Early last year, a former Rudd Government insider sat down to write about the experience. The resulting document - he called it “a reflection in all seriousness once the period of madness was over” - has never been published.

Cartoon: Warren Brown

But in the current climate, where the way Kevin Rudd operated as prime minister has become the central issue in Labor’s bitter leadership contest, it makes fascinating reading.

The author, who operated in a key role and observed much of the discussion and decision making, says  he would not bother to set down his recollections “except that they are such a powerful warning for future governments”.  

His starting point is that “the Rudd Government was never, and could never have been, a functional government because of the man who ran it”.  

Reeling from vicious attacks by former ministerial colleagues determined to finish him off politically, Rudd will see the emergence of the paper now as yet another product of what he described yesterday as “the spin machine of the faceless men”.

It no doubt serves the purposes of the former PM’s enemies, but it was created well before the possibility of a Rudd leadership comeback started to be taken seriously by anyone. And its creator is no longer on the scene. 

There is a section on “the culture of blame and fear throughout the government”, claiming that Rudd’s angry treatment of staff and public servants was very calculated.

“We all knew of advisers being ‘put in the freezer’ for crossing their boss. It was childish to watch - he would refuse to look at them in meetings and simply ignore anything they said until they gave up and quit or made amends.

“In this way he ensured he got obedience, but at the cost, of course, of getting proper advice.”

The paper says Rudd was a poor Cabinet chairman who rarely arrived on time for meetings, leaving ministers and officials twiddling their thumbs. Usually he would not submit to pre-Cabinet briefing sessions so that he arrived unprepared.

“Officials and private staff would give him briefing notes for cabinet but unfortunately these very frequently were not read… he used the Cabinet meeting as a personal briefing session.

“The PM also had what can only be described as a sixth sense for irrelevant detail and would obsess about such matters for hours during cabinet meetings.

“Ministers couldn’t help but become inattentive… it became standard practice for most ministers to arrive with minutes to sign or papers to read for the long unproductive hours in cabinet.

Also, because ministers were afraid of making mistakes and incurring Rudd’s wrath, the Cabinet agenda was full of  “minor regulatory decisions a minister would normally make on his or her own”.

The paper complains of too much centralising of decisions in Rudd’s office, but says a bigger problem was that he all too frequently then refused to make the decisions.

As a result, “options would simply disappear because the time for exercising them had passed”.

Suspecting staff might try to manipulate him, Rudd would decline to sign routine documents until he could study them in detail. The author notes: “Time spent checking the paperwork for government board appointments is time spent not reading intelligence material from the front-line in Afghanistan.”

Another problem, according to the paper, was that Rudd always wanted to do too many things, resulting in “policy priorities tripping over each other and too little being decided” as well as “no time to explain and sell what the government was doing”.

This came to a head in the first six months of 2010. “As the election drew closer you could see ministers becoming increasingly alarmed that the agenda seemed to be getting bigger, not smaller”.

Rudd kept raising new agendas, even though “the money was never there to buy reform in these areas, and major reprioritisations and reorganisations could not be risked in the shadow of an election. Yet these things kept being debated, with the PM and his advisers increasingly angry that ministers on one side and Treasury and Finance on the other couldn’t just square the circle.”

The author suggests that “for the PM, all this activity was a way of forestalling the need for decisions he simply found too difficult to make”. Rudd, he writes, “needed all these ancillary debates to avoid making decisions about the big things everyone knew needed to be sorted: tax, the Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme and asylum seekers”.

It was through the negotiations over carbon pricing that “we learnt that Kevin Rudd would never have that ability of all successful long-term leaders and that is to go into a defensive crouch and absorb a few days of punches to hold a position that would serve him well in the longer term”.

“The PM had a reflexive fear of even momentary unpopularity, so that he became an easy target for every lobbyist in town”.

It says that, despite Rudd’s reputation as a policy wonk, “this was something we never, ever saw behind closed doors. His instinct was invariably for the politics of a policy problem.

“His most common put-down of officials and his own policy wonks was ‘That’s a fine idea, but how do I explain it on Today Tonight?’.

“I suspect he simply didn’t like the way officials thought - of practicalities, long-term consequences, consistency with other policies.

“These all became an unnecessary burden in his management of the politics and the media cycle. Nearing the end, he seemed to take each piece of considered policy advice as a personal affront or thinly veiled invitation for him to commit political suicide”.

The author argues that the over-crowded agenda was the core problem in the lead-up to Rudd’s downfall. Serious time was not spent resolving climate change policy, asylum seekers and the tax review because of “the PM’s obsession with health reform”.

He says: “There was the PM’s terrifying flirtation with a referendum on the referral of state health powers to the Commonwealth. It took months to persuade him that, with the opposition and very likely at least WA opposed, such a referendum would certainly fail and not only be a terrible political defeat but also clarify the health powers for good and in the Commonwealth’s distinct disfavour.”

And the paper concludes: “By the end, what did for him was the mounting impossibility of conveying any kind of sensible advice to him through the thicket of his impossible daily schedule and an obvious personal physical exhaustion”.

Just one person’s view, of course - but someone who saw it up close.

Laurie Oakes is political editor for the Nine Network.His column appears every Saturday in News Limited papers.

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    • Sony B Goode says:

      05:16am | 25/02/12

      The facts are that KRudd was knifed because he was headed for certain electoral wipeout. Gillard is doing exactly the same. It does matter which ugly face they put in the blustering socialist wizard of OZ, the truth is people have had a gut full of prosperity destroying policies. Put anonymous in charge and the result are the same; the Australian Losers Party is yesterday’s party destroying tomorrow’s future!

    • camzhydro says:

      07:40am | 25/02/12

      ^^Like

    • Tony of Poorakistan says:

      08:01am | 25/02/12

      I still think Krudd was knifed because while the faceless men knew he could win the election, and did, they then disapproved of his policy direction afterwards. His health reforms would not have pleased the unions at all.

      Hence Gillard, who owes her seat to the unions.

    • Little Joe says:

      08:05am | 25/02/12

      You have to wonder about Labor’s throw away lies -

      “We are ready to govern!!!” “A good government that lost it’s way” “No Carbon Tax under a Government that I lead” “We are better economy managers”

      Deceit Neglect Apathy ...... that’s Labor’s DNA.

    • Purge Julia says:

      08:31am | 25/02/12

      That is debatable,what isn’t debatable is that if Gillard leads Labor to the next election she will lose so badly and that it may take several electoral cycles to get Labor back in.

    • Daniel says:

      08:42am | 25/02/12

      Wait, prosperity destroying policies? What planet are you on? Are you one of those “the australian economy is screwed!” people? You know, the ones not living in reality?

    • Bill of Queensland says:

      09:34am | 25/02/12

      Looking forward to UNDERBELLY STILETTO! It is a jungle out there! Changing captains on the Titanic would not have changed a disaster into anything else! Labor will be sunk by the iceberg of fundamentally flawed policies combined with staggering incompetence and mendacity! Kevin Rudd was the ineffectual leader during the Ocean Viking fiasco! Julia Gillard participated in the catastrophically costly Building the Education Revolution (BER), insulation and Malaysia solution and also foisted the Carbon Tax on us! Changing leaders will not achieve anything! A CHANGE of GOVERNMENT is the ANSWER!

    • Parranormal says:

      09:53am | 25/02/12

      @ Daniel - you have got to be kidding. These bloody fools are destroying the Australian economy - you obviously work for a government agency not to see this. The rest of us are crashing… the struggle is becoming insurmountable for some and suicide is rising. This bloody mob is absolutely destroying this country. I firmly believe no goverment employee at any level should earn more than $200k. No person employed by the goverment should have the vote. You are public servants your job is to serve. Dont kid yourself that you are in any way related to a similar position in private enterprise. You do not create weath you sole purpose is to dream up new methods of stealing from the meagre purses of those who strive to keep this country grest. Go to hell Julia and your take your bloody mob with you.

    • The Galah from Hervey Bay says:

      09:58am | 25/02/12

      Sonny B Goode is correct . Both contenders , Gillard and Rudd are egotistical bastards, both have their focus on their self-serving interests , both have the handicap of being unable to receive a message and both will undoubtedly finish in the annals of infamy as being Prime Ministerial failures.

      Rudd can not comprehend he is regarded as irrational , automonous , and dictatorial by his own party.

      Gillard sees reform via the prosperity killing Carbon Tax as her greatest accomplishment and has managed to convince her own party to accept this idiotic view.

    • Phil says:

      10:13am | 25/02/12

      exactly Sony - Rudd was useless and those that were close to the Government machine knew it - I also blame the Press as they knew it and didn’t report it at the time - why were they so enamoured with Rudd that they overlooked his incompetence? Gillard or Rudd - it doesn’t matter - Labor gone for 3 or 4 terms.

    • Fed Up says:

      10:21am | 25/02/12

      Finally, someone who remembers the actual facts.  Rudd was heading for certain electoral defeat.  It doesn’t matter who you put in charge of the Labor party, it’s still the Labor party and the electorate had already worked out what it stands for - overspending and overtaxing.

    • Ricey says:

      10:36am | 25/02/12

      Absolute gold, Sony.

    • Ricey says:

      10:46am | 25/02/12

      No Daniel, he means the policies which keep gnawing at middle and higher income earners, which have since 2007 begun eroding their prosperity.  You know, the people who bargain for their own salaries, are ambitious, and have skills and intellect to get them somewhere without relying on a Union.  They pay the most tax and now get absolutely nothing in return; no baby bonuses, no family tax breaks, no tax breaks on education/laptops for kids, “luxury” car tax, eroded private health care rebates, higher Medicare surcharges.  So despite paying enormous amounts of tax, we now get nothing in return, except to watch a circus of a government, totally misspend and waste it.  At least if the LNP was misspending my tax money, they were giving everyone the same tax breaks/bonuses, so it slightly numbed the pain.  Under Labor, there’s a clear division of us and them.

    • RBarron says:

      10:48am | 25/02/12

      I have been a Labor voter all my life since 18.
      I am 43 now.
      Right up until the last election when I voted for the Liberal Party for the 1st time.
      I was a Union Delegate for 10 years I will never voter Labor again with this dickhead and liar in charge and not listening to their voters and lying to us to steal our vote.
      All the people who voted for Labor or the Liberal Party at the last election voted for No Carbon Tax.
      End of store.
      Julia Gillard’s word is worth nothing.
      She changed her mind on the Carbon Tax and put 1 in just to form government and make herself Prime Minister.
      Enjoy Julia we can’t wait to get a vote and show you what OUR words mean.
      I am dead set against the Carbon Tax have you read the latest findings with Climate Change go and do some research.
      EU and US are broke with public debt.
      In 2007 was the 1st time I split my vote and voted for Kevin in the lower house and the Libs for the 1st time in the upper house because while I wanted a change from Howard I never trusted Rudd the guy is a millionaire. Thank god I spilt my vote and I was 1 of many that flooded the liberal party to stop the carbon tax in 2009 and they changed their leadship.
      I never trusted Julia and for the 1st time voted for the libs in both houses.
      It was the 1st time ever in the last NSW election that the Labor party loss the set of Granville and it wasn’t all state issues either.
      You wait until the next federal election.
      My family have had a business for 50 years the area the people are doing it tuff and can’t wait to vote mainly because they were lied too.
      A person word out here means allot.
      If your word means nothing here then you are in trouble.

      Labor got 4,711,363 1st Preferences votes the Coalition 5,365,529 1st Preferences votes.
      So together both parties said that there would be NO CARBON TAX FULLSTOP.
      So together 10,076,892 Voters voted 1st Preferences for parties that said that there would be No Carbon Tax.

      Gillard and Swan are Liars.
      Gillard stole 4,711,363 votes by telling the people that there would be No Carbon Tax under the Government she leads.
      Gillard’s leads the Government so she is a Liar.
      Swan said that “what we rejected is this hysterical allegation that somehow we are moving towards a carbon tax” (Meet the Press, 15 August 2010).
      Swan “We have made our position very clear, we have ruled it out” (7.30 Report, 12 August 2010).
      Gillard just doesn’t get it full stop.
      Whether Gillard like it or not NO voter elected her as Prime Minister it was the Independents.
      That is not a democracy when the people that voted didn’t elect a Primer Minister.
      The Independents were not elected to pick the Prime Minister.
      The system needs to be fixed when 10,076,892 Voters voted 1st Preferences for a parties that said that there would be No Carbon Tax.
      At best less than 2 million voted for a Carbon Tax.
      So a ratio 5 to 1 people voted for parties that said that there would be No Carbon Tax.
      Gillard will not return Labor to power!

      Eat up and enjoy because most will not have a job after the next election.

      Rudd is better just listen to the people.
      But you have to ditch the Carbon Tax end of story otherwise it doesn’t matter who will be in charge.

    • Farmboy says:

      11:17am | 25/02/12

      Agree with you totally!!! and may I just add:
      “the people of a nation get the government they deserve”

    • Rosie says:

      12:00pm | 25/02/12

      No it does matter who they put in charge! They must take their cue from Anthony Albanese in how to first conduct themselves in the eyes of the public during a crisis as such.  Albanese should be commended for his old fashion etiquette, convictions and beliefs. It was on full display to the public as he gave his reasons to back former PM Kevin Rudd in a very emotional speech. Other Labor MPs should take notice if there is to be any hope left for the Labor brand tainted by Julia Gillard and the faceless men.

      Albanese was very emotional in his speech and even I, a Liberal supporter was proud of the way he conducted himself compared to Swan, Roxon, Gillard etc At the end of the day we are all Australians trying to do the right thing for our country!

      Once again Gillard’s judgement was way off the mark! Like the axing of Rudd, she should have waited and had private discussion in caucus to save the Labor brand and the humiliation she has placed on the Australian people.

      Kudos to Anthony Albanese, as an Aussie I am extremely proud of you! In Parliament during Question Time you are a Pain!

    • Bridget says:

      12:05pm | 25/02/12

      The only reason that Gillard is heading for electoral wipeout is because of KRudd. Eliminate him and there won’t be this relentless attack on her government being played out incessantly in the media by the Master Puppeteer/Serious Psychopath.

      The people can then see the reforms that this government is achieving in Parliament without all the venomous poison spewing forth from the Angry Little Troll. Without him he Labor Party can’t help but succeed further! ZIP OFF, KRUDD!

    • john says:

      12:59pm | 25/02/12

      @Sony B Goode “It does matter which ugly face they put in the blustering socialist wizard of OZ”

      Not really it doesn’t make any difference, regardless who wins Monday, there will be ALP resignations before the next election. The boat has been rocked too much. Who will fall out?
      I don’t buy the bulldust that they will re-unit under Rudd or Gillard after Monday.  Its terminal.

      Can you see swan, julia or even crean stay?

      Do you see Rudd, and some of his supporters staying? After Monday, with Julia’s pending eventual loss to the liberals before the 18 months are up.

      The outcome is the same. By-elections. Tony will then go to the GG for change of governing the house.

      The only successful way forward for Labor is Rudd wins, SNAP election NOW with double disolution trigger whilst the populist support is there in the HOPE the labor party will pull together.

      LOL…Tony Abbott should careful what he wishes for, he could lose the unlosable election.

    • mexican beemer says:

      01:37pm | 25/02/12

      Parranormal

      I understand your point and yes the economy is growing slowly but your point that the public sector created nothing and all wealth is created by the private sector seems to miss the point that in many cases the private sector biggest customer is the public sector.

    • Bertrand says:

      01:42pm | 25/02/12

      @Parranormal - “These bloody fools are destroying the Australian economy”

      Do you have any evidence to back up this claim? As far as I can tell, our key economic indicators (unemployment rates, GDP growth, inflation and interest rates) are all quite good. Certainly, there are industries and areas of the economy that are struggling, but I would suggest your claim that the economy is being destroyed is little more than wild hyperbole.

      There are myriad valid complaints you could make about this government. Destroying the economy isn’t one of them.

      “No person employed by the goverment should have the vote.”

      I completely agree. We should strip the democratic right to vote from all of those non-contributors employed by the government. Why should public school teachers, public hospital nurses, police officers, soldiers, customs officers, garbage men, fire-fighters, etc have the right to vote? They clearly provide nothing to this nation and are nothing but leaches who suckle at the public teat.

    • maureen hubbard says:

      01:46pm | 25/02/12

      I think the Governor General should call a federal election as quickly as possible.  As Australians I feel we are all heartily sick of the power fighting and need a government with our country foremost.  The asylum seeker problem and the overseas countries buying up our land are of much greater importance than egos.

    • Mack says:

      01:49pm | 25/02/12

      This sums it up perfectly…..

      Rudd’s revenge: Labor now a laughing stock in funny Barnaby is Right

      vidbit.ly/ADhxaw

    • Bertrand says:

      01:50pm | 25/02/12

      @RBaron - “have you read the latest findings with Climate Change go and do some research.”

      Yes. Every year the scientific case for AGW becomes more solid. The only findings that challenge it are coming from ‘scientists’ being funded by vested interests or from people who are making claims outside of their scientific field.

      Feel free to criticise the model for dealing with climate change that the government has put forward, but if you are going to make the claim that AGW has been debunked you might want to do some more research yourself.

    • Paul M says:

      02:22pm | 25/02/12

      What prosperity-destroying policies? The rest of the world in in the toilet, but Australia is doing fine. I think your opinions are informed a-priori by you philosophies, not the facts.

    • John says:

      03:05pm | 25/02/12

      @Sony and all uneducated Liberal hacks,
      This is an excerpt from an educated person:

      “Nathan is a mate of mine. He’s been angry since the early 90s.

      He spends his day listening to redneck talkback radio, and each time I see him we have the same conversation:

      Nathan: “Things aren’t looking good. Our retailers are hitting the wall, jobs are being shed, manufacturing’s shot, and the world’s biggest carbon tax is soon going to hit us between the eyes.”

      Barefoot: “You have a portrait of Tony Abbott above your bed, don’t you?”

      And on it goes. Nathan is convinced we’re heading for a financial depression. Yet he’s never read an economics text in his life. He’s really just parroting back what he’s been hearing.

      As a crusty old newsman once barked at me, ‘If It bleeds, it leads’. News programmers (and politicians) understand that the most effective way to grab, and hold, our attention is by scaring us. This explains why right now everywhere we turn we’re faced with doom and gloom about the economy. Increasingly we live in a culture of fear.

      But if you’re going to become financially successful, you need to understand that fear doesn’t serve you. It drives the media. It drives politics. And it drives the economy. Just don’t let it drive you.

      And Now For Some Good News

      Let’s face it - as a nation we’re kind of like the Kardashians: incredibly rich, not particularly productive, and we go on silly spending sprees (like the National Broadband Network) and get away with it because we were born with some red hot ‘assets’ everyone wants. Here’s why the future’s so bright we have to wear shades (or mining hard hats).

      “We have an incredibly strong economy”

      A ham sandwich could run this economy and it would still go gangbusters. The mining sector not only pulled us from harm’s way four years ago, it’s meant that today’s 21-year-old uni graduate has never experienced a recession.

      “Unemployment is incredibly low”

      Our unemployment rate of 5.1 per cent is the envy of the world. In the US it’s 8.3, in Greece it’s 21, and in Spain it’s 23. While the strong Aussie dollar is reshaping our workforce, retrenched workers can walk into another job.

      “Our interest rates are some of the highest in the world”

      Most coverage of interest rates is ‘boo, hiss’, but high interest rates means our Reserve Bank can stimulate the economy if need be, and savers can earn a decent return. (Spare a thought for a retiree in America earning 1 per cent on their dough.)

      “We’re the richest people on earth”

      Aussie adults are worth nearly four times that of each US adult. Even if you don’t feel rich, you are. With mostly free healthcare, mostly free education, and a very generous social safety net, we’ve got it pretty good.

      Trouble is, most people don’t see it this way.”

      The trouble is all Liberal idiots don’t see it this way.

    • Tony says:

      03:42pm | 25/02/12

      @ Paranormal, well said!! Lest we forget it’s Bob B..ch who is in control here. The independents have also had their day and they will also get wiped out. Carbon tax, NBN, notebooks on every kids lap so they can get on facebook and be hit with more covert sales pitches (not actually be productive). But then lets throw up the Green’s gay marriage distraction (again) once the real issues get a bit hot, I mean most people don’t care one way or the other, but we do care about the wealth being stolen from us to pay for useless crap. A least Howard left us with money in the bank when he went, that’s what really saved us from the GFC. Well done Johnny!!

    • Denny Crane says:

      04:59pm | 25/02/12

      Bertrand “Yes. Every year the scientific case for AGW becomes more solid. The only findings that challenge it are coming from ‘scientists’ being funded by vested interests or from people who are making claims outside of their scientific field. “

      The case for AWG gets stronger a deterined by very well paid governmnt scientistswho are rding the gravy train. Thy are beng paid to prove the point. It is the who have the huge vested interest. Each time they make a claim it proves false yet you say th casegets stronger.

      I suppose one of those peole talking outside their area of expertise i Tim Flannery. How’ that drought going Tim? It seems the water did fill th dams after all. Of wel not to worry, just slip out to themail box and pick up your governmet cheque.

    • Andrew says:

      05:39pm | 25/02/12

      John and bertrand, imagine how good it would be if labor actually had decent policies. Bertrand, if your happy for the government to lose more jobs then it created inj the past year (the first time since the 90’s) then I guess thats your perognitive. Its your happy to pretend the reserve bank interes rate of 4.25% is what matters when everyone is paying a real rate of 7.25-7.50% then again thats your perognitive. You quick to point out that oversea unemployment rates are 8%, 20% etc but conviently forget to mention that interest rates in the same places are 0-2 % (mostly less then 1%). You also fail to mention why unemployment rates overseas are so high, maybe it has something to do with wasting Billions on dollars, many of these dollars on ‘green’ schemes which dont work, many which are labor party policies here, and in some cases we are going to throw more money at these schemes then they have overseas.

    • Geez... says:

      07:04pm | 25/02/12

      @ John
      Here’s the scary bit…...John is allowed to vote. Ever wonder why we are now in this cess pit of political bullshit.

    • Bertrand says:

      02:27am | 26/02/12

      @Denny Crane - “The case for AWG gets stronger a deterined by very well paid governmnt scientistswho are rding the gravy train. Thy are beng paid to prove the point. It is the who have the huge vested interest.”

      Many of the scientists are working in the privately sector and are employed through universities, etc. Those who do work for the government aren’t exactly rolling in the money.

      Feel free to believe that the 97% of the world’s climate scientists who agree with the consensus are somehow involved in some vast conspiracy, but please realise that you, along with the armchair conspiracy theorists who self-congratulate each other on your ability to see through the lies and conspiracy, may in fact know less than say the NASA scientists who have produced peer reviewed satellite evidence that very clearly shows less heat energy is escaping Earth’s atmosphere at the very waves lengths at which CO2 absorbs it and the other scientists who have produced peer-reviewed and verifiable surface data that shows the amount of heat radiation being reflected back to Earth at CO2 wavelengths has also increased in line with predictions (ie. real, verifiable, empirical evidence that extra CO2 in the atmosphere has led to extra heat being trapped in it and reflected back to Earth).

      “Each time they make a claim it proves false” - um, no it doesn’t. The long term trends being predicted by the models have been remarkably accurate, in fact most changes are sitting along the upper changes predicted.

      “How’ that drought going Tim?”

      You are right, he was speaking outside his area. He also made a prediction about a specific event, whereas climate science deals in trends. For you to cherry-pick one case where a person speaking outside their area of expertise tried to predict a specific event does not disprove the underlying thesis that long-term change trends are occurring, and that humans pumping C)2 into the atmosphere is the key driver of this change.

    • Bertrand says:

      03:01am | 26/02/12

      @Andrew - “Bertrand, if your happy for the government to lose more jobs then it created inj the past year (the first time since the 90’s) then I guess thats your perognitive.”

      The unemployment rate rose 0.2% in this time. I’m sure most of us would prefer that it fell; however, are you simply going to ignore that we are in the middle of the biggest financial crisis since the depression? That’s the problem with you guys, you have no idea how bad things could actually have been. Have you travelled around America since 2008 and seen the poverty of huge swathes of its population? Have you seen the same in Europe? The fact that Australia has so far avoided recession and got through this with minimal job losses appears to be lost on you. If you speak to any objective outside observer they will invariably tell you how amazed they are at Australia’s current prosperity.

      “Its your happy to pretend the reserve bank interes rate of 4.25% is what matters when everyone is paying a real rate of 7.25-7.50% then again thats your perognitive.”

      Rates are lower now than they were under Howard. There has always been a gap between the RBA’s overnight cash rate and what is charged by the banks. This isn’t a new phenomenon, and, outside of reregulating the banking industry to the extent the government can dictate interest rates they charge (an incredibly socialist policy and one that neither party is at all interested in) what do you suggest should happen?

      The fact that so many people are so sensitive to interest rates is because as a nation, we are completely over-extended in terms of privately held debt. This is the policy area you should have issue with and it is a massive failing on behalf of successive governments that they have put in place policies that artificially inflate housing prices and force households to take on massive amounts debt in order to buy their own homes.

      “You quick to point out that oversea unemployment rates are 8%, 20% etc but conviently forget to mention that interest rates in the same places are 0-2 % (mostly less then 1%).”

      Do you actually understand what is meant by the term ‘target rate’? Extremely low rates such as those that sit below 1% are totally undesirable and evidence of a failing economy. They leave absolutely no room for easing of interest rates to stimulate further growth and work against those who have money invested in savings. Our official interest rate is smack bang on target.

      “You also fail to mention why unemployment rates overseas are so high, maybe it has something to do with wasting Billions on dollars, many of these dollars on ‘green’ schemes which dont work”

      No, these countries are in the crapper because of failed policies from the extreme left and extreme right of the economic spectrum. America, Ireland and Spain are feeling the failure of overly deregulated markets that saw investment banks make irresponsible decisions and basically bankrupt themselves so they had to be bailed out by taxpayers. Places like Greece had far too generous of a social welfare system, which was not supported by adequate tax to fund it. Both major political parties in Australia have avoided making these same mistakes, through their centrist approach to economic policy.

      @john - that quote you gave isn’t from me, but let me respond anyway. “unemployment figures are not real’

      The method used to determine unemployment is the same now as it was under Howard. They are very similar to the methods being used in other countries. The fact remains our unemployment figures stand out as some of the best in the developed world, and have been surprisingly solid throughout the GFC.

      People like you were probably the first to complain about the government stimulus spending, even though it was this spending that helped create the economic conditions that kept employment steady. I always find it strange to hear someone whinge about the stimulus spending in one breath and then whinge about unemployment and low growth in the next breath.

      Seriously people. Why are so many of you unable to have rationale conversations about these things? It would be nice if people actually looked at and understood the evidence before going on about what a terrible economic situation this country is in. It bares little to no resemblance to a reality in which Australia’s economy stands heads and shoulders above most developed nations.

      You are every bit as bad as the Howard haters a decade back who screamed incoherently about how awful Howard was, despite the fact that he presided over an unparalleled period of growth in this country in which the real wealth of pretty much all Australians rose substantially.

      People on both sides of the political aisle approach policy debates with a predetermined conclusion, and no amount of evidence to the contrary will challenge their views. What a strange way to reach a conclusion about a topic.

    • Paul says:

      07:16am | 26/02/12

      We have gone from a well-run and stable country, to a South Pacific Island nation with a cargo cult mentality.
      The army will move in next.

    • Bertrand says:

      08:14am | 26/02/12

      and from @Paul we have another totally irrational statement, and the second on this thread that is at the least insinuating that a military coup in Australia is a desirable outcome.

    • andye says:

      09:12am | 26/02/12

      @Bertrand - Your comments are insightful, backed up with reasoning based on evidence, and extremely well written.

      Are you sure you are in the right place? ;P

    • john says:

      11:55am | 26/02/12

      @Bertrand “The method used to determine unemployment is the same now as it was under Howard.”

      Wow bertrand you must work for the Labor party!!  The definition only serves the government of the day regardless which side. Its well known Howard changed the definition, and labor is benefiting too. But hey, if your chosen party wants to live a very significant unethical definition, then there are severe consequences. Proper policy cannot be forged.  The masses suffer so the politicians benefit. Its not a fair balance.

      As i stated before - Unemployment figures are not real, that if you work one hour a week you are not classed as unemployed.

      If you believe that working 1 hour a week is classed as employed - if you REALLY believe that is JUST and RIGHT then I can’t help you. We stand to differ.


      Then you go on with “People like you were probably the first to complain about the government stimulus spending,”

      OK if you think that $900 cash splash is responsible spending, or other wasteful spending is appropriate then your in a very small minority.

      No-one is arguing about the action of some sort of stimulus itself, the bulk of the complaints even from the LNP focuses the complaint on “wasteful” spending. No one is arguing whether a stimulus was required or not. blind freddy can see it was required at the time.

      Lets for a moment begin to think, metaphorically speaking its all water under the bridge, there’s no arguing now that taxes will need to increase to keep funding the untruths,  and the wreckage that is to come from increasing taxation levels. Provided china’s soft landing at the moment doesn’t turn into a crash. Whilst manufacturing and the financial sector head for a crash landing.

      We all can see the retail sector is cactus without having GST online for goods under $1,000. & GST on imported goods.

      We can all see the tourism industry & exporters are cactus with the high Aussie dollar.

      Labor is still mulling over its multi-speed economy and doing very little about it, The rescource rent tax was watered down and just paid lip service. & the carbon tax was a policy to “rob peter to pay paul” totally usless.  Meanwhile MP’s guaranteed their own economy voting themselves generous pay increases thank you very much.

      I’m predicting a train wreck regardless who is in government for the rest of this decade, and its only a matter of who will have the best spin.

      Its only a matter of time ~2 years at the most before this country with its USELESS spending starts to bring in austerity measures to manage it debt, or boost taxes.

      You may keep believing there is a mining boom that it will save us, not sure how, considering the industry only employs the population that’s about the same as Townsville, and most of the profits land overseas.
      Just like the MYER float…daylight robbery, the tax office is still chasing them!

      Its the great lie built up since deregulation during the Hawke Keating era, that was mastered by the Howard/Costello Era, and now just starting to unravel with the Rudd/Gillard/Swan era. Abbott must be insane if he wants this shit sandwich so badly he would sell his arse for it. Weird.

      We were told we would be better of with privatisation- we are not.
      We were told GST would be better in lieu of other taxes being abolished- this did not happen.
      We were told that mining will benefit everyone - this is not true.
      We were told that globalisation will benefit Australia-this is not true.

      I could go on but you get the drift.

    • Bertrand says:

      05:17am | 25/02/12

      Interesting reading, although one must wonder why the author of this, if he has now decided to release this reflection, is unwilling to put his name to it?

      My money is on Tanner, who would be the major cabinet figure no longer on the scene and who has already expressed his distaste at the current media cycle and its effects on policy. Rudd’s apparent focus on the ‘Today Tonight’ angle fits pretty well into those previous criticisms.

      Of course, you would think that the best way to have dealt with these issues would have been for caucus or at least cabinet to put on a united front and confront Rudd about them as soon as they became evident.

      Instead it appears that everyone kept silent and stewed about it until launching a surprise attack on him. By its very nature, this was an act that immediately put the public offside. It would seem that Labor has serious issues understanding that, whatever the motivations, their public infighting is unacceptable to the majority of the public who wants their government to be focussed on governing not petty internal bickering.

      It also ignores the fact that whatever Rudd’s weaknesses, the factional system in the Labor Party, in which a few heavyweights exercise considerable control, has led to a party that is inherently unstable. The NSW experience made this completely obvious to any onlooker.

    • Michael Sarc'sm says:

      07:25am | 25/02/12

      That would be an obscure cadet journo by the name of Laurie Oakes. He writes well. Maybe we’ll see more of his work as he develops.

    • TimB says:

      07:44am | 25/02/12

      Yup. Has to be Tanner. I don’t know who else it could be. Although interrestingly he was a Rudd supporter during the 2010 coup

      But my reading of Tanner is that he ended up being fed up with the whole lot of them, hence his resignation atthe 2010 election.

    • Bertrand says:

      09:52am | 25/02/12

      @TimB : yeah I thought about that (him apparently being a Rude supporter)  after I posted.
      Maybe a senior public servant, since retired? That might explain the anonymity too.

      @Michael : not sure what you are getting at. I was wondering why the source Palestinian was quoting has been kept anonymous. Most others who have come out to attack Rudd have been more than willing to put their name to it.

    • AdamC says:

      10:03am | 25/02/12

      Good calls, Bertrand. The Australian public cannot help but wonder why, if Rudd’s management style was so bad, his inner circle waited to be swept along by outer Ministers and backbenchers when they knifed him in 2010. 

      TimB, one of the many excellent articles in the Australian today on this topic mentions that Tanner found it difficult to balance his young family’s needs with the demands of the ‘kitchen cabinet’. Funny how the Laborites constantly bitch about the Oz while still seemingly giving it all the best inside information on Labor’s scuzzy internal machinations!

    • Bertrand says:

      01:29pm | 25/02/12

      Palestinian???

      What the hell was my phone’s auto-correct thinking there.

      It should say ‘Oakes’

      Until I saved her name into my phone, it kept trying to change Gillard’s name to Dullard. I thought that was amusing.

    • Mark says:

      04:52pm | 25/02/12

      @Bertrand

      You’ve done your dough. The author’s name is James Button.

    • Where? says:

      05:23am | 25/02/12

      If only we’d all voted for Howard in 2007, we’d have gotten a competent Government. Where does Labor find these people?

    • Apathy Rules says:

      07:35am | 25/02/12

      What a great idea…why even bother having elections? Get rid of the Senate and fill the lower house with only LNP members and everything would be hunky-dory.

    • Anon says:

      07:38am | 25/02/12

      Its because of Howard that everything in Australia cost a ridiculous amount. He practically sold all utilities to private companies Saying, “oh look i have boosted money earned in this country.” Now all of Australia’s citizens struggles at the hard of utilities as it is so god damn expensive. Not to mention Howard is a racist.

    • Nathan says:

      07:39am | 25/02/12

      Even the LNP voters i know said it was time for Howard to go. I think you are forgetting his last term when he lost the plot. I seriously wonder what his legacy will be, people can claim the economic aspect but he was never challenged there.

      Labor will be out and you will have your wish soon enough

    • Adam says:

      07:44am | 25/02/12

      People voted against Howard because they felt it was “time for a change” they obviously never gave it any thought that we were all doing remarkably well, our economy was strong, we had record low unemployment, we were economically sound and debt free and we had billions of surplus cash sitting in our kitty. But no, that was not good enough for all those Labor voting goons. So all I can say now is to all you Labor voters;  There you got your change, you enjoying it?

    • Not here? says:

      08:58am | 25/02/12

      So you think Howard would have gotten competent all of a sudden?

      By 2007 he had run out of our stuff to sell.
      How could he continue his middle class welfare in the midst of the GFC?
      How could the nation thrive when the infrastructure was neglected?

      Howard wasn’t competent. He just sold the family jewels and reigned through boom times. Anyone could do that.

    • Tony says:

      09:07am | 25/02/12

      How true! We pay a heavy price for the decisions of just a handful of so called ‘swinging voters’. I wonder how many have the courage to consider the consequences of their decision?

    • Mack says:

      09:37am | 25/02/12

      @Anon - he ‘sold all utilities to private companies’ to pay back the $90billion DEBT that your hero, Paul Keating, left us. God knows how long we will be paying Julia’s $200+billion off.  And state Labor governments don’t mind selling public assets to private enterprise either eg. NSW state Labor sold off NSW lotteries for a pittance, our power companies as well, for a pittance, QLDs Anna Bligh sold QRail when she promised not to. Etc, etc, etc. pull your out of your arse - there’s no daylight there….

    • alx says:

      09:51am | 25/02/12

      I am a Liberal and it WAS time for a change.  Howard lost his way in the later years and betrayed core Liberal values by increasing the size of government and buying votes through ever increasing middle class welfare. His treatment of Asylum seekers was in some cases plain mean - I mean keeping a person in detention for 5 years for arriving illegally is cruel. This is not a Liberal value - it is a Labor western Sydney value, appealing to bogan xenophiles.

    • Mickey T says:

      09:58am | 25/02/12

      @ Adam - Everything you said was prior to a little thing called the GFC…what would the LNP have done differently to save us from a recession if they had not lost government?

      We currently have a strong economy, low unemployment, low interest rates, low inflation and we are the envy of major economies the world over.

      The idea of a surplus is to help for a rainy day, well guess what? It rained, in fact it poured, the world went into a financial crises, the likes we haven’t seen since the great depression, remember, the LNP agreed with the ALP on a stimulus package to avoid recession therefore I ask you again…what would the LNP have done differently?

      Considering the mining boom and record receipts that Costello and Howard resided over, I would argue that the surplus left by them was a piss in the ocean, compared to what it should have been. I’m sick and tired of hearing how they paid off ALP debt, when in reality; they created a middle class welfare society, the likes that we have never before seen. More money was wasted on looking after “Howard’s battlers” to win votes, far more than that what the ALP have ever wasted.

      Education went backwards under Howard, the latest reports on education confirm this, capital expenditure on infrastructure was non-existent, research and development was put out to pasture, all the while, Costello was busy selling off the farm and saying “look how much money we have” when in fact, our country was going backwards at a rapid rate.

      I’ve no doubt who the goons were, that’s why the people voted them out of office, they gave it plenty of though, enough was enough.

    • John L. ex 3rar. says:

      10:00am | 25/02/12

      If Howard had of handed the reins to Costello before the 2007 election i doubt that we would be going through this bullshit.

    • Fred says:

      10:09am | 25/02/12

      Howard is the reason why people squeal over tiny interest rate rises and falls because we have so much private debt, more than our GDP at one point something trillion.

      Yet you Liberal idiots constantly bang on about our $200bn government debt.

      It’s made society so rigid, brittle and precarious and put a normal life out of reach for young people unless they are willing to go into debt up to the eyeballs.

      Before Howard house prices were around 3-5 times wages, now they are close to 10 times and has turned us into an angry, self absorbed society.

    • gnasher says:

      10:10am | 25/02/12

      Hey Not here? Anna Blight couldn’t.

    • Vivian says:

      10:24am | 25/02/12

      It is a good point.

      You would think after Latham they would have had a good hard look at themselves and decided to serve the nation instead of a tiny minority of Union officials and elite progressives.

      Then they gave us Rudd. Now they give us Gillard.

      What is their solution to that double debacle?

      A showdown between Gillard and Rudd.

      They do not deserve to lead the nation. At least they have a pathetic reason to keep the charade alive. The independents should be forever damned for keeping this farce alive. I cannot wait to see the end of all of them.

      Not one shred of policy difference between either leader and they will wring their hands in a months time and wonder why it is all going so bad.

      I can’t wait to see Hartcher and Riley spin this lot let alone Oakes.

      What a shameful period for Australia. We have a lady in our office recently arrived from Scotland. She is apolitical and is aghast that politicians actually act like this. Yes it is anecdotal but it gave me pause for thought. She has zero skin in the game and is already turned off either Rudd or Gillard and the rest of that party. Amazing

    • RAL says:

      11:40am | 25/02/12

      Howard would’ve won if Nick Minchin and co hadn’t decided during the height of Howard’s popularity, that it was time for Costello to take over, though none of us wanted him. From then on no matter what happened, Howard and the Libs wer dead in the water.
      Minchin should have let the natural process take place during the next term and Costello would’ve had some month’s in the sun.
      Labor didn’t learn and did the same with Rudd, only far more brutally with no regard to the electorate.

    • zed says:

      11:48am | 25/02/12

      Good call, and to think we had a second chance to end the madness and didn’t take it. Have to laugh at those that think this current government with it’s currrent meltdown and broken promises regarding everything from carbon tax to gaming is worthy of even contemplating again. Madness absolute madness, why don’t you guys really go out on a limb - try to resurrect the republican argument and propose Rob Oakeshot as president and Bob Brown as his Vice, that would be beautiful just beautiful , and scarily probably not much worse than Gillard, Rudd, and Swan!!!!!

    • Keith Hammersmith says:

      12:14pm | 25/02/12

      @Not Here, by “anyone could do that” do you mean anyone like the QLD Labor party, selling of major assets to try end reduce its overwhelming debt?
      Hows that going for them?  About as well as its going for federal labor,  soon to be over, just that with QLD labor it will be over in a few weeks.

    • Nathan says:

      12:55pm | 25/02/12

      And why do you think Howard had to sell everything? Why do you think every Liberal gov around the county has to do this?? Have you ever stopped to think why this might be the case? Labor’s strategy for gov is to run up huge debt and when the money runs out find new ways to tax us. Run out of money….Hmmm lets tax the air. Ever counted up just how much this Labor gov has spent since 2007?? Our kids are going to pay for this bunch of clowns for years to come.

    • Laura says:

      01:43pm | 25/02/12

      Well said Mickey T.

    • Joe says:

      02:51pm | 25/02/12

      @alx,

      That person who stayed in detention for 5 years was there voluntarily, he failed his refugee application, he had no right to come to Australia and was free to go home at anytime.

      Howard shutdown the flow of Asylum Seekers via illegal boats to do anything else would have resulted in the Open Borders debacle that we have seen unfold under Labor.

    • Felix says:

      04:17pm | 25/02/12

      Howard did a lot of good but he wasn’t perfect and if he had handed over to Costello we really wouldn’t be in the Labor mess. The Kevin 07 PR stunt was just that. Labor politicians are not the brightest bunch and them running things at a Federal level is like asking a TAFE graducate to be a PhD thesis supervisor. Crash and burn in the worse way possible. The ALP need to clean up their own house and recruit real talent if it ever wasn’t another chance at the Federal level.

    • Andrew says:

      05:51pm | 25/02/12

      Mickey T, you made a mistake, what you meant to say is that education suffered throughout the Howard years because of all the states were controlled by labor governments, after all Education is the responsibility of the state government not the federal government.

    • Mickey T says:

      10:45pm | 25/02/12

      @ Andrew - What a great excuse from Howard, say that education is a state issue and therefore it’s not his problem.

      At least we now have a Prime Minister who fully understands the importance of education and is working with the states to bring education up to a standard that far outweighs Howard’s apathetic approach to such.

      A clever country is an educated country.

    • Glenn says:

      10:47am | 27/02/12

      People like me voted Howard out (ok mistake!) because of the dockside affair, Children overboard, Reith (remember the phone-card for example?) etc etc etc etc and probably most of all the blind following of Bush into an illegal war.

    • cheap white trash says:

      05:24am | 25/02/12

      “a reflection in all seriousness once the period of madness was over”

      Now that would have to be the biggest understatement of all time.
      The only way this madness will be over is when someone with a set of balls,from the Government or Independents pulls the plug on this pathetic incompetent bunch of fools and goes back to the people.

      Then and only then will this charade end.

    • Tom Sawyer says:

      07:29am | 25/02/12

      Where oh where are the three stooges, who held up the running of Australia as much for brokering a deal as to get our attention only to result in a pathetic announcement where Oakshott et al. had their 15 mins of fame.  If they are so concerned with the good of Australia and Australians,and surely this has once again become dysfunctional now and whether it be either contender, the our three independents should have enough guts to bring it back to the people….Election now for Australia!!

    • John says:

      12:02pm | 25/02/12

      Why would the independents push for another election? The independents don’t want to lose the influence they’ve been given over this facade of a government.  When it comes to it they will also support Kev.  A quote for future reference “we lost our way with the important issue of pokie reform.  This needs to be revisited to ensure that we get the best outcomes for all of Australians”. The perfect storm that brought Australia under the control of the Real 4 will hopefully never happen again for as long as I’m a registered voter.  Bring back Turnbull!!!! Or Hockey… give us a real alternative.  If you’re a liberal voter call up your local member and tell them who you want to lead the Liberal party - nice idea Kev.

    • Geez... says:

      07:48pm | 25/02/12

      @ John
      Here is the resident ‘brain dead’ John throwing his .00000000000001 cents worth again.
      ‘Why would the independents push for another election? The independents don’t want to lose the influence they’ve been given over this facade of a government.’
      I rest my case….sane people!!!

    • Geez... says:

      08:02pm | 25/02/12

      I have always wondered why parents would name a child Joy before they were convinced that their child was actually a ‘joy’

    • nihonin says:

      05:31am | 25/02/12

      Rudd is in trouble if his much loved and once favourite media conduit has come out against him with this ‘leaked’ story, eh Laurie.

    • Eterio says:

      05:50am | 25/02/12

      St kevin07 just wants to settle an issue of Juliar Brutus the backstabbing issue of the faceless men and the three stooges supported by judas slipper that ruin the fairdinkum australian labor party

    • joy says:

      05:57am | 25/02/12

      Good on Kevin Rudd for not taking briefing notes,  who wants to hear a scripted speech,  thats why I like Kevin he speaks from the heart, and while your at it dig some dirt on the other hopeless pollies we have in Australia, I stopped reading your article early in the piece,  Just a mud sling at Kevin Rudd.

    • oi says:

      07:35am | 25/02/12

      speaks from the heart? You have got to be kidding. He can’t get a sentance out without wrapping it in three layers of bullshit. We can start with that cringe-worthy “fair shake of the sauce bottle” and work our way through ..

    • L. says:

      07:39am | 25/02/12

      “Good on Kevin Rudd for not taking briefing notes,  who wants to hear a scripted speech,  thats why I like Kevin he speaks from the hear”

      Yeah… why would you want to study up on the topic of a meeting before making multi billion dollar policy decisions that effect every Australian..??

      Speak from the “heart” hey Joy?...Because base emotions over facts have never steared anyone wrong, eh..??

    • Nathan says:

      07:44am | 25/02/12

      @Joy
      Well how can you form an opinion if you are not even willing to listen to the other side of the story? If you didn’t read why comment.

      How many people do you know that is disliked by most people they work with but they are still a good bloke.

      Talking from the heart achieves nothing, the man is two faced and never to be trusted. If he wins i will vote Abbott no questions asked. The guy has a personal agenda and that is all.

      Mind you if your a christian or from queensland its not to much of an issue they generally can see past that.

    • Freeman says:

      07:46am | 25/02/12

      “Speaks from the heart”??
      He will tell you whatever you want to hear.

    • marley says:

      07:49am | 25/02/12

      The point of briefing notes is to provide the reader with the basics of a situation.  They provide background, highlight key issues, provide possible alternative approaches.  They are not “scripted speeches.” Three minutes reading a briefing note saves half an hour of having someone explain it to you.  Not reading briefing notes is like making a comment on the internet on a subject you know nothing about without at least checking Wiki first.

    • David says:

      07:51am | 25/02/12

      It’s funny how so many people cling to the idea that Kev is a wonderful man of the people.  This article is entirely consistent with everything ever written about Rudd and his management style. 
      Choice between Rudd, Gillard and Abbott.  Sounds like Hobson to me….

    • Gregg says:

      08:13am | 25/02/12

      Oh get real Joy for you do not run a government from the heart even though you need your heart in it to do well.
      Laurie is referring to briefing notes prepared for a PM ahead of cabinet meetings for christs sake, of meetings that would be discussing many important issues re legislation and other matters and a PM not only needs to be informed but up to speed with key factors just as a manager of any business needs to be for a business to do well.

    • Aussie says:

      09:08am | 25/02/12

      What the????
      Rudd cannot put two sentences together without it written for him.
      Watching him read out his scripts and badly at that , brings back terrible memories of him as leader.
      Mind you I can’t stand the socialist ranga either, so out of this Labor implosion we will hopefully get an election and a Coalition Prime Minister that can take control of our borders and scrap the ‘tax on the air we breath’

    • Tony says:

      09:11am | 25/02/12

      “who wants to hear a scripted speech”? But hold on, we are talking about Cabinet meetings here! The most important decision making forums of government and you want to hear Kevin ‘speaking from the heart’?

      Oh dear. Now we know how Australia got into this mess!

    • Wauker says:

      09:28am | 25/02/12

      OMG @Nathan, can you please brush up on your education please!  The only thing Gillard has going for her is the fact that so many Australians, her included, are illiterate.

      “Mind you if your (you’re) a christian (Christian) or from queensland (Queensland) its not to (too) much of an issue (;)they generally can see past (pass) that.

    • Mahhrat says:

      05:57am | 25/02/12

      And, of course, it comes out now.

      Sorry, Laurie, but I don’t buy it.  If Kevin is such an impossible man to work for, then how did he rise to such unwarranted levels of power in the first place?

      There are only two options I can currently consider:

      First, he is not any of the things they charge him with; rather, he is simply very hard working and expects no less from the others that would suckle on the government teat (that is, he’s the only one of the sorry lot of them that’s actually prepared to earn his damn keep), or

      Second, he is everything they charge him with, in which case they should all be sacked for the gross negligence of letting him gain that much power in the first place.

      Remember, a bully can only be a bully while the greater authority of governance refuses to enforce behavioural boundaries.

    • L. says:

      07:42am | 25/02/12

      “Sorry, Laurie, but I don’t buy it.  If Kevin is such an impossible man to work for, then how did he rise to such unwarranted levels of power in the first place?”

      Easy… Celebrity. The media fawned over him.

    • Nathan says:

      07:48am | 25/02/12

      Someone can an effective campaigner whilst being an ineffective Prime Minister. He had never been tested in that roll, once he was he was found wanting.

      If he is such a good bloke why do most people who have anything to do with him even in the private sector hate the guy?

      There is a diffrence between hard working and expecting others to do so and being a knob he was clearly the latter

    • TimB says:

      07:51am | 25/02/12

      “Second, he is everything they charge him with, in which case they should all be sacked for the gross negligence of letting him gain that much power in the first place.”

      I’m going to go with that one. They wanted someone who could beat John Howard. Beazley was a perennial failure, and Kevin Rudd had a huge profile with a significant section of the public thanks to his Sunrise appearances.

      As the campaign continued, he played the populist game (which far too many voters fell for). He translated that into an election win and carried that momentum throughout his first few years in government. That’s the ONLY reason his party didn’t call him on his style- He was popular and thus kept them in power.

      The second his popularity started to slide, they figured they had no reason left to keep him, hence the knifing.

    • marley says:

      07:52am | 25/02/12

      @Mahrat - remember, this is a Party that made Mark Latham its leader.  They like bullies.  Or their system promotes them.

      And I have no trouble at all believing Rudd behaved like that.  I’ve known a few civil servants who were exactly the same - engaging in process in order to avoid decisions;  fixated on what the higher-ups wanted (in a civil servant’s case, the Minister;  in Rudd’s case, the electorate) rather than on what was the right decision to make; and vindictive as hell.

    • Freeman says:

      07:53am | 25/02/12

      I wish the media would dig up some of the videos of ministers who in 2010, when rudd was dumped, came out in praise of his primeministership and who are dumping on him now. I can’t beleive they are allowed to get away with this massive inconsistancy.

    • snuff says:

      08:11am | 25/02/12

      He rose to power you numbskull because people voted him in, before he became prime minister he was just a politician that managed to talk himself up to his colleagues, he had never had to do anything to get to that place before the election.

    • Gregg says:

      08:19am | 25/02/12

      @Mahhrat
      Is it all too simple for you?
      Being in opposition is a very different matter to running the government.
      There is no doubt that Kevin himself could have policy ideas and listen to others when in the opposition, there being little needed to be done other than get the ideas out for public consumption, the abolition of work choices needing no selling as union diehards opposed it and that was a key plank on which Labor took power.
      Labor if you recall had been through a number of leaders who all failed to provide the better public image they wanted and so here was ” I’m Kevin and I’m here to help “.

    • Luke says:

      08:28am | 25/02/12

      Well yes, Mahhrat, your second option is spot on.  Remember this is the same ALP that thought it would be a good idea for Mark Latham to take the reigns of this country.  Lucky for the ALP many Australians are inherently stupid and will vote for them (or swing a protest vote to the GREENS) regardless of their gross incompetence.

      K-Rudd still thinks the NBN is the bomb, yet if you ask the average Australian how their life will improve as a direct result of this infrastructure I think they would struggle to find an answer.  Are the theory’s of remote medical NBN use (much of what will use a wireless combo anyway) worth $36 billion of taxpayer dollars?

      On a personal level, to get a reduced quota to what I currently have (500GB down to 300GB) will actually cost me double what I am currently paying ($49.95 currently, $99.95 with NBN.  And that will actually be a slower connection, if I want the Platinum speed it will cost me $139.95.

      Now I’m sure most Australians have that extra $600 each year in their pockets that they can’t wait to get rid of it, but the thought of that doesn’t really excite me, on a personal level, I would rather my $600.

    • Eric says:

      08:32am | 25/02/12

      couldn’t agree more! Epic comment!

    • Reality Girl says:

      08:55am | 25/02/12

      this is so spot on, you are so right, if he expected them to do some work, good on him and if he was a bully, then how the hell did they let him get in that position in the first place and where was anyone with the guts to stand up to him, i too, have worked for a kevin (who could sometimes be over demanding, it must be the name), however, all i had to do was tell him in no uncertain terms that he was expecting too much on any given day and he would quite readily back off when it was being shown that he was being counter productive

    • James says:

      09:06am | 25/02/12

      It’s the second, which also explains Latham. More important to be in power than to deliver good government.

    • Jane says:

      09:45am | 25/02/12

      You are correct. It astounds. We have on Monday a leadership challenge where a possible psychopath and traitor, who has sabotaged his own party, may win the highest office of government !.

      Prior to becoming leader to begin with they would have./should have known about his serious character flaws yet due to his high Tv profile on Sunrise backed him for their own benefit. Then finding all these flaws were impossible to deal with, removed him from the role but then rewarded with him with another high profile position??? Why? Now it appears he has been taking revenge by designing a de-stabalising campaign and being the traitor of the saga and YET he still remains a member of the Labor Party, there is no police investigation. Nothing !!

      Why??? Maybe expelling him could trigger an election?

      They cannot seriously accuse him of what they have and still have him be in a position where he can secure the role of Pm again.

      National Interest must come first so he must go if guilty of all that has been said about him, and if that leads to an election so be it.  Or they stop the personal attacks because they cannot seriously be that bad if they allow the remote possibility he could be PM again.

      Also why did the press facilitate his sabotage?

      Very serious situtation. All f them thinking of themselves, not the nation and I was a huge fan of Julias, but now I going to the Greens.

    • Liv says:

      10:17am | 25/02/12

      Yes, I totally agree. It’s also interesting that Laurie left out the first section of this article which said (quote):

      “I worked for the Rudd government for just over a year in 2009 and early 2010, including seven months as one of Kevin Rudd’s speechwriters. I only met him four times in that period so I don’t know him well. I know Julia Gillard even less well. But I know many people who have worked closely with both of them, and I base the comments that follow on their experience, plus my own.”

      His own experience? He just said he only met Rudd FOUR times! As for the secondhand comments of these nameless “others”,  they’re doing a good job of leading Labor to defeat at the next election!

      And I’m tired of hearing that he was so dysfunctional leader Gillard just had to step in. If he was so terrible then why appoint him as the Foreign Minister and why did they not speak up at the time? If he was weak and a “psycho” according to Swan and Crean, how was he capable of doing such a “wonderful job” as Foreign Minister (Gillard’s own words yesterday!).

      And isn’t it so convenient to come now with all this information. Personally I think it’s a little late to be telling the Australian people the “truth” after 2 years; it smacks of deceit.

    • Mack says:

      01:54pm | 25/02/12

      @Jane -’ All of them thinking of themselves, not the nation and I was a huge fan of Julias, but now I going to the Greens.’

      It’s because of the dumbarses who voted for the Greens (read Communists) that we are in this situation, you dumbarse.

    • me my mo says:

      03:50pm | 25/02/12

      @ Mahhrat , what Mr Oakes is conjuring in the above article isn’t anything new.  WIthin a few months of Mr Rudd being in office, these reports started coming out in the political sections of the papers. Unfortunately, as someone earlier mentioned, the media fawned over him in his first year and these stories were often tucked away. When the media finally started turning on him, these stories became more common.

    • Jane says:

      05:54pm | 25/02/12

      @Mack, How do you reckon? If you voted Labor then you wanted a price on carbon, Greens slow it down a bit is all but cheaper than Rudds. and cheaper than Abbotts plan. Greens did not cause anything, how incredibly ignorant to even suggest it. They ruined Rudds parade maybe in the previous term.

    • GK says:

      05:59am | 25/02/12

      Bottom line here is the ALP are not fighting for the best interests of Australia but for the best interests of the ALP in keeping their jobs.

    • thatmosis says:

      07:58am | 25/02/12

      Couldnt agree more. The Australian people and Australia dont matter as long as these losers keep the noses in the public trough. If there was any justice in the world they would call an election for the public to sort out who they want to run this country, not the faceless men and Union blowins.
        People are saying that the Independants should now back Abbott but that will never happen because as soon as they do he would call an election and they would be out on theor collective arses. We are being held captive now by a Party whose only thoughts are to stay in power at whatever cost to the rest of us, a party who is tearing itself apart, similar to Nero fiddling whist Rome burns.

    • Tony of Poorakistan says:

      08:10am | 25/02/12

      Note the comment in the article about not going ahead with something in the shadow of an election. They’d rather say one thing before the election in order to win it (’‘there will be no Carbon Tax’‘)  and then do the exact opposite when elected.

      Dishonourable and dishonest are not strong enough words to describe them. There is no way Gillard will win the elction; all the Libs have to do is trot out the list of her lies. But if they put KRudd in, he can blame all those blatant untruths on the redhead and, importantly, people will believe him.

    • Frank says:

      04:59pm | 25/02/12

      @Tony

      Exactly. Tony Abbott is gone.

    • RobertB says:

      06:12am | 25/02/12

      To put it simply they have left it to late , for me anyway to come out with all this assassination of Rudd ability and character. Anyone can say anything they want anonymously, without fear of reprisal. I just don’t believe them, Gillard has a history of lying to us, why would we believe her over Kevin Rudd. And as for the nasty brigade Swan and Crean and Roxon ect I would not believe a word they say. I am not alone in thinking like this.. Labor is toast at the next election..we have had enough of the lies ,bullshit and drama. If Rudd leads they have a chance, even though they are doing their best to sabotage it and Rudd.

    • Gerard says:

      08:58pm | 25/02/12

      “Gillard has a history of lying to us, why would we believe her over Kevin Rudd”

      Considering Rudd has spent the past 19 months insisting he had no intention of regaining the prime ministership, why should we believe him over Gillard? The fact is that neither of these megalomaniacs should ever have been allowed into a position of power.

    • Joan says:

      06:18am | 25/02/12

      Labor is telling us that they are incapable of governing . All the crazy talk with the backstabbing liar at helm just shows what a dysfunctionai nasty horrible lot this Gillard Labor mob is.  Election now independents - this is a rabble and not a stable government.

    • snoop says:

      06:36am | 25/02/12

      Go back to obscurity.You had your chanceKrudd
      You are a vainglorious media queen who doesnt play right with the party

    • Peter says:

      06:36am | 25/02/12

      When you make the same mistake you are a fool. Rudd the dud has been an international embarrassment as well as an incompetent PM, Foreign minister and public servant. Its amazing how many gullible fools are still being sucked into his lies and spin. When will the sheeple learn or at least wake up from this delusional spell they are under.

    • Sizzle Chest says:

      09:53am | 25/02/12

      But…but…he’s got lots of followers on Twitter !
      He goes on funny TV shows !!
      He’s friends with Cate Blanchette !!!
      He’s a celebrity !!!!
      He called the Chinese “rat-fuckers” !!!!!!!!! LOL
      That means he’s the best person, like, EVER, to be the Prime Minister of Australia !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Jordan says:

      06:41am | 25/02/12

      It’s incredible how people look back at Rudd with rose colored glasses. Rudd was toxic towards the end of his the time, his government was making blunders left right and center (pink bats, mining tax), people were sick of his monotonal drone and he would certainly have lost the election. Yet now all of a sudden all the problems were Gillards fault and Rudd was a hero of the people. Our political scene is just terrible at the moment, Abbott, Rudd, Gillard, Turnball? They are are inept or compromised one way or another.

    • Tim says:

      06:42am | 25/02/12

      If Kevin Rudd is described as having trouble making decisions then what does that make Julia Gillard? The Ultimate Flip-Flopper?

    • dinny says:

      06:46am | 25/02/12

      What were the figures of staff leaving in the first 6 months?
      Find them, ask them, and you will receive the same answer as above.

    • yunus says:

      06:49am | 25/02/12

      So Ruddy was a very hard working Prime Minister who sought a great level of accountability from his Ministers and his staffers. And the crime is?

    • antman says:

      10:54pm | 25/02/12

      Try reading the article before posting.

    • Rick Johnson says:

      06:50am | 25/02/12

      One has to wonder why all this was not detailed after he was stabbed in the back by Juliar? Seems the political propaganda machine is alive and well within the ALP ranks. Kevin admits his flaws, where Juliar appears to want to present herself as the perfect PM, and it is not working. The Labor Party need to get their act together, and put the ‘reformed’ Kevin in as PM, or they will most definitely be decimated at the next election. Juliar lacks credibility in the electorates, Kevin oozes bucket-loads of it. On Monday morning, Labor is not choosing a leader, they are choosing between winning and losing the next election.

    • W says:

      09:50am | 25/02/12

      Kevin Rudd was soundly beaten and humiliated in a leadership spill that in the end he did NOT contest. If it wasn’t bad enough that he had to be dumped, you think that his parliamentary colleagues should have also heaped on their reasons and made them public as well at the same time? You really are a sorry piece of work if you think so.

    • NLS says:

      10:43am | 25/02/12

      Regardless of who wins Monday, the Labor party are doomed at the next election.

    • Graham says:

      02:36pm | 25/02/12

      I remember hearing all this stuff when Kevin got rolled. It’s not new, it just wasn’t given as much publicity by high profile journalists.

    • Alan says:

      06:50am | 25/02/12

      What a sad little man. Living in his own world of importance.

    • Johnno says:

      06:52am | 25/02/12

      An insider (for want of a better word) I know said the says much the same thing. There was much happiness when he was rolled. Australians really need to look at Rudd in this light for this is what you’ll get again - just ask anyone on DFAT. Australians hate to see a ‘good bloke’ rolled, if only they’d realise that Rudd was not a good bloke nor even a good PM.

    • Denny Crane says:

      06:53am | 25/02/12

      Gee Laurie - thats not what you were saying when Kevin was in charge. You felt your time better spent trying to kick Tony Abbott. Your mate Mal Farr did the same. Are you going to ask Julia why, if Rudd was so dysfunctional and disloyal, did she appoint him foreign minister?

      Why indeed did the labor party elect him as leader given the personal attributes that they all now claim he had from day 1? Labor as a group of people have elected Mark latham, kevin Rudd and the sneaky schemeing Julia Gillard as their leader. Does this not say something about the appauling lack of judgement?

      The whole labor party with a few exceptions is filled with nasty venomous people whose only regard, it would seem, is for themselves. Yet Laurie has spent the better part of the last 3 years kicking Abbott. Strange.

      The vipers pit will soon get voted out. In QLD the certain defeat of udd will result in a crushing defeat of Bligh, and if Gillard remains leader then the same will happen to her. She has saved Rudd the tag of being the worst PM ever and her legacy will that of lies, deceiption, coverups and race riots. What a record.

      And while this selfish farce continues, a nations heart continues to bleed. But it doesnt matter to Gillard, Rudd or labor. They long ago forgot about the people.

    • Freeman says:

      09:52am | 25/02/12

      “Are you going to ask Julia why, if Rudd was so dysfunctional and disloyal, did she appoint him foreign minister?”

      Awesome question. I bet her answer would be worse than the one she gave on 4 corners.

    • Dann Da Mann says:

      06:54am | 25/02/12

      laurie,it may be true but in reality this government is dysfunctional and mainly due to a PM who is so devious,UNtrustworthy,Arrogant and Ignorant and has herself to blame for the downfall of the Labor party. The public just do not trust her or listen to her or believe her let alone this lot of MP’s who have been firing the bullets she has been making to put mr rudd down.. To me both are not born leaders but in preference out of the two kevin rudd is my choice.I would like very much to see him win and shaft the main instigator bill shorten plus swan and conroy . Also laurie nice guy that you appear to be I believe that you are one of the gillardsupporters which makes me lose respect for you as a True Journo. As kevin Rudd asks can genuinely TRUST ms gillard and the deafening reply is NO! Ask Mr Wilke and the commons sense public.

    • Angel says:

      06:58am | 25/02/12

      It’s interesting how many people seem to have forgotten how dysfunctional Rudd was in the end. Many of the above stories, we’ve heard before. How can we trust someone to lead the country who can’t find his own way inside a paper bag? But now, it’s all forgotten and lets put him back, he was a great PM, bla bla bla.
      Folks, you gotta wake up!

    • Ness says:

      06:59am | 25/02/12

      WOW! I knew it was bad but he was worse. But again it is not surprising. He seems to be bent backwards either to get what he wants and become the PM (Good luck with that. Independents won’t have him.) or destroy the Labor Party. How very sad! He needs a good therapist and good luck with that too.

    • Mathew says:

      07:00am | 25/02/12

      If this was truly the case, why was Rudd given the role of Foreign Affairs Minister??????? ..... Furthermore, why would anyone come out in defense of Rudd????? ...... This is all SPIN

    • Kate says:

      11:06am | 25/02/12

      Haven’t you heard of keep your friends close and your enemies closer, they gave him the Foreign Affairs ministry to hopefully keep him busy so that he didn’t have time or a position to stage a comeback.  From the backbench he could have done this much earlier.  It is all about playing the politics not about what is the right thing.

    • Mack says:

      11:16am | 25/02/12

      @Matthew - Gillard ended up with a minority government after blowing it at the 2010 election. Rudd demanded the position of Foreign Minister so that he could continue with his agenda of gaining a seat on the UN Security Council (which he now knows won’t happen) so Julia had no choice or she would have lost another seat in her slim minority government. He had her over a barrel, and he used it to his advantage.

    • Abby says:

      02:45pm | 25/02/12

      DAMN GOOD POST!

    • Andrew says:

      05:57pm | 25/02/12

      Why do you think? Are you really that Nieve. She had to keep him happy. If he resigned the government was gone.

    • Vigilant says:

      07:05am | 25/02/12

      We should be grateful to the ALP for showing us not to vote for them for the next decade.

    • Steve Cochrane says:

      07:06am | 25/02/12

      I think we should remove the government altogether and replace it with an online voting website where all interested parties across the nation can vote online relating to the issue of the day and those results will be instantly calculated.  You could make it as a blog so each question being asked to vote on could be accompanied by articles from advisers describing the pros and cons of each decision option.  I guess this is thinking 30 years ahead of its time but are we not sick of pollies to the point of wanting all of them gone?  This is one way we can get rid of the whole lot whilst actually improving democracy at the same time.  I am a web designer and will do the job for free lol just to see the whole lot unemployed.  Just think, every Australian could play an equal and active role in the running of the country if they so desired and the website itself would cost less than a government fuel card (just one of them lol) and probably rake in millions in advertising too.  Anyone who wants to take this idea and make it something bigger is welcome to do so.  Imagine having a real say in the day to day running of the country instead of leaving it in the hands of someone you have come to distrust and despise and I am not singling anyone out as I distrust and despise all politicians.  You could even go as far to have a tv channel to facilitate both the voting and results process which could be accompanied by articles related to present or future issues.  Like News24 perhaps we can call it Vote24.

    • Mouse says:

      09:44am | 25/02/12

      You know Steve, you might just be onto something there! lol Think of all the money we will save - salaries, fleet cars, phones, running government house, pollie perks, superannuation!!  OMG, we will be in surplus for ever   LOL   I love the Vote24 TV channel too. You are a Genius!  :o)

    • matt says:

      10:00am | 25/02/12

      i’ve had the exact same idea before! and i had a good laugh reading your post. We could even make an iphone app so people can vote on the run and have push notifications such as “You have 1 new taxation issue you need to address.”

      A better idea is to keep the current system but only allow individuals who are experts in their career to stand as cabinet ministers. I.e A chief experienced respected economist looking of the economy, not for example, Pauline Hanson from the fish and chip shop dealing with complex issues outside of the deep fryer. In that case the PM’s role would only be a spokes person for the collective.

    • Josh says:

      10:07am | 25/02/12

      I think that this is a great idea and would be a great way to get the population interested in what politics is really about, the policies, not the media cycle of who has the best one-line comebacks during interviews.

      Those that are interested can actively participate in leading the country to what they think will be a better place, and those that aren’t interested can leave it up to people that do care.

      I wonder how many people who criticise politicians and political parties actually know what their policies and reform plans are?

    • vladn says:

      11:54am | 25/02/12

      This is my thoughts exactly for a long time although not abolish government just abolish their power to implement major decisions without the public deciding. We have the technology let the people vote online for every major policy or decision. There is no way the carbon tax should have been passed without a referendum. Both gillard and rudd should not be PM but if i had to choose it would be rudd. Abbott is my choice and what i think this country needs, a return to old fashioned values but with todays technology.

    • Kat says:

      03:25pm | 25/02/12

      Good in theory, but governing is about someone maintaining the helicopter view of how all the pieces come together. There are too many interdependencies to vote on single issue lines.

      The other barrier to your idea is that there is a case that because so many Australians are politically apathetic except for the week they vote, and do the sums on whether they are financially better or worse, your system further concentrates power to special interests.

      I love the innovation, and outside the box thinking, but there are clear shortfalls in your present model. Keep working on it though, it is our only hope to reform the system, not just change the personality.

      Your model or version of it may be in use in Switzerland. Examine it more closely to see if you can iron out the kinks, and share your progress.

    • WarBaby says:

      06:36am | 27/02/12

      This has been the subject of many Sci-Fi stories and would have merit except that the majority of people (everywhere) are ill educated and so do not have the critical thinking skills to nut out the pros and cons.  Most people who get on talk-back radio or comment illiterately on blogs read only the red rag headlines and pontificate on those without understanding the whole issue.
      Australia has fewer people than some of the world’s largest cities which are under the management of ‘managers’.  Yes, they have CEOs responsible to boards and run them like companies, i.e. with an eye to the ‘bottom line’. 
      If I ruled the world there would be no State Governments, which are no longer needed now it does not take eight weeks to get mail between them and we are no longer governed directly from the other side of the world.  In the UK, the administration of things like health and education is the province of local governments acting directly under national regulation.  Yes, only two tiers of effective government folks - Westminster and County/Town Councils.  City/Town councils are funded by rates and do the important jobs like making sure the roads are paved and the traffic flows and the rubbish is collected.
      Be that as it may, the technology exists for us to now vote from the comfort of our smartphone.  We now do our census online, saving the country many millions.  Think of what we could save if we could have electronic voting.  Bring it on!

    • Oh please says:

      07:11am | 25/02/12

      Welcome to the real world, unnamed source. The boss you describe sounds like a pussycat compared to mine.

    • John of TWB says:

      07:17am | 25/02/12

      Laurie I think that the Gillard lead government has made a fatal error. They have not accounted for Kevin and his crew to sit on the cross benches.Gillard would then have to negotiate every bill with Kevin and the whole of Australia would see who is running this parliament

    • Ryan says:

      05:05pm | 25/02/12

      @John

      Nonsense. He wants to be PM.

    • Road Dogg says:

      07:21am | 25/02/12

      Rudd did his real job, he got rid of a stagnant and dysfunctional Howard government. Unfortunately he is a petty bureaucrat and not a good leader. So Labor messily dumped him and installed someone who’s actually a good leader but a piss poor communicator. Which leaves us with the worst possible scenario Tony Abbott as PM and a return to the worst aspects of the Howard years.

      Pork barrels and middle class welfare, never ending tax payer funded ads selling the government, inaction and spin. Promise everything and deliver nothing.

      The only hope of a government aimed at delivering for all Australians and not one that’s aimed solely on being perpetually elected is if Labor boot Gillard for Rudd forcing the LNP boot the ever unpopular and vision-less Abbott for Turnbull.

    • Joan says:

      09:24am | 25/02/12

      Road Do: Turnbull - Godwin Grech`s man now Oakeshott favourite-  Turnbull sure attracts clowns- and was part of Rudd ETS circus preCopenhagen - the world Carbon flop act. Turnbull knows how to pick them and the clowns know how to pick him.

    • Road Dogg says:

      03:16pm | 25/02/12

      @Joan

      It is amusing that your comment is full of nasty yet empty rhetoric, much in the style of Tony Abbott.

      How sad for the future of Australia that you and your ilk may get control of the country. Pork barrels, inaction and divisive rhetoric - neither you nor Abbott have anything to offer.

    • GeoffPh says:

      07:24am | 25/02/12

      Imagine, trying to rebuild a workable government when this reaches a conclusion with either Gillard, or Rudd at the helm. The only way forward is for a third, more neutral player to come through the centre.

    • Tony says:

      09:23am | 25/02/12

      “Rebuild a workable government”? By what Labor figures have been saying they have never had a workable government. Surely what you mean is ‘rebuilding the facade of a workable government’ and there is no way that is going to happen. While 30% seem prepared to vote Labor even if they torture babies in the streets there are enough that have finally seen them for what they are to ensure we will be free of them for the foreseeable future. Good riddance I say!

    • John says:

      07:27am | 25/02/12

      This Labor soap opera is akin to the customers of a company and shareholders loving the performance of a CEO (Rudd) yet the Board do not like working with him so they replace him with someone who does what they want, even if is to the detriment of the company and the shareholders and the customers who do not like the decision. The result? customers leave and shareholders will vote company board and CEO out at the next election and the new CEO has to pick up the pieces of what is left. This is what will happen to Labor. The public support Rudd by a large margin and the Labor caucus oppose Rudd by a large margin. This is a reflection of the complete disdain this party has for the electorate. They constantly go against the will of the people for their own self interest. Juliar is poison, she lies and the public do not want her. Insisting on keeping her and going against the will of the people so some politicians can hold onto power is no different morally to what is happening in Syria only without the violence.

    • Canberra policy dude says:

      07:29am | 25/02/12

      As a Canberran with some insider knowledge, I can say this is a fairly accurate portrayal, widely held, not just one person’s opinion. Whether you are agree with the policy positions or not (and largely I don’t), Gillard is running a functional government, and turning a mess into a solid track record of delivering some of the hardest reforms in the last 20 years, in the most difficult polical climate. Perhaps it is a shame she is too honorable and decent not to say this or leak this about Rudd at the time of the takeover,  (or the fact that she was begged by a majority of her colleagues to do the takeover) and has not descended into the ‘politics’ of the claims of back stabbing and lying. She is the politician we thought we were getting when we voted for Rudd. Please dont give us Rudd back.

    • Lincoln says:

      10:20am | 25/02/12

      Right On!!!

    • Momo says:

      10:49am | 25/02/12

      What are you talking about?
      The carbon tax was because Bob Brown had her by the balls!
      Health Care Reform is a joke!
      The issue of border protection is still an issue and a very ignored one.
      Gillard doesn’t understand how the mining tax and carbon tax have already started the ball rolling on unemployment and out sourcing.
      What economic reforms to ensure economic growth after the mining boom?
      The NBN has already blown out and they are ignoring the questions asked about it.
      Craig Thompson has her support? How low and desperate is she?
      Gillard is the worst PM this country has ever had and everybody with any sense knows it!

    • Mayday says:

      12:02pm | 25/02/12

      You need to get out more whilst taking off your rose coloured glasses.

    • Chebby says:

      02:42pm | 25/02/12

      What planet are you on Canberra policy dude ? Honourable and decent ? Do you know the meaning of these words ? I did not vote for Gillard, she did not attain majority votes and 3 men bought about her victory for their own devices (will we ever know the REAL truth behind the deals done ?)
      What a fiasco, when will the GG have the fortitude and stomach to intervene. This Government cannot govern, it is a sinking ship and the fiddlers still fiddle - it has met it’s Waterloo !

    • Ross says:

      07:30am | 25/02/12

      From all I’ve read this seems to sum up Rudd. An egomaniac with little leadership ability. Problem is after Rudd came Gillard. Another egomaniac who has prostituted her self politically to gain support of anyone who can help her maintain her position and self serving ambition. And both of them and all the Labor party still choose not to listen to the Australian people who are saying loud and clear WE WANT AN ELECTION. The longer they refuse to listen the poorer they will do at the next election.

    • jack says:

      04:29pm | 25/02/12

      @Ross

      Please refrain from speaking on my behalf.

    • BillK says:

      07:31am | 25/02/12

      The odour of this Government is unbelievable.  The lies and hypocrisy of this Government are limitless.

      Gillard is the most despised leader ever!

      After many years of voting, I am beginning to feel like we are on a treadmill watching consecutive Liberal governments clean up the mess of Labor governments both federally and state. Labor wastes our hard earned advantages and money.
       
      Just imagine how rich this country would be if there were no Labor Governments - ever!

    • Momo says:

      01:05pm | 25/02/12

      Gillard has done this country a lot of bad. She has problems if she can’t see why she is not liked or so unpopular. This country could be better but Gillard sold us out to the Greens! She has betrayed ALL Australians and the ALP. How could she knife a sitting PM of her own party. Did she not know this would not end well for the party? Gillard has NO values.

    • Martin says:

      05:09pm | 25/02/12

      @bill

      John Howard is the most despised leader ever.

    • BillK says:

      10:30pm | 16/03/12

      Funny that, most people I speak to like John Howard? Maybe he is only despised by the left Commies?

    • Wauker says:

      07:32am | 25/02/12

      What put me off is an idiot that begins his answer to a question with:

      “You know what, ...”

      It immediately puts himself above all else, like he is the only one with an answer.  I’m over hearing this.

    • Karen says:

      10:52am | 25/02/12

      Spot on.  I couldn’t agree more.

    • James says:

      07:33am | 25/02/12

      Question for the Labor caucus. Do you want at least a chance at winning the next election? Whats that you say? A resounding yes is it?
      Then get rid of Gillard.

    • shirley says:

      11:58am | 25/02/12

      bring back kiven rudd .Then get rid of Gillard

    • Gerard says:

      09:26pm | 25/02/12

      At the risk of sounding old fashioned, maybe the Labor caucus could consider what’s best for the country rather than what’s most likely to win them an election?

    • Greg of Gippsland says:

      07:38am | 25/02/12

      I agree with Where? says. Howard should not have been given the boot, but rather he needed a correction to get the message that people, whilst happy with his economic savvy, were unhappy with his methodology. Rudd should never have won the election. I now think, having read this article, that they were totally unprepared to win government. Rudd was all that Labor could offer, there was nothing else up their sleeve. No wonder he was so autocratic - he alone had pulled them across the line. They just didn’t have a clue.

    • DuffyMum says:

      07:39am | 25/02/12

      How can we honestly believe any “insider” when so many are in Julia’s pockets?  Julia can’t lie straight in bed so it only makes sense that anyone else in there thinks that it is perfectly acceptable to lie too, and that the voters will believe it. If Rudd was honestly so bad, why did Julia and co entrust such a high profile and highly influential position as the foreign ministry to such a man? Sounds completely fishy to me and to alot of others out there. Good on Rudd for refusing to put up with the immaturity, paranoia, bullying, aggression and laziness anymore. Enough is enough. We voters were monumentally insulted and disrespected when Julia and her gang of thieves stole the leadership from Rudd, and unless it’s handed back, they will catastrophically lose at the next election. That’s not a threat people - that’s reality.

    • L. says:

      10:15am | 25/02/12

      “If Rudd was honestly so bad, why did Julia and co entrust such a high profile and highly influential position as the foreign ministry to such a man?”

      As it said above…. because of his celebrity. It was Rudd’s popularity which essentially gave them their jobs.

      Wouldn’t you do the same if it meant a parlimentary pension for life..?? I know I probably would.

    • niki says:

      01:34pm | 25/02/12

      I think a lot of people have forgotten the last few months with Kevin. The poor stewardess who couldnt provide him with the food that was not even on the plane. The high staff resignation rate. The holier than thou attitude. I think he has been watching that series called “revenge” and he has been plotting it since he was overthrown.He was not a good strong leader and is two faced. The only reason he was made foreign minister was to hopefully quieten him and the public. Also he makes himself out to be this great foreign ambassador but he was only a third or so tier diplomat not some amazing ambassodor he woul like you ti think.

    • Don C says:

      07:47am | 26/02/12

      “If Rudd was honestly so bad, why did Julia and co entrust such a high profile and highly influential position as the foreign ministry to such a man?”

      Abbott has trotted out this little poison dart too. Sounds pretty cute as a sound bite from his mouth.

      The sad fact is that Rudd is not without talent or ability.

      As a PM, all his weakesses were on display and being tested, over the whole gamut of Govt business, every single day.  Despite the achievements of his Government, it was soon plain that as PM he personally simply wasn’t up to it. He still isn’t.

      So he lost the confidence of his Caucus - his Party. Gillard went and told him to his face. Still he dithered.

      When the 2010 spill motion came in the proper way, in the Party Room,  he had nil support. He didn’t nominate - he effectively resigned, as he says himself.

      But he is not without talent. And Foreigh Affairs is within his ability. In Opposition, he did well enough as a Shadow Minister.

      As Minister, he has one whole Department to help him, and Cabinet to guide him. So he can’t get too mired in dithering and tantrums, when there is a limited range of issues and priorities, being basically set for him by PM and Cabinet.

      Result: as Foreign Minister, Rudd has once again done reasonably well, and many analysts and commentators have said so.

      Alexander Downer comes to mind as the obvious parallel on the Liberal side. Utter dud as Leader in Opposition. Not without achievement as Foreign Minister chosen by Howard. Though Downer needed much, much closer minding “in the field”!

      In short, Abbott’s remark, Duffy Mum,  is nothing more than spin.
      A cheap shot that doesn’t stand up to even a passing check. Typical Abbott, in short.

    • Karen from Qld says:

      07:45am | 25/02/12

      Gillard said she showed courage implementing the carbon tax so why did she not show courage and tell the Australian people BEFORE the election. The only reason we have a carbon tax because she DID NOT have the courage to stand up to Bob Brown.

    • Momo says:

      10:57am | 25/02/12

      Bravo! Well said Karen! It shows how little respect she has for the Australian public. That statement was so insulting, does she thing we are that stupid?

    • Mitch says:

      01:06pm | 25/02/12

      Because Karen circumstances changed when we had a deadlocked election. It honestly seems idiotic to me everyone gets caught up on this Carbon Tax lie as if its the first time a politician has changed their mind. I want my politicians to be able to do what is best even when they know it will be unpopular. We elect them to govern based on their values and the information they have, not to respond instantly to the whims of the electorate on a decision by decision basis - do you want the PM to be purely ceremonial? Do you not think they have more information on hand than you or everyone else that claims to be so annoyed at the carbon tax but couldn’t tell you the first thing about how it works or why they disagree with it? To just push the buttons we point out to them?

      Courage is implementing policy that has been independently applauded around the world despite the fact you have a country full of idiots that think they get to dial in their answer to every policy decision despite the fact they can’t explain their objection beyond feeling that they were mislead.

      The fact is Karen they didn’t win the election on saying there would be no Carbon Tax, people have only cared since that news clip was dug up.

    • Abby says:

      02:50pm | 25/02/12

      Great Post Karen!
      I am in Gillards Ward (Lalor) and her popularity has fallen dramatically..

    • Mack says:

      03:41pm | 25/02/12

      @Mitch, you obviously haven’t read the comment from RBarron at 11:48am | 25/02/12 - a staunch Labor supporter and Unionist for over 20 years. He, like many FORMER Labor loyalists believe Julia Gillard lied about the carbon tax. When so many Labor supporters no longer believe or trust their own party, your pathetic excuse of ‘things changed’ is no consolation to them. Julia should have taken the carbon tax to an election if she really believed in it - but she didn’t, because she knew Labor would be thrashed. However, karma is about to hit….

      ’ RBarron says: 11:48am | 25/02/12
      I have been a Labor voter all my life since 18. I am 43 now.
      Right up until the last election when I voted for the Liberal Party for the 1st time. I was a Union Delegate for 10 years I will never voter Labor again with this dickhead and liar in charge and not listening to their voters and lying to us to steal our vote. All the people who voted for Labor or the Liberal Party at the last election voted for No Carbon Tax. End of story. Julia Gillard’s word is worth nothing.’

    • Joan says:

      05:13pm | 25/02/12

      @Karen

      Was the Prime Minister’s statement about carbon pricing really the only reason you voted for the ALP ?

    • Gerard says:

      09:53pm | 25/02/12

      Mitch, could you please make up your mind about what the excuse is for the carbon tax? First you said it was because of a “deadlocked election”. Then you claimed it was because Gillard had “more information on hand than you or everyone else”. Which is it? Was everyone else unaware of the election result? If she’d suddenly received new information on the benefits of new taxes after the election, then why has she never released this information to the public?

      The fact is she broke an election promise because Bob Brown told her to, against the wishes of the electorate.

    • Freddo says:

      07:46am | 25/02/12

      Will the Labor party put up a united front and back its leader if Abbott moves a no confidence motion after Monday?
      Has Shorten’s mother-in-law got a vested interest if she has to use her Reserve Powers?

    • El Jay of Canberra says:

      07:46am | 25/02/12

      No guts no glory Laurie and you are just perpetuating the musings of the anonymous author of this,  “a reflection in all seriousness once the period of madness was over”.
      Points of law come to mind such as ’ he who asserts must prove’ surely Rudd should be given the opportunity to defend himself or was the author scared of litigation. What prompted you to reveal these musings at this time?
      By the way I have never voted Labor and never will, but I do believe in a fair go.

    • Wauker says:

      07:46am | 25/02/12

      Tell me he has the following books on these people in his home library:

      Nicolae Ceausescu
      Kim Jong iL
      Josip Broz Tito

      All despots, that sought totalitarian rule.

    • Malcolm says:

      05:20pm | 25/02/12

      @wauker

      You forgot John Howard, although as Peter Costello wrote here, “The title of his book is designed to hide the obvious truth. This Lazarus is not rising. This Lazarus was terminated by the voters of Bennelong in 2007.”

    • snuff says:

      07:47am | 25/02/12

      Australians are not mature enough to see it for what it is, they need their Mr Popular, i hope he does get back in now..  i want to see the whole of Government to walk.. that would be worth watching.

    • ap says:

      07:47am | 25/02/12

      little man syndrome

    • Anthony says:

      07:50am | 25/02/12

      If you are sacked or let down by your boss you are not going to write something positive about them. For a top class political journalist I think this is fairly weak stuff. If the person who wrote this was really looking after the ALP it should have been released when Gillard took over.
      Infact this whole saga is bullshit, I cannot understand how people who make politics their career didn’t expose Rudds stupidity alot earlier.; i.e when he was stood down as PM

    • clazberri says:

      07:53am | 25/02/12

      I cannot wait to see the back of Kevin Rudd.

    • Smithy says:

      07:55am | 25/02/12

      Thanks for this article Laurie.  I now know what is wrong with Kevin.  He’s got Narcissistic Personality Disorder.  It’s very easy for people like this to win popularity contests with people that don’t know him personally or work with them.  But once they’re in a position of power they just become unreasonable and childish - stamping their feet when things don’t go their way.
      I have 3 NPD people in my family so I can recognise the characteristics written in this article.  You don’t want one as head of your country.

    • trisha says:

      11:43am | 25/02/12

      oooer!! i agree. from all reports this description fits exactly. kevin rude! i dont think labour has a chance ...at least they could be dingified and look like they are all on the same team…. pity we have a win/lose situation. not nice and definitly not dignified. just a pity the other option is tony abbott. does anyone else think a choice of two is not a choice at all??

    • Shi says:

      07:56am | 25/02/12

      Have any of you actually read the article.  The ONLY reason I would want Kevin747 to win on Monday is so I can vote the Labor party out at the next election and therefore show him once and for all he is NOT the saviour.  Egotistical, smarmy, ear waxing eating, cheesy beyond belief.  I cannot believe that anyone in Australia with an ounce of intelligence is taken in by this man.

    • Liv says:

      10:27am | 25/02/12

      Yes, I read the entire article, and Laurie’s interpretation leaves a lot to be desired, especially when he leaves so much of it out and just nit-picks the bits he wants to support his point-of-view!!

    • No boss is perfect says:

      03:54pm | 25/02/12

      Sorry, you will never be able to vote him out because the people will vote him in because they will fix what Julia government and hers supporters to the votes of the Australian a bring back Democracy, loyalty, respect and stability what Labor was not what he had become to day. Rudd is not perfect like any other bosses,  fathers,  co worker, or mates but you talk to them, help them and support them not knife them like Julia, the caucus and Facelees men did to suit their own selfish need. They did a huge mistake and they should learn from their mistake and change to be better and gain back the respect of the people, everyone need a second chance later when it will be their turn to lead not take it by force. You should all work as a team like in the real world and help these who struggle no humiliate them. Did you remember the Labor slogan to bosses ’ get everyone a fair go’?  It should apply to bosses or any Prime Minister too.
      Kevin is too loyal to the Labor party he need another fair go and work as a team with him if he does not change let the people judge him.
      The undecided had no chose to vote because the people had voted them to represent them and vote on monday to do what is right. You all need to be loyal to the people who had elected you and win a seat. Put your feeling aside and do not judge anyone.

    • Freeman says:

      07:58am | 25/02/12

      This article is an attempt to re-write history. It pretends that Ruddy was dumped for noble reasons and not because the ALP knew he would lose the 2010 election.

    • Brad says:

      07:58am | 25/02/12

      Hey L Oakes, why don’t you finally follow up on the real story. The one you started but never finished! At the National Press Club you put it to a then uncomfortable looking Ms Gillard that on the night of the leadership challenge there was actually a deal done with Rudd on a leadership handover - one that she reneged on that same night! We have now learnt that it was a WHOLE 10 minutes later she RENEGED… Now that would be ‘hard hitting’ journalism not this wishy washy witch hunt.

    • Mack says:

      07:59am | 25/02/12

      What a fantastic situation we are in! If Julia wins, we will be rid of Rudd and eventually her whole government will collapse because she is truly HATED and they will need to replace her, probably causing an election. If Rudd wins, we will be rid of the Green slimes, possibly the ‘independents’,  and a few Labor MPs who have threatened to resign if he wins - and we will probably need to go to an election.  Labor is doing itself over in front of the whole country.  Awesome!

    • blind_freddy says:

      08:03am | 25/02/12

      At least Kevin has given Julia a warning about a challenge giving her time to prepare her army. She never gave Kevin the same thing and took the leadership by stealth.

      Numbers or not he is doing this transparently which she has never done on anything

    • Mouse says:

      08:03am | 25/02/12

      It may have been created well before the Rudd comeback, but the timing of the release of this paper now couldn’t be more pleasing for gillard, could it?

      So they let a known, seriously flawed megalomaniac run for PM, then they “protected” his image for two and a half years before ousting him for becoming paralysed in the job, then they gave him the 2nd highest political position in the country? All the while fully supporting him and singing his praises to everyone.  Hmmm, yes that makes sense.

      It took them months to persuade him a referendum would fail but not that long to make him desert the greatest moral challenge of our lifetime, the ETS. Yes, I can see the rationale there too.

      Maybe they should have sacked all the people that let this person run a country then!  Obviously you weren’t aware of any of this Laurie because you used to be a big Kevin07 fan.

      I wonder if Labor thinks all this fiasco is endearing them to the voters. Do they think that by turning on him so publically it will improve gillard’s standing? I really think they need to get new PR people because the ones they’ve got at the moment just ain’t cutting the mustard! :o)

    • TJF says:

      08:05am | 25/02/12

      Geez amazing timing Laurie…

    • peter says:

      08:08am | 25/02/12

      So easy for some to come to the reality that has alway been in front of them - Rudd had the backing of Ch7 and particularly Kosh setup as a poster politician thats how come he got popular - he did not know policy he knew cheesy smiles and talked nothin, seems thats what breakfast time viewers wanted to hear. Nothing!
      The real fact here Labor with Rudd recklessly spent money that was for the future of this country, Labor has us all in major debt and ALL Labor are doing is LOOKING out for own INDIVIDUAL Selves - the GG should do what is right for this country and dissolve this Parliament for the interest of Australia.

    • Chris Bowman says:

      08:11am | 25/02/12

      Kevin might be more popular, but leadership of the government is not a popular vote; it is the choice of the people who need to work with him. The public will never really know what goes on behind closed doors.

    • William says:

      05:28pm | 25/02/12

      @Chris

      Yes, it is. Leadership of political parties is their decision, but we decide who forms Government.

    • Matthew says:

      08:14am | 25/02/12

      At the end of the day, it just shows what an amazing Leader of the Coalition Abbott is.
      The Labor Government tearing themselves apart and fighting to find someone who can beat Abbott and the Coalition.
      The Labor Government have spent their whole time trying to discredit, slander, nick name Tony Abbott and the Coalition. And yet they can’t even decide who should Lead their Government, STILL!
      What a sad bunch this Labor Government are.
      ALL THE WAY WITH TA !

    • Mark says:

      05:32pm | 25/02/12

      @Matthew

      They already did. Julia Gillard beat Abbott and the Coalition at the last election.

    • Gerard says:

      10:03pm | 25/02/12

      Good point. If they spent as much time and effort on policy development as they do on coming up with new nicknames for Abbott, they might just do a passable job.

    • Steve says:

      08:21am | 25/02/12

      The Rudd government could never have been functional because the libs had the power in the senate. Tony could block everything and he did for political gain.

    • Frank says:

      05:37pm | 25/02/12

      @Steve

      That’s a good point, and also shows why an Abbott government could never be functional while the Greens have power in the senate.

    • Claire says:

      08:21am | 25/02/12

      The Australian people only care about you fix the wrong you all knife an election Prime minister it a disgrace for democracy and you had ruin their trust in Julia, her supporters, the caucus, undecide Pm, and the faceless men. You are not listening to the people forgive, forget and give Rudd another chance not humiliate a second time. The people hate the wrong you did, the broken promises, your carbon Tax, your mining Tax, massive job losses around Australia, High cost of living and you keep lying to them that everything is okay because of mining boom while around Australia job and small business are grumbling in front of your own eyes. If Julia is doing so good why billion dollars debt and where are the money if health,education, road and transport are crumbling and need more fund when you keep telling us mining is doing good.
      If you are creating jobs only in government transport, health, school and other government agencies to cover your mess you are not doing good. Their is no balance between private and government jobs because it is private who make money and make profit and government collect money to make surplus. If private crumble the government will follow and wreck the economy around the Country. That mean Julia and her supporters are not doing good her supporters are in denial and lie to us right now about the state of the economy. The mining Tax alone does not fix the economy.

      America had more resources than us they are still in massive debt and their internal economy are in chaos. We have less resources and billion dollars debt mining boom can’t alone fix the economy we all have to do it and be less selfish and greedy. Stop being anti-bosses and whinge you all they are in crises you will wreck the economy by turning on them right now Australia are too costly to run including hire salaries and wages,maternity and paternity.

    • Realist says:

      10:03am | 25/02/12

      Your incoherent wall of text makes my head hurt.  Go back to school & pass English please.

    • Kate says:

      11:19am | 25/02/12

      America does not have more resources that us, they also have a larger population.  Comparing the USA to Australia is not correct.  Australia has placed a too high reliance on our mining and the government are using the mining boom to hide the real issues we have with all of our other sectors (finance, manufacturoring, small buisness, aviation).  If mining goes this country is in major trouble and the current government is not working to remedy this.  I am not sure either side of politics will do something and I know the greens won’t at all.  Everyone just wants to make hay whilst the sun shines and worry about it once it happens not try and fix it.  The unions hold the wages in the country to ransom and continually push up wages which pushes up the cost of living and also mean that we cannot compete on the world stage with our secondary industries.  We are the only first world country that is so reliant on our primary industries, there needs to be a balance.  Neither Rudd or Gillard will address this so it doesn’t really matter who wins on Monday, we are still screwed.

    • LJ Dots says:

      05:12pm | 25/02/12

      @Realist, what are you doing in the middle there? You’ve gone and ruined a perfectly good monologue

    • Ari says:

      08:21am | 25/02/12

      Since when was the requirement of being successful a ‘nice personality’? For example, everything that has been published about what Steve Jobs was like to work for suggests he was as guilty as everything Kevin Rudd is being criticised for. Kevin Rudd is clearly leaps and bounds more intelligent than Julia Gillard, and whilst he may need to work on his emotional/friendship skills a little more behind closed doors, I want the smartest man available running our country. A strong leader is supposed to take charge with a grand vision for our future. Neither Gillard or Abbott offer this.

    • Garry says:

      08:25am | 25/02/12

      Based on this article if it is true, why did they put him there in the first place ?, surely they would have known what he was like, and why is this just coming to light just now if he was so bad ? .......at least he did not blatantly lie to voters to get elected, and he was never part of a dysfunctional combination government. I think both Rudd and Gillard are future losers, but Australia will never trust Gillard again !

    • RobertB says:

      08:30am | 25/02/12

      Don’t buy it, we get nothing but lies from Gillard and her mob of mean ratbags. They will tell us anything to keep us quiet and get us onside. Rudd is their only hope, and then its slim with all the damage they have done.

    • Nicole says:

      08:31am | 25/02/12

      Is it just me who’s getting sick of people telling me what to think, who to vote for, what’s good for me?  I tell you something, I know what’s not good for me, and it’s being spoken to by journos like as if I’ve got a non-functioning, easily influenced brain.  I like Rudd, but I hate labour.  I know what my dilema is, thank you very much.

    • Bruce says:

      08:32am | 25/02/12

      Kevin Rudd is just a childish junior corporate game player. Not much more than that. Hopefully most of the public will not fall for it. Your party colleges know exactly what game your playing. His pscho game playing might have worked in 2007, it’s now old hat and predictable. Hey Kev, which game are we playing today ?

    • splash says:

      09:55am | 25/02/12

      Hey bruce,
      Should they have fallen for this one.
                There will be no carbon tax under the govt i lead.
      What do you think buddy boy.

    • Bruce says:

      02:38pm | 25/02/12

      Hey Splash. Good point. I must admit I took her word for it. Yep,  I fell for it, and worst of all, I believed it. Just call me ‘gull-a-bull” !!. NOT A SECOND TIME !

    • Joan says:

      05:40pm | 25/02/12

      @Bruce

      Was the Prime Minister’s statement on carbon pricing really the only reason you voted for the ALP ?

    • Sooth Sayer says:

      08:33am | 25/02/12

      I cannot recall one politician so willing to do absolutely anything, even destroy the party which put them there in the first place, to achieve their own personal priorities and right wrongs in their own mind. It is actually a health condition to be this blind-sighted by reality.

    • Jane says:

      11:29pm | 25/02/12

      We may have such a person as PM, one who puts himself ahead of anything. He as being sabotaging his own party and yet he has some support to be PM.

      I am flabbergasted as well.

      Tony Abbot will have a field day, may even be able to force an election. National security should cancel his eligibility to be PM if it is true.

    • Sydney says:

      08:34am | 25/02/12

      Oh yeah? So why did they make him Foreign Minister?
      I agree with Mahhrat, if this were all true, they should all be sacked!!!  And further, they should all be made accountable for such gross negligence. They were there to serve the Australian public, so if all these allegations about Kevin were true then all those people who were around him have committed a disservice to the people of Australia. They don’t deserve the loyalty or the votes of the people.

    • Andrew says:

      06:14pm | 25/02/12

      Again, how nieve are you people. They held a minority government, they had to keep him happy, or he may had resigned and they would be in power no more. Its prietty simple really. Besides from PM, Foreign Minister was Rudd pet job, they hoped rather nievly that it would make him happy and stop him causing trouble.

    • Gerard says:

      10:11pm | 25/02/12

      Sorry Andrew, Sydney is 100% correct. They should be doing what’s best for the country. All this “staying in power” bullshit shouldn’t come into it. They sacrificed the national interest to the ALP’s ambitions. For that they should be sacked.

    • Peter says:

      08:34am | 25/02/12

      Bottom line is both are not worthy to lead Australia. Both have been monumental failures for different reasons.
      Gillard was a key part of the Rudd governments failures and she continued those same failings into her own government. Too much waste, too many bad fiscal decisions. We are 200 billion in debt for what?

      The people had had enough of Howard and his ignorance of public opinion at the end but in all fairness to Howard his government was functional all it’s life.
      As he stated at the end. “Change for the sake of change is not always a good thing” How he must be laughing these days. What a mess.

    • Evelyn says:

      08:35am | 25/02/12

      The fact still remains the people voted the labor government in originally with a leader in Kevin Rudd!!
      He was shafted an as far as I am concerned, Ms Julia’s leadership is illegal and has been from the start!
      And as for the caucus saying that he is a bad leader, well maybe they should work in the real world for a change!
      And also isn’t the bad leader thing a thing for the PEOPLE to decide! Labor party have a good look at yourselves, if you loose the next election because you have not listened to the people it will be a cold day in hell before you ever get back the leadership!!!

    • David says:

      11:26am | 25/02/12

      Clearly you could do with learning a little about how the parliamentary system in Australia works. The prime minister is elected by the party in power, not the voters.

    • Mickey T says:

      12:48pm | 25/02/12

      @ Evelyn - “Ms Julia’s leadership is illegal”

      Unbelievable, have you conveniently forgotten about the 2010 election?

      Julia Gillard led the ALP to an historic victory against all odds, what’s illegal about our democratic Westminster system of government? Please tell.

      Just because you don’t like the result does not make it illegal.

    • therealjulia says:

      05:19pm | 25/02/12

      @mickey T, um what election were you watching, I am pretty sure Labour did NOT win an historic victory against all odds, that is why we have a hung parliament! the current lot are only there due to the wiles of Tony Abbots personality, with which the independents refused to deal with, as tony windsor said recently, Abbott could not have handled a hung parliament. So Julia got the job by default. the fact that they did not win, shows the stupidity of knifing Rudd, the one who really did take the labour party to an historic victory, remember that Howard himself lost his seat during that election! after over a decade in opposition, they ditch the only person capable of bringing them out the wildernes, the party should be on bended knee kissing his ring for it.

    • Mickey T says:

      11:52am | 26/02/12

      @ therealjulia - Julia Gillard IS our Prime Minister NOT Tony Abbott, therefore the ALP did win government, the fact that it is a hung parliament is totally irrelevant…which part of that statement do you fail to understand?

      FYI - More people voted for the ALP than they did for the LNP, therefore the people’s choice was respected…is that not democratic?

    • Guy Maxwell says:

      08:35am | 25/02/12

      Hard to understand and accept these ‘Reflections’ on the Rudd PM-ship, if it’s not a unanimously held view among the Ministers at the time.  KRudd has his supporters in Cabinet now , Sen Ferguson and Sen. Carr are 2 we know of at this point.  Are we to assume that they just didn’t see any of this side of events , or did they know about KR’s methods and didn’t not find them alarming and indicative of some ‘pathalogical’ problem in the man.?
      Even if Rudd had a glass jaw and was learning on the job about how to be everything to everybody and still get things done , in a time of the greatest Economic Meltdow since the 20’s , as a democratically elected leader , he should have been allowed to go full term and the voters make the call on his leadership at the ballot-box , not the face-less men and women of the factions.

    • Gregg says:

      08:37am | 25/02/12

      I would never have been an insider but in all honesty I never warmed to Kevin as the majority of Australians at one time or another have seemed to and I do not just understand that, his charisma or whatever being of a particular kind for me, always a veneer or a facade it seemed and it is no small wonder that insiders and his former colleagues are telling how it is of a Kevin 1, Kevin 2, Kevin 3 and which Kevolemon are we going to have.

      My first thoughts on Kevins performances started not so much with the word Sorry and not just that he did not own it personally, but the promises that went with it and yet he had a minister who in the preceding three months prior to parliament opening had not even been near an indigenous community.
      The emptiness of a sorry and promises without action were aired at the time by some indigenous people and how right have they been proven.

      Then there was Bali and how many actual PMs and Presidents were in attendance?, more grandstanding perhaps? and then his own 2020 and what a fiasco.

      I recall at the time some media shots of Kevin, very much seeming at a loss and then there were people like Lindsay Fox and Geoff Dixon was it, former Chief of Qantas captured in pics that had them somewhat bemused it would seem, perhaps pondering ” is this how the country gets run?, bit different to a business hey! “

      Moving on and the steps forward indigenous report had to be postponed so as to find out where they had been walking, Copenhagen became Not a Hope in Hell full of Rat F%@$ers and Kevin took up writing childrens books or something at one stage.
      That was one time of a few when Julia lapped up being supposedly PM and relished some photo shoots, all the time while Kevin was still in Australia and I do not know that this would have happened with other PMs as often.

      There were certainly enough things happening that coupled with reports of tantrums made me think we’ve got an odd ball as a PM and he may have the odd screw loose.

      I do not see that he has subjected himself to any brain keyhole surgery to correct that and neither would it seem many people who had the displeasure of being ministers under his lack of leadership.

    • Claire says:

      08:38am | 25/02/12

      The bullies always rebel when they don’t get their ways they bully their kids, their partner, their co workers, their boss,and use a lot of bullies and the silent one who still believe in bully to support them and turn into a mobs of bullies. These employees who have integrity, respect and are loyal know how to work around difficult bosses, and children. Only the rebel will knife, backstabbe whinge, steal and destroy everything in their path until they satisfy their need. It a trail of betray which will keep on going until they destry the Labor party for good to get their own satisfaction destroying Kevin. He is to good for them with the people and they hate him for this. Julia did say she knife him now is she lying too.

    • JO says:

      08:40am | 25/02/12

      The moment ALP back stab Rudd, is the day they will regret for the next decade as they have dug a big hole to climb back out. They should have left Rudd to run his term.If they lose the election after then so be it and Abbott will have a chance to show how bad/good a PM he can be. If he’s a bad PM, then that leaves the doors open for ALP to take it back from Abott rather than all the fiasco going on now which may have set the ALP back for 10 years of not being elected.

    • Chas says:

      08:46am | 25/02/12

      Excellent piece Laurie…
      It is in line with just about everything else I’ve seen published on Mr Rudd.
      It seems to me that the one thing his leadership lacked was an effective Chief of Staff (modeled on the US President’s Chief of Staff) who he would listen to.
      If by some chance he is re-installed as the PM, one wonders if he has learned from thses mistakes and can change his behavior to correct them.
      He certainly has the ability, but will he have the humility?

    • Steve says:

      08:47am | 25/02/12

      Everyone loves your kids boss ... Your kid comes home, says he’s really mean to me and i have resigned.  What do you do, say ” stop whining he’s a really nice guy,  he’ so popular with everyone so get back and work with him again”. 
      Let’s get real guys, some people are good at sales, others are leaders.  Kevin is not a leader who commands loyalty from followers.  1970’s management style I’d say.

    • Lyle Upson. says:

      08:50am | 25/02/12

      this is exactly the nasty experience administered by bureaucrats upon the public. So of course the bureaucracy would detest being on the receiving end of bitter nastiness. But I think this is really a cover up for lazy bureaucrats short on critical thinking and who freeze whenever expected to perform or come up with new work habits.

    • marley says:

      10:34am | 25/02/12

      Bureacrats didn’t dump Rudd.  ALP MPs and Senators did.

    • John Smith says:

      08:52am | 25/02/12

      Yes we all forget Julia is the real backstabber here - said no to policies - took krudd’s job and stated stuff like there will be no carbon tax under a government I lead and guess what we will have carbon “pricing”. Now I’m not going to debate whether we should have carbon pricing or not - the point is she lied. She lied to the independents about pokie reform - she is power hungry and will say anything to have the job - then her, swan and the faceless men do as they please. Proven liar and backstabber.  We know politicians bend and skew the truth but this is beyond a joke it is blatant and calculated deception on Julia’s behalf. She knew of the leadership spill of 2010 weeks before it happened as it has now been revealed - not just that morning as she first stated and had reported in the media at the time. LIAR - can’t be trusted

    • marley says:

      10:33am | 25/02/12

      Well, first, as some others have pointed out, it wasn’t “faceless men” who knifed Rudd.  It was the whole of caucus. 

      And if Julia knew for weeks that a spill was forthcoming, Rudd has been whiteanting Julia since before the last election, damn near two years ago.  So who’s the bigger backstabber?

    • Joe Public says:

      08:53am | 25/02/12

      This inside document clearly shows what many of us on the outside were pondering in our own minds. There is an uneasy combination of Macbeth and Richard the third.

    • Sean Edwards says:

      08:55am | 25/02/12

      I agree Kevin may have been unwilling to toe the line and let other people speak for him and dictate his opinion through ‘advice’, he may have been difficult but he was doing what a leader should do, make his own decisions irrespective of the advice. Politicians cannot be trusted, I think he feels the same way, for some reason he is the only one I actually think I should trust. All his detractors are the ones I do not trust because all they want to do is manipulate the public rather than serve our best interests and they can’t do that with him in power.

    • marley says:

      10:31am | 25/02/12

      The problem is that he did not in fact make decisions.  He deferred them again and again, always focussing on some new issue without ever making a decision on the last one.  ETS - too hard;  asylum seekers - talk up softening the line, then when that blows up, talk up hardening the line against smugglers, but don’t actually do anything about it.  All PR, no policy.

    • Right then says:

      11:18am | 25/02/12

      Oh dear. No wonder the country’s in a mess when people believe that the PM runs the country without “advice”. The Government runs the country. The PM is just the face of it.  Rudd is dangerous, make no mistake about that!

    • Gerard says:

      10:56pm | 25/02/12

      No politician should ever be trusted, no matter who they are. Rudd is a machiavellian psychopath; probably the least trustworthy person in Parliament.

    • johngo says:

      08:56am | 25/02/12

      Rudd, in all fairness to himself, and the Australian voters should not contest the labor leadership; he was a failure then as leader, as he will be now, and what we have at present, is not a lot better.
      It doesn’t matter who leads this ineffective party, nationally it is on the nose.
      Leave the current crop in place so at the next election the voters can consign them and their socialist ilk to the boonies for the next several generations.

    • Steve says:

      04:49pm | 25/02/12

      Johngo you seem to forget that Tony couldn’t even get his party to the starting line.  If he had managed to form his own minority govt, that would have been over many months ago. Minority govt needs a special leader to get things done, autocrats can’t succeed in such an environment.

    • Woodsie says:

      08:57am | 25/02/12

      Surely nobody in Australia, including the died in the wool Rudd supporters actually believe that Rudd was deposed for no good reason. He was deposed NOT by faceless men but by his own Caucus members who are well known and who’s faces are also well known.  He was deposed because they could not work with him. They are in most cases very good honest hard working men with Australia’s interests at heart and did not do it lightly. He was quite simply promoted beyond his ability to perform and needed to go. He acts like, sounds like and looks like a spoilt child to most astute Australians, would be better off out of politics and will be in his rightful place on the backbench. I am not a Labour voter but respect and understand the huge difficulties the majority of honest, hard working, decent, and dedicated Labour members have had to face from this man whilst trying to do their best (as they see it) for Australia. They deserve a break and a chance to get on with it without the wilful destruction of their Party from within.

    • Labor Blows says:

      10:21am | 25/02/12

      If Labor had good policies and were able to implement those policies we wouldn’t be wasting out time here right now.

    • Northfreoite says:

      10:46am | 25/02/12

      “They are in most cases very good honest hard working men…”  um,  and women.  The Labor party, what ever its downside, has the ability to allow women of personality and intellect to rise evidenced by the loud social media applause following Penny Wong’s contribution to recent Q&A.

      Julia is practised at standing on her own and facing the hard hits, willing to be unpopular, but is she capable of real strength.  Im wondering, If she had stood on her own feet during the Australia day fiasco, and given herself enough time to think , would she have had the nous to ask her security to invite in a leader from the tent embassy to find out what was driving the show down? Unless she already knew. And here is several parts to the problem- she has been so openly devious its impossible to answer this question and maybe she was bundled along on a wave of advisers.

      One things for sure, its easier to face down Kevin Rudd than it is to face down Tony Abbott.

    • Elpus says:

      11:13am | 25/02/12

      Not a labour voter ey ?

    • Jocka says:

      11:14am | 25/02/12

      Decent ? How naive can you possibly be ?

    • LM says:

      09:00am | 25/02/12

      I read it in the funny papers, must be true.

    • JH says:

      09:03am | 25/02/12

      Laurie,

      Have we got a compentent leader for either party? To use your description of the Welsh RareBit and Tony Abbott, they are a pair of Political Pygmies.
      May be Turnbull?

    • Mack says:

      01:13pm | 25/02/12

      Maybe Malcolm Turnbull should throw his hat in the Labor leadership ring - it looks like most people would vote for him! Haha. Suckers…....

    • Ex Govt Worker says:

      09:04am | 25/02/12

      Anyone who knows even a little or has worked remotely near K Rudd knows he is a sorry little man and evn worse than what is written about him.

    • Road Dogg says:

      10:42am | 25/02/12

      You don’t even have to have worked with Abbott to know he’s just as bad.

      Bring on Turnbull and some common sense in the political direction this country is heading.

    • Andrew says:

      06:18pm | 25/02/12

      So I asume Road Dogg you were one of the 30% that would had voted for Turnbull as PM when he was leader of the coalition.

    • Road Dogg says:

      03:39pm | 26/02/12

      Not at that time but I would happily vote for a Turnbull lead LNP now.

      I will never vote for any party lead by any one as divisive, negative and solely focused on power for the sake of power as Tony Abbott.

      He is taken us down a very dark road where the point is not good government but an Abbott government.

    • Pat McCann says:

      09:04am | 25/02/12

      To all those people, mostly men, who claim women stick by the female species, e.g. ,Gillard…you are wrong!  Women are not taken in by appearance or flirty manners and they can see the woman as she really is! Women are more tough about other women!  Those who support her do so because she has been a good mate to them and she is loyal to the PARTY.  She is more tolerant of errors than any man would be!  That does not make for a GOOD LEADER though, more honesty and admission of errors in past, like Timor and Malaysia would have given her a STRONGER LEADERSHIP!

    • Michal says:

      09:04am | 25/02/12

      This report just highlight just what a cesspool the ALP has become in recent times. As in any normal ‘people performance’ conversation, the only way this works is if feedback is given in the moment, or at least as close to as is possible to preserve the context in which it is given. Not 12 months later based on some one-sided, carefully written down story.

      I wonder what we would learn if we heard both sides of the story? Can we really just assume that what Laurie says is accurate? Is Laurie doing himself an injustice by even a remote association with something so one-sided?

      I say, that the more likely issue here is that Kevin Rudd is simply a had taskmaster (ad the ALP just doesn’t like it) who wants to get things done and, while has made mistakes in the past, is predominantly working for a better Australia.

      I think it’s about time the ALP took a really long, hard look at themselves and enbraced change, like we all have had to do from time to time.

    • GeorgeK says:

      09:06am | 25/02/12

      Laurie,
                Sorry but you miss a major point, the electorate hates Gillard, even to the point they would replace her with Rudd a failed leader. You see, he is seen as the lesser of 2 evils. He is an incompetent who got back stabbed, but she is a notorious liar, and the electorate hates people who treat them like morons..

    • Gerard says:

      11:05pm | 25/02/12

      “the electorate hates people who treat them like morons..”

      ...yet they seem to want Kevin Rudd back. I’d say the electorate has a good track record of rewarding people who treat them like morons.

    • NM says:

      09:07am | 25/02/12

      Come on Laurie, use your reporting skills to write something that isn’t yesterdays news and which we haven’t all heard before.  I don’t believe that is why they got rid of Rudd.  It had more to do with the power of the Mining sector making sure there was no real profit tax.

    • Mik says:

      09:07am | 25/02/12

      Is there a real leader out there,someone,anyone, prepared to turf these brawling children out?
      Or is it worse, two vindictive parents bent only on payback, not caring about the welfare of others? Lots of parental alienation going on as well.

    • MD says:

      09:09am | 25/02/12

      I guess the problem is that the ALP are still only worried about the next election and public opinion. If they actually got on with governing and dealing with the issues that concern the Australian people then they might just win an election. But that would mean a change of character for both Gillard and Rudd and tha isn’t happening.

    • Bruce says:

      05:46pm | 25/02/12

      @MD

      “They might just win an election” ?

      What are you on ? They won the last two !

    • Visitor says:

      09:13am | 25/02/12

      As an outsider looking in it is quite interesting to look and read what the Australian voters have to say about their government. One get the feeling that they are very laid back about what is going on. Something in the sense that it ‘doesn’t really affect me’. Coming from soon to be another African backet case, i need to urge you to be more vigilant when it comes to politics and the running of the country. Politicians in general are only their for their own benefit. My dad always told me the story of getting a ‘real’ job. Politics were not on that list.
      You as voter need to make your representative understand that he/she is responsible to you, the voter.  One strike and you’re out rule apply.

    • Benjamin the Donkey says:

      11:17pm | 25/02/12

      Yep, there’s no doubt about where Australia’s headed, but getting anything meaningful done about it is like trying to wake the dead. Oh well, at least I’ve got a foreign passport ready for when the house of cards comes tumbling down.

    • Michael Ellis says:

      09:14am | 25/02/12

      Every individual in the Cabinet had a voice and a vote. If they had issues, they should have used that opportunity. Why didn’t they?

    • Bemused says:

      09:14am | 25/02/12

      Laurie, let me guess. Was it Lindsay Tanner?
      “The author… operated in a key role and observed much of the discussion and decision making.” - Tanner was in the SBPC, the ‘kitchen cabinet’ of four top ministers comprising Rudd, Gillard, Swan and Tanner.
      “He”
      “The author is no longer on the scene” - Tanner left parliament in 2010.
      Or maybe Faulkner?

    • luke r says:

      09:16am | 25/02/12

      “...he would refuse to look at them in meetings and simply ignore anything they said ...”  Things rings so true…remember the rude, cold shoulder he gave Christina Kennealy?  JuLIAR will lose the election badly but a return to Rudd will destroy the party.

    • nick says:

      09:17am | 25/02/12

      why is this “a warning to the voters”...its not like any of them voted gillard in, or even have a choice if rudd comes back!!

    • Former ALP Member says:

      09:17am | 25/02/12

      I’m not sure that we need our PM to be a great administrator/bureaucrat/manager… they have a huge staff who ought to be able to fulfil these functions (and senior ministers who surely have the capacity to bring them in line? Senior Ministers are also leaders, aren’t they?). When we vote for our local members and for the parties they’re a part of, we vote for a team. If TEAM Rudd failed in 2007-2010, then that includes Swan and Gillard. Also, despite the formalities of our Westminster System, the reality of our election campaigns now is that they’re pretty Presidential… And in our Presidents, we want figureheads who are able to sell a story and a message. Rudd was good at this until about six months before the coup, then he lost it and should’ve been brought into line. Unfortunately, Gillard has never enjoyed peoples’ support and because of her beginnings in the PM’ship, never will. She should’ve had a fair run in her own right (and actually then probably would’ve been both a great negotiator/policy driver behind the scenes AND a good communicator with people, simply because people would’ve been willing to listen to her and trust her). You stuffed up, Sussex St and unpalatable though it is for you, restoring Rudd was the only way to make it even potentially right before 2013.
      And that’s so true what people say above about bullies etc. We don’t want to learn now how dreadful KRudd was as a boss-  senior ministers, we expect you to have been persuasive leaders too and to have brought him into line! You can’t explain away your lack of effectiveness then, nor the decision to make him minister of foreign affairs! To ordinary people, this all reflects badly on YOU rather than KRudd. It would’ve been fine to learn all of this, as is customary, once the man had retired from politics or perhaps was dead. It’s seriously damaging that you’re engaging in it so vociferously and viciously now. Unedifying, embarrassing and speaks volumes about yourselves.

    • Wauker says:

      09:19am | 25/02/12

      Its an interesting insight into the man.  What is incredible is that the media is still claiming that Rudd is 57% preferred with the people, (I wasn’t asked, never have in all my decades), however, the people are not voting!

      What really does matter when governing, or even running a backyard business or whatever, is how you are seen by those immediately under your management.  A good leader is someone who can muster everything from their employees.  We have all been in various positions in our lives where the “boss” is so great that you bend over backwards to show them your appreciation of his/her recognition of your input.  If they are arseholes, well, they get the bare minimum. 

      I do see what this is all about, even though I would rather the entire government thrown out.

    • yofussn says:

      09:24am | 25/02/12

      Who the bloody hell cares anymore,  how aboout blaming Howard for not moving on when required.
      , still reckon it wasn’t work choices that brought him & the liberals undone it was the rediculous idea to commit Australiua to the bloody Iraq war that left the bad taste in peoples minds, only to be proven after the fact it was indeed based on completley groundless claims of weapons of mass desruction.
      Further,  why has no country that aided & abetted such a shocka of a completeley unjustified war been investigated by a war crimes court as yet.
      The westerm world has a lot to yet answer about this. How are things going in Libya, not good no doubt, the west has to get right out of the rediculous self momenting idea that war is the answer to anything & start moving as soon as is humanly possible to sure up peace as the only answer in the quest for a humane compassionate place in which we all might feel good to be a part of..

    • Sizzle Chest says:

      03:41pm | 25/02/12

      Feel better now ?

    • Don C says:

      09:28am | 25/02/12

      I’m not in the Labor Party, and never worked for them. Just an ordinary voter.

      Button in The Age, an ex-staffer, says much the same thing.

      So that all sounds pretty right to me, as an ordinary voter with his ear to the ground.  It’s not news, seriously.

      I do have an active interest in current affairs and news, as do a number of my friends.

      Rudd’s mixture of appeal, talent and weakness was quite well known and quite widely discussed - well before 2010 - but not much in the media.

      It’s been more discussed since, in print too. And it is right to see it all out in the open, right now.

      The fact is, every Party faces the same problem and deals with it in pretty much the same way.

      The voters pick the Government. The majority Party picks its Leader -  and thus PM.

      In a multi-party democracy, it works OK, sometimes well, sometimes not well.  Examples on both sides of the good. And more so, of the bad.

      At the end of the day, every Party faces a choice in Leader, balancing talent, ability, and appeal. More dimensions to each, but in the end they have to make a judgement.

      Once they’ve made it, they have to make the best of it, warts and all, for as long as they can. Liberal or Labor, they all work the same way - focus on the plusses in public. Save the advice and criticism for the faction and party rooms, and hang on.

    • Don C says:

      09:29am | 25/02/12

      Why? Because they all want to get things done, for the country, as they see it. With a few notable exceptions, they know, most of them,  that they all have a range of ability from above average to below. They know that ambition or no, only the barest handful will ever sit in the Leader’s suite.

      But they do want to get things done and yes, they’d like to survive. So they try their best to play the team game.

      I’m certain that the Labor Cabinet and and others did their best to give Rudd support, to try to get him up to scratch. But in the end he overwhelmed himself, isolated in droning, verbal sludge and indecision.

      He resigned. Why? He won’t admit it, but he had NO Party Room support left at all. He’d frittered it all away.  As he had with far too many of the big policy issues and chances.

      He’ll do exactly the same again, given the chance. You can see it now, in his self-righteous and quite bald-faced hypocritical posturings.

      He had electoral appeal, on the surface. He and his Party got some big picture gestures up. And together they got the GFC dealt with neatly and well.

      But it wasn’t Rudd working solely alone. Surely only he still thinks that. Trying to do that made the big issues nigh-on unworkable - and many of you must have seen that. 

      Though the every-day machinery of Government still functioned well enough. On the every-day issues. Why? Because the Ministry and the Public Service worked their collective arses off, despite the dead weight of Kevinism around their necks.

      Not that they were able to sell the successes much, with KRudd pretty much the sole mouthpiece, speaking in incomprehensible geek babble and verbal sludge.

      Still, they they tried their damnedest, to the last. But the bigger issues kept piling up. The endless waiting and dithering got worse, not better.  So in the end it was no go.

      Loyal to their Party and the office of PM, they tried to make the best of it, even then.  Now that looks bad. Good intentions, bad result.

      Since then, the cutesy secretive drip feed of nasty leakery from the Kevinistas has made things look rather ugly. But on most fronts, and the economy in particular, the country is in actual fact doing well, as every independent bit of data and commentary shows.

      Why? Because Gillard in minority is a far better PM in action than Rudd was or can be. Thank Goodness. Let’s let her get on with the job, and judge her and the state of the country at the next election in 2013.

    • yofussn says:

      09:32am | 25/02/12

      Isn’t it time we moved on from this dysfunctional form of governance, in this day & age it is too much to be expected for one person to be in charge, we need to move to a system of team leaders so as to share the responsibilities to take all the pressure of one person at the top, do we have it in us to move on & create a new order of governance to lead the way in an increasingly complex globalised world.

    • NO NWO says:

      07:34pm | 25/02/12

      A ‘new world order’?

      NO THANKS

    • Judas says:

      09:32am | 25/02/12

      Frankly the fact that Kevin was supposedly difficult to work for and chaotic and Gillard is supposedly easy to work for and organised is really just about whether ministerial colleagues have a difficult work life or an easy work life. The debate / discussion / public airing of these issues is not about the electorate and people who vote and just reinforces how self interested, immature (in organisational management) and intent on clinging to their power at all costs most in this Labour government are. What an awful shame that these labour politicians and union heavy weights have destroyed (at least for the moment) an aspect of democracy and given Australian’s glimpses into what it must be like to live in regions where people do not have the freedom to vote and where dictators struggle, manipulate, lie and betray just to ensure their power is not eroded. I am embarrassed and ashamed to be an Australian - for the first time in my life. Shame on you Kevin Rudd, Shame on you Julia Gillard - you do not deserve to hold office.

    • Robert S McCormick says:

      09:32am | 25/02/12

      Today it matters not one scap whether the ALP have good policies or not.
      The People, remember us, Julia & Kevin? simply are not listening.
      Julai Gillard in the hearts & minds of the People is Toxic.
      Though the polls tell us that Kevin Rudd is preferred over Julia Gillard by an unbeatable margin that is all it is. The People prefer Rudd as PM
      They may prefer Rudd as PM over Tony Abbott.
      To be preferred over either Gillard or Abbott would not be particularly difficult.
      However, that does not mean the People would vote for the ALP at a Federal Election or, it seems, at any State or Teritory election.
      Thanks, in particular to Julia Gillard, but also in a lagre degree to Kevin Rudd the ALP is increasingly unelectable & will remain so until both they & all the vast majority of the current Front Bench are out of the way.
      How’s about Penny Wing,(Yes, she’d have to move from the Senate but that could be arranged) as Prime Minister & Tanya Plibersek as her Deputy. Now that would be a team to reckon with!

    • Josh in Canberra says:

      09:37am | 25/02/12

      The only political monkey I care about is the one that gives our country proper unlimited, unthrottled internet access at the same speed as Hong Kong.  As a businessman I fail to see how Australia can become the smart country when we hurt our businesses with unfair internet policies that don’t exist in other countries!!!

      Also I want to see Rudd finish up the organ donor reforms.  A member of my family is dying because of the arcane laws in this country regarding who can donate organs.

    • Dan says:

      03:55pm | 25/02/12

      Arcane ??. Check your dictionary

    • Sally says:

      09:41am | 25/02/12

      What it clearly comes down to is that both of them are crap leaders…......bring in the coalition, Please!

    • Kim says:

      05:51pm | 25/02/12

      @Sally

      Sure. All you have to do is win an election.

    • Davo says:

      09:47am | 25/02/12

      All this shows how obsessed the Gillard/Rudd Governments have/are with Tony Abbott.
      Still acting like their in Opposition.
      They have learnt nothing since winning from Howard.
      Amateurs who have no idea, all they do is talk about Abbott. And both Rudd and Gillard still can’t stop themselves doing it.
      I bet they wish they had Abbott on their team.
      Tony Abbott has this Government absolutely bamboozled.
      All the Dr No, mr negative rah rah rah stuff just reinforces how worried they are about Abbott. Rudd and Gillards press conference’s are all full of hate for Abbott, and hate for each other. hate hate hate. Lots of hate swirling around this Government. Crean,Swan etc the whole lot of them, haters.
      Well done Tones, your a legend.

    • Kev says:

      05:55pm | 25/02/12

      That’s because Tony Abbott is the best advertisement for an ALP Government, bar none.

    • sandra says:

      09:52am | 25/02/12

      I am now longing for one great journalist to have the guts to ask Mr krudd—what will you do about the Heiner affair if you become leader????  The look on Rudds face would show all that is shocking about him!!!!

    • klr says:

      08:01pm | 25/02/12

      I would love to see that happen too. There is another question - Have you been told that your bid for a UN seat has been rejected and this is why you are challenging for the PM Role again? Everything has been quiet lately on this issue.

    • Ivan E says:

      10:03am | 25/02/12

      There is a coup de grâce speeding towards Canberra like a runaway freight train.
      It’s called Truth, Justice, Honesty and Accountability.
      Labor and it’s leadership issues are irrelevant until it arrives and has been delivered, yet most people are blissfully unaware of this subtle behemoth on their doorstep.
      So no surprise to most then when a few unpredictable ironic twists are played out.

    • Marcus H says:

      10:06am | 25/02/12

      God what a schmozzle! A dysfunctional past, a disabled present, and a dismal future. Labor, Labor, Labor ........ why and how have you been hijacked by self-serving nincompoops and fools?

    • Doron Katz says:

      10:20am | 25/02/12

      ” Serious time was not spent resolving climate change policy, asylum seekers and the tax review because of “the PM’s obsession with health reform”... Who cares about F$*@$ climate change, health reform is real and practical. He is right, states can’t manage hospitals just like they couldnt with universities so it should be federal!

    • Anthony says:

      10:22am | 25/02/12

      I look back with nostalgia to the time between the last election and the formation of minority government, when Australia didn’t have a PM for some weeks, but still ran itself.  Perhaps there in that period lies the answer to our current situation.  A country can run without a PM.  What a grand experiment we could conduct.  It would be no different to the situation we are in, now!

    • A psychiatrist and former Rudd fan says:

      10:23am | 25/02/12

      Yes, i am no longer a Rudd fan. He is a talented man, who lacks the grace and insight to acknowledge his weaknesses and the strengths of others. A better man would have been more humble in defeat and taken on the fascinating role of foreign minister with good grace and energy and stayed out of the leadership debate.  it all just reeks of narcissistic rage on Kevin’s part rather than a genuine belief that he will be good for country and Australia doesn’t   a leader who is motivated in this way.

    • E.T. says:

      10:26am | 25/02/12

      Insider LO is getting old and on the out. A leader is only as good as his team. The pack of wolves had been working to knife Kevin Rudd not because of HIS personality, but THEIRS. Their personalities have been on displaced because they fear to lose their plumb jobs under Gillard. So vicious and uncivilised, and so unAustralian, but so Labour as we know it.

    • Chris says:

      10:27am | 25/02/12

      This WAS in the media when Rudd was in power. It was just that nobody paid much attention to it. So, whoever claims that this is part of an anti-Rudd campaign, is mistaken. The only reason this comes back now is because now people will read it.

      The whole farce probably will only go into the next round on Monday. Kevin will be defeated and then make some other emotional attempt of taking the toys of Julia. The funny thing is that none of this matters. The sandbox is full of kids that don’t actually know how to build a sand castle. anyway. So, give the toys to whoever wants them. They’ll only use them to throw dirt back and force, no matter if they are named Julia, Kevin, Tony or (choose anyone else here).

    • P. Darvio says:

      10:29am | 25/02/12

      Maybe KRudd was running the Government the same way TRein runs her Company…....?

    • BraveHeart says:

      10:35am | 25/02/12

      Just a slight correction to Kevin Rudd’s intention to “run and finish the job” ... he should run alright because he is definitely finished as far as we intelligent, clear thinking and discerning Australians are concerned. As for the hopelessly naive who are still sucked in by this “snake oil salesman” ... listen, God gave you two ends, one to think with and the other to sit on - you confuse the two to your own peril!!!

    • Sandy says:

      10:43am | 25/02/12

      Election NOW please!!
      The Government has lost control and is in total disarray. Neither of these incompetent leaders has the true confidence of the people or the market. The GG needs to dissolve the Govt and call an election. But alas, she is Bill Shorten’s Mother-in-Law…how convenient. Talk about compromise and deception.
      The role of the Governor General according to the official website is:

      However, there are some powers which the Governor-General may, in certain circumstances, exercise without – or contrary to – ministerial advice. These are known as the reserve powers. While the reserve powers are not codified as such, they are generally agreed to at least include:
      1. The power to appoint a Prime Minister if an election has resulted in a ‘hung parliament’;
      2. The power to dismiss a Prime Minister where he or she has lost the confidence of the Parliament;
      3. The power to dismiss a Prime Minister or Minister when he or she is acting unlawfully; and
      4. The power to refuse to dissolve the House of Representatives despite a request from the Prime Minister.

      In addition, the Governor-General has a supervisory role to see that the processes of the Federal Executive Council are conducted lawfully and regularly.

      Are you listening Quentin? Election NOW please.

    • P. Darvio says:

      01:12pm | 25/02/12

      None of the 4 points you list has in fact been broken or triggered - so what is your point referring to them?

    • marley says:

      01:35pm | 25/02/12

      @Sandy - the GG cannot dismiss the PM because Parliament is not “hung” in the sense of being deadlocked.  It’s a minority government, but one that has the “confidence of the House.”  Until the PM loses a confidence or supply vote, she has every right to be PM and the GG has none to intervene.

    • Really? says:

      01:36pm | 25/02/12

      incompetent leaders has the true confidence of the people or the market.

      Dosen’t even come close…a min requirement would be blocking supply…wont happen with Greens

    • Quentin says:

      01:57pm | 25/02/12

      “Are you listening Quentin?”

      What’s wrong diddums…Is it the wrong colour party for your liking?

      Bide your time and you can get to vote again in 2013.

    • Wayne says:

      02:01pm | 25/02/12

      I doubt whether the GG is even aware of these powers. She is only interested in feminism and cutting ribbons. Her main focus, of course, is desiding which hat she will wear today. Not to mention, ensuring young Billy has a job to go to on Monday.

    • Andrew says:

      06:29pm | 25/02/12

      Will you idiots calling for the GG to call an election get over it. Exactly were in the 4 points above does it say the GG has the right to dissolve this sitting government. She cant do it, dont you get it, she CANT do it unless there is a no confidence vote passed in parliament (read point 2 above). As for point 3, the government sucks but they have done nothing illegal. You really think the GG has that much power, that she can just snap her fingers when she likes and dissolve parliament. I hate this government as much as anyone but if really is monotous hearing losers, who dont have a clue say the GG needs to call an election.

    • Don C says:

      08:54am | 26/02/12

      It would be truly surprising if anyone with a genuine interest in our working democracy would honestly call on a non-elected official to “step in” and determine our Government and PM by their own sole command.

      Fortunately, our system is in fact democratic and doesn’t work that way.

      Let us all hope, from every Party, that it never can and never does.

    • Mr. Obvious says:

      10:45am | 25/02/12

      Great. That’s one observer’s view. Can we get a balance by finding a few other’s perspectives as well? Or is this all that gets submitted? Or perhaps a few forward-looking perspectives? Snippets from one previous opinion has small relevance to the events as they may unfold in the coming days, don’t you think? It’s obvious there’s a lot of emotional weight in the current events, and you don’t need three Galaxy polls to see how it’s trending…

    • Andy1 says:

      10:51am | 25/02/12

      Tony Abbott has them completely lost. It’s just too funny. All they can do is talk about and fight over Abbott hahahahah. Their press conferences are hilarious “I can beat Abbott,”” I’m the best choice to beat Abbott,” ” no I am.” and on on it goes. We have a Government fixated on Abbott….hilarious. 10/10 to Abbott !
      Thank you Dr No.

    • Frank says:

      06:00pm | 25/02/12

      @Andy

      Thank you indeed ! If it weren’t for Tony Abbott, we’d have a Coalition Government.

    • Andy says:

      11:02am | 25/02/12

      Who voted Julia in? The three independents. Never did she get voted in by the Australian public. Julia has lied too many times for most of us to believe anything she says.

    • holly says:

      01:02pm | 25/02/12

      Under the Westminster system of government an individual voter does not vote for the position of PM. We of course could move to become a republic and an elected President (a la the USA)

    • john says:

      01:03pm | 25/02/12

      @Andy “Who voted Julia in? The three independents.”

      Given the 3 independents are also conservative leaning, shouldn’t you blame the LNP for voting the ALP in by unintentional backfire? because they didn’t want an Abbott led government at the time?

    • Pandy says:

      04:24pm | 25/02/12

      @Andy

      Ummm. You’ve somehow overlooked the more than 6 million of us who also voted for the ALP.

    • Gerard says:

      11:37pm | 25/02/12

      Andy, I think you’ll find that she was voted in by the people of the Lalor electorate. As to who appointed her as prime minister, that would be the collective decision of the 150 members of the lower house- you know, the way every prime minister has been appointed?

    • Peter says:

      01:12pm | 26/02/12

      Really Pandy as many as 6 million Australains are really that stupid ?

    • Pandy says:

      03:19pm | 26/02/12

      Apparently, Peter, although fortunately they outnumber the really stupid ones who voted for the Coalition.

    • Chris says:

      11:04am | 25/02/12

      Laurie, the Government is not functional now because of the person running it-Gillard. She has no idea how samll business and the average person is struggling out there. She introduced an extra tax that the consumer will wear in the end. They all think that because the dollar is high that some how Australia is ‘sweet’.

    • snoopy's friend says:

      11:05am | 25/02/12

      No-one seems to remember that Tony Abbott actually got more votes than Gillard at the last election.  It was only the aspirant three who promised anything to give Gillard the now untenable position she is in.

    • Kat says:

      09:05pm | 25/02/12

      @ Don C, I think the OP is referring to the primary vote pre preference distribution, which I thought was accurate, ie that by volume, more votes were cast in favour of LNP, than Labour or any other party.
      The balance is skewed only once preferences were distributed to a 2PP lead for ALP.

    • Don C says:

      06:36am | 26/02/12

      The primary vote is neither here nor there. We do not run a first past the post presidentail ballot. Thank goodness.

      Seats are determined by the distribution of preferences - the Two Party Preferred count. It is that result that counts. End of.

      Playing about with the numbers in any other way simply gets us no where, for any Party,  in any election.

      As a general remark, to readers generally, one of the worrying things about political debate in this country is just how little understood are the checks and balances that let our Electoral, Parliamentary and Executive system work, even under extreme pressure. 

      We have a functioning democracy. The best way to nuture it, to protect it, is to take a little time to understand it better.

    • Martin says:

      09:18am | 26/02/12

      Sorry to say Don C you have skewed your response to suit your agenda.  Snoopy said “Abbott actually got more votes than Gillard” and the primary vote shows this to be true. Hence in the strictest terms he is correct and you are not

    • Don C says:

      11:39am | 26/02/12

      The boot is on the other foot.

      I don’t have an agenda.  The plain enacted actual fact is that we don’t decide seats - the basis of parliamentary majority -  by primary vote.

      We - our parliament -  decided long ago that first past the post/primary vote just wasn’t good enough.

      Two Party Preferred is how we decide seats and thus majority in Parliament. End of story.

    • Kat says:

      11:08pm | 28/02/12

      A bit of revisionism at work here. The point is that the 2PP was not what decided this parliament and who would form government. It was the patronage and self interest of four independent members and one green. The 2PP was irrelevant. Neither party of the two counted in the 2PP could form a majority.

      No one suggested that we run a FPP system, the OP said that more votes by number were cast for Abbott (when meaning coalition). That was the factual part of the OP which was open to be refuted. As we all know, only a small portion of Australians were able to directly cast a vote for one T Abbott, and they all live in his electorate.

      So in terms of the two contentions in the OP, five men were left to determine the governmen to be formed and Labor secured the vote of three of those five and only people in Tony Abbott electorate voted for him. These are the facts.

      It was widely speculated at the time if the two ( former National) Independents and Andrew Wilkie backed the coalition, they would find themselves off to an election at the earliest time of Abbott’s choosing. We should have no doubt that this played a significant role, and weighed heavily in the choice each made.

      Labor had a net loss of seats in 2010 and has implemented a policy which neither side took to the election as a basis for a mandate. They also removed a sitting PM who did have a mandate to deliver that policy and removed it from their platform before and during the election period. The Australian people, if they choose, have a right to be aggrieved by this and to claim the legitimacy of the government may be called into question on this basis. Indeed, Mr Wilkie may also have a second reason to feel aggrieved in respect of how his allegiance and the basis on which it was procured was breached. The difference is that Mr Wilkie may for the time until the next election actually exercise a vote in response to his betrayal each and every sitting day of the parliament. The rest of us must wait.

      It is not therefore unreasonable or unexpected to find people exercising their right to be heard in sites such as these, and it is for this reason that we must not let the rewriting of history to gloss over how we got here. It is only through knowing where history took us, that we can avoid repeating it.

      Anyone who claims the 2010 election or its result delivered a victory or mandate to the current government is not accepting facts. Having said that, elections reflect the will of the people so they are never wrong. This is a point which the government and the independents may have reinforced when our turn next comes to participate in an election.

      To those who ask for the chance to give the government clear air, that is your right, and the events of last week may well have created the opportunity. But I suspect that many swinging voters have just stopped listening and their interest will be hard to capture again until the sentence that is spoken, answers the clarion call, for an election.

      In the meantime, the spotlight needs to shine brightly on those men, three in particular who now keep the minority together, out of their own self interest. The voters in those electorates now have a chance to tell those men what they expect of a candidate who dares to declare themselves an Independent and espouse to us the virtues we can expect of that characterisation.

    • Don C says:

      07:26am | 29/02/12

      You have attempted to put words in my mouth.  Don’t.

      You make a baseless personal slur of “re-writing history”. 

      I reject it, utterly. 

      I stand by my posts,  which are made in good faith and as accurately as I can make them as an interested observer.

      The electorate delivered, by 2PP result, an evenly balanced number of main Party (Coalition, Labor) seats.  That is the recorded fact.

      The necessary corollary of referring to a primary vote count claim is that it represents First Past the Post. You can try and airbrush over it, but that is the fact of the matter.

      The two main parties were BOTH in the same position. Plain fact.

      In order to form a stable minority government with a stable working majority, BOTH parties had to negotiate for support from the Independents and Minor parties - whose members were, likewise, elected on the basis of their 2PP seat result. Both tried to do so. Recorded fact.

      BOTH main Parties (sic) carry responsibility for whatever level of agreement and compromise they were prepared to make - or not.

      An agreement that ANY Party in such a position is open to make, in order to endeavour to carry forward as best it can the policies it believes in good faith to be in the best interests of the people.

      The balance of power is between all the parties (sic) to the agreement. To try and misrepresent that as “five men” determining the result is simply reprehensible.

      I might add that “mandate” is one of the most deliberately and widely abused terms in any political discussion.

      Does anyone suppose that the elected members of the minor Parties for example, have no mandate at all? What nonsense.

      To suggest that any elected Party may not, cannot, take a different policy position post-election   - when circumstances necessitate it - is plainly nonsense. It’s not practical and it isn’t the case. The history of Australia is strewn with such changes.

      You can play word games. You can try to make up things about what I’ve said. You can mount a baseless personal slur, built up from those misrepresentations.  Your choice, but such tricks discredit you and your argument.

      You have not been posting in good faith.

      But then, I never thought you were, from the first.

    • Kat says:

      11:42am | 29/02/12

      @Don,

      If it was intended for me, your reference to my alleged slur is without foundation.

      Review the thread, it was you who sought to refute what the OP said without regarding the claims he made. My most recent indicates there were two errors of fact in the OP which were open to be denounced.

      You chose neither of them as the basis to reject the views of the OP.

      I am grateful for the insight many of your posts offer to actually represent factual information that many may not be aware of, or to assist others who are interested, as I have conceded in the past, but your most recent suggestion that mine was not in good faith, or not factual is unsustainable.

      Instead of playing the man yourself, play the ball on these facts which are in issue:
      Who of each party got more primary vote, Coalition or Labor? The option to answer is binary. This goes to what the OP actually said. Whether our system is FPP or 2PP is not in issue. I stipulate for the record that it is 2PP, to avoid further discussion.
      Did Labor gain seas in the last election?
      Did coalition gain seats in the last election?
      Did Labor have a Carbon Tax as part of their platform in the lead up to or during the election period?
      Can a person not resident in Tony Abbott’s electorate cast a legitimate vote for him?
      Did 3 out of 5 men with balance of power in HOR side with Labor, to determine a minority government with Labor.

      Each of above is yes/no or otherwise binary. An essay is not required.

      As to other matters that I gave opinion on in last posts, the democracy you defend offers me that freedom to declare such opinion. And it may be worth reflecting be that I did so without reference to you, but in general terms on the points of view either side of the debate might offer.

      Note in particular my point that elections are never wrong. The people delivered this parliament, a fact I am only too well aware of. They may choose to act differently when they next participate. Mr Wilkie may also choose to exact revenge for the breach of the commitment made to him. He may not. That’s what makes it opinion, it cannot yet be determined fact.

      Do you not believe in mandates? Then why do we ever have elections? If they are free to depart from those platforms without consequence.

      I await someone to jump in on the GST point here. Insert as appropriate. For clarity, I do not expect that person to be you Don, as I would be surprised if you did.

      On your final point that mine was a slur in bad faith on your posts, Rest assured, when I am attacking the credibility of your contribution, I will not be cowardly about it. I will not imply, I will contend clearly and by reference to reason.

      It is for these reasons that I wholly reject the contents of your last post and I trust this clarification assists you.

    • Don C says:

      02:22pm | 29/02/12

      I’m do not seek to be and am not assisted by any of your posts.

      Nor do you intend that, as the consistent pattern of misrepresenting my remarks and meaning shows.

      You credit is now exhausted. There is nothing further to be said, here or to any other post of yours.

    • Kat says:

      05:38pm | 29/02/12

      @Don,
      I have the same degree of confidence in your latest remarks that I do for the trustworthiness of the promises of the PM you ardently support.
      Once again, I extend my thanks for the reference material you have provided on bipartisan matters of fact, however, my graciousness in all other matters has now evaporated.

    • Martin says:

      11:14am | 25/02/12

      It is time for the independants to get serious and dump the ALP. We need an election, nothing surer.

      This present fiasco is all about the ALP best positioning itself to stay on as the government for another term. Australia simply cannot afford any more experimentation from the hands of people that have no idea of what they are doing.

      Laughably the ALP call their experimentation “Reform”? It is not reform for the good of the country, it is throwing money in any direction where they think there may be votes available.

      The selfishness , lies and spin has to stop and the independants have the power to bring this nonsense to an end immediately. Just do it for the sake of the nation, they know only too well that the ALP are a joke and deserve to be removed from office.

    • Jason says:

      11:18am | 25/02/12

      It speaks volumes that such an apparently incompetent and disorganised man is able to nearly destroy the ALP from behind closed doors.  Any organisation that can be practically taken down by a single individual is clearly weak, corruptable and should not be in power.

      Besides - the single driving force behind the ALP is always “the next election”.  How about some government please?

    • mrniceguy351 says:

      11:24am | 25/02/12

      A mate of mine was in the navy for years, and has a lot of mates from all the armed forces. Apparantly Rudds dummy spit about the food on the air force flight wasnt the first, just the first time it was reported. He always had a reputation for it with the RAAF.
      PS Why doesnt Wayne Swan have a crack? He presents well and he has the runs on the board as treasurer.

    • Stratti says:

      11:27am | 25/02/12

      I used to support Rudd but a thought occured to me. All the parliamentary party members are relatively intelligent people who are well versed in politics and the consequences in the electorate. It would not have been news to them that the electorate would bury them for deposing a sitting prime minister in such an ambush. With that in mind I realized the severity of the situation must have been extreme for the Labor parliamentarians to effectively fall on their swords collectively rather than maintain Rudd as the leader. Ponder that for a moment with some empathetic imaginings . Put partisanship aside and imagine your part of the government and your faced with deposing a leader who will likely cost you government and your seat or maintain him as the leader and spend the next two years under his regime. We know what they chose and that speaks volumes.

      Furthermore these accusations are being made in the public arena not behind parliamentary privilege and while these accusations MAY be protected under Defamation law this has not been tested which speaks volumes.

      Lastly we do not have a presidential system we vote for a party and then they have confidence in a leader. It is said that a government needs the consent of the people. Clearly this is not the case excepting election time. On the other hand you most certainly cannot govern without the consent of your governmental colleagues and one can conclude that it was arrogance or megolamania that allowed Rudd to forget this.

    • cdinoz says:

      11:30am | 25/02/12

      I have to agree 100% with the sentiments of this article.

      Having worked in one of Sydney’s 5 star hotels where Rudd made his base as an MP and then leader of the opposition, I was in the position to witness first hand the manner that this man operated.

      From the way he spoke to the hotel staff (a man who stays in a hotel 5 days a week, 40 weeks of the year you would expect him to at least be civil, or remember the names of the regular staff he dealt with…? Nope, not our Kevin),  to the manner in which he spoke to colleagues and his own staff was shocking enough.

      Most of the populace, if they saw him in operation, would never vote for him. He has less personable skills and attributes than Tony Abbott.

    • Louisa says:

      11:32am | 25/02/12

      I can’t wait for the election. Right now, these ALP idiots are giving the LNP golden sound-bite quotes for election ads. Those ads are going to be fantastic. Talk about foot-bullets. What a bunch of fools.

    • WJ says:

      11:35am | 25/02/12

      To Laurie: It annoys me that sources won’t - or can’t - be named. If the source was prepared to be identified, that would add significant gravitas to this story.

      To Kevin: It always amuses me that in the private sector, when you get sacked from the top job… you don’t get a lower ranked position and wait your time again.

      You go, work for another business - or start your own - and prove to the organisation that sacked you they had poor judgement.

      Despite the people popularity polls, I think you will lose on Monday. There’s only one poll that counts and that’s with your peers.

      So, I suggest you simply quit and start another party. And show us all you were wronged.

      At the moment, everything you do, shows us you weren’t worthy of our (the public’s) trust.

      Prove them wrong! Show them you’ve changed. Start another party!

    • Col says:

      11:38am | 25/02/12

      Such vitriol.. Where do you people come from? Labour, Liberal - much of a muchness. Neither party are true to their roots. Doesnt matter who it is, the results will be the same. Australia will still be the lucky country. There will always be whingers, but I for one, have my family, a job and food on the table. The rest is just icing.

    • jodi says:

      11:39am | 25/02/12

      Rudd sounds a childish, immature and egoistic man. .He is not fit to be our leader.
      Both Gillard and Rudd should remember, they have been elected to serve the majority of the citizens, they are put in office to serve the people, not to promote their personal agenda’s.

      Rudd reminds me so much of a former store manager who I used to work for, he too was a childish, egoistic and a bully, he would sulk too and ignore his staff who stood up to him. There is no place for such men and women in an democratic society.

    • Paul says:

      11:39am | 25/02/12

      The scariest thing about this whole issue is not Rudd or Julia…it is absolute ignorance of most of the Australian electorate….Not only did people vote for the party that Rudd led in 2007….but given all the evidence of failure after failure by the government he led they would still vote for him now!
      What does that say about the average voters intelligence in this country.

      The science fiction writer John Wyndham wrote through one of his characters in his excellent book “The Kraken Wakes”

      “The only failing of the Westminster system of government is that, the IDIOT’S vote is worth exactly the same as the wise man’s”

      And given all the evidence of terrible leadership and performance of Rudd, anyone who would even consider voting for a Kevin Rudd led ALP Federal Government is just that….. a BLOODY IDIOT

    • Geoff says:

      11:42am | 25/02/12

      A defeated K Rudd to starts his own party. He has the financial resources, the media savvy and a window of opportunity wilh prevailing political leaders not popular with the electorate. If he resigns from his seat and stands as an independent at the bi election he can claim some moral high ground and bring on an election.This would deny Labour the benifits of the Carbon Tax money to recover from the current poor state of support and the disaffected with Abbott have an alternative. Plans within plans

    • Repeat History says:

      11:45am | 25/02/12

      When I think of a political leader not kowtowing to the Unions ie AWU I think of Vince Gair - the ex Qld Premier. When I think of a leader who was not a Union boss I think of Qld, V. Gair and K. Rudd When I think of a government controlling the Parliament by sneakily removing a member of Parliament out of the equation I think of Vince Gair, Qld, the Labor and P. Slipper. When I think of the Labor imploding I think of Qld, Unions ie AWU, V.Gair and the resultant DLP.

      Are we in for a major repeat of this history?

    • Disgusted Fed Up says:

      11:46am | 25/02/12

      Claire says: 09:38am | 25/02/12 Writes
      The bullies always rebel when they don’t get their ways they bully their kids, their partner, their co workers

      This is so true what Claire is saying, this describes the people running the labor party perfectly.
      These scurrilous labor mps and there faceless men have all demonstrated time and time again they have no problem or morals in helping themselves to the countries money trough like absolute pigs in swell milking australia for it for all its worth for there own personal and social gain

      Now that is what you call CONTEMPT !!! for the australian people

    • John Smith says:

      11:55am | 25/02/12

      I agree with the calls of needing a new election. I think Kevin should have the job over Julia even if he wasn’t the best pm. The labour party has to go just look at the strain on the economy and the public service. Mining boom - mining jobs everywhere - well where are the jobs - we still have high unemployment - some areas at 8% and there is talk about recruiting from overseas????? We talk of the unemployment rate nationally at 5% but what is the real figure - that is we should include the underemployed - these are the people working casually or part time and supplement their income with newstart, youth allowance and parenting payment . What percentage of the population is receiving $1 or more of an income support payment. If someone does 1 hr of work they don’t make the unemployment figures even though they get money from Centrelink. The country needs fixing and unfortunately I don’t see any real contender anywhere in the parliament.

    • RSingh says:

      11:59am | 25/02/12

      Every politician under Gillards wing talks about hard decisions made with a heavy heart. Who thought of the peoples fealings? majority of Australians (the people) were the weight that whipped Howard of his feet, Believe me when i say the fealings that will bring down the labor goverment in 2013 if Rudd is not reinstated. im a labor supporter since1976, with a heavy heart i will chose liberal to show that you the gillard goverment ignored my voice.

    • Anjuli says:

      11:59am | 25/02/12

      We have this government because people in the media kept telling us that it was time for Howard to go despite how he left the Australian economy. How good Kevin is Laurie Oakes was one of his biggest admirers i seem to remember When ever Rudd was being interviewed they always gave him or any one in the government an easy time especially on ABC with Kerry O’Brien . When Costello or Howard were being interviewed before losing the election they really gave them a hard time. As long as people have not got a mind of their own, we will go on having situations like we have now and become the laughing stock of the world.The media need to give well balanced information,  if we are to have a well informed populous.In the mean time I will go with the advice I was given as a young woman in the UK ,if you want to vote for your country vote conservative, if you want to vote for yourself vote Labour.

    • Peter says:

      01:09pm | 26/02/12

      Everyone losers under Labor so I certainly would not say voting Labor is a vote for youself, maybe in the short term bludgers and criminals do well but eveyone losers under Labor in the end. Labor is not know as the disaster party for nothing.

    • Geoff says:

      12:06pm | 25/02/12

      Labor is now in an induced coma and on life support with brain damage so severe, that recovery is impossible.  Nothing can be done for Labor now but, hopefully, there can be some grace by organ donation.  At least some good will come from that.

    • Walter says:

      12:07pm | 25/02/12

      Do your stuff GG…...sack both houses and bring on the much needed (and asked for) election.

    • Andrew says:

      12:10pm | 25/02/12

      What a shame the GG can’t step in and dissolve this current parliament.
      We need to go to the polls and let the people decide.
      If Rudd was to win, could you imagine the tension in the caucus. The party would be incapable of functioning.
      Even if Gillard wins, there would be so much bad blood between the losers and her that the party could not function either.
      The independents have a lot to answer for, but I guess they will support who ever wins as they would be the losers as well if we were to go to the polls.
      How could you believe any of these people with what they say. They are all a pack of liars. It is a shame we can’t performance manage them like the rest of us are.
      Their first KPI would be not to lie.
      What a sorry mess.

    • Mick says:

      12:26pm | 25/02/12

      Liberal party could run Roger Rabbit against Labor and get in,Abbott is an idiot but Labor have completely ruined their credibility and can not recover.There should be an election NOW and get it over and done with!! The Labor party has completely stuffed themselves and there can be no redemption.

    • James D says:

      12:32pm | 25/02/12

      Sad isn’t it that Labor chose to hush this up and even reward Rudd. Little wonder then that they’re having so much trouble now convincing so many that he really is The Man from Mars. We were entitled to know how useless he was when he was effectively ruining the country.

    • Grant says:

      12:46pm | 25/02/12

      Yes. And now Albanese is voting for Rudd because he didn’t like the coup last year. I hope the other members of the caucus are thinking about the future rather than the past. Recycling last years rubbish is not going to help.

      I can’t help wondering whose pissing in Albanese’s pocket.

    • Mr Pod says:

      12:46pm | 25/02/12

      The paper, for me, just shows public servant office egos clashing with PMs office ego.  Our political system requires an ability with (labor or coalition) office politics which promotes people who would be good at running a stationary cupboard but not really national visionary leaders.  Thank goodness politics is just a current affairs side show and we have real historical players in business, technology, arts and academia that go about their duty with less childish behaviour.

    • Pea says:

      04:12pm | 25/02/12

      @Pod

      But if the cupboard were stationary, how could it run ?

    • Mitch says:

      12:49pm | 25/02/12

      Anyone who thinks they are defending the innocent by arguing for Rudd on the basis of loyalty and populist perception of a guy taken advantage of need to get some perspective. You don’t vote for a PM in Australia you vote for a party who elects a leader for the party to run the government. The party we elected to move the country somewhere overwhelmingly told us they could not do that with him as he was more concerned with being a big deal, being popular, being liked than actually being an effective PM. They took his leadership because they wanted to get serious reform through and didn’t want to wait to win another election. It was a choice between doing what politicians sign up for - moving the country in a direction they think will make it better or leaving in a guy people liked even if it meant that nothing was achieved, if the four years was wasted in breakfast show appearances and photo ops.

      Should Julia have let him fall on his own sword and take the leadership after a liberal victory in 2010? Sure. Should she have been honest about the extent of the problem in the first place and not tried to spare him embarrassment by not discussing their meeting? Probably.

      But you either care about making the country better through a party or you don’t. Australia should really stop mistaking a popularity contest with politics. Nothing is achieved because you feel like you are avenging Kevin. No body wants to work for him now anyway, those that say they do are only worried about their own seats. Why vote for labor at all and be upset about their current embarrassing problem if you are comfortable with leaving a guy in office who wasn’t achieving anything anyway? I personally am proud of Julia for having the balls to do it in the first place, for caring more for measurable and real results than what people thought of her and for staying the course and wearing ridiculous criticism because she knows that results matter in Government, not baby kissing.

    • Kat says:

      03:53pm | 25/02/12

      You are quite correct that the party is entitled to select the leader of the party. But if the party has lost confidence of parliament, the people get a voice.
      If you live by the sword you must die by it also. The caucus vote is only the beginning.  JG will know this by March.

    • Gregg says:

      04:37pm | 25/02/12

      Yeah But and Butted,
      It’s the people, the people power movement and can’t you hear the chanting for the enchanted?

      Are you going down to Monday’s Canberra ” We want Kevin Chant convention ” ?
      Should be a humdinger and Kev has tweeted he’ll come out and get pissed with the chanters after a win, whether he or Jules does it.

      You’ve gotta give it to Kevolemon after all this shit being flung!

    • Davo says:

      12:50pm | 25/02/12

      RUDD staffers are working overtime on spamming comments sections everywhere! The ordinary voter does not contain that much vitriole. In the event we should trust opinion polls wholeheartedly, lets just run the country via newspoll. The Fuhrer awaits.

    • Marisa Fenech says:

      04:11pm | 25/02/12

      Actually I personally feel quite vitriolic about the party I voted for removing the leader i voted for, in such a nasty fashion, I have yet to hear anything which would convince me of the need to do so at the time. The country voted for him, after having been voted in by the party, very large question mark! I would have thought after being chief of staff for Goss in queensland they would have known his managerial style by the time they voted for him. the nastiness currently being aired, as someone once said"methinks they doth protest too much”.

    • AS says:

      12:56pm | 25/02/12

      There are videos on You-Tube of Tony Abbott saying how much he supports a carbon tax in 2009. Flip Flop to 2012 when it is now politically convenient for him to say that it will destroy the country. This man is a complete fraud who will say anything to be elected yet seems to escape without any media scrutiny from Oakes and his cronies, yet they have the hide to call Gillard a liar.

    • Q. Pham says:

      05:11pm | 25/02/12

      @AS -” Tony Abbott blah blah nasty blah blah Tony Abbott blah blah evil blah blah Tony Abbott blah blah Dr. No blah blah ...etc.”

      Thanks for your input AS !

    • Martin From Canberra says:

      12:57pm | 25/02/12

      Rudd says that the Gillard Government blames him for the ills of the Labor Party,well you only have to look at his record to see thats true,Look at Whale watch,petrol watch,grocery watch,the green car policy, Computers in schools,the NBN the BER,the Pink Batts,the mining tax and the Greatest moral challenge of our time (Climate Chamge)..all failures for Rudd,all empty promises,which we can expect the same if he comes back.He was loathed in Canberra,and you only have to look at the Canberra polls,no one wants Rudd back why?,because we worked with him,and know how hard Gillard worked to fix things and keep the Goverment from imploading.KRUDD has not changed,there will be more soft interviews on things like Rove,The Project,the Morning Shows,and the ABC,he will as always steer well clear from 2GB,and 2UE,where he did not do one interview with Alan Jones in his time as PM.Love Gillard or hate her,she is the only one to steer Labor to victory.

    • Kat says:

      03:46pm | 25/02/12

      In Defence of Canberra, JG and her ministry have been the worst govt in my over ten years in public sector. Minister Smith was a clear example of that with his premature weighing in on the Skype debacle. John Faulkner, Rudd’s cabinet minister, was the complete opposite, a competent, balanced, and effective minister.

      After their debacle with Malaysian solution and causing instability in what was settled law in Aus, it caused me to ask can I serve this government. The answer was no. So I left.

      Surely, you must concede this is not in interests of Australia to gamble with settled law that the best legal minds knew they would lose. The claims levied at Rudd in this respect apply equally to JG.

      This was all Gillard and her backers, and Rudd didn’t factor in it.

      I also object to your single experience, without reference to a single piece of evidence as capturing the ” Canberra”  experience.

      Mine is such that I have never seen morale in the public sector as low as it is since Gillard ascended to power. Even Rudd’s threats of Razor Gang were not so damaging as my experience mid to late 2011.

      Re your references to Rudd appearance on a demographic such as Rove et al, aren’t you pleased to see someone cutting through to youth about the importance of political dialogue in this country? I for one thank him for harnessing their energy, regardless of which side of the political divide they ultimately fall on. This is good for our democracy. I don’t see JG achieving this and nor does the political establishment want her to.

      The reason Canberra is so labour focused, is because it keeps the public sector to be the place of opportunity, and it is self serving.

    • Felix says:

      12:59pm | 25/02/12

      Game over for Julia. Doesn’t matter what happens on Monday.
      Polls put her at record lows!
      Albo not backing her and Hawker tore her a new one.
      She actually claims the carbon tax that nobody wanted and the one she promised not to implement but still did to win over Brown as an achievement?

      Rudd was removed for far less, if she believes her own words of a government that lost its way she should quit now. If not she isn’t just a liar but a stone face self-centered hypocrite!

    • Kat says:

      01:00pm | 25/02/12

      I have serious concerns about the premise of the Rudd Prime Ministership painted here.

      As the insider here reflects, the Ministers placed minor regulatory issues on the cabinet agenda. It is each Minister, and the PM& C department who schedule what goes to cabinet. Rudd can only preside over what that presents him. Perhaps it ought to have been Rudd who sacked each of them for grinding government to a halt with triviality. Perhaps this paralysis of decision making, should have been resolved by each Minister themselves, as that is what they were being paid for.
      Perhaps Rudd’s disinterest in the cabinet process was BECAUSE the Minister’s dropped the ball.

      If Rudd was presented with policy, and the adviser could not explain in ordinary terms what it meant for the today tonight viewing folk, how can a government communicate with the populace. That is a totally legitimate question to ask at the outset. The advisers should be questioned on why they found it too difficult to answer.

      Every government has its style, if he was in fact so consistent with the “today/tonight test”, it was the job of all ministers and senior bureaucrats to adapt to that style and provide compelling and honest advice that answers the question.

      If the ability to adapt was beyond them, then they should have resigned, which perhaps accounts for the litany that did, and this goes to their talent, not Rudd’s style.

      What good is policy that can not be explained and that does nothing to add to the political literacy of the population.  It is exactly that problem that delivers the parliament we have today.

      Elections are never wrong, they give the government the people deserve.
      Perhaps Rudd’s action this week show what a farce it has become and people might now take a little more care with votes they cast.

      Alternatively, given 34% are committed to sticking with Labor on a ride to democratic suicide, the other 66% have a greater obligation to exercise care for the benefit of us all.

    • Carol says:

      01:10pm | 25/02/12

      Of all those who have posted here, how many have ever met Rudd?  I’d suggest very few, how so many people can post so much BS is beyond me.

      It was thought the Lemmings had died out, this site proves that view to be incorrect.

    • paul says:

      08:17am | 26/02/12

      I’ve met Kevin when I worked as a political staffer in Parliament House Canberra… It was common knowledge he ran a constipated government. Everything went into his office and nothing came out.
      Media had instant entree, cabinet ministers and parly secretaries had little or none. Now they are telling it as it was and still is.

    • Kerri says:

      01:11pm | 25/02/12

      It is well known that people go into politics cause they can’t get a real job. Therefore they got no idea what goes on in the real world. There illiteracy and immaturity is really showing. Can we send them to remedial classes

    • Scotty P says:

      01:17pm | 25/02/12

      I dont see anything that points to this being made before any of this started. He says he could not be bothered to set down his recollections and yet he then does so. If it was written so far inb the past then why have we not seen it untill now.
      It seems like it was written by Wayne Swan last night with all the venomous vitriol he could spew onto the page. It is hardly news, it is anonamous unsubstantiated rumors.

    • Joe Blow says:

      01:22pm | 25/02/12

      Yet, despite ALL these failings, Julia thought he should be the one out there representing the country to foreign governments?  Pretty poor judgement in my books.  And funny how Swan didn’t think it was worth highlighting previously?

    • marley says:

      08:02am | 26/02/12

      Remember the old adage - hold your friends close, and your enemies closer.  Gillard knew she needed Rudd for the numbers, and probably thought she could better control him if he were in the Cabinet and part of her government.  She overrated his loyalty to the party and his colleagues, though, and has paid the price.

    • Niccolo says:

      01:25pm | 25/02/12

      Albanese falling in behind Rudd will probably tip it Rudd’s way,A surprise,he will probably be treasurer next Saturday, Rudd will win !

    • youdy beaudy says:

      01:26pm | 25/02/12

      If Kevin Rudd wins the vote of caucus on Monday then he may well lose the support of the independents who have supported Julia. Then the Government and it’s new leader will be forced to an Election as it will be impossible to govern with just one seat majority. If the independents go with Abbott then it will definately happen soon after to resolve the situation. So people who are unhappy will get their election and have their say.

      Rudd calling this so close to the Queensland Election shows scant regard for his party who will be battling to hold Queensland which at the moment is bound to go to the LNP.

      If this all happens then people who go to vote should cast their vote for their local member providing they are doing a good job. Don’t abandon your local member because of party politics. At the end of the day it is the local member that is important as they represent local people and their needs.

      Labor in Queensland have many good local members, for instance, on the Gold Coast the seat of Moncrieff has been held for a number of terms by Peta Kaye Croft who has been a wonderful Labor member for the Area.

      Many good things have come out of her representation in the area. The liberals have put someone forward to challenge her for her seat just to get the job. The Libs have had to sack two of the runners because of one making Homophobic statements and the other running against Peta Kaye has been found to have attended a Swingers Club with his wife some years ago. In his defense he said that they didn’t know it was a swingers club and were invited out for the night by others.

      However i think under the current circumstances anyone who runs for Government in an electorate has to be squeaky clean to go anywhere. People should also watch where they put their preference. This is important for this preferential vote is where many Elections are won or lost.

      Federally much good has been done by the Labor Party partly with K Rudd in the beginning and then after Julia continued on with the work. The Liberal party have created a very negative anti Labor message, but the Liberals never like to be beaten and are filled with sour grapes. It’s obvious. But the Liberals are not progressive enough for me. Not Futuristic enough for me to vote for them. I think of my Grandchildren and what the Liberals will give them for their future and I just come up with the word nothing. They are too backward in their thinking for me.

      I think Kevin will lose on Monday. Then he should step out for good. Julia needs to feed a bit of money into the coffers of those who don’t need it and by doing that she may win them to her side. Good luck to everybody, i say. Julia should remember Joh Bjelke Peterson and his method of, “feeding the chooks”, as regards talking to the media. This stood him in good stead over his years of corrupt Government in Queensland. You just have to find out what sort of food the chooks like and give it to them and then you will reign for many a year. After all it is the media that people take notice of. They either love you or hate you. And people, whatever it takes to get the love out of them should be fed. Regards all.!

    • Don C says:

      01:32pm | 25/02/12

      Busy morning - too busy for The Punch, it seems.  We’ve seen some interesting things.

      First, we had the appalling spectacle of Rudd’s unelected minder, Bruce Hawker, lecturing the Australian people about what Prime Minister Gillard should do on Monday. 

      Electors chose Government. Parties chose PMs. For good, safe democratic reason.  Still, at least the unelected minder has at last emerged into the daylight. Bit different to his role in negotiations over forming the Gillard minority Labor government. 

      Second, we saw Anthony Albanese and Julia Gillard give, in turn, mighty impressive performances of grace under extreme pressure.

      I disagree with Albo’s decision. But it is people like Albanese and Gillard who, performing magnificently like that, can bring Labor together as a continuing productive force for the good of Australia , to the next election and beyond. 

      So, after all that, I cannot see how Rudd can win in Caucus on Monday, unless several dozen of them are so spineless they go to water at the last minute.

      Even if Rudd did win the Monday ballot as Labor Leader, there’s no chance at all of continuing stable minority Labor Government, mid session. 

      And if made Labor Leader, Rudd would not in fact be PM. Because the Governor General could not, by convention, appoint a new, different, untested minority PM in that way.

      The GGs only course would be to ask Rudd as Labor Leader to first call on a vote of confidence in the House of Reps. That’s the reality.

      And the reality is that Rudd would lose such a vote. So after all that agony, Rudd would just be Opposition Leader again.

      Worse, Abbott must then be called in as caretaker PM. In the very messy (House of Reps only)  election that would very shortly follow, the Abbott led Coalition would win, and in a rout.

      On the other hand, with Gillard returned, the status quo remains, and stable minority Labor government can continue, until the proper time for an election in 2013.

      Who’s been advising Rudd on these points - if anyone - one can only
      wonder.

      But still, what would I know, eh. I’m just an ordinary voter. I’m not an ALP member and I’ve never worked for them.  As an ordinary Labor voter, I just hope Rudd loses comprehensively on Monday.

      I hope that from Monday, Julia Gillard and the Labor team, including Albo, continue to govern well for the good of Australia, in stable and effective minority.

      So that the people get to judge Labor’s performance and the state of the country properly, at the next election, when it falls due in 2013.

    • Kat says:

      06:23pm | 25/02/12

      Interesting analysis. Are you able cite how the GG gets to endorse Rudd if he wins the ballot. He is not forming a government out of an election, so I don’t see how GG gets involved automatically. Unless any of the current allegiance switch, the minority doesn’t seem to be in issue.
      Political survival is not in their interest to do so.

      If Abbott pushes no confidence vote, if Rudd is appointed leader, there is a real prospect of Rudd increasing majority by wooing Katter to his side.
      For Gillard, the no confidence vote is more risky after how she betrayed Wilkie.
      I too have no affiliations that bias my view, and no inside knowledge, but am merely an interested observer and voter. By my view, there is only political upside in this move for Rudd

    • Don C says:

      06:18am | 26/02/12

      GG endorse? Pardon? I didn’t say that.

      Her duty is to appoint and swear in as PM whichever Leader has the clear support of a workable majority of the Reps. Only Gillard is known to have that.

      The current support agreement is with the Gillard government.

      No-one knows what level of Independents support Rudd might get as Leader - there’s been no time to work it up and there certainly won’t be after 10:00 am Monday in a sitting week.

      Beacuse after the ballot, the very next task for a newly elected Leader, whoever it is, will be to whizz over to Yarralumla, either to be formally appointed and sworn in (Gillard, as PM with an existing workable minority agreement) or to be asked to go back to Parliament first, to have a working majority confirmed on the floor of the House (Rudd, as leader with no agreement and an unknown balance).

      At least two of the independents have given strong indications they won’t support Rudd but a sound-bite declaration on camera at the doors just won’t cut it for appointing a PM. 

      With the Parliament already in Session, this time they don’t get three ludicrous weeks to dick around ion. On Monday they’ll simply have to vote, there and then. 

      So, I’m certain that should Rudd win as Leader on Monday,  a House of Representatives confidence vote will very shortly follow.  A number of political and constitutional analysts have said the same thing over the last several days.

      What’s less clear, I agree, is whether he can win a vote on the floor of the House. I really don’t see how he can. If he does, well, back to Yarralumla to be appointed and sworn in.

      At the end of the day, I hope that Gillard wins so resoundingly on Monday that such nonsense simply cannot happen again as we run up to the 2013 election.

      If I turn out to be wrong, so be it, but that’s my honest opinion.

    • Kat says:

      01:37pm | 26/02/12

      Thanks Don,

      I meant nothing sinister by my use of endorse, nor suggest that you used it. My point is, as their is no constitutional office of PM, without a no confidence vote, how does GG get involved?

      There is a government which has been sworn in, and a ministry, which I agree she confirms after a general election. we are not in those circumstances.  I was not aware that she is required to swear in a PM as it is not a constitutional office.

      If as all say, this is only for the caucus to decide, who it’s leader is, this weakens your position.

      Until parliament triggers a cause for it to be prorogued or dissolved, I understand the minority arrangements remains the status quo. My point is that I do not see how the GG gets to intervene with the present parliamentary balance, or pass comment on it.

      Your position seems to be that it would be incumbent on Rudd if he wins, (which I agree seems unlikely) to prove that he can keep a minority to the GG, rather than for the parliament to vote on this point. I would like to know why and who, the constitutional experts are that also think this is so.

      I would be interested to read the constitutional experts you have been following, can you provide links, or names for my reference. I ask this not to be snooty, but out of genuine interest in just where this can go, and beyond the superficial media contest portrayed in the mainstream.

      Again, in summary, it is not clear to me how the GG gets involved without a vote of no confidence being passed on the floor of the house. there is no constitutional trigger for her to do so.

    • Kat says:

      02:02pm | 26/02/12

      Don, the plot thickens…. GG is not even around to swear anyone in if required! she will be in NZ til Thurs!

      I guess she has the inside call on the numbers, but the no confidence vote will happen regardless of caucus.

      I hope she has a flexible ticket!

    • marley says:

      02:28pm | 26/02/12

      @Kat - I think the point is, if Rudd rolls Julia, he’s going to have a lot of very disgruntled MPs on his side of the benches.  Abbott could immediately move a confidence vote, and probably would, and I don’t know that Rudd would have the numbers.  That’s when the GG would get involved.  It only takes a couple to defect, for his government to fall before it even starts.

    • Kat says:

      08:28pm | 26/02/12

      Don,

      Thanks for those. I will read through them now.

      GG whereabouts are important not re the ballot, given likely outcome, but re the no confidence motion Abbott will subsequently run. if it passes, she will have to come home, surely!

      I trust from your comment below re procedures and timing, you understand the issue I was exploring, albeit you may have felt I was criticising your contribution. I did not intend to cause you any offence or belittle the offering in my queries, and if I did, I apologise.

      Thanks again for the links.

    • Kat says:

      08:45pm | 26/02/12

      Don,

      Very helpful, thanks.

    • Don C says:

      06:55am | 27/02/12

      Thanks, none taken. Aiming just for what preciseness I can as an interested observer.

      Gillard looks set to win the Party Room ballot in a canter. With Gillard as PM, the Independents have their agreement already, and their best interest is to retain the status quo. With Gillard as PM, a no-confidence motion will fail, whatever the sound and fury from the Opposition benches.

      Looking back I see one earlier remark of mine was a tick off the mark - carried away by symmetry - about Gillard or Rudd “whizzing off to Yarralumla”.

      As PM, Gillard calls the Party spill. When she wins that vote, it simply confirms the status quo. As PM she already holds her commission from the GG and will have no need to be re-appointed - no trip to Yarralumla for her.

      But should Rudd win, I’ve no doubt there will promptly be a no-confidence motion, and/or a visit to Yarralumla. I’d expect Rudd would lose a no-confidence motion. I doubt it matters in which order, but whichever it is, it’ll all be covered by proper procedure.

      On the GGs absence in NZ:

      Whether its the PM or the GG, occasional absences on duty elsewhere never impede the day to day business of gov’t, or the occasional need to address an urgency.

      As an interested observer, I don’t have all the details or refs firmly to hand, but on the GG’s presence or otherwise, there’ll be one or more contingency options.

      As one example, there is the role of the office of Administrator of the Commonwealth (of Australia).

      The position is occupied only as and when needed, usually by the senior of the State Governors, for the time the GG is absent. Well established system. Effectively the Administrator acts for the GG, in the same way as if she was here.

      Another is transport. There may well be an RAAF VIP Flight aircraft already in position in Un Zud.  Its about 4 hours flying time from Auckland to Canberra, and they are two hours ahead of us.  If she left at Noon NZ time, she could be back in Canberra by 2:00pm local time.

    • GoJulia says:

      01:41pm | 25/02/12

      Go Julia,  You have my vote

    • Kempus61 says:

      01:46pm | 25/02/12

      No matter which way you go, ALP or the Libs, the pending economic crisis in Euro and the US is going to get us anyway. It’s just a matter of time. China can’t keep growing if there is know one to buy their product, their own people don’t have the money and what little they have they invest. Libs might just keep our heads above water with the right policies. ALP no hope this time, the money we did have from the mining boom which bailed us out last time is spent. For mine Rudd communicates well but appears to run a disorganised government. Gillard gets things done but can’t communicate with the public and makes us all cringe when she opens her mouth.

    • Hoo Haa says:

      01:53pm | 25/02/12

      Give it a bone unknown author. We’ve all worked for bosses who are like that (and make a lot more money than the PM.) So you know what employees in the real world do? They learn to manage their boss or they leave. The employees never dictate to the shareholders who the leader is in business. In fact many of these “disfunctional” managers are in the most senior positons, still!

    • Don C says:

      06:54am | 26/02/12

      No, sorry, that isn’t a proper comparison at all.

      The Members are not the personal employees of any Prime Minister. Nor should they be. No sort of democracy could work like that.

      They are their Party’s elected representatives of the people.

      It is their job to chose, from among their elected members,  a competent Leader and together to carry on good goverment of the country as they see it, by majority in the Parliament under the PM that has their support.

      Anyone would think this is the first time a Party Leader was duly given the boot while in office, to be replaced by the due and proper vote of their colleagues.

      It isn’t, by a long chalk.

    • jaykay says:

      02:09pm | 25/02/12

      interesting that all of these reports of how hard it was to work with Rudd surface, but i dont recall one Government minister stepping down and moving to the back bench in protest. I imagine he is a complete ego-manic, although, i also imagine to become PM you need a good dose of inflated self-worth. Hope he kicks her arse on Monday, live by the sword and all of that…..........................

    • Kat says:

      02:22pm | 25/02/12

      Can someone tell me who the Foreign Minister is since Rudd’s resignation? When is his resignation effective from.

      The DFAT website still says Kevin. I guess JG is not quite getting on with governing…If she is confiedent, why has she not made the appointment from among her sycophants? There are so many of them, if we are to believe the media we get.

    • Mouse says:

      06:07pm | 25/02/12

      Kat, I am pretty sure Craig Emerson is acting FM at the moment.  :o)

    • Gregg says:

      07:51pm | 25/02/12

      Craig Emmerson was nominated by Gillard to take over but Rudd’s abandonment of his duties surely says something about how critical it is for someone to be flitting about as much as he did.

    • Kat says:

      02:53pm | 26/02/12

      Thx! Phew just in case we start something with NZ (wag the dog style), I wanted to know who’d be in the chair!

    • Ann says:

      02:27pm | 25/02/12

      I will never again vote for Labor with Kevin Rudd as the leader.  I fully concur with the reasons for his ousting.  I believe that Julia has fought bravely like a trooper for our country in the face of the stress, blame and undermining by Kevin Rudd supporters. 
      Tony Abbott, still sore and spiteful after the totally legal result of the last election, has been determined to block every move, even at the expense of the country, and to make us believe that it was not a legitimate result.  I think it has not been too difficult for him to sway the population with resentment for Julia, because we have long been a nation willing to cut down the tall poppy. 
      I highly respected Kevin Rudd as Minister for Foreign Affairs and very much looked forward to the new strong and even compassionate government I believed he promised as Prime Minister.  It didn’t take long to realise that, before all else, he is a man for himself.  HIs spite and simmering resentment is even worse than that of the Liberals because he is prepared to hurt both the country and his own party to claw back leadership.  If he truly had no intention of contesting the leadership until a few days ago, then he could have simply demanded that his errant caucus colleagues to desist.
      He is no better than an arsonist who lights fires in a period of extreme fire danger and then rolls up with the fire brigade,  flashing lights and sirens blaring, to put out what he started.  It will be a trevesty if he again becomes the poppy again on Monday and I hope he is soon cut off at the roots.

    • Alan says:

      02:28pm | 25/02/12

      Isn’t it amazing that Labor politicians now talk about how disfunctional Rudd was but were not prepared to do the honorable thing at the time and resign from cabinet? Not interested in governing but very interested in lining their own pockets - can the military please step in and rid us off of the piles of dung that are our nations alleged capitals?

    • Bertrand says:

      05:54pm | 25/02/12

      Yes. A military coup is the only sensible option.

      /end sarcasm.

    • Mike Inez says:

      02:40pm | 25/02/12

      It must really be bad for the ALP, acotrel and TChong have kept silent. Really looking bad for all ALP supporters.

    • Uncle Joe says:

      02:51pm | 25/02/12

      Gillard will still win on Monday.  Because her supporters will not follow their hearts but follow their jobs/positions. Porr Kevin

    • Mik says:

      02:56pm | 25/02/12

      Is there a real leader out there,someone,anyone, prepared to turf these brawling children out?
      (Or is it even worse, vindictive, self centered divorcing parents fixated on broken dreams and transference? Lots of parental alienation going on as well.)

    • Fitzie says:

      09:02pm | 26/02/12

      I have read with interest these blogs and have been captured by Rudds shock challenge along with so many Australians. However, have we forgotten that this is our nation, this is our land ... this is our country!!! As thinking informed people we voted in a bloke called Kevin because we thought he was the best man for the job.  Rudd was dishonoured and ousted unfairly and THAT is not the Australian way. The people voted him in and like it or not, he and his family & many supporters really believe that he did the best work he was possibly capable of. I expressly applaud his Apology to our Aboriginal first nation family and still feel every emotion of this first step our PM took - of monumental proportions! 
      I was not happy with some of the other bungled issues before he was ousted, but I do believe Kevin needs a second chance to right the wrongs and get a fair go once again!
      Who looks after our PM? What Mentor/Coach/Counsellor can assist him with this task of work/life balance? Who can hold him accountable to self care, rest and reflection which is a necessary component to live and lead well??
      JG is in the position by default and this again is not an honourable way for anyone to become a leader. She also is doing the best she can but she did not get this role by fair means which is what all women would want for the first female PM - a landslide victory in a fair and democratic manner!!! 
      We need good strong men and women to stand up and be counted and write straight on the crooked lines of previous Political role-models and leaders.
      As I listen to the youth of today - they are so disillusioned by Poliitics, the lack of truth and integrity in our Nations leaders and the ‘spin’ which is rolled out with convicition. It may be that we are indeed believing Matrix illusions rather than reality
      We need authentic human beings who will put their egos and power addictions aside to work for the common good, the ‘fair go’, building stronger communities, listening to people from the ground up, equality among people groups, empowering the strong and encouraging the weak, valuing our old and young, implementing fair reforms and building up the people of this great country we call home!
      However, we must start getting the process right and it begins with Truth,with Respect and with honour… PLEASE as the nations representatives,  right the wrong of ousting Rudd in the shocking, unlovely manner of the past ... He deserves a second chance and to remain the peoples elected PM until fair election. PLEASE CAUCUS lets vote Kevin in for his natural term and allow the democratic process to take its natural course.

    • Arturo says:

      02:59pm | 25/02/12

      Is Rudd going to increase the Refugee program to 20,000 per year?

      Data from the UK:
      In 2011 the UK had 19804 Asylum Applications.  In the same year 11848 applications were rejected and 2397 people withdrew their applications.  This is a net acceptance of about 5,000 people.

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/jun/26/non-eu-immigration-uk-statistics

      This makes Australia’s current refugee program of 13,750 look very generous and there appears to be little justification to increase it.  We are about 1/3 the population of the UK and we are taking over twice the number of refugees.

    • nothfreoite says:

      09:32pm | 25/02/12

      Canada has another 10 million people than Australia and takes 3,000 less refugees

    • Bear says:

      11:06pm | 25/02/12

      “Canada has another 10 million people than Australia and takes 3,000 less refugees.” So? And ??? Ghana takes way more than us too.

    • marley says:

      06:24am | 26/02/12

      @nothfreoite:  that’s nonsense.  Australia has been talking a grand total of 13,750 refugees a year, on and offshore.  Canada took 24,696 refugees in 2010.  You’re only considering Canada’s offshore quota (which is 16,000) and ignoring the onshore component.

    • RBarron says:

      03:11pm | 25/02/12

      YOU REALLY DON’T GET IT.
      Sky news reported that a senior source in the Julia Gillard camp mocked the fact that Kevin Rudd is very popular in these shopping mall visits but it is another thing up hold cabinet process and run government.
      The people in them shopping malls are the one that elect you and are the people that you should be working for.
      The people in the shopping malls are your bosses.
      You are there to serve the people not the people to serve you.

      It doesn’t matter how good you are running Government and up holding Cabinet process if you are not elected.
      You didn’t get elected in the last election as Julia Gillard as leader.
      And that was ever on the bases that there would be No Carbon Tax under the Government she leads.
      And Swan “what we rejected is this hysterical allegation that somehow we are moving towards a carbon tax” (Meet the Press, 15 August 2010).
      Swan “We have made our position very clear, we have ruled it out” (7.30 Report, 12 August 2010).

      1. Put Rudd back in charge as leader.
      2. Put people in place to support Rudd and insure Cabinet process and running Government.
      3. You ditch the Carbon Tax.
      4. The Emission Trading System is nothing more than for big bankers to make money on.
      5. Serve your root and the people that elect you.

      The US are broke and the EU are not much better their Climate change effort is just rubbish compared to what you want to put in place here.
      Wake up.
      It is not rocket sciences.
      That senior source is stupid because what Gillard did at the elect will not work again.
      No one believes her anymore.

      I have been born and breed a Labor voter and for me to split my vote in 2007 was hard but for me to vote for the Libs in both houses in 2010 for the 1st time in my life since I was 18 and I am 44 this years.
      In 2007 election both Labor and Liberals what a Carbon Tax so I had no choice but I was glad I split my voter for the 1st time and voted for my local Labor member and voted for the liberals in the upper house. I was one of many that flooded the Libs and they changed their leader listened to the people and stopped the ETS and CPRS.

      As hard as what it will be I have no choice but to vote for the Libs again.

    • Mr Bear Snr says:

      03:20pm | 25/02/12

      As long as Labor has Power hungry Manipulators (Simon Crean and Stepen Smith) with their own Private Agenda, in its ranks, then Labor will be destined to the Opposition Benches for a, VERY LONG TIME!

    • Brian Taylor says:

      03:21pm | 25/02/12

      The author is unnamed, so it could have been written by Gillard herself lol
      I have as much a hard time believing Laurie as I do believing Gillard.
      these unproven stories you can usually take with a pinch of salt.
      Laurie as everyone knows, is a gillard suporter, yes, he asked Gillard some questions that Rudd had leaked to him, big deal.
      Labor is digging it’s own grave and I for one am glad.

    • Darlene Ford says:

      03:33pm | 25/02/12

      If this article were to have any credibility the “author” would put their name to it. Another faceless individual? Transparency is word used too often, but not put in practice. Poor journalism Mr Oakes.

    • Andrew says:

      03:43pm | 25/02/12

      Apparently after this morning gathering in Cessnock NSW Julia Gillard was seen weeping afterwards as she departed with her entourage.

      Doesn’t seem like the actions of someone confident they are going to win, nor is it a quality we want the leader of our nation to possess. We need someone who gets on with the job and doesn’t let their failing career break them down emotionally.

    • Gregg says:

      07:55pm | 25/02/12

      Could be that she had just received a call from one of her liutenants in Albo and seeing as he was a bit emotional in his public announcement, could be that his decision cut a bit deep.
      She is human afterall and that should not be seen as a fallacy.

    • John says:

      03:46pm | 25/02/12

      Although it doesn’t tell us anything new, and as you remind us, it’s “just one person’s view”, it’s still an interesting, albeit internally contradictory, piece of ephemera, Laurie.

      What is entertaining, however, is reading the comments from those who shed all those crocodile tears for Kevin Rudd, and for whom until a few days ago no insult was below them for the Prime Minister, now bagging Kevin Rudd and supporting her. Of course that’s because they know, as does everyone, that he has a much better chance of defeating Tony Abbott than she does.

      And of course the Prime Minister had no choice but to call for a ballot as soon as possible, but even if she does still have the numbers on Monday, she knows that what will see Kevin Rudd as Prime Minister again, sooner or later, is the fact that after Bob Hawke, he’s still the most popular Prime Minister in Australian history.

    • GW says:

      03:56pm | 25/02/12

      @Mitch - couldn’t agree more.
      I worked with someone who displayed the same behaviours as krudd. It was frustrating and impossible to budge the immovable ego and get anything done. So much time and effort (and money) was wasted in counter-productive meetings run by a bully and tyrant. Intimidation and petulant behaviour do not befit the highest office in the land.

      This can’t be about popularity - it has to be about skill, real skill. These are the toughest times we’ve faced. We can’t afford a captain at the helm who doesn’t have the skills and backing of his crew to deliver, or can’t marshall them in a crisis.

      I am not a Labour supporter, never have been. But if there is any sniff of Abbott getting the PM gig, god help us all as well. The Libs need a seriously strong contender with all the skills needed for the job. He ain’t it.

      Take a look across the Tasman - they have a successful self-made businessman as their PM, not a politician. Maybe that’s the paradigm shift needed in the wily world of politics.

      Roll on Tuesday.

    • Keep on rollin says:

      10:07am | 26/02/12

      I know, let’s get Gina Rinehart and Clive Palmer to share the PM’ship on alternate days.
      I’m sure they would have the nations best interests at heart.

    • Harlin says:

      04:12pm | 25/02/12

      Thanks Lindsay Tanner for your summary. Unfortunately the great unwashed will never read this..and its them that vote for this rabble.

    • Mark says:

      04:20pm | 25/02/12

      The return of Kevin Rudd as Prime Minister doesn’t bode very well for James Button’s book sales. He should have written faster.

    • AllanJ says:

      04:29pm | 25/02/12

      Kevin Rudd laid out clearly in his address where the real battle lines are drawn.  This is a take no prisoners, fight to the death between Labor Party factional leaders and those party members, now led by Rudd, who are aiming to strip them of their power.

      No matter the assurances that Julia Gillard may give, those who side with Rudd will, in the event of a Gillard win, have their political careers terminated at the first opportunity.  This is something that Gillard can do nothing about.

      I am no fan of Kevin Rudd, but I sincerely hope he wins on Monday.  The party machine, the “faceless men” (they really should start to think up some new clichés), have for decades been feeding mediocrity into parliamentary Labor ranks as they favour those who kow-tow to their directives.  The debacle in New South Wales last year was a direct result of this modus operandi.

      Our democratic system desperately needs both sides of politics to be able to offer teams of competent and intelligent people who can think for themselves while still maintaining an acceptable degree of unity.  Only one side is capable of doing this, at least to an acceptable level, at this time.

    • marley says:

      07:58am | 26/02/12

      You do realize that one of Rudd’s principle backers is Bruce Hawker, the ultimate “faceless man” while Julia’s backers include most of the caucus, whose faces we all know.  Just because Rudd says he’s against the faceless men, doesn’t make it so.

    • AllanJ says:

      10:04am | 26/02/12

      @Marley.  Yes.  But Hawker is not a factional leader.  He has been a paid PR consultant offering campaign strategy advice to the then Prime Minister.

      While I agree that you don’t take everything Rudd says at face value, this is one issue upon which he has taken a consistent stance ever since he came into political view.  It has always been well known among politicians and the public alike that he did not align himself with any faction and he openly criticised factionalism and the factional leaders before and after he became Prime Minister.

      My view is that he meant what he said not just for altruistic reasons but because it suits his ambitions and his personality style not to have such people looking over his shoulder and telling him what to do.

    • Lou says:

      04:36pm | 25/02/12

      The only conclusion I can come to is Tony has the Labor Party rattled.

    • Frank says:

      06:13pm | 25/02/12

      @lou

      In that case the only conclusion I can come to is that Kevin has you rattled.

    • stephen says:

      06:12pm | 25/02/12

      The Newspoll today said that most people want Rudd to become PM.

      People do not count, here, or if they did, a General Election would be called.

      So what about it ?

    • Martin says:

      01:39am | 26/02/12

      Who needs an election ? We’ve got Newspoll.

    • john says:

      07:08pm | 25/02/12

      Regardless who wins Monday.

      Australia’s economic future is finished even if the liberals get in.

      In Australia if you work more than one hour a week your ‘employed’ - what a joke.

      Manufacturing is finished, wealthy business owners even if they were making money shifted manufacturing to china to make more, we have been sold out.. Besides, China’s bubble is popping, mining will go to cheaper sourced countries. They only want our food security and will buy up farms - and we will pay more for groceries.

      Houses are 10 times compared to 3 times average wage affordability. We will see ghost suburbs like in the US.

      We are in economic decline and going into debt $100 million dollars A DAY.
      Swany & labor are just creative accounting to ‘make’ a surplus for the media come budget day.

      We are going down the toilet like the rest of the western world.

      Liberals sold all the assets for a song long ago and Labor has broken the piggy bank and spent everything including the kitchen sink.

      Here come the taxes…with more to come.

      Interest rates are starting to climb. Petrol is going to be at least $2.00 ltr with the mid-east crises escalating & spreading by the day.

      Its getting impossible to borrow money EVEN with a 20% deposit for a home loan for houses that are the most expensive on the planet.

      We are going the way of the PIGS in Europe.

      Mining wont save us because the bulk of the profits go overseas.

      Wake up Australia. Abandon or go down with the ship or die trying to survive waiting for that day that will never come to be rescued from your economic life boat.

    • Dan Webster says:

      08:08pm | 25/02/12

      Labour need a head kicker as leader, not a liar.
      I reckon Rudd is ready to kick some heads.

      Too bad it won’t help the country in any way.

    • John F says:

      08:25pm | 25/02/12

      The Gillard is in trouble on Monday…......

    • Neil Glanville says:

      09:17pm | 25/02/12

      The problem Rudd has is he is not aligned to any factions and unions and thus is not in the clique. Most of the Labor heavyweights come from a union background where self presevation rules supreme and stuff what the majority think and say. So unfortunatley we will be stuck with Gillard until we have an election.

    • Liberal Whiner says:

      09:46pm | 25/02/12

      Poor us, poor me, Saint Tony is def the next PM and will be for 50 years anyway… but for now… waaaahhh!

    • Jerra says:

      12:18am | 26/02/12

      Rudd’s only real problem is that he exhibits poor leadership skills.  At some point you have to delegate in such a large organization to get things actually done.  By micromanaging, he displayed a lack of trust in his subordinates. We all know nothing good ever comes out of that.

    • Jay Eltoro says:

      12:38am | 26/02/12

      Neil, you’re correct, but its only the tip of the iceberg.
      From the day that Rudd and Gillard rolled Beazley, Gillard’s supporters let everyone within cooee know that Rudd had only been made leader by Gillard’s votes. Crean, Feeney, Conoy et al all made it known to their acolytes in and out of parliament that despite fears about Rudd’s non union background and his avowed dislike for the factions, that Gillard was the power behind the throne, and if Rudd proved impossible to work with ie that is didn’t show enough “respect” for factional leaders and union heavyweights ,he would easily be rolled.

      Rudd’s first 12 months as PM were excellent, and although there were some niggles within the factions that they didn’t have his ear when they wanted it, the widespread view was that the man won elections, and like other gargantuan ego’s like Hawke and even Whitlam, could be tolerated as a means to an end.

      Unfortunately for Rudd, and the Government, when Turnbull became leader it was a true gamechanger. Now Rudd was facing off against someone as media savvy and almost as personally popular as him. Rudd became more and more focused on media opportunities to combat this and began obsessively watching the polls. The honeymoon was truly over.

      Then the Godwin Gretch fiasco. When Rudd and the government learned that a campaign was being waged by the Liberal dirt unit, headed by the parties number one stormtrooper Eric Abetz, to taint Rudd and Swan, with the help of a civil servant supergrass, Rudd went to the mattresses. Rudd’s office began micro managing, poring over policy, delaying decisions until Rudd could check them for threat of future fall outs.

      This, along with the school halls beat up and the tragic deaths of several people in fires related to the home insulation scheme, confirmed all of Rudds fears about his ministerial team. Before taking office, Rudd was worried that the only person in his Government who had served as a minister of the crown before was slimin Simon Crean. These disasters meant that Rudd began to considerably shorten the long leash any Prime Minister puts his ministers on, especially in a first term government.

      Of course this didn’t sit well with Crean and other big ego’s in the government. Rather than being praised for taking control of the problems Rudd was immediately painted as a control freak par excellence who was now trying to run the country from within his office.

      The government became increasingly paranoid about leaks, public service and otherwise, and Rudd and his office adopted a siege mentality. The Australian, and the murdoch press in general were being used by the leakers as the chief conduit for complaints about the government, and the Kevin 24/7 image was being used by Rudds enemies to paint the PM as a obsessive control freak who trusted no one but himself to get the job done. This was quite a sudden turnaround from the 2007 election when Murdoch press supported Rudd and Labor against the conservatives.

      At this stage Crean and his cronies increased their whispering campaign. And reminding people, as he did this week in the press, Rudd only got there through Gillard and her supporters “and the votes we gave him”.

      Sensing an opportunity to flex her muscle Gillard began saying no to Rudd. Abbott may hold the title of Dr No now, but it is really Gillard who was the queen in the last year of the Rudd government. No to pension increases etc. No to taking over the health system, something she and Latham had planned years earlier, and something that was Labor policy at the 2007 election. And crucially, no to the ETS.

      This wasn’t just any no. This was a line in the sand, and a direct challenge to Rudd’s leadership. Gillard told Rudd that she would not tolerate “under any circumstances” the ETS being on the agenda in the political climate of 2011, that it should be junked unless Tony Abbott changed his mind, and that as that was unlikely to happen, it should be delayed until they could foresee another Liberal leader who will support it, say three years time. Swan supported her. Tanner and Wong sided with Rudd.

      Tanner held a hotly contested seat in inner city Melbourne, which was under threat from the greens at the forthcoming election. He knew that unless an ETS or a carbon tax was on the Labor agenda it was curtains for him. When the ETS was shelved, thanks to Gillard’s ultimatum, Tanner knew he had as good as lost his seat then and there. When she took the leadership,she campaigned on the platform of junking the ETS. Tanner knew a Gillard Prime Ministership was the deathnell of his career in politics. Gillard knew this too, and knew she was killing off not one but two leadership rivals in one fell swoop.

    • Kat says:

      10:40am | 26/02/12

      WOW!

      I await someone to shoot down your views expressed here with dispassion, to spew vitriole and attempt to discredit this account you offer.

      Thank you for a considered and reasoned analysis that posits the motivations in the context of the events as they unfolded.

      There has been too much selective amnesia in this discussion.

    • Mouse says:

      12:42pm | 26/02/12

      Excellent post!  Well thoughtout and written.

      Rudd was his own worst enemy, not being a puppet and having the impudence to actually have his own agenda. Whether you like him or hate him, he was never going to succeed as PM because he wasn’t a Union or factions lapdog. 

      I also agree that gillard was the shadow put there by the Unions and factions.  Her job was to direct the flow and movement of Labor policy and “guide” Rudd as the PM.  She was not considered for the leadership because she doesn’t have a likable PM personality like Rudd and Labor would never have done as well with the voters as it did in 2007. This was shown in 2010. Regardless of the carbon tax, Rudd would more than likely have won outright, no hung parliament. . 

      She is driven, duplicitous and conniving and has worked hard to get where she is. Beware the people that stand in her way!

    • Eye Witness says:

      02:20pm | 26/02/12

      Thats pretty much the truth…Well written piece.

    • sunny says:

      10:44pm | 26/02/12

      Could it have been that in 2010 she and some other pragmatic people in the party saw the need to wait for a more favourable Senate (and going on recent revelations - a more capable PM) seeing as they had already tried and failed (was it twice?) to get the ETS through in late 2009? Not to mention that the mongrel Greens sided with the Libs against it in the Senate - they couldn’t make amendments to please one party without displeasing the other. The Libs had clearly walked away from the bipartisan commitment to it with the arrival of Tony Abbott at the helm!

      @Mouse “This was shown in 2010. Regardless of the carbon tax, Rudd would more than likely have won outright, no hung parliament. ” Gillard was actually cruising to victory in 2010 until Rudd launched the above “leak” torpedo into her midships during the election campaign.

      Did Tanner have the option to stand against Gillard in the ballot that saw the end of Rudd? Subsequently there was no ballot because Rudd resigned, but would Tanner have nominated if it went ahead? In fact he was not Gillard’s leadership rival - he has said he had planned to retire well before the leadership changed hands.

      I think Gillard’s motivation was (and is) the strategy to get legislation through both houses, not personal ambition.. but “I await someone to shoot down (my) views expressed here with dispassion”

    • Jay Eltoro says:

      12:39am | 26/02/12

      As such, Tanner could not and would not bring himself to work under Gillard or to even campaign for the re election of the Government with her as leader.  Anyone interested in body language can have a look at Tanners final speech to parliament the afternoon of the coup. Tanner not only refuses to look at Gillard when he resumes his seat and she leans forward to congratulate him, he even refuses her hand from among the well wishers gathering around him. The contempt for her is there for all to see.

      There are many inside Labor who believe it was Tanner who was responsible for the leaks about the ETS, and several others during the 2011 election campaign. Rudd was terribly ill. Gall stones were the reason, but there were also complications. I can assure you, Rudd was not in any state to be briefing the press. Tanner however, blamed Gillard for Labor junking the ETS, which he knew would lose him green tinged seat in Melbourne. If your looking for a bomb thrower, always look for someone well enough away from the place where it detonates. Like retirement. But Crean and others have continued to blame Rudd for the leaks because it plays into their current narrative of Rudd as wrecker, leaker, psychopath.

      The truth is, as Kevin would say, a lot more complicated than that. Kevin Rudd has sworn to never tell anyone about other unsettling events that took place during his tenure as PM. Rest assured, if he did, Julia Gillard would never again even lead a horse to water let alone the nation. But Rudd has more respect for the office than Gillard, Crean, Feeney etc have. And he doesn’t want to traumatise the country completely. But believe that for him to try to unseat Gillard now, it is only because he believes she is not fit to serve as PM.

    • sunny says:

      11:03pm | 26/02/12

      John Faulkner actually approached Kevin Rudd during the election campaign to ask him to stop the leaks. I’m not sure the sequence of events but I think he was offered foreign affairs in return for that and to start campaigning for the party. Whether or not it was Kev directly responsible for them, or his staffers, the leaks stopped after that.

      And secondly if anyone told me that Lindsay Tanner was responsible for doing that I would absolutely NOT believe it.

    • Bemused voter says:

      01:11am | 26/02/12

      With albanese siding with Rudd and gillard refusing to take his resignation you can see how desperate the pm has become. Sorry Julia but as a female voter I am frankly sick of the patronizing slow speech you adopt to the punters like we all have some intellectual disability. We all basically hate you and your head kickers. A pm of the people I don’t think so. Blame it on headkicker crean etc we don’t like a former pm elected by the people being trashed. Who do you think you are? Go away you should lose Monday and if you don’t then it will be stage 2 warfare. Resign now

    • marley says:

      07:56am | 26/02/12

      @bemused voter - so, it’s wrong for the caucus to trash PM Rudd, but it would be fine for caucus to trash PM Gillard.  Interesting set of values.

    • Bemused says:

      01:36am | 26/02/12

      Can you please bloody well display things in chronoligical and time order

    • Jake and Elwood says:

      10:36am | 26/02/12

      Country and Western ?

    • M C says:

      02:53am | 26/02/12

      Labor, spell it backwards r-o-b-a-l, Gillard, Krudd, and the loopy Green crap, the worst Government that I have ever witnessed in my 68 years of life. I remember when they threw full milk cartons at that idiot goofy Witless Whitlam who wrecked Australia, Krudd head and that dopey Welsh dragon Dillard are ten times worse. I will vote for Mr Abbott , a decent highly principled man, a volenteer fire fighter, charity , and community worker, genuine, sincere, respectful man , and I am a women and I think he is wonderful man.

    • Bryan Leslie says:

      03:54am | 26/02/12

      My old man always told me this….if you have a brain vote Liberal. I would say to the Liberal party, if you have a brain get rid of Abbott and Hockey. No Good

    • Ripped off taxpayer says:

      10:05am | 26/02/12

      I have a feeling that despite Rudds efforts that the corruption (Union MP’s) in the labor government will ensure that Julia Gillard stays in power as the political front puppet she was always intended to be.

      What they are failing to realise is that due to their unprofessional and disrespectful managing of the house of PM, that come next election the Liberal party could have Ronald Mcdonald as PM and Hamburgerlar as tresurerer and still give labor the monumental landslide loss the deserve (this is the house of PM, not president of the local cake baking club).

      Boot them out on their arse!!

    • Warwick says:

      07:19am | 26/02/12

      So, ,what we all thought is still true.  The bloke is a power hungry, obsessive egomaniac, who, by all accounts wanted to spend more money than was in budget ( a la ALP ) on stuff that overtook current issues.  Julia is not that much different, is she?

    • PaxUs says:

      10:29am | 26/02/12

      I’m still holding that he was knifed due to his mining tax/super profits tax. That would have hurt the people with the power and the people with the power run our political parties. The ‘unworkable’ PM excuse just doesn’t cut it.  Follow the money trail as they say.

    • Paul says:

      11:13am | 26/02/12

      Knowing Labor polititions as well as anyone could,I wouldn’t believe that these stories about Kevin Rudd are lies and only fabricated by them as an excuse to topple him as PM.We have seen the lies from Gillard and her cowardly assasins almost daily since they did the dirty on their own leader.They have shown us constantly that they cannot be trusted or believed so how do they think that we would believe this tall tale.

    • Jay eltoro says:

      12:23pm | 26/02/12

      Pax, you have hit the nail on the head. Rudd refers to the events of june 2010 as a coup. This is an alarmingly accurate description. It was as much a coup by vested interests as whitlams removal from office in ‘75. Rudd was removed from office by a cabal of union thugs, party appartchiks and the big end of town. The very night rudd was removed he addressed a reception at parliament house which included big wigs in the mining industry. Rudd discussed the advertising campaign funded by big mining and the pressure he and the government were under to dump the tax, or at least weaken it considerably. He directly addressed the elephant in the room and told the assembled reps of mining
      that he and the government had “a long memory”.  This was the final straw for the mining industry, and their friends in government. Calls were made immediately, and soon Julia was literally knocking at Kevins door to call for a leadership spill. The chatter, and backroom discussions had been going on for months. The mining tax was the most contentious recommendation of the Henry tax review. Rudd had chosen to adopt it as party policy to counter allegations from within government and in the press that he and the government had lost their mojo. After being rolled on the ETS by Gilllard, Rudd saw it as a opportunity to wrest the momentum back from her and her acolytes and put paid to the charge that he was unable to get things done by taking on and prosecuting a big reform. Gillard and her forces were more than happy when the mining industry began to wage war on Rudd and the Government, and even happier when Rudd personalised the issue by identifying himself and his reformist credentails with the tax.
      When gillard assumed the prime ministership the fisrt thing she did was water down the tax, exempting several of the biggest players, and effectively junking what was a substantial reform to make nice with a powerful lobby group. The same lobby group that had swayed Gillard and Swan to roll Rudd, Wong and Tanner over the ETS.
      When gillard had to negotiate an ETS to buy the support of the Greens, she again watered it down as much as possible, whilst still doing what she had to to gain power.
      This was a calculated,  cold blooded, clinical coup of the first order. The mining lobby was back where they have become used to being, in the tent,  pissing wildly when things dont go their way, opening their pockets to take in any government largesse and throwing tantrums like an incontinent two year old when things dont go their way.

    • Suzy says:

      01:25pm | 26/02/12

      Let’s have this published.  I’d buy it.

    • Andrew says:

      04:42pm | 26/02/12

      Labor have never been able to fiscally govern properly (except for when Keating was treasurer for a while). All they ever do is fill the union pockets with cash from their useless infrastructure spending. At least Howard stemmed the tide a little, after the Hawk era when so much manufacturing left our shores, because manufacturing doesn’t line union pockets any where near as much as infrastructure spending, cause it’s all shiny and new!!
      So how do they pay for all this cash they waste… tax tax tax. Of course they can’t raise income tax so they do it indirectly. Tell me one useful thing the carbon or mining taxes will do for this country’s air (or otherwise) that cannot be done with good fiscal management.
      I they owned a business they would be bankrupt many times over, but we are the donkeys (as they see us) who bail them out. When will Labor voters realize these guys have no interest other than self interest. Business needs to flourish in order for employment to be abundant.
      I feel so sorry for the workers (and communities) at Bluescope, Alcoa, Bosch, Heinz, Toyota, Mistubishi… just to name a few Labor really looked after you.
      As for the Green (Red on the inside) party, as long as Bob Brown gets his pension he doesn’t care about anyone.
      People vote liberal, they may not be perfect, but they will act in the best overall interests of our great country.

    • Tanya says:

      05:29pm | 26/02/12

      Let’s assume for a minute that this paper contains the real reason Kevin Rudd was knifed and that it is not about factions and ‘faceless’ people whom he refused to kowtow to. Why weren’t Australians simply made aware of this and Kevin Rudd given the right of reply? What was there to hide? Why the stealth?

    • Luke says:

      11:07pm | 26/02/12

      This is all stuff i was saying about him before, during and after he became prime minister…
      Rudd was all talk of a cooperative labor party which was not a reality… I have to admit though… he is STILL better than Julia Gillard

    • Susan says:

      07:42am | 27/02/12

      Kevin Rudd was knife by the faceless men because he would not agree to a pay rise so they put Julia Gillard in because they knew she would agree to their pay rise which she did.
      Faceless men and PM Gillard how can you sleep at night with all the back stabbing going on.
      The greed of the few is out-weighed by the needs of the many!
      Wake up… our vote counts and you will not be in power without it. Vote for Rudd.

    • Josh says:

      11:03am | 27/02/12

      I find this article fascinating. In years past I worked with a former friend inside a small business, where we worked long hours - but the business ultimately failed. He (as the CEO) personified every trait as described above, and I can tell you it makes it impossible to succeed. I can understand Labor’s reluctance to bring Rudd back.

    • cat says:

      12:26pm | 27/02/12

      If Mr Rudd was as bad as what’s been said about him, WHY, was he given’’ the leadership?  Would those team members not have seen how he worked?  What does this say about them?  Using poster boy and dispose him when done with him?  Mr Rudd, move on.  Labor Party do not deserve you.

    • Cyn says:

      01:09pm | 27/02/12

      Hilarious! K RUDD as maniacal serial killer decapitating boss Mr Reddman in REDD INC - http://on.fb.me/wl3vII - can’t wait to watch it at the Aus Film Fest now that I know it won’t come true! Well Done Julia, you’ve ‘kept your head’ when all others have lost theirs… this whole debacle is madness itself!

    • jolly says:

      10:35pm | 27/02/12

      Expect us to buy any of this stuff? First hand information about Rudd, it seems. Now, after the ballot, Gillard says Rudd’s legacy needs to be preserved and that he did great things. Believe this spin from Gillard? When she was challenged, she called for a ballot. Was Rudd given this opportunity then? Whatever Gillard or her henchmen say now is sooooo lacking in credibility. Pre-Gillard Labor has been known for great ideas and enlightened reforms. Past Labor governments were also responsible for our world renown Harbor bridge, the opera house, the Sydney uni, etc, etc. Now the present Labor is famous for treachery and personal attacks on its own party members. The Gillard Labor eats its own. Beware!! Nothing will save Labor. Hope our past decent Labor PMs (Hawke, Keating, et al) will keep out of this mess and refrain on commenting on Gillard-Rudd saga. It will only serve to sully the whole history of Labor. I have moved away from Labor, at least let me retain the memory of the good old days when policies mattered, when public humiliation of party members was not the norm. Labor in those days never ate its own. Those days are gone and so has my support for Labor. The demise of Gillard Labor is eminent, both in Queensland (soon) and federally at the next election. This is a given

    • Don C says:

      07:11am | 28/02/12

      “she called for a ballot. Was Rudd given this opportunity then?”

      Yes. 

      Have you forgotten? All well publicised in 2010.

      But when the Ballot was called, Rudd decided not to nominate and said so before hand.

      In effect, as he now says himself, he resigned.  Because he had no support left.  He was right to do so.

      In the heat of the moment last week, he referred to the Party Room as a “coup”. It was not.  It was quite wrong and quite discreditable to him to make that claim. 

      Typical of the real man, though. In fact he lost the confidence of his Party Room and resigned. Says so himself.

    • jolly says:

      10:52pm | 27/02/12

      Gillard has kept her head? Getting her henchmen to character assassinate our former PM is keeping her head? Cyn, don’t know where you get your moral compass from. Perhaps Rudd should seek legal action. Crean behaved like a creep. So did all other Gillard henchmen/women. If the battle was with Gillard & Rudd, she as the PM should have pulled in her troop and made them think about the Party and its long term survival. Eating her own member is certainly ‘unmotherly’. But again what will Gillard know about any of this. She was only lusting for the top job. To hell with the damage to Party. Gillard has destroyed Labor. It took women to do this. Hurray! Well done Julia!

    • george says:

      11:08am | 28/02/12

      Julia Gillard has never won and will never win a general election and the sooner the ALP accept that fact the better,this leadership battle is far from over.She is the worst Prime minister this country has been forced upon us,we did not vote for her she was forced upon us by the unions.She states that she Knifed Kevin because of the polls ,well Julia look at your polls, they are horrific and if the ALP go to the next election with Julia “which i doubt” they will be decimated,as bad as Abbott is Julia is political poison.

    • youdy beaudy says:

      12:46pm | 28/02/12

      But George, didn’t you know that she won the last election even tho by one seat, still a win and made it able for her to form a government. The balance of power lay with the independents who supported her and gave her a bigger majority to carry on as PM. And guess what!, she just won again on Monday. Maybe i am one day early. But she won and won well. What more do people want, blood.

      Now, she is not the worst Prime Minister we have ever had. The worst one was John Winston Howard, remember him.!  Yes, he was definately the worst and guess what, his mate Tony Abbott who would be PM will be the second worst if he gets in. I don’t think that his party likes him very much at all, so a leadership challenge will come to him before the next election.

 

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