I have always been sceptical of televised people’s forums. I always assumed that the audience participants were not truly uncommitted voters and that poll results or “worm” results were not a true reflection of the event.

I'll take that as a comment, Ian… Photo: ABC

I have often felt the programs are simply propaganda designed for the question under review.  In this specific case - to implement a carbon tax.

An audience member of a recent ABC episode of Q & A confirmed my scepticism. They claimed the whole thing is staged from start to finish including the producers urging the audience to look thoughtful just in case the cameras panned in on their faces. This audience member claimed they were contacted by email for possible questions and every question was deliberately hand picked from those submitted.

I was recently invited by an online polling company to participate in a nationally televised Peoples’ Forum on the carbon tax.

The polling company was seeking people from all political persuasions who were genuinely uncommitted on carbon tax policy. I was allocated to the forum featuring Opposition Leader Tony Abbott.

Attendees keen to ask a question simply gave their name to an official and were allocated a place in a queue. There was no attempt by officials to read or screen questions and consequently the political leaders had no forewarning of questions to be asked.

Before it started I had about one hour to mingle with other attendees. All present were certainly passionate about the topic of carbon tax and held views either in favour or against. There was plenty of discussion, however, that indicated that an alternative view would be considered if either political leader could mount a convincing argument.

Both the Prime Minister and Opposition Leader answered unscripted questions, some of which were predictable. The answers given by both leaders were largely predictable including evasive non-answers to some questions. Many in the audience remarked afterwards that they felt so bombarded by information that it was difficult to digest.

While many attendees were willing to express strong views for or against carbon tax beforehand, only about 30 per cent of those present were willing to ask a question. I was seeing the “silent majority” up close and personal.

All political parties acknowledge the power of the silent majority in determining the outcome of elections and former US President Richard Nixon confirmed this when in his 1969 campaign he famously said “And so tonight – to you, the great silent majority of my fellow Americans – I ask for your support.”

I left convinced that my scepticism of this type of event was unfounded and it accurately represented a cross section of voter opinion. The exit polls indicated that some in the audience were influenced by the arguments put forward by the political leaders on the night.

A televised forum is a very public way for voters to display their passion on unpopular measures and to check the views of their elected officials. For me the Peoples’ Forum was a genuine success.

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    • DJ says:

      07:41am | 22/07/11

      You would never convince me Ian. You must be joking, Q&A is a farce. The audience is stacked with lefties who vigorously applaud anything anyone who opposes the conservative viewpoint.

    • Super D says:

      08:06am | 22/07/11

      I thought that was exactly what he was saying - that Q&A was not at all genuine and hence of little value whereas the People’s Forums (run by the evil murdoch media) were a more balanced and less controlled and hence more insightful.

    • Sarah says:

      08:14am | 22/07/11

      Wish we had a ‘like’ button - you’re spot on the mark, in my view - DJ.

    • Chewy says:

      11:06am | 22/07/11

      Everything on ‘their’ ABC is stacked to the left. Q&A is a joke throw in the odd cough, cough conservative like John Hewson or Malcolm Turnbull and its balanced.. Yeah right. The other week they titled the kid from the IPA a free marketeer for crying out loud.
      The panel is stacked to the left, the audience is stacked to the left and the host, well we all now this global warmining crusader wears his colours on his sleave.
      I will never forget the beaming look on Tony Jones and Red Kerry faces on the 2007 election night. Yep its ‘their’ ABC.

    • Bobster says:

      01:23pm | 22/07/11

      Just quickly, what’s so insulting about being labelled a free-marketeer?

      I would have thought that would only be insulting to a member of The Nationals.

    • Chewy says:

      01:43pm | 22/07/11

      Well I find the term ‘marketeer’ I find insinuates he is ‘selling’ something. He is being painted into corner from the get go. Would they title someone from getup a ‘left wing activist’? Hell no..

    • Ben says:

      07:57am | 22/07/11

      “This audience member claimed they were contacted by email for possible questions and every question was deliberately hand picked from those submitted”


      I think you’ll find that’s so they don’t get the same 30 questions. They want a broad range of topics.

    • Frank says:

      09:52am | 22/07/11

      exactly, if you actually watch Q and A instead of talking to audience members you will find in order to go through all the topics they do within the hour they have to make sure questions are checked.. I mean come on! Q and A is the best panel discussion show on TV and all those who say the ABC is just a advertising platform for Labor ahhh don’t forget you can’t advertise on the ABC idiots!

    • Martin says:

      10:47am | 22/07/11

      Frank, you’re an idiot to think Q&A is not a left leaning presentation.

    • TheHypocrisy says:

      10:54am | 22/07/11

      Martin, you’re an idiot to think Q&A is a left leaning presentation.

    • Martin says:

      11:08am | 22/07/11

      @TheHypocrisy. You’re name is most appropriate.  What about the lame episode with Gillard being asked Dorothy Dix’s. Or P Wong no hard questions,  nothing more than Greeny love in. What about the shoe throwing at Howard.  Yes, the Hypocrisy indeed.

    • rob says:

      02:06pm | 22/07/11

      Frank should marry Hypocrissy as they are both idiots

    • thatmosis says:

      08:13am | 22/07/11

      Stopped watching Q and A after the first episode as it was obvious that it was a Labor/Green forum stacked with Labor /Green members of the audience. This ABC is supposed to be non partisan but it is clearly an arm of the Labor/Green camp and hs been for some time.

    • BobM says:

      09:26am | 22/07/11

      Read the story. Ian says that he participated in one of the People’s Forums on the carbon tax, not on Q and A.  The picture of the tool from Q and A is misleading, and Ian said “An audience member of a recent ABC episode of Q & A confirmed my scepticism. They claimed the whole thing is staged from start to finish including the producers urging the audience to look thoughtful just in case the cameras panned in on their faces. This audience member claimed they were contacted by email for possible questions and every question was deliberately hand picked from those submitted.”

      Whereas he felt that the people picked for the People’s Forums were actually ‘undecided’.  Try reading it again, or for the first time…...

    • Martin says:

      10:50am | 22/07/11

      Read his post again BobM. All he is saying is that Q&A is a biased production. You;re point about the peoples forum is not relevant.

    • Daniel says:

      08:13am | 22/07/11

      I think QANDA is entertainment I have been on it a few times and my questions never get asked. The whole thing is very managed.

    • JohnB says:

      09:26am | 22/07/11

      That’s not how it’s presented. We didn’t know it was set up. Officially that is. You couldn’t help see the horrible bias. I’ve switched it off when Wong was on there avoiding answering anything controversial. It’s a discrace and it should be canned. How about we rerun the exact same topics, but this time have unedited questions. I bet Gillard has to do her hair that night.

      I’ve got plenty they’d struggle to answer. I’ve painfully watched QandA a few times and got to the end feeling cheated. “how could not one person in that audience not ask this, and this and this?”


      Australian politics and the surrounding deceit is disgusting. That’s why we have the very worst politicians in all tiers of government in all of the western world.

    • Martin says:

      10:54am | 22/07/11

      Gillard and Brown want to rave on about media bias? What about Q&A and the rest of the ABC episodes like “The Insiders”. All left wing junkets. When they have a Green or Labor clown on all we have is a love in. Get one of the Coalition on and out come the hard questions. LMAO

    • Joan says:

      08:27am | 22/07/11

      I once got invited by phone to assess a new bread by a marketing company. About 12 people gatheredr before,  had a chat, then samples provided and questions asked. I got paid for my time. Q &A is different cos ABC run by people who are not neutral, they attract like minded people, the questions are predictable, the twitters selected reflect ABC mindset, and the polticians answers are predictable, almost word for word to what we have heard day by day. Q &A dead boring.

    • Disraeli says:

      08:35am | 22/07/11

      You would never convince me, DJ. The audience includes cheer-squads from both sides, silly loaded gotcha questions from both sides, and a panel laced with preening partisan mike-hogs of both sides.

      And then theres the stupid crawler and the drones trying to game it.

      Sometimes - rarely -  Q&A is good for a giggle.

      Rather watch the Press Club, frankly.

      At least there you’ve a chance to see a MSM journo making a goose of themselves. And just very occasionally, the speaker/speakers.

    • Left Right in the Middle says:

      08:38am | 22/07/11

      I’m just waiting for Tony Jones to fall into the lap of the person on his left.  And when will they have a Darth Vader, a Klu Klluxer or a Sikh on Q & A - I’m tired of seeing modest women come on in their fashionable, couldn’t -miss-them veils.

    • stephen says:

      10:46am | 22/07/11

      Right on… and then you get a tweet form a twit saying things like…‘oh she, (the veiled one) is just gorgous and we should be proud she wants to live here and just listen to her words..’ as if we, all us local peasants in flannellette, gotta look bleary-eyed at wonderment in a gal wearing a tea-towel round her head and she soooo cool and we all can hold hands cause she’s gonna tell us, what is, like it is…

      ‘The superior virtue of the oppressed’
      I can’t be the only one on the planet who’s heard of that ?

    • Brian says:

      08:52am | 22/07/11

      It seems to me Ian there needs to be a review of the ABC and its reporting, to see once and for all if it is truly the biased organisation that large portions of Australia believe it to be.

    • Martin says:

      10:59am | 22/07/11

      Exactly, Brian. That won’t happen though. Gillard and Brown are attempting to bully all those journo’s with opposing views to toe the party line or else. Thankfully, from what I have heard the resounding response has been “get stuffed”, as it should be. Attempting to gag the media is a classic socialist move.

    • No 1 Rosie says:

      09:25am | 22/07/11

      You maybe convinced that Q&A is not rigged because that is what they want its audience to think.

      What you need to do is watch and listen to its host Tony Jones, he is the one that ensures we get what the ABC wants us to hear and believe. It is always mostly the lefties point of view opposing and highlighting the conservatives.

      Malcolm Turnbull is a classic example. We know how passionate Turnbull is about climate change, so is the vast majority. We also know his position on climate change within the party. However, we know that before the next elections the Coalition would have to outline their direct action plan and the people should judge for themselves. Tony Abbott and the Coalition will then know whether they have a mandate to make certain what the people want is carried out. It is a must that we clean up the environment and then make sure it is kept clean with a supply of cleaner greener energy.

      It is a good look for Tony Jones, that gotcha moment where he is the winner. ABC watches Turnbull like a hawk and will read into everything he says to disadvantage Tony Abbott and the Coalition. Once Tony Jones finds it he will push it until he knows it has gotten through to his audience. It is annoying to those of us that know what he is up to. Once is enough but Jones will do it at any opportunity.

      Turnbull’s position on climate change and his profound desires for his party to carry out his climate change policy, the one he lost the leadership for and is now 4 years out of date. Turnbull’s policy was good and should have been implemented then. What is needed is a policy which is in accordance with what is happening around the world. Read the link below and you will find that gotcha moment which I have tried to explain.

      http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-07-22/turnbull-climate-speech/2805536

    • Dee says:

      12:04pm | 22/07/11

      Tony Abbott has stop changing his mind and tell the public the truth on where he stands. Its very confusing for voters. Its not just climate change either.

    • No 1 Rosie says:

      12:27pm | 22/07/11

      Yes Dee you are correct but only after Julia Gillard gives us an election date. Nothing to worry about because the vast majority will demand that Tony Abbott tells us the truth on where he really stands. Then it will be up to you and I whether we want to believe and trust him for what he says.

      If I was Julia Gillard after reading the many jokes flying around about her I would call for elections soon. It is an embarrassment for all Australians as she is our representative. It is also a sure sign that respect and trust given to a sitting PM has been lost.

    • Billy says:

      01:25pm | 22/07/11

      “Once Tony Jones finds it he will push it until he knows it has gotten through to his audience.”

      1) Are you suggesting that Tony Jones doesn’t do this when interviewing/questioning Labor MPs or the PM.

      2) Tony holds his interview subjects to account and pull them up when they attempt to deliver a carefully crafted response that doesn’t answer the question (as we all know, politicians on both sides are notorious for this) Isn’t this what a good interviewer is supposed to do?

    • No 1 Rosie says:

      01:59pm | 22/07/11

      I know good interviewers when I see one and they are many, David Speers Sky News, the two on ABC 7.30 Report, Lyndal Fisher, Capitol Hill etc. Unlike Tony Jones, who provokes the person he is interviewing to utter the words he wants to hear so the ABC can reporting it later. In most cases the words utter is not exactly what Tony Jones thinks it is but is reported so as to undermine others and the party. In this case it is Malcolm Turnbull in which the ABC likes to constantly remind us.

      He does the same to Rudd so as to undermine Gillard and her Govt. In Rudd’s case it was OK because what Rudd said was what Tony Jones wanted to hear. Jones didn’t have to twist it around to make good TV news later. Gillard ended up copping big time the outcome of that Q&A episode.

      I used Malcolm Turnbull because I am a Liberal voter. There a lots of examples, you can do the same in support of which ever party you favour.

    • rob says:

      02:12pm | 22/07/11

      C’mon Rosie, you are really Tony Jones aren’t you…sprung..

    • JohnB says:

      09:39am | 22/07/11

      The ABC is a multi million $ advertising campaign for the Labor Party….We the taxpayer are being ripped off yet again….

      Call for an enquiry Coalition. The stench is terrible.

      Below an example of the blatant deceit.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNs3jNj-DV8

    • Richard M says:

      09:58am | 22/07/11

      I realise it’s probably pointless on this site, with the baying hounds of the right and the Abbott cheer squad in full cry, but I must point out that anyone who watches and listens to the ABC with their brain in gear would know that it does not favour either major party, and certainly not middle of the road Labour.  Its politics are far to the left of both major parties, and are what I might call fairly extreme green/left in character.  The ABC gets stuck into Labour for not being left enough just as much as it does the Coalition, perhaps even more so, because it regards Labour as traitors to the socialist green left position.  That is why, in our house, the ABC is known as the BBBC - the Bob Brown Broadcasting Corporation.  In fact, even St Bob is
      occasionally a little too pragmatic these days for the ABC!

    • Anna C says:

      10:11am | 22/07/11

      It is too much to ask for the ABC to just report the news instead of putting their PC/Leftie bias on everything including programs like Q&Q? Not everyone in Australia is a latte sipping leftie from the inner city, so why does the ABC insist on catering just to this small audience? The ABC is funded by all taxpayers regardless of their political bent; so why can’t we have an ABC which is politically impartial?

    • JohnB says:

      10:33am | 22/07/11

      It is apparently “your ABC” (I think that was the slogan)....

      BUT…The politicians hand over OUR money, and we know the old saying….Man with the gold makes the rules. It’s a discraceful lack of integrity on all their parts.

      “Socialism works until the socialists run out of other peoples’ money” ....
      M. Thatcher.

    • Richard M says:

      12:03pm | 22/07/11

      An example of ABC “balance”:  Yesterday on a Radio National program called “Bush Telegraph”, there was an item about opposition to a mining company exploring a bush area.  The main opposition group was some wilderness society which was criticising both the company, of course, and the federal Government for not doing enough to stop the company.  The wilderness society rep was in the studio for a lengthy interview.  The company and the Government were represented by written statements to which the wilderness woman was given a long opportunity to reply.  The ABC would undoubtedly claim that this was a “balanced” report, as all parties were heard!.

    • martin says:

      12:42pm | 22/07/11

      Now we have Brown and Gillard bleating the idea of changing media laws in an attempt to silence critics in the media. If it’s good enough for Brown and Gillard to have a swipe at media outlets that don’t agree with Labor policy, then why can’t the Libs when they get another shot at goverment get into the ABC and put a broom through the place. Watch all boo hoo haha from the lefty jouno’s then regarding “free speech” and “censorship”. I bet you will not hear anything on the ABC about the News corp witchunt being an attack on “free speech” presently.

    • Richard M says:

      01:43pm | 22/07/11

      Excuse my attempt to introduce some facts, Martin, but when the hell has Julia Gillard expressed the view that media laws should be changed “in an attempt to silence critics in the media”?  This is just the sort of made-up claptrap that you right-wing loonies on this site regale each other with.  She has not expressed any such view.  Indeed, she has not even expressly supported Brown’s idea of a Parliamentary inquiry into the media - notwithstanding Abbott’s customary beat-up, confected outrage on the subject.  And what, pray, is the “News Corp witch-hunt”?  A few views by St Bob hardy amounts to any witch-hunt.  Is there any possibility of getting any balanced views on this site?

    • Martin says:

      02:35pm | 22/07/11

      RichardM if you cannot see what Gillard and Brown are up to that is your problem. They are trying to tar the Australian arm of News Corp with the happenings in the UK without any evidence, for their own political advantage. Hence, it can only be seen for what it is and that is a witchunt. You rave on about facts, you give us the facts that support either Gillard’s or Brown’s position .  BTW, this site is for people to express “opinions” . Are you honestly suggesting that each poster should argue for and against in each post? And you are calling other people “loonies”? Go figure.

    • Anna C says:

      10:20am | 22/07/11

      The ABC is the ultimate ‘sheltered workshop’ for the looney left; funded by our 8 cents a day.

    • Dee says:

      10:36am | 22/07/11

      Q&A is just like News Ltd can’t be trusted.

    • nihonin says:

      11:51am | 22/07/11

      I’d ever trust Fairfax with a database either.

    • RyaN says:

      11:08am | 22/07/11

      Q&A is clearly a left wing political propaganda piece. Like this lovely fellow who was clearly selected out of the audience by Tony Jones, nice plant there Q&A, fraudsters.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNs3jNj-DV8

    • GB says:

      11:47am | 22/07/11

      JohnB posted the same link above RyaN. Agree with you 100% BTW. Gotta love the theatrics by Carlton. What a nice touch. Obviouslky that settles the issue then.Talk about stage managed.

    • Against the Man says:

      01:08pm | 22/07/11

      Very interesting. smile

      Peter Garrett quote:
      “once we get in we’ll just change it all”.

      And change they have…........but not for the better!

      The beds are burning indeed Mr Garrett and the pollution is an excuse for a carbon tax? Maybe a royalties carbon exchange program would be something to look into, yeah buddy?

    • RyaN says:

      01:31pm | 22/07/11

      @GB: whoops, I was sure it wasn’t up before I posted. I am sure there are countless other examples however I think this stage managed show should be exposed for what it is, a left wing propaganda mouthpiece.

    • DC says:

      11:29am | 22/07/11

      “The polling company was seeking people from all political persuasions who were genuinely uncommitted on carbon tax policy.”

      Oh Really?  Galaxy were the folks that selected the audience - a company that does a LOT of work for News Limited.

      I can remember the public forums last year, where one audience member was actually a Big Brother “star” who made it known when he was on TV that he was a young Liberal.  He was considering getting into politics at one stage and his father was a South Australian Liberal politician.

      That person was Joel Scalzi, and he was “selected” as one of the “genuinely uncommitted” voters that you talk about.

      It was quite clear that Galaxy’s methods of selecting “genuinely uncommitted” voters wasn’t so good.

    • Martin says:

      11:51am | 22/07/11

      Wheres the selection process at Q&A produces shoes throwers and Labor sychophants. I’ll take the polling company over the ABC thanks. The polling company needs their respondants to represent a true cross section of the community to get reliable results whereas the ABC selects on the basis of the results it wants, ie Left wing bias.

    • Bryan says:

      12:07pm | 22/07/11

      Blind Freddy can see that Q&A is partisan, biased and above all is unafraid to show it.

      The Conservative guest (being led to the slaughter) is generally surrounded by four attackers (not including the smug Tony Jones) who then proceed to make a mockery out of what viewers are expected to believe is a fair and balanced discussion. The audience and online questions are selected or framed to cause maximum damage to the lone Conservative. It really is like watching a fixed event with a pre determined outcome

      I stopped watching it (and many other ABC) shows and will not return until my taxes are used in such a way as to ensure a more even distribution of commentary and opinion.

      The ABC is clearly a pseudo sales, marketing and promotional arm of the ALP.

    • poa says:

      12:09pm | 22/07/11

      Not only do we get propaganda and bias in these forums, we even get bias and and propaganda about how people are selected, and the questions they ask.
      Just more labor Lies I’m afraid.

    • stockinbingal roo says:

      12:24pm | 22/07/11

      It’s like both sides think that the media have great influence over the way we think, in some circumstances it happens, (ie: a mate’s girlfriend who is stay at home with 4 kids, three fathers, in a housing commission house now voting Liberal), but to most of us we can make our own minds up and if the DT or ABC are biased, so what, we have the freedom to decide for ourselves.

    • Ross says:

      12:33pm | 22/07/11

      The ABC is no more bias than any other organization; I have never worked for a left wing company for instance. Is Bolt report on Ten network bias is there not a bias on Alan Jones If the ABC is left of center and I don’t believe it is to any great degree, get over it as we need to get both sides heard . If we only had right wing views we may as well be nazi Germany, see where that would get us. How would the labor party get its message out if we only had the Telegraph? Or have we got to the stage of only wanting one side of the argument so we can make up our own smaller minds.

    • Chewy says:

      01:21pm | 22/07/11

      Um err umm err the trouble is the ABC is funded by TAX PAYERS. Why should ‘we’ pay for ‘their’ ABC?
      Further Alan Jones or Andrew Bolt do not pretend to be anything other than commentators. There is difference between commentary and news you know.  A classic ABC example was Adam Spencer grilling and hanging up on climate sceptic Lord Monckton and when retorded by Monckton about bias Spencer claimed he is impartial even though he severed for five years on the NSW climate change council.
      Lies,lies and deception.
      Common give us a break this tax payer funded tool of the left would be funny if it were not so serious.
      The only balance on the ABC is Uhlmann and perhaps Leigh Sales so I guess it is getting better.

    • static says:

      01:29pm | 22/07/11

      Good words Ross

    • Todd says:

      01:38pm | 22/07/11

      Ross, I think you had best check your history a bit better.  To get to Nazi Germany we would only get Green Left wing views.  Oh wait, that IS all we get from the AlpBC

    • Steve says:

      12:53pm | 22/07/11

      I think the ABC in general and in particular Tony Jones is biased to the left but only to a fairly small degree. I think they try hard to be unbiased and there is a struggle between their leftish bias and their journalistic integrety.

      The natural left bias is born from the ABC basically being a public service organisation. Whether you are a welfare receipiant or public servant if you survive off a government cheque you tend to the left.

      It is not an evil communist conspiricy just the natural product of a public service organisation. I actually find it quite useful to listen to left leaning content just as much as right leaning content to ultimately get some sort of balance.

      It is only a problem if you are not aware of the slight bias while you are watching.

    • RyaN says:

      01:52pm | 22/07/11

      Firstly I cannot believe you used the name Tony Jones in the same sentence as “journalistic integrity”.

      See the video JohnB and I both posted above and come back and tell us you don’t believe its not an evil communist organisation.

      These people are actively promoting a partisan view through stage managed, carefully selected people plus scripted questions (sometimes even faking them in an attempted soviet style propaganda smear like the above video) and attempting to pass this off as public opinion. Fraudulent and disgusting!

    • ausspud says:

      02:25pm | 22/07/11

      Steve
      funniest thing ive read all day.
      I guess according to you the greens are slightly to the left.

    • Rubens camejo says:

      02:46pm | 22/07/11

      Often times, the lines ran by interviewees defy belief to the point where it becomes obvious to all that the host does not believe a word of the answers. In such cases, if you’re a supporter of the interviewee then you’re going to feel the host is biased against your beliefs.

      I think if you get The leader of the opposition and ask him to explain why it is that his NMN plan is better than Labor’s you’re going to get an obfuscating, very unconvincing interviewee. As it happens, that leader is often driven to make some extraordinary claim in order to support his theories or policies. He does run off at the mouth as he did when he said the 5% was crazy. I’m sure he was not in control of the message in that moment.

      The job of the host is to place the subject is such situations because people will either lie wildly or tell the whole truth when under pressure. Either way you get to know a bit more than when the interview began.

      So to say a host is biased because he puts your fellow under pressure is being precious, I’m afraid.

    • RyaN says:

      05:19pm | 22/07/11

      @Rubens camejo: explain the left wing scam artist in the audience then! Watch the video, Tony Jones already knows who he is and what he is going to ask.

    • Ross says:

      02:40pm | 22/07/11

      Todd I stand by the fact that the nazi party was a bunch of right wing thugs and Dr Bob Brown would not have stood a chance with the nazi’s as he is I believe a gay man . Not that welcome in the nazi party check your history sir.

    • Steve says:

      02:46pm | 22/07/11

      ausspud. No I think the greens are far left. If they had their own TV show it would be quite different to what we see on the ABC.

      I reiterate, the ABC is to the left but it is hardly the extreme left. I stand by calling that slightly left but “slightly” is subjective so there is a bit of wriggle room there.

      Ryan. I think Tony Jones tries hard to be balanced but invariably his leftist bias comes through to some extent. That is a far cry from a soviet propogandist. I will acknowledge that on CO2 he has laid his cards on the table for all to see and has closed his mind on the subject.

    • Dodge says:

      03:37pm | 22/07/11

      “Um err umm err the trouble is the ABC is funded by TAX PAYERS. Why should ‘we’ pay for ‘their’ ABC?”

      Because a paid service that disseminates news is invaluable to a Western democracy? I don’t know, are you a Ghadaffi or Mubarak fan?

      This is what happens to people on a diet of Rupert Murdoch’s trash. They are fed such a line of right wing talking points everything seems ‘far left’ in comparison.

      Further, this is exactly what neo-cons bang on about in the states. Please stop perpetuating this crud. Can we expect to be adding the Lord to our anthem anytime soon? Although more amusingly they discuss Faux (fox) News being an actually balanced news service while all other media outlets are ‘left wing talking pieces’. I see many correlations between faux and the daily telegraph. Line up tony jones and freakin Nigel Breene and I’ll take the guy that doesn’t look like a used car salesman thanks (hint: Jones).

      Discussing ABC as some massive left conspiracy makes folks look foolish. Especially with the likes of so many newspapers and Sky being right-wing.

    • Chewy says:

      04:41pm | 22/07/11

      @ Dodge
      I take it you are responding to me. I have no issue with tax payer funded news, only tax payer funded news that clearly has spin. See as far as I am concerned once the ABC’s charter gets ignored so should its funding requirements.
      Its that simple.
      I couldnt care less about far right fox or a clearly left Fairfax, why because they are not paid for by the taxpayer.
      A much more balanced ABC would benifit all tax payers not just rusted on Labor/Greens voters. I see much improvement on the 7.30 report now Red Kerry has gone so there is hope yet.

    • Up the Abbottohs !! says:

      04:10pm | 22/07/11

      Ok ,you win.
      From now on, I watch CSI Miami On Channel Nine at 9.30 pm 2130 Mondays instead of Q & A Channel Two! 
      Horatio( David Caruso) , the head CSI Miami cop, even poses more often and better than Tony Jones also! And Horatio can work things out better also.

    • Up the Abbottohs !! says:

      04:14pm | 22/07/11

      Make Tory Shepherd the host of Q And A !
      Then and only then would Q & A no longer be “What I call Bullshit”

    • Dieter Moeckel says:

      05:36pm | 22/07/11

      The problem is not with the ABC but with this forum - people who lean left and are (should be workers) don’t have the time on their hands to blog on Punch, hence this forum is a right gabfest of committed Liberals.
      QandA is live but certainly stage managed - it would probably be mayhem if it were truly “questions from the floor” and it would bog down into the mire just like this forum. [By the way I agree with Steve above about the inevitability of left centre bias.]
      Evidence not only from the participant in QandA but some of the questions being read by people who did not, would not, could not have written them is very apparent and of course net questions are vetted.
      Tony Jones might be a nice guy and all but he isn’t capable of controlling his panels either in timing their answers or interrupting others, this mainly from rude liberals (okay I’ve just shown my bias) and a more hardened less smiley nice guy would raise the level of debate. Jenny Brocky on SBS is better in her forums and Triole was marginally better than Tony.
      The chair should be taken by a hard-arsed Kerry O’Brien level interviewer- referee.
      I happen to think that most of the Punch bloggers are a bunch of ultra right wing Liberal love-in Abbott fawning, late rising opinionated sad sacks who abuse anyone with an alternate opinion, or belief no matter how accurate or substantial it might be.,

    • TimB says:

      06:38pm | 22/07/11

      So what. Only those with “left wing” views work?

      Do you have any idea how ridiculous that is?

    • Martin says:

      11:14am | 23/07/11

      Maybe the majority have had enough of the Labor party Dieter, and hence the majority here is representative of the majority that exists out in the community. Ultra right wing I think not,, they just had enough of the Labor politics, always in you face and in your pocket, completely incompetant and self serving.

    • RyaN says:

      01:00am | 26/07/11

      @Dieter Moeckel: “I happen to think that most of the Punch bloggers are a bunch of ultra right wing Liberal love-in Abbott fawning, late rising opinionated sad sacks who abuse anyone with an alternate opinion, or belief no matter how accurate or substantial it might be., “

      Hypocrite much?

    • Dee says:

      05:38pm | 22/07/11

      I love the ABC

    • Soames says:

      06:31pm | 22/07/11

      It’s comprised of every mild, in Australia that is, no shoe throwing yet,  form of dissident who has nothing else to do on Monday night, can’t blame ‘em, though, The Bold & the Beautiful loses it’s ‘shine’ over the past ‘weak’,  and naturally enough politicians with their political agendas, and philosophical pretenders of every social colour, on the panel. The forum of some aspiring know-alls, and people who attend just to incite others and embarass politicians, the pretend dumb-asses, and the real dumb-asses. The video movie Beresford type aspirants, and last but not least, the presenter, who has made his politics and opinions known on more than one occasion, and who, I have to give him this at least, holds his toungue when criticised. I saw the first couple of programs. Nothing will entice me to view S02E01. On a different note, it’s called Democracy, in action.

    • mick says:

      10:31pm | 22/07/11

      Lets have a fair debate about the Carbon Tax.  Instead of firing a broadside at one program maybe look at the very obvious bias against the Carbon Tax by the media in general with report after report pushing wrecking ball man Abbott who spens his time bagging everything from the Labor Party and demanding another election.
      Get real.  Expose the media for its bias and lack of balanced reporting.

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      10:54pm | 23/07/11

      Mick, maybe Abbott spends his time bagging everything from the Labor Party, as he, like a lot of Australians want REAL answers from them about Policies, not just half hearted attempts at answers or spin. Don’t like Abbott, but sick of all the bull from the PM and her cohorts, treating us with contempt etc.

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