf says:

      03:42pm | 22/08/11

      “The point being that if every time the electorate had one or more grumbles which were directly or indirectly linked to the government of the day, we would have 100 rallies round the country every day.”

      And yet hundreds (thousands?) of people don’t disrupt their lives and businesses to make their point on every issue every day. Perhaps they consider this issue important enough to do so.

      “That, in short, is why I believe today’s rally to be a sookathon, rather than a genuine cause a la Libya.”

      Obviously a large number of people don’t agree with you.

      As to your whinge about whingers, surely there are more important issues, genuine causes no less, for you to be writing about. Such as the possibility that a member of government may be, at best, a grub and, possibly a crook.

    • fml says:

      03:47pm | 22/08/11

      Ryan,

      They were voted in, they can do what they like (if they have parliamentary numbers), The government would not get anything done if they had to vote on each law that they want to introduce. What Ant is indirectly saying is that the law is going to be passed, and your lot are going to have to show more than 11 trucks and a few jamboree’s to get the prime minister to change her mind, you might have to wait till the next election.

    • Blind Freddy says:

      03:59pm | 22/08/11

      @RyaN

      When, or if, you grow up one day you will realise that 2 years is not a long time. And in 2 years you will get your chance along with everyone else to have a say.

      If the electoral system bothers you, you would have more credibility if you had tried to get it changed before it bit your arse.

      To act as though you are somehow “oppressed” is just funny. AS was/is right you are all sooks. FFS, I suffered 11 years of the war criminal Howard!

      The Liberal cry: “I want something!” - “When do I want it!?” - “Now!”. “Waaaa . . .  its not fair . . . I vote Liberal”

    • RyaN says:

      05:27pm | 22/08/11

      @fml: Indeed this law will be passed by a minority government representing forcing their minority views on the majority, hence my question.

    • RyaN says:

      05:30pm | 22/08/11

      @Blind Freddy: sure 2 years isn’t a long time, but it is enough time for a lying prime minister who lied her way into power to literally destroy the future of this country through her gross and utter incompetence.

      As for the rest of your ad-hominem post, ho hum!

    • fml says:

      05:59pm | 22/08/11

      So Ryan,

      What was the total of the Green and Labor votes? and what was the total of the Liberals and nationals combined?

    • Jamin says:

      01:31pm | 23/08/11

      @ Blind Freddy

      The war criminal Howard?  Funny I must have missed all of those pesky legal proceedings where he was tried for war crimes.  Unless of course we are throwing around unfounded accusations and hoping they stick.

      The Getup loving, tree hugging, drum circle participating member of the great unwashed left Blind Freddy.  See I can do it too.  That was not productive at all but it was fun, I can see why you do it.

    • TomZ says:

      03:43pm | 23/08/11

      @limp wAbbott, you Abbott haters are neither “silent”, nor are you a “majority”.

    • Andrew says:

      11:16pm | 23/08/11

      Actually ant, Im prietty sure they had one single focus, get rid of gillard.

    • Anthony Sharwood

      Anthony Sharwood says:

      02:50pm | 22/08/11

      Hello everybody. Just a quick comment to say that it could have been Libya or any of a number of causes with which I compared today’s rally.

      The point is not to say one thing is more important than another, becasue we all have our issues from the macro to the micro scale. The point is that Libya is a fine example of a cause with a single focus. People want a certain thing overturned ie: a murderous government.

      Today was just a bunch of generally disgruntled folk. Some were angry about the carbon tax (even though there was a rally for that last week), others were worried a huge raft of about other issues.

      The point being that if every time the electorate had one or more grumbles which were directly or indirectly linked to the government of the day, we would have 100 rallies round the country every day.

      That, in short, is why I believe today’s rally to be a sookathon, rather than a genuine cause a la Libya.

      PS I don;t sip latte, but drink black nescafe.

    • luke says:

      03:03pm | 22/08/11

      Ant, I understand now, you are saying today’s rally is a sookathon and Libya’s rally is an all in bawl.

    • RyaN says:

      03:04pm | 22/08/11

      Sorry I don’t see the difference, which government isn’t the oppressive government dictating policies against the will of the people and not listening?

    • TomTom says:

      03:11pm | 22/08/11

      Anthony I hope you will publish this for one. I don’t understand why my other comments didn’t get published.

      My advice to you is to stop trivializing and belittling the efforts of these Australians. If it was good enough for Tony Abbott, the opposition leader and Coalitions MPs to acknowledge these Australians it should be acknowledged by you and every other Australian.

      At the moment I honestly feel that some jurnos, Sharwood, included have become bored with our political situation - we have a winner and their conquest has become to discredit that winner hoping to turn it around from a dire situation to some kind of a reasonable competition for the next elections.

    • Anna C says:

      03:37pm | 22/08/11

      “The point is that Libya is a fine example of a cause with a single focus. People want a certain thing overturned ie: a murderous government.”

      What are you advocating Anthony, that we should follow Libya’s example by taking up arms against our own Government?  Oh you extremist you.

      So going by your silly argument no one would ever be allowed to protest against the government because it is not a murderous totalitarian regime.  Sorry mate but you are wrong. We are a democracy and it is our democratic right to protest whether you like it or not. If you don’t like it then I suggest you go join Gaddafi in his bunker.

    • Freeman says:

      03:41pm | 22/08/11

      sorry to hear about the budget cuts, Blend 43 really sux.

      So what if the rally had a mixed message? If I were to protest against this current government I don’t think I could narrow it down to any one issue either. And really, what is there to be offended at? Protest rallies in Australia usually consist of the Mob chanting a cringeworthy slogan. This rally has been no more embarrasing than the usual we see in Australia but strangely this one has a lot more people doing their best to discredit it. You claim that your point was not to claim one cause was more important than the other. but the title and the closing statement say it all.

      “Truckie sooks vs Libyans with real problems”

      “The joke’s even more sick when you shift your view to the other aside of the world, where real people have some exceptionally real problems, and are being shot at for expressing them”

    • Freeman says:

      03:41pm | 22/08/11

      sorry to hear about the budget cuts, Blend 43 really sux.

      So what if the rally had a mixed message? If I were to protest against this current government I don’t think I could narrow it down to any one issue either. And really, what is there to be offended at? Protest rallies in Australia usually consist of the Mob chanting a cringeworthy slogan. This rally has been no more embarrasing than the usual we see in Australia but strangely this one has a lot more people doing their best to discredit it. You claim that your point was not to claim one cause was more important than the other. but the title and the closing statement say it all.

      “Truckie sooks vs Libyans with real problems”

      “The joke’s even more sick when you shift your view to the other aside of the world, where real people have some exceptionally real problems, and are being shot at for expressing them”

    • Matthew B says:

      04:43pm | 22/08/11

      Anthony, you just don’t get it, do you? The point is that the electorate was given a crystal-clear promise by Gillard that she would not introduce a carbon tax. It is a massive, wide-reaching tax with enormous implications for this country. We, the people, were robbed of a chance to have our say - to decide whether we want this tax or not. Thus far, the majority opinion seems to be an overwhelming NO - we do NOT want this tax. Hence, Gillard’s record low polling and that of her incompetent government. It’s amazing how conveniently you Lefties find ignoring the PM’s pre-election promise in articulating your ridiculously flawed arguments!

    • limp wAbbott says:

      08:29pm | 22/08/11

      Good on ya Ant! These people wouldn’t know a hard days work if it struck them. The silent majority cringe every time abbott opens his mouth…

    • Economist says:

      02:50pm | 22/08/11

      What Ant means to say is this:
      1. The media are dependant on advertising revenue.
      2. We are currently experiencing a crisis in consumer confidence despite underlying economic activity/indicators being pretty good.
      3. Businessman (mainly small) that I’ve spoken to are fed up with the media talking things down in response to government activities that in the scheme of things are minor, even from their perspective.
      4. This reduces business confidence so they cut back on advertising.
      5. This is just dawning on a few media execs.
      6. Time to talk things back up again.
      7. Make comparisons that thingsare worse overseas (relativism)

    • Ryan says:

      02:53pm | 22/08/11

      Fuuny article. Convoy of inconvience (to Canberra motorists) would’ve been a more apt name. Sure you don’t the Govt. Meh. Portest but don’t mess with the regular folks day. Oh and Allan - People who live in the ACT are better than everyone else. I’m certainly better than you.

    • Shane From Melbourne says:

      02:55pm | 22/08/11

      We know why Ant and Penbo write these articles- because it’s fun baiting the rabid right. Who cares whether the article is right or wrong? We just wanna see the foaming and frothing at the mouth of the LNP fanboys…...

    • RyaN says:

      03:06pm | 22/08/11

      @Shane From Melbourne: yawn, pathetic attempt to cover for this half assed leftie piece.

    • Shane From Melbourne says:

      03:32pm | 22/08/11

      @RyaN- He got you well and truly trolled…...“oppressive government dictating policies against the will of the people and not listening”. Grow up little boy and maybe you can be a real revolutionary…...

    • Agree says:

      03:39pm | 22/08/11

      hahaha. So true shane…

      Article went up at 12:40… in 2 hours there’s 100+ screaming comments from the usual howlers about the usual howlism of the day.

      ..somewhere.. a Libyan child smiles…

    • Jay Santos says:

      03:42pm | 22/08/11

      “...because it’s fun baiting the rabid right…”

      Thanks for proving Moby isn’t the only Dick on the interwebs.

    • RyaN says:

      05:21pm | 22/08/11

      @Shane From Melbourne: yawn how boring, you care to actually engage in debate rather than acting like a petulant child?

      As for your reference, I believe that was a question that has yet to be answered.

    • NSW says:

      03:01pm | 22/08/11

      As I flew into Canberra this morning I watched Sky news in disbelief. Alan Jones has got to be the most red necked lying piece of work in action. The organisers of the protest have known for days that trucks would not be allowed onto the road that circles that monstrosity on the hill.

      Oh and the constant banging on about Gillard being a liar - “we were told there would be no carbon tax!” Yes thank you dolts - we are well aware of this.

      Your side of the political specrum is irrelevant - Abbott, Joyce, Alan Jones are redneck hicks and an embarrasment to this country.

    • TomZ says:

      01:26pm | 23/08/11

      The majority of Australian are against Labor. That would seem to contradict “Your side of the political specrum is irrelevant.”

      Or do you just flap the gums and what comes out, comes out?

    • John A Neve says:

      02:23pm | 23/08/11

      TomZ,
      Tell us, do you ever think about what you post?
      “The majority of Australians are against labor”, if this is so, how come we have a Independent, Greens, Labor government?
      I’d suggest “The majority of Australians” did not want the coalition,
      please tell me I am wrong.

    • TomZ says:

      04:05pm | 23/08/11

      @John A Neve (Seano),
      “In the first Australia-wide voting intention poll conducted since Prime Minister Julia Gillard announced the details of the Carbon Tax the latest telephone Morgan Poll conducted over the last two nights, July 13/14, 2011 shows the L-NP 60.5% with a record winning lead over the ALP 39.5% - the worst Two-Party preferred voting result for Labor since the first Roy Morgan Gallup Poll conducted in May 1942.”

      Yes, Seano, I think before I post. Do you?
      PS: “are” does not mean “did”. Present tense (as in now the Labor lie has become evident) vs past tense (when the lie was told and before the electorate became aware of the lie). Either your dishonesty is showing or you are plain stupid.

    • John A Neve says:

      05:29pm | 23/08/11

      TomZ,
      Sorry, you missed out but polls mean little or nothing, the fact is we have an elected Independent, Green, Labor government. Your side lost, you know, like did not win, or was not wanted, Little John & his sad, sad men where on the nose, get it? Your side lost, so wipe your eyes and grow up.

    • poa says:

      03:02pm | 22/08/11

      Understood. Protest from the Left =Good
      Protest from the Centre= Sooks.
      I know you’ve probably been asked to denigrate these people..or you just want to get the whole Thomson Giggitygate affair of the front page..but you couldn’t be more wrong.
      A lot of people genuinely love Australia and are disgusted in where Gillard and Brown are taking it.
      Its called patriotism.

    • NSW says:

      03:50pm | 22/08/11

      Oh God… Your comment made me cringe more than usual when reading comments from morons.

    • Anubis says:

      03:57pm | 22/08/11

      @ poa -The best title for this Thomson business that I have yet read “Thomson Giggitygate affair”

      +1

    • Kika says:

      04:30pm | 22/08/11

      I like how you’ve labelled ‘your’ side of politics as ‘centre’. Everybody thinks theirs is centre. But you are quick to judge the left.

    • Daniel says:

      03:03pm | 22/08/11

      At the end of the day, the leftist morons out there will vote for this train wreck again. We should move to Lybia, it will probably offer more oportunities than Australia in 20 years.

    • Andrew Martin says:

      04:41pm | 22/08/11

      Is “Lybia” located next to the labia? If so, count me out. Spell check is your friend Daniel, and I will shout you the one-way airfare to ‘Libya’ if you so wish.  Another wonderful example of substance and higher intelligence from the right end of the spectrum.  And no I am not a troll from the left.  I am just another middle of the road that is getting increasingly fed up with the media coverage given to what is collectively a couple of thousand right-edge troglodytes who are still cranky they didn’t get their way last time.  More people marched to get South Sydney back in the NRL, and that’s just a footy team (no disrespect to Souths supporters). 

      When the government of the day starts getting the silent majority to start making valid noises, then you will see a reaction.  Today was just another example of our most easily led being whipped up in a frenzy by a couple of bigots and sooks, nothing more.

    • Jerry Goldsmith says:

      03:07pm | 22/08/11

      Today’s Convoy of No Consequence was plain silly.  This was just a mob of disgruntled losers with way too much time on their hands looking for someone to blame for their own inability to make a go of things.  Pathetic whingers. Get educated, get informed or get out of the way.

    • MarK says:

      03:29pm | 22/08/11

      Ahhh ypu picked up Albanese’s catchy phrase eh.

      How stupid is Albo.

      Do you think it is wise for him to mock people that believe have a tin ear by deriding them. His insult will turn more off and just proves the point. This is an appalling government that does not listen.

      It stinks. They act like NSW Labor. They talk like NSW Labor. They will get treated the same as NSW Labor in the next election.

      Great elitist rant Jerry by the way. You tick all the boxes. Toddle off back to crikey or the drum and feel indignation at something else son. Go on now. There’s a good boy.

    • Blind Freddy says:

      04:14pm | 22/08/11

      I think they want the government to take care of them because they are incapable of adapting on their own. They believe that they are heritage assets that should be protected from development like the Hills Hoist and the Victa lawn mower.

      Bring on rail transport and reduce both the sook quotient and CO2 emmisions at the same time.

    • Tim says:

      04:50pm | 22/08/11

      MarK talking about indignant rants?

      LAWL.

    • SimpleSimon says:

      03:20pm | 22/08/11

      “May I respectfully urge those who would accuse this column of left wing bias to read the above two paragraphs again. Thank you.”

      I lol’d.

    • MarK says:

      03:33pm | 22/08/11

      I actually facepalmed.

      It was like Rudd all over again. I am a economic rationalist. I am conservative. No really. No carbon tax under the government I lead.

      The more they protest…..

    • Christian Real says:

      04:40pm | 22/08/11

      Mark,
      Julia Gillard said before the last election that she would put a price on carbon, the only lies are coming from Tony Abbott,his Sydney shockjock radio duo and his supporters that condone his lies and deceit.
      In “The Australian” , this story, “Julia Gillard’s carbon price promise.”
      written by Paul Kelly and Dennis Shanahan, on August 20, 2010(that’s the day before the last Federal election)
      “Julia Gillard says she is prepared to legislate a carbon price in the next term.”
      Mark, you see it as a protest, I see it as Abbott creating civil unrest and attempting to overthrow an elected government, which would be seen as treason in other Countries.

    • MarK says:

      05:01pm | 22/08/11

      Welcome back to my country Chriostian. YTou are most welcome here and there is no need to thank me or my ancestors for using the excellant facilities. Please do use the bins as provided thouh. Oh and no need for a song and dance routine that dates back 20 years either. I am good.

      Now the formalities are out of the way and you feel suitably welcomed to mine and my ancestors country let us see what we have….ahhh yes the Gillard didn’t lie lie.

      She has admitted it champ. you are wrong.

      Thanks for coming though.

      Lies, deceit and Labor. Synonyms.

      Arrogance incarnate.

      Our PM is a bald faced disgusting liar Christian. That is all.

    • RyaN says:

      10:56am | 23/08/11

      @Christian Real: before or after this categorical lie?
      “There will be no carbon tax under a government I lead!”

      Here let me refresh your memory mate.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMVc0IbtyAQ

    • Andrew says:

      11:23pm | 23/08/11

      Christian rule, she admitted she lied and apologised for it, so by your account then she lied about the fact that she lied , so she’s still a liar.

    • Smiths says:

      07:53am | 24/08/11

      What the Prime Minister actually said:

      “JULIA GILLARD: When I said during the election campaign there would be no carbon tax, I didn’t intend to mislead people. What I believed then is an emissions trading scheme is right for this country. I believe that now and we will get to that emissions trading scheme.”

    • Anna C says:

      03:24pm | 22/08/11

      “Today’s truck convoy is, frankly, just another big sook from a disparate array of small interest groups.”

      What seems to be the problem Anthony?  This government seems to have no problems puting the interests of other small interest groups such as pro-gay marriage lobby and greenies above the interests of the majority. What are you saying, that gays and greenies are good; while truckies, farmers and the self-employed are bad?

    • Warnie says:

      03:34pm | 22/08/11

      The Labor Government makes the Australian Cricket Board look competent!

    • fml says:

      03:42pm | 22/08/11

      Cant believe no one has made any Raw Hide jokes…

    • Max, of Rocky says:

      03:57pm | 22/08/11

      Words fail me - there’s some logic here somewhere but I really can’t cope with so much drivel.    8-(

    • wegetwatwedeserve says:

      04:01pm | 22/08/11

      Ahh Australia , Full of anger one day and apathy the next

    • Simplified says:

      04:01pm | 22/08/11

      The situation is simple - People are angry and feel they have no control over their country’s destiny.  They view the government as arrogant and self serving.  They feel that Julia Gillard and her team are liars and prepared to do and say anything to get their way even though they have no mandate.  People want an election to be able to express their opinions about the carbon tax that will affect their everyday lives.  Julia Gillard is afraid to give Australians their democratic right because she knows she will lose power.  She thinks that if she throws enough mud at the opposition, bribes enough people and pretends she knows what she is doing then down the track she could limp to another victory.  Poor Julia and Labor.  The runaway train that is people power will prevail,  make no mistake about that.

    • fml says:

      04:42pm | 22/08/11

      But thats the point, they do have a mandate, they were voted in.

    • Al says:

      04:07pm | 22/08/11

      Just because there are other issues this does not remove the right for people to protest in regards to what they view as issues impacting them directly.
      Others may view it as unimportant etc. but that isn’t the point (otherwise enviromental groups would have NEVER got off the ground).
      BTW I certainly don’t support Jones etc but I will fight for their right to protest for whatever crap they come up with. The same as anyone else.

    • Smiths says:

      04:39pm | 22/08/11

      No-one said it did.

      Read the article.

      “Australians are perfectly entitled to express their disgruntlement, or their gruntlement, or whatever feelings they like, about the government. Despite what Bishop and Jones said today, that’s one of the features of our democracy…” and so on.

    • Justin says:

      04:14pm | 22/08/11

      Isn’t the real story “Alan Jones Decries A.C.T.s Tough Border Protection Policy”?

    • Jimmy G says:

      05:39pm | 22/08/11

      LOL!!!!  Gloria never lets facts get in the way of a good story - I wonder if it were another cash-for-comments example , or perhaps 2GB is now some haven for the deranged, the paranoid & the very very stupid

    • Jemma says:

      04:20pm | 22/08/11

      Excellent Article! I can see exactly what you’re saying and where you’re coming from. Unfortunately it seems as though 95% of readers read a single paragraph and completely missed the point.

      No one is saying that Australians don’t have a right to protest or to demonstrate against bad policy. In fact, what was being pointed out is that WE DO have a right. One which we utilise on a daily basis.

      The point being made was that for Alan Jones to call the whole situation “the most disgraceful thing that has ever been done to democracy” and “a total corruption of the democratic process” and for Bronwyn Bishop to state “we have a government that is not legitimate,” is a completely ridiculous over-exaggeration that not only mocks countries governed to far less a standard than our own, but also throws a very reasonable protest into ridicule.

    • MarK says:

      04:57pm | 22/08/11

      “is a completely ridiculous over-exaggeration”

      What like greatest moral challenge of our times? Or hundred metre sea rises? Or running out of food? Or etc etc etc…..

      “No one is saying that Australians don’t have a right to protest or to demonstrate against bad policy.”

      Except if you do the elite call you a flat earther, a denier, a loony, a syphilis ridden throwback to English debauchery and the like. Or a whinger, a sook.

      Yeh great.

      Unfortunately 5% of the readers are so ideologically and religiously bound to the carbon tax and the inconvenient fact the government is built on a lie and is beholden to the extreme left they will look at any excuse to ignore the majority view. Indeed they will mock it from the pulpits of righteous warming zeal and bring down with great wrath and furious anger wordsmiths to defend their brothers in the one just cause, telling outrageous lies on the way but hey….what’s good for the PM must be good for the country right?

    • Jemma says:

      09:53am | 23/08/11

      Again. Completely missing the point. But great use of the thesaurus there. Perhaps you should look into politics yourself? A very long-winded way of saying very little at all.

    • David says:

      04:37pm | 22/08/11

      Your article missed one point.  The protection of democract is eternal vigilance.  Gaddafi, Hitler and every other dictator got into power because people let their guards down.  Labor is abusing democracy and the longer we let this abuse go on the more serious a threat it will be.  It is too late when dictators get to power to complain, you complain the second that democracy is abused.  That is what the truck drivers were doing, pity a few more commentors on this list don’t stand up for democracy too.

    • fml says:

      05:04pm | 22/08/11

      Come off it, How are they abusing democracy? how the hell are they the same as “every other dictator”. All they are doing is implementing policy you don’t like.

      “pity a few more commentors on this list don’t stand up for democracy too.”
      Cods Wallop, What next?, if i dont drape myself in an Australian flag, and sing The national anthem at cock fights you going to call me unAustralian?

      Leave the exaggeration at home please.

    • TheRealDave says:

      04:42pm | 22/08/11

      Alan Jones making fraudulent claims??

      You make it sound like its the first time he’s done it wink

      I think legislation should be introduced to the effect that the right to vote should be stripped from the sheep that listen to anything that old fruit says.

    • Brian Taylor says:

      04:43pm | 22/08/11

      no doubt about you ant, you really are a labor wanker

    • Ryan says:

      04:46pm | 22/08/11

      What is the point of this article? That somewhere else in the world there are issues relevant to other nation’s contexts, so in hindsight we have no right to protest in context to our situation? You sir, are a twat, and I am glad you’ve ended up with the job that you have, as you’d probably cop a punch fair between the eyes in any blue-collar workplace in Australia carrying around a smug attitude towards the backbone of your country all day. Half of the people commenting here are twats. I’m glad to see i’ve found the twat breeding ground of Australian media.

    • Smiths says:

      05:33pm | 22/08/11

      “Half of the people commenting here are twats”.

      Nice. Though very likely, at least anatomically speaking.

      How’s about you try and drag yourself up out of the gutter sometime, sonny?  Hint:  try a dictionary.

    • paul adcock says:

      04:56pm | 22/08/11

      It’s attitudes like this that make good countries go bad. Should we accept something wrong here since it isn’t the worst thing in the world? why not double tax, it’s not as bad as what’s happening in tripoli, then we can all do a days free labor for the government, because it’s not as bad as whats happening in somalia, lets install a dictator, because they aren’t as bad as mugabe. make it more realistic, should tehy not fix potholes in your street because they highway needs repair too? no, fix both since both are problems

    • Jack THOMAS says:

      04:56pm | 22/08/11

      Your best bet ....... for advancement would be to join the LABOR party ...

      well may we say…  save bob brown…. COS’ nothing will save JULIA..

    • Michael says:

      05:01pm | 22/08/11

      You can’t say Australian’s are whingers just because people in the rest of the world have such bigger problems. Essentially saying Gaddafi is a worse leader than Gillard is obvious, it doesn’t however make Gillard a good leader by any stretch of the imagination, merely the lesser of two evils. Australians in the scheme of things do have it quite good, not having their houses burned down an being machine gunned in the street is good, does that mean that they have to like having an economy altering tax forced on them without a mandate? Does the government have to start murdering its citizens before a problem is legitimately allowed to be declared? The people are angry and want the opportunity to vote on the major policies of the country, not to be told “Ha, ha, that bit about no Carbon tax…. yeah well, me keeping my job is far more important than you keeping yours….”

    • MarK says:

      05:17pm | 22/08/11

      “Today was just a bunch of generally disgruntled folk. Some were angry about the carbon tax (even though there was a rally for that last week), others were worried a huge raft of about other issues.

      The point being that if every time the electorate had one or more grumbles which were directly or indirectly linked to the government of the day, we would have 100 rallies round the country every day.”

      Christ you apologists miss the point all the time.

      The point is that evryday in Australia from last year, to last decade, to last century and forever more going forward there are disgruntled people that link their grievances to the government directly, indirectly, rightly or wrongly.

      Many of them. It has always been so and forever will be.

      The extraordinary thing, and the point which you and Penbo have missed amongst a plethora of other progressive msm wannabes, is that it takes a massive unrest to get pewople, particularly the right, with no official coordinator, no club, no union to spend their own time and money to get together and protest.

      it is unheard of.

      I cannot think of another issue that is the carbon tax that personifies the lack of care, feel and trust a government has lacked with the people. I cannot think of another government that has lies so much and so blatantly to get where it is. I cannot think of a PM that has so disappointed the people and a party that has lost it way so severely as to cause people to continually protest at its arrogance.

      Your arrogance, and that of your peers and the government itself is breathtaking.

      You sweep aside the concerns of ordinary people with terms like flat eathers and sooks. You deride them.

      You then claim obliquely they should just stfu and feel sorry for Libya or whatever cause of the day catches your mind in the 24 hour news cycle to which you are addicted to like a junkie.

      It is horrendous to see you dismiss the vocal part of the majority of middle Australia so easily. You should be ashamed.

      And then to try and prevaricate and weasel your way out of it by saying “don’t worry folks I think they suck too” is pure cowardice.

      You actually gave the reason why these protests are so significant. You are merely too blind or stupid to recognise it.

      “The point being that if every time the electorate had one or more grumbles which were directly or indirectly linked to the government of the day, we would have 100 rallies round the country every day.”

      It takes a lot to get people riled up to spend their own time and money. Look at the sheep at the GetUp rallies, everything is provided…..on the weekend.

      Get with the program there is pure loathing in the community for this bunch.

      You are missing the story. But hey - you got angry at a dog breed. Well done.

    • Andrew Martin says:

      06:43pm | 22/08/11

      Oh for Pete’s sake do shut up unless you have something new or at least remotely close to having a point.  This is just barking at the moon stuff, and frankly, boring.  Please do not confuse the attendance of a couple of hundred brain-deads being whipped up into a frenzy by a shock jock (who had his bullshit called by the Ch9 journalist) with true public sentiment.  The Daily Tele and Jones are the ones driving the noise, and the only ones listening are those that are piss-easy to influence with Chicken Little stories.  The vast majority of Australians who either agree or disagree with the PROPOSED carbon tax are sitting back and watching, going about their lives safe in the knowledge that the sky isn’t about to fall on their heads just yet.  Do not do your fellow Australians the disservice of aligning their viewpoints and action plans to your pathetic and uninformed opinion.  Or better still, go ring Alan Jones and get a gig screening his incoming calls as you seem to speak fluent idiot.

      Nothing funnier than seeing a pack of drongos screaming about the death of democracy by trying to tear it down.  I don’t think Mensa will have to look at the folks today to seek new members.

    • Adrian says:

      07:26pm | 22/08/11

      Ah, good old MarK. Wherever Bolt is grinding his organ, you don’t have to go far to find the dancing monkey.

    • Kurisu Sonsaku says:

      08:27pm | 22/08/11

      Well done andrew, so nice to see the contempt you hold your fellow Australians in. Truly classy, you managed to fit in;

      brain deads
      shock jocks
      Daily Tele
      Alan Jones
      Chicken little
      Drongos

      Any other memes you’d like to explore?? I’ll look forward to your next missive when the getup rent a crowd has a gathering. Pathetic posting on your part

    • MarK says:

      11:41pm | 22/08/11

      Aww Andrew it was so boring you wrote a few hundred words on the subject son.

      Good on ya champ.

      Nice little rant about nothing by the way. Sucked in by the words of Sharwood and Penberthy.

      I love how you describe your fellow Australians. You are a class act son.

      And Adrian. Dear Adrian. Why do you fear Bolt so much? The polls don’t lie.

      you guys crack me up. Everyone that is against you a whackjob or easily led.

      Hilarious.

      Take your time Adrian and actually come up with a point or a thought. You can do it. Keep trying kid.

    • Andrew Martin says:

      07:11am | 23/08/11

      @Kurisu - sorry but I am not here to please you or others, and if my ‘contempt’ for these unorganised and underrepresented Tea Party wannabes and the right wing agendas of Jones and the DT offends you, then build a bridge.  So that would amount to about 3000 people in a nation of over 20 million, hardly contempt for my fellow Australians. 

      And as expected from someone with no valid argument, you play me instead of my point.  But I would expect that from someone who does not demonstrate any understanding of the topic at hand.  It is a leading sign of low IQ and an inability to form a logical argument.  You just read what you wanted to take out of it as a means of firing up those two brain cells of yours. 

      Getting my post labelled pathetic by a person of limited intelligence.  Thanks for the laugh.

      Take a spoon of concrete you sook and don’t swim in the deep end of the pool without floaties.

    • bananabender says:

      05:26pm | 22/08/11

      So Libyans are goiung to replace an eccentric old fool with a bunch of young extremists. I’m sure that will be for the best.  /sarc.

    • stephen says:

      05:33pm | 22/08/11

      Carbon Tax, heh ?
      Hells bells, I didn’t know that the average truckie was so idealistic, and that they wanna save us all from that dreadful tax.
      Just where does the truckie get his info from ?
      Well acording to a KW driver I know in Mackay, it’s the yellow-pages under ‘P’...that’s ‘p’ for prostitute and there all on main roads from Cairns to Cranbourne, (funny, that.)
      And it’s beer, cigarettes, road-stop food and and a tibble at the TAB.
      Truckie wanna start saving their bread like everybody else does.

    • The Badger says:

      06:13pm | 22/08/11

      They couldn’t even muster a thousand people for the sook fest.
      What a whimper of an event.

      Waste of time and energy.

    • facepalm says:

      06:13pm | 22/08/11

      “Truckie sooks”? I would’ve gone with “Truckwits” myself, but to each one’s own, I suppose.

    • Mattb says:

      07:12pm | 22/08/11

      Haha, nah, astro(turf)truckies. Just fake ones, the real ones were out making a living. Keep on truckin on!

    • Eve says:

      06:27pm | 22/08/11

      Most of the time there has been a minority government, last time it was the LIberal/Nationals and some Independents, so this time we have Labor/Greens/ and some Independents. Nobody likes what our politician dish out aii of the times, get real,  we will have another election in due course

    • Richard says:

      06:38pm | 22/08/11

      OK I will say it since no one else seems to be willing or able to do so.

      The article is NOT saying that these people should not be allowed to protest.  It is just making the point that the subject of the protests is in fact relatively less important than some of the other things going on in the world.

      Personally I would have put this into the “rather obvious” category but it would seem that the majority of readers would disagree.

      I will go one step further and make the observation that when the left wing protests it appears to be on issues of principle like equal rights for all, protection of the environment for future generations or a fair outcome for disadvantaged workers.  It seems that the only objective of the truckies appears to be to protect their own material wellbeing.

      Maybe this is in and of itself enough for most people commenting to label me an idiot, but I am not going to take to the streets because I can’t afford what I used to be able to.  I will protest in the street the day this country starts a war of aggression, or when all our civil rights are at stake or when I think the policies of the government are trashing the world we live in.  Not because I have to drink VB instead of Crown Lager.  That’s an example before anyone has a go - I already drink VB.

    • Dodge says:

      06:43pm | 22/08/11

      Barely 10k folks between both anti Government events… Not very good.

      And I take heart.. I have no problem with the population flexing their democratic muscle, but conversely, they must concede on the low turnout pointing to low numbers in general who are that far right of centre - Tea Party style. Certainly relative to the events staged by the other side. There’s hope for us yet! Usher in Malcolm T and things would be looking great for Australia.

    • Lauren says:

      06:59pm | 22/08/11

      I believe that everyone has ther right to protest and that should never be taken away. I am just afraid that many protersters don’t understand what they are protesting against.  What really worries me is the amount of false information being spread by conservative politicians and the even more conservative meida. I realise the government has a serious credibility problem and people have stopped listening to them, but they need the facts. Sadly everytime Tony Abbott gets in the media, all he does is lie. If he had really cared about Australia’s future he would have participated in the multi-pary forum to get the best possible deal for the people that he supposedly champions. Unfourtunately he just says no to everything without coming up with any policies of his own. He knows that if the carbon tax was successful in this country it would be very bad news for him. He wants to be Prime Minister, that is his only agender.

      His call for an election is beyound ridiculous, how can anyone vote for this man as an alternative when he advocates a carbon tax in 2009, then decides he doesn’t believe in climate change, then wants to hand out incentives to big polluters to stop polluting, all the while winking at Alan Jones and other climate change sceptics as if to say ‘Don’t worry I don’t really believe in climate change, I just want to be electable’. At least Julia admits that she went back on her promise and isn’t taking the Alan Jones route of advocating violence against those who disagree with her. She also has the support of economists and scientists, Tony doesn’t.

      For the record no protestors were stopped from attending the rally, this is yet another lie from Alan ‘I like to call a spade a spade except when it doesn’t suit my argument’ Jones.

    • John says:

      07:36pm | 22/08/11

      Now there is going to be a counter revolution when these criminal rebels take power. After all they were funded by our criminal west. I though the middleast were all about toppling governments that were puppets to the US. It’s like it’s the other way around now. I just wonder when the western revolution is going start? I would love see the entire western political, banking and media establishment toppled from power.

      “People want a certain thing overturned ie: a murderous government.”

      Yet NATO has murdered hundreds But no a word from the criminal western media. According to the media, there is no war going on in Libya! I’m sure of 90% of western people in the western streets wouldn’t have a clue about NATO raining bombs over Libya. This is how well our democratic media likes to inform it’s people. We in the west live in a world of fantasy that we no longer know whats going on in the world. This of course is deliberate! The establishment want make sure we are just dumb sheep.

    • Richard says:

      07:44pm | 22/08/11

      To everyone saying, rightfully, “how could so many people STILL support the Labor party?”, I think one must only look at the media to find the answer to that one. Mal Farr, the National Political editor of News Limited, the supposedly “Right-wing” media outlet in this country, has done nothing but post daily apologies for the Labor party at the punch ad infinitum. The entire media, from top to bottom, with the salient exception of Andrew Bolt, would rather report from any angle at all that could slightly be seen as sympathetic to the government, than show any kind of empathy for the real everyday people who are doing it tough.

      Their latest tactic now is to condescendingly imply that we’re all a bunch of sooks and whingers because Australia is doing fine and every other country is going to hell in a handbasket. But I want these apologists to honestly ask themselves WHY every other country is going to hell in a handbasket?

      The answer rings out as clearly as a bell: Left-wing socialist governments spending money they don’t have and doing damage to their country’s industries with their ineptitude. How much better off would Britain be if their people had “sooked” and “whined” more while their left wing Labour government was running amok?

      If the people don’t have their voices heard now, by the time the truth becomes self-evident, that left-wing governments destroy wealth and inhibit productivity, it will be too late. Labor has already destroyed numerous industries in this country (Northern cattle industry, roof insulation industry, manufacturing industry, retail industry etc., etc., etc.), how can it be labelled “sookiness” to demand that their destructive government be replaced with a responsible one?

    • John the Zombie says:

      07:56pm | 22/08/11

      I find the QANTAS engineers the biggest sooks around. Highly paid and conditions most ppl dream off they still want more and are happy to take an extra 1hr a day off to protestn and try to use the line we are doing it for Australia. Hope they get docked for this.

      How about the patrick warth workers? Arent they a bunch of sooks as well. Just because the company would not give them a 18% pay rise over 3 years they striked. Even thought they are on wages of $120,000+ per year with out overtime.

    • georgie says:

      08:17pm | 22/08/11

      You sir, are an idiot.

      We should be focusing on what is happening in our own backyard first before we go sticking our nose into other people’s rubbish…I hope a b-double runs you off the road next time…then we’ll see who’s a sook…

    • Gran Depine says:

      09:38pm | 22/08/11

      LOOK AT THE SCORE BOARD (“clap clap clap clap clap clap”) LOOK AT THE SCORE BOARD (“clap clap clap clap”) All you left socialist ALP Greens I have a countdown watch…very very soon you will all be in that elephant burial ground like Christina Keneally? You are all going to lose hahahaha the Federal election will be a catastrophic defeat of the ALP and Greens…I can’t wait hahahha God Bless the ones that speak up and show the truth…good on you Alan Jones

    • LB says:

      10:15pm | 22/08/11

      Don’t take the left or the right wing view. Libya - its a long way from us and they couldn’t (or wouldn’t) care about anything that happens in Australia so I can only provide the same in reciprocity. I’m not ignorant, just a realist. As for the demonstration…. As someone who has spent a long time in the transport industry I empathise with the sole operators.

      However as a country, Australia has generally always followed a few years behind the US - look where they are now? Australia has a strong economy - yay! But that doesn’t mean squat in 3 years time when there is no economic stimulus. This is the time where Australia needs to learn from the mistakes of the US and not follow in their footsteps.

      There should be careful spending by consumers and definitely no increased taxes for a cause that will contribute ZERO on the worldwide scale of global environmental issues (people need to remember Australia is a small pimple on the face of the world with these sorts of things - have a look at China’s total emissions vs Australia).

      Encourage the continued growth of the sectors that provide the core backbone of the Australian economy (agriculture and resources) and develop new frontiers to allow alternative waves of economic growth (the NBN is a step in that direction). Then we may have a truly sustainable economy.

    • Dave says:

      10:28pm | 22/08/11

      Today every inhabitant of this planet must contemplate the day when this planet may no longer be habitable. Every man, woman and child lives under a nuclear sword of Damocles, hanging by the slenderest of threads, capable of being cut at any moment by accident or miscalculation or madness, how ever with the Gillard government, “tyrant” carries connotations of a harsh and cruel ruler who places his or her own interests or the interests of a small oligarchy over the best interests of the general population, which the tyrant governs or controls

    • Lance says:

      11:02pm | 22/08/11

      Wow. So Alan Jones is a bit of an idiot, and Libya is having issues we are no longer allowed to be concerned for the future of this country and how it’s being destroyed by the Greens and their Labor slaves ... well glad I heard it here first. Election please and let us have a say!

    • podrida says:

      07:22pm | 23/08/11

      You had a say, and Australia decided that Gillard should be elected. You can claim ‘no fair’ if you like but them’s the facts. To even imagine that this nation should be influenced by a mincing queen like Jones, who never put himself forward for an election, ( I said an ELECTION, dummy), is a despicable state of affairs. Don’t you Aussies have any pride in your own, and this nation’s manhood anymore?

    • NESLIHAN KUROSAWA says:

      11:59pm | 22/08/11

      Hi Anthony,

      Surely, in every healthy democracy, it is every one’s right or privilege to protest against issues arising from problems we face on a daily basis, like inflation, unemployment, health care system etc.  As long as we live in democracy and preach freedom of speech, we all have to get used to do idea that some disgruntled portion of our society will protest!!  The actual question remains to be “what are we all protesting against, again”??

      Surely, we can not compare this particular situation, to the one reaching a boiling point in the Middle East.  We also have to be aware that there are deeper issues when it comes to the problems in Libya, such as high numbers of unemployment among the young generation, very high inflation rates, rising living costs!!  Most Middle Eastern countries are pretty much young nations, where the one third of the populations tend to be under the age of 35.  They are consumers of everything in sight as well as needing the foundation to build on such as education & work opportunities.

      It is definitely fight for survival when it comes to basic needs like affordable housing, health care & what to put on a dinner table each night.  Unfortunately, in the past only the privileged portion of their society, have been entitled to those things without a struggle!!  Which I personally find quite sad!! I am sure that there is a very good reason, why they have been protesting in the first place. Because of the fact that they have not been heard or taken notice of up until recently, it is getting out of hand & very violent!!  But can we really compare the very serious situation in Libya to the protests in Australia??  Best regards to your editors.

    • RC Henry says:

      07:24am | 23/08/11

      We can’t do anything about the overthrow of dictatorial governance in Libya nor the dying muslims in Somalia. However, we can do something about the maladministration of government in Australia.

      Whether they have a leader or a single cause, the message the truck drivers are making on behalf of many of us is that we are sick of governments who don’t perform and don’t listen to the electorate. We are sick of governments promoting their own agenda at the expense of what we, the people want.

      Unfortunately, there are not many good alternatives to the Labor crew we have at present. We’re just going to have to tough it out as the country deteriorates around us.

    • Kipling says:

      08:47am | 23/08/11

      Wow, talk about pearls before swine….

      Pretty simple the point to this article, the Convoy of No Competence has NO CLEARLY DEFINED point….

      That’s what this article is basically saying and nothing more. Further, it is right on the money.

      There are no calls that this Convoy of No Competence should not be allowed, clearly, it is not only allowed, but also supported. This despite its absolute lack of direction or purpose. Well, purpose is clear actually to overthrow the current democratically elected Government because it’s not the one they voted for…. Of course, that would be undemocratic and unconstitutional but hey don’t let that stop a good excuse for a road trip.

      Further, the initial idea that got this little road trip started was to protest against a possible ban on Live Exports. Clearly the organises got the idea that including the Carbon Tax in their protest would have more Newsworthy weight in it. Of course, this has proven correct given the absolute dearth of information regarding protests against live exports by comparison to the coverage of the Convoy of NO Competence….

      The other clear and spot on comparison is the difference between Australia (let’s have a whine because we MIGHT have to spend a bit more money) versus Libya, let’s protest against this illegitimate dictatorial Government that was NEVER elected to office at extreme risk to our personal safety.

      If the juxtaposition of these two things does not strike you as ludicrous then you are somewhat lacking in the basics of humanity…

      Protest by all means, but at least have a valid and supportable position.

      Oh and bare this in mind the next time some “tree hugger” is protesting to protect an area of forest (see a specific and clearly articulated purpose). They may well be protesting against members of the Convoy of No Competence, who will no doubt be whining about the impact on their incomes….

    • Frank says:

      09:07am | 23/08/11

      WAAAAAAA Im not happy!! I didn’t get my juice and Chicken McNuggets :( this is the attitude of the Convoy of No Confidence and Alan Jones, they act like toddlers who don’t get what they want so they get sooky and throw a tantrum. YOU CAN’T HAVE AN EARLY ELECTION SO GET OVER IT!

    • dave says:

      09:24am | 23/08/11

      I take it we cant complain or protest until we are in the same dire straits as the Libyans, Somalis etc.  But ghee that will take Joolia and Brownie at least another term in government. I mean they are good at creating disasters but they cant work that fast!!

    • Kipling says:

      11:37am | 23/08/11

      I take it you are not actually basing your rant on reality…

      It has been fairly clearly highlighted that no one is trying to interfere with said Convoy of No Competence right to protest, but, clearly pointing out the ineptitude of the leaderless (and therefore directionless) convoy and the inappropriateness of demands for a double disillusion election when, clearly according to our constitution (you know that messy little write up of the rules that we all agree to in having a democracy) have not been met.

      Sheesh how hard is that to understand?

    • Jemma says:

      05:02pm | 24/08/11

      @ Kipling… Precisely!! Good to see that some people commenting actually have a brain between their ears!

    • Fiona says:

      09:29am | 23/08/11

      I don’t know about anyone else, but never on any day do I feel guilty for the good life I have here compared to others overseas. Thankful yes, but never guilty.

      Our lucky country is so because of the systems we have in place, the cultural values we have held that have been COMPLIMENTARY to each other (and no I don’t just mean Anglo Saxon). I immediately think of the stoic work ethic of our Asian, Italian, Greek migrants to name a few. We cannot be held accountable or guilty for the failings of other cultures and systems of governance. If we fail to hold this government or any for that matter, to account for it’s actions, we too will fall by the wayside like so many overseas. That is the beauty of living here, the right to protest and also the right to hold an opinion different from someone else. I personally think a lot of people have silly opinions, but hey, that’s their right. I don’t understand same sex relationships, but again, it doesn’t affect me, nobody is forcing me into one, so why should I care? But I am allowed to feel that way. I won’t vilify anyone for their choices, that is for sure. But having my opinion doesn’t make me an uneducated idiot, redneck, bigot or whatever label people want to throw about. I find it hypocritical that so many people who support very ‘contraversial’ issues seem to want to deny other people the right to think differently to them. Which high horse are you going to sit on?

      I have family facing the prospect of coal seam gas mining on their farming property. I have very strong feelings about the issue. Some others can’t understand why they would protest, but each side is allowed to hold their own view. Walk a mile in another’s shoes I say.

    • Sean says:

      06:00pm | 23/08/11

      The Biafra Fallacy: If you live in the West, you’re not allowed to complain about anything because someone else somewhere else has it worse.

      “Government doing nothing to stop exploding cost of living? Shut up, people are starving in Africa! Government censoring the media? Shut up, people are starving in Africa! Government making people disappear in the middle of the night? Shut up, people are starving in Africa!”

      What a load of crap you left wingers talk sometimes.

    • Peter says:

      06:24pm | 23/08/11

      I’m pretty sure there were wars and famine around when your comrades were protesting against work choices. Funnily enough I don’t recall any articles from you at the time deriding those protesters.

    • tryecrot says:

      06:59pm | 27/08/11

      Yes there should realize the opportunity to RSS commentary, quite simply, CMS is another on the blog.

    • Disraeli says:

      07:24am | 28/08/11

      Other views of the truck convoy.

      Laurie Oakes (quoted by Fitzsimons) on Jones

      “Laurie on lorries
      As a political commentator, Laurie Oakes has more cred than anyone in the country. On Monday night’s Nine News he used it, admirably, to crush the man who has the least, Alan Jones. The issue was the so-called Convoy of No Confidence to Canberra that Jones had been furiously promoting, boasting they’d get 3000 trucks. In the face of a sad red rump of just 300 trucks, and a thin scattering of protesters like ‘‘confetti in a graveyard’‘, Oakes played footage of a humiliated Jones standing beside Tony Abbott, explaining away the numbers by saying: ‘‘Our convoy, which I understand is two kilometres long, has been stopped at the border between NSW and the ACT …’‘

      Really, Alan? Oakes then played a grab of Sergeant Dave Harrison of ACT Policing calmly denying the totally false claim.

      Oakes’s voiceover: ‘‘But when the denial was reported on Sky News, in an extraordinary performance, Jones turned on the reporter covering the rally. (Footage of Jones, like an outraged school principal, ranting at the reporter, trying to bully him into coming up on stage.)

      Still not done, Oakes explained that, in fact, the police had only briefly pulled trucks over to explain arrangements. Reporter: ‘‘So how long were you pulled over for?’’ Convoy organiser: ‘‘Oh, probably would have been coupla … three minutes I suppose.’‘

      Still not done, Oakes filled the screen with his own image and felled Jones with one last dismissive back-hander: ‘‘To quote the man behind the rally, Mick Pattel, ‘I think Alan might have been misled.’‘’

      http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/grave-concerns-for-kate-20110827-1jf9p.html#ixzz1WGWOr3uz

      On numbers

      “THEY expected a line of hungry truckies as far as the eye could see.

      Kerry Murphy, the owner of the Wallendbeen Hotel, rostered on four extra staff, hired beer glasses, bought extra kegs and purchased enough supplies for 300 bacon and egg rolls.

      The fishing club and public school in Wallendbeen, a village of 200 near Wagga Wagga, set up large steel drums filled with firewood and spent hundreds on meat and bread rolls in preparation for the 1000 travelling protesters that organisers told them to expect. But the Convoy of No Confidence never came.

      The organisers of the mobile protest told the Herald last week that 11 convoys carrying up to 30,000 truck drivers would line the country’s roads, travelling several designated routes to Canberra, with an official overnight stop in a country town.

      In Wallendbeen, however, only 10 vehicles showed up, Ms Murphy said.”
      http://www.smh.com.au/national/the-pub-with-no-patrons-a-detour-that-depressed-a-small-town-20110825-1jci5.html#ixzz1WGZQEEQM

      And the “peaceful assembly” by a Canberra journo
      http://www.crispinhull.com.au/2011/08/27/truckwits-attack-on-democracy/

 

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