The seat of Eden Monaro displays freakish predictive powers that make Paul the Octopus look like your average drunken cephalopod punter.

Queanbeyan, as seen from the side of the road

Since the 1972 election Eden Monaro - which takes in a huge slice of south-east NSW – has been won by the party that went on to win Government. It has become a truism of federal politics that Eden-Monaro is the bellwether seat.

But more interesting is what it is about the people of this seat that gives rise to this odd phenomenon?

The answer lies in the demographics of the seat that, arguably more than any other, gives a cross-section of the Australian population, albeit with a rural focus, and an insight into that most elusive and prized political animals: the swinging voter.

Current Labor member former soldier Mike Kelly took the seat in 2007 with a 6.7 per cent swing, and now holds it on a 2.3 per cent margin. While the Liberals have put up an experienced political operator and local in David Gazard, Kelly is still a clear favourite with local pundits and the bookies.

Riverside Mall in Queanbeyan is your standard suburban shopping centre, with mild touches of modern suburban ostentation that didn’t exist too long ago: Gloria Jeans and a Michel’s Patisserie now stand in the middle of the mini-mall.

It was there I spoke to Steve Ross, a 54-year-old aircraft maintenance engineer at Canberra airport who is married with one daughter.

Steve and his daughter. Glad Gillard dumped Rudd.

Steve says as a swinging voter he couldn’t be happier with the Labor Party’s decision to dump Kevin Rudd:

“I agree with Julia Gillard being brought into the Prime Ministership. I think Kevin Rudd was a one man band heading down the wrong track. I like the local bloke I think he’s done a pretty good job.

“I was quite unhappy with the way that Kevin Rudd was taking the country. One debacle after another, spending too many tax dollars. I was of two minds when she came on, was she going to be an apparatchik or not. But she’s been really excellent. She can put her ideas forward but without menace.”

And what of Abbott?

“Tony Abbott started off well, great out of the blocks, but he’s making errors. I think he’s biggest error was when Gillard sorted out the mining tax and he came on and said “well it’s still a great big new tax”. And I thought well Tony they’ve moved and why can’t you.”

Although it may reflect Queanbeyan’s reputation as a Labor town Steve’s opinions were pretty strong themes coming from voters throughout the day. The Punch’s unscientific findings were:

- Health, housing affordability and roads were the biggest issues

- They quite like the fact that Julia Gillard is now Prime Minister, despite the way she came into power

- They think Tony Abbott is an interesting kind of politician, but “a bit all over place” and a “buffoon” at times as one woman put it.

- Most people thought that Mike Kelly had done a good enough job

- Almost nobody had heard of the Liberal candidate David Gazard

- People are concerned about the state of the environment, but often divided on an ETS

- Wasteful government spending is an issue of concern

The last issue is one that Liberal candidate David Gazard told The Punch that he also hears a lot about, and is drilling the message:

“Government waste is a huge issue . . . a lot of people are used to being frugal in farming communities that have seen eight years of drought, and to see that much waste and mismanagement along with the insulation program they are disgusted by it.”

Gazard also thinks that the weary NSW voters will see Gillard as merely another incarnation of Labor state politics:

“The Gillard factor is quite prevalent because they have been gingered up to it by numerous changes at the NSW State Government. So they are fully aware that when the Labor Party gets itself into power it just changes leader . . . they have a huge awareness of loyalty. They might not have been huge fans of Kevin Rudd but don’t like the way he was ousted.”

Nonetheless, a win in the seat looks increasingly tough for the former journalist and staffer to John Howard and Peter Costello. A recent Canberra Times poll of the seat has Gazard in all sorts of trouble, trailing Kelly 39 to 61 per cent on two party preferred.

“I haven’t let that worry me, the week before that the Sunday Telegraph had was saying Labor were conceding the seat. So I don’t worry about polling because you can’t control it,” Gazard told The Punch.

He may have a point, a Newspoll also showed that almost 50 per cent of people hadn’t made up their mind.

When The Punch asked Mike Kelly what the major issues were in the electorate he conceded Government waste and the mining tax were playing on peoples minds before Gillard was put in the top job:

“One concern is the debt and deficit issue. But after the budget I saw that people were a lot less concerned by that because they saw a clear track back to surplus.

“Then of course along came the mining tax issue and a number of areas of concern around here were the quarry owners and self-funded retirees.
But once again I think those people had their mind put at rest since the deal was done with the miners.

While health was probably the biggest local issue, Kelly says most farmers were also worried about the idea of carbon trading system, and accepts that any new CPRS would still be a tough sell:

“The general consensus would be that they want to get back to a CPRS, like the one negotiated with the Coalition, but there’s been a lot of misinformation created out there by the Coalition’s new approach. So that’s an issue we’ll have to address if we win the election.”

To an extent Labor will cop it both ways on climate change in Eden-Monaro: from those who are just plain against an ETS (not that it’s Labor policy anymore) and those who are upset at the lack of real action under Rudd.

Fiona Beckhamm, a Queanbeyan mother in her mid-forties and small business owner, sees the failure of the CPRS as emblematic of Labor lack of action in its first term and thinks Gillard has inherited the problem.

“Before they did the Copenhagen summit it looked like something was going to be done. But Kevin Rudd went over there with 40 people and nothing was done. The only thing that might have been done for the environment was that the Kyoto treaty was signed.

“I think that Julia Gillard is just saying enough to get elected. This moving forward and stuff is grating and insulting to people, like they can’t move past her speech.”

And Abbott?

“Abbott’s alright, but he’s a bit wishy washy. I mean he doesn’t seem to know a lot of his own policies. Like how much it’s actually going to cost the average tax payer.

“I’ll see how things pan out the next couple of weeks, if I don’t like either I just vote for an independent”, she told The Punch.

Still Queanbeyan, now a booming satellite city to Canberra with a 2 per cent unemployment rate as Kelly boasts, is not representative of the entire electorate. It’s a huge and diverse seat with different problems regional interests from marine parks to forestry.

“It’s a dispersed population, numerous local radio, newspapers and TV. So they’ve all go their own issues that they want you to champion. That’s a good thing about Eden-Monaro though . . . it’s an incredibly interesting seat,” Gazard told The Punch.

If the Eden-Monaro is a microcosm of Australian politics, then Braidwood is the microcosm of Eden-Monaro. Located at the base of the mountains and only another half hour from the coast all of Eden-Monaro comes through Braidwood: coasties, graziers, forestry workers, fruit farmers, fisherman, hippies, academic types who periodically turn up in Canberra and small businesses heavily reliant on all the Canberra to South Coast traffic.

Two of those small business owners are Linda Eden and her daughter Carla who run a café on the highway.

Linda in her Braidwood cafe.

Linda says that she is a Liberal voter but is concerned that neither side are really paying attention to those hurting in rural areas:

“Health is a massive issue here. The tiny little hospital is really struggling, and we don’t have a dentist in the town.”

Linda says that her views on WorkChoices might be unpopular, but if Abbott did get in she wouldn’t mind him loosening up IR laws again for employers.

“We are very loath to put staff on because if people don’t work out we can’t get rid of them,” she told The Punch.

But, as is consistent theme in the area, her views on Abbott aren’t too favourable either:

“I would prefer Turnbull, I think Abbott is a little rash.”

Her 28-year-old daughter Carla, who also owns the business, immediately raises an issue that Kelly told The Punch wasn’t really on voters minds in the seat, that of asylum seekers:

“The asylum seeker issue drives me up the wall. I understand that these people have come from some pretty tough places and conditions, but they’re entitled to things that a lot Australians aren’t. When you have pensioners not able to afford to buy steak, sometimes you think maybe we need to look after our own backyard a little more.”

Still Gillard does have a fan in former small businessman 78-year-old David Lowry, a retired local pharmacist:

“All this stuff about who leaked this and who leaked that, it goes on in politics all the time. It’s all crap. It doesn’t bother me how she got in. How did Tony Abbott get his job? By one vote. That’s politics.

“I’m very happy Julia Gillard and Mike Kelly seems to have done a good job. I don’t know who the other guy is.”

That's a good chainsaw deal in anyones language.

But anyone who thinks that the issue of Labor leaks in this campaign is some kind of high politics issue that doesn’t permeate into the main street should think again. At least four people in one afternoon mentioned the Labor leaks as a damaging issue, and all said it would make them reconsider a vote for Labor.

Sergio a 71-year-old local described it as “kindergarten stuff”. He’ll probably vote Green now he said.

Another was 51-year-old John White. The former AMWU organiser in Sydney now pub cook said that he’s picked up on a sense of frustration with Labor politicking which could hurt them at the election:

“People see this stuff and have just had a gutful.”

Although he’d never vote Liberal and will stick by Labor this election, his closing comment on the subject is the kind of thing that must have Labor strategists waking up in a cold sweat.

“And frankly I’ve had a gutful of it too. I used to be a member of the Labor Party, but not anymore, and I won’t again. I’ve had enough.”

This pub has a great fire, and plenty of people to talk to about the election

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    • Ziggy says:

      07:03am | 02/08/10

      Travel through Braidwood on a regular basis. Everything seems for sale. That speaks more to Labour policies than the comments quoted in the article. The place is dying a slow death. As are many regional towns throughout the country. Neither party seems to have any policy to revitalise regional areas and make them places where people will go and live and prosper - and relieve the pressure on Sydney, Melbourne etc.

    • Evan Findlay says:

      09:36am | 02/08/10

      Ziggy,
      I don’t think Braidwood is the only town/city where retail sales are plummeting. I live in Stones Corner in Brisbane, five kilometres form the CBD and every second shop in our shopping precinct is having a sale and every third shop is for lease.
      The fact of the matter is that whilst we have dodged the recession the majority of the worlds economies have not.
      In the recent business confidence index it was noted that profit margins were shrinking and subsequently stifling growth and employment opportunities within the retail sector. Companies in America just last week were talking of deflation within the American economy. Consumers have stopped spending on discretionary items as they still see, not only our economy, but the worlds economies on a knifes edge.
      It makes for an interesting term of government whether it be a Labor or Liberal victory. If Labor wins they will probably have to inject more money into the economy to stop it from sliding backwards and if the Liberals win they will have to decide whether they intervene to prop up the economy or whether they leave it to market forces. 
      But Braidwood is not alone.

    • acker says:

      11:29am | 02/08/10

      Spread public servants out a bit into regional cities and rural towns rather than concentrating them in cities

    • Gregg says:

      11:36am | 02/08/10

      Ziggy and Evan, don’t know your ages but it seems many people in politics and generally have forgotten the sneeze/cold syndrome talked of decades ago re US/our economies and these days it’s probably more the domino theory US > Europe > China and no prizes for guessing where we are as tail end charlie!

      It was going to take quite some time for Australia to feel the ramifications whilst our main income industry was going OK with demand from China and any old sea dog will tell you how long it takes for a big ship to slow/move off course.
      All this just underlines the stimulus packages as being not terribly thought out in application, timing and extent for it’s going to be real dandy to have a government with massive debt when a greater need for stimulus comes along.

    • Ziggy says:

      12:35pm | 02/08/10

      I’m 74.
      Basically our current economy can be summed up as:-
      Dig stuff out of ground and send to China and India. They then use stuff to sell us(and the world) diff type of stuff which lasts about 6 months and then we tip it all in the holes we have created to fill them up. We then dig other holes etc, etc and so it goes. In OZ we have discovered a new economy founded on laziness and hope.
      Our govts do everything they can not to make anything here because that would foul up our environment. Plus if they sell off all our real assets they don’t have to worry about them anymore.
      And don’t please look after the kids through premier education - leave it to theunions - it’s easier. Plus who cares about the aged - they don’t vote for us anyway!
      And so a decent, pioneering and courageous country is dying a slow death in terms of values that really count.
      Soon we will be renters in our own country BUT can we keep affording the rent?

    • Jimmy says:

      12:38pm | 02/08/10

      @Evan
      Ziggy made the point that it is happening throughout our country.

    • Evan Findlay says:

      01:27pm | 02/08/10

      Gregg,
      Not as old as Ziggy but I am aware of the old economist’s saying that when the US economy sneezes Australia catches a cold. And as Ziggy rightfully points out that the Chinese economy in is linked to the US economy and subsequently our economy is linked to the Chinese. So when the US economy begins to flounder it naturally flows back to our economy. Similarly China is one of the worlds largest builders of supertanker ships and their largest market is throughout Europe. With Europe still looking to turn the corner of their downturns in their economies it stands to reason that the orders of iron ore that the Chinese source from our mines to build those supertankers will also begin to fall. In fact China has already demonstrated their intentions by taking their economy of the boil and applying the brakes and this in turn will precede a slowing in demand for all of our resources.
      And I agree with Ziggy that our economy has become too focused and reliant on the mining industry. Post WWII and into the sixties we lived off the sheep’s back. Then we relied on a mixture of agriculture and mining and now predominately mining. The problem with our economy is that our resource sector is still productive, although slowing, and our domestic economy is stagnate and slowly heading south.
      Unlike our last recession in the early nineties, Australian households are far more in debt and have less disposable income to keep the economy ticking over should a recession land on our shores.
      The private sector has contributed very little to the economy in the past eighteen months and confluent with a lack of consumer confidence, high personal debt and a shortage of capital it should make for an interesting three years.

    • Claire says:

      07:20am | 02/08/10

      Nice piece, Leo. As a new inhabitant of Queanbeyan I braced myself to be patronised, but you didn’t fall into that trap. You’ve also pretty much summed up my reading of the political temperature in these parts. Most I’ve spoken to agree Mike Kelly is a decent enough MP and the other guy is invisible, an unknown quantity. So, since you won’t get too many voting Green in this town, I would guess Mike will get most of the votes in Queanbeyan, at any rate. For what it’s worth I reckon it will be a very close contest federally though. PS I do have to say you need a sub, though smile

    • shabangabang says:

      08:28am | 02/08/10

      More important than being a bell-weather seat, Queanbeyan is where Mark Weber is from. He couldn’t drive fast enough to get away from the place.

    • Nigel Catchlove says:

      08:41am | 02/08/10

      Weber always visits Queanbeyan when he’s in Australia and there are few people who haven’t met his proud father, a Queanbeyan local. Queanbeyan has a very proud sporting pedigree fostering not only Mark Weber but Ricky Stuart, David Campese, Matt Giteau and Trevor Campese.

    • Old Clive says:

      08:44am | 02/08/10

      Well put sir? I remember my first visit to this area in 1954 when I was in the Navy, I couldn’t get back to civilisation quick enough, the whole area is living in fantasy land, but then again what can one expect when they are so close to the theme park called Canberra, or is a circus. Even the designer of the place could forsee the future of it, going around in circles and getting nowhere in particular.

    • Mr Nosey says:

      02:39pm | 02/08/10

      Steady on with the Webber joke. I assume you didn’t mean the guy any ill-will or offence but I have to stand up for a bloke who I have never met but who seems ridiculously decent.
      My gf is a teacher in Queanbeyan and not only did Mark Webber return there to visit his folks when he was last in Australia he also made time to meet local school children and share his story with them. Not bad for a guy who makes huge amounts of money and considering that Q-town isn’t the most appealing ‘burb in the world. This would be a real positive for kids who struggle with the lack of expectations and the constant ridiculing of any dreams that is found everywhere in Australia’s lower socio-economic areas.
      Also from Queanbeyan Brad Haddin, some Aussie Rules bigshot whose name escapes me, and Terry Campese (must be “Trevor’s” brother).
      Long story short - Webber = good guy.

    • Nigel Catchlove says:

      08:35am | 02/08/10

      Yes Clair, Mike will get most of the votes in Queanbeyan.  Labor always, wins all the voting booths in Queanbeyan and that is not where the election is won or lost. Outside of Queanbeyan Mike Kelly is suffering from a comparison with the previous Liberal MP, Gary Nairn.  Gary travelled a prodigious number of miles seven days-per-week most weeks and was an engaged, accessible MP in areas outside of Queanbeyan.  Stories abound about Mike Kelly’s failure to respond to correspondence, failure to return calls and generally low profile in the electorate.  Rightly or wrongly, Gary created an expectation for the availability of the local MP and Mike has not come close to meeting that.  Having written all that, the single largest voting booth in the electorate is Jerrabomberra, a wealthy community on the fringes of Queanbeyan which has a very different demographic profile to anywhere else in the seat.  High disposable income, big mortgages, large volume of tertiary qualifications and no relationship with Queanbeyan at all.  Most of the population there works, shops and is entertained in Canberra where most of their friends are.  It’s simply an ancient slip of the cartographer’s pen that puts them in NSW. Political pundits understand the importance of Jerrabomberra as displayed at the last two Federal elections where the Labor candidate didn’t do the usual election day shuffle visiting every booth in the electorate, they chose to stay the whole day at one booth, meeting and greeting every voter at Jerrabomberra. It will be an interesting election and my tip is that Eden-Monaro will fall to David Gazard, a very good candidate for the Liberals, but if it remains a bellweather seat is really anyone’s guess.

    • Albie says:

      12:49pm | 02/08/10

      I concur - this article needed some comments from people in the far-flung parts of the Eden-Monaro seat - like in Eden for instance! Queanbeyan is basically part of Canberra, and Bradiwood is just a Canberra tree-change town.

      What about people in Eden, Bega, Bombala, Cobargo, Jindabyne?

    • Robbo says:

      09:07am | 02/08/10

      Fastest growing city - population 33,000. They need to update the sign - we are up to 46,000 now.

      The reason Eden-Monaro is such a good predictor is that is essentially has the exact same demographic mix as Australia. Rich and poor, young and old, Catholic or Protestant - the statistical similarity with Australia as a whole is uncanny.

      Of course we are the most important seat - Mark Webber is from here!

    • Kirk says:

      03:11pm | 02/08/10

      How many immigrants in Eden-Monaro?  When people talk about diversity in terms of different denominations of Christianity I can’t help but smirk to myself.

    • em says:

      09:11pm | 02/08/10

      @Kirk I hope you’re not forgetting the influx of migrants after WWII that came in for the Snowy Scheme. Eden-Monaro is fairly multi-cultural, and please remember that cultural groups exist outside of religion too.

    • David C says:

      09:24am | 02/08/10

      As any stock market pundit will tell you, past performance is no guarantee of future performance

    • Claire says:

      09:32am | 02/08/10

      Thanks for the local heads-up, Nigel. As a late arrival, that’s the kind of background I wouldn’t be aware of. I certainly didn’t realise Jerra was anything special - took a wrong turn and ended up there once and it looked like the dullest place on earth, but I suppose rich doesn’t necessarily equal vibrant. Steve Whan definitely doesn’t respond to correspondence, by the way, but he probably reckons it’s not worth the effort as he’s a dead man walking.

      Old Clive, Canberra is certainly the most bizarre place I’ve ever come across (having lived in and visited many different parts of the world), and the locals are up themselves for no apparent reason other than their self-perceived sense of superiority. Shabangabang, I am guessing you are one of these - your attitude towards Queanbeyan is certainly typically nose-in-air. It’s a decent, unpretentious country town that bears no responsibility for the Canberra circus that’s been foisted upon it. As well as some humility, you need to learn to spell, by the way.

    • Markus says:

      12:03pm | 02/08/10

      Canberra too often falls into the trap of believing its own hype.
      On average it regularly ranks higher than the national average in income and levels of education.
      Many run with this in their delusions of superiority, conveniently ignoring the general national opinion of the city (and its residents) as pretentious and mind-numbingly boring.

    • Mike says:

      09:39am | 02/08/10

      Leo, disappointed that you didn’t mention that the picture of the pub (with a great fire) is owned by John Mitchell.  John is also the editor/owner of the Bungendore Mirror newspaper, and ALP member.  John’s pub is the venue of all of Kelly’s ‘politics in the pub’ fundraisers within Braidwood.

    • Polywatcher says:

      10:46am | 02/08/10

      It’s taken many many years to renovate the old Commercial Hotel in Braidwood and it still isn’t finished. Pity the owner didn’t incorporate heritage colours for his pub in this heritage listed town, or has pink now been included in the heritage colour range. The way Joolya is going chances are that when I next visit - the pub will be painted Green. Not heritage green I hasten to add.

    • KJ_Storm says:

      09:40am | 02/08/10

      So I am in the dreaded Queanbeyan District. I say Dreaded because I have seen entire forests get chained down and shoved through my mailbox, ontop of my mailbox and out the back of my mailbox when they decide they really need to shove just one more phamplet about the election into it. I just keep thinking that if either party was serious about climate change they would stop shoving so much paper into my mailbox. Still at least I’m recycling it.

      Every minute on the TV there is some add denouncing Labour, denouncing Liberals, Saying what a great guy Mike Kelly is, Saying what a great Guy Gazzard is. I seem to be missing some key ads though…. The ads that will say what they actually are going to do about issues!!!

      To be honest I am so tired of the inability of politicians to take a stance that it is driving me insane. I would much rather someone who stood up said this is what’s wrong, this is what I’m going to try to do to fix it. OK so it didn’t go exactly to plan and I made a mistake but this is what I’ve learned better for next time.

      The inability of politicians to make a decision, to own up to responsibility for their decisions and the negativity in all the campaigns almost makes me wish that people for parliament are selected at random in each area. At least this way you would get a wide corss section of the community and they would be more likely to make a decision and stick to it if they knew they weren’t going to have to campaign again in 3 years. OK I know that isn’t realistic and its a bit of a joke. But isn’t politics turning into a bit of a joke these days?

      We judge people on their looks, gender whether or not they wear red budgie smugglers… Anything but the important questions. Why should they get the job? What are they doing to help Australia now and in the future?

    • BobM says:

      09:52am | 02/08/10

      As Labor has lost a lot of it’s traditional support in Qld, NSW and WA, I don’t think that Eden-Monaro will have as much significance as in previous elections.

    • Peter Oataway, Hay, NSW says:

      10:29am | 02/08/10

      I am chair on the Local Hospital Committee at Hay, NSW about 500 km west of Queanbeyan, and have been disgusted that Queanbeyan is the central office of the Greater Southern Area Health Service which oversees the Riverina health..why a place so far away ????? 
      Why is my town and the Riverina towns nearby propping up beurecrats in a far off place like Quenbeyan in an ivory tower, and I’m not talking about medically trained beurecrats I’m talking about administrative beurecrats taking money out of Hay, NSW and other Riverina communitees health funding and putting into Queanbeyan, Eden Monaro, Marginal Electorate Seat peoples pockets, administrative beurecrats pockets..the CEO of this Health Service a couple of years ago was advertising for a Personal Assistant for their Personal Assistant..beuracracy gone mad..
      Hay is struggling to get doctors and nurses, Griffith has similar problems as does Leeton and other Riverina communities.
      Our major Base Hospital Wagga is falling to bits and after once being promised a new hospital had that taken away
      The last thing the Riverina’s health service needs to be doing is propping up Quenbeyan’s beurecrats for the sake of multiple government pork-barreling
      Time to stop this disgusting practice and tear down this shambles of an administrative head office of Greater Southern Area Health in Quenbeyan sucking money out of our areas health service.

    • Nigel Catchlove says:

      11:30am | 02/08/10

      I absolutely agree although I’m not sure what this has to do with the federal Electorate of Eden-Monaro.  Perhaps you should take it up with your State Member, National Party MP John Williams or you may even want to express your disgust to the State Member for Monaro Steve Whan.

    • Peter Oataway, Hay, NSW says:

      12:13pm | 02/08/10

      @Nigel Catchlove 11.30am ..Queanbeyan is in Eden Monaro see the photo in Leo’s story..what I said is that the beuracratic administrative office of Greater Southern Area Health in Queanbyan which looks after Hay, Griffith, Wagga, Leeton, etc is an example of pork barreling health funding being diverted from providing health services in the Riverina to prop up the Greater Southern Area Health head office in Queanbeyan which is in the marginal seat of Eden Monaro… not in the Riverina where these health dollars should be spent ..disgusting use of health funding to win votes !!!!!!!!!!

    • Nigel Catchlove says:

      01:56pm | 02/08/10

      Peter, I appreciate the use of multiple exclamation marks to stress your point, but please carefully read what I wrote.  Monaro (State electorate, fully enclosed by Eden-Monaro - Federal electorate) is represented by Steve Whan from the ALP.  Greater Southern Area Health is a State body so its remit and its physical location have slightly less than nothing to do with the federal election.  The ‘pork-barreling’ in this case was by the NSW State Government who are the real estate agents for the State Office Block built by them in Queanbeyan - again, nothing to do with the federal election campaign.

    • Evan Findlay says:

      02:09pm | 02/08/10

      Peter Oataway,
      Welcome to the Australian political landscape.

    • Peter Oataway, Hay, NSW says:

      02:17pm | 02/08/10

      @Evan Findlay….regardless of political sides Queanbeyan and Eden Monaro are dining out on this stupid unjust quirk in the Australian electoral system that means Eden Monaro and Queanbeyan are constantly being pork-barrelled

    • Evan Findlay says:

      02:33pm | 02/08/10

      Peter,
      That’s my point. It has happened for as long as I care to remember. I don’t agree with it but that’s the nature of the beast.

    • Peter Oataway, Hay, NSW says:

      02:45pm | 02/08/10

      @Nigel Catchlove..The photo at the start of Leo’s story “Queanbeyan fastest growing city in Southern NSW” bears testement to my argument that this pearl in the crown of Eden Monaro has feasted on pork-barreling for too long.

    • Alex White says:

      11:08am | 02/08/10

      If you want to know more about Tony Abbott’s errors, check out Tony Abbott Revealed: http://tonyabbottrevealed.org.au/wiki/

      Voters in Eden Monaro should know about what kind of man Tony Abbott is before they vote.

    • JG says:

      01:45pm | 02/08/10

      As opposed to ‘real’ julia?

      The woman who has just admitted that she’s been basically lying to the public for the last few months?

      And of course, you have sources for all your allegations don’t you Alex?

    • JG says:

      01:52pm | 02/08/10

      Tony Abbott Revealed was created by Veritas Australia Inc, a non-profit community organisation that promotes progressive policy action. We are not affiliated with any political party.

      Interestingly Veritas Australia Inc provides exactly no hits when you google it.

      And I’m looking forward to reading your Julia Gillard revealed files very soon, being that you are not affiliated with any political party.

    • Robert Smissen, rural SA, God's own country says:

      11:32am | 02/08/10

      Message to Steve Ross, Julia Gillard IS Kevin Rudd, just because she dyed her hair red doesn’t alter the fact that Red Julia & Little Kevvy were joined at the hip, his policies are her policies, the fact that she will welecome the “little rodent” from QLD back into the fold just 3 months after she shivved him in the back should tell you how many principles she has.

    • Steve Ross says:

      11:59pm | 04/08/10

      Robert,
      I “calls ‘em as I see’s ‘em.” Julia spoke well on the ABC, but today she’s gone and trotted out yet another catch phrase! Don’t her idiot minders actually watch these reports? Does she?
      The cheap shot of calling for a debate on the night of Abbots’ campain launch really annoyed me and was so transparent.
      What I really wanted to come across is that I’m a swinging voter. Sure I would have liked Gillard to be in control longer so we REALLY knew who we were asked to choose between. But that’s politics in Oz-at least we don’t live in Burma, Venezuela or Iran. Count your blessings!

      Big thanks to Leo for a well balanced story; well done.

    • Amy says:

      11:53am | 02/08/10

      My Great Grandparents used to own a pub in Braidwood.  He was an alcoholic.  That about sums up my family. 

      Great piece Leo.  I love that we have a small regional community consistently able to predict the outcome of the election.  It’s all very West Wing!

      I know I do this a lot, but…  It’s “Michel’s”.  You didn’t notice the French dude in the sign?

    • Gregg says:

      12:03pm | 02/08/10

      Leo, would you have expected much of a differnt spin from someone called Kelly, a bushranger afterall, even if somewhat lovable in history
      “One concern is the debt and deficit issue. But after the budget I saw that people were a lot less concerned by that because they saw a clear track back to surplus.
      “Then of course along came the mining tax issue and a number of areas of concern around here were the quarry owners and self-funded retirees.
      But once again I think those people had their mind put at rest since the deal was done with the miners.
      While health was probably the biggest local issue, Kelly says most farmers were also worried about the idea of carbon trading system, and accepts that any new CPRS would still be a tough sell:
      “The general consensus would be that they want to get back to a CPRS, like the one negotiated with the Coalition, but there’s been a lot of misinformation created out there by the Coalition’s new approach. So that’s an issue we’ll have to address if we win the election.”

      Kelly probably knew better than to drop Moving forward in with ” a clear track back to surplus. ” but he sure is naive if people do not know what the word promises means in politics and then to use the word budget in the same line, a budget built on such rubbery foundations!
      And he again thinks all is fine because a deal was done with just how many mining companies?

      It sure seems Kelly is completely out of touch with how it is for small businesses on a number of fronts and he sure give a few words, just a few to health issues that people as far a way as the coast and Hay are concerned with.
      As much as Labor will always tell us about their magnificent programs, do they really ever have a handle on what the cost to the nation is of continually running on deficit budgetting.
      It is a sad fact of life that they seem unable to rationalise on the concept of if you borrow money and then have interest to pay, you’ll always have to allocate some of your income to interest and the more you borrow, the less you’ll have for all services.
      It is disappointing that there is not greater vision amongst our politicians to look at what might be best for the country in a time when we’ll have economic problems, greater unemployment and allegedly great climate problems than we do have than the cycle of droughts and floods.
      Is it smarter for instance to build desalination plants because of a water scare and now have many idle because we have had better rains or would it be far better to look at what may help to resolve the longer term water issues by more natural harnessing, perhaps create stimulus, employment, decentralisation and even locations where potential for alternative power systems can be used.
      A far greater return could be expected than a heap of over priced school halls being used for a small % of time and a super speed NBN that we do not even have a business plan for let alone a feasibility study.
      At least the concept of a green corps is starting to move in the right direction for to green with some sustainability you need reliable regular water.

    • Evan Findlay says:

      01:59pm | 02/08/10

      Gregg,
      Public/government debt is of little concern. Our debt ratio to GDP is miniscule and we are in no danger of not meeting our financial obligations.
      When Howard and Costello ranted and raved about the perils of government debt it decisively demonstrated what economic buffoons they were. I loved how they managed to pull the wool over the electorates eyes by dissolving government debt with household debt. Imagine if the CEO of a large corporation decided to follow Costello’s lead and not run his company in debt, to forgo borrowings. Imagine what would happen to the growth of the company, to future capital investment. He would be laughed off the board. BHP carries 25% debt on it’s books.
      What is of major concern is personal debt. When Howard and Costello drove around the debt and deficit truck back in 1996 they sneakily quoted the figure of $180 Billion of foreign debt, not government debt. Now Costello may have removed the government debt during his tenure as treasurer but he allowed private debt to soar up to $522 Billion.We still have to pay that money and futhermore should their be a slowing in our economy, as we are starting to see, It’s not good that a large section of our economy is loaded to the eyeballs in debt which they would be unlikely to pay if they lose their jobs.
      I do agree with you on one point though and that is that no politicians of this current crop are looking at the big picture. There are some leads amongst the Labor party with the NBN and investment in education, both conducive to productivity gains, but the Labor party has already demonstrated that when the going gets tough and the hard decisions have to be made but they are found wanting. Having said that I see nothing from the Liberal party that demonstrates big picture ideals.
      Mr Costello was quoted in a recent article in Time magazine where he stated that the Liberal party “Has never been nor will it be a party of reform”

    • Jason says:

      01:20pm | 02/08/10

      How’s the last quote? “I used to be a member of the Labor Party, but not anymore, and I won’t again. I’ve had enough.”  But, he said he’s going to vote for them anyway. It’s a shame that people like this are allowed to vote at all. A vote you don’t care about is not only useless, but probably detrimental to the country.

    • Evan Findlay says:

      02:06pm | 02/08/10

      Jason,
      That is only your opinion, it is not fact.
      Another way you could look at his statement is that he sees voting for the alternative as being detrimental to the country! Doesn’t reflect highly on the alternative does it?

    • Jason says:

      11:49pm | 02/08/10

      Actually, it’s not my opinion, it’s his (ergo, fact). That’s why I quoted him.

    • Paul Neri says:

      02:10pm | 02/08/10

      Water.

      Folk in the Eden-Monaro, particularly the coastal communities, are seriously worried about water supply and look malevolently at Sydney overflowing not with water but ... people, that it dumps in regional communities at every opportunity. As Australia’s population rate soars, Municipal Councils are struggling to provide services, particularly continuous supplies of potable water.

      Labor wears its heart on its sleeve. Despite its protestations to the contrary, Labor is pro-people which means a Big Australia.

      Soon our neighbourhood disputes will centre not around barking dogs and noisy parties but water - people allegedly using water outside of restricted hours etc. And there’ll be water-theft.

      Don’t know about you but I find the prospect of a huge population living in the most arid continent on earth, and desperate for water, to be the stuff of nightmares!

    • Julie Coker-Godson says:

      04:51pm | 02/08/10

      There is water theft already.  I live in Batemans Bay and there is a service station near where I live.  I buy my petrol there regularly.  Some weeks ago now, the manager told me he had to take away the handles for the taps for water at the pumps because people were coming in during the night and stealing water from the servo.  Now, we have to ask the manager to turn the taps on with a special key that he has so we can access water for our water reservoirs in our cars or for washing windows.  This was June I think if memory serves.

    • Richard says:

      02:47pm | 02/08/10

      I lived in Braidwood for 6 of the most bone-chilled, wind-swept months this poor brisbane boy ever experienced back in the winter of 2000. I moved down there to participate in the Green Corps program (which I found out during the leader’s debate the other night was a successful initiative of Tony Abbott’s incidentally), and had a great time.

      Two years later I returned for an extended visit to catch up with my old friends and found myself in the very middle of a proverbial “political shit-storm”! As I had spent some time in 2001 working in Nauru constucting the (very high quality if I do say so myself) accomodation facilities for asylum seekers, I was used as a sort of “political football” between the warring factions in Braidwood.

      Apparently, many of my old friends and hosts (Landcare environmentalists mainly) from my first stay in Braidwood (as a Green Corp’er) had formed a citizen’s action group advocating justice for refugees, but their meetings were being repeatedly and vehemently hijacked by my erstwhile new friends and hosts (the “Landed Gentry”) as I stayed in Braidwood again (as a WOOFER).

      Here I was right in the middle of the debate, with opinions that saw merit in both side’s stances: on one hand I’ve always been pro-immigration/pro-multiculturalism and anti-discrimination (thus in favour of asylum seekers), but on the other hand I felt a genuine scepticsm about the desirableness of opening our boders to an influx of illegal immigrants from cultures that are intolerant to women and unwilling to abandon archaic and barbaric religious beliefs (thus opposed to islamic illegal immigrants).

      I haven’t ever returned to Braidwood since then, but I have no doubt, knowing how intensely political the people there are, that the battle rages on…

    • DD Ball says:

      04:01pm | 02/08/10

      Walking through Paul Keating’s old electorate of Blaxland and one notices lots of indicators that the ALP is in charge and people are being taken for granted. Shops that were thriving in early ‘07 are closed. Lots of unemployed lounging about and people are very defensive. I was asking for nominations to run, and one many asked suspiciously who I was running for. I am an independent, but I am also a Liberal member and they clearly don’t like Liberals .. but they aren’t proud of their ALP government either. They disagree with ALP policy on many issues, and seem to wish for the glory days when the policy they didn’t like was Liberal policy .. and the shops were open and people could find work.
      I have decided, in my fantasy land, when I win office, that I will use some of the ALP followers in my office. Some are high quality. It wouldn’t change my policy agenda, but it would allow me to connect better with the neighborhood.

    • T.Chong says:

      05:09pm | 02/08/10

      DD, tell us more about yur party. What are some of its policies ?
      BTW DD, how do you intend to find out about their political leanings ?
      Asking someone, and then not hiring that person may lead you into unintended problems, legally.
      Better think that one thru a bit more, old son.

    • jos says:

      09:57am | 07/08/10

      funny I was interviewed and I have lived here for years, none of my comments are mentioned…apart from the fact I had never heard of the lib candidate! Mike Kelly has done NOTHING!!!!!! All of the residents were super hopeful for change and progress. And what has Kelly done? No a damn thing! Steve Whan has done more for this area. Maybe he should be our shining light. I think I may be going Green this vote. And Gazard…I got a taped recorded phone call from him the other night. Obviously I hung up. If pollies want to know what we want, KNOCK ON OUR DOORS!!!!!! Stop sending us ridiculous junk mail!

 

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