As the winter fog settles over Canberra and the nation’s politicians return to their electorates, there could be no more relieved Australians than the people of Queanbeyan.

You won't be able to afford bananas under a carbon tax. Photo: Ray Strange

Sitting just across the border from Canberra, the city’s small businesses have become a daily stage for the Leader of the Opposition to perform his stunts.

Usually directed against the proposed price on carbon, the hyped-up vitriol is mirrored in broader attacks around the country on anyone who doesn’t support his views whether they be scientists, economists or everyday Australians who dare to believe that dealing with climate change is necessary and urgent.

The unnatural and unrelenting opposition to everything does a great disservice to our democracy. The Australian people deserve a considered Opposition that intelligently analyses Government policies and holds it accountable. We are not seeing this in Australia today.

Let me give you an example. As Leader of the House, I am responsible for managing the daily business of the House of Representatives and making sure that legislation successfully proceeds through to the Senate. With majority Government, this is fairly straightforward because the result of the vote is predictable.

In a minority Government the outcome is far less certain. The only way to achieve majority support is by developing constructive relationships with the cross-benchers and involving them from the outset, particularly if it’s a controversial bill.

The success of this approach can be seen with the multi-party committee to fix a carbon price, which is chaired by the Prime Minister and includes Bob Brown and key Independents.

Yet the Opposition has not managed to stop one of the Government’s Bills passing the House. So while it purports to be the alternative Government, not once has it managed to attract enough support from the cross-benchers to block our legislative program.

By the end of this Budget session, more than 160 Bills had been passed since the re-election of the Gillard Government.

This compares favourably with only 108 bills by the Howard Government in its entire first year. Among our legislation have been major pieces of reform including the structural separation of Telstra, NBN, national health reform, improvements to higher education and the flood and cyclone reconstruction levy.

Even the Budget, which the Opposition denounced so thoroughly in the media when it was brought down in May, passed with barely a whimper. So although it was a great media stunt to cry poor on behalf of families earning above $150,000, the Opposition didn’t even bother to follow this through by opposing the legislation.

Another stunt which undermines the health of our democracy is Tony Abbott’s near daily trivialising of Question Time by moving a suspension of standing orders.

Normally, such a procedure is only used for genuine matters of public importance. In the last year of the Howard Government, this occurred on only seven occasions on issues such as the Iraq War, use of nuclear energy in Australia and care for the elderly.

However, half of all Question Times this Parliament have been cut short by the Leader of the Opposition. In minutes lost, this is the equivalent of nearly seven entire Question Times, or 136 questions that could have been asked.

Question Time is the forum to hold the Government accountable. I would argue that forgoing this opportunity in favour of a time-wasting stunt is an ominous path to walk down. 

While the Opposition might be shirking its responsibilities, the opportunity has not been wasted by other MPs. Since last year’s election, almost 220 hours have been allocated so far to Private Members’ business and for the first time in a decade, two Private Members Bills have passed the House.

While the Opposition might favour stunts and personal attacks over sound policy analysis, we will not stop doing what Labor Governments have done through history which is to govern for the long term.

The old age pension, universal superannuation, Medicare, Native Title, and protecting the Daintree, Kakadu and the Franklin River were all fiercely opposed by conservative governments.

Important reform is almost always difficult to achieve. If we had sought a simple life, we wouldn’t be connecting the nation via the NBN. We would not be taking on the big tobacco companies by being first in the world to introduce plain packaging.

Nor would we care about future generations and the health of the planet by tackling carbon pollution. But we are prepared to fight for what it right for the long term benefit of all Australians.

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    • AnthonyG says:

      06:11am | 08/07/11

      Albanese you are part of this most pathetic ,useless,senseless,corupt government in Australias history. You are scared of Tony Abbott and so you should be because even Labor people have woken up to it

    • dovif says:

      08:03am | 08/07/11

      Agree completely

      I say to Albanese, look in the mirror

      If your government was actually governing for all Australians pobably, it would not be an issue. Lets look at all the stuff up and sell outs by Julia

      Indonesian/East Timor solution, announced without the knowledge of the respective government, thereby hurting relations with out closest neighbour

      Carbon tax lies, very rare for a PM to completely losses the trust of all Australians

      Stuffing up border protection laws, penned by Gillard

      Pokies law, experts say it will give problem gamblers a false sense of security, and prevent non-gamblers from having harmless fun

      Fake and Real Julia, can anyone tell yet

      Carbon tax, on one hand Swan is trying to tell us that we want to reduce Carbon emittion, then he tell us there will be more Coal Power plant emitting more Carbon pollution. Had any treasurer anywhere in the world been less competant. I am just waiting for him to say, I think we got it just right

      Cattle ban, doing significant damage to our cattle export and hurting our relation with our neighbour

      If anyone was doing their job as incompetantly as Gillard and you, they would all be sacked already, I cannot believe Australia will have to wait 2 more years to get rid of this incompetant government

    • NicoleG says:

      08:05am | 08/07/11

      Oh Anth, how you could stomach this at six in the morning just proves to me you are a trooper! After just seeing the headline and then the head, it really does brings slappable to a whole new level! I’ll be back after about 6 strong coffees!

    • acotrel says:

      08:12am | 08/07/11

      @AnthonyG I’m also ‘scared’ of Tony Abbott.  He’s a danger to democracy! If he ever gets up, we might have civil war due to his inane aggressiveness!
      @Albanese
      ‘By the end of this Budget session, more than 160 Bills had been passed since the re-election of the Gillard Government.
      This compares favourably with only 108 bills by the Howard Government in its entire first year’

      Keep up the good work!

    • ZSRenn says:

      08:19am | 08/07/11

      Don’t worry about it Anthony G we have been putting up with Punchers who have no argument for government policies so they attack TA for months now!

      Is it no surprise their masters are the same.

      They know they are washed up as a rudderless ship and bringing doubt against TA is their only option left but to quote the PM Bob Brown

      “Australians are smarter than this and they do not like to be patronized.”

      The end to this rabble is nigh I just hope Australia can survive the interim period.

    • Reggie says:

      08:20am | 08/07/11

      Get with it Tones, even the filthy rotten right-wingers have given up on name calling and who’d take any notice of your assessment anyway, given some of your own personal choices. ..wink…

    • exhausted says:

      08:25am | 08/07/11

      Anthony G,
      Yeah well said mate and you wrote better than I would have

    • Tom says:

      08:29am | 08/07/11

      Great call AnthonyG. This grotesque excuse for a Labor government is corrupt, senseless and grasping.

      Albanese and rest of his Labor spin machine are inflicting punishment on Australian workers. Polls are showing that Labor is hated by the majority in this country and for good reason. They deserve to be. All Abbott had to do is point out the obvious.

    • Phil says:

      08:37am | 08/07/11

      Anthony. I wonder if Albo could advise everyone here, just how many pieces of Howard government legislation the ALP supported, particularly the GST etc.

      As for Abbott apposing. Why would you not. The ALP have f.cked just about everything they have touched since gaining government. They are on the nose and I doubt will recover.

      Albo why nt list how many billions you have wasted in government. Take the NBN your so called major infrastructure. Carlos Slim the worlds richest man in the this area says he could build it better and offer more for 25bn and still make enough to run his boat for 12 months in profit. And you lot wonder why your on the nose. Not one of you has ever achieved anything in business Mrs Rudd excluded. You lot have no business acumen. Yet Swan thinks he can manage the economy.

      Look in the mirror. It could solve your problems.

    • Dash says:

      08:59am | 08/07/11

      @acotrel, the problem is most of the ALPs legislation has been socialist policy destroying the freedom and liberty afforded our citizens by a free open market.

      It’s about penalising successful people driving Australia’s wealth and rewarding the wealth destroyers and lazy arsed ALP demographic.

      Flood tax, profits tax, carbon tax, freezing family benefits, means testing the private health tax rebate, removal of tax consessions for people saving for their retirement.

      Then you had the nonsense of the insulation scheme, the green loans scheme and the rorts under the BER scheme.

      Volume does not = good government! It’s not a race to see how much crap policy and how much damage can be brought to bear on the Australian economy. What’s the point of 1000 pieces of legislation if they are crap and damage our economy?

    • Tom says:

      09:01am | 08/07/11

      Albo, you should be preying that Abbott doesn’t get any better at his job. Even in second gear he is clearly streets ahead of your union drones.

      Thanks acetrol, for the Rambo line. I thought it had died. I hope you have your slug gun ready for the “civil war”, Mr Mannering.

      Let’s sing it together acetrol, “Who do you think you’re kidding Mr Abbott, if you think old latte’s done”?

    • The Galah from Hervey Bay says:

      09:03am | 08/07/11

      AnthonyG….well said . Albanese mentions the old age pension as being opposed by the conservatives but needs reminding that Gillard opposed any increase in the basic pension rate.

      The reason for the flow of Bills through to the Senate is the Independents desperation to save their own hides . They will not let Labor be seen to fail in any way or risk having to go to an election .
      Why ? .....because they are well aware that the electorate will remove them from office for foisting this miserable excuse for a government on the nation.

      Albanese is so obsessed with his raving at Tony Abbott that he has failed to listen to an electorate which is angry enough to turn Labor out of office in a landslide.
      The Carbon Tax is biting hard in Australian communities - Labor will proceed down this path at very high risk.

    • No 1 Rosie says:

      09:13am | 08/07/11

      AnthonyG

      Totally agree! Pathetic losers and for the next 2 years we have to painfully endure this useless, senseless, wasteful, ineffective, impractical, gutless, pointless and worthy of nothing Gillard Labor Minority. The reason being, the set up hasn’t worked and won’t work, preventing it from doing anything for the betterment of this nation and its people. A total waste of our money and time!

      The gutless Albanese and his counterparts are being led by a leader without controversy and that is where the problem lies. Gillard Labor can’t get it into their dense stubborn heads that Tony Abbott is not the reason they are down in the Polls but their incompetency - a bad Govt is a bad Govt! These days it is spot a positive comment made for the Gillard Labor Minority Govt - it is difficult to find because everything is negative!

      “Another stunt which undermines the health of our democracy is Tony Abbott’s near daily trivialising of Question Time by moving a suspension of standing orders.”

      Albanese - these days I anxiously watch Question Time looking forward to Tony Abbott moving a ‘suspension of standing orders’ as the only way to make a bad Govt accountable. Because the Govt is indefensible they can’t and do not try to answer the questions asked by the Opposition so Tony Abbott has no choice but to resort to a ‘suspension of standing orders.’

      It a wonder the Speaker is having a tiring time at Question Time, our PM started off badly, it has followed through and will not stop until an MP from the Minority Govt has the guts to say enough is enough and Elections is warranted! The ‘meow’ just adds to the Speaker’s woes but good to watch for those of us that have become bored with the same same same coming out of people like Gillard, Swan, Albanese, Bowen, Roxon etc all pretending they are doing some governing!

      Come On Albanese be the Man!

    • Catching up says:

      10:12am | 08/07/11

      It is Mr. Abbott that is beginning to sound desperate.  What has the government got to be frighten of a noisy and loud Opposition leader that has little of importance to say.

    • NicoleG says:

      10:28am | 08/07/11

      So Reggie, even the filthy rotten right-wingers have given up on name calling? Mmmm I see. Nowhere in Anthony’s post does he call anyone names. He describes the Labor government as pathetic, useless, senseless and corrupt. Learn to comprehend.

      Oh and I take it that little snide remark was aimed at me. But, meh. Whatever. I still worship the ground that awaits you.

    • dancan says:

      10:47am | 08/07/11

      Did I miss something?  How is Juliar and her government scared of Abbott and his cronies?  They’re nothing more than toothless guard dogs barking loudly but zero threat.

      If Abbott was actually blocking every bill that went before the house then it would make sense to say Juliar.

      At the moment it’s the complete opposite.  Juliar aren’t scared of Abbott, his party or the Australian people and are just doing what they want

    • lennie Guilbeaux says:

      12:00pm | 08/07/11

      AnthonyG you are like your cohort of bitter and twisted fellow right wingers (or should that be whingers?), you are entirely goverened by your “born to rule” mentality.  The Australian people are not that stupid.  When they see that the sky is not falling and start to look at what Abbott has to offer they will desert him in droves.  Hopefully that will be early enough for the true liberals who are equally reviled by The Stuntman’s stupid slogans to put Turnbull back in charge and get rid of loony right powermen like Abetz, Corrman and Benardi.  Only then will we have a genuine alternative government .

    • Scot says:

      12:07pm | 08/07/11

      And what is Albanese going to do about Labor turning Australia into a third world country. This Minister came to Clarence valley before the last election and gave away $2.3M in gifts. Like the cargo cult of New Guinea. Since then he has lied and delivered nothing as promised (Labor). We have one of highest unemployment and crime rates in Australia because of Labor. Road carnage of over 1,000 people killed on goats tracks. No world class infrastructure, from 16 years of an inept NSW Labor government and he was a party to it before he jumped ship to Canberra like all the other rats when the Labor Party in NSW went down like the Titanic, and Federal Labor will be Titanic 2, next.

    • Economist says:

      12:24pm | 08/07/11

      I laugh at this article, and particularly some of the responses below. Firstly Labor are taking credit for 160 bills, yet many of these would have been passed with the Liberals supporting the bills rather than Fielding and Xenophon. So much for the Liberals opposing everything. They simply oppose some of the big ticket reforms, the taxes, NBN etc with based on current polls has the support from the majority of Australians.

      Then I’m amused by the shrillness of the commentators to this article. Australia has just been ranked the most livable country in the world. As other have highlighted, inflation, interest rates and unemployment are all looking pretty good. What a pack of whingers we are. The sky will not fall in. The governments is not corrupt, just bad at executing their idea of reforms.

      Albanese, you’ve only got yourselves to blame for what can only be described as poor marketing.

    • franklin says:

      12:32pm | 08/07/11

      Everytime I see Albanese on television I am amazed that such a medicrocrity can become a leader in an Australian government, but then again I guess that is the Labor Party for you. There is no way Albanese would rise above lower middle management in the private sector.

    • Wayne says:

      01:24pm | 08/07/11

      Albasleezy, I wouldn’t trust you with my sewage, let alone anything else. Most people I talk to or hear talking in public, can’t wait to get rid of you, the Greens and the Three Stooges (independants) at the next election. Coalition by a landslide!!!

    • Tom says:

      04:37pm | 08/07/11

      lennie Guilbeaux, there’s a good chap. Talking about stupid slogans, “born to rule” is a chip on the shoulder term that refers to monarchy succession based on family ties. You blue singlet types know the thing.

      Howard was not related to the monarchy. Abbott is not related to the monarchy. Menzies (nope), Fraser (closer than most, but nope), McMahon (you answer that).  .... Downer and Anthony (but not related to monarchy).

      What a hoot. Fergussons, Creans, Beazleys, McClellands, Fitzgibbons, Whans to name a few. All sons of union hacks, all sons of drone politicians. Born to rule. Stupid slogans? Clean up your own backyard a bit first, hypocrite.

    • Lennie Guilbeaux says:

      05:20pm | 08/07/11

      Tom, I don’t expect your type of conservative supporter to be smart enough to understand irony, but I’ll try and explain.  The “born to rule” mentality of the conservatives has nothing to do with a royal lineage, it is their stupid belief that they are somehow the “ruling classes” and are the only ones who know how to run things.  Best evidence? Tony Abbott who still can’t accept that he is not the PM and that he was unable to badger the independents into supporting him.  By the way Tom, I have never owned a blue singlet (another supremacist word image from you “born to rulers”).  I have worked my whole life in the professions and on the basis of what you wrote would pit my education and analytical ability against yours anyday.  To borrow from you - now there’s a good chap, going and have a whinge about the socialists taking over etc.

    • Nell says:

      06:28pm | 08/07/11

      Well isn’t this interesting given we have a government who cannot even govern properly?

    • Peter T. says:

      09:52am | 10/07/11

      “There will be no carbon tax under a government that I lead”. Albanese is part of the greatest lie ever forced onto the Australian population. He is a member of the worst government in the history of Australia. His government has wasted an unaccountable amount of money. Even today, the media is reporting the waste of $1.1bn in Gillard’s BER. Lies, damn lies and Labor!

    • Paul says:

      12:14pm | 10/07/11

      Why have an opposition if they don’t oppose?  Unfortunately I think they are as dysfunctional as the party in government and the country is fast going in one direction only - down the drain.

    • Tom says:

      09:03am | 12/07/11

      Oh Lennie, “The “born to rule” mentality of the conservatives has nothing to do with a royal lineage, ... ” Wrong.

      PS, I didn’t know that being a BS artist had become a professional qualification. Congratulations, you are a credit to your calling.

    • frank says:

      11:37am | 12/07/11

      The huge problem I see in the last election is the complete failure of democracy,
      Here in Australia we have been subjected to the idea that a democracy is being given the opportunity to vote for one of two idiot parties that both lie cheat smear make underhand deals for support and probably give and take kickbacks, while outright bullshiting to your face and having a great old LOL at you while they dine at your expense.  The only other option in this joke of a democracy for the voter is to make a “protest vote” for an independent .
      However in this last election the protest vote independents sold out their voters faster than you can say “Highest bribe wins” So where does this leave the voters at the next election in this joke of a democracy?

    • Not Lazy says:

      10:22pm | 10/04/12

      Dash,

      You and the rest of you whiners disgust me. Your quote

      It’s about penalising successful people driving Australia’s wealth and rewarding the wealth destroyers and lazy arsed ALP demographic.

      Is just total crap. I vote Labor, I work 4 jobs am a fireman by trade and do the best I can to support my family. You dare put me into a so called lazy demographic.  I for one love that this government has the brains to get more money out of an industry that makes it money from a once only resource, puts more money into schools that my children will be attending and putting more money into a green sector (that is increasing in wealth by the way) has my vote every time.

      Dash most people are not born into wealth and not every one can make a ton of cash in their life, and be wealthy. Does that mean they are not good hard working people, worse yet should we penalise them.
      If one cannot afford the best things in life should we as a counry not support them.

      What an Australian has become is just embarrising now. Whinge when the CEO’s make too much, whinge when we tax them. Whinge when teh government don’t spend on the country, Whinge when they do.

      Pull your head in you lot, have a look what’s really important in life and ask yourself, Can Tony Abbott really provide this for me?

      If all you want is to pay off some BullSh%t debt, and have nothing spent on the country or the people who make it,well…..
      go crazy.

    • LeftRightOut says:

      06:12am | 08/07/11

      Pretty pathetic effort from Albo. Sticking to the party line of highlighting Abbott’s negative campaign (fair enough) - pretty hard NOT to oppose the ALP these days though. The list of policy failures is staggering. It’s impossible to avoid commenting negatively on this government for anyone, least of all an opposition leader. I see Albo has conveniently forgotten the ALP’s [pre 2007] opposition performance, too.
      He’s criticised Abbot (perhaps rightly) for wasting time in Question time, yet, can he give me a single example of any member from the government (upper, or lower house) ever answering a question in a straight forward way? - or even answering it at all?
      All the QT action I’ve seen, has shown nothing but Labor displaying the utmost contempt for question time from the PM down.
      Being the most incompetent government in Australia’s history, you’d expect such cowardly subversion. You’d also expect a lying government (there will be no carbon [dioxide] tax…) to lie about lots of other things, too. Say, their own government advertising policy… out the window every time it suits…

      Albo and his ALP comrades are simply hypocrites. Their leader commands zero respect, utterly lacks presence, and has destroyed her own credibility. Capitulating to the Greens was the most amateurish political mistake in Australia’s history. The reason JG had a reputation for being able to cut deals, is because they all sucked for her side… pretty easy to cut a deal that’s good for the other party involved.

      I genuinely fear that politically, ALP has destroyed itself - the fear is who will fill the void?

    • Dazeddazza says:

      10:33am | 08/07/11

      Agree entirely with Leftrightout, what a pathetic excuse from Albanese to attempt to paint the present bunch of incompetents, and their bedfellows, The Greens, as a Government for the people.  They are possibly the worst Government in Australian history.

    • Christian Real says:

      07:58am | 10/07/11

      Dash
      As Opposition Leader Abbott is suppose to show why he should be consided by the Australian people as alternative choice of Prime Minister instead of grandstanding,opposing everything,having no policies or ideas himself, muzzling and gagging his Opposition team from doing interviews(what has Abbott really got to hide)?
      Abbott a Prime Minister,he wouldn’t even make a Prime Minister’s bootlace,he even freezes and looks totally shell -shocked when he was interviewed by Mark Reilly.
      If he can’t handle a simple interview with a channel 7 journalist, how is he going tho handle interviews with the World press and media should he ever become Prime Minister.
      Abbott is an arrogant joke,it is only the gullible people that believe he has anything to really offer.

    • nihonin says:

      06:44am | 08/07/11

      LOL @ A.A. Hear ye hear ye, Labor Minister telling us that the opposition is useless, what a laugh Anthony.  Keep telling the plebs how indecisive Tony is, yet grass blade Julia has rewritten the book on changing direction depending on the way the polls blow.

      ‘Question Time is the forum to hold the Government accountable’ true, but lets not forget Anthony the questions are aked, but they never seem to be answered.

      ‘While the Opposition might favour stunts and personal attacks over sound policy analysis’, I had to wipe the coffee off my keyboard when I read this, especially from a Labor Minister.

      ‘While the Opposition might be shirking its responsibilities’, obviously Anthony is thinking of doing comedy after the next election. 

      Some gems there Anthony, thanks for the laugh first thing in the morning.  No point trying to point out how bad your government has been and still is, you’ve left the breadcrumbs for it, throughout the article.

    • ian forrest says:

      06:52am | 08/07/11

      another week another labor fiasco

    • ZSRenn says:

      08:39am | 08/07/11

      Only one fiasco / week?

      Things are looking up for Labor!

    • Ted says:

      09:59am | 08/07/11

      Sorry ZSRenn, it’s like NSW Labor with the train arrival times getting worse and worse. The deffinition of fiasco has been redefined so the liars and crooks can look better.

    • Christian Real says:

      06:58am | 08/07/11

      Someone should tell Tony Abbott that you can’t afford bananas now at the inflated price they are at in the supermarkets, it is obvious that he doesn’t do much of the grocery shopping for his family

    • Christian Real says:

      07:48am | 08/07/11

      Danny Crane
      What acheivements have the Opposition or Tony Abbott actually made?,
      The Answer is none.
      Out of the 160 plus bills put to Parliament the Opposition has opposed most of them, if not all of them, how many wins has Tony Abbott and the Opposition made is blocking bills through Parliament?
      The Answer is none.
      How many real policies has the Opposition came up with since Tony Abbott has been opposition Leader?
      The Answer is none
      The Opposition along with their Leader Tony Abbott are incompetent and a complete failure

    • Christian Real says:

      08:04am | 08/07/11

      Danny Crane
      From a news story in “The Australian”, “Julia Gillard’s carbon price promise”, written by Paul Kelly and Dennis Shanahan, on August 20, 2010 @ 12.00AM
      “Julia Gillard says she is prepared to legislate a carbon price in the next term.”
      In another paragraph of the same story the Prime Minister says:
      “I don’t rule out the possibility of legislating a Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme, a market-based mechanism.”, she said of the next parliament. “I rule out a carbon tax’
      Danny Crane, She has kept her word on the eve of the Last Federal election by putting a price on carbon.
      However the same can’t be said for Tony Abbott who is relentlessly opposing this carbon price.
      This story is from “The Age” June 7, 2011
      “Abbott dogged by old carbon comment.”
      “Tony abbott’s past as a climate change “weather vane” has come back to haunt him - again.”
      “The Opposition Leader has been shown spruiking a carbon tax in an old interview that was aired on Q & A on ABC Television yesterday.”
      “If you want to put a price on carbon,why not do it with a simple tax?”, Mr Abbott said.

    • dovif says:

      08:09am | 08/07/11

      On the other hand, ALP achievement had been magnificent

      Gillard admitting to lying and misleading the public

      Gillard stuffed up the Asylum seeker law, then stuffed up the Indonesian, Pacific, East Timor Solution, then announced the Malaysian solution without an agreement.

      Cattle ban, again hurting our relationship with Indonesian

      When the government is that bad, of course, the only defense is Saying

      Be very afraid, what if the opposition is more incompetant then us

    • MarK says:

      08:20am | 08/07/11

      Hi CR welcome back to the forums. No need to thank me or my ancestors or watch while I do my traditional polka dressed in ceremonial stubbies, flanny hat, thongs and a chesty bonds singlet. It’s all good. Feel free to enjoy my country.

      Now son let us look at a few things you say the opposition has opposed most if not all of the bills presented and passed by parliament.

      For this I call you a liar, although my ancestors still welcome you to my country. If you have any evidence to the contrary please do provide it you liar you.

      And apart from the gross negativity and repetition of none in your little diatribe please let me turn the tables and ask you one example of a Gillard government achievement. something completed. Unaltered. Popular.

      Go on son. Me and the my ancestors, traditional owners of this country, are waiting for your reply.

    • non-warmist says:

      08:22am | 08/07/11

      Christian Real, You don’t seem to understand.  It’s the government!  The present government!  Bob Brown and Julia Gillard, in that order.  That’s where the focus is -  the incompetent government.

      The Big Lie:  There Will Be No Carbon Tax….J. Gillard

    • ZSRenn says:

      08:25am | 08/07/11

      Ah! Christian when you have done talking to yourself that’s kinda the point.

      They are in opposition which means they do not have the majority in parliament but you just keep up your ramblings that situation wont last long on the grand scale of things.

      And the award for the dumbest post in Punching history goes to (Drum Roll)........................................


      Christian Real! (is he for real!)

    • Kevin says:

      08:44am | 08/07/11

      Monkeys find bananas irresistible.

      The guy in the background doesn’t look too impressed.  They probably had to chuck the bananas out afterwards.

    • Dash says:

      08:44am | 08/07/11

      Christian, I just thought you should be reminded that the ALP are actually the government, not the LNP!

      And have you seen grocery choice anywhere Christian?? Wasn’t that promise meant to reduce the grocery bills of all Australians?

      Yes Abbott has a family, a wife, three daughters, a house and a mortgage. And he does volunteer work in the community. Gillard has none of that and volunteers to do nothing but protect and further herself!

    • Denny Crane says:

      08:54am | 08/07/11

      It obvious that Gillard doesnt buy bananas for herself ( she doesnt have a family so could hardly understand the pressures). She hasn’t a clue. Electricity has risen 50% since labor took power - i suppose that one acheivement that she can be proud of but its not enough. We need a carbon tax and a mining tax to push those electricity prices higher.

      After every thing that these idiots have done, how could anyone have faith that they will not stuff this up as well. I’m 100% confident that there will be huge changes to this tax before they pass it. Already she has dropped the number of companies that will be affected by 500. Why? Why is petrol out? Its a joke. gillard is a joke. The whole government is a joke and anyone who thinks they are doing a competent job is kidding themselves.

    • MM says:

      12:58pm | 08/07/11

      Denny,

      Interesting that you raise the cost of electricity as something that Labor has control over…  Isn’t that a state issue?

      Please feel free to direct me to the Federal Labor policy that has caused electricity prices to rise by 50%

    • Reggie says:

      01:16pm | 08/07/11

      Got to give it to you Denny, the pressure to buy bananas must be bearing down on you like a big green bus. Tony Abbot is only making sure they are not imported black market bananas with 20 pesos price tag. He’s up to the tricks, our Tones.

    • non-warmist says:

      01:18pm | 08/07/11

      @Christian Real,  Over a billion dollars wasted on the BER you’ve praised.  Over a billion dollars.  Stop denying

    • Denny Crane says:

      02:35pm | 08/07/11

      MM - tell me which state has had a coalition government in the last 5 years? Sorry they are all labor. Doesnt matter if its state or federal, labor waste your money. Incompetent at each and every level.

    • Christian Real says:

      06:05am | 09/07/11

      Mark
      It’s typical Liberals like you that when backed into a corner and you don’t have an answer you resort to calling people liars,
      The proof that all these bills that Abbott opposed were passed through Parliament is on the internet, if you can’t read or don’t have the ability to read or surf the internet then that’s your problem not mine.

    • Christian Real says:

      06:32am | 09/07/11

      Dovif
      The cattle ban on live trade was lifted this week
      From the ABC:
      “Indonesia ready to accept 180,000 cattle, written by Helen Brown
      “Indonesia has released import permits allowing 180,000 head of cattle to come from Australia after a ban on live trade was lifted this week

    • Christian Real says:

      07:02am | 09/07/11

      Dash,
      You say;, “Yes Abbott has a family.a wife,three daughters,a house and a mortgage”
      So what is the big deal or the thing about him having all those things, does it make him better than the Prime Minister who has no children, has chosen not to be married and doesn’t have a family or a mortgage?
      That Dash, is called discrimination.
      As for Abbott’s mortgage Dash, It made the News because he failed to declare it as a liability on the Parliamentary Register.
      This story from News.com
      “Tony Abbott’s secret $710,000 loan, written by Simon Benson, From: The Daily Telegraph, on June 23, 2010 @ 12.00AM
      “Opposition Leader Tony Abbott took out a new 710,000 mortgage on his family home shortly after going into Opposition,partly to help fund his family expenses after losing his ministerial salary.”
      “But what appears to be a breach of the parliamentary rules covering MP’s pecuniary interests,he failed to declare the loans to Parliament for almost two years.”
      Dash, in another paragrah it says:
      “Parliament requires all MPs to register any changes to interests,benefits or liabilities with 28 days.”

    • Christian Real says:

      07:17am | 09/07/11

      Non - warmist
      BER may have blown out through some unscrupulous tradesman that gave honest tradespeople a bad name as well, but the new school buildings will be used by this generation of Australian children, followed by more generations of Australian children in years to come.
      Unlike you, and others I don’t see it as a waste of money, I see it as an investment in Australian children, in their future learning and education.
      Anybody that sees BER as a waste, also see their own children,and improvements to their children’s places of learning and education   as a waste also.

    • Denny Crane says:

      07:03am | 08/07/11

      What a load of tripe. I suppose that you have to attack the opposition because to write an artice on you own acheivements would be a very small article.

      As leader of the house, you must be ashamed that your party is avoiding scrutiny by giving details of your dishonest carbon tax after parliment has finished for the season.

      I saw you carring on like my 4 yr old with your 5 more sleeps call. That is reflective of your government - childish. When is there going to be an adult in your government and stand up to the madness? Is there noone with any moral courage or are you all just children who chant “5 more sleeps, 5 more sleeps”.

      Dont worry Albo. You will be remembered as leader of the house in the worst, most deceiptful, immoral government in our history. It must make you proud.

    • Reggie says:

      08:27am | 08/07/11

      DC; “You will be remembered as leader of the house in the worst, most deceiptful, immoral government in our history.”

      No, no , surely the Howard Government can claim that with impunity.

      He’s got a point though Denny. (How’s the Mad Cow going?) This is the opposition you have when you don’t have an opposition, too busy whining to be effective. maw maw mawwwww.

    • Tom says:

      10:29am | 08/07/11

      Reggie, ... “maw maw mawwwww”? is that a trolling device?

    • Andrew says:

      07:04am | 08/07/11

      Oh Please, if you goons were listening to everyday Australians you wouldn’t be pushing a carbon tax down our throats. Also your little coalition of Greens and Independents all rely on each other to keep your jobs, no wonder you all stick together on basically every issue. Abbott and everyday Australians don’t want nor need you goons. Check the polls if you don’t believe me.
      You sound jealous and upset Abbott is such a good Opposition Leader and you have completely underestimated him and his ability to succeed in holding you to account and keep the scrutiny up on behalf of everyday Australians.
      You had 11 years in Opposition and failed at making any headway in all that time.
      You had 11 years to prepare yourselves to run this country and look at your inept and amateur performance so far. You lot are nothing but a disgraceful confused rabble who refuse to listen to everyday Australians.

    • static says:

      08:24am | 08/07/11

      Thats cause the poor old coal miners are worried about it when really their biggest worry is whatever are they going to do with all that lovely money they are getting from China,,,aah what a worry .Quich eze anybody?

    • Level Headed says:

      12:06pm | 08/07/11

      Andrew, forget what the current poll say, but if, and that is a big IF, Abbott and his croneys had have negotiated with the greens and Independents sppropriately and been given minority Government last year, then he would have had to deal with these environmental issues such as slugging a fee on carbon etc.
      Not playing ball would see any bills placed before parliament voted down quick smart, thereby placing undue pressures on his party, the economy and the Australian populace quicksmart.
      Under current scenarios, the Government is in a damned if we do/damed if we don’t situation.
      Let’s just learn to live with it and deal with it when and as it happens, good or bad.

    • fox says:

      05:15pm | 08/07/11

      “Let’s just learn to live with it and deal with it when and as it happens, good or bad. “

      Err.. you mean continue watch the country get stuffed up completely by Labor rather than do something about it?

      What a great plan, your kids will thank you for it as they will still be paying off the debts for the next few decades. Labor has been a complete disaster for Australia, absolutely unprecedented.

      Kick them out before more damage is done.

    • jb says:

      07:04am | 08/07/11

      And this is exactly the problem with you and Gillard AA.
      You are not interested in what the Australian people think when it comes to this achieve nothing tax.
      You are the wasters of question time by never answering questions during question time.
      You are the ones not talking to your own caucus or back bench.
      The greens were briefed on the tax yet your own members are being kept in the dark along with the muck you have left on Kevin Rudds face with not filling him in on your cattle trade decision.
      Could it be you don’t want him around on Sunday?
      You mugg your own people and daily you mugg the Australian people.
      How about you start listening to us for a change and stop getting so rattled by the opposition.
      Your constant carry on is pathetic…
      You sound like a sniveling little school boy, grow up!

    • Against the Man says:

      07:13am | 08/07/11

      This government can’t even govern properly. smile

    • Richo says:

      08:34am | 08/07/11

      Mr Albanese, stop going to the same barber as Mr Swan. Also, you and Labor stink.

    • Unionist says:

      07:21am | 08/07/11

      Love it Albo…. what’s that saying “Give him enough rope and watch him hang himself”. You can see he already realises he is being left to swing in the wind as his scare campaign starts to crumble. His performance in the house of Rep’s this week speaks volumes… quite histerical for a grown man to act like a baby.

    • jf says:

      07:54am | 08/07/11

      Unionist says: 07:21am | 08/07/11

      “quite histerical for a grown man to act like a baby.”

      Ironic that you should make this comment when your comments are by far and away the most juvenile, simplistic and indeafensible of any regular commentator (of either side) on Punch.

      I’m amazed that you didn’t question his sexuality.

    • reg says:

      08:25am | 08/07/11

      Weren’t you outed as being a homophobe yesterday, Unionist?

      Bit rich the comments about Abbott in light of that.

    • non-warmist says:

      08:31am | 08/07/11

      @Unionist, That’s a very revealing statement from Albanese.  You do realise he’s saying -  “This Government can’t even govern…..............”?  Or are you too hysterical?
      Silly of Albanese

    • acotrel says:

      08:32am | 08/07/11

      @jf
      ‘I’m amazed that you didn’t question his sexuality.’

      We can’t question his sexuality, we’ve all seen him in budgie smugglers ! And we know he was chucked out of the seminary!

    • Reggie says:

      08:37am | 08/07/11

      Thank you for your assessment jf, can you now justify your assessment by stating your qualifications or is it all piss and wind like the barbers cat?

      “Ironic”?  “by far the most” ? “juvenile” ?  “simplistic” ?  ..aren’t you happy if things miss out on the turgid treatment?  “indefensible” ? You’re sounding a bit desperate today jf, but still providing a few laughs.

    • jf says:

      09:12am | 08/07/11

      Reggie says:08:37am | 08/07/11

      “Thank you for your assessment jf, can you now justify your assessment by stating your qualifications or is it all piss and wind like the barbers cat? “

      What do my qualifications have to do wtih anything Reggie?

    • non-warmist says:

      09:17am | 08/07/11

      @acotrel,  Grow up - time’s awasting.  They’re called Speedos

    • jf says:

      09:25am | 08/07/11

      acotrel says:08:32am | 08/07/11

      “We can’t question his sexuality, we’ve all seen him in budgie smugglers !”

      What does that even mean? That men who wear budgie smugglers are or aren’t gay?

      I’m guessing that it’s neither and just a desperate attempt to vilify
      Abbott’s leadership credentials because he wears appropriate clothing whilst performing volunteer community service.

      Mate, I’m a Liberal Party supporter and I can think of reasons to criticise Abbott that have actual substance. Still, if superficial potshots are all you’ve got alcotrel that’s pretty comforting for us conservatives.

      Still, I guess that somehow the fact that neither Gillard nor any of her cabinet have ever performed voluntary community service for the Surf Lifesavers, the Country Fire Brigade or in Aboriginal communities is a positive in your mind.

      “And we know he was chucked out of the seminary!”

      You know nothing of the sort. He tried it, decided it wasn’t for him and left. Still, I guess when you decide early on that getting wealthy by sucking on the public tit is for you, then you are to busy with student politics and smashing your way up the ALP hierarchy is just to time consuming to try anything else.

      What dull hollow men you are your kind are alcotrel.

    • non-warmist says:

      09:27am | 08/07/11

      @acotrel,  Surprisingly naive comment, re small ‘swimmers’ and sexuality.

      And another thing, you obviously didn’t spend any of your youth on the beaches -  lots of us saw lots of men in these swimmers, and weren’t gawking, as you obviously do, when Abbott is photographed at the beach.

    • MM says:

      01:11pm | 08/07/11

      @jf

      What is the point of coming up with intelligent reasons to attack/question Abbott when he himself doesn’t listen to intelligent arguments or people, nor do his supporters.

      What would your comment be when I point out the fact that Abbott’‘s proposed climate policy will do nothing but cost the Australian people money?  That his policy will be far more taxing on Australian’s than a price on Carbon.  Where is the money coming from to pay for all his incentives to business?

      Or perhaps you wish to comment on his scheme to redistribute wealth from the poor to the rich with his “paid parental leave scheme” that rewards those that are well off, while punishing those that aren’t

      Or perhaps you can comment on his communication policy that would see broadband communication in this country move backwards.  That would have us paying for infrastructure to be installed that would be outdated before it is even complete.

      As a person that has/had become disheartened with Labor, and who believes not in being a party supporter, but to vote for the best person, who offers the best for the country, I fail to see how anyone can support Abbott, he offers nothing for the country.  None of his ideas offer anything for the long term future of Australia.

    • jf says:

      02:03pm | 08/07/11

      MM says:

      01:11pm | 08/07/11

      “What would your comment be when I point out the fact that Abbott’‘s proposed climate policy will do nothing but cost the Australian people money?”

      My comment would be that only relatively wealthy people are able to take such a casual and callous attitude towards money. The carbon tax (the one that excludes carbon that is) hasn’t even come in yet and Electricity is up over 50% in less than four years. This increase in the price of carbon has not stopped people using electricity because people need to use it. What it has done however is cause genuine hardship. Not for you and me maybe. But for those for whom a 51% increase in the cost or an essential service has a meaningful impact on their quality of life rather than whether or not to take that extra holiday to the ski fields this year that money is important.

      “That his policy will be far more taxing on Australian’s than a price on Carbon.”

      Perhaps you’d like to tell me how it prices carbon when carbon is excluded and everyone is compensated.

      “Or perhaps you wish to comment on his scheme to redistribute wealth from the poor to the rich with his “paid parental leave scheme” that rewards those that are well off, while punishing those that aren’t”

      Sure. I don’t agree with it. Nor do I agree with a lot of the coalition’s middle class welfare. Happy?

      “Or perhaps you can comment on his communication policy that would see broadband communication in this country move backwards.”

      To suggest that you are doing the country a disservice by connecting millions of people to a technology they don’t want and won’t use is ridiculous. To suggest that by not connecting millions of people to a technology they don’t want and won’t use will send our communications capability backwards is equally ridiculous.

    • Reggie says:

      05:38pm | 09/07/11

      jf, the fact that seems to have escaped you is that electricity prices have jumped SO dramatically that they call into question the skill of the management that requires such an unseemly rate of rise.

      Another ENRON?

      Is it that they have failed to provide for the replacement of infrastructure and now scramble for income, or are they inflicting the rises upon the consumers before a carbon tax makes it still more difficult to accommodate such rises?  The coal burning powers stations are dramatically inefficient and only recent pressures have caused the owners to take steps to improve their performance.

      So it is apparently mismanagement or cynical manipulation of a captive market by the various electricity organisations.  There is a lot of room for improvement in coal burning efficiency and a tax offers the pressure needed to get them to perform. I can’t understand the right-wingers objections considering they are so quick to regard wage incentive as the path to better performance.  Why is this different? Or is it simply that you have no understanding of the principles but still scream child-like that you don’t want the pain?

    • jf says:

      09:05am | 10/07/11

      Reggie says:

      05:38pm | 09/07/11

      “jf, the fact that seems to have escaped you is that electricity prices have jumped SO dramatically that they call into question the skill of the management that requires such an unseemly rate of rise.”

      That’s a fact is it Reggie? Your source then?

      “Another ENRON?”

      Corruption on a massive scale Reggie? Your source?

      ““Or is it simply that you have no understanding of the principles but still scream child-like that you don’t want the pain?””

      But you keep on telling us that there will be no pain Reggie?

      Oh, and you still didn’t answer my first question. I guess you’d prefer it if your wild statements went unchallenged.

    • Reggie says:

      10:22am | 10/07/11

      Thank you for the opportunity to address you afresh oh mysterious “jf”. If you are referring to the following—>...”  “Ironic”?  “by far the most” ? “juvenile” ?  “simplistic” ?  ..aren’t you happy if things miss out on the turgid treatment?  “indefensible” ? You’re sounding a bit desperate today jf, but still providing a few laughs.” <- ... and by your peculiar misdirection, who canREALLY be sure, ... if seems you do not understand the meaning of being asked to qualify your contentions.

      Your contentions of “irony”, “juvenile”, “simplistic ” and ” indefensible” are notions plucked fresh from your simplistic brain and represent part of the unqualified litany of obnoxious and bankrupt right-wing name-calling.

      Sorry to belabor the point but apparently you have some problem with your narrow range of perception. I hope therefore, you will understand my seeming excess and forgive me accordingly.

      The other thing that escaped you was that I posed my last input as an observation and in the form of a broad question, and yet you chose to regard it as a statement. What’s the matter? A bit slow today? Or is all this perpetually twisting of detail on behalf of the conservative pack, undermining your sense of reality?

    • Unionist says:

      07:30am | 08/07/11

      Shhhhhhh! dont tell ATM he might have a complete break if he hears the Gillard government has been governing along quite well. 160 pieces of legislation eh’ gee she would have you believe you have been all sitting around having coffee and scones. It must be hard when you cant understand the body you have let alone small and turning purple when you get mad

    • Andy D says:

      08:24am | 08/07/11

      Thank you Unionist for some of the funniest posts on The Punch.

      Your parodies of a rusted-on Labor devotee are hilarious. The way you push the already unreasonable ideas of a clichéd brow-beating union thug over the edge into utter ridiculousness without ever breaking the facade of being a die hard believer requires real comic skill and commitment.

      Good work, keep it up, we all need a good laugh around here and you lighten our day by providing it.

    • Peter says:

      08:26am | 08/07/11

      Fellow Punchers ignore this troll. Judging by his political allegiance, his puerile remarks, bad spelling and incorrect syntax we can only conclude he has the IQ of a house brick.
      Maybe he is a frontbencher in the Gillard government. Just a thought.

    • John the Zombie says:

      08:27am | 08/07/11

      Unionist does this not then go against the arguement that the oppisition is agianst everything. Sure that those legislations would require the liberal support.

    • Ros says:

      09:05am | 08/07/11

      Interesting point the 160 pieces of legislation Unionist. I wonder whether on reflection you actually think that the Canberra Press gallery decided to demonstrate their numeracy to us by all simultaneously and independently getting an urge to do a legislation count . More likely that it is another press release and message for the week courtesy of the ALP spin doctors and required chanting from Ministers, backbenchers and Canberra press gallery hacks.

      Lyndal Curtis confirmed it the other day on News 24 with her statement, and they have passed 160…, as they keep telling us.

      It is both an Argument Ad Nauseam and an irrelevant argument to your cause that this is a good government. Nobody is claiming that Australia is a failed state, or even a frozen one like Belgium. Hence the fact that 160 pieces of legislation have been passed does not detract from the fact that this is an incompetent and dysfunctional government held in place, indeed controlled by,  a mixture of fruit loops and narcissists, and serving Australia very poorly.

    • Unionist says:

      09:11am | 08/07/11

      That’s right Peter only conservative right-wing idiots are allowed to post here… kinda sounds a lil commie there Poiter

    • Reggie says:

      01:04pm | 08/07/11

      Conservatives HATE Democracy Peter, which is why they do not appreciate anyone coming in here to disagree with them. Conservatives are self-centred and have that awful born to rule affliction that AtM has to wear like a ball & chain. I must admit though that you’ve mostly stopped calling the Prime Minister petty names probably because you finally realised how counterproductive it all was. A bit slow but the message finally got through except to Nicole who is the standard for thick-as-a-brick.

    • Coop says:

      07:02pm | 08/07/11

      Lay off the housebricks Peter. What have they ever done to you to deserve that sort of underhanded attack mate? In a public forum no less

    • Nerryl says:

      11:56pm | 09/07/11

      What is so good about 160 pieces of legislation? Does this make a good government? By the way, why should we listen to a politician who is so stupid he does not even know the name of his country.
      It is AustraLIA not Australya. Teach your wife as well, but thankfully we do not have to hear her anymore, but Albanese put in some effort will you and learn your countries name.

      And for Gods sake give Juliar some elocution lessons her voice is like fingernails scratching at a chalkboard. She could take lessons from Kath and Kim and sound better than she does right now. And that slow speaking like everyone she is addressing is an imbecile - makes her sound vacant between the ears, not us.
      In case you have not noticed, Australia has turned off, and it is not just because of the carbon tax.

    • Dan says:

      07:40am | 08/07/11

      Granted the opposition are rubbish, but I’m yet to be convinced the mob in Labor are any better.

    • Fiona says:

      08:19am | 08/07/11

      I’m really rather depressed about the lot of them…...and sick of politics, polls, great big new taxes, people with big ears (both of them). Think I’ll hibernate for the next 2 years.

    • Chris L says:

      11:46am | 08/07/11

      @Fiona - I remember despairing in a similar fashion back in the eighties and the nineties. I don’t think hybernating for a mere two years will help, unless a viable third alternative rears its head (emphasis on the word “viable”!)

      Personally I’m looking into the Liberal Democratic Party, the Australian Secular Party and the controversially named Sex Party. If enough of us look outside of the majors we might start seeing the change we’ve been wanting for decades!

    • Against the Man says:

      07:45am | 08/07/11

      Shhhhhhhhhhh, don’t tell the Unionist I actually happier than ever, if you bothered to read my post from yesterday because Gilltard and cronies are doing worse in the polls and have been cornered by their own incompetence. Wonder how many pieces of legislation Howard got through in 11 years? The ALP never cared about Australia and Australians.

      Oooops, the deleted Unionist has been taken to school like his other teacher buddy smile

      Unionist get back to us when you are part of the majority, oh that must hurt. wink

    • Unionist says:

      08:13am | 08/07/11

      LOL deleted Unionist. Girl you should see what doesn’t get through. What is amusing is you get all warm and fuzzy because two words were deleted from a post. Histerical really but then again simple people are amused by simple things. And I’ll wait here until you can actually land one that counts. Going by your standard spin that is going to take some time and some doing.

    • Blind Freddy says:

      08:59am | 08/07/11

      @AtM

      What a hero. The man and his majority. What a pathetic comment.

      AtM is a Bolschevic.

    • nihonin says:

      10:01am | 08/07/11

      ‘simple people are amused by simple things’, there you have it , the only requirement to become a protector of the current multigrain government.

    • Brad McT says:

      02:17pm | 08/07/11

      Well the ALP dick-heads are at it again! All talk no results to back up their big mouth. The Unionist is doing a great job at being an arse and blind freddy is humping along his side like all good punks! You guys need a new game otherwise it is time to shut up and get back in line!

    • Against the Man says:

      05:42pm | 08/07/11

      Unionist/Seano why do you act so childish? Just as Gilltard is doing Abbott’s job for him, you guys are doing my job for me. Watch as your little minority corner shrink and shrink…...smile

      And why are you so happy about the next 2 years before the next election? The longer NSW ALP dragged out the election the greater their loss, you guys ready to concede QLD next year and then get a big bang in 2013? I’ve never seen such a self destructive group such as yourselves.

      You guys think you know better than the majority of this country, how smart to know we have your wonderful thoughts to give us a great future.
      I wonder why the ALP doesn’t promote your ideas and all those selective quoting from reports? Maybe because they know it is crap smile

      Keep the insults coming boys because it only means you have no real solutions to your many, many problems. Dumb teacher says what? smile

      http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/pig-invades-hospital-then-bites-woman-20110708-1h5xj.html
      Canteen break Unionist/Seano?

    • Seano says:

      06:50pm | 08/07/11

      @AtM

      1. I thought you were ignoring me because you were being the better man. Apparently not.

      2. Sock puppets are your domain. As I’ve stated previously I don’t support Unionists trolling any more than I support yours. Unlike conservative trolls of your ilk I don’t support trolls from either side.

      3. No sane person is interested in “debating” with someone who’s best argument when stuck is to call you “fat”.

      Seek Help!

    • Seano says:

      06:50pm | 08/07/11

      @AtM

      1. I thought you were ignoring me because you were being the better man. Apparently not.

      2. Sock puppets are your domain. As I’ve stated previously I don’t support Unionists trolling any more than I support yours. Unlike conservative trolls of your ilk I don’t support trolls from either side.

      3. No sane person is interested in “debating” with someone who’s best argument when stuck is to call you “fat”.

      Seek Help!

    • Against the Man says:

      07:25pm | 08/07/11

      Excuse me?
      What was that?
      Did you just caught out again?
      Your AtM/Flexo referrance in the response below was an invite to the party? Wasn’t it?
      Come on Seano what is YOUR excuse?

      Now folks Seano has been caught out AGAIN, let us see his answers.

      Oh and by the way the insane people are a minority in this country, so guess what that makes you? smile

    • melle says:

      08:04pm | 08/07/11

      Look, is Seano deserving of this?  He can’t be Unionist.

    • Seano says:

      08:22pm | 08/07/11

      What excuse?

      You post personal attacks and use sock puppets because you can’t win sane, sensible debates.

      Seek Help!

    • Against the Man says:

      09:32pm | 08/07/11

      Seano you are getting tangled up in confusion and are clearly cornered again. You equate me with Flexo why? So I get blamed for his attack? You’ve made another mistake and you can’t bring yourself to admit yet another mistake. But I’m fine by it because I’ve caught you out again hehehe.

    • Seano says:

      10:30pm | 08/07/11

      Your lunacy always shines through.

      Seek Help!

    • Dash says:

      07:46am | 08/07/11

      Perhaps they’ll govern properly! Something the ALP seems unable to do!

      Any sign of the Coastguard you promised us Anthony?
      What about grocery choice or fuel watch? Any sign of those being delivered Anthony?

      What about root and branch tax reform, or the 260 childcare centers Anthony? Or the East Timor solution, the Malaysian solution perhaps?

      Any chance you guys might be able to balance a budget? Remind me, what’s the plan for paying off the ALP debt this time around Anthony? Sorted your over reaction over live cattle trade out yet mate?

      Good government is more than just promising a whole buch of stuff you never intend to deliver! Good government is not about telling lies about carbon taxes and living expenses Anthony. Its not about letting ALP backed builders rort taxpayers funds or pissing billions away on insulation schemes and green loans shambles! Nor is it about 900 dollar hand out to dead people.

      The factions that destroyed the ALP in NSW have now moved to Canberra. It would appear they are determined to wreck the nation as werll.

      Before you point the finger, perhaps you’d be better served trying to fix the mess in the ALP! Perhaps start with the lying socialist dictator you have in the top job. Perhaps look at the marginalisation of your party to the extreme left. Your primary is not at record lows because yoiuve governed properly mate!

      Its laughable that someone from the worst government in Australian history is pointing the finger at the opposition! Does the taxpayer funded propaganda start today does it Anthony?

      Every dog has its day. Enjoy yours whilst it lasts.

    • Peter says:

      07:48am | 08/07/11

      The reason why Tony Abbott is unable to convince the “Independents” to support him is really very simple.
      I would have thought that to someone of your superior intellect, it would have been painfully obvious.
      However, let me explain it to you in simple terms so that you will understand it.
      If the cross-benchers, or so called “Independents” were to side with the Opposition and bring the government down, they would be committing political suicide. They are compelled to vote with you for their political survival.
      Does that explain why they are sticking to you like shit to a blanket, or do I need to draw pictures for you?

    • Ian says:

      08:09am | 08/07/11

      This Brown Gillard Government (especially Albanese) think everyday Australians are stupid. Proof is in the above article.

    • Retired Soldier says:

      08:45am | 08/07/11

      Peter thank you for that simple explanation to AA. It is truly amazing that a man who regards himself to be an expert political leader needs to have something so simple explained to him. Now, if only his comrades and leader will read your comment and give us all the right to have a new election. Well done Peter, but you still may have to draw some pictures after reading some of the comments in here so far.

    • Peter says:

      09:08am | 08/07/11

      @ Retired Soldier
      What years were you in the Army? We may have served together.
      I’m awaithing this great announcement on Sunday.
      Notice how the cowardly bastards chose to make the announcement after parliament had risen for the winter break, so there would not be any embarrassing questions in the House?

    • Beck of Kenso says:

      09:16am | 08/07/11

      Supporting any Bills the Opposition puts forward would not risk the Independents positions, it’s only if supply Bills were blocked that the Government would crumble. I think you’ll find that the Independents would be happy to consider any Bills that appeared worthwhile, but the Opposition aren’t putting forward very many Bills, so there’s no need to discuss support. The only Bill that I’ve heard of the Opposition putting forward recently is one to investigate properties being bought by foreign investors - which was brought to everyone’s attention by a Chinese company buying those 43 farms near Gunnedah - and that Bill is being supported by the Greens. Which just goes to show that Liberals and Greens can work together if they think it’s in the nation’s best interest. And as it turns out the world hasn’t ended…

    • Super D says:

      07:53am | 08/07/11

      I agree with Albo.. The opposition will look much better in Government.  They are not suited to opposition.  The ALP however will look much better back on the opposition benches - especially in 5 years when the memory of the present debacle masquerading as a government is dulled

    • Nick says:

      07:57am | 08/07/11

      Albanese,you and your government are an absolute disgrace.Question time is meant to be used for answering questions and you and those other buffoons including Gillard are taking treating Australians who watch like fools .You make no attempt to answer any questions and have turned the whole process into a complete farce which shows your party is lacking confidence and authority.
      Time to get rid of Gillard and bring some integrity back to Parliament.

    • Luke4 says:

      07:58am | 08/07/11

      All you guys seem to do is make “personal” attacks on Abbott. At least Abbott keeps the attacks on your policies instead of lowering himself to your childish level of nothing else but “personal” insults.
      Grow up mate!
      p.s. how about answering some questions in QT!
      Everyday Australians watching deserve answers not spin and personal insults.

    • Michael says:

      10:45am | 08/07/11

      You might not have been around long enough Seano, governments lose elections, oppositions don’t win them.

    • Seano says:

      12:50pm | 08/07/11

      There’s an element of truth in that but do you think the political lanscape is going to be the same in two years time? I don’t.

    • MM says:

      01:18pm | 08/07/11

      Seano,

      I would say you are 100% right.  TA lost the last election.  It wasn’t a case of ALP salvaging a win.

      If Turnbull was in charge the coalition would have won by a landside.  Instead TA’s negative attitude put offiside enough swing voters.

    • Flexo says:

      02:13pm | 08/07/11

      Seano your carbon tax loving ways will not get you far in the current climate. Your Gillard love and Abbott hate shines through very well. Guess you did turn out to be a liar after all.

      MM it could be that Gillard was the losing factor on the ALPside that pushed TA further than he would have gone. She should have had a smashing victory, she should be miles in front in all current polls but she isn’t. TA is still the same but she just seems to have gone from bad to worse. The carbon tax policy is a joke, it won’t save the environment one bit. Gillard and Labor and the carbon tax are all failures beyond expectation. If she was talented and brainy enough to do her job right she shouldn’t be Australia’s worst PM ever!

    • Seano says:

      02:42pm | 08/07/11

      @MM - I agree. Turnbull could have won the the last one and Abbotts well earned unpopularity will be a millstone around the neck of the LNP next time. Especially if he stays on the negative.

      @AtM/Flexo - have the courage to launch your personal attacks from just one ID dude.

      I’m on record as despising Abbott for his devisive politics, negativity and lack of ideas and his horrible performance on office. All good reasons why Abbott is and will remain unpopular.

      I don’t remember saying too much about Gillard at all, but you guys never let rationality intrude too far into the debate.

      In the meantime a DD ain’t happening. Enjoy your next two years of ranting and negativity.

    • Peter says:

      07:59am | 08/07/11

      Albo ,how does it feel to be part of the worst government since Whitlam?

    • Farmer says:

      10:06am | 08/07/11

      Peter, what do you mean “since Whitlam”? I reckon this collection of deadbeats, dingbats and drongoes make Gough’s Government look good.

    • Reggie says:

      03:42pm | 08/07/11

      What? It was Whitlam dragged this country out of the slow and dreary (but safe) Menzies era, the same era you depressing Conservatives want to retreat to. (All that time spent checking under the beds and Bob starry eyed about the EMPIRE, no wonder the country had been in a rural hiatus.)

      Of course it HAD to be a whinging FARMER, ever-ready to ride the sheep’s back to prosperity. Peter, how old are you anyway?

      Don’t bother because you can’t win you know. Too young and you wouldn’t know and too old and you haven’t learned a thing in the last 41 years.

    • CiscoKid says:

      08:02am | 08/07/11

      You poor deluded man , if you feel that your party has the best interest of the australian people at heart then show us your commitment to that and call an election now.Come on Anthony show us your courage.

    • Andrew says:

      08:17am | 08/07/11

      I think you will get the chance to show us just how an opposition should behave very soon.

    • MarK says:

      08:24am | 08/07/11

      Albanese.

      Protip.

      People have stopped listening to you and Labor.

      The continual attacks on Abbott merely highlight his effectiveness and your lack of answers. personally I look forward with a kind of macabre pleasure to Sunday as we get to witness a pathetic, lying and shameful excuse of a woman that has sullied the off of Prime minister read out what amounts to her intention to commit a murder suicide on the Australian people and her party.

      Please try and find one positive that your government has achieved and delivered that a Gillard government has achieved and focus on that for a change.

      You are boring us you pathetic excuse of a manager.

    • watty says:

      08:36am | 08/07/11

      When the permanent fog lifts in Canberra, you Albo,, and your Comrades will no longer be in Government.

    • Pete says:

      08:44am | 08/07/11

      “The old age pension, universal superannuation, Medicare”

      Three questions
      pensions when are you actually going to give them an increase without taking something else away, like last time?
      when is our super going to be as universally magnificent as a pollies?
      when are you going to increase the medicare refund so that people are not hugely out of pocket for going to the GP?

    • Economist says:

      12:26pm | 08/07/11

      Pete, your suggestions aren’t Liberal party policy either.

    • Hugh says:

      08:44am | 08/07/11

      ‘While the Opposition might favour stunts and personal attacks over sound policy analysis’
      Now that’s funny. Really funny. You lot really are living in a delusional world. Abbott keeps scrutinising your policies and resists personal attacks. Do you really think Australians are so stupid that they believe your B/S? Last look at the polls I think not.

    • The righteous one says:

      08:45am | 08/07/11

      I hope Abbott washed his hands before fondling those bananas

    • Unionist says:

      09:07am | 08/07/11

      That is a horrible thought who knows where they have been.

    • MarK says:

      09:34am | 08/07/11

      Gosh he might have just shaken hands with a , ewwwww, gay person.

      How bad would that be?

    • Reggie says:

      09:56am | 08/07/11

      I think it’s time we imported our bananas like the Germans do and still sell then below a dollar a kilo.  Why are we supporting an industry that should have folded under the spirit of competition and natural calamity.

      Let’s hear it from the right!!!! Naught but a deafening fu**ing silence!!!!!!!!!

    • Reggie says:

      09:57am | 08/07/11

      I think it’s time we imported our bananas like the Germans do and still sell then below a dollar a kilo.  Why are we supporting an industry that should have folded under the spirit of competition and natural calamity.

      Let’s hear it from the right!!!! Naught but a deafening fu**ing silence!!!!!!!!!

    • Unionist says:

      05:28pm | 08/07/11

      MarK says:09:34am; as per usual for typical Liberals they take a crumbs of nothing and try and turn it into something. Yet fail to show any proof. I bet you jump like a typical westy when the word muslim in mentioned. I bet ATM make you all nice, warm and cuddley too eh’ their seems to be a lot of loving you’re sending it.

    • Rita says:

      08:46am | 08/07/11

      Unfortunately their is only one minister in your government that has any integrity and that it Stephen Smith.I watch question time and am disgusted by the childish and spiteful way you and the rest of your comrades behave yourself.If you want to see your polling improve you could start with following in Mr Smiths footsteps and stop behaving like immature evasive clowns.

    • Gerard says:

      08:53am | 08/07/11

      How about treating everyday Australians with some respect and write something aimed at adults.
      One word for this childish rant “pathetic”.

    • fairsfair says:

      08:53am | 08/07/11

      I haven’t even read this article, but I just wanted to say that the headline is a cracker! Coming from you Albo, absolutely hilair!

      See the funny bit is, for you to say those words you seem to be implying that you are Governing the country properly.

      Bahahahahahhahaha! Thanks for the Friday laughs. I love these satirical submissions!

    • More morons in mackay says:

      10:34pm | 08/07/11

      when’s your next opinion piece happening?  I’m sure we’ll have a laugh at that one.

    • Deepthinker says:

      08:57am | 08/07/11

      The only trouble with the opposition is the fact that, really speaking they have nothing to oppose, it is all make believe, but then again that is all the ALP is since the lawyers and university graduates took over from the old work scarred union and worker based ALP branches of the 30’s and 40’s and some of the 50’s. Ther wouldn’t be one ALP politician that could run a business let alone a country.

    • jack gilbert says:

      08:59am | 08/07/11

      what a gutless lot of liberal voters who barrack for one of the nastiest scare mongering politicians I have seen in parliment. can I suggest should the carbon price go through parliment, all you liberals should return any compensation they recieve from the governments carbon tax.

      ps hope your paper sees fit to publish this article

    • Nick says:

      09:18am | 08/07/11

      Jack ,how about instead of imposing a carbon tax on all Australians we introduce a voluntary scheme where believers donate to the government.
      How much a year are you going to give?

    • Horrified says:

      09:00am | 08/07/11

      Last night’s Leaky Boat doco shows why the Libs must not govern.  They will do anything, including fire over the bow of boats filled with asylum seekers, and commit piracy by taking over boats to drive them out of Aust waters.  Any wonder the asylum seekers took desparate action.

      Abbott idolises Howard.  Enough reason for him NOT to lead.

    • Peter says:

      09:20am | 08/07/11

      What a stupid naive comment.Better take your medication and go back to bed.

    • Blind Freddy says:

      12:13pm | 08/07/11

      True. And Scott Morrison said last night on Q&A that he would do it all again- no regrets.

    • Steve says:

      12:32pm | 08/07/11

      Although I hated the Howard government he got one thing right ,THIS IS .OUR COUNTRY AND WE WILL DECIDE WHO WE LET COME HERE the ILLEGAL BOAT PEOPLE that refused to turn back ,sank their own boats ,blew them up are simply trampling over the top of genuine refugees sitting in camps waiting to be placed in a new country They dont have $ 20000 to fly across the world and then get on a boat ,they are the real victims who should benefit from our refugee program

    • Andrew says:

      04:00pm | 08/07/11

      It is not illegal to seek asylum in Australia, no matter how you get here via plane or boat.

    • Jim says:

      09:07am | 08/07/11

      So Mr Albanese…what’s it like to wake up every morning and see your testicles in a jar held by Brown and Gillard? What’s it like to be forced to set aside any morals you have developed throughout your life prior to 2007 and tell bare-faced lies to the Australian people?

      Hope your lifetime pension and all its perks is worth it mate…

    • Burgey says:

      09:17am | 08/07/11

      Don’t know how you all have time to comment. What with unemployment under 5%, inflation at 3% and interest rates lower than when Howard got tossed - let alone 60,000 full time jobs created last month alone, I’m flat out trying to stop the sky falling in.

      Australia has become the greatest nation of whimpers on earth. The comments complaining about this piece only prove it. Life isn’t an Alan Jones comment.

    • Red says:

      09:31am | 08/07/11

      You’ve done a great job getting the 160 bills through Albo. Yesterday we had the farcical situation of the opposition accusing the P.M. of not answering questions when they finish Question Time prematurely nearly every day with a motion to suspend standing orders.

    • Spence says:

      11:04am | 08/07/11

      Burgey, no point in trying to argue using “facts”. Don’t you know that unemployment and interest rates will “always be lower” under a Lib party?  And if Howard had been re-elected the GFC would never have happened. 100% truthiness.

    • Blind Freddy says:

      01:53pm | 08/07/11

      Many of the Libera posters on this site make the much derided whinging pohm look like sunny faced optimists. They bleet on about how crap Australia is because we have (temporarily) a Labor -Green government. I challenge them to name their utopian capitalist nirvana that they long to live in- where the f@ck is this neo liberal paradise.

      We have it better than any other country in the world- not that you could tell from all of the moaning, complaining and crying for their “super nanny” to come and fix the world for them- and us.

      Liberals don’t hate the nanny state they just hate YOUR nanny.

    • Elphaba says:

      02:03pm | 08/07/11

      @Blind Freddy, you continue to erronously assume that just because posters are critical of the Labor government, that somehow they wouldn’t have a bad thing to say about the Libs.

      I’m pretty sure a good percentage of people deriding the Labor government would sink the boot into the Liberals if they were in power and displaying such gross negligence.  I know I would.

      To assume otherwise is unfair.  Now, someone who does embody what you say is Persephone.  The carbon tax is quickly becoming a joke, and she’s suspciously silent.  Why?  Because she doesn’t have a bad thing to say about her employer.

      If you want unwavering bias, look to her.

    • Chris L says:

      02:37pm | 08/07/11

      @Elphaba - You make a fair point, but most of these people bleating about the country being a basket case refuse to acknowledge any of the successes of the current government, such as the BER, acting to allay th effects of the GFC and the progress in creating the NBN. They also hold the government accountable for things they have no control over such as dodgy insulation companies ignoring the regulations put in place by Garrett to ensure proper training and safety.

      Fair enough there’s disappointments aplenty, but they certainly have not been so “incompetent” or “corrupt” as the majority of people here are claiming.

    • Blind Freddy says:

      02:58pm | 08/07/11

      @Elphaba

      I admire your confidence concerning the liklihood that critics of the current government would be equally critical of a Liberal government. The vast majority of anti-Labor-Green comments I see here are emotionally charged rants- not critiques.

      I just don’t get all this “Australia is shit because we don’t have a Liberal government” - FFS we have a well functioning democracy and a world class economy.

      The Gillard haters make the Howard haters look like your BFF.

    • Elphaba says:

      03:43pm | 08/07/11

      The problem is, both Chris L and Blind Freddy, is that you won’t know until we have a Liberal Government.

      We can critique policy of the Liberal Govt til the cows come home, but they’re not in a position to enact any of it - in which case it’s a pretty empty critique.  Labor holds the country’s future in their hands at the present moment, and at the moment, are making a total balls up of the carbon tax.

      I’m by no means a fan of Tony Abbott, but I am not impressed with the Gillard government.  That’s my own conclusion, drawn by reading off the Punch and keeping up-to-date with the news.

      I certainly won’t be doing Tony any favours when he gets in and inevitably buggers something up.  It’s the way of politics, and it’s not party exclusive.  But right now, Labor is in charge, and the people are not happy.  Because they are in charge, they attract the lion’s share of the criticism.

    • Blind Freddy says:

      05:06pm | 08/07/11

      @Elphaba

      Fair points. For me, however, when I hear someone critiquing someone elses position I like to find out what their alternative solution is so that I can make a judgement about the quality of their critique- based on the rationale they follow for creating their own policies.

      I know that the game of politics means that they don’t have to - but I still prefer it. I think we can analyse both parties agendas at the same time- it doesn’t have to be one after the other. A little foresight might go a long way.

    • Chris L says:

      06:19pm | 08/07/11

      I’m not sure I agree Elphaba. When the coalition was in power and I was feeling let down by Mr Howard (I voted for him in ‘96 and later regretted that) I looked toward labor to see what alternative they had and was equally disappointed with them. It’s not enough to show how bad the government is doing, we need an alternative to vote for.

      Tony has been impressing me a little more lately by remaining cool and even giving a bit of credit to the other side at times (when it’s due). I still want a better idea of what the coalition plan for the country before I vote for them, and if their campain continues to be belittling of voters (for the last two elections their campain basically boiled down to “If you don’t vote for us you’re a stupid head) they won’t endear me to them.

      One thing that would impress me is if they could admit that the NBN is a good idea. A lot of my friends work in IT and they unanimously support the project, even though most of them vote liberal.

    • Elphaba says:

      09:09pm | 08/07/11

      @Blind Freddy, fair enough.  I’ve always offered an alternative viewpoint, sometimesis agree with the Coalition, sometimes not.

      The carbon tax for example - both sides have screwed it up royally.  If neither can get it right, then they need to step back and try again.

      @Chris L, fair enough too.  I’m happy for you to disagree with me.

      My parents live in what is classified as a rural area, and I support the NBN as well.  It will mean growth and jobs in their area.  I’m going to be pissed if it means drastic changes/price rises for my current internet connection, because I have ADSL+2 and am very happy with it.  But the project is in its infancy, so I’m happy to wait and see.

      I agree we need an alternative to vote for.  I think the explosion of public opinion has a lot to do with the hung parliament.  It’s a situation most would not have had to face before.

      In any case, this article has been seriously populated with Liberal sympathisers today, I know.  I think the Labor supporters will be in full swing on Monday though.

      Have a great weekend, fellas. wink

    • Chris L says:

      01:26am | 09/07/11

      @Elphaba - In that we can agree! I had hoped the hung pariament could lead to both parties reconsidering what the voters wanted. Again I’m sadly disappointed by both. It reminds me of when One Nation attained so many votes in Queensland and the only politician to ackowledge that this may have indicated voter dissatisfaction was Sir Joh! Blow me down, I’d never agreed with him before!!!

    • Holly says:

      09:19am | 08/07/11

      I was very disappointed when Tony Abbott once again blatantly lied to the nation during his recent 7.30 report interview.  He misquoted the leader of the ACCI and unfortunately Chris Ulman was not well enough across his subject, or just not quick enough to catch him out.

      The media sycophants who rush around after Tony Abbott breathing in his every word with nary a question to him - why do you do it?

      Is it considered media balance to counter a well thought out presentation on some policy issue with a clip on our opposition leader squeezing bananas, loading cartons, shovelling something etc.  No it is not.  Tony Abbott is purely for playing games.  That is why he is so popular with a certain sector of the community whose only understanding of an issue is is Tony’s “no”.  He uses them by pandering to their ignorance, prejudice and imbecility.  They do not even realise the ruthless way in which they are being used.  Thank goodness we have one tough woman as leader to stand up to him.

    • jg says:

      10:08am | 08/07/11

      “There will be no carbon tax under a government I lead”

    • Knemon says:

      10:28am | 08/07/11

      Well said Holly - especially “a certain sector of the community whose only understanding of an issue is is Tony’s “no”.  He uses them by pandering to their ignorance, prejudice and imbecility.  They do not even realise the ruthless way in which they are being used”

      Abbott has taken lying to another level…his blind and faithful followers fail to obviously ‘see’ this!

    • Dash says:

      02:05pm | 08/07/11

      “There will be no carbon tax under a government I lead”
      “I fully support PM Rudd”
      “Today I announce an East Timpr Solution”
      we’ll build 260 childcare centres
      We’ll deliver root and branch tax reform
      we’ll deliver a coast guard
      Grocery Choice
      Fuelwatch
      Public ownership of hospitals by July 2009
      “I have more chance of playing full forward for the dogs”
      More affordable housing
      cheaper better childcare

      What was that you were saying Holly? I hate to think how disappointed of the ALP you must be.

      @Knemon - I know you to be smarter than that!

    • Michael says:

      09:20am | 08/07/11

      It’s hard to be a credible opposition when you are opposing a team as competent as the local under 7s. labor, quite simply put, are the worst government this country has ever seen. If it were not for nsw labor, I’d say they were the most incompetent, most corrupt and most damaging too. It’s a very close call.

      labor have shown us that there is no depth they will not sink to, no mistake too costly, no idea too half-arsed and no lie to blatant. To labor, an idea someone had in the shower this morning passes for “policy” and will be announced before lunch. You can only survive because there are still some people so unwilling to think that they still hold onto long-held views that labor are the party they used to be. I’m sure they will call me names for even saying this!

      To say you and yours are a disgrace to democracy and a wastse of space would be understasting things. labor are a waste of perfectly good bio-chemicals. How can anyone oppose a vaccum of policy and morals such as labor’s in any meaningful way?

    • NicoleG says:

      09:24am | 08/07/11

      Right. So Mr Albanese, this opposition can’t even oppose properly? Well isn’t that why you hop off your seat every five minutes and have a raving rant about how Abbott opposes everything? ‘Mr Speaker, the opposition leader opposes this, the opposition leader says NO to that’ blah, blah, blah. You sir are full of shite. This piece of rubbish you have written is, well, rubbish.

      The fact remains that you and the Labor party simply can not govern. And you, as leader of the house, do a woeful job. Do yourself a favor. Observe Mr Pyne and learn how to act. Articulation, dignity and class. Oh and an excellent grasp of the English language.

    • Green Goblin says:

      12:57pm | 08/07/11

      “Do yourself a favor. Observe Mr Pyne and learn how to act” - LOL…like getting thrown out of question time every day, setting a great example for children in the gallery…is that how you would like Anthony Albanese to act? Maturity is not one of Pyne’s strong points.

    • NicoleG says:

      01:41pm | 08/07/11

      You’re not real bright are you? Pyne gets booted out because he attempts to make those clowns who sit opposite him, answer questions. Then, once again they don’t, so he challenges them. Harry doesn’t like that. Harry lets them all get away with murder. Julie Bishop was kicked out the other day and Nicola Roxon did exactly the same thing directly after her exit. What happened to her? Nothing.

      Oh and I do see your point. Mr Rabbit, mincing poodle, etc etc. Hmmm, yes very mature.

    • Chris L says:

      03:23pm | 08/07/11

      Yeah GG. It’s not Mr Pyne’s fault he gets into trouble. It’s society’s fault!

    • Reggie says:

      06:31pm | 08/07/11

      Well that’s her lot until she musters up a few more loosely woven thoughts. smile

      Chris Pyne is the National fool that any Liberal Party would cherish for the idiot image he projects. Easy to see why he appeals to er, ... you know whom.

    • NicoleG says:

      08:34pm | 08/07/11

      Look Reg, I see you have mentioned me, completely out of the blue and rather random, in a few posts here. I just love how I get up your nose. And for the love of God, I don’t know why. Did I hit some sort of raw nerve at some stage? You continuously have little digs at Anthony and myself. Context being, he’s not quite right for his choice of a wife and vice verse.

      I do recall a while back where I stated that Anthony and myself had been married for 20 years. That’s when you turned rather feral towards me. I’m truly sorry that you have been married xxxx amount of times and clearly can not hold a relationship together. It’s not my fault.

      It makes me sad. Now run along and have another drink. In the mean time, please feel free togoandfuckyourself.

    • Reggie says:

      10:51pm | 08/07/11

      As expected you give yourself too much credit Nicole. You are only prominent by the rank stupidity you continue to exhibit while regarding yourself as a cut above the rest.  smile  In fact, your comments are a continuing source of embarrassment to you with your beloved fueling your weak-kneed attempts at right-wing wisdom.  Hilarious.

      A Chris Pyne admirer eh!  ‘Nuf said.

    • Matt says:

      09:31am | 08/07/11

      I thought it was obvious he wasn’t a real leader, especially since ‘shit happens’.. Maybe they thought his good christian background would win him through with the everyday people? He’s not asking questions when it counts, not opposing any bills, cutting short question time… What does he do but take every chance to jump in front of the camera and bad mouth someone.

      What possible reason would the leader of the opposition have for groping a bunch of banana’s on tv?  Even the camera man can’t be bothered with him…

      And speaking of carbon pricing, this is straight from the LNP policy page -
      •Promote the use of clean energy and the development of renewable industries

      I wonder how Tony will go about that, or even if he knows it’s there?

    • TGIF says:

      09:33am | 08/07/11

      Seems a lot of LNP supporters don’t like facts being shoved in their face..

    • Knemon says:

      10:34am | 08/07/11

      LOL…what was it Abbott said about believing what he said? His followers have lost the meaning of fact.

    • Nightingale says:

      12:44pm | 08/07/11

      I just love how they assume because they scream the loudest, they are the concesus of the population, this is not the case, but god is it hillarious to read them go off their heads at anothers opinion. smile I pity for the human race and it’s ignorance at times.

    • Anna C says:

      09:35am | 08/07/11

      Mr. Albanese don’t you worry your pretty little head about how the opposition is doing; cause come the next election you will be turfed out on your arse by the Australian people.  Your government is the biggest waste of space ever. Your lot can’t do anything without stuffing it up. Taxpayers are sick to death of bailing you guys out.  Why can’t one of your lot just do the right thing and have a coronary so we can have a new election.

    • Ms Lulu says:

      09:38am | 08/07/11

      I guess this mean when a politician makes a promise in an election campaign they do not have to honour that promise. Julia said there will be no carbon tax under the Government I lead but now we are getting one. Shame on you Labor patsies for doing this to our country not to mention the Greens ..........Surely this will be the worse Government in our history….

    • Knemon says:

      01:06pm | 08/07/11

      You’re obviously not very old Ms Lulu - never ever believe what a politician says prior to an election, the colour of their party is irrelevant - they ‘all’ tell porkies, it’s got something to do with the communal trough that their snouts share.

    • Number Cruncher says:

      09:41am | 08/07/11

      Albanese, I rarely tune into QT as I find Juliars shrill voice nauseating.  On the occasions I have checked in to witness the circus that is our parliament, I have not heard a single straight answer come from the mouth of any Labor MPs.  You accuse the opposition of wasting parliaments time yet Labor waste yet more time by not providing straight forward answers to simple questions.  instead we are inflicted with spin and hyperbole. 
      You accuse the opposition of unnatural and unrelenting opposition.  Do you realise how stupid this makes you sound.  They are the OPPOSITION!  They are meant to oppose, particularly if the policies presented are rubbish.  The problem is we have intelligent people analysing government policies, while the people in government creating these policies are a bunch of morons - yourself included.  The public will get their chance to hold this governement accountable one day, and it couldn’t come soon enough.  Achieving majority support by ‘bulding constructive relationships with the cross-benchers’ in what amounts to bribery and kick-backs will not be tolerated any more.  Pandering to the minority groups to hold onto power while ingnoring the will of the masses will come back to haunt the Labor party, if it hasn;t already.
      I shall continue to watch this specticle unfold and eagerly await its fiery ending…

    • Deepthinker says:

      09:43am | 08/07/11

      Does Albanese mean that he is what it says Albanese?

    • Reggie says:

      01:14pm | 09/07/11

      Too deep 4 me!

    • Tim says:

      09:44am | 08/07/11

      You’re absolutely right Albo, they can’t oppose! Perhaps they should govern, because you clearly can’t.

    • Jiminy says:

      09:46am | 08/07/11

      Anthony, you are the Coalition’s best weapon. Every time I see you on TV I’m reminded of everything I dislike about Labor.

    • Andy D says:

      09:47am | 08/07/11

      160 bills? I guess this is proof straight from the horse’s mouth that the current Labor government is going for quantity over quality.

      Strangely, it’s not the sort of thing I would be crowing about if I were a member of the Labor party.

    • Elphaba says:

      09:49am | 08/07/11

      What the…?

      “This Opposition can’t even oppose properly”

      Erm, I think the polls would beg to differ.  Your party’s approval rating stinks.  Tony wants to get elected.  He’ll get elected by any means he can.  In your dream world, where everyone is holding hands and farting rainbows, then yeah, maybe, Oppositions would wear a thoughtful glance and agree with Government once in a while.  But you can’t tell me that if you were in the same position, you wouldn’t spend all your time fear-mongering and opposing everything that came out of Tony’s mouth.

      He’s in Opposition.  He only wants to get elected.  That’s all that matters.  Government is a taxpayer funded nursery for you lot to sling mud at one another, and you think YOU’RE annoyed about it?

      Don’t worry.  You’ll get your chance to make a difference in 2 years.  I’ll be betting that you’ll just get down in the muck and sling it with the rest of them.

      This article is the equivalent of what a drowning victim looks like.  Flail, Mr Albanese, flail…

    • fairsfair says:

      10:16am | 08/07/11

      I don’t think you’ll find many people willing to throw the lifering either.

    • Elphaba says:

      10:27am | 08/07/11

      I’d dangle it over the edge until his fingers brushed it and then yank it back, yelling “PSYCHE!”

    • Anubis says:

      09:53am | 08/07/11

      Anthony Albanese - please answer the following questions and doubts that arise from this article

      1. “that dealing with climate change is necessary and urgent.’ This last Monday eminent Australian scientists at the National Academy of Sciences admitted that there had been no increase in global temperatures between 1998 and 20008, and there had in fact been a reduction of 0.2c. Where is the “necessary and urgent” need for action?

      2. “the multi-party committee to fix a carbon price” - viewed by the Australian public as a conga line of suckholes due to the requirement that you wholly believe the Government line on Climate Change. A standard warmist approach to shut down true and proper debate. This committee is not representative of the electorate, and in fact represents no more than 50% of Australians.

      3. “the Opposition has not managed to stop one of the Government’s Bills passing the House” - this would probably have a lot to do with the numbers when you are relying on dodgy characters to have a majority - such as the independent who purchases farmland that is then sold to China, another independent who is a one trick pony waiting for a decision on his cause celebre of poker machines - just how long can you string him along before ruling out his requested changes?

      4. Requesting suspension of standing orders - this is understandable when dealing with an incompetent and corrupt government who absolutely refuse to use Question Time for what it is - answering questions. Your mob have turned refusal to answer questions in to a fine art. The Australian people want answers to the questions that are asked during QT not the rubbish your lot dish out - total obfuscation and personal attacks and abuse and now you have sunk to the low levels of the opposition with cat noises being made when a female MP speaks. You go from bad to worse every time. When will Question Time be used to actually answer questions?

      5. “we will not stop doing what Labor Governments have done through history” - that would have to be spending billions of dollars on utopian pipe-dreams, running the country in to massive deficits and destroying the quality of life of the citizens through driving up the cost of living and imposing new taxes while trying to satisfy their own socialistic agenda by using the tax system as a social engineering tool. Lets see what new taxes we have under your “root and Branch tax reform”  - a) 25% increase in tobacco excise b) alcopops tax (which just drove teens to buy a bottle of bourbon rather than a can of premix d) soon to come Carbon Tax based on faulty modelling and corrupted discredited science d) Flood Levy to raise just over $1 billion dollars when you are sending $9 billion over seas in aid in order to get Kevvy his UN post. You are subsidising the economic powerhouse that is China and India - both countries that ignore their own citizens to pursue space programs and massive weapons expenditure - why are they receiving foreign aid? d) Tax for not having Private Health Care - isn’t this doubling up when we are already being taxed for this (it’s called the Medicare Levy). Why is the Government in the business of supporting Private Industry? If the Health funds were run fairly and equitably and actually paid the cost of what they are supposed to be covering then they would naturally gain membership increases.

      How can you possibly believe that the Carbon (Dioxide) Tax is in the best interest of future Australia when you are putting us in to a non-competitive position on international markets and destroying productivity in the process. If you lot were serious about reducing emissions of Carbon Dioxide then you would be implementing a Nuclear Power Generation Industry within Australia - this would enable the shutdown of coal fired power stations giving you an almost 40% reduction in emissions. Last questions - since when is Petrol not a pollutant producing substance and why when two days ago we had 1000 “big polluters and now we have only 500?

      Your Government is a joke and Australia is waking up to that big time.

    • Shifter says:

      11:44am | 08/07/11

      This. I could not agree more. However, for all the governments flaws I still have to pay money to a flood levy because:

      1. Queensland fails to realise it has been flooded repeatedly and does not build itself to withstand these regular occurrences.
      2. The Queensland government has no ‘savings for a rainy day’
      3. The Australian government under Labor has no ‘savings for a rainy day’ in their budget.
      4. The opposition could not man up and hold the government accountable for funds they should already have.

      So in a sense Albanese is right. We have a shithouse opposition. It doesn’t make our shithouse government, and those involved with the governing party any better.

    • Anubis says:

      12:03pm | 08/07/11

      @ Shifter - Don’t forget the arrogance of the Queensland Government in not taking out insurance on their infrastructure (all other states have) because of the Federal Government commitment to assis with rebuilding. Why take out insurance against cyclone or flood when it has been soooooo long since that sort of thing happened and Global Warming will stop it from happening again? ooops after the drought broke Global Warming became the cause of severe storms didn’t it. Oooops again - I keep forgetting - Global Warming has gone the same way as Global Cooling - it’s Climate Change now isn’t it?

    • Reggieman says:

      09:54am | 08/07/11

      “multi-party committee to fix a carbon price” Huh? You mean Gillard, Swan, Combet, Brown, Milne, Windsor and Oakshott? Where’s the Liberal Party members? Oh, that’s right - they didn’t subscribe to the “global doom is imminent we must do something NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” hypothesis which drives the Aussie economy, so they weren’t allowed to participate. It’s not a multi-party committee, it’s a “completely-stacked-in-our-favour” committee

    • The Real Reggie. says:

      10:17pm | 08/07/11

      You’re catching on Reggieman, not cooperating is part of Liberal obstructionist tactics. They’d shit razor-blades before they’d put the country above conservative politics. And remember,...doom and gloom is the recipe for right-wing politics, it easier for them to assimilate.

      ps, I didn’t mention the National Party who are nothing but suck-hole followers concerned only with conserving their own bit of dirt. .

    • jg says:

      09:59am | 08/07/11

      This Opposition can’t even oppose properly

      that’s fine because in two years time you’re going to get plenty of practice.

    • No 1 Rosie says:

      09:59am | 08/07/11

      Albanese what a joke!

      You guys are dancing to Tony Abbott’s sweet tune of success not because of his doing but that of your own. You guys have worked around the dead rotten carbon tax not to cut back carbon emissions but to discredit Tony Abbott. Exempting petrol, cutting back big Big Polluters from 1000 to 500 etc was a big compromise by the Greens to show that the Minority Govt has finalized a deal and prove to the public that what Tony Abbott has been saying was not the truth. Please, we are capable of deciding for ourselves. It has backfired big time!

      You guys are obsessed with Tony Abbott, therefore finding it easy to make your main priority Tony Abbott than trying to sell your tax. If your carbon tax was so good, Gillard wouldn’t have to wear out any leather trotting Australia, selling her carbon tax and at the same time criticizing Tony Abbott.

      Just trying selling the carbon tax without mentioning Tony Abbott, I think you may get some sympathy from the angry public. Note: not enough to get you over the line though!

    • Martin Hopes says:

      01:26pm | 08/07/11

      I agree Rosie - I’m obsessed with Tony Abbott…make any other person leader of the Liberal party and they will get my number 1 vote next election. While one of Howard’s nastiest ex henchmen is leading the party there is no way known I could vote for them.

    • cutelyconservative says:

      01:45pm | 08/07/11

      @Martin Hopes,  Any idea how feeble that sounds?
      “..............make any other person leader…...........”.

      Focus on the first failed female Prime Minister

    • No 1 Rosie says:

      01:59pm | 08/07/11

      Sorry Martin Hopes remain obsessed with Tony Abbott because he is here to stay as the leader of the Liberal Party. You will just have to vote informal because as you say Howard’s nastiest ex henchmen is going take over Julia the Liar’s job. Tony Abbott, will have an outright legal win unlike Gillard who had to stab the people elected PM overnight.

    • Dr. Time says:

      10:06am | 08/07/11

      Wow. The Abbott apologists are in full flight today. Personal attacks aplenty.

    • TGIF says:

      10:51am | 08/07/11

      Yep, sure are.. Name calling is much easier than trying to refute facts though..

    • Anubis says:

      11:08am | 08/07/11

      @ Dr. Time - not Abbott apologists (he and his mob are just as bad as Labor) but realists condemning a corrupt and inept Government who are hell-bent on using their position for social engineering, creating a Nanny State by removing the need for people to accept personal responsibility for their own actions, imposing a yoke around the collar of Australian industry that will destroy productivity and make us a nation of importers because none of our products will be competitive enough to be sold overseas. They are happily presiding over “selling off the farm” literally and metaphorically. And you expect people to be adoring of them - get off the grass.

    • Holly says:

      10:06am | 08/07/11

      As you can see Anthony Albanese, Tony Abbott has his supporters well trained.  They do not have to think for themselves, they just parrot the script.  Nor does he encourage reasoned argument.  (Heavens that would mean actually reading an original document or report.)  They are all as scripted as he is.

      Thank goodness we have a leader of reason, implementing successful programs such as the BER, NBN and Telstra deal,  tackling the big issues such as climate change.  A leader who actually has an understanding of what is important for the future of our economy and environment. 

      While all this is going on all it appears her detractors can muster is comments on her voice or appearance.  How shallow they are.

    • Anna C says:

      10:58am | 08/07/11

      “Thank goodness we have a leader of resason, implementing successful programs such as the BER, NBN and Telstra deal, tackling the big issues such as climate change.”

      Holly, are you for real? What drugs are you on and where can I get some?

    • Shifter says:

      11:47am | 08/07/11

      @Holly - I think you should hold off a few years to see the outcomes of these ‘programs’ and weigh them against the cost and the percentage of which that can be identified as wasted funds.

    • Matt says:

      12:59pm | 08/07/11

      Well said Holly, the BER kept the company I was working for afloat, they empoyed approx 60 staff, we also employed 8 subcontractor companies ranging in size from 10 to 150 staff each.  A huge proportion of small business would have collapsed if it wasn’t for the BER, scaffolders, plasterers, builders etc all gained work during the GFC when they otherwise would have went under.  The whole purpose of the BER was economy stimulus during GFC and it worked a charm.

      Anna C I notice again you have nothing but mud-slinging and no valid point.  What a surprise.. Perhaps you’re one of ‘those’ people that blame a government for a few dodgy contractors..

    • Anna C says:

      01:14pm | 08/07/11

      “Well said Holly, the BER kept the company I was working for afloat, they empoyed approx 60 staff, we also employed 8 subcontractor companies ranging in size from 10 to 150 staff each.”

      Matt, why should my taxpayer dollars be spent propping up your employer?  What makes you so special?  It certainly was not money well spent.

    • Ben81 says:

      01:21pm | 08/07/11

      I think i’d take “Building the Education Revolution” more seriously if they just called it what it is for the most part - shovelling cash at school halls.  (Of all things)

    • Matt says:

      01:52pm | 08/07/11

      Either way, it did what it was supposed to do, support the building industry which stimulated the economy.

      NIce attitude Anna C.

    • mm says:

      01:57pm | 08/07/11

      Anna C,

      So you think money spent on education for our children is wastage?

      Or are you commenting on how the money was administered by the states, and some non-ideal project management decisions?

      It seems that you are actually advocating further wastage, calling for the federal government to have paid for an independent group to administer the states.

    • A says:

      02:56pm | 08/07/11

      @Holly. Climate Change is a big issue? What about problems with salinity, deforestation, continued urban sprawl ie Perth. There are far too many real, observable environmental issues at hand to define that as a big issue.

      As for successful programs, I suggest you read the third and final report into implementation of the BER. $1.5B down the drain. Goodness only knows the contractor rorting, inefficiency and waste that will happen with the NBN.

      Unlike most labor supporters at least you’re kind of playing the ball not the man…oh wait, your last sentence.

    • stockinbingal roo says:

      03:55pm | 08/07/11

      My local school finally got a new toilet block after 50 years through the BER. Under the Liberals we would have to wait another 50 years because our school’s a lefty school, public, not private.

    • Lea L:uckett says:

      10:07am | 08/07/11

      Excuse me! Mr Albanese…There has been NO RE-ELECTION of the Gillard government!
      In government first as a result of a brutal stabbing, followed by AN election. We know that she did NOT win that!!! Just bought her way to power.

    • Carl Palmer says:

      10:08am | 08/07/11

      Dear Sir, perhaps the standard of the opposition reflects your own performance.

      And as for
      “…. stunts and personal attacks over sound policy analysis, we will not stop doing what Labor Governments have done through history which is to govern for the long term.”

      Well well, didn’t your side stoop to such a low that the PM informed the house that a personal apology was forthcoming for a personal attack? A please do me a favour, don’t compare yourself to past labour Govmt’s – particularly Hawke and Keating, your lot couldn’t hold a candle to those leaders. You see, your side has a massive credibility problem together with the fact that you are not in control of the country. On one side you have the greens, then the independents and in the wings a guy called Kevin 07 causing all sorts of grief and undermining your sudo leader.

      Mr Albanese, you can believe whatever you want, but as an average punter, you are not doing a good job, far from it. As an Australian, I am embarrassed by your performance.

    • Knemon says:

      10:11am | 08/07/11

      Thanks for the inside Anthony, except any-one with half a brain could see through the antics of Abbott, it was becoming so boring that it was embarrassing for him and his hanger-on’s like Joe.
       
      Love the accompanying picture; you can see big Joe in the background shaking his head thinking “look at that clown, here we go again”

      Question time proves what absolute contempt that Abbott has for our parliament and therefore the people of Australia. If he was to ever become PM then god help Australia and its residents.

    • Michael says:

      10:41am | 08/07/11

      So what do you make of the forced apology? and the fact that the government was using question time to make personal attacks instead of answering questions?

      What do you make of the fact that Swanny can’t answer a question about when he knew the 1000 big polluters was really 500?

      Maybe if you open the other eye, you would stop walking into shit like this smile

    • Knemon says:

      11:06am | 08/07/11

      @ Michael - My eyes are fine, perhaps it is you that should open one eye, you will be amazed at what you can see. Opening your eyes with your head in the sand can be difficult though!

    • Michael says:

      11:18am | 08/07/11

      i see you use the same technique as the government when asked a direct question…

      q.e.d.

    • psbren says:

      10:17am | 08/07/11

      Another example of Labor believing the voting public doesn’t know anything. And another example of politicians thinking too much of themselves.
      If Labor was doing well the liberal party would have no voice. The opposition hasn’t magically blinded us all to the truth - labor is just doing a bad.

      Put some runs on the board and the Liberal Party will be muted. Don’t tell us what we should believe are runs on the board - we aren’t stupid. Stand up to banks, mining and petrol companies. Fix the hospitals, fix the schools and address the needs of regional and rural Australia.

      Then, we you see public support, go after the opposition.

    • CiscoKid says:

      10:20am | 08/07/11

      Do you know the sad part about this government,is that when they are wiped off the map at the next election the likes of Mr Albanese and his cronies will retire on big FAT pensions whilst the rest of Australians struggle to survive .

    • Louisa says:

      12:52pm | 08/07/11

      At least he will be able to have his teeth fixed. They appear to be rotten

    • Salamander says:

      01:22pm | 08/07/11

      Dear Louisa,

      I am not sure whether to laugh, feel sorry for Albanese or reprimand you for actually saying what I have observed every time Albanese appears on the TV shouting NO NO NO NO.

      I don’t believe that someone in the public eye couldn’t do something about their teeth if not for healthy looks but for good health. Poor Albanese he still hasn’t figured out that marvelous things can be done these days to look better.

    • Petal says:

      10:21am | 08/07/11

      Do you guys in the Government ever stop to think that everyday Australians are sitting at home during QT waiting to hear your answers?
      Your tactic of turning every question into just a long list of personal insults and self congratulations without answering the question is excruciatingly frustrating. You look and sound like your hiding something. You guys remind of a kid in trouble with it’s parents who doesn’t want to tell the truth. It’s embarrassing to watch adults act like this on National television.

    • beryl says:

      10:31am | 08/07/11

      its very sad when peoeple dont realise what a great gov, they have.

      i look on the net to get my information,  Crickey,com,  great site,.

    • MarK says:

      11:14am | 08/07/11

      Crickey,com

      BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      that is all

    • Reggie says:

      10:51am | 10/07/11

      Apparently Crickey.com is too moderate for MarK, Beryl. He prefers his political ferocity and sarcasm to remain untarnished and unchallenged, which is why you’ll find him here.

    • Occam's Blunt Razor says:

      10:35am | 08/07/11

      Check the Margin in your seat, Albo, because we are coming for it.

    • More morons in mackay says:

      10:28pm | 08/07/11

      ohh, I bet Albo’s doing the razor blade thing. NOT

    • Debra says:

      10:42am | 08/07/11

      This useless government is finding it easier to criticize the opposition than to sell their thoughtless stinky carbon tax! You will be able to smell Juliar miles away when she comes around selling her stinky carbon tax!

    • More morons in mackay says:

      10:24pm | 08/07/11

      thing is, they can chew gum and walk at the same time, unlike the old knuckle dragger

    • Reggie says:

      10:58am | 10/07/11

      Only 60 minutes to wait Deb when it will be presented to you at Midday on Sunday when everyone is feasting on their Sunday lunch. A most convenient time and very well planned.

      Thank you madam Prime Minister.  Careful of the chicken-bones y’ all.

    • Bob says:

      10:58am | 08/07/11

      What this from someone who stands up in Parliment and says “you will have to wait 5 more sleeps”? Come on Australia deserve better.

    • Dash says:

      02:23pm | 08/07/11

      Yep, the same bloke who said, “we may be low in the polls but we have two years to put things right with policy” -  WTF?

      Policy? Like say the BER rorts, or the green loans fiasco, or the insulation scheme, or the root and branch tax reform, or fuelwatch, or grocerychoice, or $900 handouts to dead people or great policy like the East Timor announcement or the coastguard that was never delivered. Or the policy not to touch the private health rebate and to deliver more affordable housing and cheaper better childcare. 

      Or maybe that’s the point, the ALP will tell us a raft of lies before the next election and expect us to believe them??? Even ALP supporters wouldn’t be that stupid would they? It’s clear to the ALP, policy means an announcement without any delivery.

    • Watcher says:

      11:04am | 08/07/11

      I am a Labor voter, or have been so far, am dithering now. I am worried about this carbon tax, normal Aussies are struggling now Yesterday while I was in the supermarket a young mother was shaking her head, she had a child about 2 years old sitting in the trolley, she told me he loves bananas but at $14.00 a kilo she can’t even afford to buy him one. I know the floods have pushed prices up but the regular bills keep coming in and its bad when in this country parents can’t afford to buy their children fruit. Get the message Labor, we are all finding it hard..don’t make it harder on us

    • Reggie says:

      05:46pm | 09/07/11

      Watcher, the carbon tax is an incentive to get the coal burners and the big consumers to face the vandalism of their demands.

      We could fly a 747 load of bananas into the country in 24 hours at less than 50 cents a kilo if we were not bending our arses to protect the growers of Northern Queensland and the somewhat less attractive Northern NSW. smile Well what do you expect from a Queenslander? smile

    • Cate P says:

      11:06am | 08/07/11

      Your attack Abbott tactic has worn thin to the point of transparency and your piece says more about the cross-benchers than the Opposition.  The voters won’t make the same mistake again.

    • Harquebus says:

      11:09am | 08/07/11

      “This Opposition can’t even oppose properly”. They don’t have to.

    • GB says:

      11:10am | 08/07/11

      Anthony, Anthony, Anthony. You are a major part of the worst government since Federation so I wouldn’t be throwing too many stones at the opposition if I was you. I’ll go one step further, you are close to it’s worst performing minister and should be thankful Swan, Roxon & Conroy outshine you in ineptitude. Here’s a question for you. Do you think it’s reasonable for a Government to make one of the most important policy announcements in this nation’s history, one that is going to affect every single Australian, just after parliament goes into a 5 week recess? It wouldn’t be to stymie any debate now would it? I’m surprised you didn’t just prorogue it earlier like your colleagues in NSW. On the subject of NSW, the bloodbath we saw there a few months back will look like an ALP triumph compared to what will happen when we next get the chance to turf your useless arses out.

    • Tails says:

      11:10am | 08/07/11

      One for the Harry Potter fans: Anthony Albanese / Peter Pettigrew. Discuss.

    • Kurisu Sonsaku says:

      11:20am | 08/07/11

      Bob Brown / Nosferatu - you know it makes sense.

    • Economist says:

      12:35pm | 08/07/11

      I like this game. Abbott I reckon is Gilderoy Lockehart. Gillard a weasel? or a Weasly. Nick Minchin/ Eric Abetz=Voldermort. Malcolm Turnbull=Harry Potter. Kevin Rudd=Snape.

    • Anna C says:

      11:12am | 08/07/11

      How is it that in a country with over 21 million people, we are left with this bunch of drop kicks running our country? Heaven help us.

    • The Badger says:

      11:14am | 08/07/11

      Again I wake up to the sound of the little conservative piggies squealing. 

      These are great days what with the new new paradigm and it looks like the NoPosition party will continue to provide entertainment for many years to come.
      The NoPosition party is taking a winter break from the parliamentary business of NO, but NO doubt they will continue with their relentless pursuit of the rhetoric of NO. After all, it’s all they have and they have staked their political future on it.

      When the sky hasn’t fallen in, with a budget in surplus and the nation moving forward, we’ll see how far that NO thing will get them.
      In the meantime, I’m really enjoying the weeping and gnashing of teeth displayed by the blind supporters of Noposition party. Please continue.

    • Ian1 says:

      11:55am | 08/07/11

      “...with a budget in surplus…”  Hahaha…

      We are talking about Labor right?

    • Ben81 says:

      01:01pm | 08/07/11

      Hey look, it’s Badger with NO argument.  Is it getting as old for you as it is for us yet?

    • No 1 Rosie says:

      01:04pm | 08/07/11

      The Badger the Harass

      How you hope and wish the NoNothing Govt could be accepted by the people after they see their ‘sky hasn’t fallen in’ theory didn’t give them the result they desperately want and need!

      In your dreams, so go back to your hole, to the little hopeless, helpless little badgers and cease the harassment.

    • The Badger says:

      01:37pm | 08/07/11

      Squeal little piggies squeal
      I understand your problem.
      11 years at the trough and now you can’t even get you tired old snouts close the goodies. Your capitalist big pig backers must be whipping your mud stained backsides. Is that what’s causing all the squealing? Or is it just your insatiable desire for relevance?
      Squeal little piggies Squeal. It’s music to my ears.

    • Ian1 says:

      02:20pm | 08/07/11

      Badger, despite your assertions, not everyone who replies to your posts here is backed by big pig businesses.  You seem to think anyone who isn’t Labor/Green is big business, and you couldn’t be further from the truth.  Maybe that’s why support for Labor is insufficient to form government in their own right.

    • Shifter says:

      02:22pm | 08/07/11

      Hey Badge, on one of your points, if the budget is in surplus then why is the flood levy necessary?

    • Martin says:

      04:08pm | 08/07/11

      “the budget in surplus”. You are a fool. The predicted surplus of $1 billion dollars in the 2012-2013 financial year is in some doubt, however let’s assume that happens. You do realise that pays $1 Billion of a total deficit of over $100 Billion don’t you? Remember the GFC and the"Stimulus” package? The BER and the “Pink Batts” disaster? Sending undeserving people cheques for $1,000 to spend on stuff ON TWO OCCASIONS Remember all of that? That’s were the $100 Billion went Yes Badger, you mental giant, at this rate it will take the Labor party 100 YEARS to pay off the debt they have created. It is quite obvious to me that you are very young and naive, or have never worked or have spent your whole life at uni wasting taxpayer dollars.  Childish comments time and time again with no substance, sound s like a Labor voter! Well there’s not many of you left so enjoy it while it lasts. There are that many people that want this monority government arrangment dismantled its not funny. As for Albo, Labors’ infatuation with attacking Abbott is just adding to their woes. Labor is gone and Albo knows it. 29% primary vote spells the end. They can put up Combet, Shorten, KRudd whoever they’ve had it. And with Gillard at the helm they are totally stuffed.

    • Ian1 says:

      05:30pm | 08/07/11

      @Martin - not that I am agreeing with Badger, but sometimes even people on the same side would rather they weren’t.

      I am glad you raised some financial stats, but your use of numbers which are erroneous and calculations which are incorrect misleads and does little to reveal the tragedy of Labor’s financial mismanagement.  In fact, it makes the argument against them look as though it was crafted by a bit of a crackpot, and becomes an easy argument for them to win because of (not that they win, they just excel at taking apart one percent of something then congratulating themselves when they change the focus of public scrutiny).

      Yes, the National debt has blown way out under Labor.  We were in the clear, actually having some savings to prepare for the impending baby boomer retirement hole in our hip-bucket.  Not now, not by a long stretch ($100+ Billion (and growing) to pay off for workers from the Gens X, Y and Z!)

      But the surplus is year on year, whereas the National debt is accumulative.  The size of it now, the debt that is, Labor’s shame. 
      Cannot trust them unfortunately, as if they had a record of surplus’ so that we might believe them when they point to some ‘future’ surplus…

    • Ben81 says:

      07:08pm | 08/07/11

      “blah blah derp NO blah blah blah NO NO derrp blah blah NO”
      “Squeal little piggies”

      How do you do it?  Every day I think you can’t possibly be more of a childish imbecile if you tried and you come here and amaze me over and over again!
      You’ve almost reached Youtube level…

    • Martin says:

      01:20pm | 09/07/11

      @Ian1
      With do due respect can you tell me where the “numbers are erroneous and calculations are incorrect”?  Aftersayig this you then proceed to agree with me. Sorry to say, if we have a surplus of $1 billion per year then it will take 100 years to pay off the debt.  I guess the only thing I would concede is that I used the word “deficit” instead of “total debt”.

    • Dr. Time says:

      11:15am | 08/07/11

      “TGIF says:10:51am | 08/07/11
      Yep, sure are.. Name calling is much easier than trying to refute facts though..”
      @ TGIF.
      Sure looks much easier. Look at this thread. How dare anyone question Abbott or any other alternative leader.

    • Glenn says:

      11:21am | 08/07/11

      Here’s a thought. If you don’t like the opposition - call an election and then you can show us how to be a good opposition.

    • Reggie says:

      11:10pm | 08/07/11

      What’s there not to like about an opposition that does and says nothing?

      John Howard’s approach was always to say nothing or to answer the question he’d rather had been asked. The Janus reversal that he could NEVER get away with in court.

      What’s this? You’re suggesting we hold an election to elect an opposition? Are you a Tasmanian or a New Zealander?

    • JC says:

      11:25am | 08/07/11

      I think Abbot is trying to hide those banannas before Hockey can get to them in that picture. lolol

    • More morons in mackay says:

      10:19pm | 08/07/11

      mate, they are going to call an election about two years from now, you best get used to that one.

    • Ian1 says:

      11:34am | 08/07/11

      I wish I could believe in this government.  I wish I could trust a Labor party policy not to backfire.  The sad reality is to do so would take more faith than Peter had.  What with so many failings on your record….  Oh, and it would be nice if the Ministers actually answered the questions put to them during question time.

    • Pedro says:

      11:43am | 08/07/11

      The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result (for this government there are unlimited examples). Specifically, attacking Abbott for the last 1 1/2 years and watching his position improve with each insult. It is very funny to watch, like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football only to miss every time, so too with each personal attack labor believes that Abbott will fall on his face yet the opposite keeps happening. I hope labor never learns. PS carbon tax is a hoax, what labor has done to the beef industry is unforgivable and people are now longing for the days when Howard and Costello had control of the government - and I mean control…as opposed to this mess. No wonder labor have no swinging voters left.

    • ifonly says:

      11:59am | 08/07/11

      I’ve only noticed Tony being negative to the bad things the government is doing, that is what I would expect from an opposition.

    • MichaelP says:

      12:10pm | 08/07/11

      Hey Anthony your worried about Tony Abbott. I think you should be more worried about the Greens mate.
      Christine Milne has just made an announcement to the media unveiling your $3.2 billion energy fund.
      How embarrassment!

    • Robert Smissen of country SA says:

      12:20pm | 08/07/11

      Fear not Australia, we are one heart attack or one car crash away from a by-election. Oakeshott,  Windsor, Wilkie, I hope you are enjoying your “Judas” spoils because the people of Oz will NEVER EVER forgive you for what you have done

    • Robert Smissen of country SA says:

      12:22pm | 08/07/11

      Fear not Australia, we are one heart attack or one car crash away from a by-election. Oakeshott,  Windsor, Wilkie, I hope you are enjoying your “Judas” spoils because the people of Oz will NEVER EVER forgive you for what you have done

    • Catching up says:

      01:35pm | 08/07/11

      Be careful, you might get what you wish for, but it might be on the wrong side of politics.

    • Robert Smissen of country SA says:

      12:27pm | 08/07/11

      Union heavy & party wonk vs. a well educated multifaceted volunteer & tireless worker for ALL Australians. When was the last time (If there ever was one) that Albanese did something for no gain to him

    • Jack Jones says:

      12:37pm | 08/07/11

      Maybe its time for Australia to have its own 14th July 1789, its time the whole political system in this country was changed, we dont have a government we have a farce with individulas who would nt know what its like to have a common job, out with the bloody lot of them. And to the traitors that support the current goverment and communist Greens well youll be put on a leaky boat with them…bon voyage

    • grumpy old man says:

      12:45pm | 08/07/11

      so Anthony A you don’t like an Opposition opposing, who’d of thunk that,
      and while are are at it, time to update your picture Anthony, you sure don’t look that youthful today.
      Before you criticize anyone, don’t you think you should look at you’re own parties performance, before someone points out to you that people who live in glasshouses really should not throw stones,

    • Chris says:

      12:52pm | 08/07/11

      Mr Albanese. I watch question time on the ABC almost every day and I listen carefully to both the questions and answers. Unfortunately, I am disgusted to see how ‘skilfully’ you and others like Julia Gillard are able to dodge questions or provide verbose answers which weave in other issues other than what was being asked. The questions are simple, clear and ask for direct responses yet I rarely hear a simple, clear and direct response. In any other professional environment if I responded the way you do I would be sacked. Why should we not sack you for the same behaviour?

      Why are you so worried about an opposition that asks questions anyhow? Are you trying to hide something?

    • Pedro says:

      01:25pm | 08/07/11

      It is simple Chris, labor only believes in democracy when they are in government. Otherwise they believe it is their right to rule over the people. They aren’t far away from havingh a secret police - Already their sister organisation GetUp is trying to organise boycotts against any company that opposes labors legislation. With such blatant disregard for democracy, why would they even bother to answer a question in the parliament.

    • Reggie says:

      03:16pm | 10/07/11

      Don’t know which dictator you’ve been labouring under Pedro but the born to rule class here is the right-wing fascist heavy conservatives.

      The art of not answering questions asked was well developed and illustrated by many years suffered under the Howard regime. Sometimes disgracefully referred to as “that slimy bastard.”  Not that I’d dream of using such language to describe a respectable member of parliament of course. Sorry to be the turd in the sand-box but “Conservatives are the enemies of Democracy.”

    • Tony H says:

      01:06pm | 08/07/11

      Perhaps a little bit off topic Albo but can you advise which Labor MP currently in a “safe” seat will be sacrificed so that Combet can be moved there in order to remain in parliament. He will, I assume, be replacing Juliar just before or after the next Christmas break and you can’t really have your new leader in a seat that has become as doubtful as Combet’s one which is full of people reliant on the coal industry.

    • Beccy says:

      01:19pm | 08/07/11

      I had noticed that the government was getting all it’s legislation passed despite the hysterical balderdash coming from the unAustralian goons on the other side. Truly we are blessed to have this government in power, as the alternative would be cataclysmic for our country.

    • Steve says:

      01:42pm | 08/07/11

      Beccy. I wonder why we didn’t experience a cataclysm during the 11 years of the Coalition being in Govt.

    • Dash says:

      02:14pm | 08/07/11

      OMG! Bloody hell, you’re obviously not paying much tax Beccy!

      Record defecit budgets
      $900 handouts to dead people
      insulation fiasco
      $130m in borrowings daily
      Over $100billion in debt after starting with $26b surplus
      green loans fiasco
      stabbing of elected PM
      rorts under the BER
      freezing of $2billion from Australian families
      Private health rebate lie
      Carbon tax lie
      Coastguard lie
      East Timor announcement
      Malaysian announcement
      root and branch tax reform not delivered

      Gee we should all feel blessed! - lol

    • Christian Real says:

      05:56am | 09/07/11

      Dash
      I hope the Liberal party is paying you overtime for all the hard work you are putting into these bloggs echoing and relaying their written script.

    • Reggie says:

      01:45pm | 09/07/11

      Hahahahaha…. nearly as bad as his poetry.  wink  lol

      Beccy you’re a dreadful tease, they’re a pending cataclysm.

      Steve; We did, it was called “Workchoices” and it got a government and prime minister dumped by the voters, while your splendidly brooding Dr No shows by his intransigence that he has absolutely NO intention of abandoning fresh efforts to impose it on the workers of Australia. 

      As to the manipulation of the voters, well let us not forget the “never ever” from your slippery PM that was reversed hours before the election while the “never ever” still resonated clearly in the minds of the voters.

      Anyhow I reckon those school halls are going to come in handy in the event of national emergency. Great foresight guys.

    • Labour Back Bencher says:

      01:32pm | 08/07/11

      Order, Order, Oooder! The Member for Grayndier, the Honourable Anthony Albanese has the call!

      Look at the comments Mr Speaker, there is no doubt we have lost by a landslide and welcome the Opposition to take over!

      Phew I thought you would never come to your senses!

    • cynic says:

      02:00pm | 08/07/11

      In many ways albo, what the opposition does is a reflection of the shabby and mean spirited perfromance of you, jooles, combet & roxon. Been ir for 30 years comrade & 20 in construction so no shrinking viloet. Watching you in parliament is an example of the personalised attacks labor now sink to. Not the party nor members i grew up with or had as family members. The sooner you and you clown mob are gone the better. We deserve so much better than you.

    • Lucy says:

      02:15pm | 08/07/11

      Don’t worry Anthony, you’ll get plenty time to show them how to do it!

    • DavidK says:

      02:34pm | 08/07/11

      Lucy best post so far on this dopey article!

      I just don’t understand their thinking? Why waste precious time and money trying to sell their carbon tax when they know and we know it will go through the Lower and Upper Houses because Bob Browne, Windsor, Oakeshott and Wilkie have said that it has to and will be passed.

      Is it because Gillard Labor is now so desperate for the people’s acceptance because they know that as sure as night follows day they will lose in the next Elections.

    • Bryan says:

      02:22pm | 08/07/11

      Anthony, my suggestion is to read the commnets on this blog and work out what percentage of people actually endorse you or your party’s actions over the past year. The proof is of the pudding is in the eating.

      My father is an ALP supporter through and through and when HE tells me that he cannot - with any conscience - vote for you guys, I know that you are in all sorts of trouble.

      Get out there and listen to your heartland, normal people almost always get things right. The Greens will take you down the path of peril and strife.

    • Pete says:

      03:00pm | 12/07/11

      And I suppose your father is one who watches the news every night on channel seven/nine/ten, reads the australian/herald sun/SMH and listens to john laws? If so then he probably hasn’t recieved all the facts in fact i would go as far as saying he probably has hardly any facts. This isnt a slant against your father because truth is in order to get the truth out of the media you have to a masters in media truthseeing after which you must spend all day everyday reading everything and then still be able to read between the lines because most of what we are told is peoples OPINIONS and not all the facts (if any).

      You say that normal people almost always get things right. I’m inclined to agree with you and thats why we couldnt decide who we wanted in power last election because the truth is both of them deserve to go.

    • Rick says:

      02:23pm | 08/07/11

      Tony Abott…...bananas…..says it all.

    • Terry says:

      02:56pm | 08/07/11

      Tony Abbott…........Winner…...says it all.

    • Dr. Time says:

      06:21pm | 08/07/11

      Rather succinct, isn’t it.

    • More morons in mackay says:

      10:08pm | 08/07/11

      @terry you forgot to put the h in

    • Reggie says:

      01:12pm | 10/07/11

      Rick having only read about it, Tony is carefully checking the craft of banana-bending with an eye to extending his horizons.

    • Shifter says:

      02:35pm | 08/07/11

      I’ve been racking my brain and I’m not entirely sure about the point of this article. Obviously the author is aiming to draw focus on the opposition being not particularly good, but I question whether this is wise based on the governments own performance.

      Public opinion of the government and it’s leader is fairly low at this present point in time so playing the finger-pointing game and saying ‘they’re worse’ is hardly going to win friends.

      The author cites the number of bills passed in comparison to a previous government as an indication of bad opposition. This chiefly ignores the number of bills presented as a more important indicator, and also suggests the government’s tendency to have knee-jerk reactions rather than well thought out plans.

      Judging from the comments presented it has inflamed people already angry with the government, so I wonder just what the author was hoping to gain with this article.

    • NicoleG says:

      02:49pm | 08/07/11

      A whopping big headache?

    • No 1 Rosie says:

      03:21pm | 08/07/11

      Shifter - the political jargon ‘useful idiots’ comes to mind as it well describes the Gillard Labor Minority Govt and those that are supporting what the majority now know as a very bad Govt.

      This article is very useful to Tony Abbott and the Coalition as it shows that Labor MPs like Albanese have to resort to criticizing the Opposition to win our acceptance. Read the remarks posted by Laborites, very few I might add, you will find they have nothing as a counter attack but silly criticism. Just heard Flannery on TV and he hasn’t given up sugar coating the public to win us over.

      The Greens and the three stooges are all part of the ‘useful idiots’ theory.

      The latest being Get Up bullying us into not buying any of the goods produced by companies that don’t support the carbon tax.

      It gets dumb and dumber every single day and these idiots just don’t get it that they have become more useful to their own downfall than fighting the real fight for the cause.

    • More morons in mackay says:

      10:16pm | 08/07/11

      Hey Rosie

      You been writing for NOTW, same style. Just saying now

    • BJA says:

      02:39pm | 08/07/11

      Some rabid LNP supporters in here today. Who am I kidding, they are in here everyday.

    • hot tub political machine says:

      02:56pm | 08/07/11

      The sun rises, the sun sets. The cirlce (jerk) of life continues @ the Punch

    • Dash says:

      04:36pm | 08/07/11

      Don’t fret BJA, all the ALP lunatics will be back Monday after their briefing with carbon tax script in hand. Come back next week and you can join the rabid ALP supporters.

      You can tell us the Carbon tax is only $23 and is going to cost us but $1 a day and 7 million families will be better off and despite compensating the coal industry to the tune of $1.2billion and descriminating against families on the basis of income, we’re “making the big polluters pay”. Or perhaps, even though the productivity report says no other nation has an economy wide carbon price, Australia is not going it alone. Or perhaps, even though the science proves $23 will not be large enough to affect behaviour and world average temperatures will not change by a single degree, this is for our children and our childrens children.

      Should be fun to see the propaganda and bullshit fly from the ALP hacks here from Monday. Don’t miss it.

    • Nath says:

      03:11pm | 08/07/11

      Waste of internet space this article is. How about we call in a re-election and see how confident Albenese feels.

    • Rushhour says:

      03:12pm | 08/07/11

      Now I know Tony Abbott is the man to lead Australia out of this mess. You have the chief ‘head kicker’ coming to Ms Gillards rescue. Anthony, your better than this… Please think about your own profile and stop following Ms Gillard. The novelty of the first female Prime Minister is over. It is five to midnight save yourself ... You know this is total madness ... It’s not reform Anthony, its a TAX! Another one! You all must be nervous as a kitten in room full of rocking chairs.. This is going to end so bad for you Anthony. If not within the next few months then certainly at the next election.

    • stockinbingal roo says:

      03:34pm | 08/07/11

      To all politicians except our Queanbeyan elected Labor and National reps, please stop visiting Queanbeyan, we hate being patronized.

    • Just Sayin' says:

      04:10pm | 08/07/11

      “This Opposition can’t even oppose properly”

      And the cry goes up “SCOREBOARD!”

      Two Party Preferred Vote (excludes NT, based on preference flows at the last election)
      COALITION 55%, LABOR 45%

      Figures from Newspoll, 28/6/11

      They may no be the best Opposition the world has ever seen but they’d much rather have their figures than yours, Albanese.

    • NOT impressed says:

      04:15pm | 08/07/11

      Albanese, the very fact you wrote this proves your FREAKing out about what your leadership is doing to this country or your as arrogant as you appear to be on TV. Try working on your own issues and stop treating Australian public as if they are incapable of making decisions for themselves.

    • MarK says:

      04:43pm | 08/07/11

      This thread didn’t work out so well for you Albanese did it.

      People have stopped listening.

    • More morons in mackay says:

      10:13pm | 08/07/11

      HUH?  MarK, did you say sumphin?

    • Brad says:

      08:35am | 10/07/11

      Well said MarK! People have stopped listening…

    • Reggie says:

      03:28pm | 10/07/11

      eh? Are there still readers who waste their lives reading MarKs sad rubbish.

    • Richard says:

      05:36pm | 08/07/11

      Albo, regarding your bragging about the fact that the government has managed to pass 160 Bills or whatever in the last year since Julia Gillard’s coup, I refer you to this quote by the famous Medieval Japanese Swordsman, Miyomoto Musashi.

      ““The important thing in strategy is to suppress the enemy’s useful actions but allow his useless actions”

      From one look at the current state of the Polls, it would seem that Abbott’s strategy is succeeding.

    • Jovial Monk says:

      05:47pm | 08/07/11

      Some huge reforms in those 160 bills passed.

      Amazing, someone up there says oppositions oppose. They haven’t been doing much of a job opposing so far! 160 Bills through, no amendments accepted except where the amendments had govt support. This opposition not much chop at opposing!

      Maybe better at scaring people, but when they see the Carbon Tax doesn’t hurt them financially the opposition won’t even be able to scare people anymore. And all the time the NBN is being rolled out.

    • Chris L says:

      06:37pm | 08/07/11

      They’ll still be able to scare people JM. They still have people believing that labor ministers were in people’s roofs setting them on fire during the insulation scheme.

    • Muzz says:

      05:57pm | 08/07/11

      Oh well I guess Albo won’t be back in a hurry. Sorry Punch.

    • Albo says:

      07:34pm | 08/07/11

      You got that right Muzz.

    • Tez says:

      06:52pm | 08/07/11

      Well done Anthony. A great effort in governing. i have said it before and I will say it now: Julia Gillard is the only politician in Australia who could have successfully negotiated such a huge number of bills through a parliament such as we have now. Actually, i think a hung parliament is much better as all bills are put through the wringer before they are passed. ( Even if the Lib/Nats coalition contributes absolutely nothing.)

    • James D says:

      07:19pm | 08/07/11

      Albanese, you’re an unrepresentative hack. For your own selfish reasons you’ve let the people of NSW down badly as Federal Infrastructure Minister. The sooner you’re gone the better.

    • Bilbo says:

      12:44pm | 09/07/11

      “Albanese, you’re an unrepresentative hack”
      Actually he represents his constituants of which I am one, very well. A major reason that Albo has contributed here is to present a positive perspective concerning the government he is part of to counter balance the consistantly negative coverage favoured by this corperations American owner. Any application of criteria for measuring media bias applied by reputable academic instutions will confirm this.
      I also note that no mention has been made of the fact that Albo’s background is of a genuine battler compared to Tony Abbott’s GPS born to rule.

    • Ron V. says:

      08:04pm | 08/07/11

      Alby, you and your wife make a good pair. Jeez, it would be quite sickening to listen to both of you at the dinner table. Watching you both pat each others back would be as bad as watching Joolie and the lad at the Lodge. If you Labor geniuses think your so right, call an election and watch yourselves sink into oblivion. The country needs a change, AND URGENTLY.
      Ron.

    • NicoleG says:

      08:52pm | 08/07/11

      Disgraceful comment. This has nothing to do with his wife. It’s highly offencive and down right low. Bag him all you want, but leave his family out of it. And that goes for Gillard and her partner, Abbott and his wife and the rest of the Pm’s. You really should be ashamed of yourself.

    • NicoleG says:

      09:26pm | 08/07/11

      ‘MP’s’

    • More morons in mackay says:

      10:11pm | 08/07/11

      Ron, if you haven’t heard, the change is coming on Sunday. From that day you’ll see old one trick sink, along with the prospects of an LNP victory.

    • Just Sayin' says:

      11:19pm | 08/07/11

      In case you missed a few headlines, NicoleG, Anthony Albanese’s wife was the deputy premier of NSW until the voters threw Labor out in a massive landslide. As a politician, she is fair game in a political debate, not just some innocent bystander being dragged in for no reason.

    • Unionist says:

      08:06am | 09/07/11

      What do you expect from a conservative Nicole. “Just Saying Says” probably get off at stealing lil kiddies ice creams… you can add Ron V to that list kiddie ice cream stealers.

    • Alex says:

      11:39pm | 08/07/11

      I have listened to parliament everyday for the last week, in that time ALP forced through good policy in the face of a howling pack of conservatives nearly everyday. I can think of plenty of straight answers being given in question time by the government. It was nicest listening to the senate because conservatives seem to know how to behave in there instead of howling like animals as soon as the house appears to be coming to order.

      This is a government with poor sales skills but good policy competing with no policy and oodles of fearmongering garbage.

    • Paul Mason says:

      12:29am | 09/07/11

      The overall content of these blogs would appear to suggest that you ,Mr. Albanese and the Gov. of which you are a member are both CACTUS.

    • Nick says:

      07:54am | 09/07/11

      Can the Liberal Cyber whingers point out the countriesthat are run by thier Political persuasion that is doing better than ours?

    • Anybody? says:

      12:46pm | 09/07/11

      Apparently not
      Envy of the world Australia is.

    • jf says:

      01:17pm | 09/07/11

      Do you mean another consitutional monarchy or another market economy.

      Either way, no Nick I can’t. One hundred years of largely conservative governments and a free market economy have indeed served us well.

      I can, on the other hand, point out plenty of countries that have been ruined by the socialist hell that those of your political persuasion are endeavouring to implement.

      Let’s start with the impact of the, thankfully brief, socialist experiement of Gough Whitlam. Thank Christ he was only around for three years.

      However, I was distracted. We were discussing the relative performance of free market economies and/or constitutional democracies (eg Australia) vs socialist states.

      By “doing better” I assume you refer to personal freedom and quality of life.

      So let’s see:

      Let’s start with the Soviet Union - appalling on both measures
      Cuba - appalling on both measures
      Most of Eastern Europe - appalling on both measures
      China - appalling on both measures
      Vietnam - appalling on both measures
      North Korea - appalling on both measures

      This is getting tiresome. Your turn. I’ll make it easy for you and ask you to point out any countries that don’t have either a free market economy OR are democracies that are just doing ok.

    • Fed Up says:

      01:32pm | 09/07/11

      Question time in Parliament is a joke merely for the fact that the Gov never answers any of the Oppositions questions which leads to the suspension of standing orders and a free for all.
      When ever the Gov gets into a corner over a well crafted question they resort to “Work Choices” and bring up ancient history…the Howard Gov.
      When the Gov asks questions they do so to attack the Opposition instead of prosecuting arguements for their policies.
      If the Opposition seems to continually oppose Gov policies it’s because the policies are either bad (not well thought out) or have been implemented in a disasterous fashion eg Batts,School Halls,NBN,Mining Tax,Refugees,Cattle Ind and now Carbon Tax.
      This is just a terrible Labor Gov run by inept ministers/public servants.
      They may have some interesting ideas/policies but the prosecution and implementation are woeful which is indicative of the various state Labor Gov that have ruined this country.
      I don’t want your pathetic handouts Ms Gillard, i want you and your lattee drinking fools gone.
      I don’t want your pathetic carbon tax compensation… i want the cost of living(electricity,gas,water etc etc) increases we have been suffering through your/Labors incompetence down scaled as of this minute.
      I want you to be held accountable for all the millions of tax payers money you and those other Labor fools have wasted.
      And i want it ...NOW

    • mark says:

      08:13pm | 09/07/11

      Absolutely , how lucky these incompetent f&cker; s are we dont live in the middle east or they would be out by now and probably hung in the street , well put !

    • Bilbo says:

      02:30pm | 09/07/11

      It is interesting to note that those who are critical of Labor are quick to howl “SOCIALISTS” without actually understanding what they are accusing people of. As socialism is usually defined as ownership and control of the means of production by the state, the Hawke / Keating Labor government practiced the exact opposite by privatising state owned assets (e.g. Telstra and Qantas).  In light of this it is obvious that those howling “SOCIALISTS” are are either ignorant of the facts or trying to frighten the ignorant into accepting a patently false construct as truth.

    • jf says:

      03:14pm | 09/07/11

      There is a very real difference between the Hawke/Keating Governments and the Gillard/Brown Government.

      That the government wants to take an effective stake in private companies via a super profits tax, that the wish to re-distribute wealth via a carbon tax (that excludes carbon), that they believe in big government, that they wish to socialise the Labor force and that their leader was, up until it become politically inconvenient, a long-time member of the Socialist Forum (including a stint as Secretary), is what leads us to “howl” SOCIALISTS.

    • Lesley Laurel says:

      05:52pm | 09/07/11

      Your comment:At last we have a Punch writer who knows the real truth about the Liberal National Party Of Australia. We here have A Punch writer has awoken from sleep and dreamland .
      AT last, we have at least one punch writer, who realises the dead obvious.
      That truth is that The Liberals are dead set rats meat.

    • mark says:

      07:48pm | 09/07/11

      By all means ( Carbon )  tax me into alternative behavior, at the moment the alternative to turning on the lights when I get home is to . umm… Live in the stone age , I have no alternative to ” causing ” , ?. ?? anthropological climate change ??  currently , no matter what I pay , or who I pay it to.
      Predicting that this theoretical / hypothetical hypothesis, based on current temperature figures and projections could be caused by myself and my family warrants taxing me into submission ! pain is good , right ?

    • Brad says:

      08:22pm | 09/07/11

      Not taking sides but I think it is interesting that Mr Abbott spends more time on his athletic pursuits than he doe sin parliament. 

      Ms Gillard spends most of her day working (for the country).

      Whichever side of politics you prefer you should be demanding that your side take issues seriously and not just pay lip service when you get a camera on you.

      At least Mr Howard knew the meaning of work ethic.

      I would like a leader of the Coalition that isn’t well Tony Abbott.

    • Bilbo says:

      12:29pm | 10/07/11

      JF
      So now I see that the definition of socialism accepted by you in this forum appears to be taxation of private enterprise by government. This being the case the Liberal / National Coalition must also be socialists because they also imposed taxation on private enterprises only differing from Labor governments over the formula under which it is collected and the amounts collected. It is sad when uneducated people demonstrate their stupidity by confusing emotive opinion with objective fact.

    • jf says:

      08:14am | 12/07/11

      Not at all Bilbo. It is for this reason that I used the term advisedly in referring to the ALP.

      I don’t, by and large, think that the ALP is, or ever was, a socialist party.

      In fact, I don’t seem to recall doing so on this page or anywhere else on the Punch other than in reply to your post.

      So, before I reiterate my point I will say that I agree that taxes are necessary.

      However, what is not in dispute is that Julia Gillard was the secretary of the Socialist Forum and, until politically inconvenient, a paid up member. I don’t think that it’s drawing a long bow to suggest that someone who has been a member of the Socialist Forum for most of her adult life, and who only resigned because of her career ambitions, may be, well, a Socialist.

      As to tax. Tax is tax. However, this government wants to nationalise private companies. That is socialism.

      This government is in coalition with a the Greens; a socialist party.

      This government has just announced tax reform shamefully disguised as a carbon tax. That is socialism.

      This government wants to socialise the workforce. That is socialism.

      I would go on to list the policy ambitions of the Greens however I think that we can all accept as fact that they are a socialist party.

    • Bilbo says:

      04:42pm | 12/07/11

      “...As to tax. Tax is tax. However, private companies. That is socialism…”
      To nationalise a private company is to take ownership and control by the state. Recent evidence of Labor Party actions (e.g. privatisation of Telstra, Qantas ,Lotto) points to the opposite. So could someone advise exactly which companies “this government wants to nationalise” and what specific actions they have taken to divest them from private ownership and place them under the ownership and control of the state. Without supporting evidence those that howl SOCIALIST do run a risk of the person who they have defamed with that term seeking redress in the civil courts under the tort of libel. As the criteria on which the matter will be judged is a requirement to demonstrate “truth and public interest” it is fun watching loud fools come unstuck when they realise that their subjective opinion is not admissable as evidence in court.
      I also note a claim that “This government wants to socialise the workforce. That is socialism…” Could we please have some objective evidence (not subjective opinion) supporting this statement?

    • Melinda says:

      04:48pm | 10/07/11

      Maybe Albanese needs to focus on good government not good opposition. A green will take his position form his and his seat…

    • Greg says:

      05:12pm | 10/07/11

      Isn’t it funny that whenever the Conservative parties do anything lately, it is immediately labelled a stunt by the ALP. Abbott visits Nauru: “Stunt’ cries the ALP spin doctors. Scott Morrisson visits Malaysia “Stunt”. Queensland LNP propose remedy for Bruce Hwy flood-proofing: ‘Stunt’ cries the Bligh minders. I ask the ALP: Is this the new buzz word when the opposition makes you look foolish? Just yell ‘stunt’ and hope we’re all stupid enough to believe you? Well I’m sorry - we are NOT stupid. These things are NOT stunts. They are genuine attempts to make things better. Have you also noticed how the ALP seems to be getting it’s butt kicked at every election lately? Well get ready guys - Queensland, then Federal - you’re next. Bring it on.

    • Cat says:

      01:05pm | 11/07/11

      A key feature of a bicameral parliamentary system of government is the possibility that a deadlock may arise between the two houses of parliament. In Australia, for a bill to become law, it must be passed by both houses of parliament, as prescribed by Section 58 of the Constitution:
      When a proposed law passed by both Houses of Parliament is presented to the Governor-General for the Queen’s assent, he shall declare, according to his discretion, but subject to this Constitution, that he assents in the Queen’s name, or that he withholds assent, or that he reserves the law for the Queen’s pleasure.
      Clearly, the possibility for disagreement between the two houses of parliament is possible in Australia. This disagreement reached its height in 1975 when the Senate refused to vote on the Whitlam Government’s budget bills.
      One means of resolving conflict between the two houses of parliament is by means of a “double dissolution” of the Parliament.
      A Double Dissolution of the Australian Parliament is allowed under Section 57 of the Australian Constitution:
      We have a country disillusioned and is worse than 1975. Does this count.

    • Cat says:

      01:10pm | 11/07/11

      A key feature of a bicameral parliamentary system of government is the possibility that a deadlock may arise between the two houses of parliament. In Australia, for a bill to become law, it must be passed by both houses of parliament, as prescribed by Section 58 of the Constitution:

      When a proposed law passed by both Houses of Parliament is presented to the Governor-General for the Queen’s assent, he shall declare, according to his discretion, but subject to this Constitution, that he assents in the Queen’s name, or that he withholds assent, or that he reserves the law for the Queen’s pleasure.
      Clearly, the possibility for disagreement between the two houses of parliament is possible in Australia. This disagreement reached its height in 1975 when the Senate refused to vote on the Whitlam Government’s budget bills.
      One means of resolving conflict between the two houses of parliament is by means of a “double dissolution” of the Parliament.

      A Double Dissolution of the Australian Parliament is allowed under Section 57 of the Australian Constitution:
      We have a country who has a dissolution does that count?

    • Weary says:

      01:48pm | 11/07/11

      No need to oppose.  Just sit back and watch Gillard continue to fail, shooting herself in the foot at every turn, and lying at every other one.  Oppose what?  A laughable trainwreck heading to electoral oblivion?  Still, good article, whatever the point was.

    • James says:

      03:38pm | 11/07/11

      I have a five year old cousin who says no to everything, can you guess who she reminds me of and it is very scary let me tell you.

    • Greg says:

      07:45pm | 11/07/11

      Who care if Gillard ‘lied’? I would expect her to do whatever it takes to stop an bigoted unaustralian lunatic like Abbott getting in. I expect her to use all guile and cunning to save Australia from having a luddite like Abbott winning. Her ‘lie’ disappointed me at first (because I am FOR the carbon tax/ETS) and her speediness in bringing one in is something I applaud. Well what about Abbott -  Didn’t he lie too? Where’s the anger against him? Abbott, the guy who told Sky news TV in 2009 ‘if you want to put a price on carbon….do it with a simple tax!’ Abbott who swiftly and promptly cut health funding straight after the 2004 election, even after promising not to. Abbott who won’t tell us his real IR intentions (i.e. code for bringing back workchoices) which is lying by omission. Abbott who was asleep, drunk and hungover in his office when he should have been in parliament when stimulus bills were being discussed. Under no circumstances can Australia ever ever afford a Abbott government.

 

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