Recently, Jason Tin wrote a rather satisfying article about the imminent death of the internet due to it collapsing under the weight of its own vapid incivility. He’s right. And you’ve seen it, of course.

Serious intellectual debate. Picture: AP

An online comment section can turn a group of people who pay their mortgages and love their kittens into petty, hateful stupid people braying non-sequiturs at each other like Tourettes’ donkeys. But, why?

Good question. Science, having nothing better to do, has come up with some rather intriguing answers. So if the internet is dead, then consider me the pathologist – the science wonk who goes picking around in its chest cavity with tweezers trying to determine what killed it.

The biggest factor, of course, is anonymity. Right now, this piece has my name and face on it, but you are reading it in complete privacy. Within moderated reason, of course, you can say quite literally anything you like and your identifiability remains precisely zero. To anyone else reading this, you are completely ‘deinvididuated’.

And when you read other commentary, if you feel the same way, there’s no reason to hold back. Go on, let it out – everyone else did!

Psychologists have been observing the behaviour of individuals who don’t feel like individuals for more than a century. It’s one of those historical truisms that a group of people is more dangerous, more disinhibited than any individual. In a group, people become faceless, a part of something else entirely, and it shows in their behaviour. There’s a reason it’s called a “lynch mob” and not a “lynch duet”.

A few years ago, a book called “Without Sanctuary” was published, which is a visual history of American lynching. Many of the photos are simply gruesome shots of dead bodies which remind us (hopefully) how far we’ve come in the last 80 years, but what is truly fascinating are the photos of faces in the crowd, after the rage has passed.

Some of the participants look genuinely delighted. Others are smiling, but very obviously terrified. Some just look appallingly guilty. The range of looks within a few meters spans the whole gamut of normal human emotion, but a minute ago they were a mob with a much more singular, and unpleasant, intent.

It works the other way, as well. One of the classic experiments from the 70s dumped a bunch of young strangers together in a totally dark room for an hour or more. They were much more likely to touch each other, interact meaningfully, or become sexually aroused than people in a well-lit room.

Furthermore, participants who were told they would all be introduced after the session reported being entirely less engaged in the whole experience. It seems the most intimate experiences occurred between strangers who knew they’d remain strangers.

Try getting that through an academic ethics committee today!

On a slightly less serious note, we have a more procedural barrier to maintaining our civility. Online communication completely lacks the normative barriers in conversation, the normal structure which allows an intricate dance of turn-taking, mutual understanding and inter-communication.

Even people who disagree with each other are engaged with each other, and only very occasionally does even the most heated argument degerate into rank abuse.

On the internet, however, instead of an appropriate juncture to talk we receive all the information we’re likely to get in one slab. Complicated points and different strands of discussion have to be read linearly, nothing can be corrected at the time. So many people react to the tone of something they read, react to it in its entirety.

The consequence of this is that replies in a conversation function more like graffiti than discourse – we simply end up making marks on objects that please us, regardless of where they’re supposed to go or their appropriateness. After all, a remark which is totally out of context is as easy to type as anything else.

That doesn’t work in real life. If you were walking down the street and asked someone where to get the 347 bus from, and they immediately barked at you “CLIMATE CHANGE IS FICTION!” it’s unlikely the conversation would continue, as this is far from normative behaviour and you still wouldn’t know where to get the bus.

The internet is still a new cultural phenomenon. We’re adapting to it very quickly, but there’s also still a long way to go. It’s an interesting question as to quite what having a representation of yourself in cyberspace actually means. Are they you? Or are they someone like you? Should they be expected to maintain your behaviours?

So, if you’re going to comment on this article or any other, here’s something to consider:

Are you happy saying something now that you couldn’t say in real life?

Take advantage of your anonymity now to tell us what you really think.

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    • Erick says:

      04:53am | 07/02/12

      I don’t usually say stuff on the Internet that I wouldn’t say in real life. Anonymity tends to be an illusion, anyway - any half-decent hacker could get my name and address in minutes.

      I used to comment on my real name, but I became tired of copping personal abuse from anonymous people. Anyone familiar with the sorts of replies my comments get could probably see why.

      Of course, occasionally something will slip out that I’ll immediately wish I hadn’t said. If only The Punch had a “retract” button! But then, real life talk doesn’t have one of those, either.

      The greatest advantage of anonymity is that it protects me from harassment, at least to some extent. I’ve had serious threats made against me (not on The Punch), and I was glad I wasn’t using my real name then.

      I’m pretty sure that if I used my real name here, some people would attempt to silence me by attacking my employer and otherwise inconveniencing me in my private life. That’s just a risk I have to put up with.

      As for this whole “death of the Internet” thing - the Net is still being born, and is a long way from dying. A bit of incivility is not really much to worry about. Censorship is far more dangerous.

    • John Findlay says:

      07:11am | 07/02/12

      Anything I say I will stand by using my real name and to hell with the consiquinces ! I have even been send congraturatory mail at home in the past. There are some topic’s that I wont use my full name for but they are rare. If you really believe in something and you really seek change for the better then if you are serious you use your real name !
      Mutton Chops lol
      Have you got the gonads to join me Erick lol (seriously I can understand why you wouldnt, to many fruit loops out there !)

    • nossy says:

      08:54am | 07/02/12

      @John Findlay   I thought your name was Arnold Smith?

    • John Findlay says:

      09:43am | 07/02/12

      @ Nossy, maybe Mick Hunt would be better lol

    • patsy says:

      10:50am | 07/02/12

      I disagree with James Heathers that because you read and post anonamously you are “deindivididuated’” I think there are a lot of very different personalities and opinions posted on the Punch. If we were’nt individuals the comments would be a very dull read. (Thanks Erick and Acrotel for your jousting)

    • Peter says:

      01:03pm | 07/02/12

      The other benefit of anonymity, which you forget to mention, is that you can BS as much as you want about who you are and what you have experienced as a way of giving cred to your opinion.

    • Babe In The Woods says:

      05:21am | 07/02/12

      I think the anonymity of blog posters is what makes them so interesting.  I do not believe most people would talk like they do on here to others face to face.  Then again, quite often people don’t say what they really think in direct dialogue.  Whatever.  I am no sociologist.  I enjoy the polarising comments and always have a good laugh how political or gender extremists get their two bob in.  I am sure that this trend is the fault of Juliar, or the Mad Monk, who are in league with the climate alarmists and scientists.  Let us not forget that the Lord God and the sky fairies want to moderate, but - alas - those pesky feminazis and misandrists (did I ge that right?) stand in their way.  Anyway, I am off to bogan land to face Mecca with my illegal immigrant friends, who are hidden by the genuine refugees.  We are going to say “Sorry” in a non-apologist way then march off to our trade union jobs in the Liberal Party.  Have a nice day!

    • jay-ded says:

      08:10am | 07/02/12

      hahahaha - very clever BITW.

    • Peter says:

      01:05pm | 07/02/12

      Babe, you summed it up very well.  Well done.

    • Fred says:

      06:10am | 07/02/12

      “CLIMATE CHANGE IS FICTION!”

    • Super D says:

      10:28am | 07/02/12

      To get the 347 bus walk 200m turn right and then carry on to stand C

    • S.L says:

      01:18pm | 07/02/12

      And make sure you tell the driver well in advance where your stop is. He’s a cranky old bugger!

    • Ian1 says:

      06:49am | 07/02/12

      “Take advantage of your anonymity now to tell us what you really think.”

      Hahaha..  Yeah, because your usage of the Internet really is anonymous. 

      IP address logs at the ISP level, website tracking cookies, Google syndication, what makes you think anything you post isn’t immediately attributed to your node number?  Even the most daring insurgents who cloak their tracks through tor networks or SSH tunnels through ICMP are found out. The NBN is just part of an overarching global control mechanism where your personal search information and usage habits are bandied around between law enforcement agencies, marketing companies and criminals.  The technology currently available also includes your movements tracked via GPS for those who keep a mobile phone on them.

      Anyone who thinks the Internet is anonymous is a chump.  Who on earth places faith in privacy legislation?  National laws are lip service in this regard. 

      That being said, with a web address as thepunch.com.au should we be expecting anything other than vibrant discourse and conflicting points of view?

      I think not.

    • k rudd says:

      09:33am | 07/02/12

      laptop no way connected to me leeching WiFi. Pre paid phone in the name of one k Rudd also leeching WiFi. Don’t even need to hack stuff these days.

    • RyaN says:

      11:14am | 07/02/12

      @Ian1: I too have massive issue with sites such as the punch using google api’s.
      There is a reason why Google dropped the “don’t be evil” slogan quietly in 2009.

    • Elizabeth1 says:

      07:02am | 07/02/12

      I keep my comments pretty much to the way I would conduct myself in person.  I tend not to comment on the topics like politics and religion because I have deep ingrained beliefs that can be irrational and are not shiftable - nothing useful there.  I agree with Eric censorship is not the way to go and these types of conversations are just starting. Exciting times.  I have only ever had one proper conversation on punch and I enjoyed immensely.  We agreed to disagree in the end but I came away with a new perspective.  Also agree with Babe ITW - being anonymous allows people to express themselves freely.  And what a colourful bunch of people there are out there.  I have been a people watcher since I was a child. The internet has opened up a whole new world to me.  I am still watching people but in a different way.  I like how you can get to know a whole lot about individual regular posters personalities. A part of me would love to see what they look like in real life (I have been building pictures in my head, wonder if they match) but that would take away the anonymous nature and may stifle some of the posters comments. I would never want that.  The only thing that pisses me off is when I use my phone and make typos.  Oh and I cant do those fancy hyperlinks to internet pages. Really annoying.  Long live the internet.

    • Ian1 says:

      07:08am | 07/02/12

      You rock.

    • Tom F says:

      09:18am | 07/02/12

      All I know is that Fezzbo is one good lookin guy….

    • Ian1 says:

      10:24am | 07/02/12

      Elizabeth1, you should also consider that some of the blog contributions come from blog-bots.  Computer programs with somewhat artificiality intelligent algorithms that are employed by those with vested interests to steer public opinion through weight of numbers publishing in accord with one another.  Yahoo messenger imploded with them about a decade ago. People watching is a worthy habit, but take online posts with a healthy degree of scepticism, the banal ones mostly.  Also those which attempt to stifle debate or conclude the discussion as being over.

    • Winston Smith says:

      07:21am | 07/02/12

      One can see a steady descent into rudeness as physical contact is diminished and then lost.  It is not the case with all people but a pattern can be discerned.  Walking down the street, you happen to bump shoulders with a pedestrian coming the other way, rarely do you cop an earful of abuse and outrage.  You make eye contact, smile and offer your apologies and move on.  If you happen to be driving and accidently cut someone off, or even just stall at the lights, more likely you will be subjected to the abuse of the offended.  It is not that drivers are angrier than pedestrians, it is that the aggrieved is much less connected to the wrongdoer and there is less opportunity to offer that apologetic smile or that mea culpa to diffuse the situation.  In addition, the car offers not only a physical barrier but a psychological one to the rest of the world.  You find – most of the time, but not always – the larger the car the more willing the driver is to rage against another motorist.  Internet blogs offer the next level of disconnectedness.  The respondent is both emotionally and physically disconnected with those he/she is conversing.  Anonymity means that not only do people not know who you are, but you do not know who they are.  Being both physically and emotionally divorced from your interlocutor you feel less emotionally constrained from causing offense.

    • John Findlay says:

      07:51am | 07/02/12

      @ Winston, I believe what you are saying is spot on, it’s even become true between people who know each other because of txt messages, someone is more likely to say things negative in a txt than they would in speach.

    • James1 says:

      10:23am | 07/02/12

      “the car offers not only a physical barrier but a psychological one to the rest of the world”

      Perhaps that explains why you also see people singing along to music and picking their noses in cars, but not when they walk along the street.

    • Freeman says:

      08:06am | 07/02/12

      The punch is a good place to discuss things you shouldn’t talk about at parties, like politics and religion.

      loads of people will try to make it personal when they are losing the argument. but really, who cares what some anonymous blogger says?

    • Dave d7b says:

      10:31am | 07/02/12

      anonymity is irrelevant as any web comment or article’s value should be questionable.

      growing up with IRC and web forums, you soon realize that any source needs filtering…plenty of filtering.

      Propaganda and hyperbole is common in all media. I would be just as inclined to question what an established and known smh journalist has written as what ‘genuine9inchstud’ has commented.

    • Vanessa says:

      10:54am | 07/02/12

      I frequent many forums. I will not participate in a thread if it lacks finess and maturity. The reason why many Internet forums have degenerated in quality is due to slack moderation.
      I’d like to see anonimity done away with. Who really cares if it will diminish the amount of comments? There’s too much rubbish anyway and I’d really like to know who I’m hanging with online.
      Wanna have an opinion? Be brave enough to put your name to it.

    • St. Michael says:

      12:28pm | 07/02/12

      What, like you have?

    • Tim the Toolman says:

      12:28pm | 07/02/12

      “Wanna have an opinion? Be brave enough to put your name to it.”

      When religious people stop killing people they disagree with, that might be more sensible.

    • Geoff Russell says:

      12:59pm | 07/02/12

      Interesting stuff James ... please send me a pdf of your PhD when it’s done, I reckon it will be worth a read!

    • subotic says:

      02:54pm | 07/02/12

      I Punch On, therefore I am….

    • olive twist says:

      04:54pm | 07/02/12

      For the first time since 2007,  The Coalition will be elected to Australian federal government in 2020 and they will use 2020 Vision to outlaw The Punch .
      The next Liberal PM will be Harry Potter!

    • stephen says:

      05:08pm | 07/02/12

      I think the reason some contributors lie when they use the internet, or they say one thing and then unconsciously mean another or that they issue themselves decorous protocols - these things masquerade as good manners - is because we have an undying yearn for Privacy.
      And the privacy we are left with deconstructs our manner to a defence if we get caught out, ie. there are some things only I can know ... or, I didn’t tell the whole truth because it might shame me, and this sort of thing.

      Privacy, is, in fact, a cowards way of determining a truth, but only for themselves.
      In its more severe form, it is anti-social, it leads to paucity of imagination and skills in language, and it is even the basis, psychologically speaking, for the criminal mind.
      (Subversion, and things which matter to one person, but shouldn’t, via a coerced ignorance, to another, is the criminal’s raison d’etre.)
      The only thing which should harm us are lies.

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