This week has greatly illuminated Tony Abbot’s unique relationship with public policy.

Can't handball either. Photo: Ray Strange

As the first hint of a proposed massive cut to Australia’s immigration intake surfaced in last weekend’s media we were told that Tony Abbotts’s impending announcement would be a game changer – the ultimate trump card to the population debate.

Barely had he mentioned the figure of 170,000 than his policy was fatally wounded having been hit by shrapnel. Turns out that all Mr Abbott had done was add up the current projected cuts in net overseas migration arising from existing Government policy, and call it his policy.

Tony Abbott’s game changer had proved to be nothing more than promising what Labor was already delivering.

The inside word from Liberal HQ is that next week Tony will be announcing a bridge over Sydney Harbour with a fancy opera house nearby.

Having bamboozled us with his numeracy Tony then marched straight into the Leaders Debate on Sunday night.

His first substantive line was: “This election is about a fair go for families struggling with cost of living pressures.”

It was a good start. It expressed a sentiment with which we all agree. For Labor’s part, three income tax cuts in a row and the largest ever increase in the pension, after a decade of neglect, is just a taste of our approach to tackling the problem.

Having placed cost of living as the very first issue of this election, Tony was then asked the predictable question from Malcolm Farr and David Speers about how his policies would help the household grocery bill. Tony responded: “… government can’t with the stroke of a pen reduce grocery prices …”

It might be the great issue of the day but don’t ask Tony to do anything about it.

The problem is that Tony happens to be doing a lot about it. He mightn’t be able to reduce prices, but with a stroke of his pen he sure as hell is going to have a go at increasing them. The fact is that the 1.7% tax hike on Coles and Woolworths to pay for Tony’s Paid Parental Leave Scheme will blow a hole in family budgets across the country.

And it was the very same Paid Parental Leave Scheme which provided the next belly laugh of the week.

Despite having previously declared that Paid Parental Leave would happen in Australia over his dead body, in March Tony decided that maybe it was worth a try after all. Of course such policy on the run had the big end of town choking on their cigars and wishing to make good on Tony’s earlier declaration.

Not surprisingly it turns out that in all the haste the policy had not been properly costed and needed some remedial work in order to survive the glare of election scrutiny.

So rather than make the leave based on the salary of the person taking the leave, Tony’s scheme will now pay in accordance with the mother’s salary even if it is the father taking the leave. Aside from a cynical reliance on pay inequity to solve his budgetary woes, how on earth can Tony possibly justify this? The inevitable effect will be to discourage paternity leave. Rather than Government empowering couples to make their own choice about how to manage parental time spent with a newborn, Tony’s government will do its best to make the choice for them.

Only Tony Abbott can take an innately progressive policy such as paid parental leave and make it an agent for his reactionary views.

The climax of the week has come with Tony’s company tax cut of 1.5%. In March Tony announced he would increase company tax on large companies to pay for his PPL scheme. In June Tony said that no-one would notice a 2% cut in the company tax rate. I suppose that’s true in respect of the economically bored but companies themselves might beg to differ.

Yet now Tony lauds an even smaller tax cut.

And in proposing such a cut Tony is the first leader to take to an election simultaneous polices which both increase and reduce company tax rates at the same time. He proposes two polices which are fighting each other. Coles and Woolies must be scratching their heads at getting a 1.5 per cent cut, coupled with a 1.7 per cent increase.

Tony is a one man Punch and Judy show.

After a week of promising what has already been delivered; nominating the big issues and declaring he can do nothing about them; taking the progressive and making it discriminatory; and proposing the first ever company tax cut-hike; we are left to conclude that Steven Hawking’s work on chaos theory must have come from researching Tony Abbott’s brain.

Tony Abbott makes policy with the precision of John Howard’s bowling. He is the scud missile of public policy formulation: erratic and dangerous.

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    • Rob r Charteris says:

      08:00am | 30/07/10

      Phoney Tony’s Paid Parental Leave which has turned into a Paid Maternity Leave and now we hear he is yet to formally release his policy we all thought was released two months ago. But he tells us it is not a backflip it’s a re-adjustment. Richard you hit the nail on the head Phoney Tony with all his Baloney with the tenacity of a wind vane will jump on or waver to any populist cause or sound bite. Dragging his wife and daughter out and mentioning every woman in his life was another example of jumping on sound bites. At the end of the day you can dress a monkey in a suit but it’s still just a monkey. The bloke is so desperate for his new toy he’ll do anything say anything. Yet probably his biggest step up during this campaign wasn’t even manufactured by himself or his campaign team. It came from someone within the ALP in the way of leaks trying to destabilise Julia Gillard. If he does win this election he certainly won’t have doing it by himself.

    • TimB says:

      09:11am | 30/07/10

      “If he does win this election he certainly won’t have doing it by himself.”

      Perhaps not, but it will definitely be because of the utter incompetence of the ALP. And a good thing too, I’d rather have a government with a proven track record for getting the job done than one that screws up everything it touches.

    • acotrel says:

      09:15am | 30/07/10

      Considering that most of the issues Abbott has raised in this election have been MANUFACTURED, I doubt that the ‘leak’ was genuine!

    • Rosie says:

      09:25am | 30/07/10

      Rob for a while I thought you were talking about the latest Woman’s Weekly glamour woman “Julia Gillard”

      I say again; “must be difficult defending a party that is now trying to defend and justify its existence” especially now when they are being reminded that they have a rat in the ranks!

      Tut Tut Rob where are the positives from Labor? 2 weeks 1 day before the elections and your comments are negatative, an attack on poor Tony Abbott.

      Hey a positive for you guys apart from the glamour photos of our PM in the Woman’s Weekly is to get rid of that Union guy, Paul Howes, the man looks and sounds bad!

    • TimB says:

      09:28am | 30/07/10

      @ Acrotel- For the last time, Julia has confirmed the leaked info to be true. What more do you need to be convinced that there is no conspiracy theory here?

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      09:37am | 30/07/10

      TimB says:08:11am; A government that stuffs up you say…. Well Abbott is getting off to a great start. Stuffed up immigration numbers which he has stolen off the ALP and took as his own. Stuffed up Paid Parental Leave, Stuffed up trying to hide Work Choices, Stuffed up his new company tax cut/hike/cut/hike/cut/hike. Stuffed up his $46 billion dollar savings plan which we now know most of which doesn’t exist. Nice try TimB but you stuffed up on that one lol

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      10:04am | 30/07/10

      TimB says:08:28am; No she hasn’t, she only confirmed she questioned that isn’t opposing anything which is what is being said. Imean if you really believe then I guess you’ll believe anything

    • swingermadeuphermind says:

      10:04am | 30/07/10

      How has he stuffed up paid parental leave? It does not make economic sense to have a private sector Engineer dad on $200k a year and a admin assistant mum on $45k a year have a baby and then have “dad stay at home”. I am sorry, but the attraction of getting paid your huge wage (or the max entitlement because you earn over the limit) is too high for most households as it sees mum working at full capacity (following on from her initial break - which now days is often paid by her employer). It should be the minimum wage and the minimum wage only FOR ALL. Fair is Fair - you can’t generate income or better your lifestyle from children - HELLO - not what they were really designed for… I am a swinging voter, but I must say - after reading the Liberal Diary - you really have to pick up your game Marles - and some of the comments on here are laughable.

    • TimB says:

      10:05am | 30/07/10

      Rob those are policy announcements. And the “stuff-ups” are arguable. I’m talking about ACTUAL performance whilst in government.

      Labor’s performance - Terrible. Money wasted everywhere. Rorts, and deaths and policy failures abound.

      Liberal performance- Booming economy, elimination of $96 billion of inherited Labor debt, general all-round stability and good times.
      Only reason it came to an end was because of the brainwashing combination of the WorkChoices scare campaign and the Kevin07 media blitz.

      I know what government I had a better time under.

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      10:29am | 30/07/10

      Rosie says:08:25am; We don’t believe in communism so shutting someone’s voice down isn’t what we’re about like you chaps seem to believe. As for leaks the reality is the substance of the leaks are in all reality pretty lame and really goes to show there is actually a democratic process within the ALP. The real problem is you always get out the liberal translation booklet (the red one that say’s Mao on the front of it) and assume something different. You know you got to stop using that little red book and you might have some steady leadership… what is it up to now 3 in 3 years?

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      11:15am | 30/07/10

      swingermadeuphermind says:09:04am; i think your getting ahead of yourself, the cut off Abbott intended was 150k so 200k wouldn’t qualify. And your right it isn’t a stuff it is just a stuff that he appears to now have released 2-3 versions…. oh oooop’s that’s a back flip.

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      11:25am | 30/07/10

      TimB says:09:05am;Rob those are policy announcements. And the “stuff-ups” are arguable. I’m talking about ACTUAL performance whilst in government.

      Well TimB if that is what he is like in Opposition one can only wonder where we’ll end up if he gets to PM.

      The reality is you fail to look at the big picture, with quotes like “Money wasted everywhere. Rorts, and deaths and policy failures abound.” is just repeated liberal spin. You to taken when posted else how wrong you assumptions are, so I’m not going to repeat the bleating. Tell mel one policy that failed to do what it was set out to do. Even the pink bats acchieve what it set out to do and that was stimulate the economy. attributing the deaths as ever so sad that that was has as much to do with the government as road crashes has to do with the RTA.

    • News Flash says:

      11:27am | 30/07/10

      The real scud missile is Julia Gillard’s boyfriend Tim Mathieson.

      How Julia Gillard gives him her taxpayer-runded car to drive, knowing that he was convicted of drink driving previously, I’ll never know.

      Now it turns out he’s clocked up several infringement notices in the taxpayer funded car.

      No wonder Labor is fighting so hard to keep him in the background.

    • Adam Diver says:

      11:27am | 30/07/10

      @ Swinger the idea of using someones wage as opposed to the minimum wage is to encourage, high earners and career people to have children. I will concede that perhaps this is not the most loving environment (although there may be many factors) but it sure would improve the gene pool because I really don’t want a welfare generation and the problems that this causes.

      The ironic part about Abbotts changes to his policy, whilst it comes across as half-baked, poorly thought out etc, is that they are improving it so that it is effective and workable before implementation. Labor supporters will use this as a point of attack but if you think of the way Labor implemented policy over the last 3 years it becames laughable that they attack amendments to policy.

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      11:33am | 30/07/10

      TimB says “Liberal performance- Booming economy, elimination of $96 billion of inherited Labor debt, general all-round stability and good times. ” yes and you conveniently forget the ALP inherited the GFC also I have never seen Petrol prices sky rocket under Labor like they did under Howard. The immigration intake blew out because of Howard policies it is Labor fixing that problem. Unemployment has gone down, interest rates are still lower than what Labor inherited 3 years ago. The IMF, World Bank and every other economist has stated the pre-empted stimulus by the Rudd government was a big factor in keeping us out of recession. You pick at little problems from what are huge programs and call it failure. I think you need to open your eyes and stop taking in the fairtales.

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      11:41am | 30/07/10

      Actually Rosie I think I’m wrong, but correct me if I am. It is really 4 leaders in 3 years. there was Howard, then that poor excuse of a leader Nelson, then Mr charisma Turnbull and now that mad as a cut snake and just a trust worthy Abbott.

    • watty says:

      11:53am | 30/07/10

      “Mentioning every woman in his life”

      Suggest you read the interview Gillard gave to ABC’s Carolyn Jones

      http://www.abc.net.au/austory/content/2006/s1586140.htm

      Relating how the then married Emerson swallowed her contact lenses in their hotel room or her relationship with a named Union heavyweight who wasn’t too keen to respond.

      The biggest step up in Abbott;s campaign is the outing of Gillard’s refusal to respond to questions about why it took the Deputy Prime Minister so long to admit Labor had gone off the rails and her role in the trainwreck.

      Cabinet confidentiality.  A coward’s defence and convenient excuse.?

      “jumping to populist causes”.Like this week’s Woman’s Weekly puff piece on the pro abortion Gillard?

    • swingermadeuphermind says:

      12:47pm | 30/07/10

      Rob r Charteris @ 10:33am - and how do you think that labour were able to keep Australia out of recession? Thats right…. it is because of the massive surplus that was left by Johnny and Pete. I voted for KRudd and I am not saying that the coalition would have 100% kept us out of defecit following on from the GFC - but I will say 100% that they would have kept us out of recession aswell and not have dived us quite this far back into the debt. KRudd was itching to spend that nestegg and even without the GFC I reckon we would be back in defecit.
      I don’t know the ins and outs of the policy (clearly) - but all I know is if Dad earns more than mum and mum has her couple months afforded by her employer… dad is going to “stick the govt for all he can” take an extended holiday (yes he will be looking after bub) but the old lets get the govt for all we can mentality will come into it. THAT is a waste of tax payers money. Why can’t we all just be happy with something as we have nothing now? Ideally,  the role of the caretaker parent needs to be quantified and paid across the board. Not in market terms either as the caretaker parent would be paid a mint. There should be a flat rate that goes to all. I get the concept that they are trying to get more babies out of the high earners, but wake up high earners - children are not a commodity and quite frankly, if the only reason why they are going to have kids is so that it doesn’t impact on their finances - well I don’t want them reproducing.

    • Tinsel says:

      01:24pm | 30/07/10

      Heaven help us all if The Mad monk wins and heaven help Australia

    • Anthony of WA says:

      09:33pm | 30/07/10

      Rob, is that you Persphone?

    • TimB says:

      10:19pm | 30/07/10

      Rob, if the insulation policy was such a success why did Rudd have to cancel it prematurely? Why did Garrett get stipped off of half his portfolio?  Why is it that the industry now has basically gone belly up? Why is it installers across the country have gone now bust whilst having huge stocks of now useless batts? Why have they been forced to let go of staff? Why did Labor then have to waste millions MORE on an inspection scheme to make sure the original install were done correctly?

      As for the BER….when you can achieve the same results for considerably less money, then yes it is a WASTE. Because there WERE rorts. This isn’t spin, this is proven fact.

      And for a final clear cut version of policy failure, I direct you to the words of your Exalted Leader herself. “Another boat, another policy failure” By her own words, Labor’s border proection policy is a complete failure.

      If Labor were doing so well, explain to me why Kevin Rudd got shafted.


      PS. As for your crack about leaders…*sigh*.  It’s rather sad that you have to resort to such an empty and pointless issue, but here’s my standard rebuttle:

      Keating, Beazley, Crean, Latham ,Beazley Mk II, Rudd, Gillard.

      Seems pointless doesn’t it?

    • Christian Real says:

      10:28am | 31/07/10

      Rob
      This story from written by Glenn Milne “How the taxpayer helped Tony abbott flog Battelines” was found at http://www.abc.net/unleashed/stories/s2965933.htm
      It seems that Tony Abbott used $6.651.96 of Taxpayers money to help him promote his book “Battlelines”  around Australia in 2009
      Another story on the same issue,written by online political correspondent Emma Rodgers, was found at : http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/07/28/2966058.htm
      Extracts from
      this story from The Daily Telegraph, “Tony Abbott’s $25 million work laws mess.”, wriiten by Simon Benson, on July 21, 2010 @ 12.00AM
      “Tony Abbott must break a key election promise on Workplace laws to allow the Coalition to declare war on the unions - or backflip on a $25 million savings policy announced yesterday’
      “A major budget plan to cut funding for union ballots and industrial elections,released yesterday as part of the Coalition’s workplace policy,appears to require rewriting of the country’s current workplace laws.”
      “It means Mr abbott must ditch a plank of his first election policy,or break his pledge to not make any changes to the Fair Work Act for the term of the next Parliament if elected.”
      “The apparent bungle has again exposed Mr Abbott on the Coalition’s most vulnerable election issue - the fear for a return to John Howard’s WorkChoices which cost the Coalition the last election.”
      “Mr Abbott has promised he will not make any legislative changes to the current workplace laws,declaring Workchoices “dead,buried, cremated.”
      Extracts from another interview (Abbott quizzed on immigration policy )on July 26/07/2010, with Kerry O’Brien :
      “Kerry o’Brien: “Well you said last Saturday that immigration in the last year of the Howard Government was actually 200,000 - was about, I think you said 200,000.”
      “Tony Abbott: “In the last seven quarters of the howard government.”
      Kerry O’Brien: “Well, I think it was about 210,000 in the last seven quarters of the Howard Government”
      Kerry O’Brien: well according to the Australia Bureau of statistics,it was actually 244,ooo for the calendar year in 2007 and rising, Correct? And the Howard Government was in office 111 of those 12 months.”
      Then there was where Kerry O’Brien replayed archieve footage from the 7.30 report, 27th July, 2009.
      “Kerry o’Brien: “You’ve also said that workplace relations,workplace reforms are unfinished business,that the next coalition government will have to revisit the workplace reforms that gave it so much political grief,in other words.revisit WorkChoices. So presumably you would expect that to be reflected in Coalition policy going into the next election.”
      TONY ABBOTT, THEN OPPOSITION FRONTBENCHER: Well, I certainly think that small business is more like a family than an institution,and I think to impose unfair dismissal laws on small business is gonna hurt employment, not help employment. The other point I make is that one of the drivers of prosperity in the Howard years was the ability of business to manage in ways that maximised the productivity of their workers,and that in turn meant more employment and it meant higher wages.”
      Kerry O’Brien: So you do want to revisit WorkChoices?”
      Tony Abbott: ” well, if we are going to have productive workplaces,we can never ring down the curtain on workplace reform. and the problem with the Rudd Government’s legislation is that it doesn’t just repeal WorkChoices.it doesn’t just repeal the Reith-Kernot legislation of 1996, it’s even undone the Keating-Brereton legislation of 1993,which was the start of workplace deregulation.”
      Tony “The Phony” Abbott is an appropriate name for The Opposition leader, who was caught out lying on a previous 7.30 report and Kerry O’brien interview.
      abbott’s classic statement was: “Don’t believe everything i say”

    • Christian Real says:

      10:47am | 31/07/10

      Tony Abbotts plan to cut company tax is a farce, scam and as phony as tony Abbott himself.
      It sounds good the way Abbott uses his words to try to manipulate and coerce the voters into believing the he is actually telling the truth.Coming from Tony (Don’t believe anything I say) Abbott, his policies will only be most likely believed by those most gullible imbeciles that can’t read through all his spin, lies and deceit.
      Abbott’s policy announcement of cutting company tax from 30% to 28% is flawed, simply because he has not added on the 1.7% levy (Tax)  that he plans to impose on businesses should he get elected, which will bring the companies tax bill to 30.2%, ).2 % more than they are paying now under the current Labor government.
      Tony Abbott should not throw stones at Labor over their mining tax(the big new tax) as he call it, when he, himself is imposing a 1.7 % brand new   big tax on businesses
      Perhaps this policy announcement by Abbott was unscripted, and therefore not the Gospel truth.
      No one could be ever certain whether Tony Abbott was actually telling the gospel Truth for a change.

    • Christian Real says:

      11:00am | 31/07/10

      Acotrel
      You appear to be right, Laurie Oakes,along with other journalists seems to be clearly showing their allegiances to The Liberal/National party and also seem to be firmly inbedded in the Liberal/National party headquarters attempting to flogg of their diatribe onto the voting public with their carefully orchestrated, prefabricated and manufactured stories.
      It is crystal clear that certain media outlets are drumming up, shoring up Liberal party support with their one-sided, smear orchestrated stories attacking the Labor party.

    • Christian Real says:

      11:47am | 31/07/10

      Rosie
      I don’t think that there is a rat in Labor party headquarters, and I also think these so called ‘leaks’ are orchestrated and manufactured from within the Liberal party.
      Abbott was right about a ‘Dirty Campaign”, what he failed to say that the ‘Dirty Campaign” would be concocted from within the Liberal party.
      I use to have respect for Laurie Oakes, but not any more, and his ‘sensational stories” simply amount to gutter journalism which he has allowed to happen by camping in the Liberal party campaign headquarters.
      If these stories were true, Laurie Oakes would have no hesitation backing them up with authentic proof, and he could start by revealing his ‘alleged source of information’, if there is one to begin with.

    • Gregg says:

      01:54pm | 31/07/10

      Just classical Rob, very classical even for someone with no claims to class!
      ” Imean if you really believe then I guess you’ll believe anything “
      Is that one out of the fair shake of sauce bottle’s kevlemon leak or Julia’s grip of a sausage!

      I reckon all that party churning is churning you guys too!

    • Macon Paine says:

      06:39pm | 31/07/10

      Come on Christian get Real.

      If you have evidence Laurie Oaks has some allegiance to the Liberals post it as it will help your claims, otherwise dont make false allegations it’s not very “Christian ” of you. Just because Oaks has contacts with a leaker in the Labor party (Mark Latham believes it’s Rudd because he has a track record) and is releasing this information to the public (Oaks is doing democracy a wonderfull service by exposing Gillards Labor btw! thanks Laurie!) does not mean he is beholden to the Liberals.

      As I pointed out to the hapless “DC” in another thread before he/she ran away a few days ago the leaks are neither “prefabricated” nor “manufactured” unless Wayne Swan is lying here: http://www.theage.com.au/federal-election/we-cant-stop-the-leaks-says-swan-20100728-10w5p.html

      Are you aware of the irony of claiming that certain media outlets are running a smear campaign against Gillard/Labor by using all ABC references to attack Abbott?

      Anyway I wouldn’t give up on Oaksie just yet, I know he’s got all the blithering Laborites (like DC, Seano, Rob r Charteris etc) knickers in a knot after holding Gillard’s character up to the light of the day (if you dont like what you see now you cant blame Oaks) but he is a highly respected impartial journalist, im 100% sure if he had something similar on Abbott he would not heistate to pull the trigger on it and calling into question his integrity and motives is really the last resort for you Laborites.
      Besides if Oaks reveals his source the leaks (and laughs!) will end and the public will be denied their right to see the side of the disingenuous Julia Gillard that Labor so desperately wants us not to see. I suspect Oaks will reveal his source after the election. At least I certainly hope thats the case, these leaks are providing me with endless hilarity as I read the one eyed Labor supporters rebuttals which basically consist of the old red herring followed closely by two wrongs make a right nonsense.

    • Christian Real says:

      07:47am | 01/08/10

      Prior to the election campaign Tony Abbott said that he expected a dirty election campaign, but it seems that he failed to say that it would be orchestrated from within the Liberal party.
      I use to respect Laurie Oakes, but it seems that he has sunken to an all time low with his calibre of journalism, and this ‘leak’ appears to be as ficticious as the stories, and unless Laurie Oakes can prove these stories are authentic, then his credibility and integrity seems to be on the line.
      These “stories” would even be thrown out of court, unless the evidence and the identity of “the leak’(that if this leak really does exist) was produced and presented to the court.
      Until Laurie oakes can forward the name, the identity of his “leak” then this story is just that ‘A story”, with no solid foundation, backing or credibility.
      Regardless of this, why does the media waste it’s time on stories like Oakes as presented, when there are far more important issues and matters that need to be addressed.
      These unimportant stories seem to be simply a distraction, a smokescreen, orchestrated by a desperate opposition, who appears would stop at nothing to gain power and control of our Country.

    • Freeman says:

      07:58pm | 01/08/10

      hilarious,  Christian Real

      “Tony Abbott must break a key election promise on Workplace laws to allow the Coalition to declare war on the unions - or backflip on a $25 million savings policy announced yesterday”

      why do you offer these lies as argument? that was the ALP’s rhetoric for less than 12 hours because they realised abbott was right, he can just change the electoral act, not altering the fairwork legislation to acheive his goal. is your goal just to flood the site with as much propaganda as you can?

      “abbott’s classic statement was: “Don’t believe everything i say””
      that’s too funny. do you understand that you use inverted commas when you are QUOTING SOMEONE, and not when you are offering your own twisted interpretation of their statement? to claim to quote someone and then offer your own words is lying Christian

    • Rosie says:

      08:30am | 30/07/10

      Sorry Richard I only read a few lines of the ariticle, enough to tell me that at the moment I should be concentrating on why I shouldn’t vote for Tony Abbott and his team. From what I read there was nothing there that was convincing.

      Must be difficult defending a party that is now trying to defend and justify its existence?

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      09:01am | 30/07/10

      Rosie says:07:3oam; “Must be difficult defending a party that is now trying to defend and justify its existence?”

      How would you know? you only read a few lines lol…. comrade Rosie strikes again!!

    • Nicole says:

      10:51am | 30/07/10

      @Rosie, I got at least half way. I’m going to print Richards rant out, so when I have trouble sleeping, I’ll pull it out, read the first few lines of dribble and fall straight to sleep. I might even make a few extra copies, stick em in the toilet in case we run out of loo paper. That’s all it’s good for.

    • Jack Thomas says:

      11:20am | 30/07/10

      Poor Richard, still working out his white midele class guilt.

      As a good Geelong Grammar boy, shouldn’t you have drunk that out of yourself by your early ‘20’s? At least you have kept up the tradition of not really working for a living, while your class mates inherit Daddy’s farm you do basically the same thing by bludging off the taxpayer and union saps in public sector type jobs.

      Anyway, you are in very dangerous territory talking about the cost of living here, especially when you have no economic skills or responsibility.

      Here are a few things you glossed over - Grocery Watch, the power bills of the average punter,

      You’d be better just talking about Julia Gillard’s affair she once had with the then married Craig Emmerson…

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      11:37am | 30/07/10

      Nicole says:09:51am; Ouch!, couldn’t imagine wanting to use printing paper as toilet paper

    • Christian Real says:

      12:31pm | 01/08/10

      Nicole
      You must spend a lot of time in the toilet, and will undoubtably make plenty of copies for your own personal use.
      If you are having trouble sleeping Nicole, perhaps you can buy a copy of Tony Abbott’s book ‘Battlelines” to read, (the book he used $6,651.96 of taxpayer’s money in travel expenses claims) to promote.
      Extracts from a news story “Battlelines drawn over Abbott travel claim rorts.”, written by Emma Rodgers, and was found at http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/07/28/2966058.htm
      “An investigation from Glenn Milne writing for The Drum says while touring the country to attend promotional events for his book,which was released last year,Mr Abbott claimed the cost of some of the airfares”
      “The Drum has matched the dates of Mr Abbott’s book tour to expense claims he made, which are detailed in department of Finance documents.”
      “The documents show that Mr Abbott made several claims for expenses at times that coincide with events he attended for the book.”
      “His claims include:the cost of airfares for an event in Canberra on July 30 at the national press Club, two in Melbourne on August 3 and 6 at Dymocks book shop and at a “Liberal Party Book Club Event”, one in Brisbane at the Brisbane Institute on August 11 and one in perth on August 15.”
      “The cost of the travel that coincides with his promotional events came to $5,689.36 with another $962 for the cost of using Commonwealth cars on the trips.”

    • Nicole says:

      04:44pm | 01/08/10

      Y A W N ! ! !  Oh Christian I think your comment shall join Mark’s dribble.
      PS: Queen Jooolya and her puppet masters are enough to give anyone the sh!ts.

    • Northern Steve says:

      12:34am | 02/08/10

      Christain,
      How do you suggest politicians deal with travel claims when they have both official business and party business to attend to?
      And when you answer that, make sure you cc it to Julia, who recently attended a party fundraiser in Brisbane, as well as a soldier’s funeral (official business).

    • TimB says:

      08:59am | 30/07/10

      Richard you take aim at Tony for performing a simultaneous tax cut & levy, but you conveniently forget that your party are doing the exact same things?

      Lets examine the Labor side of the picture.  Your cuts on company tax don’t come in until 2013-14 (although I can’t expect you to know that when even Julia doesn’t know), and in the meantime your party will be trying to drop an ETS on ALL businesses. Plus you’re expecting them to cover a 3% rise in Super.  Then you’ve got the mining tax on our major export industry.

      Put together, these are going to utterly wipe out your company tax breaks, and then some, and most likely before the breaks even come in. In the meantime all the rises in the cost-of-living stuff that you say the Liberal tax will cause, will DEFINETLY happen with your taxes, and across ALL sectors of the economy, not just the small section Tony’s parental leave levy is aimed at.
      The kicker is that the 1.7% levy is only temporary untill the Coalition can dig us out of the debt hole that your failed management of the economy has dropped us into.  Your taxes will be permanent.

      Don’t try to claim that Labor have the better economic plan. Your have more taxes, higher taxes, and absolutely no clue.

      Oh and PS: Attacking Tony for his migration policy figure? Is that anything like announcing extra health funding as a “new” policy, when you already put it in the budget 2 months ago?

      The stink of hypocricy surrounds you.

    • Phil says:

      09:44am | 30/07/10

      Tim its very funny that Mr Marles gloats over 3 tax cuts which were pretty much copied from the Libs at the last election. They pulled the pin on the high end ones but that fits with the labor ethos of Politics of Envy.

      He then gloats about the pension increase which his own leader questioned because many oldies dont vote labor. This increase was paid out of borrowed money.

      Face some facts Richard, labor at the last election promised everything but the second coming of christ in this term of government, all designed to put pressure on the cost of living. Think Grocery Watch, Fuel Watch etc etc. They then tried three times to introduce a tax on everything ETS which would have further increased the cost of living but without being able to tell us how much the planet would be cooled or less hot in 20 years.

      They will again bring in this type of tax, and that is what Mr Abbott refers to. Coles and Woolworths are putting up their prices in a way that does correlate to the price paid for food at the farm gate. That is a fact. The price paid for meat has increased to the producer from 1.49 a kilo to 2.06 a kilo live weight. Dont think the shopping centres in the past few years have had a 57c a kilo increase to you Richard.

      If we are to have a carbon tax it should be all inclusive, no exemptions. No opt out, a small rebate for pensioners only. That was its user pays. If and I am not in agreement with Queen Joolya of the planet Ears we are to take this climate change then everyone should do their bit.

    • watty says:

      12:04pm | 30/07/10

      An air of mendacity pervades the house of Labor and the spokemen are sounding ever more desperate in their defence of Comrade Julia.

    • acotrel says:

      09:20am | 30/07/10

      Abbott is a no-hoper. He should ignore the Liberal party spin doctors, they keep bringing out hoary old chestnuts.  Now it’s ‘law ℴ’, next it’ll be ‘reds under the beds’ or they’ll find some poor unfortunates to bash, and use as election fodder!

    • watty says:

      11:59am | 30/07/10

      Reds under the bed.Please check with Craig Emerson.Sorry. Craig only knows about Red in the bed.

    • Evan Findlay says:

      06:32pm | 30/07/10

      Acrotel,
      He hasn’t bad mouthed the aborigines yet, they should be up next.

    • Christian Real says:

      12:59pm | 01/08/10

      Evan Finlay
      I though Abbott has already did bad mouth Aboriginals when he said those on the dole should pick up papers on the roadsides,I wonder why Abbott didn’t include unemployed Non Aboriginal people as well in in little rant, perhaps he is racist after all, or maybe he plans to use the unemployed Non Aboriginal people in one of his mining mates mines.

    • KH says:

      09:24am | 30/07/10

      Given Tony’s propensity towards making off the cuff policy remarks, its hard to tell whats real and what isn’t.  I haven’t heard one convincing policy statement from the Coalition in this campaign.  After just a couple of years in opposition, they simply aren’t ready to take back government.  I hope they don’t win. If they do, Canada is looking more attractive as a place to live.

    • Eric says:

      10:08am | 30/07/10

      Looks like it will be Canada then - enjoy.  Vancouver is a lot like Auckland.  I lived there once.

    • KH says:

      10:59am | 30/07/10

      We’ll see Eric.  I am old enough to remember the ‘unelectable’ Paul Keating…....................still my favourite PM…..........

    • Adam Diver says:

      11:32am | 30/07/10

      Went to the respective website for the parties to find details on policies for another post. Labor did not have policies they had “agendas”. Detail was light as well.

      But if you mean policy ideas that you like then that is another story. Other than the disability policy and the NBN (cost issues aside) there is really no decent policy coming out of the labor camp.

    • Ryan says:

      12:43pm | 31/07/10

      Well what a clean out of yellow bellied rats we will have if Tony gets elected. It seems that there are many like KH here above who will run like rats at the first sign of the smallest inconvenience, one can only assume they care so little for our country that if some agressor were to declare war on Australia and we needed people like KH to stand shoulder to shoulder with us, the only part of them we would is is the blinding yellow streak as they turn their backs on their country.
      I personally hope for this only reason that Tony gets elected, to get rid of these yellow bellied dropkicks.

    • Christian Real says:

      08:50am | 01/08/10

      KH
      You are so right, one would not know whether tony Abbott’s policies were written or unwritten statements, the Gospel Truth, or just plain lies like he has became accustomed to.
      Abbott appears to have stretched the truth so much since he has became Opposition Leader, it is becoming increasingly harder to pick out the actual truth from the spin and the lies.

    • acotrel says:

      10:52pm | 01/08/10

      I seem to be hearing a lot of people talking about emigrating, these days.  Perhaps Australia might become a fascist utopia after all, when all the moderating influences have departed?

    • Northern Steve says:

      12:53am | 02/08/10

      Rob,
      At least we don’t have any problem picking the lies and spin from Julila.

      Man I wish this was all captured on webcam.  I would love to see Rob r Charteris say Laurie Oakes was a Liberal stooge with a straight face!

    • Denny Crane says:

      09:28am | 30/07/10

      Well Richard, its not Tony with the scud missiles, but yourself, you are attempting to land some blows, but yet none actually hit.

      Why dont you ask your leader for some direct answers when she has been asked questions, the night of the long sword when Rudd was removed, that was days of the roman empire, she still wont answer was a deal done.

      Then when asked about old people not voting labor again she refused to answer.

      Have a look at your leader, whenever asked a question that is hard she will not answer but wait, speak to the factional power heads who then tell her how to answer this.

      On my comment of the roman empire, your party is following it to a tea, Knife the leader in the back, send the country broke, then come up with pie in the sky ideas for people to believe.

      Ask julia about the rail link in brisbane, which will never happen, as they would need to duplicate the rail service from petrie to northgate as well, how much is that going to cost another billion, if she so wanted to assit those on at redcliffe, all was needed was bridge shorncliffe to redcliffe to extend train service

    • Reg says:

      12:20pm | 30/07/10

      I love they way she holds command eh Denny? Lawrie would hate that, having his self-perception diminished never sits well with a journalist and most especially those of the old school. How’s the Mad Cow going?

    • Phil says:

      12:46pm | 30/07/10

      Reg the mad cow is our current PM

    • Adam Diver says:

      09:31am | 30/07/10

      I commented on the opposing piece so I should probably do the same here for balance. You make some good points so I will leave it to coalition supporters to find the holes in the argument.

      I will have a crack at this one smile
      I actually think its fairly accurate except for a few points

      1. Access to the treasury is reserved for the government until an election is called where the opposition can have equal access. A policy can not be properly costed 2 months before an election is called by an opposition.

      2. The tax cut will help small to medium businesses as well as remove the burdon on large busineses for the paid maternity scheme. Net result is positive. Probably a bad line of attack for labor IMO.

      3. If the immigration rate is droping why has labor been so quiet on the issue until Abbott made the anouncement. Gillard was promoting a sustainable australia and did not want to mention declining immigration? Were you setting a trap or thought that a natural reduction in imigration by 130,000 was not mentioning during this debate?

    • Roja says:

      12:04pm | 30/07/10

      1. ‘Government’ is made up of the elected officials of this country.  Just because Abbott is opposition leader doesn’t mean he doesn’t have access to treasury.

      2. Seems a reasonable place to attack - why Abbott is not planning to simply pay for the Maternity Leave out of govt coffers, then when the budget is in balance in 3 years as he says he can apply the company tax cuts.  Much less burden on business (small or big), with little to no real practical difference to the budget.  Unless that is he expects a similar BER style cost blowout that is common in this country,  we are a savvy bunch of people when it comes to manipulating govenment schemes to our own advantage - hey boss (dad, cousin, best mate) can I have a payrise just before I go on mat leave, you know I am qutting anyway as I’m looking after the kids for the first 5 years I just want to get more out of the government while I can…

      3.  Labor came straight out and ridiculed Abbott for his claims of immigration cuts - the problem was, they were the exact numbers that had already been planned and announced by labor for quite some time (like post GFC quite some time).

    • Northern Steve says:

      12:43am | 02/08/10

      Roja,
      Point 2 - I would imagine that they would use the previous years taxable income, rather than the pay in the last week.  Normally these sort of payments based on income have some fairly rigorous checks on them so that they don’t get rorted

    • Timbo says:

      09:55am | 30/07/10

      I read both the Liberal and Labour articles. Labour has a lot more negatives against them that the Libs. Richard had a hard effort scraping up enough material for an article this week. Tony has the upper hand.

    • Eric says:

      09:58am | 30/07/10

      Give it up Rob Charterise - you are worse than a broken record.  Flogging a dead horse.  Stick to your day job as a ......?  Not sure: Is it (i) Union Organiser or (ii) card carrying member of the ALP?  Whichever, your comments are dull and repetitive and add no substance to any debate.

    • john says:

      04:34pm | 30/07/10

      Much like yours Eric.

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      05:39pm | 30/07/10

      Eric says:08:58am; aaaaawe wud da madda, the truth hurts eh’ or is it you just cant handle it. Like John says “Much like your Eric”. Now you cant let the snivelling libs have all the fun eh’ comrade

    • Evan Findlay says:

      06:29pm | 30/07/10

      Like you can talk Eric. The blatant politically bias drivel you continually subject us too. And the most annoying part, although a very common trait amongst the conservative voter, all opinion and no fact.

    • iansand says:

      10:06am | 30/07/10

      Positives for Labor, Richard.  Policies we can believe?  Where are those?  For the second time you have blown your chance to take some positive spin into the camp of the enemy.  Why am I not surprised?

      We know what’s wrong with Tony, but we also think that there is not a lot going for Jules.

    • Darren says:

      10:28am | 30/07/10

      Interesting to see tony Abbott @ Essendon, Peter Costello’s club. I wonder what else Tony and Peter might have shared in the past?

    • R says:

      10:40am | 30/07/10

      Whilst off topic, and it may have been asked and answered before, but what ever happened to the chick (I assume the commenter was female) that posted by the name “persephone”?

      After Rudd was replaced she just disappeared… was she one of his staff maybe? Or now posting under a different name?

    • TimB says:

      11:22am | 30/07/10

      I generally don’t like to accuse people here of being “staffers”, there’s no proof for it and it just seems like a cheap attempt to discredit the other side.
      That being said on the off-chance Persehpone WASN’T your average general public commentator, my theory would be she was Krudd’s wife Therese. Would explain why she was constantly defending him then vanished the day he was dumped raspberry

    • Adam Diver says:

      11:36am | 30/07/10

      That truly is a great mystery and the punch is not the same from her demise. I assumed she dissapeared after defending Rudd for months only to have the ALP say he was a dudd. There is no comeback to that.

    • Saskia says:

      12:22pm | 30/07/10

      What about ‘Chong’ as well?  Persephone and Chong defended Rudd to the death on every issue, every disaster, bungle after bungle after bungle after bungle, lie after after lie after lie.

      I sort of admired their mad loyalty.  Clearly they were Rudd staffers who were sacked along with Rudd or who are now so disillusioned with politics that they have given up the ghost.

      How about giving a ‘Persephone’ award each day to the poster who displays the most insane logic or spins the best defence of the indefencible?

    • TimB says:

      12:50pm | 30/07/10

      @ Saskia. Let’s just save time and give it to Rob r Charteris by default raspberry

    • Julie Coker-Godson says:

      05:43pm | 30/07/10

      ....they seek her here, they seek her there
      they seek her everywhere,
      that damned illusive Persephone…...(with apologies to whoever wrote the original!).

    • B. Dyer says:

      11:17pm | 30/07/10

      Congratulations, Saskia ! You’re our first winner !

    • Holly says:

      11:25am | 30/07/10

      R says you asked about Persephone - Persephone - Greek goddess of the underworld.  Yes co incidentally she did disappear at the same time as Rudd so I assumed this was pseudonym for staffer.  Could she therefore be in the running for Laurie’s “Deep Throat”?

    • Kevin "the Snake" Rudd says:

      11:57am | 30/07/10

      Marlesy - you were clearly talking about Julia in this article and News must have bungled the names.

      Spot on about Julia - she and her party are a train wreck.

    • watty says:

      01:00pm | 30/07/10

      Rob r Charteris .Straight from the cast of “Hollowmen”? Definitely P.M.‘s Office material should Labor be returned.

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      05:41pm | 30/07/10

      Now you shouldn’t be commenting on my good looks ;  ) but as usual another snivelling lib resorting to cheap shots

    • neil says:

      02:33pm | 30/07/10

      Lets hope the Krudd and Chicken Little show keeps rolling on for the next three weeks

      The way labor has imploded this week is giving the election to Abbott on a plater. Every day a new poll swings a bit more Abbotts way.

    • Anthony says:

      02:46pm | 30/07/10

      If Labor was already delivering those immigration cuts why did they not mention it last week when it was the hot topic? Exactly, more Labor spin.

    • Christian Real says:

      12:03pm | 01/08/10

      Anthony
      The only spin is coming from Tony Abbott and the Liberal/National party.
      This is extracts from an interview between Tony Abbott and Kerry O’Brien on the 7.30 report, July 26/07/2010.
      Kerry O’Brien: “But let’s just nail this down,because even if Julia Gillard doesn’t change her policy one iota,and they have already changed the policy with regards to intakes of students coming in,they’ve tightened up rorts that first developed under the Howard Government - and again, I’m sure you’ll be honest enough to acknowledge that;they’ve tightened up rorts so there will be fewer students coming in,looking and assuming that they will get permanent residency.But even if she does absolutely nothing more, isn’t it true that immigration will continue to come down sharply in the next two years.?”
      Tony Abbott: “Well,there’s a private sector forecast out,but there’s no government forecast out,there are no government figures out and that same private sector forecast says it will be back to 250,000 in 2015 under the policies of the current government.”
      Kerry O’Brien: ” That’s five years from now.But according to Immigration department,net migration into Australia for the financial year just ended,is down to between 230,000 and 250,000 from that 300,000 figure.According to the BIS Schrapnel report that you’ve just referred to,net migration down to 175,000 by June next year, 145,000 the following years. So it seems your new migration policy is already - is going to happen anyway, no matter who’s in government?
      This article was found at : http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2010/s2964833.htm

    • Randal says:

      03:56pm | 30/07/10

      Now Dick, let’s drill down on your statement, under the ALP we have seen net migration intake top out at over 300,000, this is despite your own Prime Minister claiming that she does not believe in a ‘Big Australia’, yet according to the Inetergenerational Report if your current intake numbers continue Australia will have a population of in excess of 36 million by 2050.

      This was a number your previous Prime Minister was very happy with, and despite all the hyperbole by the current PM refused to nominate either a number or the cuts she would make to migration…

      Amazingly when the opposition takes a stand, in comes the rubbery figures and the ‘me to’ crowd who amazingly have discovered after Abbott’s announcement that ‘hey presto’ we will have the same number under our policy.

      Tell me Dick, where was this number when the ‘Big Australia’ was an issue under Rudd, or when Julia picked up the dog whistle and started to link refugees to population issues…

      Just more rubbery figures by the party who somehow managed to cut 6 billion out of the profits tax only to magically have the majority of it re-appear by having treasury alter the estimates.

      Nothing but more spin Dick and the electorate has had enough and that is why come August 21 the electorate will throw you and your cronies out on your backsides, as you cannot be trusted with the books or your policies.

    • Christian Real says:

      08:39am | 01/08/10

      Randal,
      The only rubbery figures comes from you, your Liberal mates, and your “Squeaky clean Leader”, Mr “Don’t believe everything I say’ Abbott.
      A new slogan for the Liberal party could be : “The Libs(especially their Leader,Tony Abbott) tells fibs.

    • Mick says:

      04:17pm | 30/07/10

      If your going to use an analogy at least get it right. Scud missles where cheap, brutal and pretty damm effective. They could launch from mobile units easily customisable (so that less advanced countries could use them) and reliably hit thier targets. Sort of like Abbott. Actually keep using it cant think of a better thumbs up for Abbott then that

    • Reg says:

      08:44pm | 30/07/10

      Yeah why not Mick, our wheat scandal probably paid for some of them and the Liberals deserve to profit from their support of Saddam, despite their apparent acceptance that he has nuclear weapons. Good God I’ve fallen into the ways of sarcasm. Bite my tongue.

    • Mick says:

      10:00am | 31/07/10

      You mean the weapons he never had, that they never found, because they where not there to be found? Yeah that’s a tough one.

    • Reg says:

      10:47pm | 01/08/10

      Ah but Mick you neglected to mention all the money the Australian farmers had paid to support Saddam via the The Wheat Board, even BEFORE they knew the weapons were not there. Unless of course they knew all along that there were no such weapons. Now there’s a slip.

    • trevor.p says:

      04:56pm | 30/07/10

      You can put your spin for any party you like,it sounds like most of you are all
      pushing the barrel for the party you have always voted for but like it or not
      it will be the swinging voter again who will decide the election,at least they think about both liberal-labour before comeing to a decision and study both
      parties policy.

    • Carl Palmer says:

      05:54pm | 30/07/10

      Hmm $100,000,000 per day interest on our debt, I’d say that’s a stuff up of gigantic proportions whichever way you want to carve this up. And yes they you doing a fine job of caving up the economy. Ah yes the GFC doom doom doom - chicken little stuff. 

      You can then add the $800,000,000 (that’s near 1 billion!) that’s in the budget to fix the bats stuff up and let’s not forget the 4 dead.  Please don’t trot out the” it wasn’t the Governments fault” - oh I’m sorry it was someone else….  If the ALP can’t take responsibility for their own BATS program then there isn’t much hope for anything else let alone the economy.

      The above is real - not fabricated.

      Mr Abbott may not be the “polished” performer when it comes to talking but as the URL below highlights he’s not bad on delivering – yes to deliver something material, something this govt could learn from. The ALP has been in power for 3 years and is unable to place a tick(s) against the litany of promises made back in 2007. The Govt’s failures are well documented here at The Punch.

      The CV of the Govt has too many crosses, lots of red ink and lacks substance and vision for our future. This PM has an “L” plate stuck on her forehead.

      As the above highlights, the current ALP Govt poses too much of a risk moving forward. I for one do not trust this government with my money, my security and the wellbeing of my country. As for company tax - I wouldn’t be too worried about a couple of % points here or there, I’m absolute petrified at the mere thought of an ETS / CPRS? The economic ramifications are scary.

      http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/abbotts-record-suggests-he-could-do-rudds-job-20100618-ymw7.html

    • Lurch of Perth says:

      12:21am | 31/07/10

      I have often wondered on this point.
      The unions are in effect businesses, they employ, pay tax ect effectively gain all of the benefits that a business normally is entitled too.
      Why do they continue to harp about on issues of yesterday to make themselves more relevant to mainstream society today?
      With the advent of workchoices, I believe that the unions had a grand opportunity to reinvent themselves as employee advocates.
      A union could have quite easily oversaw an IEA or WPA if a member asked for the assistance and I would imagine that they could probably even have charged a fee for service like a lot of other businesses do.
      The ACTU could have managed this quite easily in my opinion had they wanted to.
      The world was changing yet the union movement wasnt or couldnt change with it so they fund a campaign and then lean on the ALP to change things to suit the way that they like to do business.
      I imagine that all businesses would like to be able to fund the same sort of campaign and then get their way and before people start yelling CCI it should be remembered that 99% of small business arent members of these organisations.
      That aside, perhaps a few posters or even the writer of this article could explain to me why the union movement requested and gained preferential treatment from a federal government to legislate it or its activities into relevance when the same opportunity couldnt / wasnt to be offered to other businesses.

    • Gregg says:

      02:14pm | 31/07/10

      I’‘m not too sure which is funnier, the article or that so many of the clan got out early to support anything they hope will look sweeter for them.
      Richard, the debate is so old news now but just to comment in general:
      His first substantive line was: “This election is about a fair go for families struggling with cost of living pressures.”

      It was a good start. It expressed a sentiment with which we all agree. For Labor’s part, three income tax cuts in a row and the largest ever increase in the pension, after a decade of neglect, is just a taste of our approach to tackling the problem.
      Doesn’t really matter I suppose that a mere 20B surplus had been left by the outgoing government and I seem to recall that some tax cuts were part of the former governments policy, and just maintained by Labor for they did have that $20B.

      ” Having placed cost of living as the very first issue of this election, Tony was then asked the predictable question from Malcolm Farr and David Speers about how his policies would help the household grocery bill. Tony responded: “… government can’t with the stroke of a pen reduce grocery prices …”
      It might be the great issue of the day but don’t ask Tony to do anything about it.
      But Labor with their massive splurging that has driven up interest rates, inflation and state/local governement services fees etc. will?
      Not just a stroke but a master stroke of honesty and that is something severly lacking from Julia ducking and weaving to evade until cornering herself and returning another day to put out what sounds most plausible.

      The latest and greatest policy announcement, the NBN!
      Now even you ought to know that Get Dumber Conroy has been spruiking on this for well over a year ever since it was announced by that white haired guy - who was he, Oh that’s right, just former PM Krudd.
      Well guess what, this is another multi billion [ 40B in fact ] program that Conroy wants to believe that we should all believe him claiming no business plan is necessary.
      $40B! and no business plan!, no testing for economic justification!

      More waste on waste and you want to question what might drive up living costs!
      Crikey mate, even without a dam busting you ought to be able to see that something is askew with this one.
      You’re on one of those dodgy scuds and the landing ain’t looking too soft!
      Got a parachute have you?

    • Michelle says:

      05:20pm | 31/07/10

      Until Labor announces a cut in immigration, Abbott’s policy has not been touched by any shrapnel. Gillard called Abbott “tricky”. Yet Gillard is the tricky one by implying that Labor would reduce immigration in line with projections. Yet they haven’t. Abbott has the policy cuts. Gillard has made none. Gillard is full of it. She outdoes Rudd on spin. She is the master of spin. Nauseatingly so. It speaks to her character of being fundamentally untrustworthy and unknowable. She is a chameleon. Australians don’t like smooth talkers.

    • Christian Real says:

      08:32am | 01/08/10

      Michelle
      Like Tony Abbott, you appear to have a problem digesting the facts, and like other Liberals, you appear to believe and echo what ever Tony Abbott says.
      This is Extracts fro the 7.30 Report, on the 26/07/2010,  where Tony Abbott was interviewed by Kerry o’Brien:
      Kerry O’Brien : “Well,you said last Saturday that immigration in the last year of the Howard Government was actually 200,000, - was about,I think you said 200,000.”
      Tony Abbott: “In the last seven quarters of the howard Government.”
      Kerry O’Brien; “In the last seven quarters was 200,000?”
      Tony Abbott: “Well, I think it was about 210,000 in the last seven quarters of the Howard government.”
      Kerry O’Brien: “Well according to the australian Bureau of statistics, it was actually 244,000 for the calendar year of 2007 and rising. Correct? And the Howard government was in office for 11 of those 12 months.”

      Tony Abbott: “I’m not disputing your figures Kerry, but circumstances have changed. Australia’s cities are choking on their own traffic. We were booming in the Howard years. We have gone through a global financial crisis. There has been an economic slowdown since then. The public no longer support immigration the way they did under the Howard Government. We’ve got to rebuilt support for the immigration program,as happened under John Howard. The Australian government has gotta be in charge and the program has got to be in australia’s National interests and the public have gotta peceive it that way.”
      Kerry O’Brien : But isn’t it also true that the immigration figures have already come down sharply from that peak of 300,000, a peak of 300,000 under howard policies and will keep falling sharply in the next couple of years,probably below 150,000 no matter who is running the government.?”
      Tony Abbott: ” Well I don’t know what’s gonna happen under Julia Gillard’s policy because she hasn’t told us what her policy is. I’ve told you what my position is. It will come down under 170,000 in the first year of a Coalition government.”
      Kerry O’Brien: “But let’s just nail this down,because even if Julia gillard doesn’t change her policy one iota,and they have already changed the policy with regard to intakes of students coming in,they’ve tightened up rorts that first developed under the howard Government - and again, i’m sure you’ll be honest enough to acknowledge that; they’ve tightened up rorts so there will be fewer students coming in,looking and assuming that they will get permanent residency. But even if she does absolutely nothing more,isn’t it true that immigration will continue to come down sharply in the next two years.?”
      Tony Abbott: Well there’s a private sector forecast out,but there’s no government forecast out,there are no government figures out and that same private sector forecast says it will be back to 250,000 in 2015 under the policies of the current government.”
      Kerry O’Brien : ” That’s five years from now. But according to immigration Department,net immigration into Australia for the financial year just ended, is down to between 230,000 and 250,000 from that 300.000 figure. According to the BIS Sharpnel report that you’ve just referred to,net migration down to 175,000 by June next year, 145,000 the following year.So it seems your new migration policy is already - is going to happen anyway,no matter who is in Governmen?”
      This article was found at http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2010/s2964833.htm

    • Gregg says:

      09:04pm | 31/07/10

      Your picture was a good one Richard for with Tony’s support the Bombers went on for a resounding win against the Saints.
      A huge upset and something of an omen it seems.
      Julia’s Doggies ain’t doing so bad but then they had to offload Sackermanis, bit like he had lost support too and he does have that Queenslander stle white hair at times as well.
      But seeing she reckoned there was as much chance of her becoming PM as fullforward for them, must be a kind of false flutter she’s having.

    • Darryl Price says:

      09:19pm | 31/07/10

      “For Labor’s part, three income tax cuts in a row”. Wow. They would be the same three promised by Labor during the last election campaign to match the coalitions proposal when the worst Prime Minister in the history of this country was pretending to be just like John Howard but different and better?

    • acotrel says:

      12:07pm | 01/08/10

      How unfortunate for the coalition in Victoria, that the bushfire royal commission didn’t blame John Brumby ?  Both Ted Baillieu and Peter Ryan seem intent on making political mileage out of the tragedy.  Perhaps they might reflect on the role played by their own partys’ lack of action on emissions and climate change?

    • Ryan says:

      02:01pm | 02/08/10

      @acotrel : I am sorry but please point out what this article has to do with the coalition in Victoria and the bushfire royal commission? Even more entertaining would be for you to point out where I have an intent to create political mileage out of that tragedy.

 

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