It’s like something out of a dream. Right in front of your eyes, a corner of Sydney’s Town Hall train station has been transformed into a giant supermarket catalogue.

Yum, pixels for dinner! Picture: Getty Images

It’s a marketing campaign for Woolworths’ mobile app. Smartphones in hand, commuters are “scanning” 2D groceries displayed on the wall in front of them. Bread, milk, a pack of half a dozen sausages. It’s just like a supermarket. Just without the checkout chicks.

Around a decade ago, self-service machines were deployed throughout supermarkets and discount variety stores across the country, competing to scan your groceries with a band of pimply teenagers slaving for a minimum wage after school. But now with this latest innovation, even those have been cut out of the equation. The consumer can do it all themselves with the phone in their hand. It’s yet another sign that, thanks to technology, “checkout chick” has become an obsolete occupation. It’s not the only one that has.

In the red dirt of the Pilbara on the other side of Australia, one of Rio Tinto’s forty-one 2.1km-long iron ore trains is lumbering through the desert. A driver is at the controls. He won’t be for long.

It was reported yesterday that the mining giant will cut most of its 500 train driver jobs over the next three years as it converts its railway network into a driverless system. Instead, the trains’ 450km journey to port will be operated remotely from Perth. On top of that, Rio plans to deploy 150 driverless dump trucks at the mines in coming years.

Woollies and Rio Tinto, two of Australia’s most profitable companies in completely different industries, are embracing new technologies that will help them either expand into new markets or increase efficiencies - and make old jobs obsolete. And why wouldn’t they?

Like all businesses in retail, Woolworths needs to expand into the online shopping market that’s becoming more competitive by the second. Rio says that it needs a robot workforce to insure it against a tightening skills shortage in the region - the resources sector alone will need a whopping additional 260,000 workers(!) over the next five years, according to government estimates. And it will help them keep costs low by reducing the number of workers they have to fly-in and fly-out of WA, all while allowing them to keep up with the demand of resource-hungry China.

But workers with less skills can say goodbye to their jobs. Like train drivers, and surely, eventually checkout chicks.

Of course, it’s nothing new that machinery is taking the jobs of humans. It’s been happening at least since the first Ford assembly line. And we’re familiar with the schtick with these companies always put out:  while they’re killing lesser-skilled jobs, they’re creating better, higher paying jobs. It’s creative destruction.

Rio says they’re still going to employ a high number of people in the years to come and have offered to retrain existing workers who wish to stay. And retailers have said that their self-service machines won’t replace checkout chicks anytime soon - something you couldn’t believe if you take a look what’s happening in supermarkets in the UK.

Regardless, that doesn’t mean the casual checkout worker can easily get a job again. That doesn’t mean the train driver wants to go through the training to spend his life as a train information technology specialist. Technology has a human cost.

On the flipside, though, technology can lead to human gain. New technologies often make our economies better for all of us. For instance, you don’t hear consumers crying out for banks to shut down their ATMs and bring back bank tellers and their extraordinary queues. And the more efficient service a company provides, the more likely they are to get the consumer dollar and spread their wealth around.

One economist writes that technology “always throws people out of work…but in the long run, employment keeps growing, and wages keep rising.”

The key word there is “in the long run”. It doesn’t mean people don’t get left behind. Another economist writes: “Technology grows the overall economic pie, but that’s different than saying it will leave everyone unambiguously better off.”

Last year FoxConn, a Taiwanese company that manufactures Apple products like iPads in factories in China, said that it would sharply boost the number of robots it had working for it from 10,000 to 300,000 by this year.

Why? An analyst explained: “It’s no longer easy to double production by doubling your work force, it might be now cheaper to buy a new machine in the long run,” he added.

Once upon a time we were worried about our jobs being outsourced to people in China. Now we’re worried about them being outsourced to machines in China. And what about the Chinese workers? FoxConn too claimed at the time they were going to move the manufacturing workers into better, higher-paying jobs, but do you really think there’ was space for many of them amongst those hundreds of thousands of robots?

The world is getting more hi-tech. But while our trains might be driving themselves, some - the checkout chicks and the Chinese - are inevitably going to be left at the station, wondering what they’re going to do next.

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    • Emma says:

      05:18am | 22/02/12

      I think you are underestimating human flexibility. These changes dont happen over night, but you cannot expect for your job to be in demand for all those 50 odd years you are part of the workforce. You should always be aware of what is happening in your line of work and go with it and adapt. Technological development is not like a company suddenly filing for bankruptcy - so you cant say you didnt know it was coming.

    • Carol says:

      09:27am | 22/02/12

      Emma,

      I’d have to agree with you. Many trades that employed thousands 50 or 100 years ago, no longer exist. New trades/professions have taken their place.
      Industry has been going off shore for at least 30 years and as a people we have done nothing about it! The fact is, until it bits us on the bum, we just don’t care.

      Our standards of education have dropped, we are not inclined to go where the work is, added to which we expect to be paid top dollar, but we want to buy cheap. Forget the GFC we aint seen nothing yet, when governments start to cut back on social services, we will react just like the Greeks.

    • Jane2 says:

      09:38am | 22/02/12

      True.

      How many telephonists do we have? Instead of rooms full of people in front of switchboards you are lucky to have one in front of a computer.

      Professional typists? Girls in high school in the late 1980’s were still chosing to take courses in typing because it had job opportunities.

      Even the book keeper isnt in as much demand as they used to be as more and more business’ use computer applications to manage their own books.

      All jobs morph over time, some become extinct, other new ones are born. If you sit back and expect the job you started in will be unchanging then you are making yourself as extinct as a candlemaker.

    • iMitchy says:

      10:32am | 22/02/12

      It pays to look at which jobs are becoming obsolescent too. It’s the mundane, repetitive tasks that machines can easily do. No-one wants to be a checkout-chick their whole lives, but those who do enjoy it can transition into other retail roles with broader responsibilities or stay with their company and undertake different tasks.

      This transition in industry is so slow that many positions are rendered outdated and obsolete long before the last worker finishes in that role. A good example these days would be private stock brokers. With the exception of giving analytical advice, their role to facilitate the buying and selling of paper assets has been made almost redundant by computers. The online trading companies obviously have employees in other roles however which compliment and aid the service they provide.

      The majority of workers do get out early and adapt to the changing landscape. But just like the private stock brokers, some will stick around and take advantage of the customer base who prefer to deal with a person during their transactions.

    • SteveKAG says:

      05:47am | 22/02/12

      I have recently thought about these robots that are coming to the mining sector, so many jobs going but still so many jobs in demand, it is a part of our world today, has been since Henry Ford first started with the modern prodcution line.
      The Woolworth’s thing is interesting, i use those self service machines at the stores and will use them over and above a snot nosed check out chick anyday, although i have a 16 year old daughter who is one of those snot nosed checkout chicks at Kmart and Target, i prefer the cold, no mindless chatter of cold hard plastic….....Hypocritical?  Maybe but for everyone of me that prefers that machine there will be two fo me that prefers the human intereaction.

    • acotrel says:

      06:14am | 22/02/12

      There is one fundamental that is missing from the equation - ‘everything is negotiable’.  The supermarkets are presuming a lot !  How do you search for a products country of origin in an electronic system ? - Believe the computer and stuff Australian producers - hardly !
      We badly need another ‘Buy Australian Made’ programme, to push the quality side of our argument.

    • Bettina says:

      06:16am | 22/02/12

      Really? I am too stupid to handle those checkout machines. I always manage to get the red light flashing and the bl**dy thing saying “wait for assistance” .

    • Bertrand says:

      06:36am | 22/02/12

      I find the mindless chatter (overly detailed spoken instructions) from those machines to be more annoying than the mindless chatter from the checkout chick.

      With reference to this article… I agree with your sentiments @SteveKAG…. technological change and the associated job losses and new job types has been a part of human history since pretty much forever.

      The one thing I would say though, is that one of the benefits of the explosion in technological innovation was supposed to be that we could create more wealth for less human work, and that as a result, the working week would drop dramatically.

      In fact it has been the opposite. As technological change pushes competition between workers, those who wish to remain employed need to be willing to work more and more. The 38 hour week is fast becoming an anachronism.

    • Paul says:

      07:56am | 22/02/12

      You can ignore the chatter. Ignore the buttons. Scan your items and stuff your money in the money slot. The machine doesn’t spit it out and sulk. It goes “please take your change” and “thank you for shopping at Coles” while I’m already walking out the door.

      Oh - put all your spare coins in first. That way, the machine sorts through your change for you and totals it up. Way simpler than fumbling with it at the bar.

    • Kheiron says:

      03:40pm | 23/02/12

      “Please put item in baggage area”
      “Unexpected item in baggage area”
      “Please wait for assistance”

      I truly hate the damn things. The damn store obviously trusts us like we were convicts making the damn things are so sensitive that they freeze up with a change in air pressure. Then you have to stand around waiting for the human.
      If they worked as they’re suppose to, I’d be all for them but the ones around here are liable to make a 5 minute rush into the IGA a 20 minute stand around while some pimply teen with a swipe card apologises and resets the damn machine.

    • Macca says:

      05:49am | 22/02/12

      The job market at the moment is really interesting. Despite all the doom and gloom in retail and manufacturing, the number of people employed in Australia increased in the December quarter. More jobs are currently being created than lost.

      Not surprisingly, the new jobs are being created in particular industries and regions. A colleague of mine and I are currently advertising for two jobs in our business’s, low-skilled, minimal experience, reasonable pay for The job. My job is in Sydneu, and I’m receiving close to 70 applicants a day. Her role is in Perth, she has received 15 in a week.

      Sydney and Melbourne are going to have plenty of skilled and unskilled workers available if companies are prepared to train and develop their people. One of the great challenges for the Australian economy over the next 5 -10 years will not be a lack of jobs, it will be a lack of people to fill the vacancies, particular in those towns and cities where additional services is being driven by the resource boom.

    • acotrel says:

      07:28am | 22/02/12

      Do a simple risk assessment and think about where we would be if the resources boom ends suddenly ! It’s a house of cards.

    • SimonFromLakemba says:

      08:33am | 22/02/12

      Good post. What industry you in?

      I was watching Kochie on Sunrise this morning and as luck would have it was going through where jobs were lost and picked up in the economy.

      Mining is adding a lot of jobs but manufacturing and retail were losing jobs which was no great surprise but overall 46,000 were added.

      @Acotrel

      There is enough resources in the ground to go for a very long time, just depends how long China and India need it.

    • KH says:

      08:43am | 22/02/12

      Sure but what kind of jobs are they?  Its not necessarily permanent full time job lost permanent full time job gained - a lot of these ‘new’ jobs are contracts, casual and part time - the triad of horror for many people.  So sure, it looks like ‘more’, but for individuals it is actually less…........

    • NESLIHAN KUROSAWA says:

      05:59am | 22/02/12

      Hi Daniel,

      I truly think that shopping is the least of our worries! I always find it to be an enjoyable experience to have the chance to spend our hard earned money.  No wonder they call the RETAIL THERAPY, right?  And I also happen to have a very close relationship with my check out personnel, not chicks FYI. It just gives us that personal touch with our shopping experience.

      There has been some kind of discontent among the ranks of Chinese workers employed by Apple, in China recently. They were actually complaining about the terrible work conditions, that could be a first for the Chinese people employed by Apple, ever!

      With all due respect to you, do you really think that Chinese workers have any other choice but work?  I truly don’t think that they can be very picky and choosy about work opportunities, which might come their way?  China being one of the most populous nations in the world, I just have to say think again.

      My ultimate dream would be having one of those robots with great abilities of cooking, cleaning, ironing and vacuuming around the house!  That would really be a true invention and a great help, especially for working women with families.  Kind regards to your editors.

    • Emma says:

      07:14am | 22/02/12

      NESLIHAN KUROSAWA

      I want to be first to say this:
      What about working men with families? Since when is cooking and cleaning a women only job? Men might want a robot to help around the house too.

    • NESLIHAN KUROSAWA says:

      07:47am | 22/02/12

      Hi Emma,

      Thanks for your reply and it did make me think very deeply about this particular topic.  I have another idea though!  How about a role reversal instead of having robots, can we have men to do the house work until some one comes up with a better idea?

      Only joking!  Because traditionally house work has exclusively been a job well designed for women only!  Lets all have robots for anyone who can afford to get one in the first place. Kind regards.

    • Emma says:

      08:27am | 22/02/12

      NESLIHAN KUROSAWA

      I like it. House work is a job that has been “designed” for women.

      I smell conspiracy!

      Men throughout the centuries have made house work and all equipment related to it to look like its a “women’s thing”. Just to eventually come up with the big solution: ROBOTS. And we women will be so ever grateful that we promise them sex instead whenever we would have been busy with housework before.

    • Lisa H. says:

      11:50pm | 22/02/12

      The overwhelming reality is that women are the ones that are up until midnight sorting the laundry and packing the school lunches. The tedious, repetitive and ever-so-vital ‘cleaning’ type jobs fall to us.
      Yes, my husband does the childrens’ teeth. It takes him two minutes and boy does he complain.
      Personally, I would find it impossible to lie around watching tv while my partner laboured on…but this is the reality in hundreds of thousands of households every single night.
      Men, your families need you to do the ‘real stuff’ - every single day - not just the weekend footy or the occasional chips in the oven.

    • Johnno says:

      06:00am | 22/02/12

      People always think job losses happen when technological change happens they don’t in relaity. Just the work force gets re skilled and the old jobs are replaced with ne ones.
      Example the typewriter .
      Many type writer salesman and typewrite factory workers, did not lose there job long term.
      They became computer sales man and worked in Apple factories.

      Same with digital media, many journalists now work in digital not print media.

    • Gregg says:

      08:22am | 22/02/12

      Yes Johno and your examples are all much about the same line of work being done but just with different technology.

      As for mines, there’s a big difference between a plant operator and a technician or engineer of any description.

      You can see some factual accounts of mine in a lower posting.

    • Tony of Poorakistan says:

      09:33am | 22/02/12

      Trouble is, the technology jobs are being sent overseas - I would guess that even that you-beaut smartphone app that the author commented on was done elsewhere.

      I work in IT and have done for a quarter of a century. There is no way I would advise anyone in Australia to get into it now unless they want to be a simple server monkey. Everything else is being sent to India and the Phillipines (along with all your personal data, I might add)

    • Craig says:

      06:41am | 22/02/12

      You did not go far enough back - try the auomated weaving machines at the root of the Luddite rebellion.

      And remember that ‘computer’ was a job title until the 1940s.

      Jobs are continually destroyed and created. With the pace of technology increasing this is happening more rapidly. We cannot expect security in the same job for generations or even one person’s lifetime anymore.

      Humans will need to adapt to having multiple careers, learning new tricks on a regular basis.

      In all probability this will be good for most of us, forcing us to learn new skills, forge new friendships and take a broader view of the world.

      However it is tough for those starting out in the workforce. With ‘no experience’ jobs being automated it will be increasingly hard for school leavers to find roles which actually give them experience to step onto the working ladder.

      We need serious consideration in our education, apprenticeship and trainee schemes to ensure that school leavers are given an opportunity to start in businesses. Even just to ensure that, over time, we have the trained and skilled people necessary to operate our complex technological machinery and continue our civilisation.

    • gobsmack says:

      06:51am | 22/02/12

      Alan Joyce must be licking his lips.
      Pilotless passenger planes.  Why not?  The technology has already been developed with drones.

    • Erick says:

      07:25am | 22/02/12

      @gobsmack - If unions make too many silly demands and cause too much trouble, mechanisation will be the way to go!

      I can’t wait to see the end of trade unions. Even though I may personally benefit from some of their actions, it’s outweighed by the damage they cause.

    • Tim says:

      11:17am | 22/02/12

      @Erick if unions come to an end and everybody gets paid what employers want to pay them i.e. as little as possible then you better hope you are one of the lotto winners of life - because that will be the only way you get a decent income in such a world.

      Unions are the only mechanism for managing the introduction of technology in socially positive ways. They ensure that management (a) can’t just drop wages through the floor to compete with machines and (b) move to technology that works with, not replaces, human skills. Australian employers are the most low quality in the western world - they have no capacity for innovation, only rent seeking and demanding tax cuts.

    • JamesH says:

      01:11pm | 22/02/12

      Great.  Some bored teenage hacker starts messing with Qantas’ website and manages to crash every plane.  Total automation would be a disaster for aviation.  They’d need a pilot on hand to back up.

    • marley says:

      03:23pm | 22/02/12

      I read not too long ago, in reference to the Air France crash over the Atlantic a couple of years ago, that ‘planes are now so highly computerized that pilots are losing their actual flying skills.  They are having to develop simulators that reinforce basic piloting know-how, because the guys flying by wire have either lost it or never really acquired it.  Now that’s a scary thought.

    • Tubesteak says:

      07:37am | 22/02/12

      So a bunch of menial jobs are “lost”. No real harm. Think about the expertise employed by IT professionals and engineers that went into that.

      Therein lies the trick. People need to wake up. No longer can you rely on menial jobs to pay the bills. You have to develop a marketable skill whereby you become indispensable.

      In my profession there is no way it could be done by a robot or someone in a cheap labour country. Not only does it take years of training and qualifications but it also requires intense intellectual thought and experience within Australia. Something you can’t get from a robot or poorly educated Chinese/Indian.

      This is the future. No point fighting it. Position yourself so that you can benefit from it.

    • Dragon says:

      08:33am | 22/02/12

      All well and good for those of us in society that can position themselves as you put it.

      There are a lot of people out there that need menial work because they’re not cut out for other more mentally intense types of work. As long as the people who managed to position themselves to succeed in the future don’t mind financially supporting these people along with the huge aging population we’re all going to iniherit. But don’t worry, there will probably be an app for that once it happens…

    • Fiona says:

      09:52am | 22/02/12

      Not everyone can do a highly educated, skilled position. This country cannot be manned by lawyers/accountants/business execs alone. Someone has to clean up after them.

    • tea says:

      10:33am | 22/02/12

      @Dragon - that is a very depressing attitude. What ever cards you have been dealt - we can all do better. Try it- you might surprise yourself.

    • Joe says:

      12:20pm | 22/02/12

      Only half right Tubesteak.

      Robots and automation by the end of this decade are going to become as big in every manual job as the PC has become in office work.

      From the factory floor, to the building site, road works and even the lolly pop person robots and automation are going to be everywhere replacing people by doing the job more efficiently and more effectively.

      But instead of getting you knickers in a twist about losing your job, there won’t be any less jobs in Australia, its just that the jobs will change.  In future many of these new jobs will be required to interface with robots and automation to do the heavy lifting and the repetitive type tasks.  Whats the best training you can give your children for this?  Probably Xbox or gameboy or similar, as well as the good old basic 3 r’s never go astray.

      On service sector jobs in the developed world being shifted to the developing world.  I think you are going to find this will be a major challenge to the developed world that they will need to try to resist.

    • Tubesteak says:

      01:49pm | 22/02/12

      Dragon and Fiona
      If you believe you can’t do something then you’ll always be right. If you make yourself the victim you will never succeed. Menial jobs will be done by robots as technology advances. Robots will need to be programmed by IT professionals. Whether that’s done here or overseas remains to be seen where the cost and efficiency advantages lay.

      Joe
      I thought that’s what I was saying. Except I don’t think there is any point in the developed world resisting the change to the developing world. Where a company can exploit economies of scale and wage differentials then they should do so. What we developed people need to understand is that it is up to us to think of ways to add unique value and make ourselves indispensable.

    • Dragon says:

      03:11pm | 22/02/12

      Tubesteak, I think I remember you from another blog - How you doing? I was merely pointing out that there will invariably be a lot of people who will struggle on mass for many years as these changes you speak of come into play. I agree with what you say but adding a few observations of my own which I think are quite as valid. I know for a fact that a lot of the people that I have to engage with as a part of my current job, which invariably keeps people doing what they can in the workforce and off welfare queues, will struggle to find a place in this world you speak of and are going to have to be supported by some means.

      You’re right, It’s a comin, we can’t stop the machine - but if we look at things one dimensionally, we won’t see the whole picture no matter which side you’re looking at it from.

    • marley says:

      03:28pm | 22/02/12

      I think you might be underestimating the quality of education available in India and China.  Yes, there are a lot of undereducated workers and peasants in both countries - but there are also some very highly educated engineers and scientists in both as well.  And even if only a small percentage of their citizens get an Australian-calibre education, that would still equate to a lot more than our entire population.

      When the west started losing manufacturing jobs to Asia, the argument always was, it’s okay because we’ll still do the knowledge jobs.  But will we?  I don’t necessarily believe that at all.

    • Gregg says:

      07:38am | 22/02/12

      As you say Daniel, technology has been about for more than just a few decades and you can even go back to before Henry and the Industrial Revolution, there being no doubt that many Viking rowers thought magnaminously of the raising of the first sail and no doubt different techniques were developed throughout the centuries for pyramid construction and even for earlier warfare.

      That being said, not all technology will be without its hiccups and though Rio is to run trials with its trucking, that is a good thing.
      In the mining industry myself I saw accountants all gung ho about empowering workshop floor employees with direct input of info into a computerised cost reporting system and it was not accountants that had to chase up anomalies but the poor bloody engineers, me included who would rather have been addressing real problems.
      It only took one incorrect number in a nine or more digit entry to have something like a $40 valve showing up as a $43,000 dump truck diesel engine and that is a real example and so you multiply that effect more than a few times and a section manager then spends a heap of time looking for why a budget has blown out.
      Do you think that management looking at the bottom line could be convinced that perhaps accounts department should employ more people to search re anomalies?, Fat Chance.

      In a more practical sense, I was involved in developing remote controlled underground loaders to enter dangerous ground condition areas and that was OK until the dangerous ground enveloped the loader!!! Fat Chance of retrieving it.

      One area that will be interesting for Rio is going to be their reliance on automation to detect any faults in a dump truck, falling oil pressure and the like for whereas an operator being alerted to that would seek advice and a truck could be diverted to a service bay under operator control, the system on an operatorless truck is going to need to be able to not just monitor and alert but also initiate action or someone in a control centre will have to.
      So yeh, there is scope that a in place of operators you’ll have consol operators being trucking big brothers, all very fine in theory but plant items do have a mind of their own at times, a dropping oil pressure reading perhaps coming from a sticky valve or something minor that an operator may be able to attend to.

      And then mines can be dangerous places, and sudden changes in ground conditions could see some interesting developments but at least if a dump truck is at the bottom of the pit in a crumpled heap, an operator will not be aboard.

      Me thinks Rio fibs a fair bit too for whereas there may be something in ” Rio says that it needs a robot workforce to insure it against a tightening skills shortage in the region - the resources sector alone will need a whopping additional 260,000 workers(!) over the next five years, according to government estimates. “
      First off, I doubt they would have too much belief in government estimates and what Rio are really seeking to do long term is to take out the disadvantage of high Labour costs to Australian operations for our resources companies do have to maintain competiveness on the global market, Labour costs and Super Profits and Carbon Taxes collectively giant killers.

      They will no doubt employ more people in areas other than operations and one of those could be servicing to resolve spurious plant alerts and then they will have a labour shortage for just because you have a plant operator out of work does not necessarily mean you have a potential technician.
      It should once again make for interesting reports from engineers upwards.

    • Daniel Piotrowski says:

      03:35pm | 22/02/12

      Interesting post, thanks Gregg.

    • Paul says:

      07:52am | 22/02/12

      And if they pay he robots, then the will be someone to sell the goods to! Sweet!

      Either society collapses, or we give everyone a dole and stop whining about “bludgers”.

      … Actually, I’m kidding. When the oil and coal really start running out, human labour will become economic again. These power-hungry robots are just a fad.

    • Shane says:

      08:23am | 22/02/12

      let me be the first to bow before our eventual robot overlords.

      seriously, how a company like Rio Tinto can cry poor and sack a single person is a crime. our Government stands by while these massive international corporations, earning billions of dollars of profits every quarter, will say anything to justify their lies.

    • Michael says:

      08:36am | 22/02/12

      Not eating jobs, changing their composition. Also known as, increasing productivity.

      In our country, we desperately need to increase productivity to compete on the global scale. Unfortunately, we have unions fighting against productivity increases, and a federal labor government implementing draconian workplace laws to assist the union agenda.

    • Anna C says:

      09:21am | 22/02/12

      Every day we are getting closer and closer to the inevitable scenario of robots rising up and overthrowing mankind. Cool.

    • Joe says:

      01:38pm | 22/02/12

      Great, then we can have robot over population articles to discuss ad nauseam on The Punch.

      And we can compare things to “populating like robots”.

      We could even discuss the theories of Thomas Robot Malthus.

    • Fred says:

      09:21am | 22/02/12

      All this tech and we’re working harder than ever and life is more stressful than ever. Lies! Bring back the 80s man.

    • Tim Chapman says:

      09:25am | 22/02/12

      “Technology has a human cost. On the flipside, though, technology can lead to human gain.”

      That is spot on. Technological change is inevitable and a good thing, but with the balance of power so far in favour of companies, even if a majority of people benefit it’s not hard to imagine a lot of people being left behind.

      So who will stick up for those workers and make sure that technological change does benefit everyone? People who say unions don’t have anything left to offer the worker in the modern world are kidding themselves.

    • Daylight robbery says:

      09:46am | 22/02/12

      Then there’s traffic management; a growth industry where you see two utilities flanking a ride on lawnmower mowing the council grass centre to the double lane roadside.

      Really, litigation has cost us dearly in extra in some cases ridiculously extra man power to carry out what were once a simple operation.

      In some cases items such as eg:bricks cost more than the labour to lay them where fully automated kilns have removed the vast quantities of jobs to make them.  It was once a lot cheaper to buy the bricks than to lay them.

      A price ratio once completely the opposite.

    • subotic says:

      09:50am | 22/02/12

      Evolve or die.

      Allegedly, mankind has been evolving and adapting over mega-zillions of years, shaped by the world around him. And has survived so far.

      And so, what, now a bloody mobile/ cell phone has us ****** over a barrel?

      Get outta here…..

    • Emma says:

      10:21am | 22/02/12

      Who says that the whole concept of society with work and salary etc etc is the ultimate one anyway? Maybe when technology changes our lifestyle it might change our perception of society and its rules as well?

      And dont get me started on overpopulation again! Too many people and not enough jobs? With technology on the rise we dont need those thousands working in the factories.

      See the bigger picture. It will balance out one way or the other. Maybe just not the way we can grasp today.

    • Johnno says:

      11:20am | 22/02/12

      Emma overpopulation is in my top 10 biggest planet earth worries. Bill Gates is doing some stuff and ted turner about trying to get the population down. Some great concepts. the world is over populated, and unless we advanced genetically modified food to the point of cloning, and find new moor efficient biofuels for energy, then emma the world in 20-50 years is going ot be in massive massive trouble if it is not already. But no carbon tax is not the answer either lol, i had to slip that one in too Emma lol.

    • Joe says:

      01:16pm | 22/02/12

      “Once upon a time we were worried about our jobs being outsourced to people in China. Now we’re worried about them being outsourced to machines in China. And what about the Chinese workers? FoxConn too claimed at the time they were going to move the manufacturing workers into better, higher-paying jobs, but do you really think there’ was space for many of them amongst those hundreds of thousands of robots?”

      The same thing is also beginning to happen in Agriculture with the advent of driverless tractors ploughing, sowing and harvesting fields.  Robots and automation are becoming to take over the picking of fruit and vegetables.

      I would be more worried about this development if I was in China than in Australia.  Nothing stopping these jobs being done anywhere around the world now that large quantities of cheap skilled labour are no longer going to be a significant factor.

      Access to fewer highly skilled and imaginative engineers, technicians and operators is going to be an important factor but not so much the cost of these people, as the cost of these people will not be a significant part of the cost of production.  In this sense many countries in the developed world will become just as attractive as China for places to manufacture these type of goods.  In fact other factors will typically dominate the choice of where to produce these, such as cheap power, cheap other inputs.

      Within a decade even the most intricate manual tasks will be able to be done much more cheaply and with much greater quality by robots and automation than even the cheapest, most proficient low skilled/unskilled labour.  The age of the unskilled and low skilled labour is almost over.

      The problem for China and even more so for countries waiting their turn to do a China with their masses of people, like India, is now what do they do with all their people in the future. 

      What hope is there for them?  How are they going to be kept happy, particularly when they can now see so easily with the cheap technology now readily available how well other people around the world and even in their own country are living? 

      No easy answers to these questions.

    • Kheiron says:

      03:53pm | 23/02/12

      I like to think that this progression in technology is leading to a golden age of humanity. Food is grown, picked, processed by mechanical hands. Ore is mined, smelted and made into machines by the machines themselves. Almost every job is the province of some robot or other and all that’s left to do for us humans is to ponder, play and perfect.
      Imagine a world without the need for employment, where the care of humanity is achieved without the huge time and effort sink from other humans.
      Endless hours for philosophical debate.
      Scientific research without a need for funding.
      Families being families, communities being communities.
      Sounds grand.

      But here’s how it’s going to work out.
      Business will own the robots and charge highest possible price for their products and the only way to earn an income to purchase them will be through robots of your own.
      Humanity, without the need to get up and go to work, will devolve into stationary amorphous blobs without drive or willpower.
      Then, the machines take over and we’re suddenly like the Quarians and Geth. I would have said Skynet, but that comparisons been worn thin.

      So, the means for the worlds ascension or it’s destruction.
      Sounds thrilling.

    • Jerk says:

      06:47am | 04/03/12

      Entitle-minded feminist American women are in for a shock of their lifetimes.  Robots will soon take over your job.
      End of independence.
      End of your feminist ideology.
      End of the story!

 

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