Australia could lose its bid to host the World Cup of science, accused of being “cheap” and “arrogant”.

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Although it’s slipped under the radar, Australia is one of two countries short-listed as sites for the world’s biggest radio telescope.

The Square Kilometre Array is one of the “most important international scientific projects of the 21st century”, according to Brian Boyle, the SKA director at the CSIRO.

Thousands of radio dish antennas, with 10,000 times the potential of existing telescopes, will reach for the earliest traces of the universe searching for alien life.

It will shed light on the so-called dark ages – from 300,000 years after the Big Bang, to a billion years later when young galaxies were seen.

A tad more impressive than a bunch of blokes kicking a ball around a field, don’t you think?

While the World Cup would have added $5.3b to the economy, if you believe Sports Minister Mark Arbib, it would have cost billions in infrastructure destined to become a white elephant.

The SKA will be around for 50 years, creating thousands of jobs.

A consortium of 20 nations will contribute to the 12 billion dollar construction.

“Discoveries made with this huge instrument might be as profound as those made by Einstein, Dirac, Maxwell and Bohr; major advances in our understanding of how the physical world works,” the editor of Cosmos magazine, Wilson Da Silva, says.

“Investing in science improves society through the development of things like computer chips, mobile telephony, GPS, laser and digital technology – even renewable energy. You can’t say the same about the World Cup!” he says.

For once, Australia’s isolation is to its advantage. The site needs to be well away from man-made radio signals.

China, Argentina and the United States have already been knocked out of contention, leaving Southern Africa and Australasia.

Our SKA would be based at Mileura station, 350 kilometres northeast of Geraldton in Western Australia.

Other dishes would be distributed up to 5,500 kilometres across Australia and New Zealand.

The South African site centres on Karoo in the Northern Cape region, spreading to Botswana, Ghana, Kenya, Madagascar, Mauritius, Mozambique, Namibia and Zambia.

But there’s disquiet in scientific circles about Australia’s bid. “We’re doing it on the cheap,” according to one of the senior scientists on the project.

He says the lead agency – the Department of Innovation, Industry, Science and Research – has a “sense of entitlement” but no coherent strategy.

Meanwhile, South Africa is running an exciting, innovative campaign including competitions in school science classes and extensive media coverage.

Their lobbyists are said to be gaining traction with the European partners, by appealing to their sympathies for the African continent.

A decision is expected late next year, with construction due to finish by 2020.

For once, instead of being at the arse end of the world, we could literally be at the centre of the universe.

Whatever happened to the clever country?

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    • Eric says:

      04:42am | 07/12/10

      This would be a better use of money than the NBN. Australian technology has already benefited by the local development and production of low-noise semiconductors for use in this project. Why isn’t our government on it?

    • Peter says:

      08:47am | 07/12/10

      There are concerns about the level of Chinese involvement in the project, and whether they might just be listening for other things, a little closer to home than Proxima Centauri..

    • Chase Stevens says:

      09:12am | 07/12/10

      I think we’re more than able to build the NBN and this. But I do think that the Australian Government and the Australian Media have really let us down here. This is an awesome (and I do mean awesome) opportunity to promote the Sciences and Maths - which we certainly need to do - and we’re just letting it slide on by.

      wtf Australia. wtf.

    • acotrel says:

      05:30am | 07/12/10

      Who are the Australian heros? They’re certainly not Gus Nossel, Howard Florey or Rutherford.  The average punter wouldn’t have a clue who they were!  But everyone knows who Sam Newman and Eddie Maguire are! ! Nerds don’t rate in Australia.You’ve got t o get your priorities right, and join the cultural cringe!

    • Alex says:

      03:56pm | 08/12/10

      Rutherford was a New Zealander.

      It really doesn’t work if you consider yourself superior to the average punter, then get your facts wrong.

      I’m not even mentioning your grammar.

    • acotrel says:

      07:44am | 07/12/10

      I can’t agree with you Eric.  The NBN offers far greater benefits! You need to temper your love of the neoliberal ideology with consideration of what’s good for the future of Australia!  Getting the Liberal party back into power isn’t really the main priority in everything we do!

    • Nelly says:

      08:55am | 07/12/10

      Someone should tell this to Abbott

    • Jim says:

      02:06pm | 07/12/10

      Seems obvious to me that the only ones banging on about how great the NBN white elephant will be are the rusted on ALP mouth breathers…being a ‘neoliberal idelogist’ (that the new buzz word? tired of paradigm? I know I was!) is definately not a prerequisite to being able to see the NBN as a waste of ‘a minimum’ $43bn.

    • The Badger says:

      02:46pm | 07/12/10

      jim
      you and the rusted on conservative coalition of back to future are the ones banging on in an attempt to wreck or disrupt the most significant nation building project ever.
      The rest of us are eagerly anticipating the visionary changes this will deliver over the next few decades for ALL Australians.

      You just keep your head in the sand and be a good boy.

      A cynic is one who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.
      Oscar Wilde

    • James says:

      03:47pm | 07/12/10

      Indeed Badger, the NBN is going to make things like the SKA possible. Geraldton is one of the first NBN cities because they have already wired (or fibred) their way out to the SKA site. Science isn’t the only reason to want the NBN but it is a darn good one.

    • TheRealDave says:

      04:35pm | 07/12/10

      @Jim, well most business leaders, IT Professionals,  Educators etc all want the NBN yesterday ie people with more than half a brain and can look past next fortnight.

      As well as Labor ‘Mouth Breathers’.

      Unfortunately, we only hear from the vested self interest groups spreading FUD across one side of politics and the media who support them. Make no mistake, the Alliance, the Libs, News Limited, Telstra etc have a substantial vested interest to see the corrupt, entrenched, obsolete, overstretched and breaking down copper system stay intact - as is. They aren’t against he NBN for any other reason. Not to ‘save the Australian people money’, not to halt any ‘cost blowouts’ or because the average Aussie will have to fork out ‘thousands’ or even ‘to help out the bush’ or whatever rot they are spewing forth this week.

      Which begs me to ask ‘What the fuck are the Labor Party doing?!?!’ Honestly, this is a no-brainer. Well, it should be.

      If I was able to offer the Labor Party any advice on the subject of the NBN it would be:

      Plaster commercial television with a plethora of commercials (proudly brought to you by NBN Co and the Australian Labor Party, written and spoken by The RealDave) showing:

      At Work: Businesses using real time communications, proper video conferencing not dodgy skype and messenger on a desktop screen, linking offices, branch offices, have the actors audibly cancelling flights or choosing not to book flights/accommodation because they’ll hold a video conference instead, have them running real time video training sessions onto everyones desktop computer across the country saying that they could never have done this before and it will save them ‘thousands’ etc


      At Home, having dad selecting a TV show/movie to stream whilst someone else is in another room watching a YouTube HD clip, whilst another kid is playing Counterstrike, whilst mum is chatting via Skype (crystal clear) to grandma in Bendigo and her sister on the Gold Coast etc

      At School: having a class in Toowoomba going on a real time HD Video tour of the War Memorial in Canberra with a guide, streamed back via the NBN to a projector display in their classroom with the guide narrating the exhibits and the kids are questions back to the guide. Have a classroom of kids talking to another classroom of kids on the other side of the country or the other side of the world etc

      Of course we also need to highlight the medical angle since its been played up so have a rural doctor discussing the real time digital results of an elderly patient in his clinic with a specialist in Melbourne and another in Sydney or the like. Or having a patient hook up to a box at home and talking with his doctor about the results that come up on his PC in his clinic etc

      Thats off the top of my head. They need to get all the positive benefits out there so that more luddites and IT challenged people can see the benefits rather than go along with the fraudulent scaremongering rubbish that is being thrown about the press, in politics and in public.

      Oh and, I expect a healthy cheque coming my way if you choose to proceed with my ideas Ms Gillard/Mr Conroy and look forward to working with you wink

      Now excuse me while I try and get an extra 1.7mb out of my two ADSL2 connections so I can grab some more porn…...

    • JulesG says:

      09:50am | 07/12/10

      The last I heard was Australia was in front on this bid because of it’s geological and radio quietness, not to mention its political stability. There was even talk of rerouting iron ore trains to stop vibration and this was to be financially supported by the Feds. This would be a great coup for Australia and should be supported to the Nth degree.

      John Howard did a terrible amount of damage to Australia’s scientific reputation by not supporting this venture in the beginning and what’s worse, shutting down a near Earth object observatory costing a mere 16 million, leaving the southern hemisphere virtually blind. A lack of vision in more ways than one!

    • Paranoia says:

      09:57am | 07/12/10

      I’d much rather have smart people here than yet more footballers and their fans.  Bring on the SKA!!

    • nosthow says:

      03:33pm | 07/12/10

      If left to the Liberal Party and Tony “the Wrecker” Abbott Tracey we would all be shot back to the stone ages when Sir Robert strode the stage. Woman barefoot and pregnant at home. no decent wages, progress just a dirty word. As for us ever being the Centre of the Universe under the Coalition well I will join the Liberal Party before that happened ! hahhaaaaaaa

    • NicoleG says:

      06:28pm | 07/12/10

      The wouldn’t want you! BTW, how’s that over comb going?

    • JulesG says:

      09:52am | 08/12/10

      Nicole that’s not nice and especially when nosthow is perfectly correct. The libs will take us back 50 years and Australia will sink in a mire of mediocrity and lack of innovation.  If we loose the SKA then it’s down to Howard not seeing its worth and cancelling a NEO observatory sending Australia into the dark ages as far as the international scientific community are concerned and leaving the southern hemisphere virtually blind.

    • NicoleG says:

      10:47am | 08/12/10

      Jules, which one? The Libs or his over comb?

    • jane wallace says:

      06:22pm | 07/12/10

      Australia is one of two countries that has unique telescopes.
      why wasn’t that mentioned in our world cup presentation??

    • jane wallace says:

      06:24pm | 07/12/10

      whatever happened to the clever country of Australia ?
      The Liberal Party and the National Party ruled Australia from March 2 1996 to November 24 2007.

    • nosthow says:

      08:26pm | 07/12/10

      @Jane - another purler from you Jane - yes Little Johnny Howard not only drove Health back 40 years but also Education. Its now taken the Labor Party to get in and try and catch up for the lost 12 years. Infrastructure too is a dirty word for the Liberal Party !

    • stephen says:

      10:09pm | 07/12/10

      Our Universities are giving birth to graduates, some who can’t even read or write properly.
      Just who then, are they going to want to talk to ?

      (No, not the aliens, the Astronomers.)

    • Ross says:

      11:33am | 11/01/11

      Struth - we spend who knows how much on trying to get the Soccer World Cup down here, even though anyone with half a brain would have realised that FIFA were never going to send it to a country where soccer is still a long way behind other football codes in popularity. Yet this is an opportunity for real investment with a long-term payoff and a half-arsed attempt is crippling this fantastic opportunity. Just to clarify things, I am an old sportsman but I also see the value in science.

    • aimee w says:

      11:19am | 12/04/11

      Thing is (I’m South African, but living in New Zealand now), the political instability in Sub-Saharan Africa puts their chances of winning the bid at a substantial disadvantage.  And there are also other issues, such as the looting of equipment for sale/other uses. 

      Not that I don’t think Australia/NZ should be shouting much more loudly about this (awesome) project, but perhaps the issues above mean they’ve become a little…blase?

    • NievesLoraine29 says:

      09:23am | 23/12/11

      Every one knows that our life is expensive, but people need money for different issues and not every man earns enough money. Therefore to receive some personal loans or just bank loan should be a proper way out.

 

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