Arriving at the Randwick Labor Club for Saturday night’s ALP election function, the staff at the desk were joking about having voted Liberal. This was obviously going to be a bad night for the Labor Party. 

It's time to say goodbye Kristina. Picture: Anthony Reginato

Like residents waiting for a massive cyclone, the Labor faithful knew when it was coming and where from; the only thing for it now was to buckle down together and wait. Needless to say, it was weird.

One benefit of this particular bunker was the open bar, which was probably the most useful bit of campaign spending the NSW ALP had made in the last six weeks.

Wandering around the room you detected no palpable sadness or anger, both of which were present at the disastrous Labor function following the federal election. Rather it was an air of well prepared and rehearsed acceptance. It was black comedy.

I started chatting to Mike, a member of the party for over thirty years who had spent the day handing out how-to-vote cards in Waverly. When asked how the day went, he was blunt: “Bloody awful.”

Asked why he thought the party had found itself in this position tonight, he looked up from his beer and thought for a moment. “I guess they’re just sick of us. But you know this happens when you’ve been in power so long,” he said - smiling the entire time. 

When I put it to Mike that it had never happened this dramatically he became more introspective about Labor’s future: “We need more actual Labor people, plumbers and stuff, you know?” 

Others expressed similar sentiments about “losing touch”, the accepted phrase among the ALP faithful to describe the disaster. Still, it had already begun to sound a like a worn cliché, a kind of meaningless response given by a modern politician.

When asked what they meant by losing touch most people couldn’t really say - partly as it would mean admitting other things about the party they didn’t like, but mainly because these people weren’t the problem with NSW Labor. These were people who would vote for Labor till they die (which, for many, wasn’t an entirely distant prospect), volunteer on election-day and turn up to the function as a matter of course. These people were all that Kristina Keneally had left.

As well as for Keneally, the function was for Coogee MP Paul Pearce and Maroubra member Michael Daley.

Pearce gave a good concession speech after being thumped with a 14.5 per cent swing against him. He declared that the Labor Party had to become the party of the working class once more and that the ALP in NSW “was where it needed to be”. What exactly he meant by that I’m not sure, but it sounded sincere.

Daley suffered a similar swing against him but managed to somehow hang on. He made a victory speech, concluding: “It has been catastrophic, but let’s hold our heads high, we are Labor and have nothing to be ashamed of”. Daley left the stage to rapturous applause from his young volunteers who had turned the room into a small sea of green with their campaign t-shirts. Evidently Mr Daley was so proud of Labor that he found it necessary to dress his workers up like The Greens.

Peter Garrett showed up at one point and had photos taken with young volunteers. As his huge figure cut through the room an old bloke muttered to his mates: “Yeah Garrett, great idea that was, turn a safe seat into a marginal one.”

Then, finally Kristina arrived, and was rushed through a human corridor on a wave of photographer’s flashes and gorgeous blond hair.

Her speech was as forgettable - as it needed to be. More platitudes about losing touch, and then she predictably decided to take the blame for the entire loss. Something that she knows is untrue, something we know is untrue, but something that has to be said by leaders in moments like these. 

When Keneally announced that she was stepping down, the crowd booed and somebody yelled out “but who else is there?”, followed by what can only be described as an awkward pause. Then she left the room and went upstairs, to be updated on further casualties from the evening.

As the room cleared out a few journalists and the more masochistic Labor supporters moved forward to the Sky feed to watch O’Farrell’s acceptance.

Halfway through the new Premier’s speech an old bloke who worked at the club interrupted on the mic: “I just want to announce that the bar will be closing at 10:30, but the bar on the second floor will be open, along with the best pokies in the eastern suburbs”. There’s a lesson somewhere in there about New South Wales.

I briefly tagged along to a Labor staffer party, which, all things being considered, was full of surprisingly convivial people who seemed glad the whole thing was finally over with (except for Bob Ellis, who sat moribund on a large foot stool in front of the television). 

We ended up at a pub in the city crammed with Labor types. They were all there - outgoing ALP National Secretary Karl Bitar, NSW Labor General Secretary Sam Dastyari and (the faceless man who never appears to be off the television) AWU Secretary Paul Howes. You might have said if a bomb went off in that bar there would have been nobody left to run the NSW Labor Party, except on Saturday night the bomb had already detonated. 

None of this seemed to quell the mood, however; Howes and Bitar were happily chatting like they were planning the next four years of Labor Government rather than discussing the annihilation that had just taken place.

The mood was upbeat, if only because engaging with reality was too horrible, and, right now, completely unnecessary. One campaign strategist was thrilled. Not only had the Greens not picked up a seat, but the ALP were likely to get to 20: “Mate I’m dancing on the ceiling with 20 seats.”

Yep, weird night.

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    • Phil says:

      05:35am | 28/03/11

      Whilst different arenas what voters must realise is that with Federal Labor its just putting lipstick on the pig. They are the same union hacks, totally inexperienced in running anything.
      They are the same dishonest practises like handing out illegal or at least immoral how to vote cards.
      Labor without union funding would be a smaller party than the greens.

    • Deepthinker says:

      07:10am | 28/03/11

      It may take some time for it to come about but it will eventually happen, people will wake up to the fact that the ALP is not the working peoples party. It is an extension of the union movement which is only interested in power over people. The unions only think that they they know what is best for the people.

    • corso cowboy says:

      09:56pm | 28/03/11

      What is worse is that with compulsory unionism in some workplaces - and heavy public service unionism - the employers’ automatic deduction of union fees means Labor gets union fees flowing in. So effective is this (internationally as well)  that unions are a now a giant laundromat funding the ALP/Greens/Left. Hence the source of the $60 million they siphoned out of workers’ pockets last election for the anti-Work Choices campaign.

    • Robert Smissen, rural SA, God's own country says:

      10:54pm | 28/03/11

      Labor hasn’t been a working man’s party since Arthur Calwell, just a bunch of soft handed dilettantes, even the “Silver Bogan” Bob Hawke was a fake. Could you imagine a train driver getting preselection intoday’s Labor? ? I DON’T THINK SO! ! !

    • shane says:

      08:03am | 28/03/11

      I agree with Leo’s point about people spouting platitudes mindlessly, such as “we lost touch”, but that’s not new. That’s all politics is. Platitudes and mindlessness.

      Barry O: ‘We will govern for all people’, echoing every winning party in every election for the last 20 years at least.

      “Stop our navel gazing and concentrate on delivering the services and policies that the (”****” People) elected us and trust us to implement”.

      “The Australian people are smart enough to see through *****” (despite in most cases evidence that the opposite is usually true).

      ‘The ****** people always get it right’ - This is a nice one. Especially useful to avoid irritating questions about ‘why said electoral disaster happened.

      ‘The Australian people want….’

      ‘The Australia people believe….’

      blah blah blah.

      And the reason nobody’s really upset is probably because they know it’s their turn to sit on the other side of the chamber. Yeah, it will probably be for longer than usual this time, but eventually it will swing back the other way. It’s like an endless relay race, and because its endless, it doesn’t really matter how long it is you don’t or do hold the batten.

    • Gerard says:

      04:06pm | 28/03/11

      Agree 100%, particularly the last paragraph which pretty much sums up the two-party system (or, to be more accurate, the two-party cartel).

    • Geoff - Brisbane says:

      08:43am | 28/03/11

      Take note anna blight. You are next.

    • Damocles says:

      02:57pm | 28/03/11

      Spot on Geoff! Bligh has lied and cheated her way for too long, her and her little dormouse Treasurer Fraser and not to forget that lack lustre stooge of a Deputy Lucas! All rotten to the core! They’re running scared now with Campbell Newman, someone who knows how to lead, ready to take them on and WIN! Bring on the elections Bligh, if you dare! The floods aren’t going to protect and save you! Truth and honesty will eventually win out!

    • Random says:

      08:48am | 28/03/11

      The commentary and internal reviews are now all focussed on the problems of the Labor party. And that is exactly why they have a problem.

      Instead of looking at why the party failed itself they should be looking at why the party FAILED THE ELECTORATE. That should be the starting point, because the Labor Party (as with all political parties) should only exist to SERVE THE ELECTORATE, rather than existing to serve itself.

    • Gerard says:

      04:12pm | 28/03/11

      What political parties should exist to do is irrelevant. The reality is that political parties exist only to serve themselves. An MP cannot serve two masters…

    • Sony B Goode says:

      08:53am | 28/03/11

      Drove past old Windsor rd this morning and traffic backed up as usual for miles whist 2 tway lanes stood empty alongside. These apparently cost $500m to build and seem to service a few hundred people each day for a private bus company.

      What is clear is that labor is a party driven by ideology with no connection to day to day reality that has engaged in squandering billions and billions of tax payer dollars chasing dreams of “social justice” and “equity” and a as Verity Firth pontificates for a “truer and juster” society.

      Labor chases this dream through an endless war on prosperity via aggressive taxation. Apparently less prosperity makes for a “truer and juster” society.

      This causes a a wild disconnect from reality as the only equality is our rights, not our hopes, dreams, ambitions, fears, abilities and opportunities.

      Laborites live a life of cognitive dissonance chasing the impossible trying to reduce everything to a dull shade of grey.

      Labor clearly doesn’t stand for anything other than keeping itself in power through aggressive taxation used to buy votes. Nice sounding quips like “social justice” mean nothing more than aggressive taxation used for this end. Really there is little to differentiate Labor from Chinese communists whose core ideology has fallen by the wayside and whose sole goal is to keep itself in power.

    • dizzyK says:

      10:21am | 28/03/11

      totally agree about the ideology stuff

      but really, wouldn’t it be irresponsible not to plan and build for public transport? I spent a couple of years on T-Way buses (from Norwest a couple of years ago) and it was a great service to Westmead and Parramatta. I’m not a rabid green or a lefty but I felt pretty good sailing past the traffic in the bus

    • shane says:

      09:09am | 28/03/11

      How is that different from the Libs?

      Howard shovelled so much money into buying the votes of major city suburbanites that it was embarrasing.

      Both parties are essentially the same. The public get sick of one, and in goes the other, endlessly round and round. Do you think that there will be a time in the future were the Libs will be in power forever? And even if that were the case, is that what you want? Is that healthy democracy?

    • Sony B Goode. says:

      09:27am | 28/03/11

      Agree, the Libs are barely any better then Labor.

      Politics seems to be a form of religion, what we need is some scientific basis for policy not meaningless ideological battle cries like “social justice” as excuses for aggressive taxation.

    • Random says:

      09:29am | 28/03/11

      Shane, at least Howard delivered a significant surplus and stable financial platform - and generally succeeded on delivering services and infrastructure - because the outcomes rather than processes were considered important.

      O’Farrells challenge now is to get rid of the endless consultancies that cost huge $$, recommend killing existing infrastructure to funnel customers,  and generally extend project timelines and budgets. If he does that, then Labor will be in the cold for many years.  And anyone that fights that process probably has a personal political agenda.

    • shane says:

      10:16am | 28/03/11

      Random, I’m not really having a go at Howard, though I’m not particularly a fan of his either. It’s just that I feel both parties are as capable and likely of unethical, crazy, stupid or whatever behaviour as the other.

      People get on these sites and scream about the horrors inflicted by ‘the other’, but they don’t seem to realise that for every instance of hypocrisy or lies they’ve identified, there are equal and just as numerous occasions of the same from ‘their’ party. And those instances will be flung back at them in comments from the other side’s hacks.

      The process is as endless as is the necessary and inevitable swapping of governments in our democracy.

      In a democracy it could be argued that changes of government are necessary and a sign of health. Discussions about isolated events of lies, hypocrisy or platitudes is like arguing with venom over whether dinner was good or not, its subjective and won’t really matter in 10 years, but we’ll all still be arguing about dinner in ten years with just as much venom and bile.

      Perspective is important.

    • Ryan says:

      10:43am | 28/03/11

      @shane: when we get to a point of losing our tribalism and start to demand that these people work for us and all decisions be in our best interest, then it doesn’t matter what party it its.

    • Random says:

      10:45am | 28/03/11

      I agree with the sentiment Shane, both sides can swing to the ends of the pendulum.

      One general observation however -
      * when Labor gets there the electorate is sick of them AND they completely fail in being an effective Government;
      * when the Conservatives get there the electorate is sick of them BUT they are generally still being an effective Government.

      Most of the time Conservatives are voted out on the idea that they are socially rather than financially bankrupt whereas Labor quite often is both.

    • TheRealDave says:

      04:39pm | 28/03/11

      @Random - I’m sorry - what infrastructure?

      Its all well and good building ‘surpluses’ but he did it on the back of not doing any bloody thing!

      Or did you think he jut magicked all that money into neat piles?

      Mind you, he’ snot only to blame. State Governments OF ALL FLAVOURS have been doing bugger all in the infrastructure department which is why we have issues with basics like water, roads, power, hospitals, schools etc

    • Dazeddazza says:

      09:17pm | 28/03/11

      Totally agree, when will political parties realise that the people are fed up with taxes to balance the books!!  Where has our money gone, we are selling off the farm, for what?  Where is the balanced budget to take into account national emergencies, infrastructure etc?  After this lesson, I hope that NSW can start to rectify the problems, followed by Queensland, and then Federally.  To quote John Lennon, “You may say that I’m a dreamer but I’m not the only one”.

    • Michael says:

      09:47pm | 28/03/11

      The real Dave, it’s good you bring up howard’s surplus and the state Governments in the same sentence, I think the states were mostly Labor run under howard and KRudd heralded a new era of cooperation and not passing the buck….remember? lol
      You are correct though when you suggest the federal surplus was from not spending federal funds on state issues, and from sell offs of federal assets, ie Telstra. There are the similarities you speak of yes, but, the differences are subtle yet monumental.

    • Muzz says:

      08:21am | 29/03/11

      “Howard shovelled so much money into buying the votes of major city suburbanites that it was embarrasing.”
      I’ve often heard this said.  Please enlighten me.

    • Adam says:

      09:36am | 28/03/11

      What has happened here is that people over the last 16 years have become sick of the ALP, and now said to the Libs is your turn to fix this state, but what people really want is someone who will actually stand up for them, someone who isn’t for the people but someone who is from the people and unfortunately someone like that does not exist in today’s modern government at any level.

    • Sony B Goode says:

      10:27am | 28/03/11

      It’s not a question of standing up for people, it’s a question of sound and scientific management practice.

      You can’t have the later when your core values are so out of touch with modern reality. Class warfare may have made sense a hundred years ago but is meaningless in today’s prosperous society.

      A war on prosperity is not the basis for sound management in government.

    • Warren says:

      10:28am | 28/03/11

      The trouble with getting someone who is “from the people” is you end up with Pauline Hanson or someone like her, along with a mish mash of populist policies. Popular in the short term before it turns into a train wreck when reality kicks in.

    • Ian says:

      10:08am | 28/03/11

      A change is like a breath of fresh air, hopefully…Labor will have to regroup with what they have got left…this does not include the unions.  As far as being the working peoples party that died off years ago…I wonder who is next.

    • Stiffy says:

      10:27am | 28/03/11

      Hey here’s a good idea, let’s reward Keneally for the great job she has done with a safe federal labor seat. Struth, the Hyphen or former jail serving drug dealer in charge of the Education Department has got the flick. What a blow to the State coffers that will be. Maybe he could have Tanya’s seat.

    • Aussie Wazza says:

      10:36am | 28/03/11

      On and on it goes, We chuck out one mob by replacing them with another that we will chuck out the next, or a few elections later.

      Each time we get a choice of CANCER or LEPROSY.

      Elections are LOST not won. If the people were ‘reasonably’ content with the mob in, we would prefer to keep ‘Who we know rather than the possible devil we don’t’.

      Politicians MUST realise they are our REPRESENTATIVES, not out leaders (masters).

      The people of each electorate vote for the person or party we believe will work to OUR advantage.

      We want them to get on with the job of GETTING THINGS DONE, but instead most of the time is spent RUBBISHING the other parties. Just watch parliment.

      Everyone in parliment has been elected by a majority in his/her electorate to put their desires forward. Everyone of them surely MUST have some good ideas toward this.

      But instead we get the nonsense that if one mob put forward an idea then the other MUST knock it.  Never mind that agreeing with the ‘opposition’ and getting something done might put them in good light. A good idea is a good idea, no matter where it comes from.

      Whether they know better (think they know better) than those they represent is irrelevant. We put them there to work as we tell them. We will give them the ideas; they submit them.

      Wake up pollies; learn you place in the circus. You are the clowns, not the lion tamer. Jump into the cage and act like a fool and you will get your head bitten off.

    • Robert S McCormick says:

      10:59am | 28/03/11

      “But who else is there?” The most intelligent question asked by any ALP supporter on Saturday night. Keneally, apparently, came in without too much baggage. She has that, apparently, all-important charisma. Her departure, for the moment, to the back-bench will do nothing to improve the ALP’s standing in the community - be it NSW, SA or any other part of Australia. Almost without exception the entire NSW ALP Parliamenary Party is so deeply entrenched in the practice of nepotism, favouritism, corruption, jobs-for-the-boys/girls that change for them will never be acceptable. The ALP has not been the working people’s party since, at least, 1972. The unions have, for many, become irrelevant. Just as the ALP dumped it’s Party of the Working Classes persona it is time it also dumped the Unions. For NSW grass-roots members of the ALP should start their own revolution, attend every significant branch & national meeting. Demand that everyone attached to Sussex Street be thrown out. It is interesting to note that the man who started the whole bloody mess, the AWU’s Paul Howes, is nowhere tobe seen or heard. At least Paul, unlike all the others in Sussex St, when they engineered the political assassination of Kevin Rudd, had the guts to stand up & identify himself. He picked the perfect patsy when he selected Julia Gillard to replace Rudd for he knew she was so desperate too fulfill her dream of becoming PM she would be blinded to the truth: The public, overall, would not accept the betrayal by her of Kevin Rudd - a person to whom she had repeatedly sworn total loyalty & support . The PM, she told us, had her “full backing” - what she omitted was that she carried a dagger behind her own back.
      That the ALP accepted they were going to be thrashed & ignominiously dumped out of office was a given. I am willing to bet that they never for one second thought that they would be thrashed so spectacularly! Yes, they expected to lose all seats with a margin of 10% or less. But they never in a million years thought that they would lose all those seats which they have held since those electorates were created. Seats the Liberal, also in a million years, never even dreamt they would win.
      The greatest benefit this election has had for our form of Democracy is the relegation of the Greens to irrelevance. Oh yes, we have the freedom to vote for any nutter we like. We may even elect one or two of them but we can almost guarantee that the voters will never, ever again give them the unfettered power they had &, disastrously, still have in the most important political arena in Australia: The Federal Parliament. Their removal from influence in NSW & Victoria is just the start.

    • Robert Smissen, rural SA, God's own country says:

      10:12am | 29/03/11

      Ghoulia promises far too easily to “Fully Back” people, remember when she shivved “Big Kim Beazely” in favour of her man MARK LATHAM! ! !

    • drsusancalvin says:

      12:14pm | 28/03/11

      The weirdest thing is how Mrs BarryOH. looks like KKs doppleganger.

    • Brad Coward says:

      04:24pm | 28/03/11

      I must have missed something, if that is the case.  I recommend a visit to the optometrist.

    • Mikko says:

      01:33pm | 28/03/11

      Labor just didn’t lose they suffered their worst loss ever in NSW to the extent that even Kerry O’Brien in the ABC tally room was stunned. Julia Gillard and her federal team can bluster and say it doesn’t reflect on them, and federal issues including the “carbon tax”  but it does and it will. The dominoes are falling and who topples next depends on whether we have a Qld election before the next federal poll.

    • Michael says:

      01:39pm | 28/03/11

      As strange as it sounds (and feels) to say it - I think Nathan Rees is the man who might just save labor. He is the only person in all of labor who had the strength of character and the conviction to TRUE labor values to actually call nsw labor for what they are - a corrupt bunch of oppportunists and scumbags… Even if Mr Rees was more polite than me. The only thing working against him is his relative inexperience, but he has the things that the rest of labor does not: honesty, decency and a backbone!

      For the record, I amnot a lbor voter and unless something changes pretty radically, I will never vote labor, but Mr Rees is the sort of person who we need in parliament and while I do not like the party he belongs to, I do respect him.

    • Wombat says:

      01:49pm | 28/03/11

      We all know the old saying

      GOOD BYE TO BAD RIDDANCE.

      At last most people are waking up to the Union Run Labour Party, that are just very Ordinary People, with their fingers in the Pie, and getting what they can for themselves out of it.

      Now bring on Qld, and toss Anna Blighe ( Blight) out also, then we maybe able to get back on the right foot again

    • Lemo says:

      02:09pm | 28/03/11

      If you think the rusted on Labor voters were hard on Labor this time around - I cant wait to see the backlash against the Libs if they let down their newfound supporters over the next 4 years - no hiding now Barry

    • Michael says:

      02:28pm | 28/03/11

      Lemo, I don’t know if that’s entirely true - but I do think we will ALL be horrified if he turns out to be as corrupt and as bad as labor were. That’s almost impossible but I think there will actually be bloood in the streets if it does happen.

      I think the real fight will be the unions/labor pupppetmasters who will fight the government in every way they can no matter what. It will be interesting to see the train strikes and the RTA resisiting any change. Just wait until the unions in state rail have their lolly bags taken away!

    • DL says:

      02:24pm | 28/03/11

      Why do so many people not like the Greens?

      I fail to see the “crazy policies” and the like?  To me they appear to want long-term infrastructure commitments and fair and just social policies?  Seems like having them as an influence in parliament is a good thing not a bad..

      This country would be much better off if a wider range of opinions was taken into consideration more often.

    • Bloggs says:

      04:23pm | 28/03/11

      Open your eyes.  Read the actual green policies on their web page.  Green stupidity is very easy to see.

    • Richard says:

      05:34pm | 28/03/11

      The Greens stand for higher taxes and more bureaucracy and more government debt. Such an approach destroys economies.
      Look at all the problems in Britain at the moment: there but for the grace of Howard goes Australia.

    • Anne_N says:

      02:10pm | 29/03/11

      In the grand scheme, the Greens are a very young party, like a child really, and I regard their policies along the line of a child’s wishlist to Santa…they’ll ask for all manner of outrageous things but we all know they’ll get those things that are most achieveable and practical.  It’s the adults’ jobs in parliament to curtail their enthusiasm.

    • John C says:

      02:46pm | 28/03/11

      To Kristina and all the other losers, let me just quote the immortal words of Bill Murray in Ghostbusters:

      ’ someone with your qualifications would have no trouble finding a top-flight job in either the food service or housekeeping industries.’

    • Gerard says:

      04:19pm | 28/03/11

      I don’t think she could even get those right…

    • Robert Smissen, rural SA, God's own country says:

      10:17am | 29/03/11

      What’sthe bet that she couldn’t cook with a packet mix?

    • Mikko says:

      02:58pm | 28/03/11

      Just Google Greens policies if you want to see crazy, DL. Unless you think closing down the mining industry, the manufacturing industry, the fishing industry, and ideologies such as falling in with a UN controlled world government are all sane and sensible ideas for Australia.

    • Tom says:

      03:08pm | 28/03/11

      DL, the Greens stand for high taxation, dangerous naiveity, disruptive meddling and cultish self righteousness. Perhaps that is why they are hated.

      “fair and just social policies”? Who decides what is fair? Throughout history there have been many rorts, acts of oppression, downright corruption and blugeoning of decent people all masquerading under the banner of social justice.

    • david says:

      03:13pm | 28/03/11

      i think that the the federal and now the NSW elections are highlighting a shift in how the electorate view the political system generally - and the fact that people power is limited to a single vote every three or four years.

      Representative government itself needs to be re-evaluated. Representation had a vital place when a nation of voters could not gather to decide on their future. This is no longer the case. Now technology gives us the opportunity to be more actively involved in the day to day decision making for our future.

      In our diverse and fast changing culture, no MP or party can ever fully and accurately represent the ‘people’. Last year’s result speaks for itself.

      In a nutshell - the technology that allowed us to vote for ‘Australian Idol’ has the potential to allow us all to vote on the carbon tax, refugees etc.

    • Aussie Wazza says:

      03:44pm | 28/03/11

      We are loosing industry (JOBS) to overseas had over fist because of our standards. Standards that give us a decent living. Standards that in many countries the workers or 99.9% of the population don’t enjoy.

      These standards cost money to manufacturing that you know which countries bypass.

      Now the greens and labour want to hike costs even further with their b/s carbon taxes to placate foreigners that wont themselves comply. So up will go Australian product costs and down will go whatever competitivness we have left.

      How interested in the weather do you think is that big country to our north that makes most of out consumer goods or that other overpopulated place that answers all our phone calls? I’ll tell you, They don’t give a stuff.

      Against that look at what Australia contributes to the problem.

      On a per capita basis—-well so what. We know how to control our breeding. We contribute a fart in a cyclone.

      This carbon tax helped nail N.S.W. labour. Imagine what it will do to the main mob.

    • Enrico says:

      04:00pm | 28/03/11

      The Greens are A grade dills.  They have their own extreme left-wing agenda to implement, which they are trying to do slowly.  Glad to be finally rid of the most corrupt and incompetent Government this state has ever known.

    • Brad Coward says:

      04:27pm | 28/03/11

      B, C & D grade dills, as well !

    • Brad Coward says:

      04:19pm | 28/03/11

      Paul Howes must be wondering where the safe seat, to be gifted to him at some stage, has disappeared to.  I’m reminded of clouds and silver linings.

    • notSue says:

      04:52pm | 28/03/11

      Some things I think about.

      1)” Begone gentlemen, you have sat too long” is why governments are voted out and oppostions aren’t voted in.

      2) The two party system is the best of a bad lot, democratically speaking. Multi-party coalition governments are unstable and unworkable. Just ask Italy.

      3) Party ideology is necessary in order to define policy -making..in theory. It’s a pity it doesn’t work that way in practice now. Too much political pragmatism to retain power for it’s own sake is allowing ad hoc policy making to make a mockery in the voters eyes of real governmental alternatives. The parties DO need to get real about what they actually stand for, if they want to retain any credibility and stop the never -ending- roundabout disillusionment with politics which we are currently experiencing.

      “A pox on both your houses” until they define themselves.A revisitation of the founding principals of their parties is a good place to start.. followed by some real contact with the electorate, not just electioneering. Integrity, I guess is what I think we’re all after.

    • Michael K says:

      07:20pm | 28/03/11

      Well-written and succinct points. Pragmatism has undoubtedly undermined NSW Labor: the sell-off of state-owned assets like State Lotteries speaks volumes.

    • Richard says:

      05:36pm | 28/03/11

      We need LESS government FULL STOP. You say that both sides are as bad as the other, and perhaps you have a point. But at least under the Libs we will usually end up with smaller government, less interference and better finances.

    • John A Neve says:

      07:40pm | 28/03/11

      Richard,

      You said “we need less government full stop”, and I agree. State governments should go, federal and local government is all we require.

      However, I worry about the second part of your post. The Liberal/National coalition has done little for this country at either the federal of state levels. Public assets where sold to pay off the national debt, roads, rail and health fell into decline. Part of this problem was of course a direct result of the split state/federal control, much of which could be over come by eliminating state governments.

      It is time our democracy had a full overhaul and some major changes.

    • Sony B Goode says:

      07:50pm | 28/03/11

      @richard: Agree, but I have read some of Abbotts stuff and quite frankly conservatives are too pre-occupied with appearing to be conservative and in acting slowly to make the sort or radical change necessary to bring government into the 21st century.

      At least the Republicans have the Tea Party to put a bomb under them and focus them more sharply at the “lets bankrupt capitalism” theme that socialists bring into power.  Let’s face it, Clinton’s sub-prime dictates have done more damage to the global economy than any soviet dictator could have dreamed of.

      At best you can say the left is incompetent but it’s such a recurring global pattern that you can’t help but start to think its deliberate damage to our system.

      There needs to be safeguards in place to protect us from the sorts of fiscal damage that Laborites love to inflict on our cities, states and country. Otherwise this pattern will just keep repeating ad nauseam.

    • Sony B Goode says:

      05:44pm | 28/03/11

      Labor’s party ideology seems to still be based on the premise of an underlying large numbers of down trodden masses.

      The endless rhetoric of social justice, presumes some form of rampant injustice. Just where is this injustice that isn’t covered by law? This may have made sense in an industrializing world but is just cognitive dissonance in a postindustrial, highly educated and connected society

      The flip side to Labors ideology is that it basically implies it doesn’t represent anyone who isn’t part of the down trodden masses. ie most of us.

      Cameron’s conservatives have tried hard to reinvent themselves as more “compassionate”, just how this will work is yet to be seen.

      Labor however has totally failed at every attempt to reinvent itself as fiscal conservatives, because they seem to think it means putting rock stars in charge of multi-billion dollar budgets who don’t even a vague clue as how to even manage a chook raffle. ie it has no competent business people, only union goons who know how to screw business.

      Seems to be a cycle that every time Labor gets in, it takes the conservatives a decade to clean up the financial mess they leave behind.

      Quite frankly I am a bit sick of this cycle, as it seems quite deliberate ploy by Laborites to keep our taxes needlessly high, while ironically much of the former socialist world has moved to low flat rate taxes.

      We need to change the constitution to prevent this rampant deficit financing that funds Laborite dreams of socialist utopia.

    • Michael K says:

      07:17pm | 28/03/11

      There needs to be another Labor schism. The suggestion that the Labor heartland - trade unionists, “tradies,” and blue-collared workers generally - need to have a more prominent role in the party cannot sit well with the socially-progressive policies of the “intellectual” left. The two factions cannot stand side-by-side; can you imagine a bunch of “blokes” championing gay marriage in the Labor party headquarters? Labor, at both a state and federal level, needs to leave the ideological wilderness before it becomes the antithesis of its founding principals.

    • Robert Smissen, rural SA, God's own country says:

      10:58pm | 28/03/11

      Watching Q & A tonight, I couldn’t believe how arrogant Tanya Plibesek was,Labor HAS NOT GOT THE MESSAGE! !

    • Stiffy says:

      07:36am | 29/03/11

      Now watch her husband get a golden parachute to some plush SES job in the Federal PS.

    • Robert Smissen, rural SA, God's own country says:

      11:00pm | 28/03/11

      Gracious in winng mean nothing if you can’t be gracious in defeat, obviously Christina K has yet to learn this valuable lesson

 

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