Looks like men are going to be OK. Some panic merchants were putting it about that the Y chromosome would eventually just pack it in, leaving Earth to the females of the species – but new research has shored up the future of the males.


Even though the Y has shrunk from 1400 genes to just 45, it’s got a fairly solid base. And even if the little guy responsible for turning boys into men does shuffle off this DNA coil, apparently men can be men without all of the men bits. Fascinating!

But revisiting comments such as those from Oxford University genetics professor Bryan Sykes – who in 2003 declared men would likely be extinct within 125,000 and that one ‘radical’ solution would be to let them go – did make me prematurely nostalgic for the days of men.

Here is an entirely non-exhaustive list of the things I would miss*.

1. Man smells. Sure, some man smells are rank. There’s a changeroom in the Adelaide parklands that smells like a goat urinated on the rotting carcass of a carrion flower. But there are many man smells I love. A freshly soaped man, a newly shaven face, and random smells you catch walking down a street that remind you of past loves. Confession time: I even like the way some men’s sweat smells.  I’m probably going to wish I didn’t write that.

2. Chest hair. I know waxing and buffing and polishing and exfoliating is all the rage, but I like a pelt you can run your fingers through. Gimme a good whorl over hairless any day. And man hands. On men.

3. Male friendship. Sometimes it’s just simpler.

4. Men’s stores of esoteric knowledge. This is probably a nurture rather than a nature thing, but many men gather extremely practical knowledge on their path to manhood. Not just changing tyres, but how to manoeuvre furniture through tricky angles, how to fix things, how not to blow yourself up with gas canisters. I wonder whether this will pass as more girls are taught the practicalities of life from a young age.

5. Simple, stupid, rude jokes. I know some chicks with decent stores of fart jokes (or farts, for that matter), but on the whole men seem to be better at hoarding and releasing terrible punchlines.

6. Solutions. As a habitual overcomplicator, I love when a man uncomplicates things. Example:

Me: Oh shit. We need to leave now and there’s a stain on my shirt and I don’t have anything else clean and my hair looks like crap but I don’t even know how to style it and we’re already going to be late but we need to pick up a bottle of booze and that chick who always looks me up and down will be there sneering all night and if we don’t go now we’ll miss all the people who have to go home early to put the kids to bed and…

Bloke: Stick on a brooch and a hat and regift the bottle of bubbles in the fridge. 

7. Sex with men. Well, it had to go in somewhere. No pun intended.

On the bright side, the eradication of men would mean no more Two and a Half Men… wouldn’t it?

* Yes, these are all sweeping generalisations. Yes, it’s probably a bit sexist. No, I don’t care.

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    • Emma says:

      05:49am | 23/02/12

      Sigh. Its early, terrible weather and I am at work. You made me want to wish I was still cuddled up in bed, with my head safely on a man’s chest. Simple things.

    • Bill says:

      10:04am | 23/02/12

      Terrible weather? Where are you? It’s bright sunshine, blue skies and low 20s here in St Kilda.

    • Emma says:

      10:24am | 23/02/12

      Wellington

    • patsy says:

      10:36am | 23/02/12

      @Emma-Wellington near Dubbo or Wellington NZ?

    • Emma says:

      10:44am | 23/02/12

      NZ

    • SalC says:

      11:04am | 23/02/12

      It’s terrible weather too in Brisbane. Not everyone comes from Melbourne.
      And yes Emma, I echo your sentiment.

    • Kheiron says:

      11:56am | 23/02/12

      For Rent.
      One broad, hairy man chest. Available for snuggling, rubbing and producing static on balloons.
      Comes with large supply of fart jokes as optional extra.

      Inquire within.

    • BJ says:

      06:12am | 23/02/12

      It is strange how all of the women who hate Two and a Half Men loved Sex and the City.

    • KH says:

      06:52am | 23/02/12

      No, a lot of us can’t stand either of them.

    • Redeker Plan says:

      07:36am | 23/02/12

      Nope, sorry to burst the stereotype bubble, but they’re both shit.  I hate Sex and the City more, in that I would happily blind myself rather than watch it, whilst I can tolerate 2 and a 1/2 Men if it’s on in the background.  But they’re both shit.

    • Nathan Explosion says:

      09:00am | 23/02/12

      Can’t stand either of them. Although I do like the bloke that was on Sex and the City who was in Law and Order. Not sure of his name but he plays Detective Logan.

    • Craig says:

      09:52am | 23/02/12

      @Redeker: Why blind yourself? You’d still have to listen to it. Better solution is to burst your eardrums. You can always close your eyes.

    • iMitchy says:

      11:01am | 23/02/12

      @Nathan, his name is Chris Noth.

      And two and a half men is pretty damn funny. I haven’t seen any of the Ashton Kutcher ones yet though.

    • Fiona says:

      11:07am | 23/02/12

      Don’t like either of them. I think that theory will be disproved easily.

    • Wynston Cruso says:

      11:18am | 23/02/12

      They are both just…. terrible. To claim anyone likes them is unsulting. iMitchy I usually respect your opinion so I’ll pretend you didn’y say that. Let us never speak of this again.

    • amy says:

      11:20am | 23/02/12

      I hate both…go figure

      also a few weeks ago there was this movie on called “The Women” it was some horrible parody of xx chromozome holders…just awful

    • M says:

      06:17am | 23/02/12

      You forgot to add that all the good sports would disapear overnight.

      Soccer, Rugby, Cricket, Motorsports, Basket Ball, Gridiron, all replaced with tennis, netball and volleyball.

      Joy.

    • Emma says:

      06:40am | 23/02/12

      I would only miss the sports for the eye candy.

    • Tim says:

      06:48am | 23/02/12

      It’s not that the good sports would disappear, its that all the players would become woefully un-coordinated overnight.

    • KH says:

      06:53am | 23/02/12

      Yes, but if there were no men, who would care?  Bwahahahahaha

    • M says:

      07:03am | 23/02/12

      @ Tim, same thing isn’t it?

    • Russ Grigg says:

      07:03am | 23/02/12

      What the hell is eye candy???
      Another term used by the non-Australian, America worshippers?
      The language of Australia is English. If you want to be a Seppo, please leave.
      Don’t force you stupid leanings onto us, “Fair dinkum, Bloody beauty, Ripper Bottler Boomerang, dinky-di Aussies.

    • Emma says:

      07:17am | 23/02/12

      Russ Grigg

      Just because some terms are not part of your personal vocabulary doesnt mean they are not existent in Australia. Maybe it just means your vocabulary is a bit narrow?

      And I am European, not American, but thanks for making me welcome in what is not “your” country.

    • Erick says:

      07:21am | 23/02/12

      @Russ Grigg - Dude, don’t be such a downer.

    • marley says:

      07:45am | 23/02/12

      @Russ Grigg - so far as I’m aware, the term “eye candy” is a follow on to the term “Ear Candy,” the title of a Helen Reddy LP.  made in the 70s.  I’d say the term is as Australian as it is English.  And by the way, just so you know, Australians don’t speak English English any more than Americans do.

    • Smidgeling says:

      08:15am | 23/02/12

      “....us, Fair dinkum, Bloody beauty, Ripper Bottler Boomerang, dinky-di Aussies. “

      I assume you mean you, Russ. I would rather hang myself than use language like that.

    • TChong says:

      08:15am | 23/02/12

      C’mon Eck,
      your getting all defensive about your Yankism - step up to the plate.  wink,
      ( also unfair to Russ to link him to alex)
      Marley, Aussies speak Australian english, NZedders - kiwi english, Canadians -Canadian english etc etc
      All good , all show “English ” the most marvellously adaptable, variated of languages.
      No wonder it is the worlds premier language.
      “Speak english , or die ” (  an unofficial motto of US forces, as sported on T shirts)

    • subotic says:

      08:41am | 23/02/12

      @TChong, technically, Australians speak Strine, Kiwis speak shit, and who listens to bloody Canadians anyway….

    • marley says:

      08:54am | 23/02/12

      @Tchong - of course, that was exactly my point.  I’ve lived in the UK Canada, Australia, and India, spent time in South Africa, New Zealand and the US, and have enjoyed the variants on English in all these places, and the influence they have on one another.  I even like Newfie English. Australian English isn’t some pristine language preserved in formaldehyde for all time.  It’s going to change and adapt, as all the other English variants have done.  And there’s not a damn thing wrong with an Australian using the term “eye candy.”

    • Sam says:

      08:57am | 23/02/12

      I want lollies
      I want lollies
      I want lollies
      I want lollies

      Sorry dude, doesn’t work. walks away singing.  “I want candy.”

    • Erick says:

      09:02am | 23/02/12

      @TChong - Don’t be so xenophobic! smile

    • Blackadder says:

      09:02am | 23/02/12

      Oh dear Lord…that would mean 100% of tennis matches would have riotous squealing/screaming/grunting with no variety/tactics in play styles. Farewell tennis…it was nice knowing you.

    • Wynston Cruso says:

      11:23am | 23/02/12

      Badminton. There, I said it.

      Also don’t be too hard on the female basketballers, there is one who can dunk it right? Except not with a ball, and only if no one is watching.

    • amy says:

      11:34am | 23/02/12

      or even better no sports on TV at all! yay!

      @Russ Grigg…youre fighting a losing battle,  since pretty 90% if our entertainment comes from america…no one talks like that

      its frech fries and “the mall” now

    • Angry_Of_Mayfair says:

      12:06pm | 23/02/12

      @Russ - I’m with you on this, mate! Candy, ass, ZEE - more Seppo drivel being foisted on us and, more disturbingly, absorbed by people who don’t care! Even though I don’t use most of the Ocker/Strine colloquialisms you’ve listed, it warms my heart to hear them still spattered through our vocabulary.

    • Zen says:

      01:38pm | 23/02/12

      @Erick, Xenophobic?, no need to bring politics into this.

    • Erick says:

      06:52am | 23/02/12

      It was pretty obvious from the beginning that the “disappearing Y chromosome” theory was a crock. The vast majority of multicellular species on this planet have two distinct sexes (though some can readily change from one to the other). Such evolutionary convergence doesn’t exist without cause.

      One of the interesting things about the Y chromosome is that it contains genetic information which is unique to men. All men have both an X and a Y chromosome, but no woman has a Y. This means that only men have complete copies of the entire human genome. Make of that what you will.

      As if in balance, only women transfer their mitochondrial DNA to future generations. So we have in effect two separate lines of genetic propagation, each unique to half the species. Interesting possibilities there.

      Another interesting thought is the fact that the human genome differs only slightly from the chimpanzee genome. I don’t know how many codons are involved, but it’s possible that the genetic differences between women and men might be larger than those between humans and chimpanzees.

      Genetics is a science that will reveal many things in the near future. Some people will be taken by surprise.

    • stephen says:

      07:40am | 23/02/12

      If men have complete copies of the human genome, does that mean we, men, are not specialists ?
      Isn’t that like saying the stomach has the complete range of bacteria, when we know that it is only the good bacteria which is not harmful ?
      The specialization of attributes may be the saviour of a Type.
      And I agree with your last sentence of the first paragraph, that there is a cause for mutations, but isn’t that the point, that we respond to the prevailing conditions via evolutionary change and that it s not the range of developments that is important, but the uses of particular genes ?

    • MarkS says:

      08:14am | 23/02/12

      There are about 23,000 protein coding genes in the human genome, which are about 1.5% of the total. Much of the rest used to be called “junk DNA” but it has become clear that much of it does perform important functions.

      Chimp DNA has a divergence from human DNA of about 1%. Even if we just worry about coding DNA, the 45 genes on the Y chromosome represent .2%.  So no, the genetic differences between chimps & any human being are far greater than that between human males & females. 

      What I find interesting about people having two X chromosomes, beside the obvious is that only one X chromosome is active in any cell, the other is inactive. Which one in humans is random, so that all human females are in fact a chimera of two cells lines with different active DNA.

      Explains a lot really. If your girlfriend ever appears to be two people, it is because she is.

    • Direct says:

      08:37am | 23/02/12

      @Erick, thanks for your comment. Just another example of an article where the comments are better than the article.

      @Stephen, you’ve taken pedestalising women to whole new level with that comment.

    • Dr. Dep says:

      09:20am | 23/02/12

      The real interest in chimp vs human differences is not so much about how closely the DNA matches but how the genes within that DNA are expressed. There’s was a study published last year (can’t remember who did it) that demonstrated that the difference between gene expression in certain organs between chimps and humans was in the 12%-18% range. It’s like having the same bible but interpreting it differently (terrible analogy but I haven’t had coffee yet).

    • Erick says:

      10:17am | 23/02/12

      @stephen - One very important aspect of genes is which ones are expressed, as Dr Dep pointed out. Men carry the genetic code needed to make a womb, but it isn’t expressed as a womb. Instead, we have a male reproductive system. That works for other things as well.

      @MarkS - Thank you very much for that information! I’ve wanted to know those numbers for a while, but I didn’t know where to look. One-fifth of the genetic difference between a human and a chimp is still quite a lot.

      @Dr Dep - Thanks also for that contribution. Do you know the relevant numbers for men and women?

    • Erick says:

      11:12am | 23/02/12

      @Kika - Don’t quit your day job. A psychiatrist you are not.

    • Kika says:

      12:45pm | 23/02/12

      Erick - you are an idiot. There’s no genetic difference between the sexes. There’s an absence of the Y chromosome in women. That’s the only difference. You carry as much mitochondria as I do. Mitochondria is a base for all genes in everyone. You can’t test genes for sex! The only way to tell the difference between the s-exes is in bones - pelvis, forehead. You carry X chromosomes and Y chromosomes in sperm. So IF the se-xes were evenly split, how could men create X chromosome sperm???? TWIT.

    • Scotchfinger says:

      01:10pm | 23/02/12

      @Erick, you asked someone where they got their information on human genetics. May I respectfully suggest you query the main source for any self-respecting scientist, a ‘text-book’? Such a book would make nonsense of your claims, as opposed to a L Ron Hubbard sci-fi book. Human embryos alternate between male and female; they do not in fact alternate between chimpanzee and human (although they look similar during development).  So how do you demonstrate there is more likeness between a man and a chimp, than between a man and a woman?

      PS the vast majority of biota on the planet are prokaryotes, that is asexual.

    • MarkS says:

      01:30pm | 23/02/12

      @Kika
      I am afraid you are a little confused. The absence or presence of a Y chromosome means that there is a small genetic difference in the nuclear DNA.

      Mitochondria are not part of the nuclear DNA, they are a part of cells that is evolved in energy production. They have their own DNA. They are not involved in sexual reproduction as such. Every persons mitochondria comes from the mothers egg with no sexual mixing of genes. Mitochondria are not the base of all genes for everybody.

      @Erick
      Only 1/5 if you ignore the non-coding DNA, they are important. Furthermore I am not sure how much of the Y chromosome is non-coding, got the 45 from the article above. May well be comparing apples & oranges. Got the numbers mainly from Wikipedia.

      Also Dr Dep is right; the real difference is expression of the genes not the genes themselves. All vertebrates are similar in DNA; the expression is the main difference.

    • Scotchfinger says:

      01:46pm | 23/02/12

      @MarkS,

      I think Kika is referring to Ericks inference that men and women are analogous to distinct species, which is not correct. Also, she pointed out that the existence of mitochondrial DNA makes no difference whether in a man or a woman. Ergo, she proves Eric’s wild claims are erroneous. She sounds less ‘confused’ than yourself.

    • Kika says:

      02:09pm | 23/02/12

      No, all cells have a mitochondrial base. Your mother passes on mitichondria in the womb. I don’t have any more or less mitichondria than a man because I am female. I am a human.

      “In cell biology, a mitochondrion (plural mitochondria) is a membrane-enclosed organelle found in most eukaryotic cells.[1] These organelles range from 0.5 to 1.0 micrometer (?m) in diameter. Mitochondria are sometimes described as “cellular power plants” because they generate most of the cell’s supply of adenosine triphosphate (ATP), used as a source of chemical energy.[2] In addition to supplying cellular energy, mitochondria are involved in a range of other processes, such as signaling, cellular differentiation, cell death, as well as the control of the cell cycle and cell growth.[3] Mitochondria have been implicated in several human diseases, including mitochondrial disorders[4] and cardiac dysfunction,[5] and may play a role in the aging process”

      @MarkS - yes. But very very slight. The splitting of the chromosomes is a very interesting part of biology, especially where you have men that are XYY or or XXY and visa versa. On the outside you may appear completely male or female but carry an additional se-x chromosome which can affect your biological construct as well. Hermaphrodites are the classic example.

      Dr Erick - please advise how you can tell whether someone is indeed a hermaphrodite from looking a their gene sequences.

      Erick - don’t quite your day job. Stick to sociology. Leave science to scientists.

    • Kika says:

      02:15pm | 23/02/12

      Let me also add..

      “An individual’s mitochondrial genes are not inherited by the same mechanism as nuclear genes. At fertilization of an egg cell by a sperm, the egg nucleus and sperm nucleus each contribute equally to the genetic makeup of the zygote nucleus. In contrast, the mitochondria, and therefore the mitochondrial DNA, usually comes from the egg only. The sperm’s mitochondria enter the egg but do not contribute genetic information to the embryo.[82] **Instead, paternal mitochondria are marked with ubiquitin to select them for later destruction inside the embryo.[83]***

      The egg cell contains relatively few mitochondria, but it is these mitochondria that survive and divide to populate the cells of the adult organism. Mitochondria are, therefore, in most cases inherited down the female line, known as maternal inheritance. This mode is seen in most organisms including all animals. However, mitochondria in some species can sometimes be inherited paternally. This is the norm among certain coniferous plants, although not in pine trees and yew trees.[84] It has been suggested that it occurs at a very low level in humans.[85]”

      SPERM HAVE MITOCHONDRIA TOO. ERICK.

    • Erick says:

      02:23pm | 23/02/12

      @Kika - “Mitochondria is a base for all genes in everyone.”

      What? You don’t even know what that means, do you?

      “You can’t test genes for sex! The only way to tell the difference between the s-exes is in bones - pelvis, forehead.”

      Sigh.

      @Scotchfinger - “Human embryos alternate between male and female; they do not in fact alternate between chimpanzee and human (although they look similar during development).  So how do you demonstrate there is more likeness between a man and a chimp, than between a man and a woman?”

      You didn’t understand one thing I wrote, did you? Go to remedial reading class.

    • Scotchfinger says:

      02:38pm | 23/02/12

      @ Eric,
      ‘it’s possible that the genetic differences between women and men might be larger than those between humans and chimpanzees’. I am quoting you verbatim. You may regret writing it, but you did actually write it. We can both have a laugh now and wonder which movie you were confusing with genetic science, ‘Planet of the Apes’ perhaps?

    • Kika says:

      02:56pm | 23/02/12

      @Erick - Well come on. You didn’t read mine either, did you? Tit for tat.

      Your whole point was that SCIENCE WILL REVEAL THAT MEN AND WOMEN ARE SO GENETICALLY DIFFERENT THAT THE GAPS BETWEEN CHIMPS AND MEN WILL BE FOUND TO BE SMALLER. Right?  You are trying to say that women are lacking in the human genome department because we lack the Y chromosome?

      LOL. Our MALE fathers gave us an X chromosome instead! We’re completely human. Don’t worry. And ALL Our mothers gave us mitochondria. If we didn’t, we wouldn’t be alive. And like I pointed out SPERM has mitichondria except it dies off in the embryo, leaving only the maternally inherited mitochondria.

      HERMAPHRODITE. What are they?

    • marley says:

      03:02pm | 23/02/12

      I’m having a bit of trouble getting my head wrapped around Kika’s statement that there’s no genetic difference between the sexes.  As I understand it, the Y chromosome carries genes not found on the X chromosome, so one would have to assume that would constitute a genetic difference.

      And then there’s the fact that women have a double set of X chromosomes, and that the inactive set is not in fact totally inactive after all, or so I understand.  That means women have a double dose of some genes compared to a man.

      And while differences in the bone structure are certainly one way to ascertain sex, I would have thought it would also be rather easy to identify who is a male and who is a female by looking at whether they have XY or XX chromosomes.

    • Scotchfinger says:

      03:22pm | 23/02/12

      @ Marley, common enough mistake. In fact it is only the gametes (eggs or sperm) that have distinct xx or xy chromosomes. Note I am on tricky ground as it has been a while since I studied biology. I am more than willing to be corrected by a genuine expert, however these are in short supply aren’t they Eric *wink*

    • subotic says:

      03:36pm | 23/02/12

      Caps on for complete sentences.

      There’s a special gift right there….

    • marley says:

      03:54pm | 23/02/12

      @scotchfinger:  I don’t think that’s right.  Every human cell contains 23 pairs of chromosomes, the 23rd being the XX or XY chromosome.  The gametes only contain 23 single chromosomes, so the 23rd is either an X or a Y, but not a double.  It’s when the two pair up that we get XX or XY, and all the bodies cells replicate that original pairing.

    • Scotchfinger says:

      04:16pm | 23/02/12

      @Marley, perhaps you are right, sounds vaguely familiar. I’ll drag out the texts tonight after work. cheers

    • Kika says:

      05:28pm | 23/02/12

      @Marley - yes. There is a ‘genetic difference’ but it’s very slight. We’re talking in comparison to Erick’s wild claim that a man is closer to an ape than he is to a woman. We’re talking negligble difference in the individual genes if we’re using that as a yardstick, right?  But I’ll get the specific information from my Microbiologist sister about whether you can easily identify from looking at an entire human genome (i.e. again ERICK’s approach) whether you can tell it’s a male or a female. I was responding to Erick.

      @Bella Starkey - Oh I know what a hermaphrodite is… I was asking Erick to explain how he can identify one from the human genome and where they fit in chromosomally if there is a such a gap between the genders that an ape is closer to a man than a woman is. I wanted Erick to first explain hermaphrodism to me and then explain where they fit in with his theory.

    • Scotchfinger says:

      05:47pm | 23/02/12

      Marley, you are correct and I am wrong!  Scary how much I have forgotten…

    • marley says:

      06:16pm | 23/02/12

      @scotchfinger - I know the feeling.  I’ve forgotten more than I care to admit, and will blithely make a comment, be challenged, and then have to go back and double check. This time I was right, but there’ve been lots of times when I haven’t been.

    • Scotchfinger says:

      08:05pm | 23/02/12

      Ha ha thanks Marley.
      Wittgenstein: ‘Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent’.
      Although I did a science degree a long time ago…

    • Erick says:

      04:12am | 24/02/12

      @Kika & Scotchfinger - You have no idea what you’re talking about. Also, you have no idea what I’m talking about.

      Try to understand the meaning of the word “possible”. Also, learn some basic genetics.

    • Dr. Dep says:

      09:12am | 24/02/12

      I think everyone got a little caught up in the “he said, she said” of this argument. Let’s take a step back to some facts (my PhD is in Genetics and Microbiology so I’m feeling pretty confident in my statements here).

      1. As far as we know, mitochondrial DNA is inherited through the mother. There has been a single documented case where it was paternally inherited…..and it didn’t turn out well.

      2. Men have an XY chromosome set-up and women have an XX set-up. The X-chromosomes in women come from 2 sources. The first is from their mother and the second is from their father (or if you think about it their grandmother on their fathers side).

      3. The only thing that makes males, males is the Y chromosome. There are, of course, many documented cases of abnormal set-ups that include XXY or XYY chromosome set-ups (even XXYY and XXX). However, at the genetic level, if there is a Y chromosome in an individuals make up then they are genetically male.

      @Kika, now I know you are wondering about hermaphrodites and I bring up my original point. The EXPRESSION of the genes is the important part here; NOT the genes themselves. This is how hermaphrodites come to be. Any combination of chromosome set-up is capable of producing some form of hermaphrodite through the mis-expression of genes or from developmental problems in the uterus.

    • Mahhrat says:

      06:53am | 23/02/12

      Erick, would you like to list the seven things you’d miss about women were they to become extinct?

    • Emma says:

      07:19am | 23/02/12

      I so want to see this. Please!!!

    • Erick says:

      07:25am | 23/02/12

      @Mahhrat - Hmm, that’s a tough one. Let’s see ...

      1. Boobies
      2. Tits
      3. Knockers
      4. Bosoms
      5. Chesticles
      6. Funbags
      7. Hooters

      I’m sure there must be more ... wink

    • M says:

      07:28am | 23/02/12

      I’ll list my own if you like.

      1. Sex.
      2. Erm…
      3. Um.
      4. Ah…
      5. Ah-hem…
      6. Hmm..
      7. Germaine Greer?

    • tren says:

      08:13am | 23/02/12

      well said….. I am a staunch supporter of erick (and David Forster on googleplus for what its worth) so I would love to hear what he has to say on this…. we could invoke a polite counterpunch, erick being a past contributor before???

    • SimonFromLakemba says:

      08:27am | 23/02/12

      Well porn would be a bit hard to watch :(

    • Rick of the Dustbowl says:

      08:47am | 23/02/12

      Things I’d miss about women…................I’ll get back to you

    • Jason says:

      08:51am | 23/02/12

      Erick

      My blow up doll has those 7. And a fair replacement too. And doesn’t talk - so cannot really complain.  So on to Number 8.  Down below and behind doesn’t feel the same though. I think need to up the temperature.

    • Erick says:

      09:00am | 23/02/12

      @Emma & Tren - My previous list was a bit tongue-in-cheek.

      I’ve been thinking about what my real list would look like, and that needs some more consideration. It isn’t something I can just knock together on the spur of the moment like my normal comments.

      If there’s a lot of interest, I might see what I can do ... but I wouldn’t necessarily be able to finish it today. There are many things to take into consideration, and it isn’t something I’ve thought about before.

    • tren says:

      09:19am | 23/02/12

      looking forward to it Erick!

    • M says:

      09:24am | 23/02/12

      I’ve got one. Happy ending massages. It’d be a bit weird with a bloke doing it. Although Andrej Pejic could make a killing if he wore a nice skirt and some heels.

    • Antifeminist One says:

      10:00am | 23/02/12

      While I suppose it’s fun for each sex to come up with our own lists of what we’d miss if the other died off, the reality is that men won’t have to face this problem because we can simply invent something to solve it.

    • KH says:

      10:12am | 23/02/12

      Men would also be extinct so he wouldn’t be here to miss women.  Unless you have come up with a way to gestate now…................

    • Erick says:

      10:29am | 23/02/12

      @KH - We already have artificial sperm. The artificial womb is being worked on, and is probably only a few years away.

      As far as reproduction is concerned, continued technological progress means both men and women will not be needed.

    • Kika says:

      10:44am | 23/02/12

      Were you not breastfed as a child Erick? I’m putting my Freudian hat on again today.

    • subotic says:

      10:45am | 23/02/12

      7 things about women I wouldn’t MISS….

      1. Miss Welfare Abuser
      2. Miss Entitled
      3. Miss Bicycle Pants
      4. “Miss” Cougar
      5. Miss Label Girl
      6. Miss Empowered
      7. Miss Deluded Feminist

    • amy says:

      11:27am | 23/02/12

      @subotic

      whats “Label Girl” and “empowered” suposed to mean?

    • subotic says:

      12:49pm | 23/02/12

      @amy “whats (sic) “Label Girl” and “empowered” supposed (sic) to mean?”

      Label Girl = Label this, Label that. If it’s been seen on a reality show or the red carpet in the past five minutes it’s a must.  That it’s practically impossible to wear it, remain standing and breathing at the same time is irrelevant.  It’s ‘the look’ that matters.  Expense is also irrelevant - that’s why credit cards were invented.

      Empowered = Never missed an Oprah Show, although nowadays it’s her poor white cousin Ellen.  Knows all about the world, feels empowered, is a go getter and will make it - just has no idea of where it is that she’s supposed to be going.

    • Tory Shepherd

      Tory Shepherd says:

      01:34pm | 23/02/12

      Does anyone else wish they could introduce some of the men who post here to normal women, but simultaneously think that would be a mistake?

    • Paul says:

      01:41pm | 23/02/12

      ‘Things you’d miss about women were they to become extinct?’

      Billy Connolly put it brilliantly, ‘You think over the years that you’d learnt so much about women. How wrong can you be. You think they’re the same species because they walk upright and talk to you from time to time.’

      For me it would be this conversation whilst sitting quietly on the couch watching a DVD.

      Woman: ‘What are you thinking about?’
      Man: ‘Nothing, just watching the film.’
      Woman: ‘See you never think about anything.’
      Man: ‘What am I supposed to be thinking about?’
      Woman: ‘You just don’t get it do you?’
      Man: ‘Get what?’
      Woman: ‘I don’t know why I even bother.’
      Man: ‘Is something on your mind?’
      Women: ‘Don’t worry about it.’
      Man: Continues watching film wondering what that was about before shortly returning to thinking about nothing.

    • Dash says:

      01:43pm | 23/02/12

      @Tory - Normal women? Oxymoron

    • subotic says:

      01:49pm | 23/02/12

      @Tory, what’s “normal” and who defines it?

      The Law?
      The Bible/ Koran/ (insert Holy book title here)?
      The 7:30 Rport?
      Chaz Bono?

      My wife digs Horror Movies, Hello Kitty, Seinfeld, and the Wu-Tang Clan.
      I dig Horror Movies, Stoner Rock, Futurama and Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five.

      Hella “normal” for us….

    • M says:

      03:37pm | 23/02/12

      Lol @ tory. Normal women. Classic.

    • Mark says:

      01:24am | 24/02/12

      @ Tory

      I can be cruel at times, but never anything that unkind. They belong alone in their basements.

    • Kerryn says:

      07:25am | 23/02/12

      I’d miss the entire Brisbane Lions footy team.  And my Dad.  My Dad is awesome.  I look up to my Dad (even though biologically I’m not his), he’s the best Dad ever - all other Dads suck compared to my Dad!  My co-workers (all male) are great too, they’re my friends and they look out for me.

      They can take my brother though - I’ve nicknamed him “Klepto” for a reason.

    • RED says:

      08:49am | 23/02/12

      If last year was anything to go by the Lions are a bunch of girls anyway.

    • Tubesteak says:

      07:44am | 23/02/12

      Firstly, this is Australia. We say “tyre”, not “tire” (unless we’re tired).

      Secondly, the first 8 seasons of Two and a Half Men were pure genius. Charlie Harper was one of the greatest male characters ever created. He was a template for modern men. A paragon of men in the post-feminist age. Now it is crap because it’s two clueless whinging guys where the writers have to resort to slapstick. Schmidt should have been an older version of Kelso.

      Thirdly, if men were to leave the planet then who would women use as their meal tickets? Who would they get to take them out to dinner? Who would buy their drinks? Who would ask them out? Who would do the driving? Who would they whine about to their friends because their life isn’t as perfect as they think they deserve and it’s all the man’s fault because he’s not a mind-reader and they’re emotional about something? Who would they use to make their friends jealous and assert their place in the pecking order?

      These questions are too horrifying to consider.

    • Emma says:

      08:07am | 23/02/12

      If there are no men we dont have to whine about them to our girl friends. And without men the streets will be safe enough for us to drive ourselves. We wont need to get drunk anymore either, as we would cope with life without drowning us in alcohol. And if there were no men, women would rule the work force and earn equal pay and wouldnt need meal tickets.

      This is so much fun!

      But one thing would never change: Men are still at fault - extinct or not!

    • M says:

      08:21am | 23/02/12

      The real question here is who would get rid of all the creepy crawlies that get into our houses? All the women I know throw a fit when a huntsman or a cockroach is found inside.

    • Kerryn says:

      08:41am | 23/02/12

      @M I must be in the minority - in my male-dominated office I managed to get the to squeal by holding a live huntsman in my hand.  I think spiders are so cute!

    • Jack says:

      08:57am | 23/02/12

      If there are no men - there will be no 5 set epics anymore at the Australian open tennis.  Just 3 sets of grunting for same pay day.  Might make up for the sex I guess.

    • M says:

      09:14am | 23/02/12

      Lol @ Emma, I can only image how far civilisation would get if it were ruled by women. How bad is your life currently that you have to drown it in Alcohol? FYI, you guys already have equal pay.

      On the plus side, at least the board rooms would be full of women.

    • Emma says:

      09:31am | 23/02/12

      M

      And if there were no men, supermarkets would only sell chocolates and batteries. Hallelujah.

      The equal pay thing wasnt serious. I love society as it is, a wonderful playground.

    • Economist says:

      11:23am | 23/02/12

      Oh Tubesteak I’m losing respect for you mate wink

      I don’t understand the allure to Chuck Lorre, whether 2 1/2, BBT, M&M. At best it’s mildly amusing, but no where near as funny as the underrated Raising Hope or Community. I still laugh today thinking about Burt stuck in a basement with a llama.

      In spite of Bridemaids and the excellent New Girl, men seem to do comedy better than woman.  My wife couldn’t cope without a regular viewing of Blackadder, Blackbooks, Father Ted and Coupling DVDs.

    • amy says:

      11:32am | 23/02/12

      Tubesteak

      shut up and go back to your MRM blog or somthing,

    • Max Power says:

      11:34am | 23/02/12

      Emma: If supermarkets only sold Chocolate and batteries, imgaine how fat and disgusting women would become. With males gone, there would be no one to tell you your ass looks big in those pants, or ask what is with the muffin top.

    • Emma says:

      11:44am | 23/02/12

      Max who says we dont work it off? And with no men around there will be no pressure to be pretty.

    • Angry_Of_Mayfair says:

      12:10pm | 23/02/12

      Why would women get fat donkeys?

    • Budz says:

      12:31pm | 23/02/12

      @Emma: Hah! That’s the biggest load of croc I’ve heard! Women try and look pretty for other women in most circumstances, because it’s them that judge how they look. Not as much men.

    • Tubesteak says:

      12:59pm | 23/02/12

      Emma
      and strip clubs would go bust….....ummmmm no pun intended

      Kerryn
      Do you work in fashion, design, media or advertising? That probably explains the “men’s” reaction.

      Jack
      Yes, the female screeching turned me off watching some of the Australian Open. But I had to go to bed half way through the men’s final because it was getting late.

      Economist
      As I said, Charlie Harper is the perfect template for modern man. There was some brilliant humour in it and some great plot threads over the years. You have to watch it in it’s entirety to appreciate that. It’s not just crass humour.

      amy
      *something. You embarrass yourself, yet again.

    • Kerryn says:

      01:34pm | 23/02/12

      @Tubesteak I work in IT…

    • Tory Shepherd

      Tory Shepherd says:

      01:37pm | 23/02/12

      Oops, tyre, fixed!

      We’ll have to disagree on 21/2 men.

      Also - do you spend a lot being used as a meal ticket? You’ve gotta meet some new women! Ditto for the rest.

    • Kheiron says:

      02:30pm | 23/02/12

      If there were only women left…imagine if they managed to sync up their cycles.
      If you think the world is dangerous now, imagine how it’d be during that week of the month.
      I’d also expect the cat population to explode.

    • wearestardust says:

      02:38pm | 23/02/12

      I had not appreciated that BBT and 2 1/2 men were both Lorre productions.  I am a big fan of the former, but would rather stick pins in my eyes than watch the latter.

      But, then, my partner sometimes calls me her little Sheldon.

    • Tubesteak says:

      03:02pm | 23/02/12

      Kerryn
      Well, those guys can be a bit poncy, too….

      Tory
      If you’ve fixed it then my comment seems like I misread it. D’Oh!
      As for being used as a meal-ticket. I don’t bother dating much these days. I prefer the hook-up. When I was I know I wouldn’t have had a snowflake’s chance in hell of getting anywhere if I didn’t:
      1) Initiate contact
      2) Ask her out
      3) Plan the event
      4) Pay for the meal (seriously, I’ve been out on a few hundred dates in my time and have had about 3 times where the woman paid. Maybe a dozen where they went Dutch)

      My last girlfriend was in her 30s, lived at home, was a size 12 and worked in a call centre. Yet she wanted a Porsche and always expected me to pay. I dumped her.

      As for “normal women”: never really met one. Most of the women I’ve ever been introduced to and that women described as “nice” fit the above 4 criteria but had the personality of wet cardboard and weren’t much in the looks department.

      Not that I’m whinging (even though I know it sounds like it). I prefer the single life where I can sleep with many women but keep life going at my pace. It’s what keeps me happy and content (even though it maybe doesn’t sound like it, either).

    • amy says:

      03:11pm | 23/02/12

      @Tubesteak

      oh! god forbid, I made a typo while anonaymous on an opinion blog….

      excuse me I’ll have to go lie down to cope with the shame

    • PsychoHyena says:

      07:54pm | 23/02/12

      ladies are you forgetting something? You claim there would be no need to look pretty, so you’re forgetting all those lovely lesbians out there then? And Tube… same deal strip clubs would be home to the lesbians. So hey, guess there will always be people expecting women to look their best (which would still be the case lesbians or not as only the most professional looking will obtain employment).

      How the world works wouldn’t change that much.

    • NESLIHAN KUROSAWA says:

      07:57am | 23/02/12

      Hi Tory,

      I certainly think that we seem to swimming in dangerous waters! Just when we actually thought that “enough was enough” about all the differences. As well as the unique qualities which make us wonderful men, wonderful women and wonderful human beings.  It seems a bit like we are all back to where we all began, meaning square one.

      Do you really want to start another war of the sexes?  Then again, I guess you managed to say some really nice things about men, right?

      Personally speaking, I really would like to highlight the positive qualities as women, instead of making fun of the weaknesses about the members of the opposite sex.  Like most women are very good at multi tasking their duties. Only because they have to and they have no other alternatives in real life.

      What can we the same thing about men?  Can they actually watch TV and have meaningful conversation with their loved ones at the same time?

      And if I wanted to have a deep and meaningful conversation, I would most certainly turn to my female friends. Because, I truly think that men would love to solve most inter personal & relationship problems, like they would normal fix appliances around the house. 

      For that reason alone, an instruction book and some tools actually might come in handy at all times. Kind regards to your editors.

    • John F says:

      09:03am | 23/02/12

      Multi tasking is doing many things at once poorly, men tend to focus on one thing to do it well. Thats why many women dont get the movie they are watching because they keep interupting it ! Men can multi task but they are always dissapointed with the result !

    • E-skeg says:

      09:18am | 23/02/12

      I overheard an absolute classic just the other day at work.  One female colleague was talking to another male colleague.  Out of the blue she asks “What are you doing?”. He responds “Multi-tasking.” as he taps away on the keyboard. “I’m working on this while completely ignoring you!”. I’m still finding spots of coffee on my screen.

    • Blind Freddy says:

      09:58am | 23/02/12

      Women don’t want their problems solved. what else would they have to blame and bang on about? It gives the the chance to go “Me, me, me . . . .”, oh, and more “me.”

    • TChong says:

      11:20am | 23/02/12

      Nesh
      The probhlem for the old cliche of women are better multi tasking, is , it has no scientific foundation, has never been replicated in any type of objective analysis.
      Its a wonderful old sexiat furphy with absolutely no basis.
      Much the same type of sexist non sense that proposes the idea, that because womens brains are 11% smaller ( on average)(  “brain like a squirrel”, as Borat said),  than a males, therefore there must be a corresponding less intelligence.
      When properly constructed “blind ” tests are conducted, with women and men of similar age, education, socio economic backgroundsetc,
      there is NO difference in the genders thought processes and responses to problems.

    • amy says:

      11:37am | 23/02/12

      @John F

      I didnt find Inception hard to follow at all

      then again I tend to be nurotic about movies, as in it gets 100% of my attention, and god help you if you break that attention

      (seriously why do people feel the need to go one “dates” at a movie..I watch to watch the F***ing move, not make out with you ,you wannabe exhinbisionist..*sigh* men)

    • Smidgeling says:

      07:57am | 23/02/12

      Tory, is this to make up for the man-hate in previous posts?

      In any case, I do like the list. Seems to be consistent with most women I know, perhaps sans the chest hair.

    • Tim says:

      09:03am | 23/02/12

      Smidgeling,
      Women just say they like your shaved legs and chest.

      Really, it freaks them out and makes you look like one of those weird looking shaved cats.

    • Smidgeling says:

      10:55am | 23/02/12

      Tim, “your shaved legs and chest”?  When did a statement of fact become ownership of a behaviour? I waxed my chest for a comp last year. It felt really weird to not have any chest hair.

      Just stating what they say they like, not what I do. Although that crowd of ladies is the type that SSR so frequently likes to describe…

    • Tim says:

      11:26am | 23/02/12

      LOL,
      I was just joking.
      I just got this picture in my head of one of my mates who does it.

      He always talks about how much the ladies love his bare skin but I think it looks decidedly freaky.

    • ibast says:

      08:17am | 23/02/12

      “7. Sex with men. Well,”

      Had female friend of mine who experimented with gay sex.  Upon inquiry about how it went, the response was, “There was just something missing.”

    • subotic says:

      08:44am | 23/02/12

      the after-sex silence?

    • St. Michael says:

      11:12am | 23/02/12

      If you’re having lesbian sex and there’s something missing, that would probably be because you missed one shop on the way home.

    • Wynston Cruso says:

      11:36am | 23/02/12

      Yeah scissoring doesn’t really look all that pleasurable.

    • Paul says:

      03:27pm | 23/02/12

      @ ibast: A woman I dated for a while admitted such experimentation. She said, ‘It was OK but it’s like having the entree with no main course.,

    • Eleanor says:

      08:31am | 23/02/12

      Chest hair! Good god, yes! Where has it gone? Even just a little tuft in the centre would be nice :(

    • ?? says:

      09:51am | 23/02/12

      agreed !!!

    • andrew says:

      11:21am | 23/02/12

      Real man have chest hair.

      Going to the gym these days, most males are waxed and shaved down, chest, back, arms, legs etc etc.  Then of course the prance around the gym a little among the work out buddies for a good 30 minutes.  real man have chest hair and can still look cut.

      I guess the male waxing business around town, along with the mining industry, is a boom industry.  anybody know if i can buy shares in brazilan beauty?

    • Eleanor says:

      11:28am | 23/02/12

      Anyone else especially love the “snail trail”? You know, that line of hair that goes from the bellybutton to the groin. Rawr.

    • Em says:

      12:14pm | 23/02/12

      Ooohh… the snail trail.

      The sexiest bit of hair that ever was.

      I love the snail trail.

      Yes, I would miss that.  And the… ah… special cuddles.

    • Wynston Cruso says:

      12:29pm | 23/02/12

      ‘special cuddles’ ? You mean when you mix things up by letting him be the little spoon?

      You crazy kids.

    • Redeker Plan says:

      01:28pm | 23/02/12

      @Eleanor
      I like a bit of chest hair.  Not too much, but a little bit between the pecs. And bums with a bit of fuzz on the cheeks are really cute as are properly hairy arms and legs.  Hairy backs….nup, just cannot go there, especially those poor unfortunates with what appears to be a reverse map of Tassie at the base of the spine.  My first boyfriend had what appeared to be a triangular patch of gorilla-pelt right above the waistband of his pants.  And I have to draw the line at those.

      Oh but I fully swoon for the snail-trail.  And goatees. And the unshaven for three days look.  My man although most definitely neither blonde or ginger on top has the most lovely golden red goatee and facial hair that catches the sun at the right angle.  It’s lucky for me he hates shaving more than once a week smile

    • Nyx says:

      08:50pm | 23/02/12

      Mmm love chest hair (on a man) and a snail trail…

      Then again, I seem to be one of those odd women that likes a bit of bum and back hair. If I wanted to be with something smooth and hairless I’d be with a woman. My man is definitely hirsute (beard, ponytail, chest and back hair) and I wouldn’t change a single hair on his body.

      What would I miss is men were gone? Well that’s easy…men. I couldn’t handle a world of just women. Without men to balance things out women dissolve into utter bitchiness. I barely survived a single year at an all girls school.

      I love men, I love the way men’s minds work. I love how men’s bodies differ to mine, their voice, their laugh, their hands…everything. Its worth having a few less than stellar example of manhood in order to enjoy the majority of wonderful men out there.

    • Rick of the Dustbowl says:

      08:42am | 23/02/12

      @ Tubesteak…If men were to leave the planet?.............Where do I get my ticket?

    • marley says:

      10:22am | 23/02/12

      I dunno, but let me know and I’ll pay for the two of you.

    • Tubesteak says:

      02:37pm | 23/02/12

      Richard Branson has some thing going on. I think tickets are about half a mil. But marley is paying so woooohoooooo!

    • rocky says:

      08:52am | 23/02/12

      i would miss my other half making fun of me, not that I would tell him, but he really makes me giggle.

      I would also miss my stepdad, he makes my mother bearable.

    • Viktor says:

      08:53am | 23/02/12

      Very refreshing. These days articles pointing out good things about men are extremely rare.

    • Markus says:

      08:54am | 23/02/12

      You didn’t really need the caveat, Tory. Guys don’t tend to see ‘generalisation’ as a four letter word. Other than that, cute list.

      Interesting that you mentioned number 2. I swear every girl I’ve ever dated has tried to convince me into letting them shave/wax my chest, even though I knew full well they loved my chest hair.
      Not sure if it is some sort of man test, or whether they just wanted an excuse to inflict physical pain on me. Bit of both, perhaps.

    • lauren says:

      09:16am | 23/02/12

      I love chest hair. Makes a man ‘manly’, in my eyes.

      Back hair can piss off though.

    • stephen says:

      04:55pm | 23/02/12

      That’s why Robert Dipierdomenico was so good at footy ... no-one knew whether he was going forward or backward.

    • Jim says:

      08:56am | 23/02/12

      I insist my wife drive. There is nothing macho about being in control of a car. There are plenty of other ways to impress her.

    • Markus says:

      09:34am | 23/02/12

      It’s only manly if you sit in the back seat referring to your wife as ‘driver’.
      And clap your hands twice after stating your desired destination.

    • Shags says:

      09:00am | 23/02/12

      I’m with you Tory, give me a hairy man over a denuded one any day.  So much more manly.  The more often I wake up in the mornings and cough up a furball, the better smile

    • Jimbo Johnson says:

      09:14am | 23/02/12

      Ah Tory

      Let’s see. From the pic. Hair up.

      Flat shoes and slacks as well ?

      And you believe in person made climate change I bet.

      4 things men will not miss about women.

    • amy says:

      01:12pm | 23/02/12

      Gotta love Vertigo comics raspberry

      excapt after reading up on that Im a little depressed

    • Michael says:

      09:25am | 23/02/12

      If there were no men and the remaining humans didn’t need men to procreate then the remainder wouldn’t be women they would be humans, as sexuality would be obsolete.

    • Kika says:

      02:12pm | 23/02/12

      BEST POST OF THE LOT.

    • M says:

      09:27am | 23/02/12

      Well sure Tory, there’d be no more two and a half Men, just more of One and a half women (aka Gilmore Girls.)

      Shudder.

    • Steve says:

      09:28am | 23/02/12

      You know, I am very tired of those who set themselves up as the keepers of the ultimate truth and whose words we must all hang on putting down men.  It is a popular passtime among some females in media.  It gives me the impression that they don’t have anything else to comment on so they bag blokes. We are not perfect neither are women.  There are three things I would really miss if Tory Shepherd was extinct…. nothing, nothing and nothing.  If a man had made these comments how much howling and breast beating would be happening in the feminine filled halls of our media outlets????

    • Tory Shepherd

      Tory Shepherd says:

      11:24am | 23/02/12

      Steve if you saw this as bagging blokes ... I just can’t help you.

    • Em says:

      12:17pm | 23/02/12

      Steve… how is talking about stuff you’d MISS about blokes be a bad thing?

      Someone needs some special cuddles.  Seems like you haven’t got laid for a while.

    • Scotchfinger says:

      01:20pm | 23/02/12

      @Em, I think Steve needs some tips on how to win a girl’s heart without carrying on like a Muslim imam ha ha. Next he’ll be carrying on about the temptations of ‘uncooked meat’...

    • wearestardust says:

      02:46pm | 23/02/12

      Tory, to some people, anything spoken or written by a person who is sans y-chromosome is ipso facto bagging out men.

    • ScottS says:

      04:06pm | 23/02/12

      It was quite the contrary, I was expecting it to be as Steve said, but it was refreshing to be lightheartedly admired for our contributions or MANnerisms. I ALWAYS knew that women (some) find the “man smell” somewhat appealing, either literaly or on some basic level lol. well done Tory, now go home and have yourself a nice 7.

    • Andre says:

      09:38am | 23/02/12

      How about sperm?

    • Emma says:

      10:03am | 23/02/12

      “Oh yes please. right in my eyes so the lashes stick together for the whole weekend”

      Sure….

    • Tim says:

      10:23am | 23/02/12

      Emma,

      my type of girl.

    • Rowdy says:

      10:35am | 23/02/12

      @Emma….you’re doing it wrong…..


      No…wait…

    • subotic says:

      10:39am | 23/02/12

      @Emma, comment of the week….

    • SimonFromLakemba says:

      11:08am | 23/02/12

      hahahahahaha

      Too many compilation clips on redtube I think.

    • Scotchfinger says:

      11:23am | 23/02/12

      Emma I hope you didn’t visit your parents that weekend.
      Quite a hot comment however : )

    • Andre says:

      11:33am | 23/02/12

      I thought you used that black stuff to stick your eye lashes together, madagascar or whatever it is.

    • Emma says:

      11:46am | 23/02/12

      Andre

      No that stuff is to accentuate and help you aim

    • Andrew says:

      01:35pm | 23/02/12

      Seems like you have a lot of experience

    • SimonFromLakemba says:

      01:59pm | 23/02/12

      @Andrew

      Or watching too much Peter North

    • M says:

      09:42am | 23/02/12

      Moving furniture through tricky angles in point number 4 probably has more to do with better spatial reasoning rather than being a learned behaviour. They didn’t teach me how to move anything in highschool besides decimal points.

    • patsy says:

      09:52am | 23/02/12

      I am sexist because I appreciate the differences between the sexes. I love living alone and when Fiance comes over for “weekend detention” he mows my lawn if needed in a 1/4 of the time it takes me, digs up new garden patches, puts the yellow bin out if it weighs more than me because of all his stubby bottles, praises my cooking and I prefer his bedroom action rather than a rabbit. And we talk about things that interest and involve us both, he can save the other stuff for his mates.There are things I only chat about with chics because there are some topics that get the backs up of the opposite sex and it makes tham defensive rather than curious to understand.
      @Tubesteak-Fiance is not my “meal ticket”. I have my own money and when I cook for him I pay and when we go away I chuck in. Last week I made Cherry Ripe Slice and I don’t even eat cakes. The rest of your assertions are equally unqualified. I think you should meet more independant women. I don’t “whine” and I don’t even nag.
      Viva la Diffence! And enjoy.

    • Michael says:

      12:39pm | 23/02/12

      wow, you are as close to perfect as it gets i think.

    • patsy says:

      01:36pm | 23/02/12

      Ta Michael. I’ve already accepted that nothing’s perfect, including me I so I’m half way there. And apparently the way to a man’s heart is not straight through his chest cavity, it’s through his stomach. I’m of to the shops now to get the stuff I need to make Iced Vovo Strawberry Ice-cream Slice for this weekend’s detention. smile
      We’ve been together for nearly 9yrs wich is a record. Simple really. No one else will put up with us. All I have have to do is feed him and f**k him, which we both love and he enjoys doing the blokey things for me that I don’t love. As I said before Viva la Diference

    • SimonFromLakemba says:

      02:09pm | 23/02/12

      “feed him and f**k him”

      lmao if it was always that simple! Classic

    • patsy says:

      05:38pm | 23/02/12

      @Simon-isn’t it simple. Along with love and respect what else do you need?

    • Bob says:

      09:52am | 23/02/12

      I just shaved and showered but didn’t wax if you want my number

    • Redeker Plan says:

      09:59am | 23/02/12

      I really hope this doesn’t turn into another Punch-up between the usual gender-war contestants…  I took this article as a celebration of the countless wonderful things that the vast majority of men bring to the world, and will respond in kind.  Bitch at me if you will. 

      What would I miss about men if they were to disappear?  It’s hard to not to simply think about what I would miss about my man specifically.  Like Emma, I would miss the sense of overwhelming safety and security that comes from curling up with my head on his chest. 

      I would miss the sight of masculine arms and hands, not just his, but the strength, capability and finesse that I see in the hands of my father and the other guys I’ve known who work with their hands; forging metal and carving wood, fixing cars, building things to make our lives a better place. 

      I would miss the smell of burnt metal.  That sounds weird I know, but my father was a boiler-maker, and when I was a little girl I would meet him at the door when he came home to be gathered up for a cuddle.  The smell of scorched metal on overalls is a psychological comfort thing now, and when my man has spent the day in his shed making knives and angle-grinding big bars of steel, then comes inside for a cuddle and to show off what he’s made, I get the sense that all is right with my world.

      I would miss the taste of salt when you kiss them on the neck on a hot day.  And the clean smell of them when they’ve jumped out of the shower.  The smell of a clean man is the greatest one in the world, and I thank heaven every day that my man eschews cologne and aftershave.

      I would miss the way they make me laugh, at them, at the world and at myself when I’m being stupid.

      I would miss the gentle way my man convinces me to give up and go to bed when I’m so tired that I’m wandering around the house late at night aimlessly and irrationally, looking for other jobs that must.be.done.now.

      I would miss the joy that young men in particular take in their physicality, the sheer energy that they expend on running instead of walking, pushing each other around, jumping and climbing on random shit, and just bouncing up and down on the spot when forced to stand still.  It’s so nice to watch, not in a pervy way, but just to bask in the sight of them discovering their strength.

      I would miss the little thrill I get as a woman when I catch a random man – any man, not just a young hunky one – giving me a secret but respectful glance of appreciation on the street.  And the delighted look they have when I smile at them for it.  We women should smile more when men acknowledge our attractiveness.  By this I don’t mean the really rude kind of leering or sleazy remarks at a bar, but if you catch a man passing by giving you a look that indicates he thinks you’re attractive, does it cost you anything to acknowledge it with a little smile? 

      These are some but not all the things I would miss. I could probably write a 10,000 word essay on what I would miss about men, but this will suffice for now.

    • redvixen says:

      10:26am | 23/02/12

      @ Redeker - this is a great list and, except for the burnt metal, I concur.  However, I do need to add that my husband is my hero every time he removes a huntsman from our house (I’m arachnaphobic) and every time he makes an electric appliance work when I’v done something stupid (like press a wrong button).  I guess I could find a woman to do these things, but I’d rather not have to.

    • Erick says:

      10:26am | 23/02/12

      @Redeker Plan - “I would miss the little thrill I get as a woman when I catch a random man – any man, not just a young hunky one – giving me a secret but respectful glance of appreciation on the street.  And the delighted look they have when I smile at them for it.  We women should smile more when men acknowledge our attractiveness.”

      Totally agree. When a woman smiles at me like that, it make\s my day - sometimes even my week!

      It’s so nice, and unusual, to be appreciated like that. Men are conditioned to believe that they are inherently repulsive and that their attentions are an imposition, so even a small gesture like that means a lot.

    • patsy says:

      10:44am | 23/02/12

      @Redeker-You got so right. Especially the bit about a dad.

    • Emma says:

      10:48am | 23/02/12

      Erick

      Men are not repulsive. Some things men can do seem a little repulsive at times, but that goes both ways. We love men.

    • Erick says:

      11:17am | 23/02/12

      @Emma - “Men are not repulsive… We love men.”

      That may be true, but it’s not the impression I get from mainstream media, the education system, academia, and government. They all emphasise how horrible men are.

      And that constant repetition has its effects.

    • Redeker Plan says:

      11:21am | 23/02/12

      @ redvixen. Yeah I know the burnt metal one is weird, even my man can’t understand it.

      I’m actually the spider-hero in my house, my man is arachophobic to the point that he will evacuate a moving vehicle if one appears from under the sunvisor!  Having grown up with my mum as a serious, have-a-heart-attack arachnophobe, they don’t bother me at all and I’m happy to catch and release outside, and am often called upon to do the same in the office.  Cockroaches, however, make me hyperventilate, and I cannot even think straight to go and get the spray.  Go figure.

    • Fiona says:

      11:24am | 23/02/12

      Well said.
      Watching my hubby and son make short work or effortlessly pick up something that for me is a big effort is still fascinating.
      I’ve always loved the male sense of humour too, the regular sh*t stirring always makes me laugh.

    • ByStealth says:

      11:29am | 23/02/12

      ‘We women should smile more when men acknowledge our attractiveness. ‘

      I wish they would. Its natural for us to look and if we do it briefly and respectfully it would be nice for it to be condoned rather than labelled as ‘creepy’. That’s how you get boys becoming ashamed of their sexuality and it starts a low confidence feedback loop.

    • Erin says:

      11:50am | 23/02/12

      I love this comment!

      Men are wonderful and I wouldn’t want to live in a world without them.

    • Cherry says:

      12:01pm | 23/02/12

      Love your reply. For me, add sawdust to the burnt metal smell (my grandfather was a metal turner & my father a cabinet-maker).

      My husband makes me feel so appreciated; the worth it brings to my life, knowing he thinks I make his better, is not something I could get from a female friend (and I have some freaking awesome female friends). I hope I make him feel the same grin

    • Smokey says:

      10:03am | 23/02/12

      Is this some kind of tribute to make up for all the recent man-hate?

    • Dan Webster says:

      10:13am | 23/02/12

      My manly chest hair is feeling pretty damn good after reading that.
      I might just undo another shirt button to reveal that little bit more and tease those horny females into a frenzy.

      Nice list Tory, but as blokes, we know we rock anyway.

    • Emma says:

      10:56am | 23/02/12

      And dont forget to show off your gold chain tangled in that chest hair yours!  smile

    • M says:

      11:56am | 23/02/12

      I’m getting mixed messages. Wax my chest, don’t wax my chest. Wear gold chains, don’t wear gold chains. Shave, don’t shave.

      Women confuse me.

    • Sam Chowder says:

      10:40am | 23/02/12

      All those sheds that will get filled with boxes of knick knacks, it’s heart breaking.

    • Kika says:

      10:50am | 23/02/12

      I’d miss:-
      1) Common sense
      2) Genuine friendships
      3) Common sense
      4) F-art jokes
      5) Some of my most dearest and genuine friendships I’ve ever had. I couldn’t cope with a world full of women with their fakeness and fake giggling after saying something offensive.

      So I’d miss men for all their common sense and practical thinking. I can pass on the smell and the hair.

    • SimonFromLakemba says:

      11:12am | 23/02/12

      1. Common Sense.

      Someone finally said it!..Lol

    • amy says:

      11:24am | 23/02/12

      fakeness? fake giggling? oh please

    • Markus says:

      12:04pm | 23/02/12

      I love the hyphen you put in Fart. It helps emphasise the fact that good fart jokes are an artform.

      @amy, please what?

    • amy says:

      03:13pm | 23/02/12

      @Markus

      please as in are you serious?

      or is youre entire veiw on women shaped by teenage girls?

    • Markus says:

      03:31pm | 23/02/12

      All those phony, vapid and downright horrible teenage girls are now just phony, vapid and downright horrible women.

      Just because you aren’t stuck in school with them anymore, doesn’t mean that they magically just disappeared or grew up.

    • marley says:

      03:59pm | 23/02/12

      @kika - you seriously need to get some new female friends.  Mine are no more prone to fakery or giggling than my male friends. Mind you, they’re all over the age of 25.

    • Kika says:

      05:22pm | 23/02/12

      @Marley - Mine are over 25 too.  The few I have are real friends who I can be myself around. With most women I find that I have to be someone I am not to fit in with them. Also I find men to be far more genuine than women.  I’m quite fine with my male friends. They are more fun to hang around any way.

    • Kim says:

      07:45pm | 26/02/12

      Hon, you’re hanging around all the wrong girls if you don’t know ANY women who exhibit common sense or geniuineness. That really sucks.

    • JJ says:

      11:01am | 23/02/12

      Tory, something has changed in you. That is three straight posts that I agree with. Once again, great stuff. What has caused the change? Did you beter half recently become a vegetarian? smile

    • Kika says:

      11:16am | 23/02/12

      What? Smart and beautiful?

    • Dash says:

      11:13am | 23/02/12

      @Tory - sex came in at number 7! Gee you’ve clearly been unlucky in love!

    • Tory Shepherd

      Tory Shepherd says:

      11:27am | 23/02/12

      I just like to finish with a bang, Dash wink

    • Dash says:

      01:38pm | 23/02/12

      Wow - me too! - lol

    • Fred says:

      11:36am | 23/02/12

      No, I don’t care either - that was 30 seconds of my life, gone forever!

    • Coop says:

      02:46pm | 23/02/12

      And there goes another 30

    • colroe says:

      11:43am | 23/02/12

      Great work Tory, I loved reading this.  You put it simply but clearly.  I love ladies like you   Love me for myself, my hairy chest, and my sometimes sweaty body.  I cant cook, but I am quite a dab hand at simple repairs around the house.  Most of all I love my lady when she cuddles up to me and I smell her hair!!!    The good things in life can be so simple.

    • Nnnnnnnnnnnnn says:

      12:10pm | 23/02/12

      Yes! Finally…someone else admitted to loving the smell of man sweat. Well, certain mens man sweat anyway.

      I feel like I can show my face again!

    • Martin says:

      12:35pm | 23/02/12

      One bonus if the male species vanishes from the planet: more girl-on-girl action !

      Only I wouldn’t be around to see it :-(

    • James Smyth says:

      12:39pm | 23/02/12

      If there were no men…..... Chuck Norris would not let that happen. Ever.

    • Ben says:

      12:47pm | 23/02/12

      Funny article Tory! Glad you see the little but important things men bring to the world, amongst other thing we have to offer. As much as we may hate eachother sometimes, men and women truely couldn’t live without eachother.

    • The Trader says:

      01:15pm | 23/02/12

      Men to be extinct - sell tissue stock

    • ScottS says:

      04:00pm | 23/02/12

      Haha, Fapping supports so many industries. plastic surgeons will go bust too I suspect,

    • wearestardust says:

      02:52pm | 23/02/12

      I’m surprised no-one has mentioned spider removal.  Indeed, based on the sample consisting of my partner and gay son, I wonder if it is not just a man’s job but a hetero man’s job.  But a sample of 2 probably has poor p-values.

      I insist on a trap and release approach, and that only applies to spiders inside the house proper.  Those in the garage get left to go about their business.  Except redbacks, to which I take a more definitive approach in all circumstances anywhere on my land.

    • Kika says:

      02:59pm | 23/02/12

      I do the spider removal in my house. And geckos and all those sorts of things.  Not just a male job!

    • Cynicised says:

      04:31pm | 23/02/12

      Definitely spider removal, urrrgh, can’t stand the buggers, I’m another scaredy-cat arachnophobe!

      I also concur most of Tori’s list. There’d be much to miss about men, their physicality not being the least. ..and their ability to make a woman feel so very loved and appreciated, not by big gestures, just by a tender smile of recognition which my man gives me every time we see each other from afar, even though we’ve been together for many years.

    • TheHuntress says:

      04:58pm | 23/02/12

      Yep. I loved this list and everything on it. Especially man hands, I love my husbands hands and I don’t think he quite gets it. And definitely the uncomplicating thing - how do they do that?!? It’s so brilliant!

      One thing I would miss is the look on a mans face when he is looking at someone he loves so wholly and completely. It’s almost so secret inside them, but when you catch a fleeting glimpse it’s something that makes me smile for the couple.

    • simple solution says:

      05:09pm | 23/02/12

      just make men extinct and then worry about men

    • fresh chicken says:

      05:11pm | 23/02/12

      Would the Julia Gillards of tomorrow really miss the Kevin Rudds of today ?

    • Elizabeth1 says:

      06:55am | 24/02/12

      I really enjoyed this Tory. Working too hard on a new job and nearly missed it.  Other comments have covered most of what I can think of that I would miss. Redeckers comment was great, loved it. There are so many things I associate with being male that I would miss and probably a lot I don’t know I would miss unless they were gone. I know I would really miss the upside down triangle shape of men, the broad shoulders and narrow hips. This shape attracts me and I always notice it.  I would miss flat chests, body hair, that special smell and the salty tastes. I would really miss men’s deep voices. I love how men get caught up in the moment especially with hands on things.  Intense. I could watch that all day. I have to add the freedom and way they use their bodies whether it is working or sport.  I would miss the blunt communication style a lot of men use. Also the different way they problem solve. This could go on and on.

 

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