The debate about whether Tony Abbott should or should not have been able to answer questions about peak internet speeds probably divides Australians into two classes: the digerati and the rest.

Is it time to pull the plug?

Most Australians are hooked up to the web now, and the unconnected are a dwindling band of Luddites, plus those who believe they’re too old to learn computers, or too poor to pay for access.

But among those who do have internet access, there’s a wide spectrum of different experiences.

It’s too easy for someone like me, who spends much of every day surfing the net, to forget that most Australians have neither the time nor the inclination to do the same.

I’m not denying for a second that decisions about our internet infrastructure are absolutely central to our social and economic future.

But many in the public have not yet caught up with the changes that are almost certainly going to require voracious quantities of internet capacity – they don’t necessarily ‘get it’in the way that the tech-heads and the Twitterati do. And then there are the total hold-outs.

What made me think about all this was an anonymous letter I received in the post, written in pencil of lined paper.

Unlike some of the missives I receive, it was in a neat hand, every word was perfectly spelled, and it was grammatically correct.

And while the disgust with the modern world it expressed was fairly extreme, it did make me read to the end.

Apologists for ­TECHNONEWNESS who talk about PROGRESS always lead me towards a gross leaning to pulp their little plastic, yacking GIMMICKS into a rough paste the consistency of oatmeal and make them force it down their throats while they are subjected to 3 1/2 hours of old Mouseketeer programs. Science and technology have done less than nothing for human “PROGRESS”, except make our lives NOISER, FASTER, STUPIDER, GREEDIER, SILLIER, UGLIER, NASTIER and MORE DESTRUCTIVE in every sense of the word.

The ­two worst things­ ever invented, the TELEPHONE and the AUTOMOBILE, set the scene 100 years ago, and since then we have gone from bad to worse.  The spectacle of an entire city block of pedestrians yakking into their plastic Jiminy Crickets about where they are now, where they might be in ten minutes, where they were last night, where they might be next Tuesday, and whether or not the dog food is on top of the fridge or out in the woodshed, fills me with a leaden horror that has banned me from any city precinct for the last seven and a half years.

The tragic irony of these ghastly implements, despite what Technogeeks like Stephen Fry assert, is that they are the most effective impediments to communication that has yet been devised.
It is absolutely inevitable, no matter where you are, or who it is you might be trying to talk to, the moment you open your mouth one of these cursed contraptions will start ringing in your ears, or the phone on the wall will join in as well, and of course they’ve both got to be loud enough to overload the equally inevitable squalling television set in the next room, or the car radio blaring in the car park outside, the droning wail of the ride-on lawnmower on the other side of the road, or the helicopter thundering overhead on its way to poison the marshlands.
I have totally abandoned all pretence at verbal communication except to mutter “Hello!” or “Thank You” or “That one over there, please”, and hightail it out of all proximity to my fellow human beings, whom

I now regard as nothing more than two-legged appendages to the MAW of the Machine Age, and the ruthless corporate gangsters who are making millions out of our pathological obsession with gadgets..
When I hear that 100,000 people queued up OVERNIGHT so that they could get first choice of the latest Japanese video game, I know we are on the way out. And HIGH TIME TOO.

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    • Louis McLennan says:

      06:47am | 12/08/10

      You don’t have to rub it in by spending all the guys taxes on something useless either? When people WANT faster broadband it will be there. The offices of Australia have the internet they require. The prices are as low as $40 a mbit for business now (possibly lower if your buying large amounts). All these rookies on twitter and whirlpool seem to fail to understand both communications and most importantly money.

      What needs addressing is those who can’t get broadband. Not those who already have it!

      Our future does not rely on high-speed broadband but rather, sound decisions by a good government.

    • TheRealDave says:

      07:43am | 12/08/10

      Louis, never let facts get in the way of having an opinion. You may want to check out just what businesses are paying for their broadband links not only to the world but between their corporate offices around the country. You may need a Bex and a lie down once you see it. Try looking over at Telstra’s Business section where a simple 4mb up/down account will set you back over $4000 a MONTH - and then you pay for every MB that goes through it.

      Our future does infact rely of fast broadband with the capacity to grow as we grow. Only FTTH provides this. The Liberal plan is ludicrous at best.

    • troy says:

      12:35pm | 12/08/10

      TheRealDave says:, Then You Pay For It. The internet we have now is fine, and if it means that we have to spend 3 years of Government surplus to get faster broadband then I am happy to stick with what we have now. 44 billion is a Ridicules amount of money to get faster internet, especially whan you consider KRudds policy in the 2007 election was to spend 4 billion to upgrade NBN. How do you justify spending 1100% more without even a business plan? Then when the technology becomes obsolete we have a 44 billion dollar white elephant that is worthless. If the private sector cant see a business case for it and wont invest in the how can Labor think that this is a good investment of our money. The Libs plan for me all the way, as it may not be the rollsroyce but it will do the job, and we dont have to borrow billions from other countries to get it.

    • Bryan says:

      12:42pm | 12/08/10

      RealDave, you should do a bit of checking around. We have broadband and pay about $96 a month. Date rates vary, typically from about 5Mb to 8Mb (worst case best case scenario). These data rates are tested regularly. The main connection comes into an 8 port router and in turn in reticulated around the building via smart switches and a couple of wireless routers.

      All in all there are up to 10 users at a time connected concurrently. We have a download limit of 50Gb per month, however we rarely go over this. I would suggest that we are a pretty normal business user.

    • TheRealDave says:

      01:07pm | 12/08/10

      @Troy so you missed the repeated posts and news article about KPMG auditing and reviewing the NBN proposal and plan? Maybe Liberal voters just don’t comprehend well?

      The NBN id for ALL Australians to benefit from - not just sweaty little 14 year olds downloading porn and pirating movies. The major benefits are to business. Have you ever been responsible for connecting large corporate office networks ups, site offices, branch offices etc? I have, and its bloody expensive and its slow. Its a frustrating experience for end users/clients. To get any sort of decent throughput is ludicrously expensive. Take a look for yourself over in the business plans section of Telstra. Extortionate is a nice way of putting it.

      The reason why people in metre area’s are stuck on RIM’s or even worse - are stuck on dial up is because its not economically feasible (read - don’t give a crap) about providing a service to a small number of people - or they want to do it on the cheap and damn the consequences. The Coalition’s FraudBand project is a continuation of this. They won’t replace all those RIMs, you might get intermittent poorly performing wireless instead - just don’t use your microwave when downloading your porn!

      The Libs plan is a farce. It does not address the single point of failure with the telecommunications infrastructure of this country - that up to 50 year old ‘Last Mile’ of copper running into your house/business. You could stick 100 terabyte pipes between the exchanges - its no good if your copper is failing, noise on the lines, repairs been done with plastic bags and gaffer tape. Fibre is the only thing that will take us into the next 4, 5, 6 decades. Nothing else comes close to what Fibre can do.

      And all of that is ontop of the obvious benefits of stripping control of the network away from Telstra. Imagine a clean level playing field for EVERYONE! We wouldn’t be in this state if it wasn’t for the contemptible practices of Telstra over the last 10-15 years.

    • Chris says:

      03:49pm | 12/08/10

      The Real Dave… your pricing is incorrect… our business has 2mbps synchronous for $400 a month plugged straight into Telstra’s fibre backbone.

    • Richard says:

      04:04pm | 12/08/10

      Er yeah, because the Japanese economy is growing so much faster than ours is right? Oh no wait, Japan’s economy hasn’t grown for 20 years, despite having the best broadband in the world: hmmm. I wonder if this scheme to spend $43B on the NBN (when we already have a $40B deficit this year) could be a beat up designed to pull the wool over our eyes? Nah… Labor don’t have a track record of promising more than they can deliver, do they?

      Btw I managed to dig up some exclusive footage of Gillard launching the NBN today~ even has a cameo by Latham as “Arsehole”.

    • Gregg says:

      04:58pm | 12/08/10

      Dave,
      Especially because you’re allowing yourself yo be ripped off to the tune of $4000/m and that seems just too ridiculous to be believable and there are lots of office interconnections to be made doesn’t necessarily mean all Australians will benefit.

      If KPG aor whoever have studied whatever, where’s the plan, the detail including costings and what people will pay.
      What are going to be annual maintenance costs etc.

      And as to your buildings you’re interconnecting, like businesses communicating to one another is nothing new and so what have they been doing to date and what is the magnificent new millions $$$$ system going to do for them and us.

      It’s a bit like the people who claim they cannot live without their mobile or blackberry or whatever or they feel naked walking out the door without one!
      What on earth do they think was happening twenty years ago when mobiles hardly existed.

      The NBN is all one big wank exercise.

    • My Name is Mud says:

      07:27am | 12/08/10

      That letter was the rightest thing I’ve read in ages.  I thought I’d say that on a blog.  Technology is the express lane to self-loathing.

    • TheRealDave says:

      07:45am | 12/08/10

      I am surprised the moron who wrote that letter had the time of strength to emerge from his cave to compose it. Shouldn’t he have been out hunting and gathering?

      Now excuse me, my mobile is ringing, I have a conference call with the board in Sydrenee in 10 minutes, I need to tweet this response and update my Facebook status…..oh.,..and download more pr0n…..

    • Housewife49 says:

      08:07am | 12/08/10

      Nice sly attempt at The Big Whopper there by Louis.

      The NBN plan funding is *not* wholly Fed funded, though he’s cutely tried to imply that it is. It suits Liberal whiners to try and pretend that.

      Under their creaking old monster of a “plan”, the amount of Gov contribuition isn’t too far different to the amount of Gov funding for a real high speed, high volume NBN.

      I see Colvin’s correspondent managed to face the world long enough to go out and buy manufactured paper, visit the post office, and buy a manufactrured stamp. Did he ride a bus to get to the shops? And how does he think the letter got delivered to Colvin? In a cleft stick, by a runner in loincloth and sandals?

      He’d be better off either learning to ignore things he doesn’t like and can’t alter, that or start taking the pills.

    • Realistnotaliberalwhiner says:

      12:14pm | 12/08/10

      To Housewife 49 and others, forget about the technicalities of ‘Broadband’ and ask yourself this simple question:
      “will giving Labor a mandate to spend 43 billion dollars on their ‘broadband rollout’ give us the system we need or will it be a 100+ billion dollar stuff-up ?”
      A clue: Research the history and cost of Labor stuff-ups over the past 50 years.

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      08:15am | 12/08/10

      I think if your going to release a policy or program that is going to cost the taxpayer at the very least $6 billion you should have at least a little understanding and at best be available for its release. I dont think I have EVER seen a political leader be missing in action when such a vast amount of money is to be spent. It was offensive to the Australian taxpayer plain and simple.

    • TimB says:

      09:11am | 12/08/10

      Is this anything like a comitting to $42 Billion NBN project with no business plan? Or a cost-benefit analysis?

      If offence can be measured by the amount of money, then you should agree that the Labor spruiked NBN is 7 times more offensive.

    • DocBud says:

      09:14am | 12/08/10

      A company board will assess spending on IT not on how it does something, but on whether or not it will deliver what is required at an appropriate cost. The IT dept will be held accountable for assessing products, presenting a case, specifying and implementing. I don’t see why it should be any different for government. What would be nice would be to see parties allow portfolio holders to develop policies, get them approved and then be responsible for presenting and delivering them, but politics is about getting into power, not doing anything when you get there.

      “I dont think I have EVER seen a political leader be missing in action when such a vast amount of money is to be spent.”

      You may be right, Kevvie was always there when announcing vast spends, he only went missing when it was necessary to expalin why so much taxpayer money was wasted or rorted.

    • Bob says:

      09:21am | 12/08/10

      Agree Mr Charteris it is extremely offensive that any politician could could be missing in action when such a vast amount of money is being spent - Julia where were you when $8 billion was wasted on school halls and canteens - the canteen in our town cost $24,000 a square metre and we can’t even fit the fridge in because the door is too narrow. The Canteen cost $600,000 plus a local offered to build if for $70,000, but everything was contracted to a huge overseas based company, there was no local stimulus

      why Julia Gillard hasn’t done the right and resigned for presiding over the most wasteful program this nation has every seen is beyond.

      And now the Labor party want us to believe that they can bring a $43 billion project on time and under budget - you must be dreaming.

      The most amusing thing is that the Gillard Government having supposedly built a high speed broadband network then wants to slow it down by put a dodgy internet filter on it - go figure ...

    • MarK says:

      09:59am | 12/08/10

      Hahahahahaha Rob.

      There were only 2 people involved in the NBN release. Rudd and Conroy.

      This will be ther biggest white elephant ever built.

      It will sure be nice to get my “100mbit” (yeh I will believe it when I see it and can afford it) connection but I ride around fine on a $7k motorbike although it would be better to do it in a $300k Mercedes I really don’t think the government should chip in the difference for me just because they had a thought bubble and a spare envelope to doodle on.

    • Rob r Charteris says:

      10:38am | 12/08/10

      TimB and Bob, $43 billion taxpayers money…. you sure about that??? you sure it’s not $26 billion and $20 billion private investment? now you haven’t been sucking in rAbbott’s spin now have you? surely not lol

      And gee bob didn’t see $8 billion wasted in the BER report, please point out in that report that figure exists. Considering the report stated there was an across the board blowout of 6 percent. That would make out your claiming the BER program was around the $100 billion mark… now i know you might not be an economic whiz kids, but I think your slightly over stating the case lol

    • MarK says:

      12:32pm | 12/08/10

      @Nik.

      I have read the rport (seriously)

      Please show me in the report, which was a second draft after the government rejected the first, where it actually says the NBN is worthehile.

      Anywhere.

      Thank you

    • Bob says:

      12:32pm | 12/08/10

      What you got nothing to say about the waste at Tottenham - for those not familar with it they can find a bit more out here
      http://www.dailyliberal.com.au/news/local/news/general/new-school-canteen-unusable/1836081.aspx

      As for the spin that only 2.7 percent of schools complained many many of the public schools in NSW were muzzled by the state govt - any principals who had legitimate complaints were told not to say anything. Only those with the strong support of their P & C’s and a bit of ticker about them had the courage to speak out about the massive $8 billion waste of money Gillards BER was.

      and as for your broadband caper we aren’t even getting out here ...

      and what the internet filter - no comment on that Mr Charteris ...

    • TimB says:

      01:03pm | 12/08/10

      I’m sorry Rob, here I am quoting the figure spplied constantly by the media (not Tony) when I should have been saying $26 Million.

      I shall now amend my original comment:

      “Is this anything like a comitting to $26 Billion NBN project with no business plan? Or a cost-benefit analysis?

      If offence can be measured by the amount of money, then you should agree that the Labor spruiked NBN is 4.3 times more offensive. “

      Oh look at that. My point still stands. You call Tony’s plan offensive but give a big tick to Julia’s more expensive plan. Explain that.

      And Niklaus, MarK is right, there’s nothing to show this will be worthwhile. I’m currently on a 24mbp ADSL 2+ connection, & I can do everything I want to do just fine. Watching videos, lag-free online gaming, downloading large files in mere minutes…

      Everyone says we need 100mbps to “compete” with overseas businesses. Can someone please tell me exactly what our businesses need to do at 100mpbs that they can’t do at current speeds? Something that would result in people taking their business to an overseas competitor.

    • TheRealDave says:

      01:13pm | 12/08/10

      @Tim

      And currently what are is your modem syncing at on that 24mb ADSL2 connection Tim? Whats your upload speed there Tim? Its nice when you can spout to IT clueless people you have a 24mb connection - when in actual fact you don’t - not even close.

      There’s a reason you can’t get anywhere near 24mb Tim - and its because of the copper running from your exchange to your house. Thats why NO-ONE can get near 24Mb on ADSL2. Replacing the copper with Fibre is the ONLY answer. No other technology can and will ever compete with Fibre - outside of a Star Trek episode.

    • TimB says:

      01:50pm | 12/08/10

      Dave, I’m well aware I’m not getting the full 24 mbps. I generally get about a third of that on average and have pushed it up to nearly half on a good day.

      Which proves my point all the more: I’m getting all my stuff done with a connection that doesn’t approach anywhere near the 100mbps being spruiked.

      I reiterate my original question: Please tell me why we need 100 mbps.

    • Technoprat says:

      08:22am | 12/08/10

      I live in the slow lane, even on line, but love most of the new technology. It’s the morons who use it that is the problem.  If all the new tech was used wisely, life would be a dream - but some of it has turned into a nightmare.

    • Battered Sav says:

      09:12am | 12/08/10

      Amish is crazy.

    • jim says:

      09:33am | 12/08/10

      As a Tech Geek, with all the latest HW from Apple. I don’t need a faster connection than what I have now.

      I would like the price to drop.

      Even the delay on AJAX is not internet speed issues, it’s with the server load.

      Who would, in their right mind pay an extra $40 per month to tweet faster or upload photos faster?

      If I need to download an open source program greater than 200mb, I manage my time to do this when I Sleep!

      Hence the NBN does not benefit me, and if it hits my pay packet… I’m living elsewhere.

      On the Contrary, it’s clearly obvious to the Liberal Party, the iPad and the iPhone is the future of communications.

      Thats why they’d much rather use the cash to enhance that infrastructure. This also explains why the iPhone 4 does not have the Antenna Gate problems like they do in the US

    • TheRealDave says:

      11:27am | 12/08/10

      See, you lost all credibility of claiming to be a tech ‘geek’ by saying you use Apple products.

      Apple products are specifically for people who have no idea as to how things work or do things for themselves - hence relying on locked down crippled products.

    • dale says:

      12:23pm | 12/08/10

      You need to upgrade the Fibre network for the wireless network to have any effect.

      If you think that you can have this big massive wireless network without a backbone you are crazy?

      And the speed will be good and well used. why download for 6 hours overnight what you could have in a few min?

      Digital streaming TV is being phased in, how will it work without a decent internet?

      GEEKS and NERDS use Linux not apple. Apple is for posers and “trendy” people

    • Gregg says:

      05:08pm | 12/08/10

      How about we ignore the geeks nerds, gerds, neeks, apples, posers and Linux as they probably comprise a minute % of users anyway and the greater majority just want something that works.
      You do afterall spend most time on the keys and whilst typing the connection speeds means SFA

    • laurie says:

      09:39am | 12/08/10

      Trying to leave the politics out of the issue, the need for the average taxpayer and homeowner to have high speed broadband   has not been established to me.  I dont download movies and virtually all legal things dont take long to download.  If business has a need for the service perhaps it should pay Bigpond or whoever for the service rather than the taxpayer paying for it and forcing home owners to be wired. My preference is for Wireless which is faster than adsl 1 (mine is .49 (point49) mbs which seems okay the wireless connection is point70 mbs. I think a market oriented approach would be better and lead to greater innovation. I dont particularly want to be connected to the NBN and would probably opt out.
      The NBN seems to be boys playing with toys with public money.

    • Niklaus says:

      09:58am | 12/08/10

      Tony Abbott is perfectly able to reel off figures on the economy, and memorise reports about Labor’s handling of the BER. The least he could do is to familiarise himself with his own communications policy. It’s not so much about him knowing a lot about telecommunications, it’s more about him not bothering to get briefed on an important part of infrastructure for this country.

      Honestly, if Governments continue to go on and not invest in infrastructure, we’re going to wake up 20 years down the track and realise all the money from the mining boom is gone, and we’ve got nothing to show for it.

      I still love to receive letters, by the way.

    • Mayday says:

      11:04am | 12/08/10

      Business should pay for faster internet if that’s what they need.
      As a taxpayer and occasional down loader I am very happy with the existing speed of my wireless network.

      My son informed me he wants the NBN simply to play video games with people in Japan!  At $40 billion plus that’s a very expensive game play for taxpayer, once explained he realised it was a silly response.  Japan is smaller geographically with higher densities of population, we are a huge landmass, we still don’t have road and rail in all our populated areas so comparing the two isn’t practical.

      Technology changes rapidly, putting all our eggs in one basket is dumb.
      A mix of technologies is more secure and gives us options for change as these new technologies become cheaper.

    • TheRealDave says:

      11:53am | 12/08/10

      What you should have asked is WHY we need a Fibre to the Home broadband upgrade across the country. Not saying this plan is better - because its clear you have no idea.

      You know nothing of broadband networks but state Wireless is fine and that the best solution is a hodge podge of old conflicting communications methods all sitting on underlying up to 50 year old copper. Thats your position is it?

      But please allow me to retort, as an IT Expert who does this for a living for near 2 decades now.

      Technology does change rapidly. To wit - the up to 50 year old copper pairs running to every house and business in the country. To say that VisionStream use bush mechanic repairs is not an exaggeration. The joys of Privatising Telstra - because business will always look after its customers right? Thats the whole Liberal Party spiel isn’t it?

      If you knew anything about technology you’d know Fibre is the ONLY way to go. Copper, Wireless, Cable, Powerline, Satellite - doesn’t even come close to Fibre. Fibre runs at the speed of light - because thats what it is. Nothing comes near it. Technology may change but those fibre connections will be in use for many many decades to come. If you hear anyone preaching Wireless or copper or HFC cable as a real alternative you can immediately write them off as clueless or someone selling that product.

      Having a mixture of outdated obsolete technologies is stupid. Not dumb - stupid. Pouring $6 or 8 billion into improving Telstra’s backhaul for them is stupid. While the ‘Last Mile’ is copper any money you throw at other technologies, improving backhaul etc is pissing money into the wind. Thats why no industry people are backing the Coalition plan…well..not the ones who aren’t selling Wireless, Copper and HFC solutions that is wink

      Already the NBN Co are announcing that they will be deploying 1000Mb connections - which will run fine on Fibre right now. When do you expect wireless to deliver your 1000mb up/down? If you can actually get a signal that doesn’t drop out with regular monotony?

    • SkepDad says:

      11:28am | 12/08/10

      10 years ago we had modems and Geocities was the pinnacle of online tech.  20 years ago we had to squint at a green screen in a university if we wanted to use email or what passed for the internet.

      All 3 major parties are quite right to be looking strategically at the next 10 or 20 years.  Those of you who babble the “it’s alright for me now” line are not taking the same long term view. 

      Labor’s fibre to the premises plan is strategically sound at a technical level, but is subject to the waste and nepotism that characterises every Labor initiative.  The Liberal “policy” is more about accessing the NBN’s war chest to buy the election in other portfolios, with an afterthought trimmed-down broadband strategy.  However, fibre to the node with the local last-mile appropriate to local conditions is not a bad start.

      Whatever happens at the election, the ALP and Coalition would be wise to insert someone who understands and is passionate about the nerd portfolio.  The Greens already have Ludlam - perhaps a Ludlam-Lundy-Turnbull triumvirate might actually result in some educated progress.  Conjob and Burke proved at this week’s debate that they are the wrong people for the job.

    • Nathan says:

      01:20pm | 12/08/10

      The coalitions idea for the “future” of broadband is just more of what we already have now. Some people will have fast and reliable internet, and others will not - simply for being a few clicks away from their local exchange. I’m not even talking about rural Australia - there are so many blackspots and “rim” areas where Australians have a mere fraction of the speed of the rest of the nation. Broadband is more than just entertainment - it has become an important communication medium, and is quickly overtaking many distribution methods in all forms of media. Newspapers, Books, Music, Movies, TV, to name a few. Should all of these only be available to a fraction of the population? In 10 year’s time it will become the primary means of distribution so it makes sense that all of Australia has acceptable levels of access. Remember the “Information Superhighway”? It’s about time we get on it.

      Abbot’s plan of delivering 12mbit peak will already be out-dated by the time it comes into play. So what is more wasteful, a National broadband Network to last generations, or Abbot’s bandaide broadband that will be obsolete before it’s even rolled out?

    • The Badger says:

      03:11pm | 12/08/10

      A man with a watch knows what time it is.
      A man with two watches is never sure.

    • David Biem says:

      11:28am | 12/08/10

      Mark K, I don’t think you’re quite correct. I don’t believe that Rudd & Conroy are the instigators they’re just influenced by the greedy internet & telco barons who having capitalised on deregulation & easy access to public infrastructure, are now hoping to expand their lucrative markets subsidised by the public purse. Don’t misunderstand me, competition & privatisation have been good for the IT&T industry & the market, but we should thoroughly understand any proposed developments before making a commitment to proceed. Govts might pander to a populist theme, but shouldn’t we have been presented with the results of an effective Needs Analysis & Feasibility Study first? When has the Technology, Economic, Operational, Timeline, Cultural aspects etc ever been discussed in sufficient detail for us to provide informed consent? I’d like to be told more than “You’ll have increased bandwidth over fibre with greater linespeed of 100Mbs”. For a project touted as being “...bigger than the Snowy Mountains Scheme” the apparent lack of planning is deplorable!

    • Super D says:

      11:45am | 12/08/10

      I’ve got Telstra cable and recently upgraded the speed from 10mbps to 30mbps and have yet to notice it for the overwhelming majority of what I do.  A small portion involve moving some pretty big databases around but still the speed boost hasn’t changed my life.  The only need for the speeds being advocated by the government for the average citizen is high definition video and entertainment.  VOIP and basic video conferencing such as Skype don’t need anywhere near this much bandwidth.

      I think to really understand the debate you need to identify the groups whop benefit most from the NBN.  I would list them as

      1. Techheads - nerds who think more tech is good no matter what the cost, they don’t get out much so have little use for other services.
      2. Media and entertainment providers who can build “better” products off the back of ubiquitous broadband
      3. Progressives - they’ve yet to see a revolution they don’t like, so “Broadband Revolution” was all it took to get them on board, same as “Building the Education Revolution”

      Most people who surf the internet and have an attention span that lasts more than 20 minutes can be patient with their big downloads.

      Another factor is that as I said I’m on 30Mbps with Telstra cable.  If someone offered me a reliable service at 100Mbps for a comparable download limit and a similar price I’d move to it whether it was fibre, another cable, wireless or satelite - just as if one day there is a wireless service offering 20000Mbps at a competitive price the NBN won’t have a chance.

    • Nathan says:

      02:37pm | 12/08/10

      I love how you start your argument saying you have 30mbps cable. If everyone in Australia could get that then yes, the NBN would be a pointless exercise. You clearly need a wider perspective on the issue before ranting.

    • stephen says:

      11:47am | 12/08/10

      I only get annoyed with technology when it plays up.
      Takes too long to fix, when there’s no other way ter pay yer bills.
      Hang on a minute….

    • jb says:

      02:41pm | 12/08/10

      Well I would actually like for someone to give me faster wifi.
      Plus what are the jobs we are losing to Korea, Singapore and Japan?

    • Tinman says:

      02:46pm | 12/08/10

      Least your letter writer proves beyond doubt that there is intelligent life out there.

    • bullokie says:

      03:52pm | 12/08/10

      See, if this guy was online, he’d know that Blendtec have in fact invented the blender that he so desires; perfect for liquefying all manner of mobile phones.
      See: willitblend.com
      The irony…

    • The Shaking Head says:

      05:24pm | 12/08/10

      Lovely letter. 
      Work forces me to be attached at all times, my life is no longer my own despite the company magazine’s sympathetic but phoney work/life balance articles.  It all seemed so magical and modern I was easily trapped.  When I am released from my digital servitude at 67 I will see how stupid I was to have traded the gift of life on earth for apps with fancy graphics that told me what do and when .

    • Ryan says:

      05:59pm | 12/08/10

      Well imagine the moron running the NBN having less of a clue about technology than our actual leaders. A classic quote to show just how incompetent that fool is.. “There’s a staggering number of Australians being in having their computers infected at the moment, up to twenty thousand aaaaahhhhh can regularly be infected by these aaaahhh spams or scams that come through the portal”
      The quote would be hilarious and gold if it weren’t so shocking that this fool has less than no clue about technology that he is in charge of.

    • dead to me says:

      07:40pm | 12/08/10

      If the government can’t get the insulation policy right and has created the 1st generation of un-employed doctors, can we really believe they can get the national broadband network and rail systems right? Really can we trust Gillard to spend, spend , spend and produce results or spend, spend, spend and create debt?

    • Housewife49 says:

      12:22pm | 16/08/10

      Nice try, pet.
      As Policies, the insulation and education building intiatives were both right.

      We know that.

      Good policies rorted and skimped a bit by private enterprise, despite the best efforts at checking. But in 10 years time we’ll still have better schools and better insulated homes.

      Its really very naughty indeed to keep on pretending that everything our government spent was wasted. Thats just a big fib, pet, and you know it.

 

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