You can’t blame Pauline Hanson for stipulating that her Brisbane home not be sold to a Muslim. Just imagine what they would get up to in there. All those lovely Heuga carpet squares covered with prayer mats, the fridge stripped of ham steaks and pineapple rings to make way for so-called “halal” tucker, the Hills Hoist replaced with a minaret, the Commodore with a WRX.

My fellow Australians..if you are watching this, it means my house has been bought by a Muslim person. Still: Channel 7

The concrete Aborigine, gone. And possibly even the installation of a complex network of underground caves from which Jihad – or “holy war” - can be launched on the people of Coleyville in the first step towards establishing an Islamic caliphate running from Caloundra to Surfers Paradise.

Hanson’s latest spray is consistent with her past efforts in that it is both unworkable and irrational.

Unworkable because it suggests that Muslims come with handy labels so that you can pick them out on auction day, or that the law could somehow be amended so the real estate agent could ask if there’s any fans of the prophet Muhammad in the crowd before taking the opening bid.

Irrational, because it so patently is. I mean, who spends time worrying about the prospect of not having to share a house with someone they don’t like?

Normally you’d just smirk and shake your head at Pauline’s latest pronouncement. Until this humdinger, her most recent foray into public life was to declare that she’s getting away from intense Islamic immigration by moving to – here’s the punchline – Britain. That of itself suggested the former leader of One Nation has drifted off into a nuttier new orbit, even by her standards.

But her latest outburst is worth a closer look, as it contains a statement which was not so much depressing but heartening about the character of Australian racism.

This might sound like an impossibly chirpy bit of glass half-full analysis. But if you look at what she said, there has been an interesting change in her mindset in a very short space of time.

Before she sunk the slipper into Aussie Muslims on the Sunrise program yesterday, Hanson was asked how she would feel if her house was bought by an Australian of Asian extraction.

“To an Australian who is of Asian background, no problems whatsoever,’’ she said.

This seemed like an uncharacteristically generous statement.

After all, this is the woman who was disendorsed by John Howard’s Liberals for making racist remarks, elected in a landslide as the independent member for Oxley at the 1996 election, and subsequently used her rabble-rousing maiden speech to build much of her brand around the fear of the Yellow Peril.

“Mr Speaker,” Ms Hanson said in her first parliamentary address. “I believe we are in danger of being swamped by Asians. Between 1984 and 1995, 40 per cent of all migrants coming into this country were of Asian origin. They have their own culture and religion, form ghettos and do not assimilate. Of course, I will be called racist but, if I can invite whom I want into my home, then I should have the right to have a say in who comes into my country.”

Perhaps Ms Hanson was right. Maybe we’ve been so successfully swamped by Asians that even the former leader of a racist, ultra-right political party isn’t just inviting them into her home – she’s gleefully urging them to buy her home.

It’s taken just over a decade for Hanson to make this shift. In the scheme of things, it is not much time at all.

And it says something about the cyclical nature of Australian racism that the woman who once advocated the complete abolition of the Asian migrant intake is now pretty laid-back about their presence here.

This will of course provide limited comfort to Australians of a Middle Eastern background or from other parts of the world which adhere to Islam.

I am not suggesting for an instant that it’s their lot in life to just ride out the prejudice that they currently enduring, as if it’s some kind of phase that the nation is going through. There’s an imperative for us non-Islamic types to check our prejudices and reflect on the presumptions we make about that diverse mass of folks of the Islamic persuasion.

Nor am I saying that Islamic Australians should wallow in self-pity and maudlin victimhood. Clearly there are some members of the Islamic communities of Australia who are having a hard time working out what is expected of them – that is, an adherence to liberal, pluralist values, respect for women and respect for law. And there’s a hope that the overwhelmingly moderate members of those communities will become more forceful in shunning those who don’t embrace our way of life.

The point is this – Hanson has unwittingly drawn attention to the fact that Australia has gone through waves of prejudice, none of which have endured. It seems laughable now that a couple of generations ago Anglo-Australians were muttering darkly about Italians and Greeks, Balts and Slavs. When Howard flirted with Asian immigration as a potential vote-winner in the late 1989s, when Hanson tried to rev it up again in 1996, there was a level of disquiet then about our Asian immigration program which seems a world away now.

In the post September 11 world, with wars continuing in Iraq and Afghanistan, it’s been inevitable that Islamic migration and settlement would become much more of a hot-button issue than it ever had before.

But our history suggests that these tensions will not be a permanent fixture in the national psyche, but something more transitory.

One of the best pieces of writing on these issues in Australia was by a young NSW National Party MP, Adrian Piccoli, who as his surname obviously suggests is of Italian parentage. The Griffith-based MP wrote a column a few years ago in the form of an open letter to Lebanese Australians about the marginalisation and abuse which Italians used to cop. He recounted how they were stereotyped as Mafiosi assassins and drug dealers, with every Riverina home derided as a grass castle, even if their family had worked their fingers to the bone growing vegetables in Australia’s food bowl.

He said the Italian community got through it by ostracising the criminal element within, as the broader community gradually realised its foolishness in judging the majority on the actions of a few.

Those on either extreme of the race argument will beg to differ, but these divisive trends don’t last forever in Australia.

The prospect of Pauline happily shaking hands with young homebuyers Tran and Vinh in a couple of Saturdays’ time serves as an unusual pointer to that reassuring fact.

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    • steve says:

      07:50am | 29/04/10

      Hey Pembo - You are being played off a break mate
      Pauline Hanson is a racist (Wow there is a news story) but she is now just Suzie Citizen , like the rest of us poor dumbos.
      She makes these statements and the media dutifully rush in to defend us all from these horrible thoughts and plaster her (and her house sale) all over the place

      Here is the truth mate
      The amount of the advertising you bozos have given her for her property sale is more than the sale is worth.
      It is her house and she can sell it to whoever she wants for what ever they will pay.
      If she does not want to sign the sales contract because the other party is named Mustafa then that is up to her and there is not a thing you can do about it
      She is not answerable to anyone as that is her choice

      She knows it and has just gotten back at you lot of all the nasty stuff that was printed
      Now who is the dumb?

    • Casey says:

      11:55am | 29/04/10

      Actually Steve, rather ironically, Hanson cannot refuse to sell to someone based on race, for fear of breaking state anti-discrimination laws.

      Pls see this story in yesterday’s SMH: http://www.smh.com.au/national/pauline-hansons-muslim-ban-illegal-20100428-tqbb.html

      So, she is in fact answerable and debate in a public forum, such as here on Punch (praiseworthy journalism in my opinion), only serves to do what all good journalism should - encourage transparency, accountability and public debate.

      Another great piece Penberthy.

    • Peter says:

      02:12pm | 29/04/10

      That’s why racist are just plain idiots.. If someone offered me lots of money for my house, i couldn’t care what their background was (as long as they are Australian citizens or perhaps at a stretch permanent residents).. Only an idiot would turn down $100K because of someones race. Regardless of whether or not you sell your house to them, they will still be living Australia, so what’s the point?

    • National Rational says:

      07:53am | 29/04/10

      I would suggest every one read the Quran from back to front yet?  Or Christopher Caldwell’s “Reflections on the Revolution in Europe”?  Unfortunately, believers of Islam must accept that system before the laws of theland in which they live which makes assimilation difficult if not impossible.  The Quran is not to be questioned whereas the archaic Bible is allowed to be discussed rationally.  Some people have a better grip on reality than others and make better citizens.

    • Ish says:

      10:47am | 29/04/10

      The Quran is interpreted by different groups with different interests just as the bible is. There are different factions of Islam just as there is with Christianity.

      And your quip about the bible being discussed rationally? Go and discuss the bible with a fundametalist Christian and see if you can sway them from believing what they believe.

      Assimilation is a disgusting word, I hate it and I’m a product of it. I have lost all of my culture because of racism as well as feeling the need to assimilate and it’s been replaced with the Australian culture…whatever that is. Assimilation assumes that one culture is more superior to the next where really it’s all subjective and the Australian culture is borrowed from other cultures anyway.

    • WK says:

      10:48am | 29/04/10

      Actually National Rational, I think you’ll find that even in Christian theology God’s laws are above man’s laws.  It is the non-Christians who try and discredit the Bible and any rational discussion around the Bible by Christians is to discuss how it could be applied in everyday life.

      In our modern society we are encouraged to have our own opinions and if it is our opinion we are entitled to disagree with the Bible or Christianity in general.  In a fundamentalist Islamic society disagreeing with Islam can bring on punishment or death. So comparing the the Quran (sp?) to theBible is not really relevant.

    • Markus says:

      12:16pm | 29/04/10

      WK (and Ish) comparing the Quran to the Bible based on what you have stated is absolutely relevant.
      The main difference is that fundamentalist Christians do not run this country and enforce God’s law over federal law (at least not officially).
      Western society has grown to the point where freedom of religion is allowed, but the nation’s laws come first.
      When you introduce a foreign people whose culture places God’s law over any existing laws (under penalty of death in some places), then as National Rational said, this is going to cause tension with the citizens who respect and abide by federal law first and foremost.

    • A Bob says:

      12:27pm | 29/04/10

      In relation to the New Testament and civil authority, it says this:

      “Every person is to be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God. Therefore whoever resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves. For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good and you will have praise from the same; or it is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath on the one who practices evil. Therefore it is necessary to be in subjection, not only because of wrath, but also for conscience’ sake. For because of this you also pay taxes, for rulers are servants of God, devoting themselves to this very thing. Render to all what is due them: tax to whom tax is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honor to whom honor.”

      Romans 13:1-7 NASB interpretation.

      Christians struggle with this passage. I’ve seen their eyes literally glaze over when first confronted with it, particularly the fundamenatlist, literalistic types.

    • H of SA says:

      01:47pm | 29/04/10

      “Render onto Caesar what is Casesar’s and onto God what is God’s”

      in the words of Jesus.

      Seperation of church and state has some biblical support and one can argue that citizenship is a valued in Christianity - though of course there are always variations of interpretation.

      I think Bonhoffer wrote some interesting material about this - of course experiencing first hand the moral dilemma’s of being a Christian and living in Nazi Germany. As he was involved in a plot to assisinate Hitler I guess he made a disctint choice at some point - reading his justification for this will be on my to read one day list

    • Joe says:

      03:13pm | 29/04/10

      Hey Ish, just because you don’t have any real feelings about the Australian culture “whatever that is”, doesn’t mean you have the right to call us racist for feeling strongly about our country, like you obviously do about yours.  I have strong feelings of what it is to be Australian. Its not necessarily anything specific, just a collection of memories and feelings I have from growing up here - that are unique to here. That is my culture and it is very clear and very real and it makes me feel good. Your opinions about what it is like over here for people from other countries, gives us a bad name and your comments are unwarranted. We fear that we will be labelled racist for the most minor things now and its ridiculous and sad. Practise what you preach.

    • Seano says:

      08:19pm | 29/04/10

      I’m sure the Reverend Fred Phelps would agree with you.

    • Seano says:

      07:55am | 29/04/10

      What we’re saying is that Hanson is too stupid to be a good bigot. Many people have pointed out to Hanson and her rabid so called “silent majority” of supporters that the similar fears they were spouting about Asian migration were expressed about the Italians and Greeks when they came.

      Which largely turned about to be meaningless, racist rhetoric. And now they’ve moved on to the Muslims, who’s next I wonder? Cue the doomsayers “but the Muslims are different and we’re allllll doooommmmed”.

    • Anne71 says:

      12:48pm | 29/04/10

      Well put, Seano. You’d only have to go back about a hundred years to find that Catholics, regardless of skin colour,  were regarded as highly undesirable citizens by the good, upstanding White Anglo-Saxon Protestants of the day. In fact, they were regarded in much the same way as Muslims are now. Then the Greek and Italian immigrants came along and took the heat off for a while. Followed, of course, by Asians, who had their time in Camp NIMBY.  Now it’s those of Middle Eastern extraction who are the objects of suspision and derision. I suppose that the only crumb of comfort I can offer is that in time, people will come to see that their fears are unjustified and will accept them as Australians too. In the immortal words of Rachel Hunter, it won’t happen overnight but it will happen.

    • dw says:

      12:49pm | 29/04/10

      Real assimilation doesn’t take place until at least the third generation. The first generation bring with them the culture (and language) of their birth.

      The second generation (their kids) is exposed to the clash of culture from their parent’s homeland with the assimilated culture of their birth.

      The traditions of the grandparents (though still observed) often lose significance with the third generation and beyond. Inevitably the culture of birth becomes more relevant.

      That is why the Italians and Greeks are no longer seen as ‘threats’. They offer the colourful nature of their heritage while being fully assimilated into australian culture. Spagbol anyone?

      Have patience with first and second generation migrants - they are still trying to sort it all out.

    • Seano says:

      09:07pm | 29/04/10

      You never know Hanson might read this article think to herself “Hey I used to be scared of the Asians, so maybe I’m getting abit carried away with this anti-muslim stuff, oh I have been a silly old muffin I’ll have to apologise”.

      Of course I reckon the Storm have got more chance of winning the NRL but anything’s possible.

    • agblaster says:

      08:27am | 29/04/10

      Cue Eric, Snag and Zeta, frothing at the mouth, twitching and muttering darkly about invasions, womens rights, and upper and lower receivers.

      Clack clack clack.

    • The Centre Punch. says:

      10:14am | 29/04/10

      @ agblaster, You conveniently forget to mention how BOTH Major Mistakes reacted to Pauline. They took a “bipartisan approach”. Which is code for, “they leapt into bed with each other” to coordinate their attack on a mutual enemy, who was, “extremely popular”.

      What did they do? Apart from exaggerate, what “she was on about” out of all proportion. They BOTH adopted her policies “word for word”. Which is how Cornelia Rau ended up behind the razor wire, “with children” in the desert.

      The “Beattie” red/green/getup/labour bureaucrats handling her, at one of Australia’s premium “Mental Health” institutions would have known for 100% guaranteed that she was unwell, probably also knew her citizenship as well when they buck passed her to immigration. Why?

      Take a look at the votes she got. Those people have gone nowhere & they are even more disappointed in the Major Mistakes now, than they were then. Pauline may not have expressed herself all that cleverly but that does not automatically mean everything she espoused was rubbish.

      My 100% white, British descent, son is married to a lovely Maori girl & i have no problem whatsoever with her, or my brown, coloured, grand daughter. I would also have no problem with my daughter marrying a nice young “non Muslim” northern African man i met called Biel. Tribal initiation scars on his forehead and all.

      Other races coming here assimilating & adding to our country is one thing. Allowing foreigners to buy the farm, mine, house, everything, when they don’t even live here is quite another.

      An family friend of mine is a chef married to a lovely “Thai” woman. They decided to move back to Thailand, “so she could be near to her family” (shades of men sacrificing for women again, but i digress) Obviously, him being a chef & having some foreign capital to invest, they were going to open a restaurant, create jobs, etc.

      You would think the Thai government would have no problem with that him being married to a Thai citizen, etc, but you would be wrong. Like many small business people they were not planning to actually, buy “real estate” but rent/lease premises for their business.

      His name was not allowed to be on the LEASE at all, not even jointly as Mr & Mrs Joe Blow. The LEASE had to be in her name only.

      Regards the formersnag & swinging voter.

    • Zeta says:

      11:27am | 29/04/10

      Dark muttering? Invasion? Prepare to have your third eye squeegied, Hive Drone. Never allow yourself the luxury of assuming that because the dead and deadening scenery of the Australian suburb-of-dreadful-night is so utterly devoid of mystery, so thoroughly flat-footed, sterile and infantile, so burdened with the illusory gloss of “barbecues-football-mullets-and-Commodores” that it is somehow outside the psycho-sexual domain. Pauline Hanson is just another in a long series of intricate, ritualised powerplays enacted by the Masonic-Industrial-Military Complex. Just as when they murdered Harold Holt, Pauline Hanson’s exile is another sacrifice to their dark, otherworldly Gods.

      Question: Why is that Pauline Hanson must be sent to England for the radical, mind altering implant therapy to turn her into the perfect solider when such operations are already common place in the Black Clinics of outer Western Sydney? How is she being manipulated by those few living exiles of the Fourth Reich to do their bidding?

      You can’t answer that. You can’t handle the truth. Only I can. That’s why I’m so heavily armed see. It’s not just because they’re like giant metal penises. Oh no. It’s because only I can wield the righteous fire against those who’d twist our very minds against us in the service of fungal insect overlords from Pluto!

    • agblaster says:

      01:58pm | 29/04/10

      QED, really.

    • Anne71 says:

      07:05pm | 29/04/10

      @Zeta - Best. Answer. EVER!!! smile Nanu nanu!

    • The Centre Punch. says:

      11:30am | 30/04/10

      @ agblaster, zeta, anne71, how exactly did you get “qed really”, or “best answer ever” from one of zeta’s mythopoetic, i “sound” so much more intelligent than you do, emotional rants?

      When i used plain, simple, English to raise issues that everybody is concerned about. Other than “ruling elites” from both the “raving right” & “loony left”, who account for about 1% of the population.

      Why don’t you try adding the entire, active, financial membership of the liberal, labour, national & green parties together. Then divide the “grand” total figure into the Australian population & see just how influential or representative you really are.

      Regards the former snag & swinging voter.

    • Anne71 says:

      12:26pm | 30/04/10

      @TheCentrePunch - please accept my humblest apologies. I had no idea you would take my response so very seriously.  I realise now that   must avoid levity, imagination, irony or humour in my responses to your discourses in future, and I strongly urge others to do likewise (yes, I AM looking at you, Zeta!)

    • iansand says:

      08:37am | 29/04/10

      I, like David, am old enoughto remember the stigmatisation of the Italians, then the Jugoslavs, then the Lebanese, then the Vietnamese (I may have the order wrong and have left out a few groups).  While I deplore racism I am reasonably confident that Australians will accept the latest wave.  I hear people say stuff like “Ahmed next door is a great bloke - it’s a pity that all the Muslims aren’t like him.”  Eventually people come to realise that “Ahmed next door” is the typical Muslim immigrant, and the irrational prejudice subsides.  That, and the inevitable mixing in playgrounds means that prejudice does not last more than a generation or so.  “Ahmed next door” will also come to feel more confident and accepted in Australia. The tendency to ghettoisation will subside, and the recruiting grounds for extremism will wither.

      Australia has absorbed waves of immigrants before and will continue to do so.  It is why I believe that, in spite of a few strident ratbags, Australia is not a racist country.

    • H of SA says:

      03:46pm | 29/04/10

      Yup, history shows that racism only last in Australia until we actually start interacting. The vast majority of Aussies will accept the reality that fears are unfounded when meeting with other humans.

    • Andrew says:

      08:55am | 29/04/10

      “Australia” is not an ageless monolith, but a process. Soon enough, in historical terms, large parts of it will become unrecognisable to its current participants, as they already have done to its first human ... victims.

    • Lilith says:

      09:22am | 29/04/10

      My partners family came in the 1950’s from Yugoslavia, he was born here and is an assett to this country. He works hard, pays his taxes, never takes sickies or time off work. Has never even had a parking ticket. My daughter inlaw’s family came here from China around the same period, she too is an assett to Aus. We have gained by immigration, we have gained by being tolerant and caring of others. I would hate to see that reversed.

    • Barry says:

      09:28am | 29/04/10

      Please dont not confuse descrimination of race and descrimination of religion. There is a difference.

      Eg. Hanson would not sell to a white muslim but would sell to an asian christian.

      If you speak out on the issues of islam does not make you a racist.

    • Nicole says:

      10:15am | 29/04/10

      Well said Barry, you took the words right out of my mouth. Islam is not a race.  Now personally, I think all those people who believe in Scientology are utter whack-jobs. Does that make me racist?

    • Dave says:

      11:18am | 29/04/10

      Very well spoken.  This is a fact.  We, in Australia must look at Australia and within, not the countries where the migrant came from!  We know there are plenty of problems back home.  That is why so many have come here to Australia.  We should be grateful for the special gifts of cultural, skills and mental ideas which so many of these persons have given to Australia over the years.
      Every community has it’s assimilation problems.  But, ours are minor compared to many countries.  That is why we have the system of government we do, with checks and balances to iron out the highs and lows.

    • I says:

      01:20pm | 29/04/10

      @Barry, so that makes it OK to say things like Muslims don’t fit in to “Australian culture” etc?  I agree racist is the wrong word, but prejudiced is the correct one and being prejudiced is just as wrong as being racist.  And Hanson wasn’t speaking out on the “issues of Islam” at all she was simply making an inflammatory comment to provoke a negative reaction so she could get some publicity on the sale of her home and maybe sell her crappy house for more than it is worth.  Also her comments do nothing more than reinforce the prejudice that so-called “real Australians” are a bunch of coarse, vulgur, inbred bogans with the combined intelligence of a 5 year old monkey.  Yeah that’s real helpful.

    • Barry says:

      01:38pm | 29/04/10

      @I says:

      My point is that religious groups should be open to critical thought.

      Race should not.  Have a look at those religions banned by western governments they are usually, cults, racist, violent etc etc. A good way to check a decent religion is can you leave that religion. Can you leave with out threats to your person or your family?


      Hanson is Hanson I would just ignore her and she will go away.

    • Eric says:

      01:48pm | 29/04/10

      “the prejudice that so-called “real Australians” are a bunch of coarse, vulgur, inbred bogans with the combined intelligence of a 5 year old monkey”

      “I”, that’s your prejudice.

      You should be ashamed for being such a bigot.

    • I says:

      03:46pm | 29/04/10

      @Barry

      I agree however critical thought implies some form of intelligent and coherent thought.  Hanson does not provide anything of the sort to the discussion, all she provides is prejudice.

      @Eric I was trying to point out that Hanson reinforces that stereotype.  I personally don’t think that given that I’m Australian myself

    • jamie says:

      09:37am | 29/04/10

      Stop giving this woman exposure. Yes, she did have some valid points on immigration, but they were soon smothered by a wave a stupidity, vindictiveness, idiocy and thinly veiled racism.

    • Shane says:

      09:38am | 29/04/10

      You hear a lot about how racist us whiteys are, and there’s no awareness of racism from other cultures, religions and racial backgrounds. Those of use who are white and married someone from another race / culture / religion will be aware that others can be a lot worse than white aussies when it comes to this topic.

    • notsurprised says:

      09:09am | 30/04/10

      Interesting Shane. My wife is Asian and on several occasions she has felt the harrasment from people of particular background, and no they were neither from her culture nor anglo. It is not racist to respect your country’s values nor is it racist to expect everyone living here do the same.

    • Rene says:

      09:39am | 29/04/10

      I am an immigrant and I had to adapt to the Australian way of life. This country was good enough to allow me to stay here and the best I can do is to fit in with Australia, not the other way around. I was told when immigrating I have to be able to support myself which I have done but now people are entering the country and for them to do so they must have enough(lots) funds to get to Australia.  These people are getting houses and medical and getting paid for being here. There are so much trouble in this country (just listen to the news every morning) and I do see trouble “brewing” in the future.  Being in a Muslim country before I was told to behave appropriately and not allowed to answer back or even attempt to reply to a statement. Australia do not have any standards.  Free for all if you not Australian.  Australia will wake up when it is too late.  It is all good and well to “help” people coming here to be safe…but the people that are really in trouble don’t have the funds to move to Australia?

    • Fortune Dagger says:

      09:46pm | 30/04/10

      Excellent comment, Rene. Goes to show you don’t have to be white or Anglo to be a bigot, does it?

      NIce. NIMBY.

      BTW, nice work, Pembo. Agree with you more and more, which is both fascinating and a bit disturbing smile Keep writing.

    • Martin G says:

      09:53am | 29/04/10

      Penbo, not sure if this has occurred to you but Pauline Hanson can sell her home to whoever she likes.

      Despite the calls of “RAAAAAAAACIST”, what Pauline has stated tends to be true - many immigrants do not assimilate or value/practice our way of life. Instead of turning a blind eye and insulting those people who dare say it is a problem, we should be confronting it head on.

      Multiculturalism does not always work well, especially when there is not effort on the part of the migrants to assimilate into Australian society. All blind mass immigration achieves is the import of existing racial and religious tensions that have no place in our fine country.

      On another note, did I say I am tired of apologism on behalf of the so-called ‘religion of peace’? I love how our press can drag Christianity’s name through the mud, but when it comes to Muslims who treat their wives and daughters as second-class citizens, it is okay (and that may well be the least of their sins). Either all criticism is okay, or not of it is.

    • AFR says:

      10:28am | 29/04/10

      A few points. Firstly, what is “our way of life”? Secondly, what do you mean by “assimilate”? Should immigrants have to put on thongs, crack open a VB and be given a crash course into why Holden is better than Ford? Finally, isn’t discrimiating when disposing of land illegal?

    • Steely Dan says:

      10:47am | 29/04/10

      As long as immigrants respect the laws and constitution (not some vague ‘culture’) of Australia, they’re welcome here. I don’t care if they wear ‘funny’ clothes, eat ‘weird’ food or listen to ‘wacky’ music.  I’m not a fashion, food or music critic, I’m an Australian who will welcome any new Australians who recognise the rule of law and the democratic process.  And if somebody in Australia is abusing their wife/daughter, then let them be treated like every other criminal in the country.

    • Martin G says:

      11:07am | 29/04/10

      Mateship, fair go, respect, I’d consider those things part of Australian life.

      I don’t really follow V8s or drink VB (it’s rubbish!), a start would be to learn the language, some customs, get a job, assimilate (try to mix with the rest of society)... I can tell you that’s a helluva lot less than would be expected if I decided to migrate to an Islamic country.

      I’m not lumping all migrants into a single category. I just ask - is it not fair to expect the above of people who choose Australia as their new home?

      “Finally, isn’t discrimiating when disposing of land illegal?”
      No. I can choose whoever the bloody hell I want to buy my property.

    • Moggy says:

      11:09am | 29/04/10

      Martin you are so very right.  I have recently read a book called The Islamist & it’s about a young Muslim boy in London who got caught up in the Jihad that the rampaging young Muslims are demanding in England. This was a young man who loved his Holy Book & knew it well & as the years went by he started to question the violent interpretation that the Jihadists were demanding. Finally he was able to break away from them. In a nutshell these jihadists in England are recruiting fighters from the middle east to bring England under the Muslim banner. They are already demanding sharia law & are starting to hassle for their own Islamic state in Britain. My brother-in-law who emmigrated to Oz many years ago recently went back to England to help his Dad through his final hours & to bury him, & he came back to Oz devastated, not only by his father’s demise but by what’s happening in England. I believe that immigration is a good thing for Australia & I love multi-culturalism. I host overseas students & love doing this. But WE must be the ones to decide who comes here & WE must make sure that there is never a major influx of a race OR religion that’s known to cause trouble or demand special treatment simply because they think they own God.

    • Mavis says:

      11:17am | 29/04/10

      AFR, are you saying our way of life is “to put on thongs, crack open a VB and be given a crash course into why Holden is better than Ford?”

      That would make you a bit of a racist.

    • Steely Dan says:

      12:50pm | 29/04/10

      @ Moggy

      All we need is strict adherence to the separation of church and state, we don’t need to resort to discrimination on the basis of race or religion. The right to believe (no matter how mad it is) is fundamental for a free society, but no religion should be given special treatment.  Freedom of speech does not guarantee freedom of action, no matter whether you commit crimes in the name of a god or not.  If we stick to our principles, no theocratic whack jobs of any description will want to come here.

    • BBB says:

      07:56pm | 29/04/10

      Martin,

      Mateship, fair go, respect - seriously do you think these things are actually part of Australian life?

      Mateship is probably some romantic hold over from Gallipoli and to me is an emotionally loaded term.  If mateship means friendship, then we are probably no different than any other country on earth.  My friends are my mates (male or female), but I do not see this as a link to me being Australian.  No disrespect to the people who died at Gallipoli, but mateship is not a uniquely Australian concept.

      A fair go - well these sorts of columns would not be written if we truly believed in a fair go.  On the one hand we pay hard earned tax dollars to send our armed forces to Afghanistan and yet we get up in arms at Afghans escaping their strife torn country (and it has been that way for years and years and years) and coming to Australia in rickety boats.  Something is not quite right.  If we do not care about the Afghans, why are we fighting in their country for?  A fair go sounds like a fair lot of tosh to me.

      Respect - see above or see people’s behaviour in peak hour traffic.

      Mateship, a fair go and respect are just pithy sentiments thrown around in an effort to try and define this country.  IMO, they are meaningless dribble.

      That said, you make some interesting points.  Assimilation is an interesting one.  We seemingly love Asian food, yet how many Asians do you see in the pub eating a steak and chips and washing it all down with a schooner?  Not many.  But then again, they shouldn’t have to and no one is forcing me to have the number 18 with black bean sauce either.

      What is the ‘religion of peace’?  Christianity deserves to be dragged through the mud.  I’m not condoning the use of religion by Muslim men to treat women as second class citizens, but hey look at Catholisim.  Mary McKillop can be made a saint, yet she could not get a job as a minister in the Catholic church.  Ridiculous.

      Let’s face it, Australia is a multicultural society.  We have to learn to all get along.  There is no us and them in this country.  Sunburnt, beer drinking yobbos drapped in the Australian flag are a minority.  As is Pauline Hanson.  Perhaps they can leave and do the country a favour by increasing the collective IQ on their departure.

    • Harry says:

      09:56am | 29/04/10

      Dear Dave, upon reading your spiel I thought about the transitional aspect of migrants to Australia and juxtaposed the Asian migrants and the Southern European migrants. As highlighted by Hanson’s comment Asians are now deemed ok as was the situation years ago with Italians and Greeks. I hope that this acceptance as part of our nations maturity is also afforded to the Arabs and Africans who have chosen to call Australia home. It reminds me of an exchange with one of my best mate’s dad who was Italian. In reference to his poor return on a crabbing trip out at Port Gawler one day in the late 80’s he retorted it was the “bloody asians who had fished out the crabs”  I responded with “oh is that right… wouldn’t have anything to do with you wogs fishing there for the last 50 years would it.”

    • ytu says:

      09:57am | 29/04/10

      If Anglo’s were racing to buy houses in Blacktown, Auburn or Cabbramatta I’d agree that we’ve become a multicultural utopia. But we both know this will never happen, so instead, we have balkanized major cities - and there’s no reason to believe these will be sustainable long-term.

    • bec says:

      10:08am | 29/04/10

      Stop talking about her. This is what she does: make an offensive statement, garner 4% of the votes from the sector of the population whose parents are related to each other by blood, and then renovate her kitchen from the AEC profits.

      Girlfriend might have vile things to say, but she’s a bloody great entrepreneur.

    • Saskia says:

      10:30am | 29/04/10

      Why the constant attacks on free speech in this country?

      Surely Rudd’s small nasty little vision for Australia has not made us this PC and intolerant already?

      Lets brace ourselves for a comment from the ALP thought police who have nothing better to do than force their sick code of morality and self loathing onto us all.

    • ytu says:

      11:12am | 29/04/10

      Excellent post Saskia. ‘The next fascist will be the anti-fascist’ and will want to change the flag and make the society more inclusive and equal.

      Time for an Australian Tea Party, I say.

    • James1 says:

      12:29pm | 29/04/10

      Sorry Saskia.  I didn’t notice the Liberal Party saying anything in support of these kind of views.  Blaming this on the ALP is pretty sad, when there is a consensus on both sides of politics that this rubbish is irrelevant.  You views are marginalised because they are marginal (and not because of political correctness), and not held by anyone in mainstream politics.  Before you say you speak for the silent majority, let me tell you that most people you know share these views because they are uneducated and ignorant, just like you.  It is not a majority at all, just a majority of the people you happen to know.

    • H of SA says:

      02:05pm | 29/04/10

      YTU, an Australian Tea Party, are you on the wind up? Our Christian political groups have their own identity and are usually more respectful of authority – and our libertarians would be embarrassed by the association.

      and James1 is correct. The most common reason for the marginalisation of views in Australia is that the views themselves are marginal. We have a great deal of free speech in this country - including the freedom to say what someone else says is incorrect.

      When someone says that what you are saying is crap, its not an attack on your freedom of speech – it’s a person asserting their own free speech. Free speech is not, and never should be a protection from disagreement and ridicule – pulling an argument apart, satire and counter argument are all themselves exercises in free speech.

      If someone says something out of touch, crazy or incorrect – they should be subjected to the full glare of other people’s free speech. This in itself is an important function of free speech. People are allowed to say whatever they want – and the world is entitle to roll its eyes. Otherwise lies become as valued as the truth – and that’s just not how people are built.

      Thought police? No just a reasonable sensible Australian public who are smart enough to know bs from reason and fact.

    • agblaster says:

      02:53pm | 29/04/10

      “Why the constant attacks on free speech in this country?”
      What total, absolute 24 carat tosh, Saskia.

      Free speech. Marvellous thing. Cuts both ways.  No one here has questioned Ms Hanson’s right to open her mouth. Its what comes out of it that we are *all* are entitled to question and to reply to. Likewise Saskia. *That’s* free speech.

      That’s what blogs are about. Different views. Post foolish, untruthful, or misleading remarks in public and you can expect someone to notice, quick sticks.

      Good, innit?

    • Willy K says:

      03:21pm | 29/04/10

      Spot on Saskia.

      Any comment not authorised by ‘Australia PC Groupthink Ltd’ is immediately dismissed and the individual vilified and demonised by the howling mob of mouthbreathers that have fallen for all the brainwashing our poorly educated and incredibly unworldly media and teachers have rammed into their pointy little skulls.

      No debate, no logic, no manners… just puffed up PC facism in intellectual drag, fueled by deep seated self-loathing and cowardice.

      Welcome to Kruddland.

    • James1 says:

      04:42pm | 29/04/10

      Willy K - being marginal tends to make people angry.  You are a perfect example of this.  You have some hide talking about manners and debate, when your answer to our contention that racialist views are marginal is that we must be PC groupthinkers who breathe through our mouths.  Who is stopping Ms Hanson from saying the silly things she says, exactly?  She is perfectly entitled to say silly things, but free speech tends to weed out the sillier opinions.  That is all that happened to Ms Hanson.  She said some dumb stuff, people called her on it, and she decided to leave.

      I suppose you and Saskia would like to elaborate on what a healthy code of morality is?  Or perhaps you are just happy to call educated, intelligent people “nasty”, “howling mobs”.  Don’t discriminate against me just because I happen to have some experience and an education, with your anti-intellectual facism.

    • freeman says:

      07:48pm | 29/04/10

      Well put Saskia.
      free speech only works for liberal-progressive types who want to
      attack the establishment while those who speak out against
      against socialist views are now silenced by political correctness.
      The view that racism is strongest in the western/ anglo saxon
      world is so naive. It’s just that we impose guilt on ourselves for
      being so.

    • Seano says:

      09:12pm | 29/04/10

      Ms Hanson has the right to free speech. But she doesn’t have the right to discriminate based on race or religion. That’s the law.

    • John Richard says:

      11:04am | 29/04/10

      I don’t agree with her, however i know for instance i couldn’t sell my home to bikies, i know a large portion could be well behaved yet i couldn’t do that to my neighbors on the off chance they weren’t.

    • Julie McNeill says:

      11:26am | 29/04/10

      Yes, my neighbour regresses with the times! But she is less superficial - she has more depth; now its not the colour of your skin, but their religion too… She knows how to get free national/international advertising when she still hasn’t sold her country retreat.

    • ~Al Grazby~ says:

      12:59pm | 29/04/10

      You would all be amazed at how many people still love and respect Pauline Hanson in Australia. She is a woman of our times!
      Because of a bunch of vitriolic, sarcastic bloggers who use big words to make themselves appear more intellectual and PC, all puffed up and ready to attack people who have a different opinion, us followers say nothing.

      Some of us have opinions about hand outs, terrorism, violence and illegal entry to our country and we don’t wear thongs and drink VB.
      We are actually all around you but don’t voice our opinions. This is because you are talking over the top of everyone else with your own do-gooder NIMBY speak!!!
      Good luck with selling your home Pauline, you have saved a lot of money on advertising. Great publicity. Hope you get your price and spend it O.S.

    • Martin G says:

      04:01pm | 29/04/10

      “Because of a bunch of vitriolic, sarcastic bloggers who use big words to make themselves appear more intellectual and PC, all puffed up and ready to attack people who have a different opinion, us followers say nothing.”

      Exactly. Let’s not forget their mob pelting Pauline Hanson with eggs because they disagreed with her views. How ‘tolerant’ of them!

      I’m tired of the latte-left dictating terms and telling me my views are racist. Just because your policies give you a warm, fuzzy feeling inside, does not mean they achieve anything, lefties.

    • H of SA says:

      04:44pm | 29/04/10

      Aye, because the lefties are also so ashamed of their liking of coffee and education. Methinks it be time for some new material.

    • James1 says:

      04:45pm | 29/04/10

      That’s right Martin.  Lets not forget that lefty Tony Abbott leading the drive to have her political party deregistered, and to have Ms Hanson thrown in jail for electoral fraud.

      And if you are so against attacking people who hold different opinions, what does that say about the last paragraph of your post?  Does that make you a hypocrite?

    • H of SA says:

      01:37pm | 29/04/10

      It shows something interesting about Aussie racism, it doesn’t seem to last too long in the face of interaction.

      Greeks and Italian – when they first got hear hated and called wogs – decades of interaction and an accepted part of Aussie culture – wog not even considered an offensive word by most as it has as many positive as negative connotations.

      Asians – the yellow tide hated for “taking our jobs” at first. Decades later,  Asians everywhere, just normal life now – many new jobs created through Asian investment – Japanisation of Anglo Australian youth culture.

      Lebanese – Cronulla Riots – in 10 years time…………

    • Destry says:

      01:49pm | 29/04/10

      I don’t know if Hanson’s claim that “between 1984 and 1995, 40 per cent of all migrants coming into this country were of Asian origin ” is true or not. If it’s true, can someone explain to me again why she gets attacked for speaking facts? Perhaps some scribes, who embellished her sayings and then criticized their own embellished creations , were so used to hearing political spin that facts were too confronting for them.  I love Asian people… I travel in Asia and nowhere else ... but I see nothing wrong with anything she said in her first parliamentary speech.  Perhaps all the precious flower-sniffers should look around them and see and learn what is happening in their country and community and refrain from opening their yaps and sprouting abstract, idealistic crap.  It probably comes as a surprise to many that reality is still out there.

    • jaryd says:

      02:17pm | 29/04/10

      So sterotypical, not all muslims do that… just cause a few do, it does’t mean all.
      im a vegetrain by religion, but i still have meat, and get on the piss almost every weekend with mates. and my family is religious, but unlike other people, we do not take it seriolusly.

    • stephen says:

      02:30pm | 29/04/10

      I’ll wager the minute Pauline sinks her teeth into north sea cod and chips she’ll back back here in a flash, and she kin come and live at my place cause I live wif 4 Indians and and Asian cat. (The Tongans are next door).

      (Me muver always said me future’s in hospitality).

    • Sam says:

      02:55pm | 29/04/10

      Aussies of European descent have to realise that Australia is no longer their country. The sooner they come to accept that they will only be a small minority in 50 years time the better. Language lessons in Chinese & Arabic should be compulsory in all schools from now on to prepare for this massive cultural/demographic change.

    • H of SA says:

      03:06pm | 29/04/10

      I think you just made some of the uber-right spit out their drinks in pure rage

    • Markus says:

      03:37pm | 29/04/10

      But then where are all the white English, Kiwis and Saffas going to go?

    • Peter Simmons says:

      02:58pm | 29/04/10

      Funny that the same “intellectuals” professing their hatred of any criticism of a religion that insists on Sharia law on the grounds of religious discrimination is so intent on attacking religions that exist in our so called democracy.
      Things like “Piss Christ” are freely attacked by our intellectual elite,  but these same people are strangely silent to defend any questioning or artistic take on Islam.
      Christians do not decapitate so called artists who use this religion for their own ends.
      I bet if a similar Islamic artwork was created, the Left and the Media would ban it, being too scared of retribution as in the South Park Capitulation.
      Hanson at least has the guts to say what the MAJORITY think no matter how much the minority,  but vocal, SP’s think

    • Cuppa says:

      03:14pm | 29/04/10

      Well said Peter.Spot on.

    • H of SA says:

      03:27pm | 29/04/10

      Yup Hanson reflected what the majority thought so well that at the height of her popularity almost 10% of the country voted for her!

      Seriously what basis is there in fact for the view Ms. Hanson relfects the majority? She is entiltled to her view but you must be “aving a larf” (as Ms. Hanson will soon here it pronounced) in saying her views are mainstream

    • Martin G says:

      04:05pm | 29/04/10

      H of SA, you have a short memory. John Howard was clever and took some of Hanson’s policies and repackaged them nicely as his own. That 10% is probably closer to 60%.

      Peter Simmons you are spot on. The ‘religion of peace’ should be renamed the ‘religion of protected species’ or the ‘religion with no sense of humour’.

    • H of SA says:

      04:35pm | 29/04/10

      Your right Martin, he took some of her policies, but he decried her views in the main. Lets not forget aswell that taking some of her policies led to the “mean” part of the “mean and tricky” label which JWH never managed to shake and was part of the personal dislike factor in his downfall - so that tells you another side of what the majority thought of the more extreme aspects of coalition policy.

      Additionally 60% didn’t ever vote for the coalition - they never even got to 50% of the primary vote under Howard at any of his winning elections. I would also suggest that those 40-45% who voted coaltion did so for a varitey of reasons like low company tax rate, dislike of Latham ect. Many of the Liberatarian Liberals and Wets in who support the party would have vehemntly disagreed with the borrowed One Nation Policy - but voted coalition anyway for other reasons.

    • George says:

      05:47pm | 29/04/10

      Majority? I feel sorry for the people you know Peter Simmons

      Everyone I know anywhere I go, hates her guts.

    • Lola says:

      03:34pm | 29/04/10

      She doesnt know yet,but I am going to buy it and fill it with dog poo.

    • Heidi says:

      08:25am | 30/04/10

      Silly person!

    • Atheist says:

      04:14pm | 29/04/10

      I hate leet, but I can’t help myself.  LOL @ Hanson saying what MOST of us think.  There are alot of Australians that are concerned about allowing the violence and deprivation of rights that is associated with hardcore Islamic regimes having any influence on our society.  But to suggest that because of this MOST Australians wouldn’t sell their house to a Muslim is absurd. 

      My ancestors came here on a wooden boat from England, so the only people that can claim to be more Australian are the Aborginal people.  I think the influx of migrants to our country has done nothing but enhance it.  I would welcome any Muslim family around to my house for dinner, but I hope they won’t be expecting any VB and they’ll be disappointed that I don’t have a Ford or Holden in the garage. 

      While completing my nine years in the Australian Army I had a Muslim friend.  We had lots of fun with him during Ramadan but we all had an immense respect for him and his dedication to his religion and culture.

      Wouldn’t sell to a Muslim….please explain?

    • Peter Simmons says:

      05:51pm | 29/04/10

      After 9 years you had one Muslim friend.  Any soldier who has served has myriads of friends from all worlds and religions.
      This debate is not about individuals.  I had 20 years and never cared less about a person’s religion,  race or anything else.
      This argument is about an organized religions that demands it’s rights at the expense of others and refuses to associate with the Western values we enjoy.
      If you had nine years,  Atheist,  you would know:  the system does not work unless all work together.
      Ex Artillery

    • Atheist says:

      08:46am | 30/04/10

      Actually the debate is about prejudice against people based on their religion.  Pauline has declared she would not sell her house to a Muslim.  I know plenty of Muslims that are good, honest people.  I also know a few lunatic Christians.  To classify anyone based on religion is ignorant.
      For the record, after nine years I had more than one Muslim friend, just one close Muslim friend but I suspect you knew what I meant.
      I agree with nurturing our western civil rights (I think values is another argument completely) but that doesn’t mean shutting ourselves off from the World, or them from us.  Lumping all Muslims into the category of woman hating terrorists is just like suggesting Australians are beer swilling fatties that run around stabbing Indians.

    • Brad Coward says:

      04:25pm | 29/04/10

      For the record, the house that Hanson is trying to sell is not located in Brisbane.  It is located just outside of the city of Ipswich.

      Not that I’m trying to let facts get in the way of a good beat-up or anything like that !

    • Seano says:

      09:05pm | 29/04/10

      How does that fact change anything?

    • Brett L says:

      08:01pm | 29/04/10

      Well may you indulge yourselves on your eccentric comments denouncing Pauline Hanson. But you are far placed from the ordinary Australians on the streets. I meet and talks to hundreds of people each week, and the comments here are by no way common to what is being expressed in the suburbs. So many PC people that would never prove their convictions. Try opening a mosque in Noosa, or watch any commercial or TV show it’s right there for you see the bias and prejudice. What makes TV stations think they will loose ratings to put a Muslim as the host on the 7pm Project? Go and get some public opinion on the street.
      Take a look at France, England, and Russia, we can all see how Islam is good for us. 50 years from now, we will be reading in the news, “Islamic separatists in the former NSW state declared a truce with Queensland troops”.

    • H of SA says:

      12:22pm | 30/04/10

      Something tells me you might be keen to join the soldiers of Queensland.

      This post makes me really, really glad you have to join the army or the police to carry firearms in this country

    • Wolfhound says:

      01:12am | 30/04/10

      Indeed Brett L - take a look at France! They are in the process of banning the burka in public places. They have a population with 10% Muslims, and it is getting out of hand, with constant demands to have THEIR religious needs met. Free speech for all, but not having someones else’s ideas forced down your throat. You go girl !!!

    • agblaster says:

      07:03am | 30/04/10

      But, but, but, sob…Brett, Oh Brett, is there no hope at all?

      None? Oh me! Oh my! Oh woe! Alas! Sob!

      Half a mo. I know…get on to Zeta. *He’ll* help ya!

      Check ya upper and lower receivers, man, tighten that bandanna, n head for the hills. Clack clack clack!

    • just wondering says:

      10:43am | 30/04/10

      Can someone please give me an example of a predominantly Muslim country that is well enough run (freedom of speech, lack of corruption, general democracry) that their people aren’t trying to leave it and relocate to ‘western’ countries?  Why are there so many Muslims on the move in the world?  I am truly curious.

    • Ellie says:

      12:57pm | 30/04/10

      I wish I could tell you. Would love to know the reasons why also. If they want to be around muslims and think everyone who isn’t a muslim is unholy, then why do they come to non-muslim countries. I guess maybe there is more opportunity to earn dollars in some cases. But that wouldn’t be true for all.

    • Mark says:

      11:55am | 30/04/10

      Another distracting story from news.com.au. Who cares David, no one puts much credibility to what Hanson says, yet you apparently do. Your beloved Kevin Rudd has had the biggest shocker by a PM in living memory yet you want to run the whole Pauline Hanson thing. Would a blog on the disaster Rudd is facing right now have caused you to do some real research?

    • Man says:

      01:40pm | 30/04/10

      As an Aussie-born Asian, I have adopted an ‘Aussie’-esque lifestyle. Unfortunately I’ve now lost most of my heritage and am seemingly unable to integrate into any group of friends to the depths caucasian people do despite my best efforts. Add to this the exclusion from Asian groups for being not Asian enough, we Aussie-born Asians cop it from all sides! Despite best intentions, Aussies ARE racist - some just don’t realise it because everyone around them have the same beliefs. E.g. Being single, my Aussie friends insist on me finding a “nice Asian girl”. This blind racism pains me more than the blatant racism I’ve had to grow up with. I even have to put up with racist jokes which are then clarified, if I’m in earshot, with the reasoning “-but you don’t count. You’re different to them.”. While I do love this country, despite the onslaught of taxes and inflation from a government who seems to be running the country as an experiment, double standards revolving around race still exist on all fronts.

      As for Pauline, she is just a byproduct of thoughts spawned from an era when white Australia felt threatened and fearful of immigrants, and not worth the air time in the media. I’d seriously doubt any Asian would want to buy the house of Pauline Hanson…unless they wanted to demolish it grin

    • Steve says:

      11:14pm | 30/04/10

      It’s no different in Asia, though. I spent about 6 years there, and no matter how many local friends I had, I was always the ‘gaijin’, the ‘laowai’, the ‘waegukin’ and was treated differently - sometimes for the better, sometimes for theworse. My point is you can’t escape it anywhere, unfortunately. Look at Europe and the rise of these far-right parties. Mexican friends tell me upon visiting America they can just feel the racism right below the surface just in talking to people, even in their more liberal cities.

      Even I myself as a naturalised Aussie (was born in Germany but was 2 when my family moved to Australia) find people still double take at my surname all the time (with kind of a ‘wtf?’ attitude) and know there’s something a bit different about me (I think I have some cultural quirks from growing up in a household you might say was run in a European style rather than typically “Aussie” (if there is such a thing)).

      Point I’m making is you just can’t have it 100% ‘non-racist’ anywhere and there’s simply always an extent to which you have to put up with it and get on with life. Sure it might be easier for me as I’m caucasian but I’ve still felt it nonetheless.

    • gary wright says:

      02:25pm | 02/05/10

      Your article proves you are Australian becuase you have adopted a modified Australian lifestyle and you say you love this country. If that is true, then that is all you have to do. You will never lose your heritage nor should you. All immigrants experience the feelings you describe.
      All countries are racist.

      As anglo immigrant child I vividly recall the old man next door insisting on emptying his latrine over our fence and refusing to stop doing so saying ‘go back to England you dirty poms’. And I never stop disliking anyone calling me a ‘pom’ which is apparently legally authorised racism.

      But in the end I simply say ‘so what’. I still love this country and will always be loyal to it. I suspect Pauline would embrace you and make you welcome if you approached her and if you wanted her to, because you are Australian.

    • naren says:

      03:40pm | 30/04/10

      I am firstly an Australian, Citizen by choice, I choose to make Australia home for all the positive reason a lot of people in here have already mentioned. Love it. I immigrated from India, studied here, work here, married here, have a house here, have a whole heap of friends from all backgrounds ( in fact, i have very few “Indian” friends), So i assume I have “assimilated” into the Australia culture. But still, everytime I meet someone new ( I mean someone born here, white and Australian and its mainly the baby boomers), the first question they ask is, So where are you from?, I used to tell them I was from India, not I just say im from Chatswood. My point being, its not enough if the migrants assimilate, the general population also must.
      so stop asking me where im from, It does not matter. I am Australian now and will always be whatever my skin colour is.

    • H of SA says:

      03:59pm | 30/04/10

      Though I can sympathise Naren, there is probably nothing sinister in people asking where you are from. Most people are just bored and a little to socially akward to thinking of anything clever to say. So a combination of interest in the exotic, social anxiety and lack of inspired thought means people will use this as a filler line when they meet you for the first time.

    • Fortune Dagger says:

      10:39pm | 30/04/10

      Good for you, Naren. Your experience is a real one for any of us who’ve come here, or like me or Man were born here but are a bit ‘brown’. I’m Australian because I am not anything else, you because you chose - welcome!
      We have a responsibility to get out and be create the Australia we want to have - an inclusive, tolerant country that is a place for people of all colours and religions.
      When Pauline was voted in, I left my comfortable inner city enclave and sought a job in a rural town. It was confronting for me - and for a lot of the country folk I met and lived amongst. I became one of those people we hear talked about: “I don’t like XYZ, but that Fortune, s/he’s okay.” We learned not to be afraid of each other, these big hat wearers and the wog from the city.
      Change for the better doesn’t come until we bring it. I say, BRING IT ON. In fact, I say, I will be the change I want Australia to be. We and our friends are the ones who can make Pauline and her ilk pale (yes that’s a pun) into insignificance.

    • Yuri says:

      12:49am | 01/05/10

      @ Ellie and whoever else was asking WHY muslims are mass immigrating to countries they hate which are full of people, cultures and religions they despise (anything besides islam). Why is it muslims don’t immigrate to other muslim countries? If they were trying to escape their country’s “hard ways” then why is it they bring these same hard ways to Australia with them and expect us to follow these ways? “Uncovered women deserve to be raped,” remember that? If I was to say the same thing publicly about muslim women (all muslim women deserve to be raped) why is it I think that I won’t just be asked to make an apology? How is it “poor” people can suddenly come up with LOTS of money to pay for a boat trip here? If you see “halal” in the ingredients of anything it means that it has been islamised. Have you ever seen the “humane” way they kill goats and so on to meet the halal requirements? I bookmarked it somewhere but anyways what happened to this goat? It had its throat slashed by a laughing muslim and then it was put into a bath until it bled to death all while it was desperately squirming around. Does that sound humane to you? Anyways all this is part of “The Plan.” This plan is to take over countries by their numbers and then the entire world. Think about the countries which used to be mostly Christian or whatever and then the muslims came in and took over. Look at those countries now. Welcome to Austrabia in the next 20 years. If they weren’t trying to take over by numbers then why is it they breed like rabbits when they get here with many wives??? You are now the goat in that bath.
      PS: @ Naren, it’s called curiosity so get over it.

    • Brett L says:

      01:56am | 01/05/10

      Don’t get me wrong, migration can work. In fact it has to work. But more emphasis must be placed on integration rather than cultural separation. I actually feel good to be overseas and to hear an Australian accent coming from a former Chinese migrant. What I don’t like is suburbs turning into foreign states. Suburbs that have no resemblance to Australia. One of the problems is migrants not letting the second generation assimilate and breed with Anglo races. The second and third generations usually become more relaxed and integrated. I mean you choose this country for it’s people and lifestyle so take it in and make it part of your life. There is no doubt we need to keep our population growing to keep up with the World. Can you imagine Australia with just 25 Million and then Indonesia and India above us with 2 Billion each? We won’t last long like that. Either way Australia will be populated, we just need to do it correctly.

    • gary wright says:

      04:03am | 01/05/10

      David,

      Whilst I share you apparent desire to promote community harmony, it is disappointing that you have chosen do so by appearing to mock and patronise Puline Hanson.  Perhaps her primary motive is concern for the neighbours she leaves behind.

      Community harmony cannot be promoted by encouraging anger and resentment in those you dismiss as racist (which I think your article may) , or by simply hoping and trusting that serious problems will go away.

      You must meet your opponent’s very best argument with reason, example and carefully checked facts. This you have failed to do so. 

      You argue that Australia will sucessfully absorb Muslims, reasonably quickly. What basis do you have for this assertion? What evidence do you present? You simply argue that this has happended with other races in Australia over time, and ask us to read about the immigrant experience of someone else from a non Muslim culture.

      First, you assume that the majority of Muslims will want to be absorbed. Do they? What is your evidence? Why do you presume that all races and religions will want to be be absorbed in the same way as they have in the past? When their numbers are sufficient, they have no need to be ‘asbsorbed’. The world is changing, as are demographics.  People have very different views now as to whether or not to assimilate in countries they go to.

      It is a clear logical flaw, and possibly offensive to Muslims, to assume they are the same as other races and religions in this respect. It risks showing insufficient respect for the strenghth of their beliefs. Some radicals may wish never to be absorbed. What evidence do you present as to how many share this view?  You do knot know.

      What example do you give of successful absorbtion in other similar countries? The fact that you use Britain and Europe as examples of non-assimilation disproves your case.

      What evidence do you present as to why Australia is fundamantally different, and likely to be more successful, in its ability to absorb Muslims. None. And what if you are wrong? Will you take responsibility for your article then?

      A skilful journalist could address all these points and still be entertaining. It is very easy to mock others. Far harder to make your point properly. ‘She’ll be right mate’ wont cut it this time David.  Not nice is it?

    • PunchDrunk says:

      08:52am | 01/05/10

      In hindsight, Pauline was a prophet in her own time, however, the politicians were not listening.

 

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