Liberal Scott Buccholz has been to seven funerals for people taken by floodwaters in his Queensland electorate of Wright, which includes the tragic town of Grantham. That’s one death for every month he has been in Parliament.

Looks like the Real Julia to us. Image: Gary Ramage.

No wonder Buccholz was in tears even before he had gone far into his speech to Parliament’s condolence motion. The emotional wear and tear would have been enormous. The big man had to take off his glasses at one stage to tend to fast-filling eyes.

Julia Gillard also teared up during the debate on the same motion, and there will be many who will claim her brief surrender to emotions was contrived.

This means they believe Gillard used one of the most solemn occasions Parliament has experienced, after one of the most disasterous summers in the nation’s history, to pull a cheap political trick.

That was unlikely to happen, and it didn’t happen. Gillard was genuinely affected. Tony Abbott didn’t think she was pretending.

The Opposition Leader said with great elegance of the Prime Minister: “Whatever political disagreements we have had, she has shown a decent heart.’‘

Abbott, too, delivered a powerful speech as the Parliament dedicated itself completely to the important job of speaking for a nation made almost inarticulate by weeks of great trauma.

Both he and Gillard referred to Jordan Rice, the youngster who told rescuers to take his younger brother first, but who wasn’t there when rescuers returned. Abbott wants him to be remembered by a heroism award and he will have little argument.

Gillard also referred to the living, such as emergency helicopter pilot Mark Kempton who in two and a half hours of hectic flying took 28 people to safety.

She said Kempton and his crew should be patting themselves on the back.

“Instead, Mark is haunted. He’s haunted by the very human face of this disaster, a woman he rescued who wept uncontrollably as she was pulled into the helicopter.

“In a media report Mark said: ‘I looked over my shoulder and saw her sitting on the floor of the aircraft and she was devastated. It was heartbreaking’.

“What Mark was witnessing was a young, pregnant mother who, just seconds before the chopper had arrived had had her young child wrenched from her weary arms by the floodwater.’‘

Gillard would deserve to be condemned—Hell, she would deserve to be impeached—if she had told that story and others to help fake an emotional response, including her tears, for political advantage.

Of course, she didn’t.

But the dislike of Julia Gillard is now entrenched in some sections of the electorate and nothing she does will be accepted, not even when she give an involuntary glimpse into her most human dimensions.

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    • TChong says:

      05:30am | 09/02/11

      Quite right Mal, even Abbott conceded that all emotions on display were genuine.
      So Mal, why did you decide ( 3rd para) to even raise the issue of doubt, at all?
      Revisit, reinforce a negative about Gillard, then pretend to be sanctimonios after raising the suggestion.
      LNP hack.

    • dovif says:

      06:50am | 09/02/11

      A little bit of emotion from Gillard, when people were DYING would have helped.

      There would not be any accusation, if she had shown some emotion back then

    • Jim says:

      08:01am | 09/02/11

      LNP hack?? Are your eyes painted-on TChong?? Have you not read Mal’s fawning pieces on Julia over the last two weeks?

      LNP hack indeed…

    • Pork says:

      08:18am | 09/02/11

      Farr is not a LNP hack.  He has been around Federal Parliament for ages.  He dislikes all politicians equally.

    • Carter says:

      08:22am | 09/02/11

      @dovif

      I work in Emergency Management and was in some areas the PM was visiting at the time. She showed plenty of emotion, but the media didn’t cover it.

      Were you there to witness her apparent lack of emotion, or are you just relying on the media and your own ingrained bias?

    • Tony of Poorakistan says:

      08:24am | 09/02/11

      Looks like the boys at Union HQ decided she needed some coaching and we have seen the results.

    • Dash says:

      08:24am | 09/02/11

      Chongy, perhaps Mal raised it because Gillard has a record of being deceitful and telling lies!

      There will be no carbon tax,
      I fully support PM Rudd,
      I have more chance of playing full forward for the Dogs,
      I was only a member of the Socalist Forum in my 20s (BS!!)
      We’ll build 260 childcare centres
      We’ll make your groceries, housing, fuel and utillities cheaper,
      Today I announce an East Timor Solution,
      We wont build any more onshore detention centres,
      We’ll build a coast guard
      We wont touch the private health tax rebate etc

      I guess when Gillard and the ALP have been shown to lie to get their way, it’s reasonable for people to act surprised when Gillard appears genuine.

    • Bernie Banter says:

      09:28am | 09/02/11

      @ching,Gillard does a pretty good job of reinforcing all the negatives all by herself,Needs more time at NIDA,no banana for yesterdays pantomime with Riley Slimy
      LOL have a nice day

    • Geoff Bundaleer says:

      09:43am | 09/02/11

      He simply was reinforcing the fact Gillard is one of the most desperate and insincere Polly’s we have ever had in this country.
      This rare display was in effort to make that point
      Take care if you believe this Lady you will end up in a socialist state run by dictators like her.

    • TChong says:

      10:22am | 09/02/11

      Punchers- read the text .
      The author uses the Francis Urquhart technique of “you may say that, but I cant “, routine.
      Why imply any insincerity ( para 3) then say that would be unfair?
      One of the oldest tricks in the business.
      F U would be proud.

    • jg says:

      10:58am | 09/02/11

      I spent four days searching for bodies in Grantham.

      I’m not an ALP stooge and think that Gillard is completely and utterly out of her depth as a PM, however tears well up in my eyes when I talk to my mates about it.

      Although I can see how people could think that it was put on given the low polls and wooden exterior of the past months, this was genuine and she should not be castigated for it.

    • dovif says:

      12:54pm | 09/02/11

      The question Australian ask is, was it the Real or Fake Julia.

      The reason we ask this was Julia told us there is a fake one.

      You cannot blame the rest of us for asking the question, when Julia told us, there is 2 of her

    • Over you! says:

      10:08am | 10/02/11

      TChong, everytime I read one of your comments you’re either on the attack or on the defence.  Perhaps you should use a more educated approach when responding to, well, anything! 

      Or, you could get a life, either one is fine..

    • Against the Man says:

      05:44am | 09/02/11

      During the actual crisis Gillard was not only unemotional but looked bored and inconvenient by the whole disaster. Last weekend almost every newspaper in the country had countless articles about this. My favourite ones were in the Sunday Telegraph. It proved my point that she is a cold, uncaring and a very selfish person. Her tears yesterday would put a crocodile to shame. She will do anything to hold on to power won’t she?

    • Joan says:

      06:53am | 09/02/11

      TV images relayed during disaster saw Gillard not only wooden but smiling, laughing and even looked like signing autographs!!! No tears in sight,  Now crocodile tears flow,, the stage type that David Williamson knows well and it looks like Gillard took his advice that he gave her on Q&A to get some acting lessons..4 Corners on Monday confirmed her to be the pargamatic power seeker,  with not one person able to find any warm, humane characterisics in ner nature-  cold and calculating it what you were left with .... so tears in parliament not to be believed as sincere.

    • Seano says:

      07:52am | 09/02/11

      Then by your “logic” Tony Abbott is either a lair or has extremely poor judgement because he said it was genuine.

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      08:03am | 09/02/11

      Joan says:06:53am; LOL those insensitive impish comments of rAbbott’s that were aired yesterday obviously cut you up so much all you have is this cheap piece of dribble (coz it isn’t even drivel, for you lib’s that don’t understand). BTW, rAbbott’s silence wasn’t him trembling with anger, he was trembling at watching the end coming to his pathetic political life.

    • undertow says:

      08:13am | 09/02/11

      And we all know TV always captures the truth. Right? Shit happens, right?

    • Joan says:

      09:27am | 09/02/11

      Seano and Rob…. got nothing to say in defence of Gillard?.... same as her Labor colleagues on 4 Corners..  As for Abbott…. its Gillard we are talking about here…. Leo and Tory cover Abbott…. you can read what I have to say there…. and that `s plenty!

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      09:59am | 09/02/11

      Joan says:09:27am; Why would I need to defend Julia against dribble and snivel. Perhaps say something of substance and I will defend. Because it all looks like clear mucus to me.

    • Sam says:

      10:05am | 09/02/11

      Undertow, your statement is true as long as you look at the micro view of the event as opposed to looking at the persons behaviour as a whole, allowing to you understanding if the one off action (tv event) is consistent and true to that persons characteristics/behaviour.

    • undertow says:

      10:17am | 09/02/11

      Joan.

      So, when the media portrays Gillard one way (i.e. smiling, laughing etc during a crisis), it is gospel, but when they portray Abbott in a not too favourable light, it is a beat-up? I think you are suffering from a bout of having one’s cake and eating too.

      As you mention in another thread “The media always in pathetic desperation to exaggerate, alarm, play the pure hearted”.  Does this rule only apply when the media is reporting the Liberal Party? Perhaps a touch myopic.

      It is obvious that it is neither Gillard nor Abbott that are the problem in either cases, but the media that present it.

    • Seano says:

      10:52am | 09/02/11

      @Joan - Well seeing as Tony Abbott said Gillard’s emotions where genuine I guess Tony and I both have something to say in defence of Gillard.

    • Deck says:

      11:19am | 09/02/11

      So we’ve got ‘Unreal Julia’, “Real Julia” and now “Actress Julia”.

      She might have a good heart but she never showed it when it mattered most - walking around with media pack in tow in her designer dress and with smile firmly in place.
      She didn’t need a focus group to tell her that she got it all crossed up and completely wrong - hell the whole nation shouted it at her.

      She saw Anna Bligh’s performance and she knew what had to be done - show some raw emotion (even if it is weeks after the actual event) and everyone will love me.

      I am sorry - but watching parliament live I was astounded when she started to choke over the story of people filling sand bags. Yesterday’s performance and so called tears were scripted and for effect to try and show a caring Julia. It was as insincere as you could make it.

      She was wooden during the disasters themselves and she is faking it now. Simple as that. The reality is that there is only one Julia - and that is not a very bright or pretty picture.

    • unsure says:

      12:50pm | 09/02/11

      Since Julia admited that there is a real Julia and a fake Julia. How do we know whether it was the real Julia or not, was the unemotional one real?

      What if it was the one brough to us by Arbib and his focus groups?

      We just don’t know?

    • Joan says:

      12:53pm | 09/02/11

      Sean .... I make my own judgements on Gillard….. I don’t need yours or Abbotts guidance on this.
      The only dribble and snivelling going on here is that coming from Rob C Charteris….. who is still scratching head,  clearing his mucus, as he can’t manage to find any positive word about Gillard.
      Undertow…. We all watched Gillards wooden and laughter filled performance through QLD disasters. My comment is in no way original. Abbotts `shit happens`  event happened months ago and Riley tries to make an issue of it at the time of another soldier`s death and media involves family members for comment turning this mans death into a circus. In the original film Abbott looks grave and sounds concerned and in no way frivilous or disrespectaful. The only person disrespectful is Riley and media… too busy creating news instead of reporting.  Meanwhile Gillard harbours young fleeing Afgahni males in overload at her Christmas Island retreat while our young men die to secure Afghanistan. Totally bizarre.

    • Seano says:

      01:46pm | 09/02/11

      Joan - you asked for someone to offer a defence of Gillard, I gues Tony Abbott wasn’t good enough for you, fair enough he’s not good enough for Australia either.

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      03:01pm | 09/02/11

      Joan says:12:53pm; I pity the lack of your originality… but coming from a conservative I shouldn’t expect much should I.

      Seano says:01:46pm; one of the basic requirements of a snivelling lib like joan is hypocrisy, it’s a fundamental ideal.

    • undertow says:

      03:18pm | 09/02/11

      Wanted to buy: One pair of “Rosie*” coloured sunglasses, as worn by Joan.
      *pun intended.

    • Against the Man says:

      05:30pm | 09/02/11

      Gillard laughing on TV as people suffer in a flood. Karma should give her a nice present…...........smile

    • Chris L says:

      07:04pm | 09/02/11

      Joan, I can’t find the footage you saw of Gillard laughing at the flood victims. Could you supply a link please? If it could include the signing of autographs that you mentioned I’d appreciate that as well.

    • D.R.Davis says:

      05:49am | 09/02/11

      Nice piece Malcolm; I am stunned reading the comments in publications that run a consistent anti-Labor line that “Gillard was faking it / Oscar-winning performance” etc etc. Come on - there is no way this was a fake - no way. If Gillard remains stoic - she’s wooden; if she shows real emotion, she’s faking it. Don’t want to pull out the gender card - but she is subjected to a vitriolic and strident level of scrutiny that simply isn’t applied to male counterparts.

    • Jack says:

      07:22am | 09/02/11

      Try again. Her behavour up to now tells us that this performance is not “normal” for her, hence the justified suspision that she has followed the political advise she would have obviously been given. Also in what part of the last line didn’t you pull out the predictable sexist anti-male card.

    • DR Davis says:

      08:05am | 09/02/11

      I’m not pulling out the anit-male sexist card - she is subject to a level of scrutinty that none of her male counterparts are subject to; the criticism is shrill and strident.Australia has never had a femail PM so its foreign territory for most pundits and politicos.

    • john says:

      08:16am | 09/02/11

      I’m not pro either party, however the PM’s speech was moving and full of humility in the face of adversity, that brought the house to tears.

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      08:33am | 09/02/11

      DR Davis says:08:05am; I think the attitude from some sections is all about being sexist. They are also the types that suckle at the breast of rAbbott. Beat their chests when any critique is levelled at the bosom that feeds them no matter how offensive the milk is. They’ll happily suckle away.

    • Tom says:

      09:01am | 09/02/11

      “He cried. No, he didn’t. She cried. No she didn’t.” ...

      Hey folks these people are paid to run our country not to perform like circus dogs for our pompous, bloated media.

      (I can’t stand the Hawker Britton thing but I liked Gillard’s non-performance at the floods because it offended the media.

      It is time our media learned to report news and not invent it.

    • KH says:

      10:14am | 09/02/11

      When a male politician cries or shows emotion, it is seen as ‘genuine’ but passing, and is no reflection on their ability to do their job.  When a female politician cries or shows emotion, it is seen as evidence that she is too emotional, and only cast aspersions on her ability to do a job - ‘proof’ that she isn’t capable of making tough decisions, or whatever.  Bizarre logic, really bizarre.

    • ILR says:

      01:33pm | 09/02/11

      “Don’t want to pull out the gender card”.  But cheerfully you did anyway.
      “she is subjected to a vitriolic and strident level of scrutiny”.  And so was little Johnny when he ran the country, whether it be by sections of the media or by the unwashed masses.
      “femail”.  Bad spelling or are you trying to be smart?
      “They are also the types that suckle at the breast of rAbbott”  Being smart again and obviously you must have missed Kerry O’Brien’s sycophantic effort when he interviewed Julia when she ascended to the deputy leader position pre Krudd 07.

    • Likes joining Dots says:

      02:49pm | 09/02/11

      @KH

      I recall Malcolm Fraser, Bob Hawke and more recently, Kevin Rudd having their mettle questioned when they cried.

      Some parliamentarians (Keating was particularly scathing - something about razor blades and statues which I choose not to post here) and newspapers ridiculed them at the time.

      Mal, Bob and Kev are male by the way.

    • jason says:

      04:30pm | 09/02/11

      show me the footage with the tears…. you people are blind… there were no tears streaming down her face nor were there any welling up in her eyes… just because she had a put on worble in her voice, and put a little shake into her hand gestures means nothing… Again Show Me The Tears. Show me the Footage of her with actual tears on her face…. YOU CAN’T.

    • Brad of Bentleigh says:

      05:50am | 09/02/11

      The truth is, Mal… that you have no idea if the tears were genuine, or a put on.

      I watched it with Mrs BofB and she thought it was contrived, I was not so sure. (Mrs BofB is a Gillard fan - or was?)
      For you to so state what she [Gillard] “felt” as fact, is in and of itself, at best, disingenuous. Hardly surprising from the single biggest apologist for the ALP I’ve ever read, and particularly one who’s ramped up the pro-Julia rhetoric to 11 in the past two weeks.

    • Jim says:

      06:31am | 09/02/11

      I’m one of those ‘entrenched’ dislikers of Gillard…but I don’t think she’s that good an actor to have faked yesterdays brief emotional bit. She hard the paralysed bottom lip thing happening which shows me she was genuine (for a minute).

    • Tom says:

      04:01pm | 09/02/11

      Jim, do you expect that a politician now has to “tear up” every time someone dies in a car accident? Or every drowning? Or prostate cancer? Are flood victims and their relatives somehow more important and tragic?

      Have you personally “teared up” for every one of those? ... Or do we let the media orchestrate our emotions?

      Forget our performing dog politicians and our vaccous “teary” media audiences. They are manipulated to the point of stupidity.

      Let’s get angry that some creepy voyeuristic media spiv comes into our lounge-room and tells us when to cry.

    • Jim says:

      05:57pm | 09/02/11

      Nothing of the sort Tom…in fact, when I wrote that after checking work emails and sinking a cup of blend 43 in the wee hours, I was prepared to go against every grain in my body to give her the benefit of the doubt…but now, not so sure.

      I think the only thing that could bring out any emotion in that cyborg is a threat from the faceless men to get yesterdays performance right or get out.

    • NicoleG says:

      08:50pm | 09/02/11

      Um Tom, so watching and hearing the story of that little boy Jordan Rice didn’t make you ‘tear up’? Well everytime I see it or hear about it, I bawl my eyes out. You have no heart whatsoever.

    • Tom says:

      01:09pm | 11/02/11

      NicoleG, did you tear up when my closest friend got prostate cancer? You miss the point, you pompous ass.

    • Ted says:

      06:32am | 09/02/11

      So we are honestly expected to believe the tearful display of the woman recorded smiling and laughing behind Anna Bligh while Anna was talking about missing and dead people. A Leopard does not change it’s spots and any reinvention of Gillard’s outward behaviour is just that, an act. Her own actions of indifference to people in the flood and her words “The Real Jullia Gillard” tells us load and clear who she is.

    • Elizabeth says:

      09:11am | 09/02/11

      You’re an absolute disgrace Ted. I watched hours and hours of flood coverage and not once did Gillard laugh when Bligh was talking about missing or dead people.
      Gillard was shown in evacuation centres and yes, she did smile as she was talking with people - she wasn’t indifferent she was listening to their stories and some may have said things that were light hearted. I heard a lot of flood survivors showing a stoic response and trying to make light of it in that Aussie way.
      People who think her reaction yesterday was fake are small minded creeps. Malcolm is right, you couldn’t tell those stories without a tear. If Tony Abbott and the Liberals can acknowledge that then all of you nasty vicious people should be ashamed.
      I thought Ian Macfarlane and Scott Buccholz as well as people like Kirsten Livermore should be congratulated. They told the stories of their communities with great dignity and heart.
      This was above politics, it’s just a shame the one-eyed nasty Punch comentators can’t put aside their partisanship for one second.

    • Ted says:

      09:53am | 09/02/11

      Elizabeth, go back to the first or second report she appeared behind Anna Bligh during those brilliant reports. As Anna Bligh started to talk about the missing and dead Gillard first started smiling, then laughed and then did her best to suppress it. The timing was terrible and she must have been thinking about something else or talking to someone. The simple fact remains that she did it and given the situation she was in, to say it was inappropriate is mild. But if you feel the need to defend her rather than see what happens around you that is your choice.
      I take it you also fail to hear the Gillard fan club media suggesting to her that she needs to show her emotions. I guess they are a disgrace as well. That’s how it works in a socialist oppressive system isn’t it?
      PS I am not the only person to have observed Gillards behaviour behind Anna Bligh.

    • Luke says:

      06:33am | 09/02/11

      OMG The PM show’s she has emotion. amazing stuff! She deserves to be PM forever.

    • preciouspress says:

      06:36am | 09/02/11

      Australians are second only to the Americans for milking every last drop of pathos from a tragedy. No better example than the contrived outpourings to mark a failed military mission nearly a century ago.
      Hardly surprising then, that the PM goes along with this national trait for over reaction but it would be good if our leaders concentrated wholly on rebuilding and left the tears (contrived or otherwise) for those who have really felt the pain.

    • persephone says:

      07:33am | 09/02/11

      I would think that someone who has been out there talking to survivors HAVE felt the pain.

      Unless, of course, they’re without empathy or something.

      For the record, I blubbed along with Julia during QT. Then I blubbed again when I heard it on the radio. Then I blubbed during the TV news.

      If you don’t break down when you think of Jordan Rice, there’s something inhuman about you.

    • Willie Winkie says:

      07:33am | 09/02/11

      I agree, leaders should give strength and hope to those they lead in tough situations. We have done enough crying with those that we can pour our hearts to, what we want now is our leaders to convince us that we will be OK and we have a future.

    • Adam Diver says:

      08:26am | 09/02/11

      @ Persephone, you are a real pain in the a**e. Here I was emotionally unattached to the grief, trying my best to not to imagine the situation, the grief or the emotion.

      Then I read this “If you don’t break down when you think of Jordan Rice, there’s something inhuman about you.” and what do I do.

      I think of how he must of felt, how scary it would of been, how sad his brother and family are now, how proud the entire country is, how sad it is that we can not share this with him, and it is so sad and so depressing, and I have people here at work thinking I am losing it.

      If Gillard, saw that, met people, and then had to give a speech imagining the details, I would be upset if she didn’t cry. And now I am upset that Perse has made me cry, and I will carry a heavy heart for the forseeable future for people I have never met.

    • persephone says:

      08:47am | 09/02/11

      Adam

      don’t.

      Here I go again.

      My 14 year old son was the one who originally told me the story. He obviously completely identified with the situation, still does. Wondered last night if his older brother would do the same for him.

    • Robert S McCormick says:

      06:47am | 09/02/11

      Just who is the “Real"Julia Gillard?
      The unfeeling, un-emotional, hard woman who swanned around Queensland - the one place we could have expected her to show a bit of genuine concern & even openly wept. Had she done that rather than coming across as the Icewoman she would have gone a long way to winning, if not the minds, the hearts of many voters.
      Or
      The weepy, emotion-filled drama-queen actress with her apparently newly washed Australian flag ( Why did she you not leave it dirty?) performing in the one place she knows she will be filmed, her every move & utterance will be reported at length in every TV News Service, every newpaper, magazine, both print & electronic.
      I freely admit I don’t like her & her performance in Queensland enhanced that dislike. Her performance in Parliament came across as staged, choreographed, scripted - call it what you will. She really does need some top-notch advisors for the ones she has are destroying her.

    • sandy c says:

      11:08am | 10/02/11

      I totally agree Robert. She is an opportunistic icewoman. Parliament is her stage, and doesn’t she know it. She is an absolute disgrace in “our house” screeching like a banshee, yelling at the opposition like a fishmongers wife, and in the meantime nothing gets done. Please name something, anything that this harridan has achieved in the name of Australia. I cannot listen to her or watch her, she makes me so angry I could kick the TV/radio, yes, I know I should control myself, but hey, the country wasn’t broken, so it didn’t need fixing.

    • Rob says:

      06:49am | 09/02/11

      Mal Farr “But the dislike of Julia Gillard is now entrenched in some sections of the electorate and nothing she does will be accepted, not even when she give an involuntary glimpse into her most human dimensions.”

      Yes it is interesting but only restricted to the liberal side of politics along with it’s rank and file have taken this position. Interesting how they complain about hows she dresses, how she looks, make opinions and assumptions of how she is feeling, has she got long ear lobes, how red hair..blah…blah…snivel…snivel…dribble…dribble… 

      Where as rAbbott can say any discusting thing he likes and if anyone takes eception of it watch them all wail and squirm to defend the insensitive little imp. The lib’s are so full of themselves they think they’re teflon but are actually showing themselves to be Bogan.

    • kate says:

      02:39pm | 09/02/11

      ummmm Budgie smugglers, mad monk, big ears, mad monk, bible basher, rAbbott ...any of that ring a bell?
      What men don’t understand is the various dress modes, make up and hair does are designed to suck people in.
      Flat hair instead of flouncy is serious.
      Scrubbed clean face is serious mode.
      Make up is glamour mode.
      A male does not have these weapons of disguise except for the botox Gillard uses to disguise the facial language.

    • Scarneck says:

      06:54am | 09/02/11

      Great…A PM that thinks she’s in Hollywood and an opposition leader without a heart. I often support Gillard, but I was cringing yesterday when listening to her on radio, I realise she is damned if she does and damned if she does not, but surely the timing was out? As for Abbott,  try and put what he said into context, one problem…you can’t, no matter how you spin it..

    • mary says:

      07:05am | 09/02/11

      I wonder when people in Australia will find enough heart to treat the prime minister as the human being she is. With emotions and failings .. just like the rest of us.

    • Barry says:

      08:11am | 09/02/11

      Probably about the same time, people do the same thing for Tony . . . . .

    • James1 says:

      09:42am | 09/02/11

      Barry,

      So never, in other words.

      I can’t help but notice that all the rusted on Labor supporters are lining up behind Gillard and against Abbott.  Likewise, most of the Liberal supporters are canning Gillard and lining up behind Abbott.  Business as usual.

    • Ted says:

      09:59am | 09/02/11

      James1, it’s the Australian way, support your team to the hilt and to hell with the damage their decisions are causing Australian. To borrow a line, SHAME, SHAME, SHAME.

    • persephone says:

      10:46am | 09/02/11

      James1

      you’re wrong actually. A couple of the rusted on Liberal supporters have actually praised Julia’s speech in this thread.

      I respect them for it.

    • Mr GG says:

      12:09pm | 09/02/11

      @barry
      and several labor supporters have claimed the Tony ‘sh!t happen’ thing is a beat up.
      Actually the amount of people turning around and getting annoyed with media beat up attacks with no apparent purpose is refreshing.

    • Likes Joining Dots says:

      03:53pm | 09/02/11

      Ted, I’m with you. The whole political ‘team’ thing is beyond me.

      No-one, especially political partys gets it right everytime. But for some reason many vote (and even post) for their team year after year, decade after decade.

      I’ve had to change guernseys so often the simpson has had a meltdown and I think it’s a more than reasonable price to pay for open discussion about politics.

    • Jade says:

      07:05am | 09/02/11

      No, I think you will find that the people pulling julia’s strings have seen the effect a little crocodile tears had on captain bligh’s popularity in Queensland and thought she should do the same, since she is starting to lag in the polls a little.

      Don’t think it will work though.

    • Jane says:

      10:00am | 09/02/11

      It did when they created the “Real Julia Gillard” catch cry.

    • Tired says:

      11:31am | 09/02/11

      So, given since the election we have seen the real Dillard, does this mean we are now seeing the cunning as a *hit house rat “New Improved and Practiced Dillard”. Guess the lessons worked afterall.

    • Denny Crane says:

      07:06am | 09/02/11

      So Gillard does not cry till parliament returns, to garner the most attention, and seeing her prime ministership in tatters.

      It all just looks weird, of course Tony Abbott will support her in what she is saying, for him to not would have caused a near riot.

      But can we trust this woman, the only way you can is to cast your mind back, and has she even been honest with us in the past, best to ask Kevin Rudd that question

    • rod sexton says:

      07:06am | 09/02/11

      Joolya’s show and tell in Parliament - who said she couldn’t act?

    • Kim says:

      07:53am | 09/02/11

      Have some respect.. Not just for the PM, but the thousands of those who lost everything.. Did you personally see the devastation? Or hear the stories first hand from those who lost loved ones? This comment just shows how much of human you are. I hope when you speak at a loved one’s funeral and shed a tear someone comes up to you and sarcastically says great acting..

    • Tom says:

      09:11am | 09/02/11

      @Kim don’t try to tie the two together. A PMs media “performance” is not the same as the tragedies in the floods. Shame on you for making such an opportunistic grab at the moral high ground. Have some respect, yourself.

      I would rather politicians do their job properly to repair the damage and protect us rather than than joining in some hippie, kumbaya, media orchestrated, bimbo cry-a-thon. I suggest you watch “days of our lives” if you want that.

    • David says:

      07:09am | 09/02/11

      My dislike of Julia Gillard, her politics and leadership is deeper than whether she can feel and manifest emotion or not.  I’ve never accused her of not being a soft human, only of being a bad political force.

    • PeterMax says:

      07:12am | 09/02/11

      It is impossible to believe anything Julia Gillard says or does.

    • Flexo says:

      07:14am | 09/02/11

      She is a joke. Not worthy of being PM. What a cold and toxic person. Time for new leadership, Gillard’s time as PM is so over.

    • Mr GG says:

      12:13pm | 09/02/11

      yeah lets have Bob Brown as PM.
      Tony is also Cold toxic and misogynistic to boot.
      most politicians are, otherwise they would not make it up the ranks of either party.

    • Jim says:

      07:20am | 09/02/11

      During the events she was less than impressive.  Bligh managed to put a strong emotional show on that some have seen as a positive sign.  In the 2 weeks after the floods and now after the cyclone the fact that the State Government have done and are contonueing to do little other than cut programs and fund the Council clean up effort, confirms that Bligh really has no idea.

      Labor politicians aren’t real people.  and they havent been for a long time.  You cant exist in the ALP and be a real person.

    • majprity says:

      07:21am | 09/02/11

      funny, like some other posters my wife is a big Julia fan.  But she thought the display was laid on too thick and false.

    • PattyC says:

      07:22am | 09/02/11

      I was going to ask “does anyone really care?” but obviously this is a subject for INTENSE scrutiny - whether or not Julia Gillard REALLY shed a tear or got emotional.  I reckon if this is what political debate is about then we might as well chuck it in. I feel really disheartened.

    • persephone says:

      07:53am | 09/02/11

      PattyC

      I’ll let you in on a secret.

      Tony Abbott had a bad day yesterday. His supporters now it.

      Now, a lot of Abbott’s supporters are basically cultists. They don’t believe in climate change. They think taxation is evil. They think that Tony agrees with them (despite all the evidence to the contrary) and they know that there’s no one else in the Opposition ranks who would make a credible leader and who thinks the way they think Tony does.

      So they’re fighting for his political life.

      This means a fight on two fronts - hoeing into Julia on one hand, and defending Tony to the hilt on the other.

      The level of their desperation on both fronts is an indicator to how much trouble they think Tony’s in.

    • Barry says:

      08:17am | 09/02/11

      People were hoeing into Julia, before Tony’s bad day had started.  Although I think it’s probably a little bit rough to not give her the benefit of the doubt, I understand why some people may be questioning the convenience of crying just after being labelled as emotionally wooden.  That said I believe it was genuine.  That said if people are going to be naive, biased, and idiotic enough to attack Abbott for his comments yesterday, then it should be no suprise to you that people are also attacking Julia for something idiotic.

    • Jane says:

      08:18am | 09/02/11

      persephone -  for a teacher you need to watch your spelling. I don’t now if you noticed your mistake or not.

    • persephone says:

      08:49am | 09/02/11

      Jane

      I did, and was absolutely mortified!!!!

    • Jim says:

      09:00am | 09/02/11

      ...and what have you been doing these last few weeks persephone? In an increasingly screechy way…

      That’s right, hoeing into Abbott and blindly defending your overlords to the hilt!

      Oh, I’m sorry…do I need ‘evidence, links and stats’ to say that?

      Where’s your evidence that he’s fighting for his political life? Seeing as though the newspolls are fast turning against your boss!

    • Jim says:

      09:03am | 09/02/11

      @Jane…she’s a teacher??? God help our kids then! She reminds me now of my year 8/9 English teacher Mizz (not Miss) Carey…a feral hairy woman who could not keep her ideology out of the classroom, and would only accept echoes of her own opinions.

    • Ryan says:

      09:07am | 09/02/11

      @persephone: yesterday was not a bad day for Tony, yesterday was a bad day for Labor where their little channel 7 twerps were exposed for being the Labor scum they are stooping to lows we have never had to endure, using the death of one of our finest in a putrid attempt to capitalise on the one occasion in her life Gillard has managed to show any emotion to draw a negative contrast between Abbott and Gillard.
      I thought the knifing of Rudd was low, but this persephone, this is inexcusable.

    • persephone says:

      09:24am | 09/02/11

      And, on cue, Ryan and Jim prove my point.

      Expect the hysteria levels to rise to new highs.

    • hermes says:

      01:08pm | 09/02/11

      @Jim…obviously spends all her time lurking on the blogs instead of teaching anyone; what does Swanny’s wife do by the way, is *she* a teacher? Also, all my ALP friends all think the tears were too, er, coincidental with Anna Bligh’s to be genuine. As one said to me this morning, “I’d *like* to believe her, but…

    • Chris L says:

      07:08pm | 09/02/11

      Jim, if you’re going to criticise Persephone about anything maybe it shouldn’t be about her habit of supplying evidence, links and stats.

    • Graham The Great says:

      07:23am | 09/02/11

      I’m certainly no fan of joolya and her circus but perhaps on this issue she is genuine but as labor told us and we are wondering which joolya was it?  So was joolya genuine or was joolya genuine?

    • JenfromNanaGlen says:

      07:25am | 09/02/11

      Oh Malcolm so easily fooled.  She is a political opportunist and a lousy actor. Just like the bulk of her ideas and policies - all just for the media. Take the NBN, yes get rid of it and use the savings from that mismanaged scheme and fix up things needed now such as infrastructure. None of us need to put a cent towards a flood levy if she did that.  But she doesn’t ‘have the heart’ for making hard decisions.

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      08:13am | 09/02/11

      Nana Glen eh’ maybe you should stop smoking that wacky baccy you’re growing in the garden out back. It is interesting and amusing how some people label someone as an opportunist, while making and opportunistic statement…. oooh! of course you must be liberal…. notice the lil “L”

    • Opportunist says:

      11:10am | 09/02/11

      @Rob r Charteris, so calling someone an “opportunist” is an act of “opportunism”? That would make you an “opportunist”. OMG, I just called you an “opportunist” ....

      PS: “Who’s on first”? Who’s on first.

    • KH says:

      07:30am | 09/02/11

      I can understand the predicament Gillard is in - as the first woman PM, she can’t exactly stand around crying about everything, now can she.  First of all, it makes you look weak - sure, its OK in the circumstances of QLD, but as soon as that crisis is over, I have no doubt that people like you Mal, would be pointing at that and claiming she is too emotional for the job, to make hard decisions, or be taken seriously.  Secondly, to hide your real emotions sometimes you have to go the opposite extreme - it comes across as ‘hard’ but for a woman in her position, it might be necessary.  They didn’t call Margaret Thatcher the ‘iron lady’ for nothing you know - the only time she cried was when she had to leave office.

      It could also be that she just isn’t one of those stereotype women who scream about shoes and watches hideous chick TV while tottering around in ridiculous heels designed to keep you unstable.  Not all women sit around getting all teary at everything - and certainly not in public.  Some of us just aren’t given to those kinds of displays.  Many women like that are condemned as being ‘fake’ or ‘uncaring’ - I can think of numerous examples, most particulary Lindy Chamberlain and Kate McCann - they were not emotional enough so therefore they must be guilty of something.  Its a pathetic cheap shot to take, really.

      I didn’t doubt for a second that yesterday was real - to even suggest that it wasn’t, despite taking it back a minute later, is the cheapest of cheap shots.  At least she didn’t say ‘shit happens’ when speaking of a soldiers death [now that is how you do cheap].  I would rather an unemotional PM to one with terminal foot in mouth disease.

    • mickey says:

      07:31am | 09/02/11

      Farr says the tears were genuine….fixed!

    • Anthony says:

      07:31am | 09/02/11

      The point of the day was the flood victims, and victims of all natural disasters across Australia. The politicians understood that; but the media did not. A word for word printing of both speaches should be in all papers today but instead we have a purile political debate.

    • Chris says:

      11:34am | 09/02/11

      Agreed Anthony, All you party hacks, piss off and have some respect for the victims of these tragedies.  I am totally fed up with politics, and the people, polly or pollies lacky, who continually try to score points using someone elses suffering as a means to an end.

    • Tell It Like It Is says:

      07:38am | 09/02/11

      I don’t give a toss whether they were genuine tears OR contrived but anyone engaged in a memorial for these tragic deaths would be and should be moved. It doesn’t change a thing about all the unnatural damage this disastrous party has caused.  The only thing they have been able to do very competently is waste money.  And as recent disasters have so clearly demonstrated, you have to have some money set aside for such times. Very expensive ‘learning on the job’ for all of us, including retired people who, yes, once were workers too!

    • Daniel says:

      07:42am | 09/02/11

      yes the Liberals and other parts of the far right in Australia have had the daggers out for Gillard for a long time painting her as not human. Everyone is different and the media needs to remember this.

    • Grumpy says:

      07:48am | 09/02/11

      I think the saddest thing about this is raising the question if she was genuine or not. How pathetic, really. Give me a break. How many of you cried for people you dont know, theres no difference. The hypocracy is tragic.

    • Den says:

      06:28pm | 09/02/11

      when our soldiers died what happened then they died of horrific wounds and did she shed a tear not one the spoke of their death as it she was giving a speech about the NBN what BS her advises did well

    • OLD MAX says:

      07:50am | 09/02/11

      Oh Anna Bliar has taught Jooliar well. The best crocodile tears this year.
      Definately Oscar material

    • Seano says:

      07:51am | 09/02/11

      Anyone who thinks Gillard was faking needs to have their head read. Even great actors struggle to portray raw emotion well. Doing it as an amateur, one off and live would be near impossible. They also fail the logic test, why would you try and pull off a fake during parliament when you’re just not going to get away with faking? When even Abbott says it was fair dinkum, those still disagreeing and screaming “fake” must truly be morons.

      It does show you how the conservative demagoguery works, a week or so ago Gillard wasn’t emotional enough, now voice cracking with emotion whilst recounting Australian stories of loss and heroism she’s a fake. Facts never get in the way.

    • Dash says:

      08:29am | 09/02/11

      @ Seano, All Australians have been moved by these events! I’m sure she wasn’t faking.

      But that doesn’t make her a better PM. It doesn’t change the raft of lies she’s told time and time again. And the ALP remains a pack of currupt socialist morons looking to inflict what they did in NSW on the rest of Australia.

    • Seano says:

      09:14am | 09/02/11

      “All Australians have been moved by these events! I’m sure she wasn’t faking.”

      So why all the vitriol from conservatives?

      “But that doesn’t make her a better PM.”

      Neither does it make her a worse one or Abbott one worth considering at all.

      “It doesn’t change the raft of lies she’s told time and time again. And the ALP remains a pack of currupt socialist morons looking to inflict what they did in NSW on the rest of Australia. “

      Spare me the loopy right wing rhetoric, life is too short.

    • Dash says:

      01:06pm | 09/02/11

      Seano, “So why all the vitriol from conservatives?” Sounds like loopy left wing rhetoric to me!

      The ALPS record over the last three years speaks for itself Seano! Here’s a good list of broken promises (follow the first link):

      http://www.warrentruss.com/record.php

      This does show you how the ALP works (or doesn’t work as the case may be).

    • ILR says:

      01:41pm | 09/02/11

      Seano, you sad act.  You automatically assume everyone who slags off your precious Julia is a right wing neocon.  There are those of us out there that hold all political ideology, read dogma, in contempt. You obviously are yet another victim of the failed leftie ideology of “you are either with us or against us”.  Now who once said that around the time of the start of the Iraq war, v2003?

    • Seano says:

      02:35pm | 09/02/11

      @Dash - Wow propoganda to match the rhetoric and none of it on topic. Hardly surprising, you lot are sounding deperate.

      @  ILR says: ” Seano, you sad act.”

      You had to start the conversation with an insult, sorry who’s sad?

      “You automatically assume everyone who slags off your precious Julia is a right wing neocon.”

      Seems like a silly sweeping generalisation, where exactly do I do that champ?

      “There are those of us out there that hold all political ideology, read dogma, in contempt.”

      Really champ, all political ideology huh?

      “You obviously are yet another victim of the failed leftie ideology”

      Yeah ok, yet another right wing ranter pretending to be sane and sensible and failing miserably. Nothing to contribute but insults and rhetoric, a big yawn all round.

    • Dash says:

      07:42am | 10/02/11

      Seano, Propaganda??? The truth clearly hurts! Desparate? With a hung parliament and the latest polls showing the ALP behind. Dream on pal!

    • Seano says:

      04:03pm | 10/02/11

      There are plenty of similar websites attacking Tony Abbott would you consider them any more seriously? Or is only right wing propoganda valid?

    • Matt B says:

      07:52am | 09/02/11

      Regardless of your political leanings surely the benefit of the doubt must be given to the Prime Minister. As Farr suggests, fake tears would mean the PM is making light of one of the worst chain of disasters this nation has seen. Surely her political position is not so poor that she’d need to score points in such a fashion.

      It seems if JG maintains a brave face, gets on with the job at hand and avoids hijacking the positions and emotions of other leaders such as Anna Bligh she is branded as cold. Yet when allows emotions to slip she’s told she’s crying for the camera. Is this the lot of a female in our highest political office?

    • Matt B says:

      08:01am | 09/02/11

      Such barbs and speculation. Lets get this over with, perhaps the PM is in fact a terminator (though in all seriousness the opposition leader does resemble a T-1000 in appearance and temperament) incapable of emotion. Her tears were a programmed response, made possible by observing the behaviour of Anna Bligh through cross-haired, infra-red vision. Also she is a red head, and I’m frequently told they lack a soul.

    • Bren's sister. says:

      08:11am | 09/02/11

      Women see through Gillard’s falseness. We hear acquaintances comment that ALP backroom men took us for fools, over-estimating JG would attract women’s vote in soaring numbers. In truth, it was the backroom boys who helped Julia Gillard lose the election. In order to hold onto power at any cost, they picked their biggest loser since Whitlam.
      Elevating proven incompetents is a cruel thing - in politics or any other field of endeavour. Some of Gillard’s looming political fate rests with them. 
      There’s something particularly vicious about a woman who sinks the knife. The Rudd assassination blood has never stopped flowing since, and Rudd makes no effort to heal the wound. He is a constant reminder of Gillard’s shame and the poor judgment of those around her.
      It has also been noted that the all-male independants who fell for her manipulative ways insulted our wider Australian female population.They ignored Gillard’s stunning failure to collect the female vote. Clearly she received thumbs down from the section of the population most anticipated to carry her over the line, yet the independants rode roughshod over our message.  Her parliamentary performance yesterday, immediately following the 4 Corners spotlight, and fully aware of public perceptions of her split real/unreal persona, was astoundingly foolish judgment. And all complete with a stage prop.

    • persephone says:

      08:53am | 09/02/11

      Except you’re wrong.

      All the polls on this show women prefer Julia by up to 4%.

      She’s worth at least 1% on the 2PP.

    • hermes says:

      01:53pm | 09/02/11

      Well then, I don’t know which women they poll; all the women I know loathe her - who span the entire continuum from rabid Greens voters to rabid Nat voters…and I know *lots* of people. Indeed, my male friends are more inclined to “like” her than my female friends…

    • persephone says:

      02:09pm | 09/02/11

      Why is it then that she consistently outscores Abbott on Preferred PM polls (from a range of pollsters)?

      He must be really, really bad.

    • Mouse says:

      02:40pm | 09/02/11

      The gap is closing perse, and that’s pretty good considering they keep polling the same 100 people!

    • Jim says:

      02:42pm | 09/02/11

      Well persephone…as you so sanctimoniously point out from time to time…we don’t actually vote for a PM, we vote for our local members. So preferred PM is a nothing figure. Primary vote and two party preferred is where it’s at.

    • hermes says:

      03:03pm | 09/02/11

      ...that’s because Abbott is just as cr*p; I hate them both equally. They are both mediocre, and I’d be hard put to say which of them makes me cringe more…no, I disagree, Gillard’s talking down to everyone as if they are retarded 5 year olds is marginally more annoying than Abbott’s umming and ahhing; besides, he is not fat, and does triathlons and so do I, so that gives him a slight edge. However, give me Turnbull, Tanner or Bligh any day. You see, unlike you and some others on this forum, I am not partisan, or am I a party hack. I just want a leader that I can respect, not some focus group driven cyborg. And it will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever be Gillard…because she isn’t and will never be a leader.

    • Marianna says:

      10:25am | 10/02/11

      I’m a woman.

      I don’t think her tears or empathy were false.

      I also think that she’s behaved impeccably during the QLD disasters, by not upstaging Anna Bligh yet being there as a visible show of support. She also didn’t flounce around in a soaking wet shirt, dragging kindling around pretending to help the ‘clean up’. Nope. She did some constructive stuff, spoke and acted appropriately.

    • iansand says:

      08:19am | 09/02/11

      One thing that some responses to this topic demonstrates is that Mr Farr’s ultimate paragraph is correct.

    • Mouse says:

      08:34am | 09/02/11

      Awwwwww, how touching. The wooden princess has tears! Why suddenly is she all emotional? Nothing while she was there. Nothing while the papers were calling her wooden and cold recently.  Maybe being on the downward slide with Joe Voter has got her trying another tactic. Maybe the puppetmasters remembered it working for Bob Hawke. Yes, what happened in Qld is a disaster, loss of life tragic. Australia’s heart cried. But,  if she had shown some sort of softness, and being a woman has nothing to do with anything, at any time before this, maybe this discussion would never have occured.  Shame, it doesn’t quite come across as the “real” Julia yet!

    • Mayday says:

      03:52pm | 09/02/11

      Pinocchio was wooden, he lied and his nose grew…....mmmm?

    • Snowy says:

      08:36am | 09/02/11

      Rather ironic that those who were mean spirited enough to question Julia’s tears yesterday are today defending the insensitive words of their armchair hero Tones in Afghanistan, and his inadequate and embarrassing response to reporter Mark Riley. What comes round and all that..

    • Craig says:

      08:59am | 09/02/11

      I think the tears yesterday and the wooden performances out and about are further proof that she is struggling in the job, that she feels its beyond her. And it isn’t because crying is weak, far from it. Where she could show some real emotion was in the place she feels comfortable, on the floor of Parliament. There she is fine. It is the rest of the job, the constant scrutiny, the need to be ultimately responsible for all the government does that gets her.

    • Sherlock says:

      09:06am | 09/02/11

      I don’t know why we now expect our politicians to become blubbering wrecks at every opportunity. I’d prefer a bit of stoicism in my PM. Head up and let’s get what needs to be done, done. There will be time for tears afterwards.

      Gillard waited for the perfect time to shed some tears and I have no doubt they were genuine. Personally, I thought it was leadership at its finest

    • Bruce says:

      09:10am | 09/02/11

      The moment I see a politician turn on the waterworks I turn “turn off”. Politicians are trained in how to handle their emotions in crisis situations. Obviously the PM needs more training.  Anna Bligh showed compassion but did not turn on the waterworks.

    • nossy says:

      09:40am | 09/02/11

      @Bruce - yes Ms Bligh had a sob on TV too Bruce during the floods. And who can forget the old “waterworks” himelf Bob Hawke - cried like a baby at the drop of a hat yet was still PM for nearly 9 years.

    • mannersplease says:

      09:17am | 09/02/11

      this stuff is even more pathetic than that stupid ambush on Abbott yesterday.  Newsflash! I think that both Abbott and Gillard are both decent humans with feelings.  I am absolutely sick of this “hatefest” against Julia Gillard.  It is petty, uninformed and really lowest common denominator rubbish.  I do not like Tony Abbott’s politics and I am not exactly Julia Gillard’s biggest follower, but I know that PM Howard did not get this total lack of respect.  I want to se and hear more decent debate on policy, not stupid cheap shots of a personal nature.  Everyone has a different way of showing happiness, grief, anger for heaven’s sake

    • Ju-LIARs nose knows says:

      09:37am | 09/02/11

      NEVER. WASTE. A. GOOD. CRISIS.

      Right Ju-LIAR?

    • rufus says:

      09:54am | 09/02/11

      While I only heard a sound grab of Gillard’s tearful words in Parliament, and while I believe the tears were not ‘faked’, it did seem to me that she was milking the occasion - paying tribute to the bravery of rescuers and victims of the floods - for political advantage. But we’ve become used to political leaders doing that.

    • persephone says:

      10:50am | 09/02/11

      Well, to be fair, so did Abbott in his reply.

      He spent a lot of time praising all the Liberal MPs (by name, with details of their activities) who had helped out in their electorates during the flood.

      Now - as we know - there were several Labor MPs out there getting down and dirty too, but they didn’t get a mention, because Julia kept her speech apolitical.

    • Geoff Bundaleer says:

      12:32pm | 09/02/11

      Persephone
      Jullia is so full of herself that she forgot the Labour mate’s (if she has any)
      If that is Apolitical well you have the wrong definition of the word mate.
      The flag tells you all you need to know about Gillard and her left wing spin mate, what a stunt.
      If you were watching the T.V. in Qeensland you would have note that a real sincere person showed Jullia as a stone faced, uncaring, individual that she is
      Anna made her look what she realy is with out the flag hipe
      I wonder if Hawke coatched her?

    • persephone says:

      12:56pm | 09/02/11

      Geoff

      she was moving a motion of condolence as the Leader of the nation, not the leader of the Labor party.

      These speeches are meant to be non party political.

    • Marlowe says:

      10:03am | 09/02/11

      Disgusting! A prime minister who uses a national tragedy simply to get re-elected, I didn’t think labour or gilliard could sink this low.

    • mona says:

      10:39am | 09/02/11

      Maybe but only maybe it was some tears still I’m not sure about that but for me to bring the flag there was a put off

    • Ron from Albany Creek says:

      10:12am | 09/02/11

      Performance rating of Gillard? 4 out of 10.
      Pathetic really, it may have worked for Hawke, but it looked so false with Gillard!

    • Fiat Lux says:

      10:21am | 09/02/11

      Half a million more Australians voted for the Coaltion than voted Labor at the last election . I resent being ruled by an undemocratic Government and I detest it’s leader . To call Joolia wooden is to be unkind to trees . Like Anna Bligh she cries to get votes .

    • Seano says:

      11:13am | 09/02/11

      Labor won the two part prefered vote. The also gained enough seats to form government with the independents. Tony Abbott didn’t. Before calling the government undemocratic should really understand how our democracy works.

    • Mr GG says:

      12:21pm | 09/02/11

      @fiat
      but more Aussies said If we cant have greens (or what ever independent was their first choice) we would prefer Labor to Liberals
      So the majority of Australians DON’T want Abbott, it is that simple Julia didn’t get elected but people didn’t want Tony, that’s why the Greens and independents hold the balance of power, this is democracy at work when both parties fail to put up a viable PM, someone has to form a minority gov’t with 3rd parties.

    • Bert T says:

      12:35pm | 09/02/11

      @Seano,,Agreed two party preferred,,GREEN/LABOR as it should be referred to in future when Polling day comes around

    • Power behing the Throne says:

      10:50am | 09/02/11

      Where Bobby Brown at?

    • andrew says:

      01:06pm | 09/02/11

      who cares..
      Gillards proformance was that bad that I turned off the 730 report, but bob brown just makes my skin crawl.

    • Elizabeth says:

      11:12am | 09/02/11

      I don’t know if the tears where real or contrived, however, my doubting senses feel they were indeed contrived.  Gillard is a cold, hard, politically coniving woman.  If the tears and emotions were real, why didn’t we see them sooner, rather than in the stage setting of Parliament?  Why not when she was out meeting the flood and cyclone affected and hearing their very real, close and torturous personal stories ?  She had to think about those stories first did she ?  Gillard cannot be trusted.  She’s like a hypocondriac - you always wonder if the pain and feelings are real, are they exaggerated, are they there at all, or, are the symptoms being displayed to gain attention and sympathy ?

    • persephone says:

      12:10pm | 09/02/11

      Apparently, Elizabeth, she banned the journos folloiwng her into evacuation centres, because she didn’t want people’s private grief intruded on.

      For all we know, she cried buckets whilst there, but we don’t, because there isn’t footage.

      I admit this is only something I’ve heard, but it would explain why (when we know she spent some time in Queensland) we haven’t seen much footage of her with flood victims.

    • Jim says:

      05:54pm | 09/02/11

      Apparently?? Not good enough by the standards you expect from us lesser humans persephone. You need to provide ‘evidence’.

    • Amber says:

      11:16am | 09/02/11

      Democracy in Oz has come down to being FORCED to vote….. for candidates who promise everything and are not obliged to follow through with anything.  And we are so proud of our DEMOCRATIC nation.
      And where were Julia’s tears when the 4 boys were electrocuted through HER OWN DIRECT policy???????????

    • persephone says:

      12:29pm | 09/02/11

      Firstly, Amber, you don’t have to vote. You can either go and have your name ticked off or you can pay a fine. Your choice.

      Secondly, the idea is that you vote for someone who will represent YOU. That puts an obligation on you which goes beyond just voting. You should - and if you care about democracy, you would - look at the candidates who are running critically and decide who best deserves your vote.

      Even better, take it a step further - contact them personally and have a bit of a chat about who they are and what they think.

      If you haven’t been bothered to put in a little effort to make sure you’re voting for someone who will truly represent you, you have no right to whinge about the quality of the candidates.

      And no, the insulation policy was not Julia’s. She was Deputy at the time, and the policy came from another Department.

    • Louisa says:

      04:08pm | 09/02/11

      Put a sock in it persephone.

    • Bernie Banter says:

      04:35pm | 09/02/11

      Good ol perse,running out of fingers to put in the Dyke,Hilarious

    • persephone says:

      09:39pm | 09/02/11

      BB

      seriously? I make a comment which isn’t anything to do with party politics, but is about how democracy is supposed to work, and that’s your reply?

      What on earth has it to do with anything I said?

      Or do you and Louisa just see ‘persephone’ and type out an automated reply?

      If you don’t want to read what I write, don’t. If you don’t want me to post, big hint - most of my posts are replies to posts which refer to me directly.

    • Colmac says:

      11:18am | 09/02/11

      It sounded to me like she was doing a Katherine Hepburn impersonation,  She is cold, hard and calculated, did she shed tears when men. women and children were literally smashed against the rocks on Christmas island?  I don’t think so. Fake Julia has emerged once again, she is so dictated by spin, I do not believe, even Julia knows who the real Julia is, and I think that is kind of sad.

    • Cate P says:

      11:19am | 09/02/11

      Now what about a similar fairminded piece about the scurrilous Channel 7 stitch up of Tony Abbott?

    • Basil says:

      10:33am | 10/02/11

      Yeah. Cause he had the script months ahead, and the questions he was going to be asked at least two hours ahead.

      The answer was OBVIOUS - all he needed to do was put his words in their original context, and sweet. But if he did that, he’d have to admit that his claims that troops were under-resourced was incorrect, and he’d known that since that day (despite what he claimed during the election). It was one of the best snookers from a journo in years. GOLD.

    • Harquebus says:

      11:25am | 09/02/11

      Blubbering politicians are weak and embarrassing.

    • Randal says:

      11:40am | 09/02/11

      I guess that Australian flag, on cue with her tears just magically appeared did it Mal - It was a stunt and that is clear.

      Her handlers saw the wooden comments from the latest focus groups and scripted her and emotional speech, and she delivered, not from the heart but from the script and then we heard the voice crack and the crocodile tears begin.

      Shameless, and a further indictment on a leader and a party who will cross any line to keep power.

    • tommy says:

      12:17pm | 09/02/11

      would you have preferred julia to say ” shit happens” randal?

    • Randal says:

      02:02pm | 09/02/11

      Hey Tommy, tell me was that the ‘real Julia’ yesterday or the ‘teary Julia… I now it has been ‘wooden Julia’ for a couple of weeks. She just has so many personas that I just can’t keep up!

    • Adele Copp says:

      11:58am | 09/02/11

      Such a staged performance! and not even a good one! Obviously the minders have told her she must show more emotion and then written the speech for her! .... “weary arms”  ... what an unlikely phrase to use if it wasn’t scripted!!

    • PTom says:

      12:26pm | 09/02/11

      Gillard is blamed for being wooden because she trying to project a image of control in a disaster, blamed for being to happy when trying to cherry up the victims and now she blamed for being fake because she showed emotions about for the victims who lost their lives. Ever leader has done the same thing even Howard (Port Arthur, 911,Bali,Tsunmi,) and Rudd(Vic Bushfires)

      Some people really need to have hard look at themselves.

    • Laura says:

      12:27pm | 09/02/11

      So the fact that Gillard got slammed on Four Corners the previous night for her wooden, robotic response to the floods (among other things) was just a coincidence? I don’t buy it. She’s just trying to be more like the recently-affable Anna - unsuccessfully.

    • Steve of Cornubia says:

      12:29pm | 09/02/11

      It’s been a very bad week for the Australian media, what with Abbott being set up and ambushed by a hostile Mark Riley, at the expense of dead soldier’s family, and now a debate about whether Gillard was really crying or not. Both are shameful.

      All in all, a very poor show run by a bunch of self-important types who think they can control public opinion with a stroke of their mighty pens.

    • Basil says:

      10:35am | 10/02/11

      Its not an ambush when you have the questions ahead of time. BTW, Parliament (you know, Tony’s place of employment) has “Questions without Notice”. You’d think he’d be good at answering questions with all that practice and stuff.

    • George says:

      12:32pm | 09/02/11

      Hawker-Britton told her that her public perception was wooden and cold and so they brought in a flag and set it all up.

      The most sickeningly fake display of poll-driven deceit in a lifetime of Australian politics.

      Most judges thought Rudd was the lowest ebb in authenticity in politics, Gillard has just set a new low.

      Disgusting.

    • Papertiger says:

      12:39pm | 09/02/11

      So the he said, she said train rolls on, with comments from both sides gilded with commentry on the flaws of a leader and a leader in waiting. People from the right mostly accusing Gillard of lying, without believing that Abbot could do the same. People from the left mostly supportive of Gillards comments. Can we not be big enough to realise that the media will show what it wants people to see, their special version of the truth.

      As tragic as disasters are, politics are still wrapped in rhetoric which can not be beleived. Both sides are more than capable of lying through their teeth. I beleive we all need to accept this as inevitable, and be smart enough to determine the parts of political assembly which are important and meaningful for the purpose of parliment. Greiving is for those who must, and who have been touched by an incident. Politics is a mugs game. Let’s not get too passionate about political responses to these situations, and let us direct our efforts to those who actually need it.

      Abbot

    • Aussie Born and Bred says:

      12:42pm | 09/02/11

      Anna Bligh faked a tear-up during the floods and everyone went, “Awwww, look, she’s not that bad after all.”  Joolia’s tear-up was nothing more than reprisal of Anna’a effort.  Don’t be fooled, people, and don’t ever forget the damage that Labor has done (and will continue to do) to this country!  The only tears I want to see from these women are after we, the people, have sacked them!!!

    • Harquebus says:

      02:46pm | 09/02/11

      Sooks don’t belong in politics.

    • Bobby Huge says:

      12:53pm | 09/02/11

      Gillard’s biggest problem is that no one and I mean no one wants to tap a ginga thats been bashed to smithereens by the ugly stick.  I know one bloke that might but is that fat and desperate that he’d do a dog and I’m serious.

    • the fat kid on Hey Dad says:

      01:37pm | 09/02/11

      With regards Mr B Huge’s comments, i concur…I am that fat bloke, & frankly that falls under the banner of beastiality.

      I’m all for experimenting, but fair crack of the whip!

    • Bulldust says:

      01:12pm | 09/02/11

      Faked? Oh please.

      “We the People”, eh. Yeah, sure. You speak for yourself, alone. Live with it, Princess.

    • Saskia says:

      01:49pm | 09/02/11

      Sure it was real.

      Gillard is and her minders are going to have to live with this little act.

      I wonder which insider will blab that it was set up first.

      There is no doubt it was fake.

    • Bren's sister says:

      01:30pm | 09/02/11

      Persephone says he is right and I am so wrong.

      Take a close look at the picture of Julia Gillard on Page 28 of today’s Herald Sun 9 February 2011.

      That picture reveals all. It silently speaks a thousand ($10B+) words. It should be enlarged and stuck to every billboard across Australia with the caption, “Trust me, I am really, truly crying. I am giving you the Real Julia, just look at me, look at me.”

    • Wilma J Craig says:

      01:40pm | 09/02/11

      People are saying that “we should give Julia Gillard a break for we condemn her when she appears cold-hearted & unemotional & when whe she does show some humanity, the poor woman is damned if she does or if she doesn’t” they tell us!
      I make no apology for saying this:
      I have never met her but I think she is probably really a very pleasant person with all the emotions & feelings as others - when she is away from the sewer of Australian politics.
      Julia deliberately created the confusion surrounding her personas.
      Having watched her, & other’s, performance in the Federal Parliament over the years she cast herself as a sharp-tongued, sarcastic, bitchy, hard-nosed, harridan.
      She is not alone in that for they all seem to be imbued with the same characteuristics - be they male or female.
      Who can ever forget the bile which poured from Paul Keating’s mouth? Yet it is said he is really a very cultured, sophisticated & decent man!
      Julia’s biggest mistake was that she deliberately set about the destruction of Kevin Rudd - all on the advice of the almost nameless & faceless men of the ALP.
      We had grown used to the ice-cold piece of unfeeling concrete Julia had portrayed herself as being.
      Then came her second mistake.
      She told us that “in future you will see the Real Julia”.
      That gave rise to the cartoons, the inevitable question every time she opened her mouth: “Is this the old Original Julia Gillard or the new Real Julia Gillard?”
      When she appeared in Queensland she seemed to slip back into the Original Julia mode: hard-nosed, unfeeling & unemotional to which we must add condescension & insincerity.
      Now she has appeared in the Federal Parliament, apparently this time in the New Real Julia Gillard mode. In a dramatic gesture she produced & unfurled a very crushed, but clean, Australian Flag & launched into a heart-rending display of feelings, emotions &
      nationalistic clap-trap about her feelings.
      People will start to give her a fair go when she gives them a fair go & decides, once and for all, whether or not she wants to be the old Original Julia or the new Real Julia. She has got to be consistent.
      She & her supporters cannot have it both ways & trot out one or other persona for purely politically opportunistc reasons when it suits her & them.

    • IAN WENSOR says:

      01:57pm | 09/02/11

      Those crocodile tears of Gillards were staged especially for the audience… If one were to put a completely different and less respectul interpretation on the statement Tony Abbott made but this time in reference to that performance-  .. SHIT HAPPENS !

    • alan says:

      02:25pm | 09/02/11

      it was ALL fake you could see it even though dillard,s a good actor.please please miss dillard dont try to pull the wool over my eyes,you tried that so many times before.i will never believe you,i remember Rudd the Dud,now he,s a high flying millionaire around the world ,ACTING LIKE A HIGH ROLLER ON OUR MONEY,and he cried SO DEEPLY WHEN HE WAS OUTED, poor poor ashamed BROKEN MAN,i NEVER felt sorry for him,NOR will i for DILLARD
      ITS ALL PUT ON ,LIKE A CHILD DOES WHEN IT WANTS HIS/HER OWN WAY.

    • Yasmina says:

      03:13pm | 09/02/11

      She couldn’t even cry properly.

      In Gillard & Rudd you have two of the biggest odd-balls this country has ever seen.

    • Seano says:

      04:18pm | 09/02/11

      And Tony Abbott is normal?

    • Louisa says:

      03:18pm | 09/02/11

      Any water coming from her eyes, were, in fact, just leaking botox.

    • Political Watcher says:

      03:45pm | 09/02/11

      Crocodile tears designed to soften the blow of the flood levy!!  Well done Gillard, I bet most Aussies missed the real reason behind your tears.

    • Stewart Henstock says:

      04:16pm | 09/02/11

      She’s full of shit…..
      If Bligh had rocked up to Parliament and broked down and cried, she at least would be consisten to her previous behaviour…but Gillard…give me a break…watching her bandy the flag around made me ill.
      What?
      She finally become Americanised bulging with patriotism…lol
      Fair suck of the sav…if i was to run around on Australia day waiving the flag i’d be called a racist.
      She’s just full of it…

    • Karl says:

      05:17pm | 09/02/11

      What is it with Labor leaders?  I haven’t cringed as much since I had to witness our then leader Hawke dribbling over a lecturn.
      Oh well with her questionable mandate, it’s only a temporary embarrassment we have to endure.

    • Look at me Kimmy says:

      06:05pm | 09/02/11

      Hmmm…here’s a theory.

      Last year sometime there was a story going round, allegedly by someone who went to uni with Dullard. This person claimed that Dullard’s voice and accent back then was more akin to Alexander Downer…and that she carefully practiced the monotone Kath’n'Kim drone during her time working as a union lawyer.

      The over-exaggerated drawl she displays has noticeably dropped in annoyance factor (though still very annoying) over the last year….so maybe her woodenness is a function of her trying to maintain that voice! I mean, it would be extremely hard to bung on a french accent, for example, and still use the correct intonations and facial expresions to convey what you mean…

    • JR says:

      06:20pm | 09/02/11

      I think everyone seems to miss a very important point and have been too quick to judge a book by its cover. Leaders (Generals, Captains and Heads of Government) are often relied upon to give people hope when all seems lost. Soldiers will often say that they did not shed tears on the battlefield after seeing one of their own being killed but they did break down at the funeral and aftermath. In times of tragedy, people react in different ways. If Gillard had broken down in the first instance I doubt she would have stopped crying for a whole month. Every turn and every visit produced a horror story. Witnesses have all said they saw her express emotion during her visits. But the media captured and produced only the interviews when she had composed herself. There is only so much sorrow and grief that a person can handle and sometimes it is necessary to compartmentalise the situation in order to project strength and hope. She has her flaws like everyone else but have we, as a nation, become so cynical and one-eyed so as to cast a shadow of doubt over our Prime Minister? If she was a man, would this pre-occupation over ‘tears or no tears’ exist?? I doubt it. Lets focus on the recovery and the loss of loved ones. Stop this cynicism that seeks only to destroy goodwill and sincerity.

    • Wayne says:

      06:54pm | 09/02/11

      To quote Labor “Whatever it takes” to garner votes. It looked like very poor acting and was a turn off.

    • J.R says:

      07:51pm | 09/02/11

      I was fake. I’ve seen fakers and that was it. I mean, really, come on guys, you’re all grown people, right? You CAN tell when people are lying to you by now?

      And why on earth would Abbott call her out on it? He does have a little more class than that (and it makes him look good to occasionally compliment the PM)

      Sometimes I feel as if I’m surrounded by a bunch of naive children…

    • She is gone says:

      07:59pm | 09/02/11

      yep,It will be Albenese or Smith who kick her to the kerb,Im thinking Albenese and Smith as Deputy,probably around Septemberish

    • NicoleG says:

      08:07pm | 09/02/11

      Come on people. Cut her some slack. I know every time I see little Jordan’s story on TV or in the paper, I’m in tears. And the poor woman who had her baby ripped out of her arms, it’s heartbreaking. Everyone shows emotions differently and I think so many of you are just far too hard on her. She was genuinely upset. Jesus, she’s a person with feelings too. Like her or not, don’t be so cruel.

    • Don says:

      09:08pm | 09/02/11

      You know you’ve made it when you can fake sincerity….congrats Julia…and just to take the heat off her less than impressive acting let’s concoct a shame outcry over Abbot’s frank assessment of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Wonder how much labor paid for that little snafu. If I was Tony, the reporter would have had the microphone jammed either down his throat or right up he’s asking for it. Quite sincerely !!

    • Interested says:

      12:01am | 10/02/11

      Rob r Charteris says:08:33am | 09/02/11   Does this mean that you “Suckle at the breast of Gillard. Beat your chest when any critique is levelled at the bosom that feeds you no matter how offensive the milk is. You will happily suckle away.  I feel sorry for you.

    • cam says:

      02:14am | 10/02/11

      If a person is indifferent to the problems of his fellow people, to children, to families, to older people, to the sick and disadvantaged, then there is definitely a flaw in that persons spirituality….Julia’s made me think again about her, not convinced yet about her, but on the way. I can’t say the same thing for the Labor Party in general and the NSW Labor Party will never get my vote. The word indifferent is too soft for them.

    • cynic says:

      10:14am | 10/02/11

      The fact the tears flowed in the first day of parliament but jooles showed no emotion during the many days of the floods lends one to belive it smacked of a show trial for the media. She is ambitious, hard nosed and hardened to get where she is now. Emotion is for weaker persons and jooles is not weak, ask rudd. Hre teras were real but who for?, i suspect not for the victims but her as a tool to reinvent her image. Spin is alive.

    • Toby says:

      10:30am | 10/02/11

      Amazing article Mal Farr, I think it is amazingly tricky! You’ve written an article entitled, “Tears flow like floodwater, and not a crocodile in sight” basically discussing the sincerity or lack of sincerity of Julia Gillard. Not quoting anyone’s opinion that she is not sincere, not even your own, except to quote a mystery abstract group of people in the words, “and there will be many who will claim…”

      I suggest you imply / suggest of speak of your own opinion, or quote anyone at all in your next article that would warrant justification of your headline, less it be so tricky as to not warrant reading. O I wish you were responding to your bloggers!

    • Annabella says:

      11:48am | 10/02/11

      Why are people, especially men, so fooled by a woman’s tears (or lack of them in Julia’s case)? Actresses do it all the time - it’s not hard to do.  I’ll even go so far as to admit I’ve done it myself to get out of difficult situations.  And it worked every time. Watch the video again and you won’t see a tear in sight.  As a female, I’m not one to be fooled by fake women and unfortunately, I think Julia is a fake.

    • Pete says:

      12:03pm | 10/02/11

      Unfortunately Malcolm, the Prime Minister has brought any criticism and doubt about the sincerity of her reactions on herself. When a columnist such as yourself is required to defend her it speaks not to whether she was sincere or wasn’t. It speaks to the reputation she has developed (so quickly) as someone without much credibility.

      Julia Gillard could scream the sky is falling and I’m afraid , even if it was, a great many people simply would not believe her. A politician without credibility is not a politician for much longer.

 

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