As Tony Abbott pressed the flesh at a community morning tea in suburban Melbourne on Wednesday, there was a moment of delightful candour.

“If I don’t win this election I’ll have to leave the country,” he told a well-wisher. “I’d be the world’s greatest pariah.”

Just a couple of hours after that, Julia Gillard fired the starter’s gun for the longest campaign in Australian history with her announcement that polling day will be September 14.

And the pressure on Abbott immediately increased because he knows that the election is seen as his to lose. 

Gillard’s slim survival hopes rest almost entirely on public misgivings about the Liberal leader.

But Abbott is doing something clever.

He is harnessing the popularity of rival Malcolm Turnbull - the man he deposed as Liberal leader - to maximise his chances of avoiding pariah status.

There is still some speculation about Turnbull as a possible challenger if Abbott stumbles.

But he featured prominently alongside the Coalition leadership team in those TV commercials launched last weekend as part of Abbott’s mini-campaign. And he will play an important role in the campaign proper.

Which raises the question of why Gillard does not try to cash in on Kevin Rudd’s popularity to enhance her own prospects of remaining in The Lodge.

Labor starts this marathon election campaign behind in the polls, facing the loss of formerly heartland seats in NSW, and with the Craig Thomson affair and a NSW corruption inquiry set to produce plenty of damaging headlines.

The dramatic arrest of Thomson on a string of fraud charges showed how naïve Gillard was in believing the election announcement would elevate policy debate above scandal and other distractions.

She needs all the help she can get. Including from the most popular Labor politician in the country.

Commercial television producers, dependent on ratings for their success, understand popularity, so it is significant that Rudd returned yesterday to the Seven Network’s Sunrise program.

He replaced Tony Burke, who has filled the weekly “Big Guns of Politics” breakfast TV slot opposite shadow Treasurer Joe Hockey for the last two years.

Seven dumped Burke because viewers don’t warm to him in the way they do to Rudd. Burke did not engage and interest them as Rudd does.

Despite occasional mutterings of discontent from some of his supporters, Rudd in public is saying all the right things - on Sunrise, for example, defending the PM over naming the election date eight months in advance and mounting a telling attack on Abbott’s pledge to abolish the ‘school kids’ bonus.

Instead of being afraid of Rudd’s popularity, Gillard and those around her should be looking for a way to make it an asset.

Perpetual paranoia about Rudd has Gillard looking insecure. Making use of him would be a demonstration of strength.

And strength, or toughness, more than anything else, is what she is trying to convey. 

Her dramatic election announcement was a case in point. So was her “captain’s pick” of Nova Peris to go into the senate as Labor’s first indigenous member of the federal Parliament.

Abbott has a different problem, of course. He wants to soften his image.

Proof of that - if proof was needed - was an email about the drafting of his National Press Club address last Thursday.

In the document, which found its way to a newspaper,the opposition leader told staff he wanted enough personal stories in the speech to have commentators saying: “Yes, he is a good bloke.

This clearly took precedence over enhancing the coalition’s policy credentials.

Abbott is trying to shake off the thuggish persona he has developed over the years and which is now seen as a liability.

Gillard, on the other hand, is not making much effort at all to conceal her inner thug. She is more inclined to shine a light on it.

There was no subtlety or sympathy when, to make way for Peris to be installed by Labor’s national executive as number 1 on the party’s Northern Territory senate ticket, Gillard unceremoniously sacked the incumbent Trish Crossin.

Crossin was summoned to The Lodge where the PM told her coldly that she was out. She could resign from the senate immediately, or stick around until the election, but her career was over.

Talking to friends later, Crossin described the PM’s manner as “Lathamesque” - an interesting comparison, given that Gillard was one of Mark Latham’s rusted-on backers.

Because Crossin is a Rudd supporter, doubt was cast over the prime minister’s motives in the elevation of Peris. The election announcement, too, was seen through the prism of the Gillard-Rudd rivalry, to the prime minister’s disadvantage.

With the campaign on, the government can no longer afford this kind of distraction. Rudd is not the threat to Gillard he once was. 

And Labor needs his popularity a lot more than Sunrise does.

Laurie Oakes is political editor for the Nine Network.

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    • Steve says:

      05:33am | 02/02/13

      Who cares Laurie?

      After losing two ministers overnight it really doesn’t matter. Labor’s front bench has spoken and the vote of no confidence in Gillard and Labors chances was loud and clear.

      Game over man, It’s game over.

      Losing one minister is careless. Losing two in a night is downright scary. She really did grab the initiative didn’t she.

      Gillards political ineptness on full display yet again. Just like McBain the glasses don’t stop the acid from eating her whole.

      The odds on her surviving must be tiny now. If you were a back bencher, hell a senior member, that wished to have a political career after the next election and your margin was less than 8% you know what you have to do.

      Bye bye Julia. One way or another.

    • Bill of Queensland says:

      07:42am | 02/02/13

      Rats scurrying to abandon a ship is the first sign of imminent sinking! The precipitate dismissal of Crossin tells voters that there is no assurance that the candidate they voted for will not be replaced at any time at the whim of the PM! Ad to that a catastrophic record of LABOR FAILURES such as Five Billion and still counting for failed border security policies! The BILLIONS more squandered on disasters like Building the Education Revolution, the Malaysian solution and Home Insulation are but trivial in comparison.  LABOR pays for WASTEFUL sociocultural engineering gimmicks by Cutting health, dental and pharmaceutical services to Australian battlers!

    • Joel says:

      07:43am | 02/02/13

      Hear hear.  Even Gillards number one cheer boy wont be able to muster up any masterful creative writing propaganda that will help his beloved ALP.  Sorry Laurie old boy its all over.  Do yourself and everyone else a favour and pack your little Labor pom poms away and start writing some objective, impartial pieces.

    • Mack says:

      07:47am | 02/02/13

      From The Australian -

      ‘Ms Gillard faces a crucial Parliamentary Labor Party meeting in Canberra on Sunday when she has to outline the political strategy to her colleagues for the election year after creating anger and confusion in Labor ranks over her early announcement of the election date.

      The shock resignation of Ms Roxon, a solid Gillard supporter, created a storm of commentary within ALP ranks late last night as the word spread she was stepping down and not expected to contest the next election.

      One senior Labor MP told The Weekend Australian late last night that “Rome is burning”.’

      I feel an early election coming on…..

    • JTZ says:

      09:11am | 02/02/13

      @acrotrel lets have a look at Labors policisies. Labor has annouced some big policies and stated that the funding for these policies will come from the mining tax. A tax that over the last two qtrs and from what I hear the third qtr will have a return of 0. If the third qtr is zero this will be truely a failure of the tax and Labor. The reason for this is the rise in iron ore prices and China increasing its purchases of iron ore. As stated by Wayne Swan who the reason for the mining tax not making any money over the last two qtrs was due to the low prices of iron and slow down in China.

      I am supprised at how you like to label the Liberals corrupt yet from the NSW we can see it was actually Labor who is corrupted to the core. The corruption case over the mining sales has shown how corrupt NSW Labor is.

    • Tomo says:

      09:31am | 02/02/13

      Come on Laurie, it’s over.

      Thomson arrested and charged, Slipper next and shhhh, do not mention Gillard’s AWU scandal.

      An allegation that Gillard created a false document was made against her in Oct 12 and is being investigated by Victorian police. It will not be a good look when our PM is questioned by police about it.

      Roxon is bailing out too, interestingly she handled AWU papers relating to the fraud, but of course has no memory of it.

      I am sure others will follow her, the more the merrier!

    • Bruce says:

      10:25am | 02/02/13

      Cash in on Rudd’s popularity ?? I thought the labor party clearly stated that Kevin was no good for the ALP, did not have the support of most ALP members, he could NOT be trusted, incompetent, and was extremely difficult to work with etc, etc . Albeit, some voters might like Kevin Rudd, the majority of the labor party cabinet made it very clear he was neither the right or a fit person to lead the ALP. Have I missed something ?

    • Rosie says:

      11:50am | 02/02/13

      Totally agree Steve - Who really cares but somehow Laurie chooses to go negative and try yet again to link his thoughts to the denting of Tony Abbott’s image!

      “The election campaign is still about these two men” Australian voters are not fools, Rudd will and always be around to haunt Gillard and her Labor Govt because of the way he was ousted. Also with Gillard’s leadership being on the nose there is still hope. When the Labor caucus go into panic mode will reach out for Rudd to save them as they desert the sinking ship. Turnbull is not stupid, he has seen the way in which Tony Abbott has lead from the front to get the Party into a winning position and for this LNP cabinet are all behind their leader.

      Sorry Laurie we will have to wait and see, after Abbott becomes PM whether his colleagues will be happy with his leadership to keep him as their leader. Otherwise they is a chance for not only Turnbull but other LNP ministers.

      At the moment he is doing exactly what is needed when the PM calls an Election, be it in 6 weeks or 8 months! Gillard now has to play catch up!

    • chungo mung says:

      12:47pm | 02/02/13

      Hilarious. The fevered elation of conservatives frothing at the mouth and making wild predictions like a four year old who is banking on Christmas coming early this year. Settle down kids, have you not noticed that both sides of politics are ridiculous, deceitful, false, self serving, narrow minded and ineffective?

      It was just as sickly to watch Labour people squeal like children at the end of Howard, now the other lot go exactly the same way. Neutrality is the only place one can find sanity and the willingness to listen to the best arguments rather than the most dramatic narrative.

    • Brad says:

      01:40pm | 02/02/13

      Laurie,

      Stop stirring the pot…

      There is no way in HELL that the Liberal voters would be happy to switch to Turnbull. He has not got the ticker. It very easy to ‘tweet’ and look cool from the sidelines but Turnbull has proven he’s not up to the ‘Leadership’.

    • Steve says:

      05:36am | 02/02/13

      So to recap –
      Gillard calls an election for September 14
      Day 1: Thompson is arrested (150 corruption charges).
      Day 2: McClelland will resign.
      Day 3: Evans and Roxon will resign.
      Day 4: ?

      Yah she rocks at this political stuff. This is so funny.

      H/T Catallaxy

    • Hank says:

      08:03am | 02/02/13

      No its not funny Steve because these idiots are running our country.  It would be funny if it was the committee at your local lawn bowls club.  This just shows there is no unity, direction or strong leadership within the ALP and the whole organisation needs to be torn down and rebuilt so we can have some viable options.  The factional infighting displays Gillards inability to unite the party and give them some strong policy that works without imploding on itself and leave some kind of legacy in the future they can be proud of.  Instead this will be the darkest chapter in Australian politics in the modern era for a long time to come and this will be undoubtably the worst Govt we have ever had the mistortune of having.  Good riddance ALP and for all our sakes I hope you rebuild and give me a reason to vote for you.

    • Christian Real says:

      08:26am | 02/02/13

      Steve
      Don’t laugh too soon,or count your chickens before they hatch because a lot can happen between now and the Election and who knows Abbott may even be replaced as Leader of the Opposition before then.
      So,it is not a big deal that these chose to resign because it is good to have a turnover of new blood and ideas .
      Otherwise you would end up with a political party like the Liberal/National party Opposition who has no ideas, no policies and no way forward except smear campains and mud slinging.

    • TimB says:

      09:33am | 02/02/13

      ‘So,it is not a big deal that these chose to resign because it is good to have a turnover of new blood and ideas .’

      AHAHAHAHAHAHA.

      I always enjoy Christian’s wacky spin on the ALP’s miserable failures.

      How one person can be so deluded yet still capable of living a relatively normal life is a question science has yet to answer.

      Tell me Christian, do you have a sneak peek for us of what your excuse will be when Abbott wipes the floor with Gillard in the election?

    • JTZ says:

      09:34am | 02/02/13

      @Christian real. So the fact that a senior Labor member has atttacked sections of the party doesnt show the desent of Labor.

      You should not be back slapping mattb and acrotrel till you know the result. I am willing to do a bet with you. $2,000.00 that TA will be the leader at the election.

    • Matt says:

      09:44am | 02/02/13

      Day 5: Profit?

    • Bolz says:

      09:45am | 02/02/13

      “Don’t laugh too soon,or count your chickens before they hatch because a lot can happen between now and the Election”

      Yeah, the current government could easily squeeze in another dozen or so debacles.

    • The Silver Fox McScrooge says:

      10:16am | 02/02/13

      @Hank, I see myself as a swinging voter but in truth I have voted Liberal more often than Labor through my life. I used to jump on the Libs bandwagon, along with everyone else, saying how great Australia was under Howard but have a look at Australia today -  highest relative costs for housing and utilities in history with no sign of an end. Tell me whose fault was this if not for the Liberal government under Howard? The boom in Australia through the first decade of the new millenia was poorly managed and we are all now seeing the consequences. All this focus on free trade is ridiculous. Australia needs some leaders who actually protect local industry, manufacturing and jobs; not a succession of goverments that kow tow to international interests. How that will happen I don’t know. Rudd tried it and look what happened to him. The country I knew 20 years ago is gone. It’s time to redress the balance and give the little man some respite. If that means regulation and protection so be it. Problem is, neither option is offering that.

    • Steve A says:

      10:19am | 02/02/13

      Very clear choice:
      Honesty v Labor Corruption and lies
      Surplus v Labor debt and poverty
      Work v Labor unemployment
      Efficiency v Daily Labor stuff ups.
      Openness v Labor coverups
      .... Next time someone promotes Labor or the unions, ask what grubby scheme they have going on or what dark messy secrets they are hiding.

    • Sergeant Schultz says:

      10:30am | 02/02/13

      Christian…and conversely their is every likelyhood that Rudd will replace Gilliar . At least you made me smile with your analysis of the Liberal party….especially in light of the fact that the description fitted the A.L.P. to a tee . Incidently Christian , mud campaigns and smear tactics are a Labor speciality . Remember the last Qld. state election. ?
      As for new Labor policies….can you name one this miserable excuse for a government has put forward. ?

    • Lenndawg says:

      10:49am | 02/02/13

      @ Christian Real: You sound like Anthony Mundine. Always someone elses fault and conspiracy theories to boot . But keep blowing the didgeridoo mate.

    • ZSRenn says:

      10:50am | 02/02/13

      @ Christian Real

      “no way forward except smear campains and mud slinging.”(sic)

      Christian, you crack me you old misogynist, you!

    • Zack says:

      11:12am | 02/02/13

      ‘no ideas, no policies and no way forward except smear campains and mud slinging.’

      CR has defined the Gillard ALP like no other. You and Seano must be friends from the same tree house.

    • Happymonkey says:

      11:16am | 02/02/13

      @Christian Real.

      “So,it is not a big deal that these chose to resign because it is good to have a turnover of new blood and ideas .”

      Wow. You really are rusted on, aren’t you, big fella?

    • ZSRenn says:

      11:24am | 02/02/13

      Why is that when someone says I am a Liberal supporter but…..or I am a swinging voter who votes Liberal but….. Even, I am a Labor voter but….. my first thought is, “sure you are?”

    • Davo says:

      12:22pm | 02/02/13

      @zsrenn   funny. you get a +1 this time. now get me a beer

    • Tomo says:

      12:54pm | 02/02/13

      @Christian Real.

      Police do not investigate smear campaigns, they investigate allegations of criminal activity.
      Let’s have a think, anyone spring to mind?
      Thomson, Slipper and the icing on the cake, GILLARD.

    • The SIlver Fox McScrooge says:

      02:07pm | 02/02/13

      Because it’s the truth ZSrenn you welded on muppet. I am a business man. It has normally made sense for me to vote for the coalition. You may notice that what I am proposing is not supported in any way by either of the main parties. Mine stuff, ship it offshore, manufacture stuff offshore, ship it back. Import food when we grow or can grow more than enough for ourselves because of a price point. All of this with dwindling oil reserves and a supposed focus on reducing emmisions to save the planet. It’s a crock of shit. The only shipping which should be occuring now is that which is necessary to supply countries that don’t have their own resources period. Does anyone who supports a carbon tax ever think about this stuff? Should we continue to burn up a resource at a rate forecast to deplete by the middle part of this century because of price points created by free trade? Vote for either of these parties and you are going to get the same thing.

    • Pete says:

      05:36am | 02/02/13

      Everyone talks about Abbott trying to soften his image at his national press club conference, which he no doubt was.
      But Gillard is in a constant state of image changes. Her “tough” image she has been trying to put out there is her latest in a long list of image changes along with the new glasses, the new make up, the new suit, the new hair colour this week.
      Maybe Gillard should just try and govern and stop thinking about herself and her image. All she seems interested in is being more popular than Abbott.
      It will take alot if she wants to shake the sneaky, tricky and decietful label she has given herself. Miss “tough” with glasses won’t cut it Julia.

    • ZSRenn says:

      09:04am | 02/02/13

      A point came to my mind when reading that part of the story

      “the opposition leader told staff he wanted enough personal stories in the speech to have commentators saying: “Yes, he is a good bloke.””

      This for mind is a reasonable request to his speech writers from an ex journo. He didn’t have to tell the writer what he wanted in and the conclusion there is that the writer had knowledge of these personal stories.

      You have to have good personal stories to tell which will make you look like a good bloke and perhaps the inclusion of these stories should have been more prevalent a lot earlier.

    • acotrel says:

      05:40am | 02/02/13

      Is Abbott still demurring on stating his policies.  The election is getting closer and his performance so far inspires no confidence that he will change from being negative to becoming innovative and constructive. It is becoming clearer by the day, that he has nothing to offer the Australian voting taxpayers except negativity, smear and totalitarian control..

    • Ben says:

      07:14am | 02/02/13

      >>It is becoming clearer by the day, that he has nothing to offer the Australian voting taxpayers except negativity, smear and totalitarian control..<<

      Acotrel has a point. Abbott did declare a gender war, and he and a few other male members would screech ‘misandry’ whenever Gillard got up to make a speech. There was also Abbott’s diatribe about misandry when Gillard looked at her watch while he was speaking. As for “totalitarian control”, who could forget Abbott’s attempts to introduce that so-called anti-discrimination legislation, which if passed, would criminalise free speech.

    • marley says:

      07:16am | 02/02/13

      @acotrel - “totalitarian control?”  It isn’t the Coalition that has been promoting internet censorship, the retention of records on individual internet usage, restrictions on free speech, and increased government control of the media.  Those are all ALP policies, and no matter how “rusted on” you are, you should be able to see that.  The ALP has some half decent policies, but if losing fundamental rights is the price we have to pay for returning them to government, then it’s a price too high.

    • Muphin says:

      07:27am | 02/02/13

      Good morning acotrel,
      If you had taken the time to listen to Abbot’s speech you would have heard him say that he will NOT be releasing his policies until Gillard has released hers and after the budget. 

      Since Gillard has NO policies to release Abbott can take his time and allow Gillard to stew in her own ferment.

    • Stephen T says:

      07:37am | 02/02/13

      @acotrel: I feel sorry for you acotrel this election is going to be painful for you, at least you can take consolation that there is the possibility that most of the bottom feeders in the Labor Caucus will be gone and the party can get back to rebuilding.

    • HT says:

      07:39am | 02/02/13

      Go away acotroll, really, really tired of your BS.

    • Chillin says:

      07:39am | 02/02/13

      One thing we can be sure Abbott will have…is a PARTY.  Labor, resigning by the day, not so much.  Last one out, switch off the light?

      How do you feel about the fact that the are all publicly resigning seven months out?  Not much ticker in the party.

      “The election is getting closer” - the spin never ends. Seven months is closer?  I guess we get closer every day.  The atmosphere is nerve wracking.  Oh wait I have a life, over to you acotrel.

    • Mack says:

      07:50am | 02/02/13

      acotrol, why don’t you just run a magnet over your pacemaker and give up, idiot.

    • Wayne says:

      08:01am | 02/02/13

      Yes, he has nothing to offer, unlike Gilllard whose many successes include ............... . Even rusted on’s such as you Acotrel, Reco, Mr Jordan et al must surely be starting to realize Labor is not fit to govern.

    • Rolls Canardly says:

      08:13am | 02/02/13

      I’m sure you can put your head a little deeper in the sand, acronob.
       
      A special quality of ignorance and denial that Gillard will need to cobble together to prevent annihilation in September.

    • Hi Ho says:

      08:13am | 02/02/13

      Alan, you are still missing the point, haven’t you read this morning’s papers yet?  Two more resignation’s from your girlfriend’s bunker. Cotterell, you ought to know better, two days and you still can’t get your mind off the boyfriend.

    • Stained says:

      08:19am | 02/02/13

      Totalitarian control??  FFS you have taken your eyes off the game dumb and dumber.  You check the bad ways of Gillard and then transfer these to Abbott to make yourself feel better.  Get yourself a can of WD40 and apply it liberally to the brain area champ.  How many more will resign from the Captain’s deck, ha ha ha ha

    • RJB says:

      09:21am | 02/02/13

      Poor old deluded Acotrel, one arm waving a sword around on the ground and and stating it’s only a flesh wound. Even you must soon acknowledge that the fat lady is singing.

    • JTZ says:

      09:36am | 02/02/13

      @acrotrel lets have a look at Labors policisies. Labor has annouced some big policies and stated that the funding for these policies will come from the mining tax. A tax that over the last two qtrs and from what I hear the third qtr will have a return of 0. If the third qtr is zero this will be truely a failure of the tax and Labor. The reason for this is the rise in iron ore prices and China increasing its purchases of iron ore. As stated by Wayne Swan who the reason for the mining tax not making any money over the last two qtrs was due to the low prices of iron and slow down in China.I am supprised at how you like to label the Liberals corrupt yet from the NSW we can see it was actually Labor who is corrupted to the core. The corruption case over the mining sales has shown how corrupt NSW Labor is.

    • Joan says:

      09:39am | 02/02/13

      acotrel : away in lalaa land - as are the Rudd/Turn-bull artists. We know why Gillard has called the election now - just so that she can sit it out doing nothing till September. - maybe that`s not such a bad thing - Gillard has botched up everything she has touched.- even Roxon has had enough   -  Abbott   top election performance at Press Club got her running scared and out of the game.

    • Greg in Chengdu says:

      01:09pm | 02/02/13

      Acotrel Abbott and the rest of Australia have had alot to be negative about. As for smear do you remember GillardsCampaign against Rudd? orthe one waged against the miners to get their miningtaxes through? Loyalty is one thing but still crying he praises of this government isnow just ludicrous. Its own MPs are leaving in disgust

    • Kipling says:

      01:16pm | 02/02/13

      Whilst acotrel abjectly fails to convince me that Labor is a votable option, his detractors absolutely convince me the other team are also not a votable option.

      Bottom line sadly, we either get a Labor or Liberal Government. We don’t get integrity with either team, we do not get policy we can rely on with either team and we most certainly do not get promises that can be trusted or honesty.

      Yep, it is gonna be another piss poor election outcome this year.

      We probably need more hung parliaments to make the bastards actually have to earn their keep, we won’t get many great outcomes, but at least these irresponsible, dishonest and disreputable bastards will have to earn what they get. Sadly, it seems the rusted ons are just as unhelpful and unreliable as those they would vote for.

    • Mouse says:

      02:34pm | 02/02/13

      “The election is getting closer…” Goodness acotrel, gillard has only just announced the date, September 14th, and it’s ages away! I reckon Abbott, along with everyone else, has heaps of time to show us what he has to offer.  He says his policies are ready now, maybe a good idea too, as gillard’s previous “gunna dos” haven’t exactly been reliable to date, have they?  :o)

    • Lafée says:

      05:54am | 02/02/13

      Abbott: from a rusted on LNP voter, please get rid of him.  Please.  He’s a freaking idiot.
      Turnbull: the only person I actually want to vote for.
      Hockey: Yeah, I’d vote for him too, he’s okay. 
      Rudd: still a likeable, even endearing bugger, in spite of his reputation.
      Gillard: sly, smarmy, deceitful, dishonourable, disreputable, disgusting: the worst public figure Australia has ever had.
      JMO

    • Peter says:

      08:26am | 02/02/13

      I agree with you, Lafee.  But it won’t happen, so don’t hold your breath.  That is the real danger for this country and why I’m afraid for what the next few years will bring.  Out of anger against Gillard, everyone will rush out and stick another equally idiotic politician in the Lodge.  We will swing like a pendulum to the other face of idiocy and where will we end up?  Who knows.  This guys Abbott is not the right man to lead this country.  Just as Gillard is obviously not the right woman.  We need both of them gone.

    • Matt says:

      09:49am | 02/02/13

      You would be voting for Turnbull though. Remember the mantra, you vote in a party, not a Prime Minister. Labor supporters (and Laurie - same thing though I guess) seem to have forgotten this point that they argued so loudly when Rudd was stabbed in the back by Gillard.

    • Emmie says:

      09:52am | 02/02/13

      Egocentric Turnbull is unelectable. He would stand a better chance if he shifted to the ALP - then the labor/green punters would vote for him. He almost destroyed the Liberal party - after he white-anted Nelson. Turnbull’s views are closely aligned with those of Kev/Gillard et al and his ambitions are solely directed to being PM, ‘whatever it takes’.

    • Gianna says:

      09:55am | 02/02/13

      The ALP propaganda directed at Tony Abbott has apparently worked to some degree.
      As others state, the demonisation is exactly what Labor has been aiming for, since “Game on”.
      A pity that people at all the factories and work places Abbott has visited aren’t available to ask them what they think of Abbott, having met him in person.

    • Mal says:

      09:59am | 02/02/13

      People seem to be too eager to listen to and taken in by the Labor propaganda machine. Gillard want people to think that Abbott is negative and obviously people are falling for it. Yes, Abbott would have to make cuts to get the budget back under control that won’t be popular, why?, because Julia and her cohorts have wasted so much money and we now have a substantial debt

    • Rose says:

      10:18am | 02/02/13

      Peter, you’re absolutely correct, we have a situation now where we are meant to pick from pretty much the worst both parties have ever had to offer.
      I’m thinking come Sunday’s meeting, the Labor Party need to put Gillard on notice, if not hold the coup immediately.

    • Christine says:

      11:11am | 02/02/13

      I disagree with your comment on Mr Abbott. I think he is a decent caring man who has a tough job to do as Leader of the Oppostion.  He has been cruelly maligned by labour supporters because he would not support Labour policies that were not in alignment with Coalition policies.  How weird that labour expected the opposition to support them with poor policy. Julia, Wayne and co acted as though they needed him to be a labour man and support them. When he didn’t , they unfairly maligned his character.

      He is very involved with community work in addition to his normal duties as Leader of the opposition.  He doesn’t just talk the talk, he gets in and physically helps whether it is with life saving, fire fighting, filling sand bags or raising money for charity.  He has a supportive family behind him.

      This election is not about Rudd or Turnbull, they are just labour journalist diversionary tactics.

    • Mack says:

      11:25am | 02/02/13

      @Lafee - yeah sure you’re a rusted on LNP voter….. More like a Labor Liar - it’s in their DNA. Just look at Julia…...bwhahaha!

    • Zack says:

      11:28am | 02/02/13

      If you Gillard/Abbott out as leader start calling or writing(emails) in to your local ALP/LNP politicians and let them know how you feel. Nothing wrong with politely letting them know how you wish to be represented.

    • Happymonkey says:

      11:31am | 02/02/13

      Why would the LNP change anything? Things are going swimmingly.

    • Rose says:

      01:06pm | 02/02/13

      Happymonkey, things are not going ‘swimmingly’ for anyone. For the most part the reaction to the election has been more of a “Don’t know what to do, I don’t want to vote for either of them” more than a “Yay, we get to vote for our preferred party”.

    • Kipling says:

      01:24pm | 02/02/13

      The distinct undertone from commentators coming from comments like “the ALP propaganda machine is working” etc highlights exactly why neither party is deserving of our trust, respect or devotion.

      Both parties propaganda machines are in overdrive pretty much all of the time, why, because neither has anything useful to put out there so they must rely on propaganda.

      It is a curiousity to me as well the number of times I have read comments pointing out that the Australian public are stupid because labor was voted in. Curiously enough, that same stupid public now stand on the brink of voting in the liberal party. Just as stupid I am thinking.

      Further, I think the whinging and hand wringing about Rudd being dumped came from both sides of the remarkably ill informed voting mob. Both teams are equally capable of doing exactly what happened to Rudd.

      Tony Abbott lead the liberal party to form government at the next election because labor will no doubt loose, but, I am not convinced that he is the bloke that can sustain effective government. I suspect there may well be a “replacement” leader come into play for the liberal party. If as election draws nearer and the party machine get an inkling that Mr Abbot may be a risk, then the knives will only come out sooner. These are the people you are voting for, have fun with that.

    • NSS says:

      04:18pm | 02/02/13

      Kipling, what’s the alternative? Vote for a fringe party without firm roots in economic or social realities, knowing that preferences will most likely determine the winner anyway? I agree, the choices are dismal. Appalling, even. If this is what we get for voting with out hip pocket nerve I hope we learn the lesson very smartly. However, in a representative democracy such as ours we must accept that many people have no political insight or principles. That’s what universal suffrage means, safe-guarded by our “compulsory” system, which gives advantage to no particular group.

    • labor is rotten to the core says:

      05:56am | 02/02/13

      Labor lovers in the press gallery just don’t get it. They want the election to be about “personality issues” whether the voters like Abbott, or do they like Turnbull’s cool demeanour on Q & A more etc…  Doesn’t he look great in his leather jacket on Q & A…etc- this is no longer important.


      Those in the press gallery don’t realise that voting will be on how sick to death people are of Labor’s in-built corruption. I was recently reading about someone who pre-dated Thomson and that was Labor politician Andrew Theophanous.

      He was convicted and sentenced to jail for fraud, but what gets me is that he still received his 9 plus years of tax payer funded govt superannuation payment. No Laurie, Labor is rotten to the core and must be eliminated no matter whether it is Abbott or Turnbull leading the Liberals.

    • Joe Blow says:

      09:56am | 02/02/13

      So Laurie tries to paint this as an article that says both sides are the same - and then goes on to say that they are almost polar opposites.  Fantastic.

      At least SOME of Labor’s own are starting to ‘get it’.  Here’s the view of the ALP National Vice President’:
      “Our crisis is more than just a crisis of trust brought on by the corrupt behaviour of property scammers and lobbyists.”
      “It’s a crisis of belief brought on by a lack of moral and political purpose.”

      Now if only the ‘rusted-ons’, and Labor’s media fans like Laurie and good ol’ Mal would catch on..

      We can only hope that members of the ALP’s media arm will follow Roxon’s and Evans’ lead.

    • Paul says:

      06:12am | 02/02/13

      No Laurie, it’s not.
      You would like it to be, but that doesn’t make it so…

    • ramases says:

      06:26am | 02/02/13

      As usual Laurie you have got it wrong.
        This election is about Gillard and her incompetent Government and nothing else, except of course those in her party who will take their money and run before the election, a trend that has already started.
        This election will be about the publics perception of our so called leader and her ability to lie to the people and her inability to bring forward policies that don’t fail miserably and cost billions on over runs.
        It will be about not being able to bring the budget into surplus, another lie that backfired on both Swann and Gillard.
        It will be on the publics perception of the rise in Union power which is seeing the demise of manufacturing in this country, the end of full time work and the rise of part time work in its stead because of continued wage demands for no extra productivity.
        It will be about handouts to Companies as bail outs that go straight into the pockets of the Union workers while we watch those same companies making plans to shut up shop and move overseas.
        It will be about the huge debt that this government has racked up in the short time it has almost been in power, a Debt that our children and maybe their children will be paying off if by some miracle this Government survived and the wasted money on Green Projects that have a snowballs chance in hell of ever coming to fruition.
        It will be about a Tax that was introduced, after being promised not to be, that was designed to protect the environment but by their own words wont do what it was designed to do but will instead raise costs across the board and increase the budget bottom line to be wasted on the above Green projects.
        It will be about the protection of certain people, not because they are presumed innocent but because they would have triggered a by election if thrown out of Parliament which would have meant a change in Government.
        It s about certain Independents who went against their own voters to back a Government who lied to them to gain their votes then reneged on those promises.
      It will be about this Governments inability to stop the boats and the millions of tax payers dollars that we are having to pay out to support these free loaders and queue jumpers because of this Government, money that could have employed more Nurses, Police or Ambulance drivers, allowed more beds in hospitals to open.
        That Laurie is what this election will be about.

    • Mater Hari says:

      07:53am | 02/02/13

      +++++1 Awesomely put!

    • jb says:

      07:55am | 02/02/13

      Hope you read Ramases post Laurie because this is the opinion piece you should have written, something with some truth to it.
      It has nothing to do with those 2 idiots, it’s just you dreaming or more to the point screaming that JG is an allright Gal. She’s not mate she’s a crook and those glasses make her look like Pinocchio…

    • OverIt says:

      08:03am | 02/02/13

      Ramases, you summed it up perfectly.

      My fear though, is the number of people whose posts I read who, for reasons beyond my comprehension, still insist JG and Labor are doing a good job.  I’m really not sure what would constitute a bad job in their eyes, but they each have a vote and will be using it to try to keep this mob in the Lodge.  Many don’t appear to be concerned about our level of debt with nothing or very little to show for it - I don’t know how much consideration has gone into how we’ll be paying it back, or how much better spent the money we currently pay on interest could have been.

      There is also no small number of people who say “I hate Julia but I won’t vote for Abbott”.  The fact that they can’t, unless they live in Warringah, seems to have escaped their notice or be irrelevant.

      It could be a lot closer than you would think possible.

    • Jay2 says:

      08:04am | 02/02/13

      Ramases- encore, encore!!

    • Babs of Sydney says:

      08:15am | 02/02/13

      Says it all really.  Great comment.

    • Gianna says:

      08:27am | 02/02/13

      Ramases
      Best comment I’ve seen in a long, long time.  Thankyou for laying it all out for those of us who can’t articulate as well.
      Laurie is entitled to his opinions as we all are….but now more than ever before, parts of the media seem to be totally disconnected from the ‘man in the street’.

    • Mik says:

      09:04am | 02/02/13

      Have been told with Medicare dental scheme now closed middlemen now contracted to find dental practices to prove services to refugees and asylum seekers, many of whom had been covered under the other scheme. Armed forces dental care also contracted out to middlemen (dental services have been cut in defence budget) when Veteran’s affairs have had a scheme going for more than 50 years that could have been adapted.
        The original scheme might have been a mess but people were getting treatment without the additional cost of a Middleman and If they had wanted to genuinely fix it they would have just changed to the Veteran’s Affairs model which works well for those blokes http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-05-07/am-dental-budget/3994672
      http://www.dva.gov.au/benefitsAndServices/health/Pages/dentists.aspx

    • eckland says:

      09:06am | 02/02/13

      Ramases.
      You nailed it in one.
      Thank you

    • The Machiavellian says:

      09:23am | 02/02/13

      .....and Ramases - Modern families - there’s the appeal. That’s a lesbian couple in inner city Melbourne with a $45,000 IVF baby funded by you and me who want to sue the sperm donor for maintenance. Founders of the Labor Party? Not.
      If you are a gay male couple on mainland Australia you are still misogynists - apparently!.

    • Apathy Rules says:

      09:48am | 02/02/13

      Sorry to burst your bubble ramases but this election is going to boil down to who the voters least hate…Gillard or Abbott, and at the minute it’s not a good look for Mr Abbott.

      The majority of voters are too apathetic to give a damn about anything you’ve listed, this election will be based purely on personalities and sadly Mr Abbott’s personality is totally lacking, simply put…Mr Abbott is unelectable and he’s the greatest asset the ALP have.

    • -28 says:

      09:57am | 02/02/13

      Let’s not forget the international embarrassment over cattle exports, announcements of apparent asylum agreements prior to any discussion, the lecturing to European leaders, the panty splooshing over Obama, her round heeledness and falling over left right and centre etc

      Then there is the Peris stupidity,Thommo, AWU, Australia Day incident….The list just goes on and on and on

    • David says:

      10:25am | 02/02/13

      As usual ramarses you have got it wrong. It will be about the fact that the LNP have no ideas or policies and that Tony Abbott is unelectable.

    • ramases says:

      10:47am | 02/02/13

      Over it, I amazes me that they know which is the “real” Julia as she has had more makeovers than most people have had hot dinners. Are they going to vote for the real Julia, the real real Julia or the new Julia that has adopted the persona of a matronly school marm.
      I for one don’t even know who is leading this country as every time we have a small crisis the supposed leader emerges as someone else entirely but soon slips back into the Julia we all know and mistrust. The only one constant is the fact that she is a known liar and will do and say anything to keep office no matter what harm she does to the country.

    • Zack says:

      11:17am | 02/02/13

      Well said ramses! Hope CR and Seano are taking notes smile

      Laurie you did try to write something which is somewhat ok I guess but ramses hit the nail right on the head.

    • Seano says:

      04:10pm | 02/02/13

      @Zack

      The day I take notes from morons, loons, trolls or lowlifes is the day that Tony Abbott becomes a decent bloke, with sensible costed policies aimed at governing for all Australians and we both know that’s never going to happen.

    • Charles says:

      06:30am | 02/02/13

      Good to see Laurie still has a soft spot for Kevin Rudd.  It won’t help though he really is just as incompetent as Gillard.  The only reason he is popular is because voters wanted to deliver the coup de grace themselves and not let Julia do it.

    • dweezy 2176 says:

      06:35am | 02/02/13

      Why, oh, why Laurie do you persist in preaching to the rusted-on? You know Acotrel & Christian Real are won over and hang on your every word yet you keep on with your left wing waffling as if it is all that matters!
      Your obituary of the rats, Roxon and Evans, deserting the sinking ship should be a classic, 
      Rome burns and Laurie watches Gone With The Wind, “I’ll think about it tomorrow”.

    • JTZ says:

      09:20am | 02/02/13

      I do believe acotrel, christian real, mattb are the same person or are part of thr Labor party support team. I know acrotrel has been outed on the punch as been a supporter of Labor with his continued post on the Labor site been revealex by another puncher. I also would like to point out acrotrel has decieded to drop the act of asking ppl to support independents but only those who put Labor as number two on the ballot.

      The fact that Julia Gillard in her early days as PM attacked the fact that a member had grown a beard rather answer a questions shows how nasty she is.

    • NESLIHAN KUROSAWA says:

      06:50am | 02/02/13

      Hi Laurie,

      Is this just like the good old days of the Australian Federal Politics? Why don’t we face the plain old truth that Ms Julia Gillard still needs to have some kind of support from the male/female politicians within the ALP.  It is just like everything else in life, instead of making enemies they should work on having more allies by their side in the political arena!  Finding faults with the opposition and negative smear campaigns can only buy more time but in the long term “it is every man or woman for themselves”.

      It is so much like life itself and I personally feel that there has been so far too much time being spent on personal attacks just to divert attention from real and more serious issues.  It hasn’t helped one bit to the current situation, so in the next nine months can we all look forward to some kind of intelligent, productive and meaningful conversations at the Parliament House?  And actions speak louder than words kind of strategies? After all we all look up to our leaders for all the answers and so much more.

      Elections may be about being popular or unpopular among the Australian voters, in general.  However it is never a popularity contests at all and all candidates should be judged on their overall performance on keeping and delivering promises on time, being totally honest about their plans about Australia’s future and most importantly try to be a leader with “what you see is what you get kind of attitude”.  Public speaking skills are essential but what gets to me more than anything happens to be all that talking about the same old agendas which don’t mean much to the voters of Australia. 

      Both political parties and candidates should be very careful not to repeat the mistakes of the past by being too self absorbed and obsessed with their own self image that they might forget to deal with all the burning questions and hot issues on our minds.  By also letting all the voters know how they plan to bring about all the positive changes to our world, in the best possible way.  Kind regards.

    • Happymonkey says:

      11:55am | 02/02/13

      How do you always manage to write so much without saying anything?

    • Ben says:

      06:58am | 02/02/13

      The rout is starting already; the Australian reports this morning that Chris Evans is quitting and that the most incompetent Attorney-General in history will not be contesting the next election (no ticker, Nicola?).  A counter coup by Rudd is not out of the question but he should steel himself for the Tarago strategy. At least his most unruly children (Swan et al) will no longer be on the back seats, let alone the shadow ministry.

    • Jay2 says:

      07:43am | 02/02/13

      @Ben Yes, Nicola Roxon and Chris Evans are reported to have resigned and so it begins…

      For me, this election is about Gillard (Thomson; Slipper;Crossin for starters) and all the deals done to stay in power for her own self serving interests and the consistent failure of policies being implemented.

      The replacement of Crossin with Nova just highlights how out of touch and disconnected Julia Gillard is with the average Australian. I can well imagine if an aboriginal person was booted out in a predominately white electorate to make way for a white candidate how well that would be received.  It should be about what candidate, regardless of race or gender, can do the best possible job of representating his/her electorate. What Julia did was a slap in the face for that electorate and the whole process.
      The irony of it all, Labor power brokers replacing Kevin Rudd because of his alleged meglomaniac behaviour with Gillard! Hilarious!!

    • GROBP says:

      08:29am | 02/02/13

      I haven’t seen it mentioned anywhere that Gillard called the election early in a valiant attempt to save herself. There is nothing this woman will not do for power. It’s never been about us or Australia for many decades now and our collective stupidity will bring Australia down.

      We’ve sold way too many assets, borrowed way too much both personally and nationally, our housing is about 60% overvalued (far more when our declining wages are considered) populated too much.

      Australia will be broke just like Greece no matter which horrendous party wins. This country is broken, most people just can’t see it yet. From a filthy rich fat bastard, I’ tell anyone that will listen, do not invest in anything in this country.

    • Ladyjane says:

      09:01am | 02/02/13

      I guess it looks better on your resume if you can put down that you quit instead of that the Australian public sacked you.

    • ZSRenn says:

      10:32am | 02/02/13

      Rudd would be smarter to let Gillard take the fall in September. To play the team player with a smirk as he does.  After the routing which Labor will surely receive, when I think it is clear Rudd and a hand full will be left standing, he can then go on with a clean slate and rebuild Labor as he sees fit without the loss of an election hovering over his head.

      For Labor to switch captains now will not win them the election as the mistrust the Australian people have for them runs too deep. He would need to repeal the Carbon Tax to have any shot at the title and that would force the Greens hand and bring forward the election. 

      As for the Turnbull supporters or should I say those from the Labor party pretending to be Turnbull supporters. That is never going to happen and the constant smear campaign against Abbott no longer holds the sway it did in 2010.

      The Australian voter can see it for what it is. Desperate actions by a desperate Labor party to retain office.

    • Kippo says:

      07:14am | 02/02/13

      Looks like even Gillards Labor Ministers are deserting her. I wonder what they know about Gillard.

    • Seano says:

      07:16am | 02/02/13

      “In the document, which found its way to a newspaper,the opposition leader told staff he wanted enough personal stories in the speech to have commentators saying: “Yes, he is a good bloke.

      This clearly took precedence over enhancing the coalition’s policy credentials.”

      No real interest in good government only his burning desire to be PM. With his mindless need to be PM, policies that don’t add up, make sense and have been framed largely by populism Abbott presents the worst possible candidate to run the country.

      The good news is that if he does win it will only be by a small margin because pretend to be a good bloke or not Abbott’s not liked now and it’s not going to change. Small L liberal voters must be looking at the stupidity of Abbott’s policies such as slugging business to fund middle class welfare/vote buying and then looking at Turnbull and thinking WTF went wrong.

    • Ben says:

      09:09am | 02/02/13

      >>The good news is that if he does win it will only be by a small margin because pretend to be a good bloke or not Abbott’s not liked now and it’s not going to change<<

      I do seem to recall people saying the same thing about Howard in 1996.

      The good news is, Seano, that if history repeats, Abbott will only be PM until 2025. Now go and clean up those cornflakes.

    • Mack says:

      09:21am | 02/02/13

      Gillard’s government imploding and you reckon Tony Abbott is in trouble. You’re more delusional than Gillard. Abbott is going to win in a landslide and that landslide victory is getting bigger everyday.

      PS Seano, you’re as big an idiot as acotrol.

    • Muphin says:

      09:43am | 02/02/13

      Seano,
      Another rant from another sore loser. Don’t you get it, this election is NOT about the personalities of Rudd, Turnbull, Abbott or Gillard. It’s about getting a rotten to the core union OWNED Government.

      @ ramases. Agree with you 100%

    • smart doc says:

      09:53am | 02/02/13

      Seano sad to see you give such a pathetic reply which smacks of desperation of a rusted on ALP supporter. Study hard get a good job look after your family, leave politics to the smart people.

    • Seano says:

      09:55am | 02/02/13

      “I do seem to recall people saying the same thing about Howard in 1996.”

      Relevance? None. A completely different situation, even conservatives don’t like Abbott.

      “The good news is, Seano, that if history repeats, Abbott will only be PM until 2025.”

      Abbott is a divisive, economically illiterate, populist and yet vastly, deservedly, personally unpopular if you honestly think that a decade of Abbott as PM is a serious possibility then you should turn your PC off and go outside to play.

    • Zack says:

      10:51am | 02/02/13

      Seano what a childish comment from a sore loser. Gillard is the current PM and the person actually in a position to do the job and she is failing like no other. When Abbott is PM and he fails then and only then can we judge him. Going by your hypothetical standards, Craig Thompson should go away to gaol without a trial. You shouid be ashamed of your comment.

    • GROBP says:

      11:29am | 02/02/13

      Seano

      Manufacturing’s dead, youth unemployment’s 20%, housing’s 60% over priced, population increased by 360 000 last year, we’ve sold 85% of mining and most of other industry, farms are gone and you’re worried about who’s a good bloke? Priorities Seano.

      Having said that. Do not let Abbott in the lodge without a commitment not to touch super this term.

    • Seano says:

      11:29am | 02/02/13

      And out in force come the conservative loons with their nonsensical rants, personal attacks, attacking arguments I haven’t made and ignoring arguments I have.

      Assuming Abbott has already won with no policy detail or costings in place none of them are interested in democracy or good government only in barracking their team no matter how moronically.

      Little wonder Abbott is so deservedly unpopular if these are a typical example of his supporters.

    • biggie says:

      11:35am | 02/02/13

      zack
      sore loser ????

      Last time I looked the conservatives were in opposition.
      This conservative mob is the very definition of sore losers.

      ps The only time Abbott will be pm is in your dreams.

    • Ben says:

      12:18pm | 02/02/13

      @Seano

      >>Abbott is a divisive, economically illiterate, populist and yet vastly, deservedly, personally unpopular if you honestly think that a decade of Abbott as PM is a serious possibility then you should turn your PC off and go outside to play.<<

      I seem to recall many people saying that Abbott could never become Opposition Leader for the same reasons. And here we are three years later, with Abbott on the verge of becoming PM. How does it feel, Seano?

    • TimB says:

      01:29pm | 02/02/13

      @ Ben, I just remember Seano squawking continuously that Abbott was unelectable. Which makes the increasingly ridiculous dribble posted by him and his fellow Labor stooges (Chrisitan Real, Acotrel, and everyones favourite sockpuppet king Badger/Biggie) all the more hysterical, the closer we get to the election.

      Thomson arrested, Roxon quitting, Julia floundering from one disaster to the next. It’s great fun.

    • jtz says:

      01:45pm | 02/02/13

      @seano let me point something out to you. All the policy reforms Labor is aiming implement are based on the mining tax revenue. At the moment as it stands we have had two quarters of zero return. Word is that there will be no return for the third quarter even though iron ore prices have increased and China has seen a growth increase. So how will Labor afford all these. They have already stripped defence bare to the point defence members are buying their own pens and tissue boxes.

      Labor has implemented more red tape which is costing business’s millions. Where is Labor’s funding for their maternity leave coming from? Labor has allot of policies but no funding for them.

    • Stephen T says:

      01:46pm | 02/02/13

      @Seano: “Abbott is a divisive, economically illiterate, populist and yet vastly, deservedly, personally unpopular if you honestly think that a decade of Abbott as PM is a serious possibility then you should turn your PC off and go outside to play.”

      What a load of crock Seano you say he is ‘divisive’ yet he has held the Liberal Party together in Opposition and kept it focused on returning to Government, as far as I can see he is consistent in his approach. He is also outside of Parliment involved with several activities that require teamwork and mutual support, he could not function in these environments if he was ‘divisive’.

      Contrast him to Julia Gillard who has trouble holding her government together let alone contributing anything to the community outside of Parliament.

      You say that he is “economically illiterate”, his qualifications include a BEc, LLB (Syd), MA (Oxon).

      When we compare his credentials to Labor we find that he has better economic credentials than the current Treasurer, and many other Labor politicians:

      Wayne Swann: BA
      Kevin Rudd BA
      Julia Gillard BA, LLB (Melb)
      Nicola Roxon: BA, LLB (Hons) (Melb).

      You say that he is “populist and yet vastly, deservedly, personally unpopular”, this is your opinion and I think you need to either get a grip on yourself or stop playing with yourself.

      I think you need to go and have a chat with the New South Wales Rural Fire Service, they may have more than a few words to say to you regarding his popularity.

      Even though for the most part I find your comments churlish and stupid, you are entitled to your opinion.  But you do become offensive with your continued regurgitation without any form of cooberaration other than you opinion, to be frank based on your contributions you display more of the characteristics you accuse Tony Abbott of habouring.

    • Seano says:

      02:13pm | 02/02/13

      @GROBP - Besides the fact that you’re making it all up you’re really saying to the millions of Australian’s who their entire nest eggs tied up in their homes that “housing’s 60% over priced”.

      Sorry I’m not interested in wasting my time with loonies or trolls, life is too short. Ignored.

      @Ben - Yet again you fail to come up with anything like a grown up argument. See above.

    • laura from Brisbane says:

      03:47pm | 02/02/13

      Seano you are not very bright and act like a whinging little child which is why you come across as a funny troll needing pity

    • Seano says:

      04:05pm | 02/02/13

      @trollb - I’m not interested in your sad little rants on any topic boy.

      @jtz - That’s not factually correct for a start. 2nd Labor cannot possibly be any worse than the LNP with Abbott’s gold plated parental leave tax on business. Not to mention Abbott is planning to scrap the instant asset tax write-off which saves business red tape and frees up cash flow.

      The bloke is supposed to be a conservative politician but he’s slamming business to fund vote buying. Bring in Turnbull and some common sense, Abbott is a disaster waiting to happen.

    • GROBP says:

      04:22pm | 02/02/13

      @Seano

      It’s probably more than 60% over priced. With downward pressure on wages (we do earn ten times our competitors and there’s no advantage left in this country) housing is one massive distribution of the nations wealth to the government sanctioned and protected banks. I’m no trol, I’m also certainly not loyal to any of the disastrous parties. I’m just a guy trying to save my fellow Australians from catastrophe. Ignore at your peril. How many it’s going to hurt is completely irrelevant, it doesn’t change the absolute fact housing is massively over priced.

    • Zack says:

      07:21am | 02/02/13

      ‘Gillard, on the other hand, is not making much effort at all to conceal her inner thug. ‘

      Amazing Laurie that you were allowed to say this. I thought by Anthony’s standard this would be defamation. Clearly this term is variable, to people without law degrees.

      Rudd has something up his sleeve. Look forward to it soon.

    • gary says:

      11:37am | 02/02/13

      Benson, is that you?
      still trying to get up a Rudd challenge I see.

    • Zack says:

      12:41pm | 02/02/13

      I really think Rudd is waiting to throw massive fuel on the fire. Even if it isn’t a challenge it must be a bombshell or something. Rudd isn’t one to let things go. Gillard made a VERY powerful enemy.

    • The Machiavellian says:

      07:23am | 02/02/13

      “And the pressure on Abbott immediately increased because he knows that the election is seen as his to lose.”

      Except that this is another Gillard own goal. The Country has a deliverance date.

      Now Tony Sheldon has summed up where she has taken the party - with great eloquence.

    • Luke says:

      07:32am | 02/02/13

      Malcolm Turnbull said himself on Q&A that he will be in the Coalitons front bench if they vote for Abbott, but Rudd won;t be in Labors.

    • Muphin says:

      07:43am | 02/02/13

      Laurie,
      This is a union OWNED government.  The unions are corrupt and therefore so is this government. Rotten to the CORE.

    • Gerard says:

      09:20am | 02/02/13

      Could you please explain then why the manufacturing union spent thousands, if not millions of dollars of members’ money on promoting a carbon tax which will send Australian manufacturing jobs overseas? Seems to me that the Labor Party owns and controls the unions, not the other way around.

    • Bob says:

      11:45am | 02/02/13

      It was that or have the liberals in, who are fairly anti union. The greens were wrongly seen as the lesser of two evils.

    • fedup labourvoter says:

      07:45am | 02/02/13

      But does rudd need Juliar?  I don’t think so.  This article must have been written before evans and roxon announced that they are jumping ship. Gillard needs any support within the party that she can now get. but why has roxon jumped? Did she have a pang of conscience over pushing gillards agenda over freedom of speech? I dont think roxon can cope anymore with gillards dictatorship. How many others are now thinking like that Laurie? With Thomson charged, Slipper likely to resign to keep his pension, possibly more news on gillards AWU scam.  Watch democracy die in Australia, unless gillard gets dumped.

    • Gerard says:

      09:27am | 02/02/13

      “Did she have a pang of conscience over pushing gillards agenda over freedom of speech?”

      If Roxon had a conscience she wouldn’t have touched that bill with a ten foot pole.

    • Mack says:

      11:36am | 02/02/13

      The AWU scandal is catching up with them. Roxon resigned so that she will not have to answer questions about her role in the saga. She is safe from scrutiny on the backbench. But the clock is ticking for Julia. They have now seen that the Victorian police mean business…..
      Could be a very interesting few days.

    • Old Fogey says:

      07:46am | 02/02/13

      I’m thinking Abbott could be on a winner here.  It’s something that I have longed for for years; A party promoting its front bench team and stepping away from the presidential style elections that the media has been forcing on us.  I don’t care who scores as preferred Prime Minister; it’s irrelevant.  The important thing is preferred government team.  Look what happens when Prime Ministers ignore their cabinet colleagues and charge in and make ill-thought decisions.

    • Shane From Melbourne says:

      07:56am | 02/02/13

      ALP wins the next election, it will be more handouts to the middle class and lower class families.
      Coalition wins the next election, it will be more handouts to the middle class and upper class families.
      Either way the handout junkies will be fed

    • Gerard says:

      09:36am | 02/02/13

      Of course the Australian public could just consign both major parties to history and vote for someone who actually cares about the country, but this approach doesn’t appear to be all that popular.

    • hicks says:

      09:58am | 02/02/13

      Shane u r a broken record. If u had balls u would piss off to Guyana instead of whinging the same thing every time. Don’t like the politics - leave

    • Ian1 says:

      08:09am | 02/02/13

      We no more know the date of the General Election than we know the colour of a politician’s underpants!  Gillard ‘announced’ September 14, but the G-G hasn’t set a date.  Gillard ‘announced’ lots of things which never came to pass, and has told previous lies and deceptions to the media who still report her words as true in part.  But a by-election can be postponed if the General Election date is known…  well, I tell you this, if JG asks QB to dissolve Parliament and set a date then one exists!  If she says, “In the future I will ask the GG to,” then no date for it yet exists!

      The by-election is likely coming so that this farcical federal floundering can finE^.  Unless Australia deserves to see even more stains of the ALP.

    • Bruce Mullinger says:

      08:09am | 02/02/13

      A very impressive deputy PM has become a very unimpressive PM, and possible replacement Kevin Rudd may be our most costly politician ever - we simply can’t afford him.
              If Opposition leader Tony Abbotts’ greatest sin is to have punched a wall at age 19 then he is almost a saint, but saint he ain’t, for at the behest of John Howard he crucified Pauline Hanson who was guilty only of patriotism and poor delivery. His heir apparent Malcolm Turnbull, sneers at plebeian populism and the last thing this country needs is more intellectual narcissism and investment banker mentality.
              If these are the best of perhaps our worst ever parliament then we are up crap creek in a pea-souper without a torch or a paddle.

    • GROBP says:

      08:13am | 02/02/13

      Two socialist clowns that will bring the whole country to its’ knees.

    • Seano says:

      09:59am | 02/02/13

      You mean Abbott taxing business to hand cash to the middle class as welfare?

    • GROBP says:

      11:23am | 02/02/13

      ..........“You mean Abbott taxing business to hand cash to the middle class as welfare?”...........

      I mean every politician that’s not screaming to the Australian voters we are going broke. We will be like Greece if we don’t stop selling Australian assets, stop populating and start producing. EVERY single one of them. Not just Abbott, Gillard, Rudd and Turnbull.

      We are living on tomorrows money. On the futures of our kids. We’ve spent most of what was built over ten generations in the last two and will now start going backwards exponentially. It will surprise most but it’s simple logic. All these clowns talking about our economy moving in to servicing and education are delusional and I’d bet everything I have they have a vested interest.

    • JTZ says:

      02:01pm | 02/02/13

      @Seano I wish you ALP supporters will make up your minds. Either the maternity leave Abbott is promoting through the business tax is either middle class welfare or welfare for the rich. Which is it?

    • Seano says:

      02:15pm | 02/02/13

      “We will be like Greece if we don’t stop selling Australian assets, stop populating and start producing. “

      To make that link shows that you obviously you neither understand the current position Australia is in nor how Greece got into the position it did. Life is too short for loons like you champ, rant at someone else.

    • Zack says:

      03:39pm | 02/02/13

      Seano calling people loons and huffing and puffing like a 2year old is no way to win a debate. You lack insight and that is why you are the way you are. Grow up and get help because you clearly need it.

    • Rolls Canardly says:

      08:19am | 02/02/13

      Dulcie Bookworm (Julia’s latest image makeover) is the epitome of modern Labor.
       
      Short-sighted, self-serving, delusional, shallow, incompetent, and utterly incapable of comprehending the problem of their own making…
       
      September can’t come soon enough.

    • TimB says:

      08:19am | 02/02/13

      Hmmm..

      “Perpetual paranoia about Rudd has Gillard looking insecure. Making use of him would be a demonstration of strength.

      And strength, or toughness, more than anything else, is what she is trying to convey. 

      Her dramatic election announcement was a case in point. So was her “captain’s pick” of Nova Peris to go into the senate as Labor’s first indigenous member of the federal Parliament. “

      Here’s the thing Laurie. The Nova Peris thing backfired spectacularly. The early election announcement has lurched from one disaster to the next.

      If Gillard takes your suggestion and enlists Rudd’s help, given Gillard’s luck and judgement, odds are it will be just as much a roaring success as her first two gambits.

      Knives at 5 paces please raspberry

    • Joe Blow says:

      10:05am | 02/02/13

      The Nova Peris recruitment was a stroke of brilliance by the PM,  I mean we’ve never had a female Aboriginal Attorney General, have we!?  Peris is as well-quallified for that role as any other in Parliament.

      Here’s to the next Captain’s pick!

    • AdamC says:

      11:14am | 02/02/13

      It is weird. It seems clear to me that the major constituency for Rudd redux is the media, and the constituency for Turnbull II is the Labor Party.

      Tony Abbott seems to realise this. Abbott giving Turnbull a chance to swan around, press the flesh and act important benefits both the Coalition and Turnbull himself. Julia, by contrast, seems to be inordinately afraid of Rudd’s rempant ego and his, seemingly limited, internal support.

    • Joe Blow says:

      10:11am | 02/02/13

      Are you really suggesting that our laws apply to ex-Union leaders and ALP MPs.  Next you’ll be suggesting that it’s illegal for a lwayer to fraudulently set up a sham fund to help her boyfriend ....

    • SASMITH says:

      08:41am | 02/02/13

      A drovers dog could lead the liberal party to victory, the way the country is.

    • Rob says:

      10:28am | 02/02/13

      But Tony Abbott can’t. The country is just fine, by the way.

    • SASMITH says:

      01:23pm | 02/02/13

      Rob

      I defer to Mr Oakes expert opinion which suggests that two “drover dogs” (Malcolm & Kevin) could lead a party to victory.
      Perhaps they can form a party with disgruntled Lib’s & Lab’s but I’m sure their ego’s will get in the way.

    • Mack says:

      01:30pm | 02/02/13

      Rob, is it dark and smelly where you are? (Head up own arse)

    • Jacko says:

      09:03am | 02/02/13

      Just waiting for Gillard to say her Ministers are leaving because of “family” reasons.
      We will no doubt get a little family story told here.

    • pa_kelvin says:

      01:07pm | 02/02/13

      Ben…. She will have a nice Tax Payer income to do it with…

    • Tell It Like It Is says:

      02:13pm | 02/02/13

      Exactly @ Jacko. In fact, I expect that at ‘any minute’ Ms Gillard will need to spend more time with her family!

    • Bemused and Confused says:

      09:21am | 02/02/13

      I see the moderator is running interference again…
      If you could possibly manage a skerrick of consistency in your publication practices you might earn a little respect.

    • JTZ says:

      09:26am | 02/02/13

      Shame. Labors has truly hit a low. So its not party politics for Gillard to visit Bundaberg but it is for Tony Abbott it is. Shame to the Australian media reporters for this, shame.

    • True Blue Ozzie says:

      09:27am | 02/02/13

      A picture showing the best possible leaders for Australia! I’d have either anyday as aposed to Gillard & Abbott! These two are the winning cards for there parties, but there been disgarded, while there leaders and parties slug it out in a mud pool of dead fish!

    • Hi Ho , says:

      09:33am | 02/02/13

      Alan Cotterell (?) Sep-14 will see you a broken hearted little old bitter man.

    • Zack says:

      12:16pm | 02/02/13

      I feel so sorry for the guy.

    • expat says:

      09:58am | 02/02/13

      I’m surprised that an independent party with a bit of funding has not made a serious push, the current environment is just asking for a realistic third player to come and ruffle some feathers.

      The Greens managed to score excessive power last election with absolutely crazy ideas, a realistic, financially backed party should have a good chance at making a serious play for power.

    • pa_kelvin says:

      04:19pm | 02/02/13

      expat
      The problem is Australia doe’s not have a viable 3rd Political party as an alternative Government.
      Some would say the Greens are an alternative, but they will probably go the way of the Dinosaurs next election [along with 3or 4 independents], and in my view are a spent force in Australian Politics.
      For a viable 3rd political party to have any chance at all it should be existing now, with a Leader, policies and Candidates in 70-80% of seats… This is not the case, and as such we are stuck with the current crop of clowns we refer to as Parliament.
      I have previously posted that independents should not be able to do deals [new hospitals new bit of highway for their electorates] to prop up a hung Parliament, but that we should go back to the polls to get a definitive outcome..
      I guess we will just have to wait until later this year to see how things pan out

    • Robert S McCormick says:

      10:08am | 02/02/13

      Laurie, as Julia Gillard’s #1 Cheerleader amongst journalists maybe you could give her a message?
      This Election is Not all about Julia Gillard. It is Not all about what she wants for herself. It has nothing to do with her desire to be the First Female ELECTED Prime Minister. It has nothing to do with seemingly satisfying her obsessions with having the 1st Female Australian PM, the 1st Female ALP Aboriginal in the Senate. Being 1st in anything, as she has so clearly demonstrated, does Not mean we get the Very Best. Julia has only to look in a mirror to see Failure.
      Doubtless, now that one of her staunchest allies, Nicola Roxon, has decided to quit politics ( ‘family issues’??, should she have thought of that when she had her 1st child & quit then??) does that mean that Julia will once again exercise what she calls “captain’s choice” & decide that she is going to appoint Australia’s 1st Federal, naturally female, MP form another ethnic minority?
      If she even thinks of interfering in the ALP’s long-held Democratic Principle of Branch Members being able to select their own candidate, as she did in the Northern Territory (the voters there, including the ALP ones, will be very slow to do as she says) then she will be judged to have demonstrated, yet again, her trademark “Appalling lack of judgement”.
      So far 3 of the crew have jumped ship if the momentum keeps up she will be forced to appoint Kevin Rudd as Deputy Prime Minister!!
      That’s karma for you!!!

    • pa_kelvin says:

      10:10am | 02/02/13

      How many Saturdays till election time????
      What are you going to write about the first Saturday after the election Laurie??

    • Tropical says:

      01:34pm | 02/02/13

      Laurie will be writing a very short essay on the non achievements of the Rudd/Gillard disaster.
      But it will be a hoot watching him on Ch 9 as the realisation that he has failed miserably in getting the worst PM/government re-elected.

    • Nev says:

      10:22am | 02/02/13

      I wouldn’t be surprised to see a leadership spill, next week and a visit to the polling booth mid to late March.

    • Mata Hari says:

      11:34am | 02/02/13

      I’ve seen it mentioned on a couple of other blog sites that the company that supplies the polling booths have been asked to get ready to supply them for an election in March. You could be right…..

    • pa_kelvin says:

      03:10pm | 02/02/13

      Mata Hari…. Nah, they’ve been in stock for the past two years…

    • Enough says:

      10:31am | 02/02/13

      Just face it Laurie, this has been the worst government led by the worst Prime Minister in our history and kevin and his government come second.
      Australai cannot afford any more of this lot and their green/ independant hangers on.
      The simple answer is for an overwhelming vote for the Liberal/National Party..

    • Loxy says:

      10:32am | 02/02/13

      I don’t think the ‘image’ of either Julia or Abbott can be changed this late in the game, both are immensley disliked by the public and that’s the way it’s going to stay right up until the election. Using Rudd would backfire in my opinion given their animosity is well known and any attempt to appear chummy and good team mates will look fake and dishonest. Kinda as fake and dishonest as Abbott running around trying to tell everyone what a good bloke he is.

      The quality of politicians at state and federal level has been on a rapid decline for over a decade now, culminating with the depressing decision between the two most unlikeable characters we have ever had at the federal election later this year.

      I still marvel at how anyone in this day and age can so staunchly support any party when they are all so equally pathetic. To me there is no other option but to be a swinging voter and simply choose the one you dislike the least at each election.

    • Ken Oath says:

      10:34am | 02/02/13

      The main thrust of Liberal policy will be to unravel and undo the damage caused by five years of Labor policies and to restore some credibility and integrity to government. That should keep them pretty busy for most of their first term.

    • Joe Blow says:

      10:45am | 02/02/13

      Two ministers resign - cue articles by Laurie and Mal about this being Tony Abbott’s fault or a masterstroke in re-building by Gillard.

    • Rolls Canardly says:

      11:21am | 02/02/13

      Just watched the most extraordinary press conference!
      Gillard, Roxon, and Evans all saying this was planned from as far back as last year! Oh, please!!! Old Juliar just can’t seem to help herself! I planned this circus, is what she effectively was saying! Incredible!
      Then there was the galling spectacle of Evans claiming to be proud of presiding over changes to the immigration act that saw the resumption of people smuggling, costing tens of billions of dollars to the Australian taxpayer, and resulting in the deaths of more than a thousand people… Hate to see what he calls a failure!
       
      And apparently Nicola thinks it is vital that the ALP be returned at the next election as a matter of public safety… Priceless!
       
      Can’t wait to be rid of these self-serving clowns. Roll on September!

    • TheFatMan says:

      11:38am | 02/02/13

      Hank…. the government, regardless of flavour, only thinks it runs the country when in truth the Oligarchs (who care not about us only about money), at least one of whom is no longer a citizen (renounced when he took US citizenship), actually do and at the moment I can’t see them actually wanting either lot in Canberra so this could be another line ball election with independants and Greens making up the balance of power.

    • Sarah Bath says:

      12:13pm | 02/02/13

      No,  you are wrong.  This election campaign is equally about the role of the more intelligence progresive parties.  How about giving Christine Milne and sarah Hanson Young airtime.  It is about our ideas for the future. Sure while the main parties are on the nose ours is not and you will find we are close to being on track to govern in our own right.  People want a better future for our country. They dont want to be bombarded with neocon properganda.

    • Bill says:

      01:09pm | 02/02/13

      LOL You should have your own comedy show sweetie..

    • Tropical says:

      01:38pm | 02/02/13

      Yep the greens sure are progressive. There share of the vote is down to around 8%. On September 14 known as Clean Up Australia day the greens also will be consigned to history. And good riddance.

    • JTZ says:

      02:04pm | 02/02/13

      @Sarah accoding to Green views, if I disagree woth their views I can be sent to jail and I have no right to have my own thoughts.

      What are your view of Iran and Al Quida Sarah

    • Magwitch says:

      03:48pm | 02/02/13

      Yes - you’ve really got watch that ‘properganda’.

    • youdy beaudy says:

      12:13pm | 02/02/13

      The thing about Tony Abbott trying to make a better image so people especially women will warm to him after his hissy fits against them will be a thing of whether leopards ever change their spots. As far as Kevin goes, well, he would probably like the job back but he will have to run and front a vote in the caucus and see if he can get the numbers against Ms Gillard and it may well end up as before for him.

      Why, if Gillard is no good isn’t there a challenge being put now along with the two resignations. Malcolm Turnbull should put a challenge to Mr Abbott and see whether he has the support to lead. Last time he lost by only one vote.

      If it’s time for a clean out then the clean out stabilize both parties should happen now so they can settle down for hopefully a clean honest election. Get away from party bickering and sledging and let the people who vote, the most important people of all in the equation, decide and give their support for or against from that change coming through. Both parties need to sweep their backyards instead of sweeping each others and look at their faults. Yes, the Liberals are not as squeakey clean as they put forward.

      But, it is still in Australia that people vote for the different parties because it is a family tradition to be either Labor or Liberal, call them the diehards. They will vote regardless that way. Then there are the swinging voters, so they all should watch out for them. Those who make up their minds on the day of the election may well be the ones who decide the fate of Abbott or Gillard. It may well be a hung parliament again and whoever wins will be seeking the support of the Greens and Independents again. I think it will be a very close result so i think that Liberal supporters should not pre empt the outcome as going to their man as it may be nothing like they think. We will all find out in September not before. A positive image is what is called for from both sides of politics for the sake of the peoples future.

    • pa_kelvin says:

      12:39pm | 02/02/13

      youdy… The only way Turnbull will be PM is if he resigns from the LNP coalition, become an Independent for a couple of weeks and then joined the ALP… Then he’d be a shoe-in…

    • Ryan says:

      12:30pm | 02/02/13

      I’m a Libral supporter (used to be Labor supporter) and what disappoints me about Malcolm Turnbull is his biggest fans are Labor voters and leftie journalists!!! That’s why I believe Tony Abbott is the best option for Liberal party because it’s very clear Labor and its supporters want a weak enemy…

    • NSS says:

      12:53pm | 02/02/13

      The funny thing is that both Turnbull and Rudd are disliked by segments of their parties a lot more than by the general public. The complexion of this election would change quite dramatically if they chose to do what was best electorally for their respective parties rather than worry about internecine loyalties, which is what Malcolm appears to be saying. However, the best thing either party could do is to dump their leaders and let Rudd and Turnbull fight it out. Doubt that will happen now however.

      All I can say then is LNP supporters are already gloating about the public dislike of Gillard. Hold onto your hats, folks, because you ain’t seen nothing yet. If the country is unfortunate enough to have TA as our next PM, the levels of vilification will be astronomical.

    • H B Bear says:

      12:58pm | 02/02/13

      Nice one Jabba.

      Those two are as clapped out as you are.

    • LJ says:

      01:03pm | 02/02/13

      The girls and the tears at the press conference. Tell me I’m dreaming!

    • SASMITH says:

      04:04pm | 02/02/13

      Yeah, the script & acting was unbelievable.

    • Yon Toad says:

      01:06pm | 02/02/13

      Raise your eyes Laurie. Your girl looks more and more like Captain PM Titanic each day.

    • Mk50 of Brisbane says:

      01:06pm | 02/02/13

      Good God.

      Serious question, what does it take to make you get a clue?

      And you wonder why inside the parliamentary triangle the press gallery are known as ‘Julia’s presstitutes’.

      It really is time to get some professional journalists into Canberra, ones that might actually hold government to account irrespective of it being the Libs or the Goat Rodeo.

    • Tropical says:

      01:43pm | 02/02/13

      ‘Malcolm Turnbull should put a challenge to Mr Abbott and see whether he has the support to lead. Last time he lost by only one vote.’
      God this such tiresome BS.
      Turnbull does not have party room support. Understand.
      Next Abbott did not win by one vote last time.
      Abbott was relected leader UNOPPOSSED after the 2010 election.
      Why is it that simple facts are so hard for some people to understand?

    • Geronimo says:

      02:15pm | 02/02/13

      Could be some relevance in that piece Laurie. In handing The Abbott of Doom eight months grace, one suspects the Prime Minister could have been checking out Kismet according to Willy.
      Plenty of time for the Fearless Friar to learn how to play the Celebratory Ding Dong on the Belfry Ropes..Huh..aaaaagh!

    • tez says:

      02:37pm | 02/02/13

      The voters don’t like Gillard because she is a woman, and they don’t like Abbott because he is a dill, and there is not a lot either of them can do to modify that.

    • Tez says:

      02:42pm | 02/02/13

      The election campagne is not about Rudd and Turnbull as much as you would like it to. On this site it is all about a lost election that has never been excepted.

    • Flora says:

      03:33pm | 02/02/13

      Kevin Rudd is history and Julia has withstood the most viscious onslaught of venom from both the public and journalists and she is still there!  Today was a good day as we say goodbye to two good people but welcome an excellent new A.G. Mark Dreyfus who will just cream George Brandis and the other changes of Ministry are great.  Changing the deck chairs is a good idea now if it has to be done and thank goodness we have bright innovative Ministers and not the old rehashed tired lazy ones from the Howard Ministry.  What great ads there will be with 12 of Howard’s Ministry with scenes of children Overboard, contributions to the Iraqi war which led to the deaths of 300,000 innocent children and women, 9 Ministers that had to resign in disgrace, yes nine, plus many who would not resign and the dreadful AWB scandal which Howard, Downer and Vaile ran from and cooked the enquiry.  Memories seem very dulled here.  Please also remember that the Labor / Fraser/Howard 96Billion debt was paid for by the Howard Government selling off 71Billion of our assetts not by good hard minimist savings.

    • Magwitch says:

      03:41pm | 02/02/13

      Word is that there are going to be more resignations from the Labor ranks - those who see the next 7 months as being too hard going for a loss at the other end. Ironic that so many who came out against Rudd when he challenged because he wasn’t inclusive and did things without proper consultation now have an even bigger problem on their hands in that regard with Gillard and her Captain’s Picks etc.
      Turnbull may still have aspirations to be leader again but at the moment would not have the numbers and he would not have been able to handle being beaten up by Gillard and Co on a regular basis the way Abbott has. All this ‘preferred leader’ talk comes from journos who want to muddy the waters but as has been stated, voters have more pressing concerns than personality comps (we’re not all addicted to crap reality shows) and Laurie - you should know better.

 

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