We hear a lot about the so-called two-speed economy these days but Julia Gillard is grappling with a more immediate problem, a two-speed electorate.

Julia Gillard on her way to visit the Governor-General to call the election this morning. Photo: Kym Smith

In fact it is `the’ challenge vexing the new PM and her strategists and probably goes a long way to explaining her last minute hesitation in actually pulling the election trigger.

First, to the economic side.  This week we saw more evidence of the perverse effects of that two-speed economy via an extraordinary _ for which you can read transparently political _ economic ``update’’ just two months after the May Budget.

We learned for example, that Australia’s growth forecast has been down-graded albeit fractionally _ from an expected 3.25 per cent this year to 3.0 per cent. Yet curiously, despite this more modest expansion, the jobless rate will continue to drop from its already super low 5.1 per cent, down to 4.75 per cent later next year.

This is, to all intents and purposes, full employment and it is truly remarkable given the experiences of comparable economies in the wake of the global financial crisis. On top of this, Australian Government net debt is set to peak at just 6.0 per cent in 2011-12 and come back to 5.3 percent after that.

This compares with chronic debt and deficit problems abroad and an average collective net debt of over 94 per cent for other major advanced economies. So strong is Australia’s performance that the federal Budget will now stride more confidently back into the black by 2012-13.

What was a relatively pale projected surplus of $1.0 billion in that year has already been tripled to $3.1 billion. The basis for Treasury’s new optimism? In a word, China. Demand from China principally, is the key to the two-speed economy. It explains how Julia Gillard was able to stitch up a deal with the miners which was markedly more gentle on them than the tax Kevin Rudd was pursuing and yet which still comes close to achieving the same revenue target. And it explains how even as ordinary consumers close their wallets and worry about the future, a classic portent of a contraction, employment grows and revenue floods the federal coffers.

This brings us to the two-speed electorate. Just as the two economies make policy settings problematic _ the booming export driven resources sector and the far less robust domestic economy _ there are two distinct groups in the community as well. And Labor needs big chunks of both to retain office.

These constituencies are on the one hand, the leafy, mostly tertiary educated inner cities, and on the other, the sprawling outer-suburbs of our major centres where most people live and where many marginal seats are located. In the former, comparatively comfortable voters worry about the big issues of principle such as social justice for refugees and global warming.

They willingly recycle their bottles and newspapers, watch the ABC, and may even take in the odd foreign language film. They are global citizens and were disappointed with the outcome at Copenhagen and rocked further by Labor’s subsequent going to water on the issue. In previously safe Labor seats like federal Melbourne, Grayndler, and federal Sydney, some are thinking of voting Greens.

In the case of the latter, the teeming masses in the middle to outer-suburbs typically live more work-a-day lives. Many of these people resent being told how well the economy’s travelling because they feel they are missing out. Their concerns tend to be more earthly as they grapple with rising costs for food, petrol, public transport and housing. It is here that, according to the research of both major parties, ``anxieties’’ are higher too about supposedly queue-jumping boat people and it is here that these concerns are conflated with greviances over straining transport and health infrastructure, and a generalised feeling of being left behind.

Reasonable or not, Julia Gillard’s challenge is to address these concerns and design a political message that keeps as many of these anxious voters in the Labor tent. Hence her moves to toughen border protection rhetoric and embrace what is basically a re-packaged version of John Howard’s ``Pacific solution’’ by using third country processing of refugee applications.

The trick is to craft a manifesto agreeable to two very different constituencies who favour polar opposite policies and regard each other as either rednecks and xenophobes or latte-sipping lefties.

If there is an answer to this diabolical conundrum, my guess is that it lay in the idea of ``sustainabilty’‘. And the signs are already there. Kevin Rudd’s ``big Australia’’ is out of favour as is his recently crowned idea of a population minister. Julia Gillard’s first act was to re-title and presumably re-task Tony Burke as Minister for ``Sustainable’’ Population. It is small but important difference and one designed to send a very different message even if it is audible mainly to dogs. Ditto the quick and spirited defence of those ordinary folk in the `burbs who feel nervous about being overrun. They are not racists, Ms Gillard re-assured them even before being sworn in.

If there is a small area of overlap in the right v left or inner-cities v outer-suburbs, it is in the view that the environment is under stretch from population pressure.

Thus Ms Gillard will look to bridge the two communities under the intellectually respectable rubrik of sustainability: sustainable environment / sustainable energy / sustainable population. We are already being invited to embrace the future and to move forward. She has been hammering this theme now for some time. But this is just the rhetorical ground-tilling. Expect to hear plenty about the concept of sustainability too between now and polling day. It’s a message carefully calibrated to mean different things to different people.

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    • Against the Man says:

      01:19pm | 17/07/10

      Rewind 2007 -> Remember Kevin 07’s promises and achievements? Gillard is a fine actor playing the role of a competent politician, but remember she was side by side with Kevin and retains Swan to manage this economy. A Spendathon with not much results and higher taxes to pay for it all. Labor has had it chance and screwed up. Gillard back stabbed Kevin and will not care about policies that affect Australian once she gets elected. The selfish it is all about me mentality is pure yuck.

    • Scot says:

      11:36am | 19/07/10

      I am not voting for a caretaker Labor Prime Minister that stabbed in the back the PM that we voted for. The Gang of Four and the faceless men of Labor NSW, Vic and SA. What guarantee do we have that these men will not do the same thing again when they if they do not like any Labor PM. Just like they have done in NSW over 15 years and destroyed NSW into a third world state.

    • John A Neve says:

      02:34pm | 19/07/10

      Scot,

      What world are you from?  The actions of both Labor and Liberal have not changed in the last 20 years.
      When it comes to Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum, history just keeps repeating itself.
      If you really want change?  Look at all the other options the dynaic duo aren’t the only game in town.

    • Brad Price says:

      01:28pm | 17/07/10

      Shark eyes has just proven this morning that by calling an early election she believes her Labor Government is on the outer.

      The spin and rhetoric is going to catch up with her. The bungling the lack of commitment to deliver on promises is farcicle. The dead albatross that hangs around her neck of Kevin Rudd will be her undoing. Rightly as it should!

    • Polywatcher says:

      02:06pm | 17/07/10

      Ms Gillards theme will be “Moving Forward” and Abbotts theme must obviously be ..“Look ! um um stutter Stutter”.
      Get used to both slogans voters because you are going to hear these slogans many times for the next five weeks and maybe beyond.

    • Chris says:

      03:28pm | 17/07/10

      So it’s all a matter of distance from the CBD? Wish I’d thought of that.

    • John L says:

      01:38pm | 17/07/10

      What filters will THE PUNCH spply to obviously party politcal commentsin this space during the campaign?

    • Troy says:

      01:48pm | 17/07/10

      I have already made my decision. Australia cant afford a Labor Government for another 3 years, and I like the majority of Australians believe we have had more than enough boats arriving in the last 3 years. Gillard fail on her boat people policy and the Mining Tax and her failed BER scheme are enough for me to change my vote in the next election back to the Liberals.

    • Gregg says:

      01:51pm | 17/07/10

      Words can often mean something!
      ” And the signs are already there. Kevin Rudd’s ``big Australia’’ is out of favour as is his recently crowned idea of a population minister. Julia Gillard’s first act was to re-title and presumably re-task Tony Burke as Minister for ``Sustainable’’ Population. It is small but important difference and one designed to send a very different message “
      And only the dim witted would read anything significant into the Ministerial title change and let us not forget that even though the big Australia came from a forecast more than any policy of Rudd’s and his initial reaction was that he was not against growth, he did use the language of sustainability in appointing Burke.
      And then there is the ommission of words and what that can indicate for when a question is put to a politician and no comment is the answer, are we to believe there is something there that could be commented on?
      Such as Prime Minister, ” it is alleged that in your session with Kevin Rudd you had reached an agreement, an agreement you then within hours had backed away from after consulting with your backers “
      What the Australian public is entitled to know is who in deed are the backers of Julia Gillard that she consulted with.
      We can expect to have many speeds of an economy when those in government and the treasurey it would seem have little knowledge of what figures they should have been using in making projections or are willing to gamble our nations budgetting on what could be with commodity prices in forward years for will that 7.5B windfall yet be another big black hole that we’re accustomed to seeing with Labor.
      Negotiating deals with major companies and ignoring the fall out for many smaller companies is also likely to impact on how well the economy runs.

    • Max Power says:

      01:53pm | 17/07/10

      There is a great example of Labor incompetence, unfortunately it has been kept hush by Labor. Most Australians are probably unaware that an Army Battalion is being relocated from Darwin to Adelaide. The Battalion is due to be relocated at the end of the year to RAAF Base Edinburgh, 30km North of Adelaide. Due to massive incompetence and bungling by this Labor Govt, the on base living in accommodation for the 1000 odd soldiers moving here will not be ready. So bad is the incompetence from this Labor Govt, Australian taxpayers are having to pay $100’s of millions dollars more to build temporary on base living in accommodation for the Soldiers to live in. The proper permanent accommodation was due to be ready at the end of 2010, but due to Labor incompetence, bungling and lack of decision making will not be ready until the end of 2012.  This stuff up is all due to the fact that no one in the Labor Govt was able to make a decision for months. As a result Australian Taxpayers have been hit with a massive new bill and Australian soldiers will have to live in temporary accommodation which is of a lesser standard than the permanent accommodation they should be living in.

    • Anniebello says:

      10:19pm | 17/07/10

      Why are so many soldiers being moved to SA? Are you guys in danger of being invaded by penquins? Why can’t they stay in Darwin until the new accomodations are built? Of course, Julia needs the permanent buildings in Darwin for her boating ‘friends’ and future Labor voters. Yeah, let the Aussie diggers live in tents. More Labor cover-ups! Thanks for bringing this to our attention, Max.

    • smackin says:

      03:49pm | 18/07/10

      Again; The Punch becomes a sounding off board for partisan politics rather than actually ‘debating’ issues. The movement of an infantry battalion from Darwin to Adelaide has been on the cards for years, and the first substantial movement on it came…thats right listeners; during the Howard government. This is not a bungle on the Labor party behalf, nor one on the Liberal - but on government as a whole, stuffing up what should be a fairly simple procurement process, made complex by Defence procurement policy.

      It is oversimplification of a complex issue to say that this was due to Labor incompetence - take your partisan lenses off for five minutes will you?

    • TrueOz says:

      01:54pm | 17/07/10

      Don’t let Joolya foolya.

    • Steve_of_Cornubia says:

      02:02pm | 17/07/10

      Labor can claim no responsibility for our remarkably low debt, which is due solely to the efforts of the previous Liberal Government. All Labor have done since then is plunder the piggy bank and spend, spend, spend.

      Conversely, just imagine where we would be now if we had just had three terms of Labor Government. History shows, here and overseas (i.e. the UK) that Labor/Labour only know how to spend money. So, Kevin ‘07and Gillard would have been stuffed when the GFC came along, just like the UK was, with already high levels of debt and only one way to raise stimulus dollars - even more debt.

      Doubtless the political/economic cycle will continue to turn. Labor will be re-elected because most people believe we’re still tracking OK. The Libs will be re-elected only when the economy tanks under debt and spending, to restore some fiscal common sense.

    • Richard says:

      02:05pm | 17/07/10

      I haven’t got too much faith that the “federal Budget will stride confidently back into the black by 2012-13,” no matter who wins the election. The Baltic Dry Index measuring world shipping is dropping like a stone, exports of coal and iron ore to China are falling and commodity prices are softening. We haven’t had recession yet, not because of the government’s drunken sailor stimuli spree like Labor want us to believe, but because of China buying our resources hand over fist at record high prices. If this comes to an end, or even slows down a little, kiss goodbye to that never-never fantasy land surplus story sold to us by the discredited Treasury department.

    • Gregg says:

      10:51pm | 17/07/10

      Yes, the Dominoes are still toppling Richard and in China they are resorting to domestic discounting to keep factory demands up and that can also only lead to one thing >>>>>> banks will be loaning more to people who have possibly only ever had minimal loans in their life and then they’ll have a load of toxic assets too.
      Fantasy dreamtime will fast become a nightmare.

    • mid says:

      02:13pm | 17/07/10

      Funny, by the time you strip away the rhetoric of the first 2 comments, you get left with absolutely zip.

      I have a feeling this election lead up is going to be a nightmare (and a boring one to boot).

    • JT says:

      02:16pm | 17/07/10

      Julia has got one thing right today, it is time to move forward…from Labor.

    • Against the Man says:

      04:24pm | 17/07/10

      Funny she talks about moving forward when this Labor government has moved us 2 steps backwards…....

    • Bruno says:

      09:09pm | 17/07/10

      Labour brought us to the edge of the cliff.
      Imagine if we move forward…............

    • Louisa says:

      02:35pm | 17/07/10

      We must move forward and vote OUT the Labor Party

    • Marilyn Shepherd says:

      02:39pm | 17/07/10

      Except to use a third country for “processing’ breaks our own frigging laws, the refugee convention, the convention on civil and political rights, the convention on the rights of the child, the right to seek asylum and various other laws.

      I am sick to death of ignorant media whipping up this deranged lunacy over 9 people per day asking for our help and having the gall to claim we are being over run - 800,000 people a year wander in and out of our ports and we don’t have a clue who they are or where they come from.

      Most are foreign workers, many jump ship and stay and most don’t have any documents of entry.

      There are 50,000 people actually living illegally in our community with 80% of them being here for over a year and 25% for over 15 years.  They don’t have legal permission to stay, they are not applying for anything, they are just leeches but because they are mostly white we don’t care too much.

      QUESTION TAKEN ON NOTICE
      SUPPLEMENTARY BUDGET ESTIMATES HEARING: 20 OCTOBER 2009
      IMMIGRATION AND CITIZENSHIP PORTFOLIO
      (82) Program 2.1: Refugee and Humanitarian Assistance
      Senator Fierravanti-Wells asked:
      1. What is the definition of refugee according the UNHCR?
      2. What is the definition of refugee according to immigration law currently in force in
      Australia?
      3. Is the definition of refugee according to immigration law currently in force in
      Australia considered to be broader than the UNHCR definition?
      4. Does the UNHCR define the term “economic refugee”?
      Answer:
      1. The definition of a refugee, according to the Refugees Convention is a person
      who “owing to a well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion,
      nationality, membership of a particular social group, or political opinion, is outside the
      country of his nationality, and is unable to or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to avail
      himself of the protection of that country” (Article 1A of the 1951 Convention Relating
      to the Status of Refugees). The UNHCR has responsibility under Article 35 of the
      Refugees Convention for supervising the application of the provisions of the
      Refugees Convention.
      2. Under Section 36 of the Migration Act 1958, a criterion for a Protection visa is
      that the applicant for the visa is a non-citizen in Australia to whom the Minister is
      satisfied Australia has protection obligations under the Refugees Convention as
      amended by the Refugees Protocol.
      3. Australia’s definition of a refugee is not broader than the UNHCR definition.
      4. The UNHCR says that the term “economic refugee” is not correct, and that the
      accurate description of people who leave their country or place of residence because
      they want to seek a better life is ‘economic migrant’. The UNHCR defines economic
      migrants as migrants who ‘make a conscious choice to leave their country of origin
      and can return there without a problem. If things do not work out as they had hoped
      or if they get homesick, it is safe for them to return home’. (source: UNHCR website)

      And for all those whinging on an on about quotas and queues here is the big lie debunked.

      QUESTION TAKEN ON NOTICE
      SUPPLEMENTARY BUDGET ESTIMATES HEARING: 20 OCTOBER 2009
      IMMIGRATION AND CITIZENSHIP PORTFOLIO
      (80) Program 2.1: Refugee and Humanitarian Assistance
      Senator Fierravanti-Wells asked:
      In relation to the number of places allocated to non-UNHCR-registered asylum
      seekers, please provide a breakdown including:
      a. the number of places allocated to unauthorised arrivals by boat;
      b. the number of places allocated to unauthorised arrivals by air;
      c. the number of places allocated to persons who had arrived on a valid visa and
      then sought asylum;
      d. the number of places allocated to over-stayers who subsequently claimed
      asylum.
      Answer:
      Allocations, targets, or limits are not made in relation to Protection visas for asylum
      seekers. If all the criteria for a Protection visa are met, the visa will be granted and no
      distinction within the Program is made regarding the lawful status or arrival means of
      the applicant.
      Visas granted to asylum seekers in Australia are counted towards the Special
      Humanitarian component of the Humanitarian Program. In 2008–09, 2497
      humanitarian visas were granted to persons in Australia which were counted toward
      the overall humanitarian program outcome of 13 507 visas.

      Now why the hell this country has to make such a bullshit load of old cobblers about “everyone has the right to seek asylum” because we are cowards and racists is beyond me.

      It is not an “issue”, asylum seekers are human beings with the exact same human rights as us.

    • Brad Coward says:

      03:56pm | 17/07/10

      Go on and tell us what you really think, Marilyn !

      Did you know that you’re beautiful when you’re angry ?  It’s just such a pity that you’re always so darn angry.  Try Preparation H !

    • Peter Simmons says:

      06:14pm | 17/07/10

      What a diatribe of absolute rubbish by the ALP Staffer.

      The people who come by plane, or legally by other means have ID which can be verified.

      It is Labor who bought in easier methods to appeal deportation laws that allow these people to remain,  Marilyn.

      Get your facts right,  before making loads of irrelevant garbage.

    • Ben81 says:

      07:26pm | 17/07/10

      You’re like a broken record Marilyn.  Even if situations with Visa overstayers were 100 times worse (not that any of them are claiming refugee status, so you have no point there anyway), throwing around the numbers as if that somehow justifies handing over part of our refugee intake over to people smugglers is just plain stupidity.  End of story.
      There are hundreds of millions of people in the world that would fit the criteria for refugee status and we’re only ever going to be able to take in a miniscule amount of them, and we need to be 100% sure our resources are being used in the right places.

      If you want to ensure that boats keep arriving for political reasons then that’s your problem.  Too bad, so sad.  People like *you* are the ones making it an issue.

    • Gregg says:

      10:44pm | 17/07/10

      What a load of utter bullshit Marilyn and have a look at some figures available to everyone via the DIAC site.
      Are you so dense that you cannot look at a number of millions, yes millions of people in refugee centres in the region where current asylum seekers come from via boats [ and exactly the same should apply to those arriving by air ], and see that people with means are putting themselves in front of those in refugee centres without means to get preference for consideration?.
      What is wrong with asking why did these people not use some of their money to get themselves to a refugee centre?
      They are very very simple questions Marilyn.
      And you think that wanting to see the really most desperate from all around the planet considered first is cowardly and racist!
      You are the coward Marilyn, a coward in your own mind for not bothering to ask yourself pertinent questions and a Bigger Coward for wanting to take an easy way out.
      And how can it be racist wanting the many many different races in refugee camps to be considered.
      Wake up to yourself woman and stop making a fool out of yourself.

      And yes, just as asylum seekers may be human beings, what do you think those struck by abject poverty and trying to keep starving children alive are?
      Go and have a look at the state of people in refugee centres and then you may have an idea of where humanitarium need is most.
      And so we have other people here illegally etc., and do you not think DIAC do what they can to apprehend them for deportation.
      I suppose you would reckon if they have been able to avoid detection for five or ten years we ought to let them stay.
      Your attitude is just so sickening.

    • The Scarlet Pimpernel says:

      07:03pm | 18/07/10

      You might consider spending your time doing something useful, Marilyn. Perhaps knitting or crocheting.

      In any case, you are never going to change peoples’ minds on this subject whilst their quality of life is being eroded, cities becoming congested and infrastructure is insufficient. 

      Get your caucus buddies to fix those first and you may then see the type of empathy for illegal immigrants that you think is their due.

    • Marilyn Shepherd says:

      02:42pm | 17/07/10

      And for those whining about broken election promises - the worlds economy collapsed and our came within a hares whisker of doing the same thing.

      Without putting some things away and pushing others forward we would have an extra 300,000 people out of work, be in a recession and people really would have something to frigging whine about.

      I have never come across such a bunch of selfish, snivelling little shits in all my days - most of you are just a waste of space.

    • Michael says:

      03:38pm | 17/07/10

      Marilyn. 10/10 for quoting facts that give a real perspective to these issues.

      But, with the greatest respect, if you want to influence and change opinion then the personal attacks don’t help.

      Back to the GFC. The critics of Rudd’s response should do more than carp. It’d be more interesting if they put forward what was a viable alternative. The Government’s response definitely had flaws but I think any considered response has to acknowledge that there were benefits, even in just holding up consumer confidence and the building industry.

    • Brad Coward says:

      03:52pm | 17/07/10

      Marilyn, glad to see that you received my gift of a jumbo sized bottle of happy pills !

      I can tell by your heartwarming comments that the pills are working a treat and that you’ve become a warmer, more pleasant woman.  Now say something nice about Ms Gillard for the nice people !

      God bless you, Marilyn !

    • Jason CR says:

      05:29pm | 17/07/10

      Speaking of a waste of space, your last two posts come straight to mind.
      300,000 extra out of work???  Who told you that, Julia?  hahaha

    • MarK says:

      05:34pm | 17/07/10

      Yes Marilyn. It was everyone and everthing else that made Gillard and Rudd so ineffectual. Keep thinking that. Life will be a breeze for you.

    • Aitch B says:

      05:38pm | 17/07/10

      Marilyn: Once again your vitriol detracts from your message. How about you drop the abuse…. maybe readers will consider what you have to say rather than dismiss it out out of hand after reading your second post.

    • Bleary says:

      05:58pm | 17/07/10

      Take a chill pill babe,you are starting to scare the kiddies.Democracy means that we can disagree without calling people silly names,you are making a fool of yourself.

    • Nicole says:

      06:08pm | 17/07/10

      Nice to see you’re doing what you do best Marilyn, spitting venom. And just what makes your opinion so much more important and meaningful than us ‘little shits’ and ‘waste of space’? You dear are laughed upon, and very few people take what you dribble seriously. Honestly, I don’t know what’s eating you, but I’d bet my house that it’s suffering terribly.

    • rastus says:

      06:55pm | 17/07/10

      remember under the coalition the “markets” would decide

    • iansand says:

      07:44pm | 17/07/10

      It is an odd mindset that sets up demonstrable success as a negative.  It was probably the Howard/Costello surplus, coupled with China, coupled with the stimulus package that saved us from the financial wasteland.  Anyone who is prepared to say that one or more of those things had no effect is FITH*

      *Acronym for Deranged In The Head.

    • Gregg says:

      11:14pm | 17/07/10

      So now you want us to believe you majored in global economics as well as humanitarium angeliness do you Marilyn?
      What a joke you are.
      If the world’s economy had collapsed we would be feeling the pinch a dam side more than we are because the King Krudd combo with the other Joker Julia did a cash splash as a knee jerker to financial markets strife that did cause quite some economic slowdown.
      But when collapse occurs you better know how to grow spuds and skin a kangaroo.
      A hares whisker indeed! and what will help put 300,000 and more out of work will be the likes of you with an intransient attitude to maximising workplace flexibility for when you have people in overseas workplaces earning a fraction of what wages in Australia are, how do you think Australian industry can compete?
      Yes, give it time and you’ll be whining the loudest and how much of a snivelling shit are you for I suppose you’re happy to keep earning what you do for probably not doing anything too productive while good people lose their jobs, something that could be minimised with flexible work practices and call it Work Choices if you like and one day not too far off you might just realise your backside is in fact on fire. 
      Aitchy, her message is just crap and Michael there are a number of worthwhile infrastructure projects instead of super speed Broadband, burning houses down and building school halls and libraries whether needed or not at exorbitant costs that could not just stimulate the economy but could have Australia in a far better position to weather future economic and enviromental storms.
      . An East Coast water grid from Gulf to the Murray
      And that could be as enormous in scope for alternate power, irrigation, shipping canals, decentralisation, indigenous employment as your mind may allow.
      For starters, think of the SMHES and a lot more of basic needs and nourishment than any 40B on fibre optics will ever provide even before it is out of date.

    • 4 Dead,not Julias Problem says:

      03:02pm | 17/07/10

      Sitting around the kitchen one morning with her besties,Kevin Rudd and two other idiots,a cunning plan was hatched,a bold scheme to insulate the planet,wary of each other they looked for a buffoon to scapegoat so they can take no responsibility when the plan went guts up,as you would expect from this administration,,,,,,,well let me tell ya how it went….4 dead,  and it was Julia who never said a word of comfort or took any responsibility,labor voters should vote against this cold,calculating assassin purely in protest of her lack of courage and reckless populus policy blunders,A Bonafide Disaster

    • Daniel White says:

      04:24pm | 17/07/10

      We will never find out who the real Julia Rudd is because she is just a sock puppet for the faceless men of the ALP. The electronic campign run by dirtbags like you as a pathetic indictment on the desperation of the ALP to smear rather than actually acomplish anything that will benefit Australia. I hope you fail.

      You are using the internet to spread information that your own website states does not have to be accurate. You are also supporting a party that want to suppress the freedom of speech by censoring the internet.. I do not trust anyone that supports the oppresion of opposing points of view. I hope you fail.

    • Jason CR says:

      05:34pm | 17/07/10

      Here we go - it didn’t take long… hmmmmm where have I seen this link before??

    • Aitch B says:

      05:43pm | 17/07/10

      Spreading the message I see, Alex. Very balanced stuff there…. NOT!!

      Bet you can’t wait until August 21st so you can spread the dirt in person outside the polling booths with your ALP HTV cards in hand!!

    • Fog Badger says:

      01:30pm | 18/07/10

      Strange times, Alex White. You seem to be multiplying.

    • MH says:

      05:34pm | 18/07/10

      Alex, do you feel any sense of shame whatsoever trawling random blogs to promote your feebly partisan little website?  Or did shame also cruelly abandon you when that crucial piece of the brain that permits independent said its final goodbyes?

    • Jason CR says:

      03:26pm | 17/07/10

      Brad,
      When big Laurie caught her out the other day at the press club, it was easy to see that behind those lifeless eyes were union thugs at the controls.  She is no different to Lil Kev in that she answers questions that suit her - then resorts to “moving forward, moving forward” when stumped. 
      Labor are on the nose in WA, Qld and parts of NSW.  The Liberal primary vote is very strong elsewhere and the voters are aware of cardboard cut-out leaders with incompetent ministers behind them. 
      I did rather like the ‘Pomeranian orange’ hairdo though.  Simply gorgeous le jools.

    • Peter Oataway, Hay, NSW says:

      04:01pm | 17/07/10

      Peak oil and sustainable large urban populations like Sydney & Melbourne do not mix, as fuel becomes more costly and harder to get, Australia will become a more agrarian society again; transport networks out to outer suburban oblivion no longer make sense, when the essence of sustainable population means spreading out in this vast continent rather than crowding by large seaside urban centres.

    • thatmosis says:

      06:58pm | 17/07/10

      Gee Marilyn thats just what I was thinking about you but then I remembered what my mother told me about people who are less fortunate than ourselves and that I should feel pity for them. So Marilyn I really really feel sorry for you and yours and hope that one day you will able to afford to see someone about the obvious love triangle between yourself,Joolia Gillrudd and the Union Puppet masters. You may have to wait about 7 years for an appointment as thats about the level that the various State Labor Governments have lowered the Hospital Standards to.

    • DD Ball says:

      07:12pm | 17/07/10

      Gillard is lying about her efforts, that is how she is able to bridge the polar opposite gap. She lies about mining tax and its impact on Australians, then he lies about what she has done with the tax. We find out they were really trying to grab about $20 billion before the Mining companies kicked up a big stink, and the ALP used that as a new figure when looking at the change, so a $1.5 billion discrepancy was reported for what was a more serious gouge. The ALP figures cannot be trusted and the treasury figures have been politicized. This allows the ALP to promise far more than the conservatves and still claim to be responsible.
      Gillard is also lying about what she will do for those polar ends in the social dichotomy. The lefty’s like the fact she is lying to them, it makes them feel comfortable that she will promise much but possibly be responsible if she has to be. This means they can feel good about choosing badly. The struggling working families will have to cling to the promise of a better life that will not be delivered by Gillard. The reality expressed by the conservatives will look uncomfortable compared to the promises of Gillard.
      But the truth is that although the economic vandals have badly damaged the Australian economy, it isn’t yet broken. But we need Mr Abbott to win government to allow it to heal.

    • steve says:

      07:40pm | 17/07/10

      Some young Liberal candidate in western Sydney, only in the job a few days, was out campaigning today when asked by a middle-ged man “what are you going to do about women covering their faces?”. I’m a Labor supporter and I’ll be voting for Julia Gillard. However, this is a question everyone is worried about, but which both Parties will do everything to avoid. Australia’s annual immigration intake has been a steady 2% of total population since 1970. Whoever gets in, the population will grow to 30 million in a ‘small’ Australia and to 45 million in a ‘big’ Australia. So, we also have a two-speed immigration expansion. Gillard is wise in aiming at a ‘small’ Australia.

    • BobM says:

      09:30pm | 17/07/10

      Gillard is not aiming for a ‘small’ Australia - she is saying what you want to hear, you numnut. She also says there won’t be any big spending under Labor - that’s because there’s no money left to spend. And she also says she’s a fiscal conservative - heard that one before?

    • Against the Man says:

      10:40pm | 17/07/10

      Hey BobM the people who vote labor are also the same people that con men love to target. They actually fell for Kevin 07’s con and now they are hook, line and sinker being sucked by Julia.

      Remember when Garrett said, ‘It doesn’t matter what we say, once we get elected we’ll do it our way.’

      Vote labor if you want a weak, poor and powerless Australia!

    • Timmo says:

      11:04am | 19/07/10

      Steve. Australia might be a big continent but most of the people can only live mainly on the coastline so if they want a big Australia they will obviously have to decentralize the population. I agree with you that they have to watch population growth, it’s not a competition to see how many people we can shove in here to be seen as the good guys of the universe.

      We have a very sensitive environment in this country that is our flora and fauna is already, and has been, under threat of degrees of extinction for many years and it would be quite easy for most of us to understand that further pressure on the environment is really out of the question in this country. It may be alright for other countries but we have to be very careful here as with our unusual and rare species of marsupials and other fauna and the uniqueness of our forests etc we have to be careful of over development. Also we have the big one, lack of water as well.

      Already with wrong farming methods and denuding of lands we have a big problem with salt and also our great rivers are under threat. Our rivers in Queensland feed the Southern States. The South East Queensland area is a typical area we should all look at as regards the failure of over population of what was once a much more beautiful area of Oz, and what should not be done. Too many people here and not even enough water to use. But they keep packing them in like sardines. They have taken a beautiful area of Australia and ruined it for the mighty dollar. All they have here is a big concrete jungle and it’s getting worse each day. Between Brisbane and the Gold Coast City it’s just a big traffic jam but the pollies up here just rub their hands together and look at the money. And they call it good Governance.

      Within 30 odd years from now south east Queensland will have one of the largest urban spralls in the world stretching from the Sunshine coast to the Qld NSW border and beyond, probably to Byron Bay. This has not only been predicted but is obvious to all. The distance and size of this is going to be a nightmare for everyone who lives here. It’s getting to the point where the place won’t be worth living in unless you are a concrete jungle man. It’s a disgrace,and Anna Bligh will tell you what a good Government Labor is in QLD. But the destruction of SE Qld was started back in the 7Os by the then National Party under Joe Bjelke Petersen. So really it doesn’t matter who runs it it’s just a form of insanity. These Government People need some serious help.

    • jamie says:

      08:37am | 18/07/10

      Australia needs to move forward because only gillard can make that forward movement and tony abbot can’t move forward because he doesnt know which way is forward and he just cannot move forward if he was elected so i think we should elect gillard so we can move forward towards a more forward tomorrow or something

    • Robert S McCormick says:

      11:46am | 18/07/10

      The Federal ALP Government was only able to keep Australia out of Recession because of the previous Howard/Costello Federal Coaltion Government. They left heaps of real money (cash) in the bank, They paid back the entire multi-billion dollar debt Paul Keating left behind him.
      Now we have no money in the bank, even bigger Great Big New Debts which make the ALP’s under Keating slide, just like Keating has, into irrelevance. These GBND’s of the ALP will take generations, to pay off. If they ever can be. As the Fed ALP Minister with the silliest title of all, Tony Burke (Minister for Sustainable Population) said on the ABC’s TV programme “Insiders” this morning,Sunday 18th July, “The Federal (ALP) Government lost it way”. It matters not who leads any Party. We should be basing our votes on the policies of those Parties not their leaders gender, likeability or lack of it!. Wayne Swan on Ch9 with Laurie Oates twittered on about Super GP Clinics. How many did they promise? Over 200. How many did we get? 2 or 3. They promised hundreds of more child-care places. How many did we get? None. The ALP was so keen to be seen to be ‘all things to all people’ that it lost sight of everything. They have only Fully achieved TWO things. Neither of which cost any money & were, of all their promises, very easy to achieve. They were: The Apology to the Stolen Generations and signing up to the Kyoto Protocol. The latter did cost a lot in First Class travel & accommodation for whomsoever signed up for Kyoto - can’t remember if it was the Gillard-assassinated Kevin Rudd or the worst, most ineffectual Minister any Federal Government has ever had since January 1900 Penny Wong of SA. She probably was part of the expensive junket. The documents could simply have been mailed to Canberra & returned the same way.
      The ALP have, once again, proven themselves to be incapable of doing anything without tipping Australia into an ever-deepening quagmire of totally unnecessary debt.

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      02:14pm | 18/07/10

      Robert S McCormick says:11:46am “The Federal ALP Government was only able to keep Australia out of Recession because of the previous Howard/Costello Federal Coaltion Government” well that is the biggest laugh of the decade. Sniveling liberals are not only Climate change deniers but are also GFC deniers. Infact the only policy the Liberals have is deny and oppose! not much substance there.

    • stephen says:

      01:04pm | 18/07/10

      Saw Julia on telly last night, and with a pearl necklace and her voice raised a couple of tones, she’s starting to appear like John Howard’s wife.
      For Labor, that’s bad, and if i were her, I’d ring Jen. Hawkins, (who’s gettin lessons on how ter speak from Deb. Hutton), and bring me voice back down ter the workin’ classes.
      And someone should tell our PM ter… ‘just relax, we know what yer like and that’s why we’re gonna vote for ya.’

    • Samuel J says:

      01:46pm | 18/07/10

      ‘Sustainable’ is not intellectually respectable. It is in fact a nonsense. No one knows what is sustainable and what is not sustainable. Ever since Malthus stated that the population of the world in the 18th century was too much, there has been talk of a lack of sustainability. If something is not sustainable, it won’t be sustained. But having governments second guessing something that is unknowable leads inevitably to policies that reduce the standard of living of those currently alive. If Governments followed Malthus’ advice, most of those alive today would never have existed.

    • Gregg says:

      10:19pm | 18/07/10

      Sammy, Sammy ol son, you are putting too much of an intellectual bent on it me thinks.
      Ask a farmer what the carrying capacity for stock in paddocks is before problems arise and sure that is the simplistic picture and you could say oh well we’ll just have more stock and a feed lot or house them in stalls like happens in some countries when paddocks are under a few feet of snow just like we could say ah1, plenty of water and just lets wack a few more dams in and just in case it might not rain for a few years we’ll build a few desalination plants and then because they are such a power consumer we’ll eventually have to think about another dirty coal fired power station heaven forbid.
      So yeah, onwards and upwards naturally is one approach but I suppose sustainable for many might mean taking into consideration when we leave natural for too high a reliance on technology for the greater the reliance the greater the risk and failure will be what will cause standard of living reductions for many and that already occurs when you look at commuting and the time of alternate lifestyle that absorbs.
      I agree there is much that could happen in Australia in respect to decentralisation but a damm lot of planning, conviction, convincing and action is needed for anything too remarkable to occur.

    • Timmo says:

      07:22pm | 18/07/10

      God help us. Do all you people who comment here about economies and investments and all that rubbish have any time to have a life. For God sake wake up you lot. Look, the truth is that whatever governments backside you lick it doesn’t matter. To them you are nothing. It’s all about ideologies and party politics, about big egoes from people who if they didn’t have these positions nobody would even give a rats about them. Tony Abbott, Julia Gillard important. well no one would give them a second look if they weren’t politicians. Would be pretty ordinary, just like the rest of us.

      At the end of the day we all want freedom, that’s what we want. Politics is very low. Politicians will never give you freedom. Politics is against freedom. Too many rules and regulations now and more to come. Control is what they have and will always seek. There is no such thing as freedom and there can never be. Bit negative I know but so true. I hope you all make it through the night.

    • Stewart Henstock says:

      08:22pm | 18/07/10

      I was reading the Sunday Telegraph and they had an election bio on both Abbott and Gillard.It was interesting to note that they had no mention of Gillards religious ties:that she was an atheist or that she had no kids.On the other hand they had everything but Tonys buggie smuggler size.They said he was a trainee priest,married,kids etc etc.
      Fair and balanced?
      I mean to some people being a trainee priest would be just as big a turnoff as being an atheist but they failed to mention that point.

    • Jason CR says:

      09:03pm | 18/07/10

      Wow….......and the full moon isn’t due until the 26th.

    • B Louis says:

      02:26am | 19/07/10

      Only journalists can save us from the two speed electorate. Someone has to explain the guts of the available policy options and what makes most sense for the country, so that everyone can understand enough to cast a sensible vote. The big mining tax grab was an attempt to grab votes from the masses. The effects of this will probably hurt the competitiveness of our mining industry which drives a big chunk of our economy. Thankfully, it has been watered down and magically there is more money - believe it when I see it.

      Please can the media save us from a campaign of nothing.

    • Gregg says:

      10:37am | 19/07/10

      Do not even believe all the watering down bit either for whilst that may be the case for some miners after discussions with just three companies out of about 3000 [ and not even representative bodies included ] what occurred silently for most media reporting is that some resources companies are going to find themselves under the petroleum resources rental where 40% is still the name of the game.
      The total budgetting concept was so rubbery it would seem who can know where Labor will bounce to next in their great move forward.

    • Stewart Henstock says:

      11:09am | 19/07/10

      Well if you leave it to the lame stream media all you will get is sound bytes distorting the truth and people like yourself believing the rubbish prosecuted by the mining industry.
      The big mining tax was a method of increasing revenues and lowering company taxes in which superannuation could be increased.A lot of the baby boomers started their working lives when company super was just a dream and will fail to have adequate super when they retire.
      The only thing that can save the electorate is to get of their bums and become knowledgeable of how our political system works.Relying on media sound bytes just makes it a popularity contest.

    • Amber says:

      11:29am | 19/07/10

      The new Labor voters are sell-out Liberals. They have become the typical Labor voter, not thinking past 5 minutes ahead.  They are comfortable in their leafy suburbs, well away from where the boat people will be re-settled and a 25% increase in energy bills won’t even be noticed.  This is a far cry from the traditional Labor voter who hasn’t got time to think of warm & fuzzy issues, because they are busy working just to keep food on the table.  They are starting to recognise the true party behind jobs and economic stability…finally!

    • Pete Falk says:

      01:43pm | 19/07/10

      A vote for Julia Gillard in power is a certainty for future more broken promises, more economical mishaps, more of the spendthrift waste of taxpayers’ money, more unemployment, more small businesses gone down, more boat people, more of a deficit, more catering to the big three mining companies and many more boat people - meaning less accommodation for the tens of thousands of homeless of our own.

    • Damocles says:

      04:35pm | 19/07/10

      Are you sure that’s Gillard sitting in the car? Looks more like one of those vacant eyed shop window mannequins…........heavens no…...it’s a Stepford wife! Look closer and you can see the hand up her back as the dummy speaks!
      The question is,
      “Who is the ventriloquist?”

    • Matt says:

      10:49am | 29/07/10

      This moronic ALP govt had greedily claimed that they saved us from the GFC, what a lot of bull, the facts are it was a combination of Costellos surplus, Chinas continued commodity trade and Swans spendathon, but no, they claim it was ALL their good work.
      The other idiotic thing that annoys me is their water policy of building power hungry desal plants all over, thus requiring more coal fired power stations, the very thing they are trying to tell us we need less of because of the GW hoax.

 

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