It took courage back in 2007 for then Prime Minister John Howard and Indigenous Minister Mal Brough to announce what was known as the intervention in Aboriginal communities across the Northern Territory. It was a rapid response to the Little Children are Sacred report, which revealed the terrifying reality of child abuse, health and social degradation within remote indigenous communities.

Squalor in an Alice Springs town camp. Pic: Steve Strike

The intervention was necessarily swift, as large numbers of police and army personnel moved in to communities in crisis.

Alcohol restrictions were put in place, medical examinations were carried out on indigenous children and school attendance was enforced, while 50 per cent of individuals’ financial welfare payments were quarantined for food and life essentials. While controversial at the time, the intervention had dramatic results, improving the health and welfare of children and reduced alcohol abuse in many indigenous communities.

For all its success, the intervention has shifted some problems. Much of the violence, extreme alcohol abuse and social dysfunction that the intervention addressed has moved to some of the Northern Territory’s large towns, such as Alice Springs, Katherine and Tennant Creek.

The condition of many indigenous people in Alice Springs is going from bad to worse. Hundreds are sleeping rough in the Todd River, alcohol and drug abuse is rampant, violence and sexual abuse are endemic, and most of the town camps are examples of third world squalor. Parts of remote Australia have taken on some of the characteristics of a failed state.

In the larger towns they have largely unrestricted access to alcohol, no accommodation and few support services. Hundreds, if not thousands of Aboriginal adults are idle; with similar numbers of school age children almost completely uncontrolled and unsupervised. This wouldn’t be acceptable for a single day in an ordinary Australian city or town and should not be tolerated among Aboriginal people on “cultural” grounds.

What is happening in some of our nation’s most famous townships is a national failure. This is not the fault of any particular government or any particular level of government. As a nation we must do better.

What’s needed is a new intervention, one more guided than before by the best indigenous leadership, as well as by an appreciation that levels of dysfunction that would be disastrous in Australian society at large are scarcely less so for Aboriginal people. For this to succeed it must be bipartisan, created and supported by all sides of politics.

The government’s announcement last week of extra lighting, better family support services and more work-for-the-dole places in Alice Springs owes something to these concerns. It’s a step in the right direction but I doubt these measures alone will make much difference.  I wish to urge the government to undertake far more substantial action and offer my help in overcoming any opposition that might be encountered to common sense measures.

I’ve proposed to the Prime Minister that we undertake a joint trip to Alice Springs to consult with community leaders and to work out the details of a new intervention.

It will also have to involve more responsibility on the part of Aboriginal communities, families and individuals and a clear cut acceptance of people’s obligation to go to work and to attend school.

The elements of a new intervention could include:

  • A much larger police presence in Alice Springs.
  • An influx of experienced teachers and a vigorous insistence on compulsory school attendance for all school aged children, with members of the night patrol employed to assist in getting children to school and fines for the parents of delinquents.
  • An insistence on compulsory work programmes for people on unemployment benefits, with enforcement of no work, no pay rules.
  • A new alcohol management plan because controlling demand will eventually be as important as controlling supply as well as frequent police patrols of town camps.
  • Reconsideration of welfare quarantine rules to ensure that families on benefits are spending enough on the necessities of life.
  • Conversion of the town camps to regular housing.
  • Importantly, the appointment of a senior Commonwealth officer (who would be guided by a council of traditional owners) with whole-of-government responsibility for all indigenous programmes in Alice Springs and other towns, plus the authority to direct other government services, such as police, on indigenous matters.
  • One of the problems with the intervention was its “top down” nature.  It was announced without prior consultation with Aboriginal people many of whom applauded its goals and supported its measures but regretted its imposition without reference to them. A good way to avoid this would be for the Prime Minister and myself, to invite the leading indigenous people of Alice Springs, Katharine and Tennant Creek to a summit at which changes such as those I have put forward could be discussed and decided.

Better and more thorough policing, enforced controls on alcohol, mandatory participation in school and work, plus suitable welfare quarantine provisions can quite quickly make a difference. That, in any event, has been the lesson of the intervention and it’s surely time to apply that lesson to other dysfunctional places.

In my judgment, this would be a worthy task on which the two parties could cooperate and a suitable sign to the Australian community that there remain important civic values that span the party divide.

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    • acotrel says:

      04:42am | 24/03/11

      The ‘intervention’ in the Northern Territory was belated, and only occurred when John Howard had a problem with the voters.  He used the aborigines as election fodder.  Are you trying to do the same, Tony?

    • Phil says:

      06:28am | 24/03/11

      You dope. This would have to be the most A political piece ever written by a senior politition less the leader of the opposition who has a long history of caring for and seeking to better life for aboriginals.
      I am quite sure many aboriginals hate Tony Abbott, but they may have a particular axe to grind, perhaps some of them dont like their lives if you call them that messed with and seek to abuse alcohol, drugs and children.
      If you for one minuite think that the system is great in aboriginal communities you need a good slap in the face.
      Mal Brough, love or hate him had a passion to seeing his people looked after and see children abused by alcoholic drug dependant parents. I said at the time and even wrote to Kevin Rudd suggesting that a bi partisan appointment of Mal Brough would be the best thing in the nations interest and get a lot of points from liberal voters.
      See I for one get frustrated when people dont want to help themselves, unfortunately and this is from reports not first hand experience which the author has, many of these communities have been let go by subsequent governments for far too long and intervention and major changes like the intervention is probably the only way it will ever work.

      I challange those against this type of action to provide their own plan of how to tackle this terrible issue rather than just shoot Tony Abbott down.

    • Tedd says:

      07:46am | 24/03/11

      Phil,

      Mr Abbott may care, but this piece is not ‘a-political’.

      It smacks of an attempt to bring Tony Abbott in from the boundary fence where he has positioned himself on a number of issues, particularly climate, and to put those issues on the outer.

      Good on you for supporting Mal Brough - he has been a champion for positive action. Nut no, we can’t really see you get frustrated.

    • Steve smith says:

      07:57am | 24/03/11

      I agree with you Acotrel, John Howard used the Aboriginal people to attempt to win an election, and he successfully used to boat people to win an election.
      Bad apples don’t fall far from the Liberal family tree and Tony Abbott is a prime example .

    • Phil says:

      08:06am | 24/03/11

      Above a word is omitted NOT abused by

    • Tony of Poorakistan says:

      08:16am | 24/03/11

      Well said, Phil. No surprise that Abbott is held in high regard by sections of the Aboriginal demographic. 
       
      And, as usual, the ALP toadies have no alternate solution. I wonder if that sleazy redhead will come up with yet another tax for those of us who actually pay taxes - maybe an Indigenous Services Levy, means tested so ALP voters don’t have to pay it.

    • ZSRenn says:

      08:51am | 24/03/11

      @ acotrel Bi-Partisan support of any scheme in Australia to solve this problem which has been around since before federation.

      I have lived in Mt Isa for several years and the problems are the same there as well. As a pilot I was travelling between the local communities in an area that covered Alice Springs in the South, Broome in the West, Cairns in the East and Darwin to the North.

      These problems are endemic in this entire large area. I have worked with people trying to establish the very first Community Development and Education Program (CDEP) in Doomadgee which was destroyed by Aboriginal Activist Nigel Mansel claiming it was unfair as workers were not getting similar pay for similar work to their city cousins which the community could not afford..

      I flew a joint committee of senators to sites looking at the problems then as the government and opposition of the time felt that Bi-partisan support was the only way to resolve these issues. 

      We visited sites that were built to house Aboriginals that were living in car bodies next to a river bed to find it empty because the locals did not like the taste of the fresh water provided.

      This is a major problem that needs the commitment from both sides to work. In the past you have claimed that a good name for TA is Mr. No. Well now is a good time for Julia to prove her name is not Miss No.

      This is a very sad state of affairs up north and in the bush and playing your and Julia’s party politics will not fix it.

      We need strong Bi-Partisan support if it stands any chance of survival at all because you can be sure that as was the case with Nigel Mansel there will be a self centered Aboriginal leader or group out there who will claim unfair and try and dismantle it for their own gains and at the detriment of the people.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomadgee,_Queensland

    • Govt.FauxCitzen says:

      08:56am | 24/03/11

      Ther’s no pleasing some, damned if you do and damned when you want to do, well damn the LaboUr party because they DON"T East Timor included.

    • Phil says:

      08:58am | 24/03/11

      Tony Note no alternatives.

      Steve Smith what have you ever done for your people? Like Christian Real I doubt very much except for moan and complain.

    • Jim says:

      10:02am | 24/03/11

      @acotrel…not many things get me fired up old man…but your racist and unintelligent comment has done just that.

      How dare you trivialise the problems in the NT by using it to continue your juvenile political pointscoring against Howard and Abbott?? You usually don’t know shit from clay, and your severe lack of intellect has shone through big time this morning.

      Being all snuggled up nice and cosey in your rural Victorian retreat you have absolutley no right to comment on what was happening or why the intervention was needed. Same goes for the latte-sipping jerks who rarely step out of Newtown.

      I’ve seen it first hand, I’ve lived it. Even after the intervention was rolled out, the media releases were very much watered down from the truth. What went on in those communities would make most peoples skin crawl. Kids - some of them just babies - raped so violently they need colostomy bags. Dogs put down after being sexually abused. And the violence, you will never see anything so frightenening.

      My first exposure to this was the only time I have felt ashamed of my heritage.

      Howard did the right thing for the right reasons. It’s jerks like you that try and make what he did sinister.

    • Syl says:

      02:10pm | 24/03/11

      Ahhh Acotrel

      How suprising, attack the man, not the plan. 

      We get it, you don’t like Abbott (hell neither do I), but even when he makes sense you have to run off on an unrelated rant.  FFS for once try and prove that your an intelligent adult who actually listens to both sides of the argument and comes up with a reasoned opinion, rather than a Labor hack who can barely string two sentences together without an attack on conservatives or Abbott.

      This actually sounds like a good plan to me.  Regardless of Abbotts intentions, noble or underhanded, improving conditions in these rural aboriginal communities in a practical way (i.e. not just throwing money at them) is very important.

    • Rick says:

      03:39pm | 24/03/11

      What so you mean Phony Tony has an actual policy….........well at least he’s thinking of forming a idea to consider the possibility of formulating an action plan to come up with the outline of a proposal to form a guideline to consider the possibility of some sort of policy

    • acotrel says:

      03:54am | 25/03/11

      @Jim Amongst our politicians Paul Hasluck was most progressive in his attitude towards aboriginals.  He was in government in the 60s.  It is now 2011 and the problems still exist.  How long was the Howard government in power before it acted, and then notably just before an election which it would clearly be lucky to survive?  Howard’s actions on the aborigines, while welcome and necessary, were obviously driven by poltical desperation? What are we now to think about Tony Abbott’s concerns? In the past his every action could be seen as collecting brownie points towards his own political future. Is this latest effort different? I suggest it’s simply Tony Abbott doing his hyperbole - ‘see the whole country is in a mess’ !  Next he’ll start using the big words - like ‘DYSFUNCTIONAL’ ?

    • acotrel says:

      04:22am | 25/03/11

      @Tony of Poorakistan ‘That sleazy redhead’ is the ELECTED PM of Australia.  Please have a bit of respect for the office, and recognise the will of the electorate has been exercised! Tony Abbott is out in the cold - GET OVER IT!

    • acotrel says:

      04:24am | 25/03/11

      ‘It took courage back in 2007 for then Prime Minister John Howard and Indigenous Minister Mal Brough to announce what was known as the intervention in Aboriginal communities across the Northern Territory’

      More like DESPERATION ! !

    • Sally says:

      10:24am | 25/03/12

      It is sad to read all your well educated words, I am sure all of you have had an excellent education and are very very intelligent.
      I would like to say ‘I am an aboriginal child that was sexualy abused and all your comments make me sick” I would not have cared what political intentions any one had, what election fodder they where trying to use. I JUST WANTED SOMEONE TO HELP ME. So next time you are trying to prove how intelligent you are on these types of sites.Just try to remember a frightened little girl unable to scream or speak ,scared and all alone. Put aside what political parties that you think are right and just try to be a descent human being.

    • Catching up says:

      06:09am | 24/03/11

      Where is the proof that the intervention was a success.  I would say that the problem has not been solved but moved elsewhere, such as the town camps.

    • Phil says:

      06:29am | 24/03/11

      So what would you do?

    • Rose says:

      09:34am | 24/03/11

      There is none. Most independent studies have found quite the opposite. It is also time that the Liberal Party stopped using the Little Children are Sacred Report to justify the Intervention. Of nearly 100 recommendations in that report only one was adopted. The intervention also happened within about a week of that report being released, just going to show that the Intervention was nothing to do with protecting Aboriginal children but more to do with satisfying right wing ideology, a land grab and removing any hope of Aboriginal self management.

    • LauraBoBaura says:

      12:48pm | 24/03/11

      @Rose - ‘Aboriginal self management’ is a ridiculous phrase to use in this circumstance and if you have ever been to any of the Aboriginal communties out bush that have to live with the issues of drug & alcohol abuse, violence & sexual assault, you’d know why. There is zero chance of self management in these places.

    • Rose says:

      01:49pm | 24/03/11

      Then were all screwed LauraBoBaura because if Aboriginal self management can’t work, nothing ever will. Just quietly though, how do you know it could never work, it’s never been truly tried!
      Phil, I don’t know have the solutions, nobody does. What I do know is that we need to stop treating Aboriginal communities as if they are all the same, they aren’t. There should be a far greater emphasis on local management and we should be looking around the world at places where there has been success and helping communities adopt models that have a fighting chance. Finally we need to stop dictating what we think is the way communities should live and talk to them, find out what they want and need and give them appropriate resources to deal with their issues. Look at the recommendations of reports such as Little Children are Sacred and use those instead of highjacking the report to support bullshit measures such as the intervention.

    • LauraBoBaura says:

      02:10pm | 24/03/11

      @Rose - I’m sure eventually Aboriginal self management in these places will work. But not any time soon.

    • acotrel says:

      04:17am | 25/03/11

      @LauraBoBaura.  You obviously don’r see any aborigine as being equal to yourself.  Do you ‘self- manage’- your own life?  With the attitude you’ve expressed the aborigines have no hope.  They might as well go back to waging war against us! I don’t believe we will ever imbue aborigines with white man’s values, but we must find a way that they can live decent lives. What is your suggestion?  I wonder what greaat inspired idea Tony Abbott has for them, and whether he’s ever asked them how they see their future needs?

    • Michael says:

      08:18am | 25/03/11

      Rose, do accept that your idea requires indigenous participation to stand even a chance of working?
      Aboriginal self management or self determination, requires a conscious effort to change or improve your own situation by seeing what alternatives are available.
      Not the quiet destruction of a race, by people who swear they have indigenous people’s best interests at heart, people not dissimilar to you rose

    • Carz says:

      06:19am | 24/03/11

      The intervention worked? How do you figure that Tony? Alcohol restrictions were already in place, put there voluntarily by the communities. There was already a process in place for health checks of the children yet your government decided to double up on this, clearly a good use of tax payer’s money. Your own Task Force review committee highlighted numerous problems, not least the fact that it is impossible to gauge how successful a program is when there is no base-line data.

      By the way Tony, are the little children any safer? Funny how not a single intervention measure had anything at all to do with preventing the sexual abuse of children which, after all, was what “The Little Children Are Sacred” report was about.

    • Kevin says:

      06:42am | 24/03/11

      Howard ignored most of the recommendations of the “Little Children Are Sacred”  report which was the trigger for the original intervention.

    • Steve Smith says:

      06:44am | 24/03/11

      Your comment:Mr Abbott
      I disagreed with the Liberal party intervention, and I still do because it was discrimination against our Aboriginal people.
      I disagree also with your participation in the so called ‘Peoples revolt’ rally that took place in front of our parliament House yesterday.
      The fact that you failed to speak out against the undemocratic and un-Australian banners and signs yesterday, indicates that you condoned the utter and disgraceful filth and derogatory name calling that was written on them.
      As a Leader Mr Abbott, you are a total disgrace for condoning the disrepect, the lack of morals(Christian or otherwise) and integrity on display yesterday.
      The fact that you continue to try to trash and disrepect our Parliament, the Office of Prime Minister and our elected Prime Minister clearly shows that you are unfit to ever become Prime Minister of our great Country, and you,along with your name calling,Un-Australian colleagues should remove yourself from our Parliament by standing down and resigning immediately.
      You portray yourself as a Christian Mr Abbott, but you a certainly not a Christian by your distateful actions and Un-Australian antics.
      In fact Mr Abbott you are more like one of Satan’s arch Angel’s than being seen as a person of Christian upbringing.

    • ZSRenn says:

      09:05am | 24/03/11

      If you can’t attack the massage attack the author hey Steve. It is because of people like you this subject needs Bi-partisan support.

      People are suffering in the Aboriginal communities. I have seen 2-3 year old children drinking from gooners because their parents fell asleep after consuming too much alcohol and their being nothing else to drink or no one to supervise them.

      Your comments tell me that you would not let this be stopped at any cost because it is discrimination against our Aboriginal people.

      Just how is it discrimination? If this occurred in any one family, black or white, in the city DOCS would be in and remove the children. How is it discrimination to try and stop it happening in a whole Aboriginal community?

    • Tom says:

      03:10pm | 24/03/11

      You are a very hard person Mr Smith. What are you doing to protect children from being raped? All you do is mouth off your cheap cliches when children’s safety is at risk.

    • dan-e says:

      09:10am | 25/03/11

      here. here. Well bespoke.

    • Jade says:

      06:47am | 24/03/11

      You need to come down hard, that’s the only way to solve the issues.  Working side by side with Aboriginal Elders will make it much easier as well, they have incite into what is really going on and going wrong in these communities.

    • PaulB says:

      08:34am | 24/03/11

      There aren’t many traditional elders left to work with.  In a culture that these days views going to jail as an initiation rite and demonstration of manhood, then there aren’t going to be many elders in the future that are worth working with.

    • Truganini says:

      09:07am | 24/03/11

      I like the way you used the word incite jade
      Incite - To provoke and urge on: troublemakers who incite riots.
      instead of
      Insight - The capacity to discern the true nature of a situation.
      You jade are very inciteful on most topics. Not a lot of substance or education it would appear. just hatred as evidenced by your other comments on aboriginals.

    • Jade says:

      09:39am | 24/03/11

      Lol @ Truganini… my bad… *insight*..... sheesh I had just woke up.  I don’t “hate” Aboriginal people.  I am friends with quite a few people of Aboriginal decent, I grew up in a town with a large aboriginal population. 

      I hate the fact that everyone expects Aboriginal Australian’s and White Australian’s to be seen as equal, yet they are happy to allow such one sided arguments (as the other punch story) and a one sided benefit system which clearly benefits one group of people (due to the colour of their skin) more than the other… I don’t see that as equal. 

      Now before I get the “oh don’t you want them to take away from your dole payment line” or what ever lame insult you will try, I am not on the dole, never have been and never intend to be.

    • Rabbit in a Hat says:

      07:18am | 24/03/11

      Oh yes, your former leader showed grear courage. Ignoring the problem for more than a decade and ripping funding out from any community projects that were aimed at easing the alcohol problems in the Top End.
      Perhaps we could try a solution that does break international human rights law?

    • Tedd says:

      07:27am | 24/03/11

      “For all its success .. ” seems to be contradicted by

      “The condition of many indigenous people in Alice Springs is going from bad to worse. Hundreds are sleeping rough in the Todd River, alcohol and drug abuse is rampant, violence and sexual abuse are endemic, and most of the town camps are examples of third world squalor. Parts of remote Australia have taken on some of the characteristics of a failed state.”

      and [snip]

      “What is happening in some of our nation’s most famous townships is a national failure.”

      Did you properly read all those words written for you, Tony?

    • PeterMax says:

      07:30am | 24/03/11

      Julia Gillard and her team have no idea of how to successfully solve the very many serious problems in the Northern Territory. They are making it worse.  It would be best for Labor to leave the Coalition to solve this problem so that progress can be made instead of going backwards.

    • Rose says:

      09:44am | 24/03/11

      The Coalition?? What did they ever do to improve the lives of any Indigenous person except for Noel Pearson? The Intervention was guided by ideology, not evidence. There are hundreds of examples world wide of how to help indigenous disadvantage but the Coalition ignored pretty much all of them. To Labor’s great shame they have not ended the Intervention either. Fact remains, there is not one single government that has done anything to really improve indigenous welfare, most, including Howard, have enacted policies which have made the situation worse.

    • Phil says:

      11:27am | 24/03/11

      Rose so what should they do?

    • iansand says:

      07:38am | 24/03/11

      Good on you, Mr Abbott.  If you can do something to take indigenous affairs out of the crap that is politics in Australia at the moment you will have achieved something worthwhile.  There is a problem.  It must be fixed.  All sides need to acknowledge that, they need to develop a plan that is above partisan politics and that plan has to be carried through for as long as it takes.

      Playing politics with human misery, whoever does it, is contemptible.

    • acotrel says:

      04:04am | 25/03/11

      @iansand
      ‘Playing politics with human misery, whoever does it, is contemptible’

      There has been a history of this within one party in particular - dole bludgers, disability pensioners, the homeless, boat people, aborigines - they’ve all had their turn in the barrel!

    • Nigel says:

      07:40am | 24/03/11

      I have a concern about most of the points within this arcticle/blog. Most of them are aimed at a part of OUR community that likes the hand outs which come from the tax payer, however have no intention of intergrating into the moden day Australian society. We are not talking all, just a part. Yes their culture is different, and wonderful, however we are a nation that is not controlled by this. By all means teach, highlight and be proud of these historical events. It is time that all AUSTRALIANS were treated equal, and I mean very equal. Work get paid, if someone does not work then there should be an incentive to do so. Less hand outs, more hand ups. My god I sould like you now Tony. What I am trying to say is that all people coming into our society should know that they have to conform. Be proud of their history and culture, but intergrate to the majority.
      There is another blog today regarding closing the gap. I see the above as widening the gap as the white Australians see all these things as more tax money spent to seperate not intergrate Australians.

    • CABAL says:

      09:14am | 24/03/11

      True equality is a myth, the world would tear itself to pieces in a matter of days if real absolute equality was ever properly enforced. The same for absolute freedom but thats another barrel of laughs.

      I have to agree with you on giving more money (tax payer money) to a section of our society that contributes nothing, is going to make the indigenous Aussies resent the government and the rest of us hate the government for treating them special because at some point in the distant past they lived here and we didn’t (two hundred odd years on, I just have to ask why the hell are we still paying for our ancestors mistakes?)

    • ZSRenn says:

      09:40am | 24/03/11

      I am all for equality and this is the equality that should be enforced.

      A white child in the city living with alcoholic drug dependant parents are removed by DOC’s

      An Aboriginal child living in Alice Springs with alcoholic drug dependant parents should also be removed.

      There you go equality in action!

    • acotrel says:

      07:45am | 24/03/11

      @peterMax
      ‘Julia Gillard and her team have no idea of how to successfully solve the very many serious problems in the Northern Territory. ’
      That’;s obviously what Abbott is trying to assert!  Last week it was fashionable to bash asylum seekers.  This week it’s aborigines, Next week it will probably be ‘dole bludgers’ (welfare recipients).  When will the retirees get their turn?

    • Lily J says:

      09:37am | 24/03/11

      After students, single mothers and 4wd owners silly!

    • Knemon says:

      08:02am | 24/03/11

      What an unbelievably sad and difficult problem this whole sorry saga is. Tony Abbott calling for a bipartisan approach, even wanting to hold hands with Julia Gillard in Alice Springs proves just how difficult this is for all governments.

      While the majority of those that you are trying to help can not help or care for themselves, then what hope does anyone have of providing a solution to the problems?  A bipartisan approach would be a good start though.

    • evacox says:

      08:26am | 24/03/11

      I have gone through the so called evidence for the intervention working and it does not show children are safer, or there is reduced alcohol crimes etc. There are some gains but also damage to what was happening eg CDEP losses. Thie problem is that both the ALP and Coalition agree on bad policies that don’t work

    • TheRealDave says:

      08:41am | 24/03/11

      Jeez…another rAbbott puff piece?

    • TimB says:

      09:32am | 24/03/11

      Puff piece? Really?

      Dave, what’s it like to be so filled with blind hatred that it leaves you deprived of any ability to conjure a rational thought?

      Tony is trying to come up with solutions to a real problem. If you’ve got an actual specific problem with the content of the piece itself, say so.
      If not, leave the discussion to those who have something useful to contribute.

    • TChong says:

      09:53am | 24/03/11

      C’mon Tim, dont be so rusted on blind that you cant see this as a public relations stunt by Abbott.
      A decade plus of doing nothing by a govt that Abbott was always a part of, then an 11th hour conversion, and now, demands for bipartisanship- all a con, and a distraction by Abbott.
      (He doesnt want punters questioning what he would do about global warming, over than waste tax payers money subsidising big business)
      I thought your political smarts were better then that Tim.

    • TimB says:

      11:41am | 24/03/11

      PR Stunt?

      I thought you knew better than that TChong.

      Regardless of what the Howard government did or did not do, Tony’s been on top of this issue for quite some time. Much of it before he had all the cameras on him as Opposition leader. To cheapen his actions by refering to them as a PR stunt or a puff piece as Dave has done is low in the extreme.

      So how about instead of trying to tear him down with your petty political point scoring, why not acknowledge that there is an issue, and Tony is trying to help fix it?

    • gra gra says:

      09:16am | 24/03/11

      Ah, the wondrous dexterity of the catholic mind. Abbott forgets to tell us how many prosecutions there were as a result of Howard’s “courage” in, again, using children for his own iniquitous purpose. From his own words, (?), Abbott seems to have taken half a page to write “Failure!” As disgusting as it was for both he and Howard to take the road of political advantage, rather than to actually ‘do’ something beneficial for these poor little blokes, (who really have no say in their future), it is even more disgusting that he raises the issue again now with the added imperitive. “This time we will involve the elders”.  What a sad indictment of this evil opportunist who, like his Vatican leaders, will always manipulate the little children to his own interest.
      Sometimes I wish there was a just God.

    • Rose says:

      09:48am | 24/03/11

      Don’t think for one minute that Abbott’s mind is ‘Catholic’. As a Catholic I cringe every time his religion is mentioned as most of what he does and says is so against the values I was taught as a Catholic.

    • Jim says:

      10:09am | 24/03/11

      gra gra…I lump you in the same bucket as acotrel, Rosie and Steve Smith and call each one of you racist by trying to demonise what the intervention was about.
      It was the best thing for us and is the start of a solution we have needed for decades. Could it have been done better? Absolutely…a lot of us trekked across the border and made it QLD’s problem.

      Go spend a night in any remote community, then you might be qualified to make comment. Until then, take your politicising and piss off.

    • Benny says:

      09:56am | 24/03/11

      gra gra, wow man you have real issues - hate at Tony, hate at the LNP, hate at the church.
      What’s the solution????????
      It’s fine for everyone to bag everything, but how about coming to the table with some suggestions.!!!! Good bad or indifferent, at least it shows you actually thought about it.

    • Ben says:

      09:59am | 24/03/11

      “The Intervention worked.  But now we need an Intervention into the Intervention because it’s not working.”  Good one, Tony.  That makes complete sense.  In fact, the evidence emerging from Intervention No 1 reveals that it hasn’t worked - health standards haven’t improved, school attendance hasn’t changed, basic human rights have been suspended and many Aboriginal communities have been left further disempowered, disengaged and disillusioned.  It’s about time that Australian Governments - of all political persuasions - move away from paternalistic, top-down approaches and towards community-based, participatory policy making.  Then we might finally start to see the rhetoric of “closing the gap” become an actual reality.

    • Shane From Melbourne says:

      10:42am | 24/03/11

      A “Sink or Swim” policy might work better in the long run. God knows nothing else has worked…..

    • Fred Fehlhaber says:

      11:25am | 24/03/11

      What is the answer   WHO would know   as what ever help some people get it will never be enough ( black white brown green or red )
      Because the HELP GIVERS are damed if the do and damed if they don’t.
      There are some of us out there giving our best to help but it is very dissapointing when you give and all you get in return is it is not enough
      some people it will never be enough but do we give up NO

    • gra gra says:

      11:34am | 24/03/11

      Jim, are you serious? You resolve your community’s problem by moving yourself to Qld? And I’ve spent many a night in remote areas, past and present. And you say the issue isn’t political?  I never “demonised” the situation, Howard did. For his own purpose. You know that.
      Benny.. I don’t ‘hate’ Abbott, the LNP, or the ‘church’. ( I did nominate the Catholic Church). No, I despise them all, both for their equal hypocrisy and for their separate duplicity. And if I “bagged” them, one and all, without coming up with solutions, isn’t that what you’ve done to me? Hypocrite!
      Your bloke supposedly said, “Suffer little children to come unto me”. Howard thought he meant it.

    • LauraBoBaura says:

      01:03pm | 24/03/11

      I don’t think that Jim ever said that he personally moved to QLD to avoiid intervention, but a lot if Kooris did.

    • mary monica roche says:

      11:35am | 24/03/11

      If Tony Abbott gets a Limitless brain, he will be dangerous.
      If elected, Tony Abbott would flounder in the Prime Minister’s job.
      if elected Tony abbott would sell off or abolish all Australian Government, All Australian Departments and all Australian federal parliaments.
      The Northern Territory intervention would extend to all states and all welfare recipients.

    • Beck of Kenso says:

      11:59am | 24/03/11

      I attended a rally against the NT Intervention held by some Aboriginal groups at Sydney Town Hall on Sunday, and I heard some very interesting statistics:

      - 8000 Aboriginal children’s situations in NT have been reviewed, and only 37 cases were severe enough to warrant removing them from their homes. That’s less than 0.5%. I bet the wider community has worse stats than that.
      - The Intervention was supposed to help children who were being abused, but there have been no proven cases of paedophilia amongst the Aboriginal community in NT. If we can bust a major worldwide paedophilia ring, shouldn’t we be able to do the same in NT?? Perhaps the reason we haven’t proven any cases of paedophilia is because they don’t exist.
      - The incidence of self-harm amongst NT Abrogines has doubled since the Intervention
      - The incidence of death (not sure if this is death in custody or suicide) has increased from 10 to 84 per annum since the intervention.

      Now, I haven’t verified these stats, because frankly, I wouldn’t know where to begin. But, they suggest to me that maybe we’re not hearing all the details around the Intervention, and I think we need to consider the agenda of the governments that have implemented and maintained the Intervention, rather than just taking them at face value.

    • malohi says:

      12:50pm | 24/03/11

      Tony,
      I don’t know if you will read this, but here it goes.

      I strongly agree withthe elements listed, and in a perfect world this would apply to all at risk communities in australia, black white or other.
      However, think of the amount of public service members and $$ needed for each town. It would certainly outnumber the population and earning capacity of the townsfolk.

      (Am I too cold hearted beacause I wonder..)
      If these remote communities are not working as “acceptable” societies, and it would appear to me alot is due to their remote nature;
      Why do we prop these communities on such a bed of cash?

      Surely at some point we have to accept that society expects a standard of living to be maintained and this outwieghs the white mans remorse that allows the indigenous to continue living remote (they need thier bush culture etc..). Like the rest of society, if they can sustain themselves, go ahead and live remote. But proping up these communities on taxpayers money is no solution.

      Bring the problem to the cure (education, hospitals, support, housing accountability, maintanance, information, entertainment, JOBS!!) and throw money at the cure.
      I don’t suggest this would be easy, it would certainly entail large scale governemnt housing (townhouses) near or in major cities, which would bring its own problems. But at least then if more funds are given to the public service, it would not require a mass diaspora of staff, and the rest of society may benefit from the added funds aswell.

      I can see the problem of NIMBY etc.. but really I don’t see it working any other way. This is the executive decision that must be made. It may not get you marks in the womens day poll. But it would be leadership.

      I do feel for the indigenous, especially the children. not because of white man guilt, but because i do not see hope in remote communities and no hope out there means we all suffer in here because we cant accept this standard of living, that is what it means to live in a society.

      You cant say on one hand they have the rights to live how and where they want and on the other hand say that the rest of us must take swift action to ensure they have an equitable standard of life. It is not them and us. It is just US.

      Get over the white man guilt and move on with common sense.
      Cheers big ears.

    • gra gra says:

      01:45pm | 24/03/11

      Beck of Kenso… Well said old son, exactly what so many of us are thinking.
      LauraBo Baura or something… He said” A lot of us moved over the border….”
      That’ll do me.
      Abbott said the intervention didn’t work. It simply moved the problem from here to there. What he means, but lacks the courage to say is, “My beloved Leader got it wrong. He stuffed up!” But Abbott has always lacked courage. That’s why he won’t condemn the actions of various church staff members, (Catholic, Anglican, Lutheran, and other wierdos), for their horrendous abuse of children, black, white, or of any other color or race. That is what the
      Jims and the Bennys of this world fail to be able to admit. That the former priest has a greater loyalty than to the children of Australia. He has a commitment to the Vatican. And that is dangerous for this Nation.

    • H MacLeod says:

      04:03pm | 24/03/11

      By almost all empirical reports (e.g. NAAJA’s Themis Report) and independent reports (e.g. Peter Yu’s report on the NTER, commissioned by the Cth Govt),  as well as a mountain of anecdotal reports (compiled primarily by community organizations) the NTER has been an “abject failure” (NT Govt spokesmen for minister Lawrie).

      Apart from the unfortunate amount of substantive nonsense in this article (e.g. “conversion from town camps to regular housing) the thrust of Abbott’s move on this one reeks of dirty politicking.

      Australians ought to think (and maybe even research) before they buy into any of this drivel.

      NB// Chances Tony Abbott actually wrote any of this article: slim.

    • LC says:

      05:19pm | 24/03/11

      Jog my memory: Wasn’t the aboriginal community alcohol ban turfed out because it was unconstitutional?

    • GB says:

      06:29pm | 24/03/11

      And as usual we get the usual garbage from the likes of Steve Smith, Acotrel,TChong etc. Even when he extends an olive branch and calls for bipartisanship you jump all over him. I’ll take Noel Pearson’s opinion of Abbott over yours thanks very much.
      I’d hazard a guess Abbott has done more for these people in his own time and without seeking any fanfare, than the lot of you combined.
      The closest Gillard & Rudd have ever got to these communities without a camera present is when they fly over the top of them on their next taxpayer funded jaunt or listening to Peter Garrett singing Beds Are Burning.
      This is an extremely serious issue and you want to play party politics over it?
      Utterly pathetic.

    • Jefff Harmerson says:

      07:26am | 25/03/11

      I make 120K a year overseeing NTER, i was almost redundant when this came along. its a gravy train for public servants that i hope won’t stop. I have got no IT skills this is great.

    • Shifty says:

      03:10pm | 31/03/11

      I’ve travelled this country extensively and I can tell you the problems in these communities are real and it is very depressing to witness. Some action is better than none I can assure you all.

 

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