In the movie Horrible Bosses, the three bosses are characterised as The Psycho, The Maneater and The Tool. As bad as they sound, I’ve had worse. Three in particular stand out. I’m going to call them Cruel Boss, Angry Boss and Scaredycat Boss.


None of my horrible bosses were good bosses by any stretch. Yet years down the track, I feel like thanking them. That’s not to say I was happy working for them. I was miserable, and that misery often followed me home.

But through pain comes resilience. Through resilience comes strength. Through strength comes resolve. And through resolve comes the determination never to be the sort of person who abuses power relationships in the workplace.

Cruel Boss was a real bastard. Today, he’s a very rich bastard. So much for karma. Mind you, Cruel Boss ended up living on a really busy street, so hopefully the traffic keeps him awake at night. I know his conscience doesn’t.

Cruel Boss had the delightful habit of never, ever praising your work, but always pointing out your inadequacies and errors. In fact, he didn’t just point them out. He belittled you for them. In front of the whole office.

Then late in the day, when you were working unpaid overtime, he’d say “this better be done by tomorrow!”. He might have said thanks for sticking around, or highlighted something half decent you’d done. But no. The term “constructive criticism” just wasn’t in his phrase book.

You might wonder what on earth I learned from this creep. Well, I learned how I wouldn’t treat people in the future. More importantly, I was big enough to go home and ask myself if he was angry at me for good reasons.

And you know what? He was. Look, the guy was a jerk, but he had a few valid points. I was a bit full of myself in that workplace. I was young and overconfident, and I thought I knew it all. Seems Gen Y is not the only generation to have had this trait.

Point is, when I stopped thinking I knew it all, and started doing things his way, to the letter, beautiful things happened. I actually did the job better. It was a bitter pill to swallow, but it worked. Cruel Boss had methods which were actually worth following. Many objectionable people do.

Angry Boss was different. I actually liked Angry Boss, but oh boy, did the guy have a temper. Admittedly, we worked in an incredibly volatile industry where huge sums of money changed hands in an instant. That’d make anyone edgy. But this guy’s temper was way over the top.

From the minute we staff arrived at work to the moment we left, Angry Boss would bellow. Sometimes he yelled at us for our failings, perceived or real. Other times he just yelled about his wife, or the government, and we were the unfortunates who happened to be in the way.

When the anger was directed at you, Angry Boss would make you feel both useless and unloveable. He could make you dread coming to work, and render you so fearful of doing the wrong thing that you totally lost your nerve. When you were in that state, you inevitably made mistakes. Then of course, you got yelled at all the louder.

But Angry Boss had a couple of graces. For one thing, he was generous with his knowledge. Even on busy days, he would explain tricky concepts, and bring you into his secretive world. At least when you then copped his wrath, you understood why you were copping it.

Angry Boss also gave praise when it was deserved. That only happened occasionally, but when the praise came, you knew he meant it. Several times he took me aside and said “This is what I expect from you, you used your knowledge and your intuition well today, and that’s why you’re well paid”.

We were well paid too. Angry Boss’s industry was largely unregulated, which meant he could pay us what we liked. But he chose to pay us well, and that made us want to succeed, despite the fury.

The lesson here is not as simple as “suck it up if the money’s right”. Because that’d be a short track to depression for any of us.

The lesson is to understand that bosses have stresses. And to go home at night knowing that if you’ve applied yourself, and done your best, then whatever happens at work will wash over you. And that’s how it was. I’ve never been yelled at so much and not felt in the least emotionally scarred.

Angry Boss also helped my decision-making skills immeasurably. Like I said, his industry was volatile. It’s a tough world out there in any industry. You’ve got to be quick and smart to succeed. You simply will not learn that lesson at a love-in.

Scaredycat boss was a timid sort of fellow, who was a little bewildered to find himself promoted to the big chair when an experienced boss suddenly moved elsewhere.

Scaredycat boss took the business we worked in and toned-down everything about it that was cutting edge. Ironically, he had a strong and fertile creative streak, but his safety-first instincts over-rode his creativity every time.

Our workplace culture had been one where we dared each other to do bold things. We needed someone to increase the stakes, but Scaredycat Boss was the exact opposite.

What did I learn from him? Easy. Have a crack. Never, ever be scared of ideas or change. I mean, I knew this instinctively anyway, but it was amazing to be in a workplace where the dynamic of conservatism vs adventurousness played out so dramatically.

That’s not to say adventurousness is always the answer. There are of course numerous workplaces where conservatism should and does rule.

But a good boss should be smart enough to recognise which ethos fits where. Good bosses should be smart enough to know a lot of stuff. But you know what? When they don’t, you can either get bitter or get smart.

Or you can get out. Knowing when to walk is the most valuable lesson of all.

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    • acotrel says:

      06:16am | 26/08/11

      Some business owners promote sociopaths because they believe their workers need a hard time.  It is about manipulation and control.  There is a book worth reading on this subject, it is titled ‘Democracy and control in the workplace.’  Anyone who is a boss should lead by example, and be secure enough in themselves to be able to delgate without associated internalised panic.  When we employ people these days, we insist that they are trained for their position.  This requirement doesn’t seem to apply to managers ? Many don’t know the basics of risk management, OHS and quality management systems, or even the basics of relationships.  You might be interested to know that a bad boss is one of the prime reasons that I contribute to this forum.  Sociopaths are every where in our society, and some people promote them! He was 57 years old, living at home with mummy and daddy, a mini-milliomaire, supporter of the Liberal Party in a factory of 1000 unionists.  If he could make your day miserable, tha t made him happy !  He achieved nothing professionally in the 10 years I worked under him !  He destroyed the health of many people.

    • Joan says:

      08:24am | 26/08/11

      Not too bright, to stay and work with a nut case for 10 years. We all make choices- move on don’t work in a toxic enviroment. I agree though, it just takes one person to poison the enviroment and it is not only the boss. One boss I worked for was of passive nature, and employed a toxic, order screeching woman to manage the business , she talked her way into the job ( her previous employer glad to be rid of her obviously),  and made everybodies life a misery most days,  reducing young girls to tears . Not so easy to remove/ sack toxic staff under Industrial laws then and likewise now. In the end after two years of suffering I confronted her re her bullying, rude manner , stating cases/examples - and she quickly found another job but was unable to retain that past three months trial - the owners sacked her while they could without a cost to them.

    • acotrel says:

      09:50am | 26/08/11

      @Joan
      I don’t regret staying in that job, except for the effect it had on my health.  In every other way it w as professionally satisfying, and some of the stuff I did was at the cutting edge.  I learn’t a lesson - don’t cop a bullying sociopath - either bash him straight away, or go straight to the very top and refuse to work with him!

    • jf says:

      10:09am | 26/08/11

      acotrel says:06:16am | 26/08/11

      “in a factory of 1000 unionists.  If he could make your day miserable, tha t made him happy !  He achieved nothing professionally in the 10 years I worked under him !  He destroyed the health of many people.”

      Sociopaths are always going to be around. Bullies are always going to be around.

      What a pity that the union delegate didn’t do something about it rather than stand by, collect the dues of a 1,000 workers and do nothing.

    • Vaunted says:

      10:21am | 26/08/11

      Hey Acotrel, I’m looking forward to tomorrow’s thread, where we can talk about lazy, entitled, dishonest and incompetent employees we have risked everything for and supported over the years.

    • acotrel says:

      10:32am | 26/08/11

      @jf
      The union rep for the professionals became CEO of the factory without stepping down form his union job.  He didn’t recognise the conflict of interest, and no one who wanted to keep their job would tell him about it.
      As I said ‘the system runs on bullshit’.

    • Aitch B says:

      10:43am | 26/08/11

      @acotrel

      Ah…. so part of the problem was the fact that he supported the Liberal Party?

    • jf says:

      11:19am | 27/08/11

      acotrel says:10:32am | 26/08/11

      “The union rep for the professionals became CEO of the factory without stepping down form his union job.  He didn’t recognise the conflict of interest, and no one who wanted to keep their job would tell him about it.”

      As I said, what a pity that the union delegate didn’t do something about it rather than stand by, collect the dues of a 1,000 workers (professional or otherwise) and do nothing.

    • acotrel says:

      06:18am | 26/08/11

      The worst ones are the religous freaks!

    • Wag the dog says:

      07:11am | 26/08/11

      What, like a global warmist, or a pathological Abbott hater or something?:

    • Joan says:

      07:54am | 26/08/11

      And where did you find one those? Please expand Acotrel- how did tthis type of boss affect you in a negative way.- your working day ?

    • acotrel says:

      08:34am | 26/08/11

      Joan, I struck one in one of our largest telecommunications corporations.  He used to run a non-denominational prayer meeting each lunchtime.  If you wanted a rosy future, it was wise to attend.  He eventually died of Non -Hodgkin’s Lymphoma.  When my old immediate boss rang to tell me about it he was laughing.  I said ‘you shouldn’t laugh, the guy is dead’.  He said ‘many is the time I’d have liked to push him down the stairs’!
      The christian mafia is still strong in that organisation, they hold most of the top jobs.

    • Aaron says:

      09:00am | 26/08/11

      No, the worst ones are freaks, whatever form they’re in.. Although ‘encouraged’ prayer meetings each lunch time seems a little much.

    • Robinoz says:

      09:25am | 26/08/11

      I worked for a TAFE director who wasn’t a religious freak, but was a rabid catholic. He only promoted catholics, sent catholics to training, and supported them in whatever way was possible. Those of us who weren’t catholics got the rough end of the pineapple. Interestingly, there was also a camp of Masons. I was neither, so I had to strap on my helmet, dig in and just tough it out. After three years I left.

    • acotrel says:

      10:13am | 26/08/11

      @Robonoz
      In one company for which I worked for there was apparently before I started , a floor of mIcks, and a floor of billy goat riders.  It got so bad the CEO had to step in a nd move them all around out of their little cliques.  The day I started, I shook hands with the Enginee ing Manager and copped the funny handshake.  He immediately went down in my estimation.  I don’t support either side of that bullshit, and it can be very counterproductive.

    • Thomas Anderson says:

      11:04am | 26/08/11

      acotrel, when you are on your deathbed, and you turn to religion, please think back on all your redneck comments you made on this website and feel the shame you should be feeling now by all rights. Shouldn’t be too long for you now, old buddy.

    • egg says:

      02:39pm | 26/08/11

      @thomas anderson, when you’re on your deathbed, and you realise you’ve wasted your life making up a new parent to take care of you rather than living your own life, i’m sure you’ll feel the shame you should be feeling now. have fun with that. smile

    • Ricky says:

      02:45pm | 26/08/11

      religion is just a massive cult for people in denial. Question answered.

    • Tina says:

      06:58am | 26/08/11

      I had a boss who developed the habit of making me buy his lunch - for whatever reason. That would not have been so bad, if he didnt always order a special sandwich that you couldnt buy anywhere. I had to make an arrangement with the deli downstairs to buy the ingredients just for me! When I had the courage to tell him he said “I know. If there was a deli that had my favourite sandwich I would be able to get it myself, wouldnt I?”

    • Josh Rogan says:

      07:17am | 26/08/11

      Just like cops, bosses don’t become arseholes, arseholes become bosses.

    • acotrel says:

      07:28am | 26/08/11

      @Josh
      Your comment read as though all bosses are arseholes - that’s not true !  It’s just that some business owners are irresponsible in the way they select the leader of their workers, that you often get sociopaths in control.

    • Tina says:

      07:30am | 26/08/11

      I get so upset at these comments. When you think of cops you think of the guy giving you a speeding fine and yell at him, why he doesnt have anything better to do than annoying friendly citizens. But apart from the fact that a speeding fine is caused by your driving and nothing else, people have no clue what the police does that is not visible in your everyday life.

    • Fiddler says:

      07:37am | 26/08/11

      do you actually know any cops or is it simply that you didn’t like getting a speeding ticket ten years ago?
      I know a lot of cops and they tend to socialise amongst themselves, not because they are elitist arseholes but because they are sick of having to justify the actions of every other cop in the history of humanity to every dickhead out there with a chip on their shoulder who feel the need to act tough to someone who they don’t know but pre-judge on their choice of employment when introduced at a barbie.

    • Tina says:

      07:46am | 26/08/11

      @ Fiddler

      Thank you. My thoughts exactly.

    • Michael says:

      08:47am | 26/08/11

      Fiddler i know a few too, they socialise together because it is recommeded by their seniors, the police need to operate in such a way that they are always in support of each other and socialising together reinforces these bonds.

      I agree though, many just don’t need the hassle of fools who don’t realise that you don’t get bothered by the police for abiding by the law.

    • Markus says:

      09:11am | 26/08/11

      Similarly Tina, I tend to get annoyed when I am pulled over and abused for speeding, left sitting there for 10 minutes, then let off with a ‘warning’ when they realise they were wrong on what the current speed limit is. Not that they care to admit it.

      @Fiddler, I’m friends with two, even they both admit that a lot of the guys that get assigned to road duties are complete arseholes.
      And unfortunately the majority of people’s only contact with police officers in their life is through bad experiences with road cops.

    • Aaron says:

      09:18am | 26/08/11

      Do not disrespect cops! They are there for our safety, and if you have a grudge against them, chances are it’s your OWN FAULT and are sour about getting caught out.

      Our police deserve all the respect we can give them

    • Michael N says:

      09:43am | 26/08/11

      Josh - you’re a clown. I can’t think of a more honourable profession than an honest cop.

      Regarding bosses, you don’t find it a little too coincidental that they’ve ALL been “arseholes”?

    • Fiddler says:

      11:00am | 26/08/11

      @ Markus, no arguments there, which is most of the contact general public have with police, however they make up less than 5% of the force, while the other 95% put up with generalisations that all they do is sit off stop signs looking for someone to slowly roll through

    • Thomas Anderson says:

      11:11am | 26/08/11

      A curious thing about police officers - they work in a job where they see the worst side of humanity, they deal with scumbags everyday, and after years on the job, its only natural for them to start suspecting everyone. Don’t be surprised that you get treated like a criminal by them, its not their fault, the job has made them like that.

      Notice how young officers who have not been conditioned in this way yet, tend to be more friendly, while its the older ones that look upon everyone like a criminal. At the end of the day, they put their health on the line so we don’t have to, so let’s be a bit grateful.

    • RyaN says:

      12:10pm | 26/08/11

      @Michael N: an honest cop? Like this guy?

      The fact that cops investigate cops is the problem, unfortunately for this regular cop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8dSL_2IKL0  there were cameras. If not he would be out and about torturing civilians today.

      The fact that his fellow police officers never arrested him is the indictment on the whole police force.

    • Reid Wright says:

      01:19pm | 26/08/11

      the only cops i’ve known personally over the years are cops that play in the same sports teams as me. Without fail each one of them was a forceful bully who thought the rules didn’t so much apply to them.
      A little like the standover tactics of a school yard bully. To this day it is consistent with the cops i play sport with, losing respect not only from opposition players but some members of their own club who they’ve decided didn’t measure up to their standards. asshats, not all, but most.

    • Tina says:

      01:50pm | 26/08/11

      @ Reid Wright

      I am fine with you saying those guys were bullies. But why is your reasoning that its related to them being cops? And all the ones that are not with the police force are nice people in your sports team? And those police officers are representing the whole police force? You realise that there are houndred of different jobs within the police force that all require different qualifications and character? So there is no way that a bunch of bully cops on your team would be able to represent police technicians, intelligence personnel, admin staff, dog squad, whatever.

      Why are people so terribly judgemental when it comes to police? Everyone defends the London rioters by saying they are not to be judged and put in one corner but yet police are all dickheads.

    • Markus says:

      03:46pm | 26/08/11

      “Everyone defends the London rioters”
      Nobody with any credibility has defended the London rioters. While there have been arguments as to what the initial spark of the riots was (race, class, education) the consensus was still that they are all arseholes.

    • Tator says:

      03:53pm | 26/08/11

      As a 22 year veteran with SAPOL, I have basically seen every attitude towards police officers both on and off duty.  Having worked in areas such as general duties policing, communications/emergency management, intel, traffic and transit policing, I have experienced nearly every scenario known to police, from simple traffic matters to complex frauds and murders.
      You are not able to please every single person you deal with whilst on duty.

      Considering that policing is an inexact science where nothing ever is consistent due to people being people and all having their own individual ideosyncracies and belief systems.  This means many front line police, especially those in the traffic sections, tend to treat everyone the same way.  Some are real traffic nazis (thats our own term for them) who would pinch their own grandmother if she committed even a minor traffic offence.  But another fact is that most traffic police officers are veterans who deal with numerous disgruntled drivers a day as nobody is happy to wear a fine.  Plus they are jaded from dealing with the crap that goes with the job from the heirarchy and many are just there because (at least with SAPOL) traffic doesn’t have nightshifts and/or are sick of dealing with domestics and other unsavoury jobs and are not interested in investigations or other non operational positions. 

      For those who whinge about having to watch the speedo, consider this for a fact, most vehicles speedometers are designed to show a higher speed than you are actually travelling (from the factory, Toyota Camrys have a built in 5km/h margin) and to actually get pinched your speedo would be showing that you are well over the limit and that error of margin only grows in the motorists favour as tyres wear etc.

      Then we have a prevailing attitude trivialising traffic offences.  Consider this for a fact,  deaths due to land transport accidents has been on the decline through a combination of improved technologies with vehicle safety and through improvements in traffic offence enforcement.  Initiatives such as RBT and compulsory seatbelts drastically reduced the death tolls from around 4000 a year in the late 60’s to less than 2000 a year in the 2000’s.  This is an amazing turnaround considering the growth in population since 1970 and the increase in traffic numbers and density during the same period.
      http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/featurearticlesbytitle/9AFD4E13D7DA281FCA2569DE0028B40C?OpenDocument
      As for police socialising with their own, another reason not mentioned is that the vast majority of police are shift workers working in a team environment, so they don’t get the majority of weekends off like most normal 9 to 5 employees so they socialise on their days off with their colleagues who are also off duty.

      Just to finish off and to show we have got a sense of humour
      Julia Gillard was pulled over on whilst driving herself home from Parliament House,  the officer requested that she submit to a random breath test, Julia pulls out a card, the officer reads it and it was a card from Julia’s doctor stating that she couldn’t blow into an breathalyser because she was an asthmatic.  The officer then requested that she accompany him so a blood sample could be taken, Julia pulls out another card from her doctor stating that she couldn’t give a blood sample because she was a haemophiliac, so the officer request her to give a urine sample, and Julia pulls out another card stating that he couldn’t take the piss out of her because she was an ALP Prime Minister

    • Ghost says:

      04:18pm | 26/08/11

      @ryaN

      The fact that she kicked him twice (the second time wrapping her foot around his leg), meant that she deserved every bit of it.

    • RyaN says:

      06:10pm | 26/08/11

      @Ghost: really? So if you were having your head slammed into a desk and pulled up by the hair you wouldn’t be getting a little excited?

      Lets not forget about the recent incident where a man on a motorised bicycle was pulled over then miraculously he ended up dead. The cops claim he just happened to have a heart attack at the exact same time as they pulled him over.

      Lets not forget about the many, many victims of tasers we have seen in the very few short years of their release, many of whom were tortured to death for what should have been a very minor misdemeanor.

    • Dark Horse says:

      07:18am | 26/08/11

      I’ve had two bosses who were assholes and numerous who couldn’t organise sex in a brothel, but were nice people. In over 40 years in the workforce, I’ve only had two bosses whom I could call excellent leaders and managers. That’s a sad indictment isn’t it?

    • old fart says:

      08:07am | 26/08/11

      when did i work with you? grin

    • Macca says:

      07:21am | 26/08/11

      I think the worst kind of boss it The Absent; always out of the office visiting clients and managers, they completely ignore their subordinates.

      Working for this person is a nightmare; deadlines and priorities constantly alter, you are provided zero feedback - positive or negative - and the accountabilities and responsibilities of you and your team members are constantly blurred and unclear.

      That sounds like a Gen-Y rant… Clearly I want the attention, but when you do get a manager who provides clear expectations and provides feedback on when you exceed and fail to meet those expectations, your performance will improve significantly

    • Tina says:

      07:34am | 26/08/11

      I know what you mean. You want to deliver good work, but with no input you have no choice but come up with something you are not proud of.

    • Mahhrat says:

      07:37am | 26/08/11

      Good call Macca.

    • marley says:

      08:29am | 26/08/11

      I had a boss something like that - we called him the Networker.  He’d come to the office in the morning and spend the next three hours on the phone with head office, with other managers in other offices of our organization, and with people who could get him the latest inside story on head office politics.  He was completely incommunicado during his networking hours.  Could have been in another city for all we could get to him with issues.

      And when we finally did get to him for a decision, he would make it on the basis of what would have good optics with the players back in head office, not what actually needed to be done (although, to be fair, I’m not sure he had a clue what did need to be done). 

      In a situation like that, one of two things happens - the organization drifts, or the deputy starts to provide the leadership and make the decisions - and that has its own potential for nightmarish conflict.

    • Jade says:

      03:12pm | 26/08/11

      My boss can be like this sometimes, I think I actually prefer it this way…

    • Kate says:

      04:22pm | 26/08/11

      So true Macca. I had one who would get to work at 10am and leave by 2pm almost every day, except when a big project was happening. He’d have no idea what was going on because he hadn’t been in attendance for weeks, so he’d be stressing out and shouting at you, demanding explanations about the most mundane things. He was a bad boss in a number of ways, but the absentee management style was probably the worst.

    • Fiddler says:

      07:40am | 26/08/11

      A bit of advice I received a long time ago about being a good boss. “If you try to look after those under you you will end up looking good to those above you. If you try to look good to those above you you won’t look after those below you and you will end up failing”

    • C1 says:

      07:54am | 26/08/11

      Fiddler,

      Totally agree with you.

    • old fart says:

      08:09am | 26/08/11

      you cant win either way there, so I adopted the attitude that a manager was there to facilitate the efforts of the people he worked with, that works fine thank you very much.

    • Fiddler says:

      08:49am | 26/08/11

      you will always have shit employees who will never be happy, ensure you are able to identify the genuine hard workers as opposed to the big-noters and deny any oxygen to cliques or office politics. You can’t make things perfect but if your subordinates think of you as someone who is trying to do the best by them morale will be a lot higher and they will on the whole provide you with loyalty, because you have shown it to them.

    • Michael says:

      07:49am | 26/08/11

      I have been all three of those bad bosses at some stage in my career or another, i have found that the more insecure i was or the more i had to prove to myself the worse i was as a boss, ha!  the same applies to my earlier years as an employee. The less secure i felt in my ability to do the work the more i stopped myself improving and learning from my colleagues, by being an arse to them. What a jerk smile thank goodness that’s over.

      Thanks for the story Anthony.

    • Kate Southam says:

      08:25am | 26/08/11

      Wow, it is great to hear someone be so honest. I reckon insecurity is what drives many a bad boss and employee. We are only human after all.

    • Paul C says:

      07:52am | 26/08/11

      I’ve had the “Cruel Boss”, but thankfully, Karma struck the bastard down.  It was an amazing fall and exciting to watch, he really deserved it.  Now he is a bankrupt, worthless tosser, who has burnt all his bridges with no hope of recovery.  He’ll know who he is, if he can afford internet to read this.

    • acotrel says:

      08:42am | 26/08/11

      @PaulC
      Do you always wish fate to deal with your enemies so harshly?  But isn’t it really nice when it happens? It seems that those sorts of fellas bring it on themselves with their own demeanor.  I’m happy for you!

    • Tina says:

      08:56am | 26/08/11

      Hmmm I sometimes wish for people to end up the way they deserve, but when they finally do it doesnt really make me any happier either. Its like begging for a little flu so you can sleep in and lounge around for a day and when you are finally sick you cant enjoy it because you feel too bad or too guilty.

    • gobsmack says:

      07:54am | 26/08/11

      One of the worst kind of boss is the boss who doesn’t back up his/her staff.
      For example, in the course of dealing with clients or other organisations you are required to enforce your organisation’s clear rules regarding a matter and make yourself unpopular with the client or other organisation as a result.  They ring your boss who decides that on this particular occasion the rules can be bent or ignored.
      The boss comes out looking accommodating and reasonable and you come out looking like an inflexible bastard.
      The only way around this is to refer every potential dispute to the boss in which case you create the impression that you are incapable of taking any initiative or making decisions independently.

    • Joan says:

      09:00am | 26/08/11

      I`m quite happy to pass on the difficult, deaf , clients to the boss- this type of client usually, unpleasant, unreasonable, don’t listen to what you say. I usually choose what is in the best interest of business and within guidelines,  if boss takes other track up to him. You won`t feel so bad if you take charge in first place by directing the difficult to client to boss if you have done everything according to management rules and customer still not satisfied.

    • Aaron says:

      09:28am | 26/08/11

      I completely agree. Back when I was in computer service I was directly under the service supervisor, and he was under the CEO. Often we’d have customers come in (Computer service is the worst for this because most of the time it’s the fault of the customer, and they expect to pay nothing!), anyway, on many occasions a customer would refuse any responsibility for damages to their computers, and I’d say I couldn’t do a repair under warranty, so they’d move up to my supervisor, who’d back me up and say “It’s your own fault (A little more diplomatically” but then they’d go up further, and he’d over turn both of us! My philosophy was that if they were like that they generally weren’t worth keeping as customers, but this boss thought differently, and every time they’d come back, and not expect to pay

    • C1 says:

      07:58am | 26/08/11

      It comes down to one big factor and that is trust.

      Regardless of their personality types if the boss shows trust in their staff, then it will be returned 10 fold. Without trust, it is a downhill slide.

    • Fiddler says:

      08:03am | 26/08/11

      how hard are these concepts for people to work out though?

    • marley says:

      08:34am | 26/08/11

      @Fiddler - I reckon these concepts are pretty hard.  After all, I bet at some point all of us have worked for a micromanager - and what is a micromanager if not someone who has no trust in his staff to get it right?

    • Matt says:

      08:22am | 26/08/11

      Has The Punch become the new movie advertising network or something?  Six ‘boss’ themed articles… I know no one likes working on Friday but the rest of us at least make it look like we’re making an effort..  Although anything today would be Joe’s unfunny piece of crap.

    • Alex says:

      08:31am | 26/08/11

      Micromanaging Boss is definitely one of the worst. The kind who sits at your desk and reviews your every move, or who tells you what to say when you’re on the phone with a client. Comes back to the trust thing again.

      I think I’d rather have a shouty boss than a micromanager.

    • marley says:

      09:09am | 26/08/11

      I once had a boss who fancied himself a master of the English language.  Every report that you sent to him came back with red-inked with revisions.  I once sent him a report which included a quote - and he red-inked not only my writing, but the quote itself!

    • hmm says:

      09:57am | 26/08/11

      Miranda, so true.  Some bosses just can’t help change your grammatically correct, clear, concise and professionally written piece.  They make changes to something that was correct in the first place.  It’s like they’re trying to justify themselves, yet their changes include words like ‘seperately.  I have since found out just recently that not only does my work get changed, but my bosses work gets changed and his bosses work gets changed.  It just goes up the food chain.

      I only want to make one final note about what makes a good boss / happy productive employee and that is R.E.S.P.E.C.T (everyone sing along).

    • MarkS says:

      01:09pm | 26/08/11

      Had a boss like that once, she lasted about 3 months, then after publicly humiliating her I told the CEO it was either her or me.

      Given that I earned them lots of money & she was a terminally damaged waste of office space. End one micromanager who did not understand that her role was to manage a department not fail to do my job. The self deluded fool still thinks she was sacked because she was a woman. LOL

    • RyaN says:

      02:00pm | 26/08/11

      @Alex: a lot of bosses use micromanagement to get crappy staff to resign or move on.

    • Tubesteak says:

      08:48am | 26/08/11

      The worst one I had was like Miranda from The Devil Wears Prada. Absolute nightmare. Unfortunately she was a partner and about the only partner in that team making money. I later found out that she has a reputation in the industry for being mean and nasty and they can’t keep people to save their lives (or win clients for that matter as all their work was internal referrals).

      Best one is right now.

    • Tina says:

      09:21am | 26/08/11

      When I worked as translator, my then-boss through a stack of paper on my table and asked me to “make it English”. But it was Russian! So I said “Sorry, but I am here as translator for English, French and German” and he just said “Dont bother me with the details”

    • gobsmack says:

      09:47am | 26/08/11

      @Tina
      Apologies for the dig, but “through a stack of paper”?
      Funny story though.

    • Tina says:

      10:07am | 26/08/11

      @ gobsmack

      I should reread what I write before I hit the submit button! Its funny how I can just mix up words in English that are pronouced the same but different in meaning. I hope you let it go seeing its not my first language?

    • Tubesteak says:

      01:13pm | 26/08/11

      Gotta love that one, Tina. They have no idea of how to use the resources at their disposal because they think you are just another cog.

      I’ve had one say (after the fact): “you should have known to ask me about that and I would have told you when I instructed you to do so.” This was after briefing me and missing a few key details

    • Jane says:

      02:27pm | 26/08/11

      I was actually told to read that book before taking one particular job, and told that my new boss was Miranda x10 ! Seriously scary woman, but she actually liked me because I’d stand up for myself. I saw this woman make men cry and more than 10 people quit because of her. When she finally left the next boss stood up in a meeting and formally apologised for her behaviour. To over 150 people…

    • Kate says:

      04:25pm | 26/08/11

      @Tina- I had a boss ask me to write the minutes for a meeting I didn’t attend, and didn’t tell me anything about what was discussed. Then he cracked it because the minutes were wrong. Well, fair enough considering I had no idea what had gone on!

    • MarkS says:

      08:54am | 26/08/11

      The boss I most liked & got on with was the angry boss. Everybody else was terrified of him, but despite regular rants; “what the **** are you **** well up to ****” & the like, he was a good guy. Like the angry boss above he was also generous with his knowledge.

      He would say I was his clone, to which I would reply that I was far better looking than him. So he had a sense of humour & could take a joke at his expense.

      Oddly regardless of his belief that I was like him, I am not an angry person at all, callous sure, occupational requirement really , but not angry. His head blew a gasket one day & then the company went belly up. Now I left to deal with soft colourless bosses, takes a lot of the fun out of work.

    • Aaron says:

      09:01am | 26/08/11

      Why has the punch got the majority of today’s articles on a movie? A movie that probably sucks?

    • meh says:

      09:02am | 26/08/11

      The only type I hate are the sales people who become bosses and think everyone should be a pseudo salesman.

    • Robinoz says:

      09:21am | 26/08/11

      I had the boss from hell only a few months ago. She was a social worker or some other ridiculous occupation. She tried to be a one-woman-band and totally ignored those of us at senior management level within her department, never took our advice (although we are specialists in our fields), and eventually after stuffing up a fist full of previously happy working relationships with vendors and clients, took a month’s stress leave and never came back. What bothers me is that the chief of our organisation hired her. Why is it that people continue to hire non-performers?

    • fml says:

      10:17am | 26/08/11

      They usually are the best talkers in the interviews.

    • Cyn says:

      11:51am | 26/08/11

      So true fml!!!

    • Jim says:

      09:59am | 26/08/11

      Over 20-odd years in mining and I’ve had a pretty good run, except for a 3 year period where I had two bosses from hell - well, one boss from hell and then a management team from Hades.

      First bad boss came to site and completely panned everything about the place. One of his first targets was our turn-over rate…we had the lowest turnover of any mine in north QLD. His comment was “if you’re not sacking at least one person a week then you’re not getting anyones respect”. So start sacking he did…starting with department heads; geology manager, HR manager, OH&S manager, the only surveyor we had on site, the mine manager, the maintenance supt…I was next on his hit list but fornutately the board offered some backup for me. Who did he replace them with? His mates of course, and half of them were in a real estate investment consortium with him. Only 2-3 of them had the right quals and all of them he could control. (I found out later he’d already promised my role to his dad!).

      The next 2 years were absolute misery - because he was stymied by the board he purposely went out to beat me down. He lied, he tried setting me up, he would try and find fault with my work while I was off site…each time he just ended up embarrassing himself. In the meantime he destroyed the viability of teh underground mine by blowing pillars that shouldn’t have been blown and diluting the orebody. The writing was on the wall for mass redundancies and the place going into care and maintenance.

      Then one day (while I was on R&R) he decided he didn’t want to spend $30K on trucking our waste grease and oil, along with old truck tyres, to Mt Isa to be disposed of as per our environmental plan of operations…him and his chief lackey decided to bury it on site! Unfortunate timing though, because the day before he’d sacked someone for driving a bobcat through a spoon drain while it had a leaky hydraulic ram. A few ‘anonymous’ calls were made to the EPA, and since the enviro stuff was one of my roles I came under fire. He actually signed an affadavit saying I was the one who authorized it. I had a pretty good relationship with the EPA already though, so it quickly turned around on him.

      He then went on holidays…part of the procedure in QLD is when the SSE is on leave he must assign a temporary SSE in his absence. He did this to one of his mates, but signed over ‘permanent’ SSE status AFTER the other fellow signed! This meant any legal action from the EPA was directed to the SSE and not the arsehat in person.

      When he came back (no one knew he was not now the ‘official’ SSE) he asked me to draw up a list of people who would be first ones cut as we wound the place down. I provided said list, then he went and told everyone at the wet mess that night. I got hauled in the next morning and he had my termination letter already written out and a smug look on his face, saying I breached confidentiality by discussing the redundancies - it was a lie, but I was too worn down to argue. I left then HE handed in his notice 2 hours later!!!

      Not only was I suddenly out of a job for the first time in my life, but I had to move interstate and away from my kids to get another job…the hate I feel for that man will never fade. As a side note, he is banned from holding a management position now in QLD, NSW, Vic and possibly SA smile

      The next job was slightly better, but the entire management team was a bit of a boys club who had no idea. It’s sad that these guys (also directors) represent that company at a high level, and it’s one that I will never recommend to anyone.

    • iansand says:

      10:30am | 26/08/11

      My worst boss (about 6 months) was a paranoid sociopath.  He is in prison now.  Apparently his paranoia was because he was afraid that honest employees would find out what he was really doing.

    • Tina says:

      11:26am | 26/08/11

      What was it that he was really doing?

    • iansand says:

      01:11pm | 26/08/11

      That which earned him 8 years in the slammer.  Defrauding banks on some sort of Ponzi scheme (not a wise business plan - banks may be slow but they are vengeful).

    • scumbag says:

      11:34am | 26/08/11

      I’m glad you’re stronger now Tony baby,  I know how you can be stronger still, give us a kiss and I’ll tell ya.

    • Monty says:

      11:35am | 26/08/11

      I had a job in the government and my boss was an absolute pig…working for him was something that could only be compared with hell.  Everyday he kept on reminding me of how inadequate I was and how he was full of morals.  I always had the belief that if you are a moral person you don’t have to advertise that you are.  When he told me that I knew that the job would not be easy and how right I was.  While working for him I put up with his bullying, discrimination, half-truths, lies and worst of all his rude character defamation comments which I found most annoying and demoralizing.  But I refused to let the bastard break me and I remained in the job for twelve (12) months as it was a contract work.  The hatred I have built up towards that man will never fade.  He rang me up at home three (3) months later and did not even say hello or speak to me in a friendly manner, but immediately started placing restrictions regarding phone calls to that Department for other jobs.  I hung up.  I was pleased to get away from a self-centred, egotistical, over-rated arsehole.  The one thing I learn’t from that job was ‘never work for bastards like that’...he was not a good manager and never will be.

    • Donny says:

      11:58am | 26/08/11

      When I look at some of these stories, I feel lucky ?  My worst boss was one who after I suffered a work injury, attempted all he could to get me to quit.  He kept intimating that I was faking the injury etc , even though all medical evidence showed the damage done.  This was found very strange by everyone as he was a witness to the accident..  This went on for a few years and luckily I had support from others in the work site.  In the end, I outlasted him.

    • Tina says:

      12:33pm | 26/08/11

      Why did you stay there instead of getting something better? I wonder why people dont just leave a job when they dont like it - implied you find something new.

    • Donny says:

      01:32pm | 26/08/11

      Tina, as much as I wanted too, I could not leave.
      If i had resigned, I would have lost all support for rehab etc for my injury.  Eventually with medical intervention etc, I was able to resume my normal work.  Was not a good time and believe me, I wanted to get out of there but I couldn’t.

    • Kika says:

      01:16pm | 26/08/11

      The worst two bosses I’ve had were both narcissitic sociopaths. You know the type that never reward you for good work, but can’t wait to bring you down when something bad happens? The worst did absolutely nothing. The Queen of delegation. Everything she did was delegated to someone else while she sat in her office reading personal emails all day. Non stop. I mean you sit in her room having a ‘meeting’ and every 2 seconds another email would come up on her screen from her mates… Can you imagine if the same thing happened to us?

      The worst thing was her way of ‘managing’ - i.e. wait until you are isolated in a space easily ambushed, grab her second in command and pounce on you unexpected and dump a whole lot of sht on you for absolutely everything (most of which was not your fault) and make you feel completely worthless and uncapable of anything.  No praise ever. Even if you had highlighted that their entire business was failing and would never succeed the way it was going (proven and they lost the account) and that your record ALONE smashed another record set interstate by a team of 4 or 5.  None of that. No carrot either, only stick.

      Mind you her department was like a revolving door. Nobody would stay long - even though the other departments usually had people averaging 10 years with the company.

      It was all character building though and lead to my job I have now. So thank you for berating me, belittling me and thinking I was hopeless - you lost the account and I am working in a much better paying, much better responsibility job with a good career in front of me.

    • Scott W says:

      02:26pm | 26/08/11

      ‘Xenophobic, homophobic, misogynistic bully’ is how I once described my boss in an ‘anonymous’ staff survey. Not long after, my role was made ‘redundant’. He still is, sadly…for those left behind. But as I remind myself regularly, Jesus died for him too.

    • Robert S McCormick says:

      02:38pm | 26/08/11

      Over the years I worked for bothg male & female bosses. The vast majority were fine! It was not until I was working within the SA Public Service, shortly before I retired, that I came across a real humdinger of a boss. This woman, when appointed, made no secret of the fact that she hated males & set about getting rid of as many as she could. She deliberately set up members of the public to complain about one male & used these complaint against him. He would not leave so she pushed him into a menial job in the garden of the site. She then started persuading other staff members to lodge official complaints about other males in which she accused them of bullying, rudeness etc. She had one even state that she had had to comfort another staff member as a result of my actions. A staff member who had been responsible for my getting the job in the first place & with whom I had always, and still do, get on very well with. It is extremely hard to get sacked in the Public Service, we even had one worker who was caught red-handed stealing money from another staff member’s purse & was also caught having sex with another during working hours. She got off scot-free thanks to this particular man-hating boss! When I was forced out the other staff, out of over 100 there were only 3 males, including myself, threatened to go on strike. The organisation, in addition to squandering a reported $100K on a Kangaroo Court, only the accusers were allowed to appear, I was forbidden to bring in anyone to speak up on my behalf, they squandered, as yet unrevealed, 10s of 1000s on bringing in outside Councillors to help the staff get through the blatant injustice of this new female boss!

    • I, Claudia says:

      03:53pm | 26/08/11

      I attended an all-girls high school of which the pricinipal was a self-confessed sexist. I’m a feminist, myself, but I was horrified to overhear her telling another teacher that she “refuses to hire male teachers, because they’re unsafe to have around young girls.” She, too, bullied her own staff mercilessly, and I feel sorry for anyone who works there.  We got her back though - my sister’s music teacher requested a pay rise because he was being paid less than the school’s cleaners, which she denied, so he gave my sister her home telephone number and address to distribute at will. Unsurprisingly, the student body hated her as much as the staff did.

    • Ricky says:

      03:04pm | 26/08/11

      I once had a boss who made my job very unclear and very difficult to complete. By this I mean I had little training in what I needed to complete so I was thrown into the deep end and expected to fix it myself and the tasks were way out of my league but apparently that is my fault. Man I hated that guy whole-heatedly because the expectation of completing a given task without the knowledge to do, then coping the blame for not being capable of doing so makes myself feel belittled and useless. Glad I don’t work for that asshole no more when in fact he didn’t know anything himself except how to complain.

    • I, Claudia says:

      04:17pm | 26/08/11

      The same thing happened to me. I was a nineteen-year-old immigrant and this guy expected me to have an intricate understanding of Australian taxation law (when he hired me, he told me that I was going to be the Receptionist). When he sent me out one day to buy office supplies and I dared to ask for directions to the nearest Office Works, he screamed,
      “That’s your job! You’re supposed to know these things!” I’d been working there for two days.
      I will say that I did learn a lot in that job (I had no other option than to learn!) and I am glad for the experience, because it did lead to better options. I also smirk when I hear that he’s having trouble maintaining his staff base (Melbourne’s a pretty town, and the grapevine here is more extensive than people think it is!).

    • I, Claudia says:

      04:03pm | 26/08/11

      My boyfriend worked for a conglomerate that I’m not legally allowed to name. Let’s just say that it’s an opponent of Coles. He had a torrent of terrible bosses - as a psych student, I’m convinced that a few of them probably would have met some of the diagnostic criteria for Anti—Social Personality Disorder - but the real problem was the systemic abuse inherent in the company’s structure. The store managers were bullying their assistants because they, themselves, were being bullied. These “bosses” were doing what disaffected, marginalised people do everywhere - they all sought to regain their self-esteem by forcing those beneath them on the social ladder to feel worse than they did. It all came to a head in April this year, when my father died of suddenly of lung cancer and my boyfriend requested that we be allowed to attend the funeral in New Zealand. His boss shrieked that he’d “have to resign” before he’d be allowed - so he did. We came back to Australia and prepared for war. We confronted one of Head Office’s human shields and with the help of the Union, laid our demands on the table. My father was a Union boss, and he always told me that “when you put cowards in the war room, the enemy will be feasting on roast chicken every time.” The lacky made his boss’ counter-offer; we laughed in his face and told him we’d see him in court, and then they folded a week later. My boyfriend signed a disclosure waiver, but I didn’t!

    • S says:

      12:28am | 27/08/11

      Claudia did that said company happen to start with the letter “W”? my b/f was hired by that company as a 19 yr old with no job experience and was constantly bullied by the two managers in charge of his department, just because he had long hair! (he always tied it up and kept it under his cap). Eventually they just stopped giving him shifts..and after the floods his store got flooded out, he got “transferred” without being told, and hasn’t been able to work since as no where has the room - apparently. The whole place just came across as a boys club.

    • P. Thornton says:

      07:37am | 27/08/11

      My worst boss experience was undoubtedly a certain restaurant owner in Barracks Street, Sydney - as an aside, he’s no longer there. The catering’n'waitering lark is an industry heaving with all types of emotionally defective, unhinged types. This nutjob stood on a raised platform and screamed his drunken lungs out during every lunchtime shift in a room that was packed to the gunwhales with punters. While at the end of each dinner shift, but with a much greater delay on Friday nights when all we waitstaff wanted to do was get out and neck a few beers, he’d keep as back even longer. How? Friday night was pay night and he was old world enough (read crooked) to pay in cash. The place didn’t open weekends. It usually took me the entire two days to decompress, compose and prepare myself for the following ten shifts. What became of him - you may ask… He was a chronic, abusive alcoholic who, during the last couple of years he managed to hold on to this goldmine of a business, drank and gambled it down the toilet. He then fell sick with…drum roll…throat cancer.

    • Col says:

      10:19am | 27/08/11

      I have had three bosses that were hell and some of the others were just users of staff who either disciplined staff when they burnt out or transferred them. As a front line police officer with QPS for over 30 years and recently retired, I now feel safe to make these comments. One manager tried the ‘Fire Brigade’ approach to managing his large operational station. When a situation occurred due to his mismanagement, he passed off the problem to one of the supervisors like me to fix. When I told him I was stressed he threatened to put in a complaint about me. This manager was eventually given the ‘resign or be sacked’ offer by the bosses. Another manager I worked for when I was a Sergeant, was a complete bully and one day whilst he was screaming at me in his office for nothing, he had the temerity to have a witness there to see how he dealt with his subordinate staff. This manager still remains at level on a career plateau after many years. My last relieving ‘manager’ prior to my breakdown and retirement, wanted me removed from my position I volunteered for as no one else would do it. He proceeded to bully people in the organization. including other managers and then myself. This pressure eventuated in exacerbating a previous existing psychological condition I had and I suffered a re occurrence of chronic PTSD, I ended up on worker’s comp and off work for 6 months then resigning and eventually getting compensation for my work injury. I am glad I am out of it now and recovering (albeit slowly as I still have permanent issues. These loose cannons mostly supported by the hierarchy, cost QPS a vast amount of dollars for no gain. Fortunately there are good people in the QPS, and I was privileged to meet a lot of them, the others like these examples I have mentioned I would not give two bob for.

    • Janine says:

      02:21pm | 27/08/11

      I’ve got a boss who is such a micromanager that it seems that if we are not going to go in to work , we have to call him directly and leave a message.  Too bad if he isn’t in and won’t be able to inform the other team.  He has no interpersonal skills and can’t communicate with anyone in the department, let alone his staff.  We have to email him our every move and I am surprised that he hasn’t as yet asked us to email him when we get up to go to the toilet…he is a total nightmare.

    • Anne Stocks says:

      09:45pm | 27/08/11

      Hi Anthony, great article, it was well put together and showed a real insight into the value of appreciating everyone you encounter in life in a positive way or in bringing out the positives regardless of how they impact you. 

      I feel I know you better Anthony as a person now,  not that I didn’t value you as being of worth but I can see and appreciate your willingness to see the good in any situation or person and I respect this about you….well done.

      Congratulations on being a dad of 2 boys you are indeed blessed but no wonder your day is very busy, thanks for the time you spared for me, I appreciate this and of course your patience.

      Kind regards Anne.

    • Bobette says:

      12:51am | 28/08/11

      Ouch, I have Janine’s boss, except she’s young female and a skill-free-zone.  It’s pretty horrible actually, the people she’s ‘managing” could do her job on their heads, however she couldn’t do their jobs.  It’s a bad joke. Plus, she’s a nasty little thing.

 

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