For the second time in five days one of the nation’s political leaders has gone MIA in 7.30 Reportland.

There's only one Tony Abbott…slugging it out with O'Brien tonight.

It was Kevin Rudd’s turn last week, with the robotic PM overriding his own software with an uncharacteristically human snap at Kerry O’Brien over the failure of the Copenhagen summit: “It might be easy for you to sit in 7.30 Report Land and say that was easy to do,” Rudd spat. “Let me tell you mate, it wasn’t.”

But tonight, it was Tony Abbott who found himself entangled in a protracted and excruciating exchange about “the two Abbotts” over his different positions on new taxes and maternity leave. And if Kevin Rudd lost his cool last week, Tony Abbott simply got lost - and he’s given Labor some great negative material ahead of the campaign.

O’Brien was asking Abbott a series of valid questions about how, in February, the Opposition Leader said on radio that there would be absolutely no new taxes under a Coalition Government, and then just one month later announced that a $2.7 billion tax would be imposed on large businesses to fund paid parental leave.

Abbott tried to draw a very cute distinction between those things that are said in the heat of the moment, such as on a radio interview, versus what he called “carefully prepared scripted remarks” which should be taken with more gravity.

This was the key exchange:

Abbott: “Kerry, all of us when we are in the heat of verbal combat so to speak will sometimes say things that go a little bit further.”

O’Brien: “Mr Abbott, we are not all leaders of major political parties.”

Abbott: “Politicians are going to be judged on everything they say, but sometimes, in the heat of discussion, you go a little bit further than you would if it was an absolutely, uh, calm, considered, prepared, scripted remark. Which is one of the reasons why, the, the the statements that need to be taken absolutely, as, as gospel truth is those carefully prepared, scripted remarks.”

Abbott seemed to suggest later that O’Brien was merely dragging up maternity leave as an old issue. “This is an argument we could have had in March,” he said.

He then bristled when O’Brien suggested that the maternity leave example helped explain why Abbott was known in the party as “the weathervane”. Abbott said he didn’t think many people called him that. O’Brien then reminded Abbott of his claim at a meeting in a small Victorian town that climate change was “absolute crap”, even though he was saying on the national stage that something clearly had to be done about it.

O’Brien was right to point out that it all sounded a bit reminiscent of John Howard’s famous distinction between “core” and “non-core” promises. 

Abbott was being smashed all over Twitter tonight - not that surprising, given it has a lot of commie users - but he still deserved the flak. It was a rotten performance, it made him look like a sophist who would say anything if he thought there was a vote in it. Clearly he’s no orphan there. But at this stage in the cycle, when he’s attacking Rudd as the flip-flop guy, he can scarcely afford another night like tonight.

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    • Commie User says:

      11:49pm | 17/05/10

      Kerry O’Brien for PM!

      That is all.

    • shabangabang says:

      09:48am | 18/05/10

      Kerry as PM, Julia Gillard as his deputy. Ranga heaven down under.

    • commie army says:

      10:05am | 18/05/10

      I’ve looked under the bed and I can only see old, dessicated commies commies—and not one is using Twitter!
      Nice article, Pembo/Dumbo, shame about the stupid slur.

    • ADAM says:

      10:14am | 18/05/10

      Yep, i will vote for Kerry too

    • Ryan says:

      11:11am | 18/05/10

      And you would have a blatantly communist government

    • Joan says:

      11:58am | 18/05/10

      Kerry -The guy who didn’t wake up to Rudds snakeoil sales pitch till 2010.- real sharp leader that would make dah, dah, dah

    • AntiMajorMistakes or Others Man says:

      12:45pm | 18/05/10

      Attention all left right out punchers.

      You have just seen an excellent example of why the next election will see the return of real minor parties & independents. As opposed the red/greens who always were a fake shop front, to fool disgruntled ex getup/labour voters into thinking they could have a protest vote & then feed the preferences back to getup/labour anyway.

      Don’t worry, Wayne Fehlhaber the Liberal/National coalition will still win the next election by a huge margin. But this will be off the back of preferences from minor parties who will be holding the balance of power in the senate.

      Have a long hard look at all of the comments on this & all of “the Punch’s” political articles.

      There are a significant & growing number of commenter’s like myself or John A Neve, Son of a Preacher Man, Scott Maxworthy, Damocles, Angus, Dancan, Sherekahn, Shane, Acropolis, Athena, Swampy, Against the Man, Super D, Edward James, Democrat, Bruce, Dave, Ben81, Axolotl.

      Next election put red/greens, last, getup/labour 2nd last, liberals 3rd last, nationals 4th last, put all minor parties, independents ahead of them.

      Then if nothing else the major mistakes might realise how tired of them, we all are & lift their game.

      http://www.democrats.org.au/

      http://ausfirst.alphalink.com.au/

      http://www.ldp.org.au/

      http://australianpolitics.com/parties/list.shtml

      regards the former snag & swinging voter.

    • TB says:

      01:17pm | 18/05/10

      While Kerry O’Brien may be exceptionally skilled at asking questions, it remains to be seen if he can actually answer any himself.

    • Robert S McCormick says:

      01:42pm | 18/05/10

      Not possible! He is too direct and honest. Tobe a successful pollie you have to be a pathological and consumate liar, Due to psychological incapacity be incapable of asking, or answering, a direct question. Kerry is far too intelligent to even contemplate such a role!

    • Kerry for PM says:

      04:31pm | 18/05/10

      Onya Kerry! Keep the bastards honest…...

    • Jeremy says:

      08:50am | 19/05/10

      “AntiMistakes” just wants you to vote for the minor parties that are no threat to the major parties, and preference the Coalition. That’s what his/her proposal boils down to

      The only real alternative to Labor and the Liberals is the Greens - as evidenced by the viciousness with which both attack it. Don’t believe the lies the majors tell about them - if you’re curious about a Greens policy (particularly one misrepresented by the ALP or Libs), ask ‘em. They’ll be happy to clarify what their ACTUAL policy is.

    • Alex White says:

      11:51pm | 17/05/10

      Abbott has asked that we judge him on his words since becoming leader of the opposition, and to forget everything he said before.

      Bringing back WorkChoices, new taxes, forcing his morality onto Australians, saying that climate change was “crap”, cutting over $1 billion from health while Minister, and ignoring education, skills and training while Minister.

      No wonder he wants Australians to have a short memory.

    • little annie says:

      08:22am | 18/05/10

      human induced climate change =crap
      cutting $1b from healthcare= lie
      Workchoices = jobs and an economy thats saved us from recession not giveaways and corruption.

    • Joan says:

      09:36am | 18/05/10

      Actions speak louder than words- Rudd classic example of all hot air and little action. ETS in the crap bin too busy with his phoney concern with daily bedside hospital visits. Rudd is top of the phoney chart and dud policy implementation.

    • Evan Findlay says:

      10:53am | 18/05/10

      Little Annie it would appear by your comments that they were not scripted. Tony did cut one billion dollars from healthcare. It’s listed in the budget papers. Are you saying Peter Costello misled the Australian parliament and the electorate?

    • RT says:

      11:41am | 18/05/10

      little annie - if human induced climate change is ‘crap’ as you and Abbott say - why does he have a policy that pretends to do something about it? If Workchoices is so great, why does Abbott try to distance himself from it at every opportunity? These things are like a dead cat around Abbott’s neck, except perhaps to rusted-on supporters like you.

    • Cam says:

      12:05pm | 18/05/10

      little annie if you REALLY think humans have no contribution to climate change you are more of a braindead sheep than i could possibly have thought.

    • Sherekahn says:

      12:47pm | 18/05/10

      Aaaah but!  Australia has fairly recently become a God-awful country of Christians.
      In a mere 2000 years, the Population of the World has increased at least 10 fold.  When Jesus is said to have remarked, “go forth and multiply,” I doubt if he meant as human destroyers of the Earth.
      People=Factories=Pollution=Climate Change=Chaos=Global Degradation=Loss of Nature’s Flora and Fauna!
      And people say, “we are God’s creatures.” 
      We are a VIRUS on Earth.
      Spreading people around the World is no solution at all.
      Populations must be reduced.   
      Mr Abbot is guilty of Ecocide.  He has refused a condom after having two children.

    • G David says:

      01:21pm | 18/05/10

      RT - if the punters believe that carbon is a pollutant and that humans are the cause of global warming then it is smart politics to pander to their fears and pretend that you can solve their problem.

      Conversely, if the punters (thanks to a multi-million $ Union advertising campaign) are deceived that Workchoices is bad, then it is good politics to distance yourself from it.

      As Howard and Costello found out the hard way, it is much harder to educate people about Climate change and workchoices than it is to use negative advertising and a whole lot of spin to frighten them into voting Labor.

    • Sherekahn says:

      01:28pm | 18/05/10

      OH BOY! Here we go again!
      The FREE-THINKERS worst nightmare. A World Populated by Catholics! Thankfully, I don’t think it will come to that.
      The most IN-present for future years at Christmas and Birthdays for under-40’s will be A PACK OF CONDOMS, or PILLS. We cannot wait for the Catholic Church to choose a YOUNG POPE, so leave them or disobey the TYRANTS.
      The realities of the modern and future world demand Birth Control and a Tax on Ecocides. (anyone with more than two children).

    • Ras Putin says:

      01:30pm | 18/05/10

      Hang in there Malcolm,you will soon be needed…..Abbott told the truth on this occasion,but it just shows that he is not up to the job!!

    • Baz says:

      01:31pm | 18/05/10

      Character assasination. Is this all you have Alex?? Whats wrong with morality?’ Are you better   off under fairwork australia? No .Man made climate change is your opinion but there is plenty evidence that it may be a natural phenomenon. And what education revolution??Billions ,yes thousands of millions of dollars wasted for absolutely no increase in student standards. And what about the takeover of hospitals??When did that happen??. You sound like a Kevin rudd attack dog to me. Show the man some respect.

    • Ben81 says:

      02:10pm | 18/05/10

      Evan Findlay, OK, go back and read all the funding announcements Nicola Roxon posted here the other day.  When (yes when, not if) one or more of them fail to reach their targets and all the money isn’t spent, we’ll say that amount was “ripped out of the healthcare system”, ignoring all the other funding increases.  Fair’s fair, right?

    • Christian Real says:

      10:34pm | 18/05/10

      Joan,
      The Liberals control the Senate,Abbott blocked the ETs and wouldn’t let it pass through.
      It is Abbott that is to blame, not Rudd.

    • Evan Findlay says:

      05:10pm | 19/05/10

      Ben81, why am I doing your research for you! If you want to make a valid point then do your own research. And Tony’s billion was not money that wasn’t spent it was cuts to the health system. Geez you Liberal Party supporters are lazy.

    • Alex White says:

      11:52pm | 17/05/10

      Abbott has asked that we judge him on his words since becoming leader of the opposition, and to forget everything he said before.

      Bringing back WorkChoices, new taxes, forcing his morality onto Australians, saying that climate change was “crap”, cutting over $1 billion from health while Minister, and ignoring education, skills and training while Minister.

      No wonder he wants Australians to have a short memory.

    • James says:

      08:38am | 18/05/10

      I find myself in agreeance with you for the second time

    • Dan says:

      06:51pm | 18/05/10

      Someone will have to enlighten me:  I just can’t seem to remember the policy that forces Tony Abbot’s morality onto anyone.  Alex, would you please say precisely which policy that was?  Exactly how would all our personal private lives be negatively affected if he became Prime Minister?  Are you accusing him of an anti-democratic disregard for the laws of our land?  - otherwise how could he possibly force his morality on anyone?  Or are you just frustrated because you wish you could force your morality onto Australians but no-one seems to listen to you?

    • Thomas Solman says:

      12:48am | 19/05/10

      Dan, didn’t T Abbott tell us not give away our daughters virginity to loosely?

    • Chrisd_Owens says:

      11:54pm | 17/05/10

      Commies hey. Oh well, at least I don’t have to vote.

    • acotrel says:

      08:02am | 18/05/10

      Don’t be an ingrate! People who don’t vote throw the sacrifice of thousands of Australian soldiers back into their faces.  They fought two world wars for democracy, so you’d have political freedom to vote!

    • Adam Diver says:

      12:11pm | 18/05/10

      Acetrol are you being sarcastic, I can’t tell. If not being forced to vote is not much freedom, throw out compulsory voting.

    • Greensborough Growler says:

      11:55pm | 17/05/10

      The song “Bad Abbotts” came to mind tonight..

      Twobob Tone is his moniker from here on.

    • shane says:

      10:32am | 18/05/10

      Thanks Douglas. Very amusing. The death stare was fantastic. “If this is the way he acts on the 7:30 report, I mean, how’s he act when he’s behind closed doors”. Such a sanctimonious, hypocritical knob.

    • Xela says:

      10:40am | 18/05/10

      Check it out. Thanks, disturbed to say he least.

    • CLem says:

      10:47am | 18/05/10

      Gold. Maybe that’s why he gets into trouble. He’s tried lying on TV. Doesn’t work, gets caught out. Now he tries telling the truth. Doesn’t work, gets caught out. Obviously silence is his best option.

    • Evan Findlay says:

      10:59am | 18/05/10

      That is classic Douglas. Thanks for that. It just shows that nothing has changed. He is one of the worst liars because he continually gets caught out. Workchoices is dead…. yeah right Phoney Tony! The ads for the election are writing themselves. They will all end with “And spoken by Tony Abbott”

    • Sal says:

      01:22pm | 18/05/10

      Funny how Rudd, Gillard, Tanner, etc, can tell outright lies, half truths, breaks promises, etc, constantly, and the media calls it “doing back flips”, which, of course is so much more sanitised and acceptable than saying they tell lies.  Only Liberals lie, apparently.

    • Philip Crowley says:

      12:05am | 18/05/10

      Typo, 2nd last line Penbo… fli-flop. Agree with your analysis though, well done.

    • Richard says:

      12:05am | 18/05/10

      Train-crash television at its best. Rudd may have had a “meltdown” but Abbott was worse - he showed his true colours - he essentially admitted he’s a liar. The Lib spin machine must be in melt-down.
      Kerry smashes both leaders - legend.

    • Joan says:

      10:59am | 18/05/10

      Snakeoil salesman Rudd revealed for what he is, as he crapped his million ETS - Rudd true colours at work since election not just Kerry show- the real game not just Kerry game show- That`s what counts the action.

    • young wiberal says:

      11:15am | 18/05/10

      True Richard, the mad monk self-immolated.

    • Daniel says:

      01:11pm | 18/05/10

      Hey Joan, I think you should take a good look into what ‘crapped’ the ETS.

      What Abbott says might not become Policy, but it gives you a horrible idea of what is going on in his head. You don’t want that leading the country.

    • James1 says:

      01:32pm | 18/05/10

      Sense not much making Joan’s post is.

      Spoken with the eloquence of Glenn Beck.

    • Isabel says:

      02:12pm | 18/05/10

      Joan, are we in the same country? It was Abbott who sabotaged the ETS leaving Rudd with either double dissolution or put it on the back burner till the next election. Rudd has also committed to serving a full term so he would have been damned if he did and damned if he didn’t. What he was able to do such as apology and Kyoto, he has done - the rest requires the co-operation of the Senate.  He could and did initiate the stimulus package and, having been overseas and seen the economic carnage elsewhere, he has to be given credit for that.

    • chugga says:

      07:53pm | 18/05/10

      Ah, one of those people Joan is who Jedi on the census for religion answer

    • Axolotl says:

      12:07am | 18/05/10

      Gawd, no wonder a bloke is despondent these days. An election looming and a choice between two pelicans. Abbott is of course barking mad. His only consistency is his inconsistency. Any Cleggs out there wanting to start a Lib Dem party?

    • Jack says:

      12:50pm | 18/05/10

      Yeah… who’d of thought there would ever be a vacuum where the Democrats used to be. Australian Politics is in a bad state when an incompetent and high spending Krudd looks like the better option.

    • Joel says:

      05:40pm | 18/05/10

      There was an Australian Democrats party at one stage, but a deal with the Coalition successfully set the stage for their slow death in the late 1990s.

    • Ben81 says:

      12:10am | 18/05/10

      I agree on this issue the whole maternity leave thing and the funding for it has been strange from the start, I’m not really sure what to make of it.  Of course I can understand him wanting to steal the spotlight from Labor on particular issues when there’s no strong ideological reason not to, but not at the cost of appearing to be unpredictable when one of the things he has going for him is that generally people know exactly who he is whether they agree with him or not, as far as that’s possible with politicians.

      Anyway, I don’t really see anything noteworthy that we didn’t already know come out of this interview, but i’m sure the arguments about it here will be entertaining.

    • Tex says:

      12:22pm | 18/05/10

      It was a pitch for the female vote - not very well thought through.

    • Ben81 says:

      03:14pm | 18/05/10

      Yeah Tex, but I just got a sense of something out of character, something a bit too shallow and counterproductive in the situation..

    • Dave says:

      12:11am | 18/05/10

      Funny stuff Penbo. I used to think it was all a bit of Labor exaggeration, but I reckon Abbott is pretty nuts. This campaign is gonna be one hell of a ride. He might make Latham look boring.

    • Bruce says:

      12:57am | 18/05/10

      Given that Rudd and Abbott have had problems with Kerry O’Brien. Maybe Kerry O’Brien is the real problem.  All politicians are easy targets when you get down to it. No politician can not lay straight in bed at night. Maybe this will be the style for all future political interviews on 7.30 report ? Ratings for Kerry O’Brien must low !!

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      08:24am | 18/05/10

      It just isn’t good form for a would be alternative PM to be caught out lying, And how many times did we get poked up the behind by Howard…. seems to be a common strain in the Liberal party. And typically like Bruce above Liberals will always blame someone else. At least with Kev we know he takes the blame.

    • Wayne Fehlhaber says:

      09:09am | 18/05/10

      Yeah Rob , he takes the blame and passes it down the line. heh heh heh.  Krazy Kev’s backflips and bungles outshine any political act in the last 10 years.

    • Pendragon says:

      10:06am | 18/05/10

      @Rob r Charteris

      If its isn’t good form for an alternative PM to be caught out lying then it must be a grievous and unforgivable sin against humanity for a sitting PM to be caught out outrightly deceiving the Australian public to featehr his nest.

      Your sword has two edges with one sharper than the other.  Blind Freddy can see that KRudd has fallen on this word.

    • Steve_of_Cornubia says:

      10:08am | 18/05/10

      I think Tony has seen just how successful a strategy of lying and failure has been for Kevin (boat people, Grocerywatch, Fuelwatch, Insulation, BER, Health reform, our relationship with China, the ETS, federal/state relations, our reputation overseas, etc, ec) and so he’s decided to copy him.

    • Adam Diver says:

      12:17pm | 18/05/10

      Ignoring Rob’s comments I have to agree with Bruce. How easy is it for a reporter to catch out any politician. My real concern is that it doesn’t happen any where often enough.

    • Christian Real says:

      05:44am | 19/05/10

      The Liberals think and believe that “they Are born To Rule”, perhaps they should alter their perception of thinking and believing to"Born To Lie.’
      Tony Abbott sure can’t get away with his lies because everytime he fronts ABC programes he get caught out, .Abbott was caught out lying also on Four corners in 2003, htttp://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/08/27/1061663854618.html

    • Democrat says:

      01:16am | 18/05/10

      Thank God for Kerry O’Brien.  The Rudd interview and now this.  What a delight!  The one last week at least made Rudd look real rather than robotic This for Abbott was definitive - he will say whatever it takes as his backflips on climate change and maternity leave have shown.  But Abbott has now given fair warning to the Australian people - don’t believe anything he says unless he gives it to you in writing.

    • Robert S McCormick says:

      12:49pm | 18/05/10

      Just what back-flip on either climate change ormaternity leave are you talking about? We all knew Abbott was/is a climate change sceptic and was opposed to Rudd’s ETS/CPRS, which even many experts on the issue agreed was ‘deeply flawed’. Maternity leave back-flip? Where’s that. He told us that a Coalition Government would give 6 months and it would be funded with a tax on companies whose profits exceeded, if memory serves, $5m per year. However I agree with you when you say “Thank God (if you believe in one) for Kerry O’Brien. They must really hate him! No-one can accuse the ABC of political bias now can they???

    • persephone says:

      06:55pm | 18/05/10

      Robert

      the backflip referred to is that, prior to the parental leave policy announcement, Abbott had consistently said he would not introduce any new taxes.

      Moreover, this wasn’t an ‘unscripted’ or unsupported policy statement - it had been agreed to by the party room and was one of the Liberals’ main claims to economic credibility. Several of his Shadows pushed the ‘no new tax’ line as well.

      This was also in the context of painting the CPRS as ‘a great new tax on everything’ with the argument that, although it wasn’t a tax and only polluting companies would buy carbon credits, its costs would trickle down to the general populace through increased prices (which were, btw, compensated by the government for this).

      Abbott announced his parental leave plan in an unplanned, unscripted, off the cuff speech. He had not cleared it with the party room and had to beg their forgiveness.

      To pay for this scheme, he proposed to tax all companies making over $5 million profit.

      By doing this, Abbott has undermined his credibility in the following ways:

      1. He introduced a new tax, less than a month after saying he would not do this.

      2. He didn’t consult with his party room, after campaigning to have Turnbull deposed for the same reason.

      3. He imposed a Great Big New Tax on Everything, if you use the same arguments he used against the CPRS, blunting the Liberals’ ability to use that argument.

      In the context of last night’s remarks, it’s even more interesting.

      1. Last night, he said the only policies you could believe him on were the scripted ones.

      2. The ‘no new tax’ was the scripted policy; the parental paid leave was not, yet it was the second which got up at the expense of the first.

      3. So you can’t believe Abbott’s policy statements when they’re scripted. And you can’t beieve them when they’re unscripted.

      All of which further demonstrates that he has no clue about good governance or economic management.

    • Saskia says:

      01:51am | 18/05/10

      The grey dishonest uber nerd public servant from hell vs a rhodes scholar….  mmm Abbott is so far above both Rudd and O’Brien that I don’t care what ‘mistakes’ he makes at this point.

      No more ALP Socialism by stealth.

    • John A Neve says:

      07:02am | 18/05/10

      Saskia,

      Based on your knowledge of “socialism” or should I say lack of it !!
      One could be forgiven for thinking you are one of the “dishonest uber public servant(s)”. Based on your posts no one else would employ you.

    • acotrel says:

      08:05am | 18/05/10

      Can we now have some social justice?

    • persephone says:

      08:27am | 18/05/10

      Didn’t watch the interview, did you, Saskia?

      Over on other blogs, even die hard Liberal supporters are admitting it was a terrible interview.

      For a leader to admit that you can’t trust what he says is….well, unbelievable.

    • Christian Real says:

      08:36am | 18/05/10

      Saskia,
      So you would prefer to follow Abbott, who admitted that he is a liar, the old saying is that people are known by the company they keep, I guess that makes you loose with the truth also.

    • T.Chong says:

      08:41am | 18/05/10

      Thats the way saskia, the Lie-berals head man is an unprincipled opportunist, will say anything, and thats OK with you?
      His “mistakes” are lies.

    • Dude says:

      09:25am | 18/05/10

      Above, that’s for sure. Abbott’s off the planet and you’re not far behind. Reality’s a difficult place for righturds

    • Wayne Fehlhaber says:

      10:56am | 18/05/10

      Saskia :  John is a specialist on Socialism. : acotrel ??????  :  persephone is a Labor dictaphone :  Christian is a parrot.  :  T. Chong is Julia Gillards love child and the Dude has a dirty mouth.
      Yes , i agree Saskia , i have the same view as you , compared to Rudd Tony can make what mistakes he likes , he is still the better man.

    • John A Neve says:

      11:12am | 18/05/10

      Wayne,
      So Tony is the “better man” !!  Is that “better” than Howard?  Or maybe “better” than Nelson?  Surely not “better” than Turnbull?

      But that’s your problem Wayne, you believe what ever the party tells you!!
      Come on tell us, who in your view is the best of the coalition’s many leaders of very recent times?

    • Saskia says:

      11:30am | 18/05/10

      As many have already said: nothing will make me not vote for Abbott.  He is real, an achiever and doe not have to conform to the petty rules that grey bureaucrats like Rudd and ex Labor speechwriter hacks like O’Brien claim to adhere to.

      No Rudd is a liar and a fraud.  A Christian Socialist and yet not Christian, a fiscal conservative yet not conservative.

      The ALP are without talent, ideas, non-PS/Union experience, business qualifications, or class.

    • Nicole says:

      11:42am | 18/05/10

      @Wayne Fehlhaber, you forgot to mention that they’re all a bunch of sheep. If you look close enough, you can see the mushrooms growing on Rudd’s chin, he speaks that much crap. He is the master of disaster and it’s mind boggling that they still support the numpty. Abbott will kick Rudd’s ass and I can’t wait.

    • Evan Findlay says:

      12:10pm | 18/05/10

      Saskia, you should read Michal Duffy’s book “Latham and Abbott”. It would appear from Tony’s educational endeavours you don’t have to be that bright to be a Rhode scholar. And secondly, the book is littered with examples of Abbott being caught out lying, this is not Kerry’s first time in outing Tony as a compulsive liar. I think your comment says more about your morals and level of education than anything else. Do you even understand the principles of socialism?

    • Hamish says:

      12:19pm | 18/05/10

      Like most Australian voters I didn’t watch the interview. I, like many others, can only stomach so much of Red Kerry. And look, I do understand why the fellow-travellers are creaming their pants about this. After all, they haven’t had much to celebrate lately. But outside the blogosphere I just wonder whether anyone will really care about this. I mean, everyone understands that policians exaggerate (e.g. greatest moral challenge of our time) and change their views based on the prevailing winds of public opinion (e.g. ETS).

      Sure Tony screwed up. He has to (and probably does) understand that Liberal politicians are held to higher standards of truthfulness than Labor by both the media and the electorate. However, I don’t think anyone in voter land would really think what he said is untrue of any politician. Ironically he is being lambasted for telling the truth about occasionally exaggerating and chaging his mind.

      Did anyone see Tanner on Q & A last night re the mining tax? That’s a classic example of a politician having to sell something he doesn’t believe in…this sort of stuff happens all the time.

    • Ras Putin says:

      01:42pm | 18/05/10

      Saskia,all i can say is that the entry level for a Rhodes scholarship must be extremely low!! As far as an interviewer is concerned, O’Brien is so far ahead of anybody else in this country,that it is no race..

    • Wayne Fehlhaber says:

      01:56pm | 18/05/10

      Evan Findlay :  Socialism has no principles.

      John Neve : Any Coalition leader is better than a Labor leader

      Nicole : Well said , Rudd’s verbal diarrhoea definately fertilizes mushrooms on his chin. Abbott will kick his ass up around his back teeth.

      Saskia : Rudd’s fiscal consevative facade melted like whitewash in the rain of debt he ran up.

    • John A Neve says:

      05:07pm | 18/05/10

      Wayne,

      Based on your last post, you really have a way with words!!
      But at least you have answered one question “Any coalition leader is better than a Labor leader”.
      Just as I thought, you’d follow a dog, along with the rest of the party faithfull as long as the head office told you to. Do you lick hands as well?

    • Christian Real says:

      07:21am | 19/05/10

      Nicole.
      Supporters of other political party’s are , at least not ‘Blind Sheep”, like you ,Wayne and the other Liberals that condone Abbott’s lying on National Television.
      And Nicole, it is not the first time that Abbott has been caught out on an ABC programe for ‘Being loose With the truth’
      On Four Corners in 2003, abbott was caught out lying as well.
      http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/08/27/1061663854618.html

    • Sherekahn says:

      09:45am | 19/05/10

      When is a lie not a lie?  When it is coupled with another.
      Archaic. to have sexual intercourse with.

      Saskia,  to accuse Rudd or his version of the ALP of “Socialism” is as bad as believing Catholics care about “God’s” creatures.

    • fred says:

      01:53am | 18/05/10

      Pattern of speaking before thinking . The empty words fail him… not enough substance= Liberal Lite

    • Katea says:

      02:19am | 18/05/10

      Are Tony;s ears getting bigger?
      Otoplasty was all I could think of when watching this interview.
      I thought your nose grew when telling porkies.

    • Edward James says:

      03:40am | 18/05/10

      Vote to create change in the woeful attitude of our sitting politicians. Put those in power now back in the street. Vote in anyone who is not subservient to the two parties not much preferred. Then wait four years and do that again if needed. Until our representatives get the message they are not the party reps, they are to take their direction in democratic government from the masses. That has not happened in Australia at all three levels of government for a dam long time. Most people who join a political party have their spine removed as part of the process. Edward James

    • Ryan says:

      11:13am | 18/05/10

      Wanna see Rudd and Joolia lie, just turn on the telly and watch ANYTHING they say.

    • Samantha says:

      05:50am | 18/05/10

      So if this has been known since March why haven’t any journos asked him about it? Has been Abbott been protected from his obvious lies?

    • beck says:

      05:59am | 18/05/10

      “commie” - haha, great one David. Going back to your Daily Telegraph roots.

    • Just me says:

      09:51am | 18/05/10

      “Abbott was being smashed all over Twitter tonight - not that surprising, given it has a lot of commie users -”
      The article was good in the main until the last comment re Commies and Twitter use, just how do you define ‘Commie’ these days?
      As for Abbott, he is as flakey as a $3.00 coin

    • beck says:

      10:34am | 18/05/10

      totally agree Just me, Penbo is just another murdoc-hack! He loves to see a fight and earn his pay in angry clickers.
      He would traditionally be gently supportive of the fiberals but here he writes in a very down to earth where he must lash out at twitterers as a diversion as Abbott said the bare truth about himself-LOL

    • Clem says:

      11:02am | 18/05/10

      I think you’ll find it was said tongue in cheek.

    • Chris L says:

      07:18pm | 18/05/10

      Don’t bother Clem, the idea of humour escapes them. Note that when one sense doesn’t function the other senses become hightened, in this case the sense of outrage.

    • Super D says:

      07:01am | 18/05/10

      Of course there is a difference between one off, off the cuff remarks, a considered statement, a policy speech and a repeated mantra.  If there is a story here it is that Abbott fluffed once again under the pressure of an interview.  His problem is that he actually tried to give an answer to O’Brien’s question rather than simply ignoring it. The guy simply doesn’t interview well, he certainly doesn’t have the PM’s ability to waffle for so long while saying nothing that the original question has been forgotten by the interviewer.

    • Adam Diver says:

      12:23pm | 18/05/10

      Spot on. Political interviews are so painful to watch as you see the pltician move thier mouth but say nothing at all. As much as I prefer Tony to be more considered in his responses and patient in releasing policy I wouldn’t be overly concerned by his poor interviewing skills.

    • Your name:Bill Posters says:

      02:16pm | 18/05/10

      No, he doesn’t interview well. What is it again that he does do well? Er… ummm… he,he,he…

    • UNTRUSTWORTHY says:

      07:53am | 18/05/10

      When will hard right wingers learn? WHether it be Tony Abbott, or John Howard or neocons like George Bush- all they stand for turns to SHIT!

    • Super D says:

      08:51am | 18/05/10

      As opposed to everything the Rudd government touches turning to gold?

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      09:19am | 18/05/10

      Could not of said it better myself

    • Aikon says:

      11:01am | 18/05/10

      @Untrustworthy.  And I take it you are using the Rudd Governments gross incompentency as your measuring stick? It’s leftards that are a danger to this country….you know, those who expect someone else to be responsible for them.  I think the long list of failed programs the Rudd Government has turned to SHIT.

    • acotrel says:

      07:58am | 18/05/10

      So you think Gillard might challenge Rudd for the leadership? - knife him in the back, so to speak? I suggest you are thinking of another political party altogether? I wonder what Malcolm Turnbull thinks of Abbott’s crash and burn?

    • Christian Real says:

      08:48am | 18/05/10

      Acotrel,
      That might be the reason Turnbull decided to stay in Parliament instead of resigning.
      Turnbull probably only knew it was a matter of time before Abbott crashed and burned, and he (Turnbull) would be on the spot to re-challenge for Leadership.

    • Evan Findlay says:

      12:33pm | 18/05/10

      Someone had to have leaked Tony’s flaky economic policy of giving $10,000 to stay at home mothers to Neil Mitchell. I believe it was Malcolm. But even Malcolm probably didn’t realise how much of an idiot Tony really is until he appeared on Neil’s morning program. Firstly he was caught out lying and then went on to describe himself as a “disappointment” and a “whimp”. Obviously the last two statements were scripted as they are the truth.

      But it’s interesting that the media wants to speculate over leadership in the Labor Party where there seems to be no evidence of a coup or remote possibility but I think there’s more likelihood of the knives being out for the leader of the opposition. His continual stuff up’s, compulsive lying, flaky and irresponsible economic policies and his continual change of direction on policy from believer to non believer to I’m not quite sure! It will appear that Malcolm may just yet have the last laugh. How long will the Liberal Party allow this phoney Tony train wreck to continue? I hope they don’t dump him too soon. I’m loving every minute.

      And to all those who state “Yeah but Tony is real”. Yes he is…...A real incompetent buffoon.

    • acotrel says:

      08:18am | 18/05/10

      Hey Tony, get away from behind that elephant! - TOO LATE - DIG HIM OUT!

    • Against the Man says:

      08:30am | 18/05/10

      I still think tony is a better choice then rudd. C’mon guys rudd has actually lied, broken promises and wasted tons of our money. Kicking rudd out sends a message to all political parties - deliver results or take a hike. rudd/gillard/swan wouldn’t last 2 seconds in the private sector based on their performance so far.

    • John A Neve says:

      08:55am | 18/05/10

      The only thing that will send a “message to all political parties” is for the electorate to either withhold their votes or vote for Independents.

      The country needs new blood Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum have had a good run and both have let us down.

    • iansand says:

      09:31am | 18/05/10

      Abbott, as opposition leader, has not (yet) had the chance to break promises.  On current form it’s odds on that he will should he become PM.

    • Xela says:

      10:46am | 18/05/10

      Based on his comments last night Tony will break promises he hasn’t even made yet!

    • Evan Findlay says:

      12:54pm | 18/05/10

      Problem is Tony has no policy or promises to break. He has no substance, unless you count continually getting caught out lying as substance.

    • Glenn says:

      03:27pm | 18/05/10

      As a political scientist it is mind blowing to see that the vast public are still going to vote in rudd. Guess that is what happens when you don’t see the big picture.

    • John A Neve says:

      06:38pm | 18/05/10

      Glen,

      I am not a “political scientist”, Also I do not claim to be very bright. However, I think I see the “big picture” very clearly.  Twelve years of a coalition government did what?
      Tax cuts to buy votes, our young men sent to “war” based on lies. An ongoing fight betweem the PM and Treasurer. Added to which we have had three coalition leaders in less than three years!!!

      Would any clear thinking person want three more years of that?

    • Christian Real says:

      08:42am | 18/05/10

      Now as well as outline liberal policies at his Press Club address, that Tony Abbott failed to deliver during his reply to budget speech, Hockey will have to try to attempt to defend the “shadow” Liberal leader who has admitted on the 7.30 report that he is loose with the truth.
      Even if Abbott put his promise in writing are they worth anything now that he as admitted to lying.

    • Adam Diver says:

      12:28pm | 18/05/10

      If you admit to lying you are telling the truth. If you say you don’t lie, well then I am afraid you are a liar. Go figure.

    • Swampy says:

      08:43am | 18/05/10

      Abbott’s right, it’s easy to tell when a Polly is lying. You can see their lips move.

    • Scott Maxworthy says:

      08:52am | 18/05/10

      OMG - Pollies talking double speak - now there’s a news flash! 

      Great TV - even had the silent majority politically apathetic engaged - twas a bit like watching a Gomez Adams train crash in slow motion (with a new fast NBN we could watch the replay much faster). 

      Thank you Kerry.

    • Athena says:

      09:00am | 18/05/10

      Beware of Geeks bearing gifts, no matter what side they are on.

    • acotrel says:

      09:44am | 19/05/10

      I don’t think it was a brilliant move by tony but I can’t see the harm either.

      There are none so blind as those who will not see?  Some of you guys are really into wishful thinking. Abbott is finished!

    • T.Chong says:

      09:01am | 18/05/10

      How funny it is watching the Abbott syncophants trying to defend their deliberately lie-ing leader. !!!
      Abbott is a liar, and now the spotlight will be firmly on his (lack of) credability.

    • Freeman says:

      10:59am | 18/05/10

      Tell you what’s funny. All the labor lovers who swallow everything Ruddy, swanny, joolya, pete & penny tell them.
      Labor and it’s followers will jump on this admission and make a bigger deal of it than it is, they’ll only make themselves look hypocritical. Kevin rudd has big issue’s with trust right now which is shown clearly in the polls. I don’t think it was a brilliant move by tony but I can’t see the harm either.

    • me my mo says:

      12:21pm | 18/05/10

      It was amusing when Rudd sycophants were doing similarly a week ago, too.

    • Acropolis says:

      09:01am | 18/05/10

      Sounds like it’s all Greek to me!

    • Christian Real says:

      09:15am | 18/05/10

      Against the Man,
      It appears that Rudd hasn’t been able to make good with some of his promises simply because the Liberals have control of the Senate, and Abbott, just makes a habit of blocking policies from passing through the senate.
      Abbott has been caught out for lying on the 7.30 report, which is not the first time that Abbott has been caught out for lying on National Television.
      This story is about Abbott’s appearance on the Four Corners programe in 2003.
      “Abbott defends himself by confusing the issue, by Deborah Shaw, August 28,2003”
      This story can be found at: http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/08/27/1061663854618.html

      .

    • Freeman says:

      11:25am | 18/05/10

      “It appears that Rudd hasn’t been able to make good with some of his promises simply because the Liberals have control of the Senate”
      Libs have control of the senate? why don’t the libs just start bringing in their own policies then? It aint just the libs blocking Labor policy. Labor could get their policies through with support from the greens and independants. Stop making excuses for your Labor darlings failures and broken promises which amount to lies.

    • haha says:

      01:38pm | 18/05/10

      Amazing! One has to ask - shouldn’t The Punch Libbers hate Tony Abbott? Short memories indeed or just ignorance, maybe both because they’re such bogans.

    • Diamantina Dick says:

      09:16am | 18/05/10

      I was struggling to understand Kerry’s persistent, pedantic negative, purile questioning and was begining to think he was just out to level the score since he inadvetently embarrassed the PM. I was begining to think he was just out there to try to deliberately embarass Tony Abbott at all costs but then he got the breakthrough and it all made sense. Tony Abbott admitted that he is sometimes known to over reach and can be prone to exaggerate but that carefully considered and scripted statements can be trusted.

      Tony Abbott again proves he is not playing by the same rules as the others. What he said was basically “Don’t believe everything you hear down at the pub”. Unfortunately for some this appears to be a news flash.

      Compare this to Rudd who has proven time and again he lies in both a casual manner (on the steps of the house to insulation installers) and also in a carefully considered and scripted manner (take your pick).

    • Tom says:

      10:55am | 18/05/10

      There is a different between a chat in the pub and a national press conference

    • Evan Findlay says:

      12:46pm | 18/05/10

      Diamantina Dick, Tony is a compulsive liar. This is not the first time Kerry has caught him out lying. Neil Mitchell caught him out lying last week. Face facts Diamantina Dick, the man is creepy and not very bright. Have you notice that he struggles to structure a sentence. You can see it in his expressions, his grasp on the Queens English is limited and he’s not coherent in expressing his thoughts, what ever the hell they may be. I can never understand him, too many umm’s and ahh’s for me.

      Maybe Tony should be interviewed by the presenters of Play School. Would that make you happy? After all they make a living out of talking to the infantile mind.

    • Mark says:

      11:14pm | 18/05/10

      Oh god. Seriously Evan?

      The hate is so cool in this thread

    • Old Clive says:

      09:18am | 18/05/10

      Of course it is totally different when the government does a backflip on its policies that have killed people and sent them broke and caused unemployment, and they have not finished yet, they will backflip on the reources tax,  oh well back to mushroom patch, we have never been so well fed since this mob of morons and liars have got the power of the treasury benches. This all just Whitlam revisited.

    • Diamantina Dick says:

      09:25am | 18/05/10

      It was interesting to watch Abbott on 7:30 and considering the subject then watching Lindsay Tanner on Q&A. Tanner has the ability to lie, distort and bare faced deny in a manner that is truly astounding. His ability to make bizzare analogies with complete impunity is a talent beyond peer. This stock in trade is applauded in one envioronment, yet seeming scorned in another. Go figure.

    • Adam Diver says:

      12:33pm | 18/05/10

      Its a funny thing, Abbott basically shows himself as a bad politicion (in the negative connotation) which we are all on here writing about how much we hate the politics of it all. And then he gets pummelled for it anyway.

      I hope he gets into power than a couple slips of the tongue reveal some of the very murky underbelly of australian politics.

    • shane says:

      09:25am | 18/05/10

      I don’t like Rudd or Abbott, though I’ll admit I dislike Abbott’s brand of crusade thuggery more offensive then Rudd’s easy to see through media spin. If Rudd had said this, the right wingers on these blogs would have gone off their nuts ripping him to pieces. I’m sure they’ll instead be highlighting it as “evidence of his straight talkin ways”.
      Obviously we all go to far when speaking sometimes, but I’m afraid that if you’re one of Australia’s leading politicians, you don’t have that luxury. When the things you say have national & even international implications, I would hope you have the self control and intelligence to consider your words before inflicting them on the masses.
      I don’t know, perhaps hyperbole was the general format of conversation in the time of Jesus, to which Abbott seems to have a direct line of communication.

    • Adam Diver says:

      12:36pm | 18/05/10

      “I don’t know, perhaps hyperbole was the general format of conversation in the time of Jesus, to which Abbott seems to have a direct line of communication. “

      Oh the irony!

      Plus I doubt an opposition would have international repercussions.

    • Sherekahn says:

      09:28am | 18/05/10

      There are other choices but certainly not the Greens.  Getting into bed with the opposition in WA, plus agreeing to Mr Abbots $2.7 billion tax on businesses for maternity leave!
      Why not try the ASPP, (Australian Stable Population Party)?
        The new UK coalition of Conservative and Liberal-Democrats has agreed to respond to public concern about immigration there.
      You can then give your preferences to one of the lousy two.
      Just remember it takes $millions of taxpayers money and lots of time to send them back!
      From SMH, 17/05/10.
      Sheikh Mansour Leghaei, who has raised his family in Sydney since moving here in 1994, was told by immigration officials this morning that he had finally lost his 13-year legal battle to stay in Australia.

    • sheedy's left foot says:

      09:31am | 18/05/10

      We bitch and moan when our pollies lie. Whenever they announce anything we cynically decry them as liars from the rooftops.

      When one of them actually tells the truth he gets pilloried and the political world enters meltdown….

      Which way do we want it? Becasue it seems to me that we cannot handle the truth.

    • Lily says:

      09:31am | 18/05/10

      Two neophyte leaders come unstuck courtesy Kerry Deadpan O’Brien. I love it. Of course one of the neophytes has actually been PM for nearly three years, while the other aspires to it (and, judged on last night’s performance) will never realise this aspiration. Kerry O’Brien will not be allowed to retire when have politicians such as this!

    • Scott Glennon says:

      09:38am | 18/05/10

      So our leaders lie.. This isn’t news..

    • Adam Diver says:

      12:42pm | 18/05/10

      I think the news is the fact Abbott admitted to lying which is telling the truth.

    • law student says:

      01:53pm | 18/05/10

      Errr no. It’s the way he justified his lyng, that was the pearl. I got some handy phrases to use on my clients. He shouldn’t have made the stupid claim about taxes in the first place. Which radio station was it on that he made the claim? If it was 2GB then I might find it acceptable, they lie about alot of things;)

    • Maria says:

      09:44am | 18/05/10

      twitter run by commies? gosh

    • Martin G says:

      10:26am | 18/05/10

      Twitter is full of watermelons and traffic lights.

    • Maria says:

      11:08am | 18/05/10

      Why is it only the other side who are not allowed to make silly, prejudiced comments? Fruit and road traffic instruments are inanimate, communists don’t run much outside of North Korea. Your arguments would be more intelligent and taken into consideration if they avoided the (fruit) loopy…

    • Gra Gra says:

      09:45am | 18/05/10

      Don’t be too hard on him. Anyone who professes to believe the voodooistic garbage that he clings to as a prop is both lacking in intelligence and unfit to lead the country. Unless of course it’s Haiti.

    • Andrew says:

      09:45am | 18/05/10

      About the only thing to be said for Kerry O’Brien is that he is openly left wing. The Rudd episode was no doubt carefully orchestrated to make Rudd appear more human. We won’t hear too much more about the back flips. The Abbott episode was designed to destroy credibility - to make Abbott appear like a bumbling fool. The constant ‘mad-monk’ reference is getting a little boring. He is neither mad, nor a monk. He has faults. We all do. Rudd has faults too - but it has taken the media a long time to admit them and, even now, the media is more sympathetic than critical. Rudd will use it to his advantage. The rest of us are just being used by the media.
      In the meantime, let’s face it. All politicians are loose with the truth - but at least Abbott was honest enough to admit it. Rudd would say that Labor pollies never lie.

    • Evan Findlay says:

      01:08pm | 18/05/10

      Andrew you have hit the nail on the head, ” to destroy credibility and make Abbott appear like a bumbling fool”. But it was not designed, Kerry asked the question and Abbott made a complete and utter fool of himself. It was all his own doing.

      I also have to take you to task on the comment that he is not mad. Andrew he is certifiable. How could you say something like he did last night, and as some commentators are saying this morning, “It has cost him the election”, and not say he is mad. You would have to be mad to say that he is not!

      And do you not think that it is a bit of a oxymoron to say ” At least he is honest in claiming that he is a liar”?

    • Chris L says:

      07:33pm | 18/05/10

      I love this conspiracy theory about the media manipulating the populace to vote left. Especially after studies have shown the Aussie media has a right wing bias. I guess the right need to find some reason for losing the last election without admitting that people were sick of them.

      PS, I’m not voting for Rudd either (mostly because of the planned internet censorship). Maybe the Liberal Democrats will rise to the challenge.

    • Nick says:

      09:48am | 18/05/10

      Here’s a challenge for Tony Abbott: show me one document, a cabinet minute, a speech, an unscripted verbal reaction.. whatever, where he called John Howard’s ETS that the Libs took to the election (and Rudd’s is after all basically the same) “a great big new tax”!

      Abbott is disgracefully all about negativity. Whilst I can’t quote it directly, didn’t Sir Robert Menzies once remark that a Senate majority used to block the legislation a recently elected government had a mandate for was an insult to democracy?

    • Adam Diver says:

      12:45pm | 18/05/10

      I don’t think the ETS was part of the election, that came after and so I would hardly call it a mandate

    • A Bob says:

      04:10pm | 18/05/10

      I thought action on AGW was a big part of the election. Wasn’t that why Howard had to cook up an ETS in the first place?

      Public expectation was that something would be done. Hence the decline in popularity after Rudds back-flip. I’ve never been too sure about the term ‘mandate’, but something close to it was there.

    • persephone says:

      08:22pm | 18/05/10

      Nonsense, Adam - both parties went to the election on the platform of delivering an ETS.

    • Mark says:

      11:18pm | 18/05/10

      And one cowardly shelved it.

      The other made a decision based on good sense, science and fact that went against the msm and general popularity.

      One side are cowards.

      The other have convictions.

      Your point was what again pers?Iit must be excruciating for you to lie to yourself like this. Have a bex and a lie down dear.

    • Comedian says:

      09:49am | 18/05/10

      I love about Abbott he reminds me of Vladimir Putin, likes to think he’s a real hard arse..

    • Ras Putin says:

      02:40pm | 18/05/10

      Comedian,he reminds me more of me—the real mad monk!!!  Cheers!

    • stephen says:

      04:09pm | 18/05/10

      Abbott’s soft. But Putin ? Have another look bro’. He’s a bit of a goose in front of the cameras, but I reckon Putin is a hard nut…real hard.

    • BrownDog says:

      09:53am | 18/05/10

      You’re all forgetting that Tony volunteered that to us all…when was the last time you heard a pollie tell us that they are not always spot on.  Wake up, he just told you the truth!  He simply said that you have to be careful when you listen to Pollies and discern if they are being specific or a little hyperbolic.  Let’s see if Rudd agrees with him on this shall we?  Most of you are being just plain silly, he did not admit to lying, he admitted that pollies are human and prone to exaggeration in the heat of battle.  Grow up, you all do it!  If you deny that or demand better from others then you are hypocrits!

    • Rover says:

      12:51pm | 18/05/10

      BrownDog, he only admitted it because he didn’t want to answer WHY he broke his promise made a month earlier not to introduce a new tax.

    • Edward says:

      02:57pm | 18/05/10

      Rover - that was his answer (he wasn’t evading anything).

    • Chris L says:

      07:40pm | 18/05/10

      Not always spot on eh? That’s what you call it when he says there’ll be no new tax, and then introduces a new tax. On the other hand when Rudd delays policy that is not getting through the senate (possibly a good thing if the senate is against it, meaning it should be taken down for review) he’s called a liar. I don’t like either of the big 2 but I find the Liberal side just that little bit more hypocritical.

    • iansand says:

      09:55am | 18/05/10

      So Kerry O’Brien is burning bridges.  When will he announce his retirement?  It could be an interesting ride on the way out.  We might find out what he really thinks of politicians if he is no longer reliant on their co-operation.

    • Steve Smith says:

      10:01am | 18/05/10

      WOW, and just when the Libs look liked they had a chance…

    • Ben in Canberra says:

      10:01am | 18/05/10

      It’s interesting isn’t it that Labor acolytes like Christian Real and T. Chong can so quickly comment on the honesty of someone on the other side, without being able to reflect on the blatant dishonesty of their own! Hello? Pink batts, childcare centres, the ‘greatest moral challenge’.... give me a break you morons.

    • T.Chong says:

      10:35am | 18/05/10

      Thats right Benny, this Abbott reckoning is just far too good to miss.Can hardly wait till the election, when Abbott and his cheer squad will blame everyone and everything (other than themselves, of course) for their defeat.
      The Libs should decide on his replacement now, the election is looming.

    • Martin G says:

      11:30am | 18/05/10

      “The Libs should decide on his replacement now, the election is looming.”

      Might want to worry about the Labor leadership T.Chong. I see Julia is sharpening the knives!

    • T.Chong says:

      12:41pm | 18/05/10

      Well marty, if Gillard is shapening the knives, so much the better.
      I agree with some of you , Rudd is a sad wnna- be Howard, and that is reason enough to bring Julia in.

    • Ben81 says:

      02:28pm | 18/05/10

      They wanted a sideshow and they got one, unfortunately for them the timing isn’t too bad.

      You kind of need a distraction when a government is polling worse than the opposition in their first term, heading towards an election with the economy in the red, and much of their major policies from the previous election have either been dropped, ended in an investigation (that deliberately avoids investigating rorting and admits that in the report), or barely implemented.  Oh apart from the mandatory internet filter of course, that’s still alive.

      What Tony said was stupid and i’m disappointed for sure, but at least he was referring to not being sincere about one comment on the radio, and not a rhetoric that was shouted from the rooftops at every opportunity as if the fate of the world was in our hands, and then sweeping all that under the rug when it wasn’t politically convenient any more.  I’m sure you all know what i’m referring to.

    • dancan says:

      10:01am | 18/05/10

      What a horrible election is coming up.  Leaders from both parties are as useless as each other, now it’s just a case of which one is the lesser but still pretty bad though I have to vote for one because it’s illegal for me not to of two evils.

    • Angus says:

      10:08am | 18/05/10

      typical catholic attitude to doing the wrong thing which sits wonderfully with abbot’s staunch catholic views. doesn’t matter what scumbag acts you did in your past (inclusive of lying) as long as you do a few hail mary’s all will be forgiven. mind you most of our politicans seem to have the same cavalier catholic attitude to the truth.

    • Rose says:

      12:40am | 19/05/10

      I think you’l find that Abbott is most definitely not typically Catholic. In fact, as a Catholic, every time I hear him identify himself as Catholic it breaks my heart. The man has very few, if any, truly Christian values, he only trots out the stuff that he can twist to suit his purpose. True Catholics have a deep passion for issues of social justice and would be appalled at Abbott’s complete lack of heart.

    • Dave Sag says:

      10:10am | 18/05/10

      Tony Abbott is the most Zen of politicians.  Like a photon, he exists in the perpetual present; in TonyVille there is no past (“get over it”) and there is no future, just an eternal now that security-blankets glittering horizon to horizon. There are no consequences and no regrets in TonyVille. It’s a mystical place, populated by fairies and majik tea-cups, and in a spooky action at a distance kind of way, almost admirable.

      We are a world of facts and not things, I’ll buy that, but when the facts are fluid, what is the stuff of the world?  In TonyVille there are no absolute truths, all is relative.

      Where is the sound of one politician’s hand clapping?  How many are the noodly appendages of the Flying Spaghetti Monster? What time is love? Did Jesus leave the iron on? All these questions become irrelevant in TonyLand.

    • shane says:

      10:48am | 18/05/10

      Hahaha, Great comment. Completely agree. Love the Noodly appendages line.

    • Damocles says:

      10:13am | 18/05/10

      All politicians lie.
      We’ve known that for a very, very long time.
      So don’t act surprised, people.
      Right now, I’d vote for Satan himself rather than KRudd and his gang of misfits!
      Hell can’t be much worse than what KRudd has done, and continues to do, to Australia.

    • Another Shane says:

      11:39am | 18/05/10

      Good news for you then, damocles. Tony Abbot is probably satan.

    • The Guardian says:

      10:18am | 18/05/10

      Dave Penberthy,
      “Abbott was being smashed all over Twitter tonight - not that surprising, given it has a lot of commie users.” Commie users? Dave you sound like something off of Fox News. Are you angling to become Australia’s Glenn Beck or perhaps Sean Hannerty? You have in one sentence Dave shown why News Ltd is the least credible of all media outlets in this country. As for Abbott he once again has exibited his true colours.

    • Francis says:

      10:19am | 18/05/10

      As a liberal supporter Im stunned that Abbott would admit this. We all know that pollies lie or are economical with the truth thats thier job. But in a world that is now dominated by sound bites and small one liners. Its a disaster.
      I dont believe Rudd tells the truth either but at least he is smart enough to shut up.

    • Martin G says:

      10:19am | 18/05/10

      Amazing looking at the AdelaideNow (News) site - Rudd goes on 7:30 Report and has a meltdown and the story is buried somewhere on that site, then Abbott does something similar and it’s the top story! The bias is ridiculous, but not surprising… the editorial is always reads like a love-letter to Kevvie.

      Thank God for The Australian - the only major Australian newspaper that doesn’t continually fawn over the ALP and actually reports proper news.

    • Sherekahn says:

      12:43pm | 18/05/10

      Oh boy, you should watch Media-Report on ABC TV.

    • patrick says:

      01:08pm | 18/05/10

      The Australian? Proper news? Oh sorry I get it now - you mean proper Liberal party news.
      When the news is in line with Liberal party voters’ views, it is balanced. When the news is not - it is biased commie rubbish.

      Love it -  Liberal voters have not changed a bit from the days of little Johnny. Yep we do need an election - wipe the libs/nats and family first off the map and get Julia in and lean wayyyy to the left - just to piss them off a little more. They hate social values - they think everybody should be individuals doing individual things and ignoring everybody else but blaming all social wrongs on ‘others’. Come on every body - on the next corner - lean waaayyy to the left it’s going to be a hoot.

    • Ben81 says:

      02:40pm | 18/05/10

      Yeah that’s right Partick, people are individuals.  If Australia moved further to the left (not happening, but just for the sake of the argument) they will rebel at having every facet of their life controlled by the government and everyone would be “pissed off”.

      Perhaps it’s something that should happen if only to give arts students and bludgers who think the world owes them something a wake up call.

    • Scott Maxworthy says:

      10:27am | 18/05/10

      Referred to as an “open sore” by a Senate enquiry - after 38 Government enquires into Last Resort Home Owners Warranty Rort (across both State and Federal and both sides of politics) http://www.builderscollective.org.au we could easily become a little bit cynical about any Governments ability to actually DO what’s in the best interests of you and I - the humble public.

    • shabangabang says:

      10:36am | 18/05/10

      “Abbott was being smashed all over Twitter tonight - not that surprising, given it has a lot of commie users”
      The counter argument to that is “Rudd was being smashed in the Murdoch media - not surprising, given it has a lot of fascist columnists”
      Sweeping generalisations are never a smart move, particularly if you are being paid to comment.

    • EssJay says:

      10:39am | 18/05/10

      I predicted months ago that Abbott’s big mouth would be his downfall, and last night’s interview confirms it.

      Not only is he aping John Howard by promising to bring back WorkChoices as WorkChoices 2.0, he is borrowing a leaf from John Howard’s “core” and “non-core” promises playbook.

      But is anyone really surprised that he is, by his own words, a liar? After all, he has form. ETS - he believed it, he didn’t, he believed it, he didn’t .... . Then there was his “rolled gold, iron clad commitment” on the Medicare Safety Net when he was Health Minister. That too turned out to be a great big lie. Julia Gillard is spot on when she labelled him “Phony Tony”.

      One thing I noticed about his interview last night is that he seems to be channelling the spirit of Joh Bjelke-Petersen both in speech patterns and in content. Add to this that he is the Liberal’s “Mark Latham Experiment”, and he as PM of this country is a disaster waiting to happen.

      There must be a lot of sphincter clenching amongst his colleagues this morning, thinking “My God. What have we done?”

      Delicious!

    • Martin G says:

      11:19am | 18/05/10

      Delicious??? There is nothing delicious about this, it only brings Australia closer to re-electing the most incompetent PM we have ever had.

      Wouldn’t happen to be a union hack would you, EssJay? Still bleating about WorkChoices and that nasty John Howard. Why stop there? There’s some mining execs to be bashed as well…

      For a so-called ‘progressive’ party, Labor and their union mates certainly do a lot of living in the past!

    • EssJay says:

      12:00pm | 18/05/10

      Yes Martin G, it is delicious because Abbott has exposed himself to be the liar we thought he was. No-one had to do it for him!

      And no, I don’t work for a union, I don’t belong to one and I don’t work for or belong to any political party. Anyone can see that when you take Abbott’s words last night (he’s a liar) with changing the industrial relations system by removing unfair dismissal, introducing contracts again, it smack of WorkChoices 2.0. He said it wasn’t, but he’s told us he’s a liar. So it MUST be WorkChoices 2.0.

      And you’re right about that “nasty John Howard”. Even his own party labelled him a “lying rodent” and “mean, tricky and out-of-touch”.

      No-one wants to “bash mining execs”. We just want a fair price for OUR minerals. They just don’t want to pay a fair price.

      “For a so-called ‘progressive’ party, Labor and their union mates certainly do a lot of living in the past! ” - That’s a bit rich considering that John Howard’s Liberals sought to take us back to the 1950s, and Abbott and Co want to do the same oo take us back even further!

    • Son of a Preacher Man says:

      10:40am | 18/05/10

      Thank God, could good journalism be making a come back, about bloody time, some one firing the hard questions through all the politicians spin.
      Kerry O Brien must have gone to the Mike Willesse school of Journos , then again maybe 3/4 of the rest of you should have gone there too..

    • Viewer says:

      10:50am | 18/05/10

      I think the bigger issue from the interview is how suspect Abbott is under any pressure. . . .  he was left speechless on a numebr of occassions and when he did speak it was a torrent of “um, um, I,I, ah. . great big new tax . . .um,um” . . . . .Rudd is criticised for hiding his true self but surely someone who can control their emotions is better than someone who has a stumbling,bumbling meltdown at the slighest hint of pressure ?. . . .Abbott is fine when doing soft interviews at 2GB where Alan Jones acts as a ventriloquist. . . but,um, he, he, isn’t very, ah, ah, . . . ah good, . . . .when ah, um, um he is u-u-u-under pressure

    • Craig says:

      10:58am | 18/05/10

      Commie on Twitter? Only logical then that Pagans are on Myspace and swingers on Facebook.

    • Confused says:

      11:05am | 18/05/10

      Nothing Tony Abott says under pressure can be trusted including - ‘Nothing I say under pressure can be trusted’. Now that’s real spin!

    • Groucho says:

      11:10am | 18/05/10

      Tony stole my old saying “A verbal agreement isn’t worth the paper it’s written on”. Ain’t no scoop. move on.

    • Peter of Adelaide says:

      11:10am | 18/05/10

      The interview last night between Kerry O’Brien and Tony Abbott and commentary since reveal several things.  These include that the ABC and most media are firmly in Labor’s camp. Secondly Tony Abbott is not a con man like Kevin Rudd.  Thirdly that when smooth talking Julia Gillard, Wayne Swan and Lindsay Tanner say that when the circumstances change you change your position - but are not picked up for it by most media - like Tony Abbott was and is it further confirms the view firming up in the polls that Rudd and Co and their huge $56billion of Government debt and many debacles involving many $billions are disasters Australia cannot afford.

    • Frank Drebbin says:

      11:20am | 18/05/10

      Spot on. C’mon T.Chong, Persphoney and all you ALP luvvies…....gimme three things this government has done well? Apologies, ratifying meaningless environmental agreements and delivering flowers to an overrated, overopinionated actress doesnt count (remember that little embarassment?).

    • Paul says:

      11:33am | 18/05/10

      Oh please, what is it with Libs and whinging about the Media being out to get you? Asides the academic study which showed that if anything the ABC favoured the centre right, what about talkback radio and News Ltd, particularly the Australian? These are not small players, and their partisan preferences are pretty obvious. Get over it, stop whinging, and work on policy.

    • Chewy says:

      11:59am | 18/05/10

      Paul, The ANU study that showed the ABC biased to the right was conducted by no other than Andrew Leigh 2010 ALP candidate for the federal seat of Fraser, how reassuring.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Leigh
      Frends of the ALP saying the ABC is Liberal biased is nothing short of a joke.
      To be fair Kerry O has shown alot more balance of late. He was getting out of hand last year though..

    • Mark says:

      12:22pm | 18/05/10

      Kerry has always been ALP biased. I’m a bit sceptic that he is now showing a balanced view. What I think is that 1) The is p*** off by KRudd, and he intended to bring him down; 2) Now is is bringing Abbott down; 3) Let see if he brings Gillard on stage and I will like to see how he interviews Gillard. My opinion: Bring KRudd down; Abbott down; then Gillard up!

    • Christian Real says:

      11:03pm | 18/05/10

      It is not the first time that Tony Abbott has been caught out lying on the ABC
      Abbott was caught lying on ABC’s Four Corners in 2003
      “Abbott defends himself by confusing the issue”, written by Deborah Snow, August 28, 2003.
      This story was found at :hhtp://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/08/27/1061663854618.html

    • drecked says:

      11:10am | 18/05/10

      No matter what anyone says if Crudd & Mabel get another three years this
      country is going to be in deep economic doggy doo It’s as simple as that !
      And there are no prizes for guessing who is going to pay for their stupidity
      Their name is Y’all .

    • Gary says:

      11:34am | 18/05/10

      Crudd, Mabel, doggy doo and Y’all? Shouldn’t you be doing the year 3 NAPLAN test somewhere?

    • Andrew says:

      11:14am | 18/05/10

      This to shall pass.

      Lovely to see all of the Labor supporters out pilloring Abbott and pre-gloating over an election win.

      Bit of foot in mouth from Abbott, to be sure, but interestingly he was at least (oxymoron though it seems in the circumstances of the interview) being genuine.

      All of the Labor hardliners get out and flood blogs with “he’s a nut” , “will introduce workchoices again”, “fascist dictatorship” style scare campaigns. Why do they do it if they feel so confident? If they are so certain of their own superiority why do they feel the need to attempt to discredit or tear down the opposition with every utterance?

      If they have been so good, how is it they can’t simply point to their achievements and say “see, that’s what we’ve done. This other mob are a rabble, look what we’ve achieved!”. Simple answer, because they are, and are no thoroughly recognised as being, all spin and no substance, all announcement and no achievement, all failure and no value.

      The unions are scared, already running workchoices scare campaigns (anyone will tell you it’s very difficult to win an election on the same scare campaign platform twice). The party are scared, every interview they have starts with an attack on the opposition, “they were/are/will be crap but we are great or will do better.”

      The left’s scare campaigns are wearing thin, every person I talk to is so over Krudd it ought to be frightening for Labor. That’s why when Abbott slips up as he undoubtedly did last night they jump on it like Oprah on a smoked ham. It smacks of desperation. Tell me I’m wrong but at the end of the day Labor look very rattled.

      Two final points:
      1. Oppositions don’t win elections incumbents lose them and these guys are well on the way to losing the next one.

      2. The revelation that politicians are not entirely straightforward, in my view, qualify for the old Comedy Company skit “Great Derrrrrs of History”.

    • Evan Findlay says:

      01:19pm | 18/05/10

      “All the Labor hardliners get out and flood the blogs” and all the Liberal Party hacks get out and make excuses for their bumbling fool of a leader. I don’t know what amuses me more, Abbott opening his mouth and confidently displaying what an idiot he is, or, his supporters who continually flood these blogs championing what a fool he is.

    • Who says:

      11:15am | 18/05/10

      Can I have that in writing please.

    • Cecil says:

      11:17am | 18/05/10

      I watched it last night and again on the news at breakfast. I also watched QA.. I have said from his promotion to Liberal leadership that he could not be trusted, I have no inside knowledge but I use my own common sense on things I have seen. He changes his mind way to much, he’s worse than any woman I know. No offence to women here, but the wife says “lets go out to dinner” I get showered she says “oh I have changed my mind I have nothing to wear” She has 500 or so dresses surely she can find something!!  Abbott is like that with the little policy he has. No meaness meant here but Joe needs to lose weight, he shocked me last night on QA and I like Joe and would hate to think he had a heart attack or got diabetes. Someone should gently suggest it to him.

    • bella starkey says:

      11:19am | 18/05/10

      I opened the twitter link and all that was there was this:

      jaydeem: A pack of hyenas, KRudd et al are tearing Tony Abbott apart for the crime they commit every day. Hypocrites, vile bodies, whited sepulchres.
      1 minute ago from web

    • Arthur says:

      11:22am | 18/05/10

      How an incapable a person can be!
      He has been telling layers called blunders by many for many years now.
      Mr Abbott your are a comedian who we can not trust
      The sad part it is that the person in charge of Australia now it is much better.

    • TheRealDave says:

      11:27am | 18/05/10

      LOL

      See, told you - 3 more years of Krudd Labor. Well done Tony Abbot and the Liberal Party. Kev could not have scripted it better.

    • S.L says:

      11:28am | 18/05/10

      Graham Richardson wrote a book a few years ago called ‘Whatever it Takes’. In it he admitted to the common use of “porky pies” and was vilified from pillar to post by the conservative media. Now the same conservative media (read Alan Jones) is spruiking about how it’s refreshing to have an honest politician leading the federal Liberal Party, I nearly threw up! The conservative can never accept it when they aren’t in government.

    • Arthur George Manche' says:

      11:34am | 18/05/10

      I never watch the 7.30 Report anchored by Kerry O’Brien !! Kerry is so biased against the Liberals, if I were a Liberal politician I would REFUSE to be interviewed by Kerry. Kerry should stand for Parliament as a Labor candidate. Let us see him for what he is !!
      Like many employees of the ABC, which is the kindergarten for the Labor Party, Kerry is just another ning-nong. He thinks the world of himself !! He thinks he is smart, but in effect, he is just a clone of our present Prime Minister, Mr. Rudd. He asks a question of the person being interviewed, and NEVER give the person an opportunity to answer. Tony Jones, the anchor for the ABC news is of the same mould. On Q & A Tony consistently stops an answer by a Liberal, to raise a question from the floor, mostly on a different subject.
      Thes types of “interviewers” have only one aim, and that is to stop any comment against the government from being aired. As far as to what I read about the Abbott interview, I can only assume, that Mr. Abbott, was bamboozled, into giving an inappropriate reply, on which every body siezed upon. One thing is for sure, Rudd’s failure is on record. There has been much WRITTEN about that. Mr. Abbott, so far, may have made a few gaffes, talking about this and that, but his record has not cost the people of Australia billions of dollars mis-spent, has not created a $315billion DEBT, has not cost four lives ( insulation installers), has not broken any promises, especially those made at election time, which to me are sacrosant.
      So what is Kerry O’Brien’s beef ? He is just an ignorant man who cannot see past his nose, where Liberals are concerned. like many who criticised Abbott in this blog.
      In the past, we have had too many “me toos” after the Coalition stated it’s policies. But not this time, I hope, as the Liberals are now smart enough not to make their policies known until the election come along.
      As far as I am concerned, the 7.30 Report is just another Labor machine not worth viewing.

    • Lenny says:

      12:01pm | 18/05/10

      Kerry is the best journalist in this country. As for bias, did you see him interview Rudd last week? He calls out all politicians on their garbage. Take off the partisan blinkers and have a critique of both sides.

    • Helen says:

      01:41pm | 18/05/10

      I agree, I think Kerry is an awesome interviewer; I love to see him make mincemeat of ALL politicians, get the slimy loathsome little reptiles squirming. I hate 99.9999% of politicians and enjoy seeing them suffer. And Abbott may be “intelligent”, but he certainly isn’t clever, and he is self-centred, right wing, unconsidered dolt. I resigned from the Liberal party the day they voted him as leader. And Rudd is no better, just more sneaky; a nasty anal, hyper secretive, spin doctoring, bureaucrat typical of the Kremlin, aka the Qld public service. As someone said, can’t we have the Democrats back, please?

    • brendan says:

      11:47am | 18/05/10

      How is the gospel a reference point for truth?

    • Henry says:

      11:48am | 18/05/10

      Did anyone see Tanner last night on Q and A?  I have never seen a bloke look more spooked and rattled.  As Hockey said - Tanner was a patsy for Swan who does not have the guts to debate Hockey, and you could SEE the anger and resentment in Tanners face and voice.

      Hockey wiped the floor with him, and it is clear that in the back rooms of the ALP that is is in disarray.

    • Pete says:

      11:59am | 18/05/10

      Henry, I saw the show, but i think it must have been a different one to what you were watching.

      Tanner was great - across detail, personable, on point with answers and no mumbo jumbo. Hockey is likeable enough, but he just can’t cut it in economics. He was outpointed by Tanner at every turn.

    • Kiko1 says:

      12:04pm | 18/05/10

      Tanner is an intelligent man who had it all over the guffawing grimacing buffoon Hockey.

    • Penny H says:

      12:14pm | 18/05/10

      Haha Pete - nice try.

      Tanner is a finance illiterate like the rest of the ALP.  No professional qualifications nor business world experience.

      I work in a large accounting/business services firm and all the morning talk has been how all at sea Tanner is. Almost as bad as Swan who just doesn’t understand basic accounting concepts.

      Tax and spend and credit is all the ALP understand.

    • JJ says:

      01:04pm | 18/05/10

      Haha Henry. I watched the same show but came to a different conclusion. Tanner was articualte and impressive - he knew exactly what he was talking about and answered all the questions with aplomb. All Hockey could do was make snide remarks and noises and roll his eyes. Not a great debating tactic. Tanner won that battle easily. But the war will be harder to win given Labor’s polling results to date.

      JJ

    • Willy K says:

      02:05pm | 18/05/10

      Spot on Henry.

      Tanner just look like he didn’t want to be there.  Eyes darting, nervous, sweaty, stuttering, disheveled, tired, and grumpy.

      Was actually enjoyable watching this puffed up twit get butchered on the national stage.

      No where to hide this time eh Lindsday?  Maybe next time Labor could send someone with financial qualifications or proven business acumen.

    • Hamish says:

      02:25pm | 18/05/10

      I’m a coalition supporter, but I thought Tanner made a good fist of defending stuff he didn’t agree with, especially the mining tax which he is far too intelligent to support.

      He should be treasurer, but he’s probably in the wrong faction and Swan (who appears constantly out of his depth) is, like Rudd, from vote-early-vote-often Qld Labor. Gotta love the Labor Party.

    • Kiko1 says:

      11:58am | 18/05/10

      Well Abbott believed it when he said of Bernie Banton who “just because he is sick that doesn’t mean he’s pure of heart” the brave Bernie as sick as he was infact dying, was in a wheelchair on oxygen..was trying to present a petition to Abbott regarding cheaper mediccation for his fellow sufferers…Abbott also said it was a stunt…Bernie died not long after and Abbott did appoligise…he probably didn’t mean it though because it wasn’t written down…do we want this man representing our country..no thanks

    • Jane says:

      12:24pm | 18/05/10

      “Alpha males” like TA become famous for treating people like that. They have the motto “I don’t suffer fools gladly” constantly ringing in their heads swelling it up with self-confidence but it almost always trips them over with their true arrogance/ignorance.

    • Hamish says:

      02:34pm | 18/05/10

      Are you saying what Tony Abbott said was wrong? Does being sick automatically make you pure of heart? Apparently Osama Bin Laden has chronic kidney disease - does that make what he says always right and fair? Are you just bagging someone for no reason?

    • kevin says:

      12:05pm | 18/05/10

      I watched Q & A last night as well. I thought Hockey was never on the subject of the question, and that Tanner showed Hockey up for what he is. A person who changes his view at the drop of a hat.
      The real problem is that neither one will give us cheaper or smaller Government

    • Willy K says:

      12:24pm | 18/05/10

      Hockey has qualifications and experience in finance and business, Tanner has zero.  And it shows.  As anyone one in business or accounting can see plainly - Tanner and the rest of the ALP are not qualified to run a small business let alone our economy.

      Yes let Tanner and his ilk do some social work, or push paper in the bowels of the public service, but leave finance to professionals.

      Tanner has been a left wing lawyer and Union hack.  In other words he has never ever generated his own funds.  He has simply been a parasite on others and now he is on the public purse.  The perfect pedigree for an ALP stooge.

    • Harris says:

      12:06pm | 18/05/10

      Not only is he a well known liar with a proven history of being nasty but he also makes bad decisions like paid parental leave levy on businesses and Barnaby Joyce in the Shadow Cabinet! Maybe the Libs can change their leader still because TAbbot does not fill me with confidence.

    • martin says:

      12:08pm | 18/05/10

      I’m going to vote independant but I’d rather a smarmy person who admits they are a liar than just a smarmy liar.

      Only wimps and sloths need be afraid of work choices in my opinion. And losers getting tax payer money to study the social habits of plankton in the South China Sea or some such.

    • Waah says:

      01:58pm | 18/05/10

      “I’m going to vote independant but I’d rather a smarmy person who admits they are a liar than just a smarmy liar.”
      Congrats you’re going to get both!

    • Robert S McCormick says:

      12:16pm | 18/05/10

      So Tony Abbott has done what 99.999% of Federal, State & Territory politicians, be they at the top or mere nothings on the back-benches, have done in Australia for the last 200+ years. At least he has had the honesty to admit what we all suspected! In more recent times we had Bob Hawke (ALP PM) telling us that “By 1990 no child in Australia would be living in poverty” A Great Big ALP Lie. Paul Keating (ALP PM) told us that the Recession he created was “The Recession we had to have” Another Great Big ALP Lie. John Howard (Coaltion PM) told us “Under a Coalition Government there will never, ever, be a GST” A Great Big Coalition Lie. The list is endless. What else are pre-Election Promises which are shelved or abandoned if not Great Big Lies? The Kevin Rudd/Julia Gillard Federal ALP Government has made that sort of lying into an Art form!
      Politicians, from all sides, have become so used to lying it is mandatory for anyone aspiring (what an oxymoron that is) to Serve the Country and we, poor fools that we are, believe their lies and elect them.
      Mayhap one day ALL the voters will get together in a few electorates and have the guts to simply ensure 100% of all votes are “Informal” and not elect any candidate at all. You may ask “But isn’t it illegal to make your vote informal?” In a word: No. You only have to either mark the ballot papers prior to polling day or go to a Polling Booth, have your name crossed of the Electoral Roll. If you wish you can simply scribble obscenities over the Ballot Papers, drop them in the boxes and thats it.
      That would really put the cat amongst the pigeons wouldn’t it?
      In the Polls the two major Parties have, two party preferred, 50% each if that holds until right up to and after the November election then we, just like the UK, will get a “Hung Parliament”.
      The ensuing Joint Parties Federal Government can only be good for Australia for that way we will get, admittedly out of a very, very poor selection, the best Ministers and decisions Australians could possibly hope for
      Talking of hanging may be that is what we should do with the whole lot of them!

    • Mikko says:

      12:23pm | 18/05/10

      Well golly gee whiz is it such a big shock to hear that pollies tell porkies, or is it just the shock of hearing one admit it? The only difference between Abbott and Rudd is that the PM always blames someone else when even his carefully researched and scripted statements turn out to be great big porkies. And it’s nothing new folks. Remember Hawkie’s infamous 1987 election pledge, “No Australian child will live in poverty by 2000”. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/bob-hawkes-biggest-regret/story-e6frf7l6-1111113759999

    • Conspiracist says:

      12:29pm | 18/05/10

      Hmmm? this is proof of ABC bias towards Libs. The link http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/05/18/2902394.htm
      was taking comments up until half hour ago with about 100 messages discussing Tonys’ commenters. The story is still there but the comments have been taken down.
      Don’t worry Tony, with all the help you get you WILL win the next election mate

    • Robert S McCormick says:

      01:00pm | 18/05/10

      Conspiracist you are wrong! If anything the two 7.30 Reports with Rudd and Abbott proved yet another of the lies the politicians have been putting about for years thet “The ABC is biased”. When in Government bot the ALP and Coalition have accused the ABC of being biased against them. These two programmes prove that theABC is doing exactly what they are required to do and that is treat all with impartiality. You say the story is still there but comments have been taken down. That, by some, could be interpreted as the ABC being biased against the Coalition simply because it shows Abbott up for being loose with the truth! and by others as being biased against the ALP for it portrays Abbott as being nonest! We can’t have all our own way.

    • Conspiracist says:

      01:13pm | 18/05/10

      I listen to both sides, but you cannot deny that Howard stacked the ABC Board with conservatives. We are seeing the effects now I suspect.
      Lesson for anyone playing this “hide my policy close to my chest before the election is announced”-This is why one must have a policy to talk about and divert attention from the frail human truths;)

    • conspiracist says:

      01:43pm | 18/05/10

      No I don’t think I am Howard stacked the ABC board with conserfuktards. Also, MSM like the Murdoch press is obviously out to bring the govt down. Sarah Murdoch launched Tony Abbott’s book for godsake!

    • demeter says:

      12:37pm | 18/05/10

      Finally, Abbott talks some sense.

      We never have trusted anything you say Tony, you dont even want us to trust you. Trust Kevin Rudd and the ALP at least they believe in the cause.

      Abbott just handed Rudd an election win ....

      Thanks Tony a wonderful performance…..smile

    • Mark says:

      11:25pm | 18/05/10

      It was a silly performance. Gawd you always stuff things up demeter.

      It will not have an effect on the election. Makes the haters hate more. The lovers dig their heels in.

      The undecided will shrug their shoulders and agree that politicians lie.

      Actually I am glad you think this will cost him. You are so wrong all of the time this could turn put to be a good thing

    • Randal says:

      12:40pm | 18/05/10

      Settle down Penbo, Abbott’s poor response to this question will have no more impact than Rudd’s implosion the previous week, we are still some 5 months out from any election and this interview, along with Rudd’s will soon be part of ancient history once the campaign hits full swing.

      In fact what Abbott was attempting to articulate, admittedly rather poorly, is that during an interview when discussing fluid policies that are in the process of being formulated, that there is a potential for some conflict between policies before all the details are finalised.

      For instance you may see the need to address the participation rates in the Australian workforce and the continuing issues we face as a nation with our aging population, and see as a solution a paid maternity scheme that encourages birth rates and allows mothers and in some cases fathers to exit and enter the workforce in a way that is beneficial for them and the Australian economy.

      You then find yourself wanting to announce this as a policy but find a government in power who has blown the budget and wasted the nations funds on rorted and failed programs - leaving a deficit of some $40 billion dollars and government net debt pushing 100 billion and rising.

      The only solution to address this issue and ensure an important plank of policy in regards to addressing aging population and participation rates is implemented in a fiscally responsible way is to fund this through a new revenue source - thereby breaking a previous pledge on no new taxes.

      So you make the tough decision, something the government has failed to do on anything of substance, and look at a short term tax to fund an important policy, target that tax at only those that can afford it, and institute a tax, that once introduced will be gone as soon as the budget is back in the black.

      This is sensible politics and shows the honesty of the Opposition leader in that he chooses to explain this process to the Australian people, rather than resort to the doctrine of spin, double speak and mistruth that has been at the core of the current government.

    • Brian says:

      12:44pm | 18/05/10

      Kerry and others in the media gave Rudd an armchair ride for 2 and a half years and the public has been ahead of the game and turned off Rudd. Too late Kerry the Abbott momentum is unstoppable now and his honesty in this interview is a plus. Rudd has run up a huge debt and most Australians know that there will be hard decisions taken by Abbott to fix it.

      The media thinks we public are stupid - we were on to Rudd’s fakeness long before you guys.

      Best you focus on the number crunching going on inside Labor ranks to dump Rudd next month and let the public focus on the real issues and decide that its time to stop spending borrowed money on wasteful white elephant projects.

    • Chris L says:

      07:44pm | 18/05/10

      Funny how people keep equating debt with Labor. I guess it’s not like the national debt tripled over the Howard years eh?

      Vote for neither!

    • Bruce says:

      12:45pm | 18/05/10

      Lets see if Kerry O’Brien asks the same type of question to all other politicians about honesty in politics. I would challenge Kerry O’Brien to ask all politicians the same question. There answers will be interesting. I am guessing all politicians will squirme at the thought of answering this question.

    • Pedro says:

      01:14pm | 18/05/10

      Bruce I agree. Would Kevin Rudd answer, or would he slip and spin away.

      I especially love the pious shock expressed by Lindsay Tanner, who just happens to be labors king of spin and truth manipulation. True, Tony Abbott admitting he lied is bizarre because it is not clever politically, but the breadth of hypocrisy shown by this labor government in saying ‘Abbott is a liar’ and ‘phoney’ is astonishing.

      We have never seen government break more promises in their first term in our history, or for that matter deliberately cover up the truth with such dismissive arrogance.

      Kerry O’Brien, good job last night, your next mission is to expose the labor hypocrisy on this issue - if you dare.

    • Matt says:

      01:00pm | 18/05/10

      Question for Rudd:

      “Do you tell the Gospel truth?”

      Sorted.

    • Ben81 says:

      03:03pm | 18/05/10

      Let me give it a go.

      Rudd - “Well let me just tell you, working families deserve a fair shake of the sauce bottle.  I make no apologies for making the tough decisions, and you know what?  Sometimes my detailed programmatic specificity errs to the side of speculation rather than sincerity, but the average bloke will always know what i’m about, mate”

    • Life on Mars says:

      01:04pm | 18/05/10

      Go for it Abbott.  There isn’t one politician who would know the truth if it hit them in the face.  Politicians are are nothing more than legalised liars.

    • Life on Mars says:

      01:05pm | 18/05/10

      Go for it Abbott.  There isn’t one politician who would know the truth if it hit them in the face.  Politicians are are nothing more than legalised liars.

    • Amber says:

      01:13pm | 18/05/10

      If the ABC is helping the LIBS then Labour must REALLY be on the nose.

    • Amber says:

      01:15pm | 18/05/10

      OH..an what’s an honest politician - one who admits to lying or one who doesn’t??

    • James says:

      01:32pm | 18/05/10

      Kerry O’Brian really is a class interviewer, even if he nearly pissed himself laughing at Abbott.  He managed to get a polly to admit that he mainly talks crap, BRAVO!! No way would I let Abbott run the country after that performance and what about Joe Hockey on Q & A, Tanner was running rings around him,  it was kind of like watching a shaggy wilderbeast being brought down by an agile hunter, he was completely out classed.

    • luke09 says:

      01:40pm | 18/05/10

      Tony Abbott, should have used the Rudd tactic by saying, ‘I can’t recall’ or ‘My office was not aware’ or his famous answer about his night at Scores ‘I was too drunk to remember’.

      Tony Abbott too honest for his own good, we can’t elect an honest man for PM, labor will now win the election.

    • Crash says:

      01:41pm | 18/05/10

      Wow.  It is staggering to see the amount of people coming on here and saying ‘It’s nice that he’s been so honest, hooray Tony!’ with his admission that he constantly lies.  Maybe people should read what they’ve written before posting? 
      The election trail is chock full of pressure, does this mean that anything he says in the lead up to the election cannot be trusted?

    • Penny H says:

      01:58pm | 18/05/10

      One poor performance by Abbott does not match the 40 Billion reasons to sack Rudd.

      Thankfully the Rudd Govt is in its end days.  The most corrupt and incompetent in Australia’s history.

    • Gee Jay says:

      10:41pm | 18/05/10

      Corrupt is a very strong,word Penny…,please supply some examples..

    • Mark says:

      02:12pm | 18/05/10

      Interesting… Let Kerry brings Gillard on stage and I’m interested to see if he is asking the same sort of questions with the same sort of pressure he asked KRudd and Abbott before I would judge him still ALP biased or not (he has been one): I suspect he was bringing KRudd down as KRudd has let the ALP down. Next would be to try bring Abbott down - he has just done that. Now I like to see how he treats Gillard - the most recent ALP potential new star.

    • Penny H says:

      02:31pm | 18/05/10

      Might want to wait till the Auditor Generals Report on the BER debacle.

      Rudd will be under serious pressure to sack her which he may do to eliminate a leadership threat.

      The ALP is in tatters.

    • Michael says:

      02:18pm | 18/05/10

      We should be surprised that the “Iron Man” rings tinny?

    • Saskia says:

      02:28pm | 18/05/10

      If you guys thought that was bad you should have waited till later to see Lindsay Tanner get destroyed by Hockey.

      Note for the ALP:  try sending someone with professional finance qualifications or business experience!

      Tanner looked like he was going to cry at the start - I have rarely seen a polly look so lost, sad, and grumpy.  The ALP cannot be a happy place at the moment!  Good of Swan to front - what a wuss.

    • Brian Connor says:

      03:05pm | 18/05/10

      Tanner:

      (From Wiki) - He graduated from the University of Melbourne with Honours in Law and Bachelor of Arts, and later a Master of Arts in 1981. While still at university, he co-wrote a book on environmental politics and worked as a casual layout and design artist.

      Tanner began his career as an articled clerk and solicitor at Holding Redlich Lawyers in Melbourne. In 1985, he became an electorate assistant to Labor senator Barney Cooney. He was Assistant State Secretary of the Federated Clerks’ Union from 1987, then State Secretary from 1988 until 1993.

      Perfect experience to be Finance Minister.

    • Henry says:

      04:01pm | 18/05/10

      Well Wayne Swan has a Bachelor of Arts so yeah I guess he is well qualified to drive us deep into debt.

      The ALP…. OMG.

    • Obvious says:

      05:16pm | 18/05/10

      Funny isnt it. I watched QandA as well and I thought it was the other way round. Tanner was very articulate - he should be out there selling the mining tax - Hockey came off as a someone full of cliches and half truths and someone out of his depth - Oh well.

    • Luke says:

      05:20pm | 18/05/10

      Lindsay Tanner IS a good minister…
      Trouble is… everyone else in his party…. isn’t…

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      02:37pm | 18/05/10

      Abbott gets caught out lying, and look at all the cheap shots coming from the Liberal support base. We need an education revolution so you poor old lot can learn to spell properly. Just because you block and oppose the PM policies through the senate you seem to think that make the PM a liar…. lol go get and education, because you obviously need one. The rest of us aren’t that stupid.

    • Ben81 says:

      02:50pm | 18/05/10

      Rob, sorry mate but in general your spelling and grammar (and maturity) is terrible.  I wouldn’t normally point that out to someone, but it’s a bit rich now that you’ve started saying things like “go get and education” and bringing up the topic of spelling as if you’re some kind of expert.

      Just yesterday for example you told me “your not very educated”, and then called me a ‘dickhead’ over something you were clearly wrong about.  Do you want to be taken seriously or not?

    • cybacaT says:

      03:01pm | 18/05/10

      I hope Labor make a big deal out of this, because all the feedback I’ve seen on the web and heard on the radio is pro-Abbott.  People find it refreshing that a pollie is being honest for a change!  Some are saying it’s the most honest thing they’ve ever heard a politician saying - and I agree!

      It’s common sense.  You often may say something intending for it to be true, but circumstances might change, or you may have gotten your facts wrong at the time - and later it turns out what you said wasn’t completely true.  That applies to everyone - not just politicians and not just Tony Abbott.

      He was just stating the bleedin’ obvious, but saying something honestly that makes most politicians recoil in horror!  I should add the media are being a little precious about this one with their feigned shock.

    • facepalm says:

      03:36pm | 18/05/10

      “Abbott tried to draw a very cute distinction between those things that are said in the heat of the moment, such as on a radio interview, versus what he called “carefully prepared scripted remarks” which should be taken with more gravity.”

      Surely he has it the wrong way around?

    • Luke says:

      03:49pm | 18/05/10

      Good journalism?
      Or the route to no government… JUST journalism??

    • Ancient Mariner says:

      03:59pm | 18/05/10

      Finally a politician is open and frank and what happens? He is attacked and ridiculed. Then we whinge about politicians never answering questions. At the same time the great liar Rudd accuses every one else of doing exactly what he knows he does consistently and the Labor faithful lap it up. We have lost our ability to assess character and We truly are in trouble in this country.

    • Jack of Melbourne says:

      04:01pm | 18/05/10

      I think that Mr. Abbott has spent too much time surrounded by synchophants who keep stroking his ego and telling him that he can say what he likes and the great unwashed masses in the electorate will swallow it.
      Obviously his strong point is not that of the Boy Scouts (be prepared).
      It seems to me that any meeting he attends he feels he has to contribute something dramatic to the conversation (ie climate change is crap) then he compunds the felony by recanting 3 days later.
      I recall him him saying that any jobless young man would have his benefits stripped and then saying “Er umm well this is just my personal feeling, not coalition policy”
      In Parliament, in a display of bravdo, he challenged Mr Rudd to a debate then instead of preparing seriously, decided that personal abuse could see him across the line.
      Then the debarcle with “Red Kerry”, this is a classic, did he assume that the Red Fox would give him an easy ride?
      If Mr Abbott can be so flustered by an interviewer on the ABC, how would he handle himself in a meeting with the head of a foreign government or the best of the foreign press.

    • Frank Drebbin says:

      04:08pm | 18/05/10

      A cowboy named Bud was overseeing his herd in a remote mountainous
      pasture in New South Wales when suddenly a brand-new BMW advanced toward
      him out of a cloud of dust.
           
      The driver, a young man in a Brioni suit, Gucci shoes, RayBan
      sunglasses and YSL tie, leaned out the window and asked the cowboy, “If
      I tell you exactly how many cows and calves you have in your herd, Will
      you give me a calf?” 
                   
        Bud looks at the man, obviously a yuppie, then looks at his
      peacefully grazing herd and calmly answers, “Sure, Why not?”
      The yuppie parks his car, whips out his Dell notebook computer,
      connects it to his Cingular RAZR V3 cell phone, and surfs to a NASApage
      on the Internet, where he calls up a GPS satellite to get an exact fix
      on his location which he then feeds to another NASA satellite that scans
      the area in an ultra-high-resolution photo.
             
      The young man then opens the digital photo in Adobe Photoshop and
      exports it to an image processing facility in Hamburg , Germany .
             
      Within seconds, he receives an email on his Palm Pilot that the image
      has been processed and the data stored. He then accesses an MS-SQL
      database through an ODBC connected Excel spreadsheet with email on his
      Blackberry and, after a few minutes, receives a response. 
       
      Finally, he prints out a full-color, 150-page report on his hi-tech,
      miniaturized HP LaserJet printer, turns to the cowboy and says, “You
      have exactly 1,586 cows and calves.”     
                 
        “That’s right. Well, I guess you can take one of my calves,” says
      Bud.
             
        He watches the young man select one of the animals and looks on with
      amusement as the young man stuffs it into the trunk of his car.
                 
      Then Bud says to the young man, “Hey, if I can tell you exactly what
      your business is, will you give me back my calf?”     
           
        The young man thinks about it for a second and then says, “Okay, why
      not?”
           
        “You’re a senator in Kevin Rudd’s Labour Government”, says Bud.
           
      “Wow! That’s correct,” says the yuppie, “but how did you guess that?”
       
      “No guessing required.” answered the cowboy. “You showed up here even
      though nobody called you; you want to get paid for an answer I already
      knew, to a question I never asked. You used millions of dollars worth of
      equipment trying to show me how much smarter than me you are; and you
      don’t know a thing about how working people make a living - or about
      cows, for that matter.  This is a herd of sheep. ...
             
        Now give me back my dog.

    • Sally says:

      05:15pm | 18/05/10

      thats gold haha .......Mark Arbib probably driving a BMW from a “Friend of Labor”

    • stephen says:

      10:21pm | 18/05/10

      Deja Vu is a record by CSNY.
      It’s out of your class.

    • Scott Maxworthy says:

      09:09am | 20/05/10

      Great - LOVE IT

    • Michael says:

      04:40pm | 18/05/10

      Do not want to be too cynical with what politiicans say.  But it is the off the cuff remarks that are more likely to be the truth than the ones that are scripted.  Tony said the opposite.

    • Steve says:

      05:42pm | 18/05/10

      John Howard didn’t distinguish between ‘core’ and non-core’ promises. That quote comes from John Laws who put it to Howard in an interview.

    • RudBot says:

      05:59pm | 18/05/10

      Hmm.  Australian voters have thrown out a single term (or part single term) government on only three occasions. Two times as a bit of your turn my turn in 1913 and 1914. Then the last time in 1931.

      If Rudd loses this election, we’ll be hearing about it for decades.

      Get back to productive exportable work you lot.

    • Badger says:

      06:10pm | 18/05/10

      There is one suren way to tell if a Pollitician is lying, Watch to see if his Mouth Moves.
        It works every time for me when I go back over what they have promised later, and see the results all arround me.

          All tared with the same brush unfortunatley for us, as they say
        Better the Devil You Know, than The Devil You Don’t. !!!

        So be very careful in the upcoming Election who you vote for.

    • Lorraine says:

      06:39pm | 18/05/10

      Just when we were convinced all pollies were tarred with the same brush and given to telling porkies….. one of them decides to have an “honest moment”... is there no one we can trust anymore?

    • bruce says:

      11:43pm | 18/05/10

      How do you know he is having an honest moment? He’s already admitted you can’t believe what he says unless it is carefully scripted. If that interview was carefully scripted, he needs a new script writer! Mind you if someone is nutty enough to believe in a supernatural being, then he may well believe that what he said actually made sense.

    • Felix says:

      07:39pm | 18/05/10

      The worst thing the Liberal Party could have done was appoint Tony Abbott as their Leader. He’s the one who made a “rock solid, iron clad guarantee” on Medicare just prior to the 2004 elections and copped flack for that once the Libs got back in (again) and soon after did exactly what Tony Abbott promised they would not do. His credibilty is ZILCH. Just because he’s an attack dog and anti anything the Labor Party does or proposes to do in Govt does not make Tony Abbott a good or credibility worthy politiican. He’s the personification of what a lying, scheming politician is through and through and that’s just about all he has going for him if you can stoop so low as to call that an asset - as the Liberal Party has done in making him their Leader. At least Kerry O’Brien is able to get to the bottom of it all and get a spade to call himself a spade rather than represent himself as a shovel.

    • Henry Lawson says:

      10:40pm | 18/05/10

      It’s a bit rich being lectured by journalist’s about telling the truth. As for the feigned outrage by Labour about truth in politics they might start by telling the Australian public what the Prime Minister knew about the failed home insulation program; the one where people died and homes burnt down - I can’t wait 30 years.

    • Matt says:

      11:29am | 19/05/10

      And while we’re asking the PM questions, perhaps he could tell us about his role in shredding documents relating to the sexual abuse of an Aboriginal girl in Queensland State care.

    • John A Neve says:

      04:37pm | 19/05/10

      Matt,

      If you are really interested in that case?  You should know the answer, it’s all on the record, if memory serves me well there were three inquiries and all were made public. That’s just on twenty years ago isn’t it?

    • Sirro says:

      01:28am | 19/05/10

      So Great that all you Labor supporters are in tune with the truth and being straight forward with voters.
      Without even mentioning the Grand Master of standing for absolutely nothing(Kev o sev), have any of you got a comment about the nice blonde MILF leader of the NSW Labor party? Or dont you actually know who Kristina Kennealy is?  She (and Tripodi/Obeid) have been doing their absolute best to completely fool the NSW public about where her political affiliations lay. She has even taken to excluding any Labor party advertising on her letterheads aparently. So before anyone starts carrying on about who lies and who flip-flops, how about you guys get truthful with your own party leaders in NSW and ask them to actually stand up and make it CLEAR whom they are standing with. Or is the TRUTH that Joe and Eddie run things in NSW from Sussex street more truth than you can cope with?

    • Timmo says:

      03:27am | 19/05/10

      I think he was pointing out as he said that sometimes when we all are going off at the mouth that we can say things that aren’t absolutely correct. You know the old one of Opening your mouth and words fall out. And of course if they are scripted then in reading that scripted message then it is more in line with something more correct and too the point..

      Many people do this and all of us, if we think back about it, would at least be honest and agree with him. Kerry O’brien is always trying to get a rise and bait all pollies into making mistakes like this, and can be quite successful with it sometimes, but Kerry himself doesn’t like having it put on him. He gets very upset if anyone comes back at him, can’t handle contradiction very well himself.

      It can be true that in the heat of passionate discussion words fall out and then it is realised that a boo boo has been made what can one do but carry on. But this one obviously may well put Tony Abbott in a difficult position. I think that Kerrie may deliberately try to entrap people this way. I think they never should have gotten rid of Malcolm Turnbull. It would have been better had he have stayed right where he was. He seemed a bit more measured than Tony. Anyway, let’s see what happens next.

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